Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Shree Sreenadhji, Thanq for your feedback...When doubts n queries are raised on my articles...so its better if i refrain from uploading them...As they can create a false meaning...who r new to this science... So i consider it to be better if i delete all files posted by me... I hope that this doesn't hurt u, Thanq, Wish u all success, With Humbleness, , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear All, > The following is some thoughts on Kuja Dosha when I read the > article by Gourav Ghosh on the same. > > Kuja Dosha > ----------- > Gourav Ghosh quotes the following sloka for Kuja Dosha- > ==> > The classic says, > lagne byaye ca pätäle yämitre cäñöame kuje| > kanyä harati bhartäram bhartä bhäryäm haniñyati|| > It means that presence of Mars in Lagna, 4th house, 7th house, 12th > house or in 8th house results into Kuja Dosha. If the bride has this > kind of placement of Mars in her chart, then she becomes the reason > for her husband's death, while if the groom has this kind of > placement, then he becomes the reason for his wife's death. > Some often includes 2nd house for no reason, others consider it with > respect to other planets, which should not be done & reasonless. > <== > He does not say in which classic, this sloka is present. Why? Because > this is a sloka with no father! This is a sloka that appear in > the Prarisishta (extra slokas included) in the stri Jataka (horoscope > of women) portion of a non-authentic book called Jataka chandrika > (This book is different from Laghu parasari which is also known as > Jataka chandrika). > If Ma placed in 1, 2,4,7,12 (total 5 signs) can produce Kuja Dosha > then 5/12 = 41.66..% of the horoscope will have Kuja Dosah! If we > consider Mo as well, then 83.33... % of horoscopes will have Kuja > Dosha!!! It is absurd! > > What is the real predictions that are given for Ma in 2nd, 4th, 7th > and 12th from Lagna? How it differs from this absurd sloka? Let us > have a look at the married life related actual predictions given in > texts like Brigu sutra, Varaha hora, Jataka Tatwa etc to have a clear > picture :- > Ma in Lagna - > May have wounds/diseases, will not have long life, less > children, too much interest in ladies. If Ma is strong, or benefics > aspects Ma all these wouldn't happen, but if at least one malefic > aspects Ma such effects can be predicted. > Ma in 2nd – > Too much interest in worldly pleasures, 2 wives etc. Here > also a malefic should aspect Ma for these predictions to fructify. > Ma in 4th – > Quarrels in home, living in rented house, forsaken by > relatives and quarrels with them. Here too a malefic aspect on Ma is > necessary. > Ma in 7th – > Diseases to wife, Loss (death?) of Wife, late marriage, life > abroad away from wife, interest in prostitution, interest in > perverted sex etc. Here the aspect of malefic is not a must for many > of these results to fructify. Therefore this is Kuja dosha for sure. > In women's horoscope if Ma-Ve combination is present in 7th > she will be too much interested in indulging in sexual activities > with persons other than husband. If Ma-Ve-Mo combination is present > in 7th she will indulge in sex with other persons with the permission > of her husband! If Ma is in 7th and a benefic is there in 9th then > she would be much interested in spirituality, and won't give much > importance to married life. > Ma in 8th - > Diseases related to penis or sexual organs, Loss (death) of > wife, less children, etc. Here also a malefic should aspect Ma for > these predictions to fructify. > In women's horoscope if Ma is in 8th, she will cause bad name for the > family in which she is born. If the Dasa of Navamsa lord of 8th lord > occurs then at that period her husband will die. If Ma-Ve-Ju > combination is present in 8th she will have many abortions, or some > children may die at birth. > Therefore Ma in 8th can cause very bad results at times and so it > could be considered as Kuja dosha. > Ma in 12th – > Life away from home and wife (i.e. going abroad). > > All these indicates that except the placement of Ma in 7th or > 8th the other combinations are not that dreaded. Normally they can > not cause death of Husband/Wife. > Then what was the logic behind frightening all with the wrong > prediction of Death (!) related to the placement of Ma in 1-2-4-7- 8 ? > I will clarify – > Ma in Lagna – Aspects 7th house which is related to marriage. > Ma in 2nd - Aspects 8th house which is related to life after > marriage. > Ma in 4th – Aspects 7th house which its special Drishti in 4th house. > Ma in 7th –7th house is related to marriage. > Ma in 8th - 8th