Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Dear Sreenadhji, Madhuji and Panditji, Thanks for your reply on my post. I am giving below the birthdata. DOB : 25th September 1973 TOB : 11:31:58 POB :Latitude: 9o18'N Longitude: 76o48'E I think Jupiters aspect on Mercury and his association with 10th Lord Sun is also important. Regards, Kannan , Panditji <navagraha wrote: > > Namaste, > > What your birth data ? > > I am not sure about occupants of 11 H. Infact I think Parashar says the 11th > lord is malefic but I do not beleive he attributes any maleficence to > occupants of 11th house. It will depend on their lordships. > > ... > > > On 6/1/06, kankan_73 <kankan_73 wrote: > > > > Dear Madhuji, > > > > I have a different experience so far. Being a Scorpio Lagna person, > > Mercury never in his antardasas troubled me. I got married during > > Mercury's Antardasa in LL s Dasa, passed Graduation with good marks > > during Mercury Antra in Moon's Dasa. > > > > You wrote about: > > -----The 11 L & 11H occupants > > > -----The 8L & 8H occupants > > > ------The 12L & 12H occupants > > > -----The 6L & 6H occupants > > > > In my chart I have got 11th, 12th and 6th Lords in their own houses > > (Mercury in Virgo, Venus in Libra and Mars in Aries) > > > > Also I have many good friends who act like my elder brother/sister > > and helped me in various ways in my life. As I am the eldest son of > > my parents, I always looked for an elder brother/sister during my > > childhood and with God's grace, friends at different levels acted > > like a protecting shield for me. Is there anything related to 11th > > house on this. > > > > Regards, > > Kannan > > > > > > , VYASAJI > > <vyasatvm@> wrote: > > > > > > Vinita, > > > For the sake of convenience, I may write FM, MMP etc. Actually I > > don't consider any planet to be fully benefic or fully malefic. > > Yes .I consider and rate Jupiter as MMP for Taurus Ascendant ,then > > my rationale is totally different from that of Mr VK Chaudary's (SA > > Fame).Prior to that, let me tell you onething, my approach is quite > > different from others. On my end, I rely on my experience as well > > as the experience of others, that I get as feed back rather than > > parroting sanskrit slokas after slokas to substantiate a point. (By > > this statement, I am not attempting for reductio ad absurdum of the > > teachings of the Seers). I consider the text books (or Rule books) > > bequeathed to us by ancient masters as mere " Guides " and not > > anything more than that.I am also convinced more than in Sanskrit , > > a privilage of few scholars coming from the upper strata of the > > society , it is in Tamil, the language of common man, treasure > > house of Jyotish knowledge is kept (Time has > > > devoured almost all works in Tamil , with the owners of > > parachment/palmyra writings, blissfully ignorant of treasure house > > of knowledge in their possession , which they refuses to part even > > if it is moth-eaten , with a sizeable population getting converted > > at a fast pace ; and for whom it has become mandatory to show > > allegiance/, loyalty to new faith , by denouncing , their own > > erstwhile culture and tradition . > > > Now I rank the malignancy of a planet in the following manner. > > Priority wise > > > -----The 11 L & 11H occupants > > > -----The 8L & 8H occupants > > > ------The 12L & 12H occupants > > > -----The 6L & 6H occupants --Please do remember the 6H is > > simultaneously a upachayastana (Improving house) as well as a Dustana > > (Unfavourable House). 6th is also one of " Arthatrikona " (Trigon, 2-6- > > 10) . That might be one of the reasons , the sub period of a > > planet, well placed in 6H ,often leads to improvement in monetary > > affairs. > > > > > > Years back, I too was a great admirer of 11 H & 11Lord. I > > know ,it is the house of gains without pains, sincere companions, > > fulfilment of all desires, elder co-born etc.Bychance, I had an > > opportunity to read a write-up of a great Western astrologer by > > name RC Smith , in which he was saying from his experience that 11L > > or 11H occupants are evil.Since RC Smith study was based on Western > > Astrology that depends on Tropical Zodiac, where there is no Dasha > > system,I never got an opportunity to test his findings.In 1997, > > prior to his death, the outstanding Scholar in Jyotish, Sri R > > Santhanam, based on a thread of BPHS, wrote an article in TOA, > > captioned " Best and the Worst of 11House . Santhanam, in