Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Dear Kannan ji, Ok. post it. Love, Sreenadhkankan_73 <kankan_73 wrote: Dear Sreenadhji,Would you tell me how to analyse charts where 4 or more planets are in one sign.I have got a chart in which all kendra and trikona lords are together in 10th house. Do we consider this as a Great Rajayoga ? or planetary war where everybody fails to give results?Here Dhanu Lagna with Sun, Mars, Mercury & Jupiter in Virgo.the birthdata is of a 1.5 yr old child. Should I post it.Regards,Kannan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Dear Sreenadhji, I give below the data. I think Ayanamsa change results in change of Moon's position (though in same Nakshatra). DOB : 2nd October 2004 TOB : 12:37 POB : Latitude: 9o18'N Longitude: 76o48'E Regards, Kannan , sree nadh <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Kannan ji, > Ok. post it. > Love, > Sreenadh > > kankan_73 <kankan_73 wrote: > Dear Sreenadhji, > > Would you tell me how to analyse charts where 4 or more planets are in > one sign. > I have got a chart in which all kendra and trikona lords are together > in 10th house. Do we consider this as a Great Rajayoga ? or planetary > war where everybody fails to give results? > > Here Dhanu Lagna with Sun, Mars, Mercury & Jupiter in Virgo. > > the birthdata is of a 1.5 yr old child. Should I post it. > > Regards, > Kannan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 My bro's daughter was born on May 11th 2000 at 7.03 am in Bangalore, with 5 planets in the 12th house and I'm searching for ways to analyze her horoscope. She was incidentally India's one billionth child, with a certificate to show for it +++ , " kankan_73 " <kankan_73 wrote: > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > I give below the data. I think Ayanamsa change results in change of > Moon's position (though in same Nakshatra). > > DOB : 2nd October 2004 > TOB : 12:37 > POB : Latitude: 9o18'N Longitude: 76o48'E > > Regards, > Kannan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Dear Kannan ji, It is AM or PM ? I took the following: DOB : 2nd October 2004TOB : 12:37 PM POB : Latitude: 9o18'N Longitude: 76o48'E And got the following chart - is that ok? Natal Chart October 2, 2004 Time: 12:37:00 am Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 76 E 48' 00", 9 N 18' 00" -, India Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Tarana - Bhadrapada Tithi: Krishna Chaturthi (Me) (76.34% left) Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve) Nakshatra: Bharani (Ve) (26.55% left) Yoga: Vajra (Mo) (94.40% left) Karana: Bava (Su) (52.68% left) Hora Lord: Jupiter (5 min sign: Ar) Mahakala Hora: Jupiter (5 min sign: Aq) Kaala Lord: Venus (Mahakala: Venus) Sunrise: 6:13:35 am (October 1) Sunset: 6:11:00 pm (October 1) Janma Ghatis: 45.9758 Ayanamsa: 24-39-14.57 Sidereal Time: 0:57:36 +--------------+ | |Mo Ra | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| | | |Sa | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------| Rasi |-----------| | | |Ve | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |As | |Ke |Su Ma | | | | |Me Ju | | | | | Gk | | | | | | | | | | | +--------------+ If so we can proceed further. Love, Sreenadhkankan_73 <kankan_73 wrote: Dear Sreenadhji,I give below the data. I think Ayanamsa change results in change of Moon's position (though in same Nakshatra).DOB : 2nd October 2004TOB : 12:37POB : Latitude: 9o18'N Longitude: 76o48'E Regards,Kannan , sree nadh <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Kannan ji,> Ok. post it.> Love,> Sreenadh> > kankan_73 <kankan_73 wrote:> Dear Sreenadhji,> > Would you tell me how to analyse charts where 4 or more planets are in > one sign.> I have got a chart in which all kendra and trikona lords are together > in 10th house. Do we consider this as a Great Rajayoga ? or planetary > war where everybody fails to give results?> > Here Dhanu Lagna with Sun, Mars, Mercury & Jupiter in Virgo.> > the birthdata is of a 1.5 yr old child. Should I post it.> > Regards,> Kannan> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 , sree nadh <sreesog wrote: > > And got the following chart - is that ok? > October 2, 2004 > Time: 12:37:00 am Sorry to pettifog but if it's 12.37 am on 2nd Oct, the lagna can't be Sg, no matter which software or ayanamsa +++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Yes, Sreendahji, Please proceed. Regards, Kannan , sree nadh <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Kannan ji, > It is AM or PM ? > I took the following: > > DOB : 2nd October 2004 > TOB : 12:37 PM > POB : Latitude: 9o18'N Longitude: 76o48'E > > And got the following chart - is that ok? > > > Natal Chart > > October 2, 2004 > Time: 12:37:00 am > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 76 E 48' 00 " , 9 N 18' 00 " > -, India > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Tarana - Bhadrapada > Tithi: Krishna Chaturthi (Me) (76.34% left) > Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve) > Nakshatra: Bharani (Ve) (26.55% left) > Yoga: Vajra (Mo) (94.40% left) > Karana: Bava (Su) (52.68% left) > Hora Lord: Jupiter (5 min sign: Ar) > Mahakala Hora: Jupiter (5 min sign: Aq) > Kaala Lord: Venus (Mahakala: Venus) > > Sunrise: 6:13:35 am (October 1) > Sunset: 6:11:00 pm (October 1) > Janma Ghatis: 45.9758 > > Ayanamsa: 24-39-14.57 > Sidereal Time: 0:57:36 > > > +--------------+ > | |Mo Ra | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > | | |Sa | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------| Rasi |-----------| > | | |Ve | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |As | |Ke |Su Ma | > | | | |Me Ju | > | | | | Gk | > | | | | | > | | | | | > +--------------+ > > If so we can proceed further. > Love, > Sreenadh > > kankan_73 <kankan_73 wrote: > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > I give below the data. I think Ayanamsa change results in change of > Moon's position (though in same Nakshatra). > > DOB : 2nd October 2004 > TOB : 12:37 > POB : Latitude: 9o18'N Longitude: 76o48'E > > Regards, > Kannan > > > > , sree nadh > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kannan ji, > > Ok. post it. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73@> wrote: > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > Would you tell me how to analyse charts where 4 or more planets > are in > > one sign. > > I have got a chart in which all kendra and trikona lords are > together > > in 10th house. Do we consider this as a Great Rajayoga ? or > planetary > > war where everybody fails to give results? > > > > Here Dhanu Lagna with Sun, Mars, Mercury & Jupiter in Virgo. > > > > the birthdata is of a 1.5 yr old child. Should I post it. > > > > Regards, > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 It is 12:37 PM Regards, Kannan , " vernalagnia " <vernalagnia wrote: > > , sree nadh > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > And got the following chart - is that ok? > > > October 2, 2004 > > Time: 12:37:00 am > > > Sorry to pettifog but if it's 12.37 am on 2nd Oct, the lagna can't be > Sg, no matter which software or ayanamsa > > +++ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Dear Verna ji, As Bharat ji sugested that sound good. Birth Data : May 11th 2000 at 7.03 am in Bangalore I got the following chart : --- Natal Chart May 11, 2000 Time: 7:03:00 am Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 35' 00", 12 N 59' 00" Bangalore, India Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Vikrama - Vaisakha Tithi: Sukla Ashtami (Ra) (25.34% left) Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) Nakshatra: Aasresha (Me) (7.15% left) Yoga: Vriddhi (Me) (11.49% left) Karana: Bava (Su) (50.68% left) Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Sg) Mahakala Hora: Jupiter (5 min sign: Sc) Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter) Sunrise: 5:57:57 am Sunset: 6:34:25 pm Janma Ghatis: 2.7103 Ayanamsa: 24-35-28.00 Sidereal Time: 21:59:55 +--------------+ | |Su Me |As Ma | Gk | | |Ju Ve | | | | |Sa | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| | | |Mo Ra | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------| Rasi |-----------| |Ke | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +--------------+ This chart should be read from Moon, and not from Lagna. So it is better to say 5 planets in 10th house (starting from Moon). By the way, why people are so much worried about the chart when 4 or 5 grahas are in the same sign?! Who is does not know that even though they would be efficient life would be troublesome? P.S. : Osho had 5 planets in 9th I think. 4 planets in a sign (with at least one of them very strong) is pravirgya yaga. Pravrigya = Detached from home, and roaming in far away lands. Almost a sanyasa yoga. 5 planets - He will suffer a lot - how ever efficient he be, how much name and fame he may make - life would pose many challenges for sure. 10th Job - how many jobs will she do?! By the way I am not reading the chart - It is just roaming thoughts about 4, 5 planets in a sign. Love, Sreenadh vernalagnia <vernalagnia wrote: My bro's daughter was born on May 11th 2000 at 7.03 am in Bangalore,with 5 planets in the 12th house and I'm searching for ways to analyzeher horoscope.She was incidentally India's one billionth child, with a certificateto show for it +++ , "kankan_73"<kankan_73 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadhji,> > I give below the data. I think Ayanamsa change results in change of > Moon's position (though in same Nakshatra).> > DOB : 2nd October 2004> TOB : 12:37> POB : Latitude: 9o18'N Longitude: 76o48'E > > Regards,> Kannan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Sreenadhji, Sorry, there was some confusion in birth time as I had not mentioned AM/PM in my first mail. I confirm it is PM. Also I am getting Moon in Taurus in my computer in Karthika nakshatra ( exalted?). I am sure this will make a huge difference in the chart (exalted 8th lord in 6th vs. Moon with Rahu in 5th). Regards, Kannan , " kankan_73 " <kankan_73 wrote: > > Yes, Sreendahji, Please proceed. > > Regards, > Kannan > > , sree nadh > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kannan ji, > > It is AM or PM ? > > I took the following: > > > > DOB : 2nd October 2004 > > TOB : 12:37 PM > > POB : Latitude: 9o18'N Longitude: 76o48'E > > > > And got the following chart - is that ok? > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > October 2, 2004 > > Time: 12:37:00 am > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 76 E 48' 00 " , 9 N 18' 00 " > > -, India > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Tarana - Bhadrapada > > Tithi: Krishna Chaturthi (Me) (76.34% left) > > Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve) > > Nakshatra: Bharani (Ve) (26.55% left) > > Yoga: Vajra (Mo) (94.40% left) > > Karana: Bava (Su) (52.68% left) > > Hora Lord: Jupiter (5 min sign: Ar) > > Mahakala Hora: Jupiter (5 min sign: Aq) > > Kaala Lord: Venus (Mahakala: Venus) > > > > Sunrise: 6:13:35 am (October 1) > > Sunset: 6:11:00 pm (October 1) > > Janma Ghatis: 45.9758 > > > > Ayanamsa: 24-39-14.57 > > Sidereal Time: 0:57:36 > > > > > > +--------------+ > > | |Mo Ra | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > | | |Sa | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |-----------| Rasi |-----------| > > | | |Ve | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > |As | |Ke |Su Ma | > > | | | |Me Ju | > > | | | | Gk | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > +--------------+ > > > > If so we can proceed further. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > I give below the data. I think Ayanamsa change results in change > of > > Moon's position (though in same Nakshatra). > > > > DOB : 2nd October 2004 > > TOB : 12:37 > > POB : Latitude: 9o18'N Longitude: 76o48'E > > > > Regards, > > Kannan > > > > > > > > , sree nadh > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kannan ji, > > > Ok. post it. > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73@> wrote: > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > Would you tell me how to analyse charts where 4 or more planets > > are in > > > one sign. > > > I have got a chart in which all kendra and trikona lords are > > together > > > in 10th house. Do we consider this as a Great Rajayoga ? or > > planetary > > > war where everybody fails to give results? > > > > > > Here Dhanu Lagna with Sun, Mars, Mercury & Jupiter in Virgo. > > > > > > the birthdata is of a 1.5 yr old child. Should I post it. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Dear Verna ji, Read the previous mail of Kannan ji again - he is speaking about 4 planets in 10th house, and he forgot to mention whether the time is am or pm. It should be 12.37 PM Love, Sreenadhvernalagnia <vernalagnia wrote: , sree nadh<sreesog wrote:> > And got the following chart - is that ok?> October 2, 2004> Time: 12:37:00 amSorry to pettifog but if it's 12.37 am on 2nd Oct, the lagna can't beSg, no matter which software or ayanamsa +++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 , sree nadh <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Verna ji, > Read the previous mail of Kannan ji again - he is speaking about 4 planets in 10th house, and he forgot to mention whether the time is am or pm. > It should be 12.37 PM > Love, > Sreenadh Correct... unless retro ) My bad, sorry +++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Dear Sreenadhji, Kindly enlighten me how we can analyse the chart (for which I had provided birthdata few days back). I remember your mentioning of sanyasa yoga when 4/more than 4 planets are in one sign. My doubt is when all Kendra and kona lords are together in the most powerful Kendra-10th house , what happens to that Rajayoga, it will go vain? Regards, Kannan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Dear All, Now, look at the chart provided by Kannan ji. (I don't know anything about this child) +--------------+ | |Mo Ra | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| | | |Sa | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------| Rasi |-----------| | | |Ve | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |As | |Ke |Su Ma | | | | |Me Ju | | | | | Gk | | | | | | | | | | | +--------------+ Here also many conditions told for the chart put forward by Verna ji applies. Mo eclipsed due to Ra. 8th lord is with the 12th lord. Dasa of 4th lord from Mo (8th lord from Lagna) is running. Lagna lord is with Gk. (In the chart provided by Verna ji, the 12th lord was the depositor of Gk). But the difference between these charts is that this chart should be read from Lagna. In 8th Sa is there, which is good in a sence. On checking Vimsottari dasa from Lagna sputa it is the Dasa of Ve (the 6th lord) but which is also the Amrita graha. Lagna Lagnalord is Ju another Amrita Graha.So I think survival ensured, but should we add some suffering (bad health?) to it as well. Once this point is clarified we can proceed further. P.S.: I wonder why two similar charts were presented on this forum at the same time. Love, Sreenadh , " kankan_73 " <kankan_73 wrote: > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > Kindly enlighten me how we can analyse the chart (for which I had > provided birthdata few days back). I remember your mentioning of > sanyasa yoga when 4/more than 4 planets are in one sign. My doubt is > when all Kendra and kona lords are together in the most powerful > Kendra-10th house , what happens to that Rajayoga, it will go vain? > > Regards, > Kannan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Dear Sreenadhji, Let me first give facts about this child (my friends daughter) The first 15 days of this child was very critical. Born with both the