house is related to life after marriage. > Ma in 12th – Aspects 7th with its special Drishti in 8th house. > > So essentially the concept is related to 7th and 8th house only. But > the fool who created this sloka never considered that the predictions > given for Ma in 1-2-4-12 house are not as strong as Death, even > though all these have some special relation to marriage and married > life. > Even for the placement of Ma in 7th and 8th house, there are > many rules of exceptions, which makes this dreaded dosha almost non- > existent! The ancient classics never uses the term Kuja Dosha. If we > start using the word Kuja dosha, then why can't we start using the > words Sani Dosha, Surya Dosha, Rahu Dosha, Ju Dosha (yap, Ju in Cp in > 7th can cause death of wife), Me dosha (Yap, Me in Ta in 7th can > cuase loss of first wife), Ve Dosha (yap, Ve in Sc can cause death of > wife), etc as well?! We are not using it, and so let us get rid of > the word Kuja Dosha as well. > If you go for remedies, go for all these and many more or otherwise > reject the costly remedies suggested for this dosha (which only help > to strengthen the pocket of the astrologers or his helpers). It is > better to reject that astrologer as well, since probably he is not a > true astrologer, who follows the classics and thinks for the native. > He is probably just using a frightening technique he got from a > fatherless sloka for some purpose! It could be just to safe guard his > respect as an astrologer (when all other will say that it is Kuja > Dosha, how can be stay back!), or may be to reap money, or may be… > there could be many other reasons as well. > Ma is just like any other planet, the special predictions given for > its particular placement is important and not the dreaded names life > Kuja Dosha, which makes people fearful and makes their life miserable > for no reason! But still if you are reluctant to reject the word, > then use it only related to the placement of Ma in 7th and 8th from > Lagna or Moon (which ever is strong). > ======================== > Expecting more inputs on the same, and looking forward to an > elaborate discussion of placement of grahas in 7th and 8th house, and > their influence on married life- > Love, > Sreenadh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Dear Gaurav, Why did u delete those files? I think those were really interesting posts. I had just started reading the article on Indus Valley.... When doubts n queries are raised on my > articles...so its better if i refrain from uploading them... So what if doubts and queries are raised? This is the true test of the " goodness " of any article, i.e., how many thoughts it generates in others. Doubts and queries are a very essential part of learning, aren't they? I do wish u good luck in your research into these subjects. ITs a great beginning!!! Keep it up! And do post back the articles, if u can. Love, Vinita , " " <gg_0202 wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Shree Sreenadhji, > Thanq for your feedback...When doubts n queries are raised on my > articles...so its better if i refrain from uploading them...As they > can create a false meaning...who r new to this science... > So i consider it to be better if i delete all files posted by me... > I hope that this doesn't hurt u, > Thanq, > Wish u all success, > With Humbleness, > > > > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > The following is some thoughts on Kuja Dosha when I read the > > article by Gourav Ghosh on the same. > > > > Kuja Dosha > > ----------- > > Gourav Ghosh quotes the following sloka for Kuja Dosha- > > ==> > > The classic says, > > lagne byaye ca pätäle yämitre cäñöame kuje| > > kanyä harati bhartäram bhartä bhäryäm haniñyati|| > > It means that presence of Mars in Lagna, 4th house, 7th house, > 12th > > house or in 8th house results into Kuja Dosha. If the bride has > this > > kind of placement of Mars in her chart, then she becomes the > reason > > for her husband's death, while if the groom has this kind of > > placement, then he becomes the reason for his wife's death. > > Some often includes 2nd house for no reason, others consider it > with > > respect to other planets, which should not be done & reasonless. > > <== > > He does not say in which classic, this sloka is present. Why? > Because > > this is a sloka with no father! This is a sloka that appear in > > the Prarisishta (extra slokas included) in the stri Jataka > (horoscope > > of women) portion of a non-authentic book called Jataka chandrika > > (This book is different from Laghu parasari which is also known as > > Jataka chandrika). > > If Ma placed in 1, 2,4,7,12 (total 5 signs) can produce Kuja Dosha > > then 5/12 = 41.66..