one of his > > letter asked me to test this aphorism in as many cases as possible > > that passes through my hand.From then onwards , I am observing the > > interesting role played by 11L and 11H occupants.In my studies I > > note though the intensity of this aphorism vary according to > > different > > > Ascendant , in the case if Scorpio Ascendant , this finding, > > works like a Gospel Truth. Even if Mercury is well placed in an > > angle / trine, for Scorpio born , invariably it will bring untold > > sufferings to the native in its Dasha or sub period. I am yet to > > come across a chart ,with Scorpio rising, the Dasha or Sub period of > > Mercury has gone without registering some unpleasant event in the > > life of the native. > > > Both R C Smith and R Santhanam found 11L & 11H occupants giving > > disease, debts, litigations, quarells etc, the reason is 11th is 6th > > counted from 6H of disease, debts, sorrows, quarell . Don't forget > > 11H is also the house of recovery from disease. .The point is, > > along with some tangible gains ,the 11L & 11H occupants, invariably > > bring sorrow, debts, litigation , quarell etc, the exact event > > depends on the individual nativity. > > > The rest in next instalment > > > Madhu N Nair > > > > > > VYASAJI <vyasatvm@> wrote: > > > Vinitha, > > > For the 1 & 2 nd query I will answer in this mail whereas the 3rd > > one requires a little bit description and for that I will post a > > seperate message. > > > (1)Ofcourse, the nature of the sign counts, but still more > > importance is the lordship of Mars for Taurus Ascending. Let us > > remember that MT sign of Mars falls in 12H of loss. The > > element " Loss " (In relations) is more precipitated , when Mars > > occupies Scorpio for Taurus Ascendant.I am yet to form a final > > opinion in this matter, but I have repeatedly seen in my studies , > > Mars in Scorpio for Taurus Ascendant, leading to estrangement . > > > (2) Need not necessarily.What we see in actual experience is , > > when one runs the sub period of Saturn (For Taurus Ascendant) one > > may get promotion (10th Lordship)in job with transfer(9th > > lordship) .Parents death coinciding with job securing period. ( !0 > > is 2nd from 9 & hence a maraka for father and 7 from 4th , hence a > > maraka for Mother) Sale & purchase of vehicles/ properties etc , > > simultaneously (9 for purchase , 10 for sale) , overseas journey > > for employment/training etc the list illustrative. Ofcourse it goes > > without saying Saturn need to be well placed from the Ascendant to > > reap beneficial results. > > > > > > Madhu N Nair > > > > > > vinita kumar <shankar_mamta@> wrote: > > > Dear Vyasaji and friends, > > > > > > Namaskar! > > > > > > Actually i have a whole lot of questions on Taurus Lagna but at > > the > > > moment i will confine myself to just the following: > > > > > > 1. Do u think that just because of the basic nature of the Scorpio > > > sign in 7th relationships would suffer (even if Mars is not there)? > > > > > > 2. Do u think that because badhak Saturn rules the 9th and 10 > > houses > > > there is a struggle involved there as well? > > > > > > 3. Do u think Jupiter is the most malefic planet for Taurus Lagna > > > being lord of 2nd and 11th? > > > > > > 4. Do u think that Venus even though it is Lagnesh is not that > > great > > > for the Lagna being ruler of 6th? > > > > > > 5. Do u think this Lagna has a special affinity to Mercury ruled > > > Lagnas....going by Vyasa relationships? > > > > > > I'll stop here. > > > > > > Will be extremely grateful for your responses. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Vinita > > > > > > , VYASAJI > > > <vyasatvm@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sreenadh & Friends, > > > > While match making (Compatibility) is done by Keralite > > > Astrologers, they use to outrightly reject the concept of Kuja or > > > Chowa Dosha, if Mars occupies 7th Rasi Scorpio, saying it is > > Mar's > > > own sign , hence there is no blemish. However, in several charts > > it > > > is repeatedly seen, Mars in 7th sign Scorpio leading to seperation > > > (Legal or otherwise) at some stage of life. > > > > Madhu N Nair > > > > > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > Shall we think about Tarus Lagna? What are the things you know > > > about > > > > this Lagna? How would be that person? > > > > Love, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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