lungs not functioning well. Parents were in tears , doctors saying not much hope. All started praying, friends, relatives and well wishers. Doctors were looking for some costly medicine not available in India. At last with Gods grace someone found the desired medicine kept at a different hospital. After injecting the medicine directly to the lungs, it started giving positive response, even after that they spend 1-2 months time in hospital due to many other infections etc. etc and put his father under bankruptcy. Now that Jesus heard their prayers, this child is perfectly okay. Regards, Kannan , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear All, > Now, look at the chart provided by Kannan ji. (I don't know anything > about this child) > > +--------------+ > | |Mo Ra | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > | | |Sa | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------| Rasi |-----------| > | | |Ve | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |As | |Ke |Su Ma | > | | | |Me Ju | > | | | | Gk | > | | | | | > | | | | | > +--------------+ > > Here also many conditions told for the chart put forward by Verna ji > applies. Mo eclipsed due to Ra. 8th lord is with the 12th lord. Dasa of > 4th lord from Mo (8th lord from Lagna) is running. Lagna lord is with > Gk. (In the chart provided by Verna ji, the 12th lord was the depositor > of Gk). > But the difference between these charts is that this chart should be > read from Lagna. In 8th Sa is there, which is good in a sence. On > checking Vimsottari dasa from Lagna sputa it is the Dasa of Ve (the 6th > lord) but which is also the Amrita graha. Lagna Lagnalord is Ju another > Amrita Graha.So I think survival ensured, but should we add some > suffering (bad health?) to it as well. Once this point is clarified we > can proceed further. > > P.S.: I wonder why two similar charts were presented on this forum at > the same time. > Love, > Sreenadh > > > , " kankan_73 " > <kankan_73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > Kindly enlighten me how we can analyse the chart (for which I had > > provided birthdata few days back). I remember your mentioning of > > sanyasa yoga when 4/more than 4 planets are in one sign. My doubt is > > when all Kendra and kona lords are together in the most powerful > > Kendra-10th house , what happens to that Rajayoga, it will go vain? > > > > Regards, > > Kannan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Dear Kannan ji, You could have limited your answer in an yes or no manner, making us toil further. Still it is ok. This is what I doubted. This proves that that chart is ok. and should be read from Lagna. The chart gives almost all the indications of an instant death, but with god's grace (or with chart's grace?! With Ve, Je and Sa helping the survival) the child survived! This is why the classics say - " Aayusha pradhamam chintryam " , Meaning longivity should be thought first when you receive a chart. There is another statement - " Anayusham tu martyanam jataka kim prayojanam " , Meaning if there is no longivity, then what is use of a horoscope with many good combinations as well. Since for this horoscope, even though through turmoil, survival is ensured, so we can proceed further. P.S.: I request others to come forward and make further comments on this chart. Let us make it a good discussion. Love, , " kankan_73 " <kankan_73 wrote: > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > Let me first give facts about this child (my friends daughter) > The first 15 days of this child was very critical. Born with both > the lungs not functioning well. Parents were in tears , doctors > saying not much hope. All started praying, friends, relatives and > well wishers. Doctors were looking for some costly medicine not > available in India. At last with Gods grace someone found the > desired medicine kept at a different hospital. After injecting the > medicine directly to the lungs, it started giving positive response, > even after that they spend 1-2 months time in hospital due to many > other infections etc. etc and put his father under bankruptcy. > > Now that Jesus heard their prayers, this child is perfectly okay. > > Regards, > Kannan > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > Now, look at the chart provided by Kannan ji. (I don't know > anything > > about this child) > > > > +--------------+ > > | |Mo Ra | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > | | |Sa | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |-----------| Rasi |-----------| > > | | |Ve | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > |As | |Ke |Su Ma | > > | | | |Me Ju | > > | | | | Gk | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > +--------------+ > > > > Here also many conditions told for the chart put forward by Verna > ji > > applies. Mo eclipsed due to Ra. 8th lord is with the 12th lord. > Dasa of > > 4th lord from Mo (8th lord from Lagna) is running. Lagna lord is > with > > Gk. (In the chart provided by Verna ji, the 12th lord was the > depositor > > of Gk). > > But the difference between these charts is that this chart should > be > > read from Lagna. In 8th Sa is there, which is good in a sence. On > > checking Vimsottari dasa from Lagna sputa it is the Dasa of Ve > (the 6th > > lord) but which is also the Amrita graha. Lagna Lagnalord is Ju > another > > Amrita Graha.So I think survival ensured, but should we add some > > suffering (bad health?) to it as well. Once this point is > clarified we > > can proceed further. > > > > P.S.: I wonder why two similar charts were presented on this forum > at > > the same time. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , " kankan_73 " > > <kankan_73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > Kindly enlighten me how we can analyse the chart (for which I > had > > > provided birthdata few days back). I remember your mentioning of > > > sanyasa yoga when 4/more than 4 planets are in one sign. My > doubt is > > > when all Kendra and kona lords are together in the most powerful > > > Kendra-10th house , what happens to that Rajayoga, it will go > vain? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Kannan > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Dear Sreenadhji, I will take care in future to be very brief. Regards, Kannan , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Kannan ji, > You could have limited your answer in an yes or no manner, making us > toil further. > Still it is ok. This is what I doubted. > This proves that that chart is ok. and should be read from Lagna. > The chart gives almost all the indications of an instant death, but > with god's grace (or with chart's grace?! With Ve, Je and Sa helping > the survival) the child survived! This is why the classics say - > " Aayusha pradhamam chintryam " , Meaning longivity should be thought > first when you receive a chart. > There is another statement - > " Anayusham tu martyanam jataka kim prayojanam " , Meaning if there is > no longivity, then what is use of a horoscope with many good > combinations as well. > Since for this horoscope, even though through turmoil, survival is > ensured, so we can proceed further. > P.S.: I request others to come forward and make further comments on > this chart. Let us make it a good discussion. > > Love, > > , " kankan_73 " > <kankan_73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > Let me first give facts about this child (my friends daughter) > > The first 15 days of this child was very critical. Born with both > > the lungs not functioning well. Parents were in tears , doctors > > saying not much hope. All started praying, friends, relatives and > > well wishers. Doctors were looking for some costly medicine not > > available in India. At last with Gods grace someone found the > > desired medicine kept at a different hospital. After injecting the > > medicine directly to the lungs, it started giving positive > response, > > even after that they spend 1-2 months time in hospital due to many > > other infections etc. etc and put his father under bankruptcy. > > > > Now that Jesus heard their prayers, this child is perfectly okay. > > > > Regards, > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > Now, look at the chart provided by Kannan ji. (I don't know > > anything > > > about this child) > > > > > > +--------------+ > > > | |Mo Ra | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > | | |Sa | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > |-----------| Rasi |-----------| > > > | | |Ve | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > |As | |Ke |Su Ma | > > > | | | |Me Ju | > > > | | | | Gk | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > +--------------+ > > > > > > Here also many conditions told for the chart put forward by > Verna > > ji > > > applies. Mo eclipsed due to Ra. 8th lord is with the 12th lord. > > Dasa of > > > 4th lord from Mo (8th lord from Lagna) is running. Lagna lord is > > with > > > Gk. (In the chart provided by Verna ji, the 12th lord was the > > depositor > > > of Gk). > > > But the difference between these charts is that this chart > should > > be > > > read from Lagna. In 8th Sa is there, which is good in a sence. On > > > checking Vimsottari dasa from Lagna sputa it is the Dasa of Ve > > (the 6th > > > lord) but which is also the Amrita graha. Lagna Lagnalord is Ju > > another > > > Amrita Graha.So I think survival ensured, but should we add some > > > suffering (bad health?) to it as well. Once this point is > > clarified we > > > can proceed further. > > > > > > P.S.: I wonder why two similar charts were presented on this > forum > > at > > > the same time. > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > , " kankan_73 " > > > <kankan_73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > > > Kindly enlighten me how we can analyse the chart (for which I > > had > > > > provided birthdata few days back). I remember your mentioning > of > > > > sanyasa yoga when 4/more than 4 planets are in one sign. My > > doubt is > > > > when all Kendra and kona lords are together in the most > powerful > > > > Kendra-10th house , what happens to that Rajayoga, it will go > > vain? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Dear Kannan ji, Let us go to the next step. Saravali says - " Kala narasyavayaval purushanam kalpayel presavakale Sadasad graha samyogal pushtim cha upadravscheti " Meaning, at the time of birth, considering the body parts of the Kala purusha (and the placement of malifics in respective signs) the strength of body parts can be predicted. Here the question is - Why the disease was related to lungs? Can you imagine the answer? As you know Aries is the head of Kalapurusha and Pisces is the feet. The main malifics are Sa, Ma and Su. In this horoscope, Ma and Su are with Ju and therefore the damage they can give is " Yapya bhavanti " , becomes hidden, or decreased. So the remaining malefic is Sa. Where Sa is placed? In Cancer. It is the Chest (Lungs) portion of Kala purusha. The lord of Cn is with Ra again indicating Lungs trouble. The trouble could be ascribed not only to lungs but also to the heart. Why? Cn represents heart, and Aq has got the name " Hridroga " (Heart disease) and the lord of Aq is posited in Cn. Starting from Lagna, " Moordha Asya Gala skandha Hridayo.... " etc, the 5th sign represents Hridaya (Heart) and Mo is there with Ra. Mo is aspected with Sa as well, with its 10th special drishti. So the conclusion would be that the trouble could be related to Lungs or Heart (or both) as far as an astrologer who purely depends on horoscope is concerned, to derive this result. (This points to the dilemma into which the astrologer probably falls into while trying to decipher results from the chart) So the next question would be, any heart related trouble was mentioned by doctors or not? Even if not it is ok, since the lung related trouble happened, and the other could be our imperfect understanding. It would have been a troublesome (health wise) period for the mother as well (look at Mo-Ra combination and the aspect of Sa on Mo). Even the earnings of Father (from abroad/distant land ? Su in Virgo sign!) won't have been enough for the high expenses. Mo-Ra combination also indicates diseases in childhood, Since Mo is significator of childhood. Sa in 8th also indicates diseases. But Sa in 8th also indicates long life, and that is why earlier I said, in a sense Sa in 8th is good, since it ensures the survival of the child. But alas! Not much help from relatives, even in that state of affairs at the hospital, Sa in 8th (in 4th from Mo) says, why was it so? Or am I wrong? If Dasa is casted from Mo, now it is Mo dasa. If Dasa casted from Lagna now it is Ve->Mo! Brigu sutra says that if Ra is in 5th " Pavana vyadhi " Meaning rheumatics like health trouble. Ra is with Mo so it could be assigned to the mother. Let it be rheumatics (or is it breath or chest related? Is she asthmatic? Cn is the 4th sign from Mo, the significator of mother, that is why these doubts) or anything else, even the mother is yet to recover from the health problems caused by the birth of this child it says. Clarify all these and we will proceed further. Love, Sreenadh , " kankan_73 " <kankan_73 wrote: > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > I will take care in future to be very brief. > > Regards, > Kannan > > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kannan ji, > > You could have limited your answer in an yes or no manner, making > us > > toil further. > > Still it is ok. This is what I doubted. > > This proves that that chart is ok. and should be read from Lagna. > > The chart gives almost all the indications of an instant death, > but > > with god's grace (or with chart's grace?! With Ve, Je and Sa > helping > > the survival) the child survived! This is why the classics say - > > " Aayusha pradhamam chintryam " , Meaning longivity should be > thought > > first when you receive a chart. > > There is another statement - > > " Anayusham tu martyanam jataka kim prayojanam " , Meaning if there > is > > no longivity, then what is use of a horoscope with many good > > combinations as well. > > Since for this horoscope, even though through turmoil, survival > is > > ensured, so we can proceed further. > > P.S.: I request others to come forward and make further comments > on > > this chart. Let us make it a good discussion. > > > > Love, > > > > , " kankan_73 " > > <kankan_73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > Let me first give facts about this child (my friends daughter) > > > The first 15 days of this child was very critical. Born with > both > > > the lungs not functioning well. Parents were in tears , doctors > > > saying not much hope. All started praying, friends, relatives > and > > > well wishers. Doctors were looking for some costly medicine not > > > available in India. At last with Gods grace someone found the > > > desired medicine kept at a different hospital. After injecting > the > > > medicine directly to the lungs, it started giving positive > > response, > > > even after that they spend 1-2 months time in hospital due to > many > > > other infections etc. etc and put his father under bankruptcy. > > > > > > Now that Jesus heard their prayers, this child is perfectly okay. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > Now, look at the chart provided by Kannan ji. (I don't know > > > anything > > > > about this child) > > > > > > > > +--------------+ > > > > | |Mo Ra | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > > | | |Sa | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > |-----------| Rasi |-----------| > > > > | | |Ve | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > > |As | |Ke |Su Ma | > > > > | | | |Me Ju | > > > > | | | | Gk | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > +--------------+ > > > > > > > > Here also many conditions told for the chart put forward by > > Verna > > > ji > > > > applies. Mo eclipsed due to Ra. 8th lord is with the 12th > lord. > > > Dasa of > > > > 4th lord from Mo (8th lord from Lagna) is running. Lagna lord > is > > > with > > > > Gk. (In the chart provided by Verna ji, the 12th lord was the > > > depositor > > > > of Gk). > > > > But the difference between these charts is that this chart > > should > > > be > > > > read from Lagna. In 8th Sa is there, which is good in a sence. > On > > > > checking Vimsottari dasa from Lagna sputa it is the Dasa of Ve > > > (the 6th > > > > lord) but which is also the Amrita graha. Lagna Lagnalord is > Ju > > > another > > > > Amrita Graha.So I think survival ensured, but should we add > some > > > > suffering (bad health?) to it as well. Once this point is > > > clarified we > > > > can proceed further. > > > > > > > > P.S.: I wonder why two similar charts were presented on this > > forum > > > at > > > > the same time. > > > > Love, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > , " kankan_73 " > > > > <kankan_73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > > > > > Kindly enlighten me how we can analyse the chart (for which > I > > > had > > > > > provided birthdata few days back). I remember your > mentioning > > of > > > > > sanyasa yoga when 4/more than 4 planets are in one sign. My > > > doubt is > > > > > when all Kendra and kona lords are together in the most > > powerful > > > > > Kendra-10th house , what happens to that Rajayoga, it will > go > > > vain? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Dear Sreenadh ji, Thanks for the post. I give below my answers. 1. No Heart disease to the child. 2. It was a cesarean birth. There was no critical health issues for the mother. She was in treatment for uterus related problems (which prevent pregnancy) for 2 years. 3. Father went to foreign land only after birth of the child. 4. True, No help from relatives financially. 5. I am not aware of any health issues to mother now. Thanks & regards, Kannan , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Kannan ji, > Let us go to the next step. > Saravali says - > " Kala narasyavayaval purushanam kalpayel presavakale > Sadasad graha samyogal pushtim cha upadravscheti " > Meaning, at the time of birth, considering the body parts of the > Kala purusha (and the placement of malifics in respective signs) the > strength of body parts can be predicted. > Here the question is - Why the disease was related to lungs? Can you > imagine the answer? > As you know Aries is the head of Kalapurusha and Pisces is the feet. > The main malifics are Sa, Ma and Su. In this horoscope, Ma and Su are > with Ju and therefore the damage they can give is " Yapya bhavanti " , > becomes hidden, or decreased. So the remaining malefic is Sa. Where > Sa is placed? In Cancer. It is the Chest (Lungs) portion of Kala > purusha. The lord of Cn is with Ra again indicating Lungs trouble. > The trouble could be ascribed not only to lungs but also to the > heart. Why? Cn represents heart, and Aq has got the name " Hridroga " > (Heart disease) and the lord of Aq is posited in Cn. Starting from > Lagna, " Moordha Asya Gala skandha Hridayo.... " etc, the 5th sign > represents Hridaya (Heart) and Mo is there with Ra. Mo is aspected > with Sa as well, with its 10th special drishti. So the conclusion > would be that the trouble could be related to Lungs or Heart (or > both) as far as an astrologer who purely depends on horoscope is > concerned, to derive this result. (This points to the dilemma into > which the astrologer probably falls into while trying to decipher > results from the chart) > So the next question would be, any heart related trouble was > mentioned by doctors or not? Even if not it is ok, since the lung > related trouble happened, and the other could be our imperfect > understanding. It would have been a troublesome (health wise) period > for the mother as well (look at Mo-Ra combination and the aspect of > Sa on Mo). Even the earnings of Father (from abroad/distant land ? Su > in Virgo sign!) won't have been enough for the high expenses. > Mo-Ra combination also indicates diseases in childhood, Since Mo is > significator of childhood. Sa in 8th also indicates diseases. But Sa > in 8th also indicates long life, and that is why earlier I said, in a > sense Sa in 8th is good, since it ensures the survival of the child. > But alas! Not much help from relatives, even in that state of affairs > at the hospital, Sa in 8th (in 4th from Mo) says, why was it so? Or > am I wrong? > If Dasa is casted from Mo, now it is Mo dasa. If Dasa casted from > Lagna now it is Ve->Mo! Brigu sutra says that if Ra is in 5th " Pavana > vyadhi " Meaning rheumatics like health trouble. Ra is with Mo so it > could be assigned to the mother. Let it be rheumatics (or is it > breath or chest related? Is she asthmatic? Cn is the 4th sign from > Mo, the significator of mother, that is why these doubts) or anything > else, even the mother is yet to recover from the health problems > caused by the birth of this child it says. Clarify all these and we > will proceed further. > Love, > Sreenadh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Dear Kannan ji, Thanks. 