% of the horoscope will have Kuja Dosah! If we > > consider Mo as well, then 83.33... % of horoscopes will have Kuja > > Dosha!!! It is absurd! > > > > What is the real predictions that are given for Ma in 2nd, 4th, > 7th > > and 12th from Lagna? How it differs from this absurd sloka? Let us > > have a look at the married life related actual predictions given > in > > texts like Brigu sutra, Varaha hora, Jataka Tatwa etc to have a > clear > > picture :- > > Ma in Lagna - > > May have wounds/diseases, will not have long life, less > > children, too much interest in ladies. If Ma is strong, or > benefics > > aspects Ma all these wouldn't happen, but if at least one malefic > > aspects Ma such effects can be predicted. > > Ma in 2nd – > > Too much interest in worldly pleasures, 2 wives etc. Here > > also a malefic should aspect Ma for these predictions to fructify. > > Ma in 4th – > > Quarrels in home, living in rented house, forsaken by > > relatives and quarrels with them. Here too a malefic aspect on Ma > is > > necessary. > > Ma in 7th – > > Diseases to wife, Loss (death?) of Wife, late marriage, life > > abroad away from wife, interest in prostitution, interest in > > perverted sex etc. Here the aspect of malefic is not a must for > many > > of these results to fructify. Therefore this is Kuja dosha for > sure. > > In women's horoscope if Ma-Ve combination is present in 7th > > she will be too much interested in indulging in sexual activities > > with persons other than husband. If Ma-Ve-Mo combination is > present > > in 7th she will indulge in sex with other persons with the > permission > > of her husband! If Ma is in 7th and a benefic is there in 9th then > > she would be much interested in spirituality, and won't give much > > importance to married life. > > Ma in 8th - > > Diseases related to penis or sexual organs, Loss (death) of > > wife, less children, etc. Here also a malefic should aspect Ma for > > these predictions to fructify. > > In women's horoscope if Ma is in 8th, she will cause bad name for > the > > family in which she is born. If the Dasa of Navamsa lord of 8th > lord > > occurs then at that period her husband will die. If Ma-Ve-Ju > > combination is present in 8th she will have many abortions, or > some > > children may die at birth. > > Therefore Ma in 8th can cause very bad results at times and so it > > could be considered as Kuja dosha. > > Ma in 12th – > > Life away from home and wife (i.e. going abroad). > > > > All these indicates that except the placement of Ma in 7th > or > > 8th the other combinations are not that dreaded. Normally they can > > not cause death of Husband/Wife. > > Then what was the logic behind frightening all with the > wrong > > prediction of Death (!) related to the placement of Ma in 1-2-4- 7- > 8 ? > > I will clarify – > > Ma in Lagna – Aspects 7th house which is related to marriage. > > Ma in 2nd - Aspects 8th house which is related to life after > > marriage. > > Ma in 4th – Aspects 7th house which its special Drishti in 4th > house. > > Ma in 7th –7th house is related to marriage. > > Ma in 8th - 8th house is related to life after marriage. > > Ma in 12th – Aspects 7th with its special Drishti in 8th house. > > > > So essentially the concept is related to 7th and 8th house only. > But > > the fool who created this sloka never considered that the > predictions > > given for Ma in 1-2-4-12 house are not as strong as Death, even > > though all these have some special relation to marriage and > married > > life. > > Even for the placement of Ma in 7th and 8th house, there are > > many rules of exceptions, which makes this dreaded dosha almost > non- > > existent! The ancient classics never uses the term Kuja Dosha. If > we > > start using the word Kuja dosha, then why can't we start using the > > words Sani Dosha, Surya Dosha, Rahu Dosha, Ju Dosha (yap, Ju in Cp > in > > 7th can cause death of wife), Me dosha (Yap, Me in Ta in 7th can > > cuase loss of first wife), Ve Dosha (yap, Ve in Sc can cause death > of > > wife), etc as well?! We are not using it, and so let us get rid of > > the word Kuja Dosha as well. > > If you go for remedies, go for all these and many more or > otherwise > > reject the costly remedies suggested for this dosha (which only > help > > to strengthen the pocket of the astrologers or his helpers). It is > > better to reject that astrologer as well, since probably he is not > a > > true astrologer, who follows the classics and thinks for the > native. > > He is probably just using a frightening technique he got from a > > fatherless sloka for some purpose! It could be just to safe guard > his > > respect as an astrologer (when all other will say that it is Kuja > > Dosha, how can be stay back!), or may be to reap money, or may be… > > there could be many other reasons as well. > > Ma is just like any other planet, the special predictions given > for > > its particular placement is important and not the dreaded names > life > > Kuja Dosha, which makes people fearful and makes their life > miserable > > for no reason! But still if you are reluctant to reject the word, > > then use it only related to the placement of Ma in 7th and 8th > from > > Lagna or Moon (which ever is strong). > > ======================== > > Expecting more inputs on the same, and looking forward to an > > elaborate discussion of placement of grahas in 7th and 8th house, > and > > their influence on married life- > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 And Gaurav, also look at the brilliance of reducing all those " unhappy " placements of Mars to just 2, i.e., in the 7th and 8th Houses. Don't u think this is a good learning experience for us too? And it happened just because of your article!!! , " vinita kumar " <shankar_mamta wrote: > > Dear Gaurav, > > Why did u delete those files? I think those were really interesting > posts. I had just started reading the article on Indus Valley.... > > When doubts n queries are raised on my > > articles...so its better if i refrain from uploading them... > > So what if doubts and queries are raised? This is the true test of > the " goodness " of any article, i.e., how many thoughts it generates > in others. Doubts and queries are a very essential part of learning, > aren't they? > > I do wish u good luck in your research into these subjects. ITs a > great beginning!!! Keep it up! And do post back the articles, if u > can. > > Love, > Vinita > > , " " > <gg_0202@> wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Shree Sreenadhji, > > Thanq for your feedback...When doubts n queries are raised on my > > articles...so its better if i refrain from uploading them...As > they > > can create a false meaning...who r new to this science... > > So i consider it to be better if i delete all files posted by me... > > I hope that this doesn't hurt u, > > Thanq, > > Wish u all success, > > With Humbleness, > > > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > The following is some thoughts on Kuja Dosha when I read the > > > article by Gourav Ghosh on the same. > > > > > > Kuja Dosha > > > ----------- > > > Gourav Ghosh quotes the following sloka for Kuja Dosha- > > > ==> > > > The classic says, > > > lagne byaye ca pätäle yämitre cäñöame kuje| > > > kanyä harati bhartäram bhartä bhäryäm haniñyati|| > > > It means that presence of Mars in Lagna, 4th house, 7th house, > > 12th > > > house or in 8th house results into Kuja Dosha. If the bride has > > this > > > kind of placement of Mars in her chart, then she becomes the > > reason > > > for her husband's death, while if the groom has this kind of > > > placement, then he becomes the reason for his wife's death. > > > Some often includes 2nd house for no reason, others consider it > > with > > > respect to other planets, which should not be done & reasonless. > > > <== > > > He does not say in which classic, this sloka is present. Why? > > Because > > > this is a sloka with no father! This is a sloka that appear > in > > > the Prarisishta (extra slokas included) in the stri Jataka > > (horoscope > > > of women) portion of a non-authentic book called Jataka > chandrika > > > (This book is different from Laghu parasari which is also known > as > > > Jataka chandrika). > > > If Ma placed in 1, 2,4,7,12 (total 5 signs) can produce Kuja > Dosha > > > then 5/12 = 41.66..% of the horoscope will have Kuja Dosah! If > we > > > consider Mo as well, then 83.33... % of horoscopes will have > Kuja > > > Dosha!!! It is absurd! > > > > > > What is the real predictions that are given for Ma in 2nd, 4th, > > 7th > > > and 12th from Lagna? How it differs from this absurd sloka? Let > us > > > have a look at the married life related actual predictions given > > in > > > texts like Brigu sutra, Varaha hora, Jataka Tatwa etc to have a > > clear > > > picture :- > > > Ma in Lagna - > > > May have wounds/diseases, will not have long life, less > > > children, too much interest in ladies. If Ma is strong, or > > benefics > > > aspects Ma all these wouldn't happen, but if at least one > malefic > > > aspects Ma such effects can be predicted. > > > Ma in 2nd – > > > Too much interest in worldly pleasures, 2 wives etc. Here > > > also a malefic should aspect Ma for these predictions to > fructify. > > > Ma in 4th – > > > Quarrels