1) It is ok. My inablity to distingush Lung or Heart trouble from this chart reflect here. 2) Health troubles to mother related to pregnancy BEFORE birth. So the analysis suits with slight modification. 3) Father went to foreign land. So the placement of Su in Vi sign is justified. " Kanyayam Paradesaga " , Meaning Virgo sign indicates individual going abroad, says Varaha hora. But there too was slight error in prediction, since the father went abroad AFTER the birth of child. 4) No help from relatives financially - here the prediction was ok. 5) Not aware of current helth issues - but I stick to my view, there should be, since it is not clarified yet. We will proceed further in the next mail. P.S.: Remember it is just a learing excersise to all, yap, including me. Love, Sreenadh , " kankan_73 " <kankan_73 wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > Thanks for the post. I give below my answers. > > 1. No Heart disease to the child. > 2. It was a cesarean birth. There was no critical health issues > for the mother. She was in treatment for uterus related problems > (which prevent pregnancy) for 2 years. > 3. Father went to foreign land only after birth of the child. > 4. True, No help from relatives financially. > 5. I am not aware of any health issues to mother now. > > Thanks & regards, > > Kannan > > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kannan ji, > > Let us go to the next step. > > Saravali says - > > " Kala narasyavayaval purushanam kalpayel presavakale > > Sadasad graha samyogal pushtim cha upadravscheti " > > Meaning, at the time of birth, considering the body parts of the > > Kala purusha (and the placement of malifics in respective signs) > the > > strength of body parts can be predicted. > > Here the question is - Why the disease was related to lungs? Can > you > > imagine the answer? > > As you know Aries is the head of Kalapurusha and Pisces is the > feet. > > The main malifics are Sa, Ma and Su. In this horoscope, Ma and Su > are > > with Ju and therefore the damage they can give is " Yapya > bhavanti " , > > becomes hidden, or decreased. So the remaining malefic is Sa. > Where > > Sa is placed? In Cancer. It is the Chest (Lungs) portion of Kala > > purusha. The lord of Cn is with Ra again indicating Lungs trouble. > > The trouble could be ascribed not only to lungs but also to the > > heart. Why? Cn represents heart, and Aq has got the > name " Hridroga " > > (Heart disease) and the lord of Aq is posited in Cn. Starting from > > Lagna, " Moordha Asya Gala skandha Hridayo.... " etc, the 5th sign > > represents Hridaya (Heart) and Mo is there with Ra. Mo is aspected > > with Sa as well, with its 10th special drishti. So the conclusion > > would be that the trouble could be related to Lungs or Heart (or > > both) as far as an astrologer who purely depends on horoscope is > > concerned, to derive this result. (This points to the dilemma into > > which the astrologer probably falls into while trying to decipher > > results from the chart) > > So the next question would be, any heart related trouble was > > mentioned by doctors or not? Even if not it is ok, since the lung > > related trouble happened, and the other could be our imperfect > > understanding. It would have been a troublesome (health wise) > period > > for the mother as well (look at Mo-Ra combination and the aspect > of > > Sa on Mo). Even the earnings of Father (from abroad/distant land ? > Su > > in Virgo sign!) won't have been enough for the high expenses. > > Mo-Ra combination also indicates diseases in childhood, Since Mo > is > > significator of childhood. Sa in 8th also indicates diseases. But > Sa > > in 8th also indicates long life, and that is why earlier I said, > in a > > sense Sa in 8th is good, since it ensures the survival of the > child. > > But alas! Not much help from relatives, even in that state of > affairs > > at the hospital, Sa in 8th (in 4th from Mo) says, why was it so? > Or > > am I wrong? > > If Dasa is casted from Mo, now it is Mo dasa. If Dasa casted from > > Lagna now it is Ve->Mo! Brigu sutra says that if Ra is in > 5th " Pavana > > vyadhi " Meaning rheumatics like health trouble. Ra is with Mo so > it > > could be assigned to the mother. Let it be rheumatics (or is it > > breath or chest related? Is she asthmatic? Cn is the 4th sign from > > Mo, the significator of mother, that is why these doubts) or > anything > > else, even the mother is yet to recover from the health problems > > caused by the birth of this child it says. Clarify all these and > we > > will proceed further. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Kannan ji, > Thanks. > 1) It is ok. My inablity to distingush Lung or Heart trouble from > this chart reflect here. Shouldn't lungs be seen from the 3rd and heart from the 4th? Just a thought. After all, pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis (which you'll be susceptible to, working in Kota in the IT industry) is quite different from arteriosclerosis +++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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