in home, living in rented house, forsaken by > > > relatives and quarrels with them. Here too a malefic aspect on > Ma > > is > > > necessary. > > > Ma in 7th – > > > Diseases to wife, Loss (death?) of Wife, late marriage, life > > > abroad away from wife, interest in prostitution, interest in > > > perverted sex etc. Here the aspect of malefic is not a must for > > many > > > of these results to fructify. Therefore this is Kuja dosha for > > sure. > > > In women's horoscope if Ma-Ve combination is present in 7th > > > she will be too much interested in indulging in sexual > activities > > > with persons other than husband. If Ma-Ve-Mo combination is > > present > > > in 7th she will indulge in sex with other persons with the > > permission > > > of her husband! If Ma is in 7th and a benefic is there in 9th > then > > > she would be much interested in spirituality, and won't give > much > > > importance to married life. > > > Ma in 8th - > > > Diseases related to penis or sexual organs, Loss (death) of > > > wife, less children, etc. Here also a malefic should aspect Ma > for > > > these predictions to fructify. > > > In women's horoscope if Ma is in 8th, she will cause bad name > for > > the > > > family in which she is born. If the Dasa of Navamsa lord of 8th > > lord > > > occurs then at that period her husband will die. If Ma-Ve-Ju > > > combination is present in 8th she will have many abortions, or > > some > > > children may die at birth. > > > Therefore Ma in 8th can cause very bad results at times and so > it > > > could be considered as Kuja dosha. > > > Ma in 12th – > > > Life away from home and wife (i.e. going abroad). > > > > > > All these indicates that except the placement of Ma in 7th > > or > > > 8th the other combinations are not that dreaded. Normally they > can > > > not cause death of Husband/Wife. > > > Then what was the logic behind frightening all with the > > wrong > > > prediction of Death (!) related to the placement of Ma in 1-2- 4- > 7- > > 8 ? > > > I will clarify – > > > Ma in Lagna – Aspects 7th house which is related to marriage. > > > Ma in 2nd - Aspects 8th house which is related to life after > > > marriage. > > > Ma in 4th – Aspects 7th house which its special Drishti in 4th > > house. > > > Ma in 7th –7th house is related to marriage. > > > Ma in 8th - 8th house is related to life after marriage. > > > Ma in 12th – Aspects 7th with its special Drishti in 8th house. > > > > > > So essentially the concept is related to 7th and 8th house only. > > But > > > the fool who created this sloka never considered that the > > predictions > > > given for Ma in 1-2-4-12 house are not as strong as Death, even > > > though all these have some special relation to marriage and > > married > > > life. > > > Even for the placement of Ma in 7th and 8th house, there are > > > many rules of exceptions, which makes this dreaded dosha almost > > non- > > > existent! The ancient classics never uses the term Kuja Dosha. > If > > we > > > start using the word Kuja dosha, then why can't we start using > the > > > words Sani Dosha, Surya Dosha, Rahu Dosha, Ju Dosha (yap, Ju in > Cp > > in > > > 7th can cause death of wife), Me dosha (Yap, Me in Ta in 7th can > > > cuase loss of first wife), Ve Dosha (yap, Ve in Sc can cause > death > > of > > > wife), etc as well?! We are not using it, and so let us get rid > of > > > the word Kuja Dosha as well. > > > If you go for remedies, go for all these and many more or > > otherwise > > > reject the costly remedies suggested for this dosha (which only > > help > > > to strengthen the pocket of the astrologers or his helpers). It > is > > > better to reject that astrologer as well, since probably he is > not > > a > > > true astrologer, who follows the classics and thinks for the > > native. > > > He is probably just using a frightening technique he got from a > > > fatherless sloka for some purpose! It could be just to safe > guard > > his > > > respect as an astrologer (when all other will say that it is > Kuja > > > Dosha, how can be stay back!), or may be to reap money, or may > be… > > > there could be many other reasons as well. > > > Ma is just like any other planet, the special predictions given > > for > > > its particular placement is important and not the dreaded names > > life > > > Kuja Dosha, which makes people fearful and makes their life > > miserable > > > for no reason! But still if you are reluctant to reject the > word, > > > then use it only related to the placement of Ma in 7th and 8th > > from > > > Lagna or Moon (which ever is strong). > > > ======================== > > > Expecting more inputs on the same, and looking forward to an > > > elaborate discussion of placement of grahas in 7th and 8th > house, > > and > > > their influence on married life- > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Dear Vinita ji, I had a chat with Gourav ji. Yes, I too requested him to upload it again. But he feels that such a file will cause the learners to think in wrong direction, and so is not willing to upload it agian! But yes, I hop, we can see many more contributions from him in the coming days. I am looking forward to that. Our chat branched to the total system of horoscope matching and I think that would be a good disscussion, were Gaurav ji will provide good contributions. My Regards to him. Love, Sreenadh , " vinita kumar " <shankar_mamta wrote: > > Dear Gaurav, > > Why did u delete those files? I think those were really interesting > posts. I had just started reading the article on Indus Valley.... > > When doubts n queries are raised on my > > articles...so its better if i refrain from uploading them... > > So what if doubts and queries are raised? This is the true test of > the " goodness " of any article, i.e., how many thoughts it generates > in others. Doubts and queries are a very essential part of learning, > aren't they? > > I do wish u good luck in your research into these subjects. ITs a > great beginning!!! Keep it up! And do post back the articles, if u > can. > > Love, > Vinita > > , " " > <gg_0202@> wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Shree Sreenadhji, > > Thanq for your feedback...When doubts n queries are raised on my > > articles...so its better if i refrain from uploading them...As > they > > can create a false meaning...who r new to this science... > > So i consider it to be better if i delete all files posted by me... > > I hope that this doesn't hurt u, > > Thanq, > > Wish u all success, > > With Humbleness, > > > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > The following is some thoughts on Kuja Dosha when I read the > > > article by Gourav Ghosh on the same. > > > > > > Kuja Dosha > > > ----------- > > > Gourav Ghosh quotes the following sloka for Kuja Dosha- > > > ==> > > > The classic says, > > > lagne byaye ca pätäle yämitre cäñöame kuje| > > > kanyä harati bhartäram bhartä bhäryäm haniñyati|| > > > It means that presence of Mars in Lagna, 4th house, 7th house, > > 12th > > > house or in 8th house results into Kuja Dosha. If the bride has > > this > > > kind of placement of Mars in her chart, then she becomes the > > reason > > > for her husband's death, while if the groom has this kind of > > > placement, then he becomes the reason for his wife's death. > > > Some often includes 2nd house for no reason, others consider it > > with > > > respect to other planets, which should not be done & reasonless. > > > <== > > > He does not say in which classic, this sloka is present. Why? > > Because > > > this is a sloka with no father! This is a sloka that appear > in > > > the Prarisishta (extra slokas included) in the stri Jataka > > (horoscope > > > of women) portion of a non-authentic book called Jataka > chandrika > > > (This book is different from Laghu parasari which is also known > as > > > Jataka chandrika). > > > If Ma placed in 1, 2,4,7,12 (total 5 signs) can produce Kuja > Dosha > > > then 5/12 = 41.66..% of the horoscope will have Kuja Dosah! If > we > > > consider Mo as well, then 83.33... % of horoscopes will have > Kuja > > > Dosha!!! It is absurd! > > > > > > What is the real predictions that are given for Ma in 2nd, 4th, > > 7th > > > and 12th from Lagna? How it differs from this absurd sloka? Let > us > > > have a look at the married life related actual predictions given > > in > > > texts like Brigu sutra, Varaha hora, Jataka Tatwa etc to have a > > clear > > > picture :- > > > Ma in Lagna - > > > May have wounds/diseases, will not have long life, less > > > children, too much interest in ladies. If Ma is strong, or > > benefics > > > aspects Ma all these wouldn't happen, but if at least one > malefic > > > aspects Ma such effects can be predicted. > > > Ma in 2nd – > > > Too much interest in worldly pleasures, 2 wives etc. Here > > > also a malefic should aspect Ma for these predictions to > fructify. > > > Ma in 4th – > > > Quarrels in home, living in rented house, forsaken by > > > relatives and quarrels with them. Here too a malefic aspect on > Ma > > is > > > necessary. > > > Ma in 7th – > > > Diseases to wife, Loss (death?) of Wife, late marriage, life > > > abroad away from wife, interest in prostitution, interest in > > > perverted sex etc. Here the aspect of malefic is not a must for > > many > > > of these results to fructify. Therefore this is Kuja dosha for > > sure. > > > In women's horoscope if Ma-Ve combination is present in 7th > > > she will be too much interested in indulging in sexual > activities > > > with persons other than husband. If Ma-Ve-Mo combination is > > present > > > in 7th she will indulge in sex with other persons with the > > permission > > > of her husband! If Ma is in 7th and a benefic is there in 9th > then > > > she would be much interested in spirituality, and won't give > much > > > importance to married life. > > > Ma in 8th - > > > Diseases related to penis or sexual organs, Loss (death) of > > > wife, less children, etc. Here also a malefic should aspect Ma > for > > > these predictions to fructify. > > > In women's horoscope if Ma is in 8th, she will cause bad name > for > > the > > > family in which she is born. If the Dasa of Navamsa lord of 8th > > lord > > > occurs then at that period her husband will die. If Ma-Ve-Ju > > > combination is present in 8th she will have many abortions, or > > some > > > children may die at birth. > > > Therefore Ma in 8th can cause very bad results at times and so > it > > > could be considered as Kuja dosha. > > > Ma in 12th – > > > Life away from home and wife (i.e. going abroad). > > > > > > All these indicates that except the placement of Ma in 7th > > or > > > 8th the other combinations are not that dreaded. Normally they > can > > > not cause death of Husband/Wife. > > > Then what was the logic behind frightening all with the > > wrong > > > prediction of Death (!) related to the placement of Ma in 1-2-4- > 7- > > 8 ? > > > I will clarify – > > > Ma in Lagna – Aspects 7th house which is related to marriage. > > > Ma in 2nd - Aspects 8th house which is related to life after > > > marriage. > > > Ma in 4th – Aspects 7th house which its special Drishti in 4th > > house. > > > Ma in 7th –7th house is related to marriage. > > > Ma in 8th - 8th house is related to life after marriage. > > > Ma in 12th – Aspects 7th with its special Drishti in 8th house. > > > > > > So essentially the concept is related to 7th and 8th house only. > > But > > > the fool who created this sloka never considered that the > > predictions > > > given for Ma in 1-2-4-12 house are not as strong as Death, even > > > though all these have some special relation to marriage and > > married > > > life. > > > Even for the placement of Ma in 7th and 8th house, there are > > > many rules of exceptions, which makes this dreaded dosha almost > > non- > > > existent! The ancient classics never uses the term Kuja Dosha. > If > > we > > > start using the word Kuja dosha, then why can't we start using > the > > > words Sani Dosha, Surya Dosha, Rahu Dosha, Ju Dosha (yap, Ju in > Cp > > in > > > 7th can cause death of wife), Me dosha (Yap, Me in Ta in 7th can > > > cuase loss of first wife), Ve Dosha (yap, Ve in Sc can cause > death > > of > > > wife), etc as well?! We are not using it, and so let us get rid > of > > > the word Kuja Dosha as well. > > > If you go for remedies, go for all these and many more or > > otherwise > > > reject the costly remedies suggested for this dosha (which only > > help > > > to strengthen the pocket of the astrologers or his helpers). It > is > > > better to reject that astrologer as well, since probably he is > not > > a > > > true astrologer, who follows the classics and thinks for the > > native. > > > He is probably just using a frightening technique he got from a > > > fatherless sloka for some purpose! It could be just to safe > guard > > his > > > respect as an astrologer (when all other will say that it is > Kuja > > > Dosha, how can be stay back!), or may be to reap money, or may > be… > > > there could be many other reasons as well. > > > Ma is just like any other planet, the special predictions given > > for > > > its particular placement is important and not the dreaded names > > life > > > Kuja Dosha, which makes people fearful and makes their life > > miserable > > > for no reason! But still if you are reluctant to reject the > word, > > > then use it only related to the placement of Ma in 7th and 8th > > from > > > Lagna or Moon (which ever is strong). > > > ======================== > > > Expecting more inputs on the same, and looking forward to an > > > elaborate discussion of placement of grahas in 7th and 8th > house, > > and > > > their influence on married life- > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Dear All, An edited version of a Jun 2006 conversation on Kuja Dosha is posted in AIA website at: Kuja Dosha Check it out! :)Love and regards,Sreenadh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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