Guest guest Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Dear Shreenadh, I am a learner. How can I predict? (I only make conjectures and very often off the mark). Supposing u tell us what could be predicted? Love, Vinita , sree nadh <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Vinita ji, > ==> > Among > > > Mahapurusha yogas also Shasha yoga and Ruchaka > > yoga are not rated > > > that " fortunate " . > <== > Who are the rating authorities. > > about placement of Saturn in 6th > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > that? > > It has " good " digbala, > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > that? > > It aspects 2 upachaya houses > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > that? > > of which one is its own house > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > that? > > and one Trik sthan > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > that? > > for which it is karaka. > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > that? > > Dear Verna ji, > > There's a rule about Saturn, which states that it > > does good to the house it's placed > ok, the question is - What GOOD ? > > and mars the houses it aspects > ok, the question is - What GOOD ? > > (the exact reverse for Jupiter, I might add) > ok, the question is - What BAD ? > > Apply that to a fem with Sa in 6th and > > you'll see that the 8th (spouse), 12th and 3rd house > > effects are somewhat aberrated. > Oh, god! At least some indication towards prediction > is there. But is it clear?! > So the real question is WHAT PREDICTION SHOULD BE > GIVEN TO EACH COMBINATION OR POSIBILITIY WE FIND? Easy > escapes and astrological statements will not do. > P.S. : Neglecting the actual predictions that should > be given (or actual results that should be predicted), > and giving more importance to astrological statements > which are just a tool to arrive at those results, and > in essence being held up in them is one of the pit > fall into which current astrology has fallen into. > Love, > Sreenadh > > > --- vernalagnia <vernalagnia wrote: > > > , > > " vinita kumar " > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote: > > > > > > Agreed! > > > > > > Anything to do with malefics is not too good > > anyway. Among > > > Mahapurusha yogas also Shasha yoga and Ruchaka > > yoga are not rated > > > that " fortunate " . > > > > > > My wife's chart has a deb, retro Saturn in 7th, > > which might be an > > oblique Sasa yoga which is known to confer an old, > > vice-loving, dumb > > hubby... so astrology isn't all tosh ) > > > > > > > > > What say u about placement of Saturn in 6th for > > Taureans? It > > > has " good " digbala, dosn't it? It aspects 2 > > upachaya houses of > > which one is its own house and one Trik sthan for > > which it is karaka. > > > > > > There's a rule about Saturn, which states that it > > does good to the > > house it's placed and mars the houses it aspects > > (the exact reverse > > for Jupiter, I might add). Apply that to a fem with > > Sa in 6th and > > you'll see that the 8th (spouse), 12th and 3rd house > > effects are > > somewhat aberrated. > > > > +++ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Dear Vinita ji, That is why I started this Taurus Lagna discussion, just like once I did in VA forum with Aries Lagna discussion. Just read those discussion, and my mails on Aries Lagna prediction once again, and try to apply the same here for Taurus Lagna. Shouldn't we try to have a better idea about the life and events in a Taurus Lagna person? P.S.: I can only point my finger towards the Moon, it is you who should follow the direction pointed to by that finger and see the Moon. Osho said some thing like this, I am trying to quote the idea presented by him, since the same applies to the study of astrology as well. Here Aries Lagna discussion was that pointed finger, still only a few able to saw that Moon, and so I am trying to do the same here with Taurus Lagna. I really sound like a saint...yah?! ) Love, Sreenadh --- vinita kumar <shankar_mamta wrote: > Dear Shreenadh, > > I am a learner. How can I predict? (I only make > conjectures and very > often off the mark). Supposing u tell us what could > be predicted? > > Love, > Vinita > , > sree nadh > <sreesog wrote: > > > > Dear Vinita ji, > > ==> > > Among > > > > Mahapurusha yogas also Shasha yoga and Ruchaka > > > yoga are not rated > > > > that " fortunate " . > > <== > > Who are the rating authorities. > > > about placement of Saturn in 6th > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > that? > > > It has " good " digbala, > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > that? > > > It aspects 2 upachaya houses > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > that? > > > of which one is its own house > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > that? > > > and one Trik sthan > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > that? > > > for which it is karaka. > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > that? > > > > Dear Verna ji, > > > There's a rule about Saturn, which states that > it > > > does good to the house it's placed > > ok, the question is - What GOOD ? > > > and mars the houses it aspects > > ok, the question is - What GOOD ? > > > (the exact reverse for Jupiter, I might add) > > ok, the question is - What BAD ? > > > Apply that to a fem with Sa in 6th and > > > you'll see that the 8th (spouse), 12th and 3rd > house > > > effects are somewhat aberrated. > > Oh, god! At least some indication towards > prediction > > is there. But is it clear?! > > So the real question is WHAT PREDICTION SHOULD BE > > GIVEN TO EACH COMBINATION OR POSIBILITIY WE FIND? > Easy > > escapes and astrological statements will not do. > > > P.S. : Neglecting the actual predictions that > should > > be given (or actual results that should be > predicted), > > and giving more importance to astrological > statements > > which are just a tool to arrive at those results, > and > > in essence being held up in them is one of the pit > > fall into which current astrology has fallen into. > > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > > > --- vernalagnia <vernalagnia wrote: > > > > > , > > > " vinita kumar " > > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Agreed! > > > > > > > > Anything to do with malefics is not too good > > > anyway. Among > > > > Mahapurusha yogas also Shasha yoga and Ruchaka > > > yoga are not rated > > > > that " fortunate " . > > > > > > > > > My wife's chart has a deb, retro Saturn in 7th, > > > which might be an > > > oblique Sasa yoga which is known to confer an > old, > > > vice-loving, dumb > > > hubby... so astrology isn't all tosh ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > What say u about placement of Saturn in 6th > for > > > Taureans? It > > > > has " good " digbala, dosn't it? It aspects 2 > > > upachaya houses of > > > which one is its own house and one Trik sthan > for > > > which it is karaka. > > > > > > > > > There's a rule about Saturn, which states that > it > > > does good to the > > > house it's placed and mars the houses it aspects > > > (the exact reverse > > > for Jupiter, I might add). Apply that to a fem > with > > > Sa in 6th and > > > you'll see that the 8th (spouse), 12th and 3rd > house > > > effects are > > > somewhat aberrated. > > > > > > +++ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Dear Shreenadh, All, Here are some views on Taurus Lagna after reading posts on VA - General Characteristics: An earth sign = bound to home?, natives don't (like to) travel very much An Arth sign = wealth (second house of the natural zodiac), like luxuries? Quadurped, bull, obstinate? Ruler Venus = fond of physical pleasures, art, music, poetry, " finer " things in life? Karaka of spouse; Lord of 7th house of the natural zodiac = relationships, partnerships have special meaning? Kalapurusha – 2nd H Taurus represents throat – neck – if Venus is not afflicted, do Taureans have a sweet voice, are fond of singing? Significance of Houses, Signs and Grahas : Sun, Mars and Saturn are less malefic since they own Kendra houses Benefic grahas areVenus, Mercury and Saturn (in an ascending order) ruler of Trikona houses (5,– Mercury good for talking, intellect (?) but not good for children (Venus debilitated in Virgo ruler of 5th; Mercury a eunuch / barren graha). Saturn – a yogakaraka and a badhak planet so may have to struggle in matters relating to 9th and 10th houses, or results will be delayed/ in later life (?). Saturn exalted in house of Venus (6th) – so Saturn besides being a first rate benefic should destroy enemies, depending on placement? 7th House, karaka, Venus is superimposed on inimical Scorpio – reflecting difficulties in relationships/ partnerships / marriage? Venus exalted in house of Jupiter (11th), an upachaya house and therefore strong, but also house of nij dosha – inimical Moon owner of another upachaya house (3rd) also the house of courage and siblings – Moon not friendly towards Venus so will the native suffer due to lack of courage or / and something to do with siblings? Sun rules the house of sukha, not that malefic for Taureans being ruler of Kendra, but being a krura planet will it caste a shadow on sukha? Jupiter, ruler of 8th and 11th a functional malefic – so will Taureans never be lucky in matters of these two houses, or is this good for 8th house? But Venus is exalted in the house of Jupiter (11th) – so are Taureans likely to enjoy gains, good earnings, income? Mars not good for relationships for Taureans (Scorpio a hidden and insect sign – secret liasons?) Mars also rules 12th, house of losses re-inforcing its unlucky side for Taureans? But perhaps it is not a very bad malefic because it is also the ruler of a kendra. I have not been able to quote the Sanskrit shlokas in support of some of the above statements but some of these can be found in Chapter 34 of BPHS (Shlokas 35, 36 and 37). This is the best i could do at present to interpret Taurus lagna. Would like to learn more and also get feedback from other Taureans. Love, Vinita , sree nadh <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Vinita ji, > That is why I started this Taurus Lagna discussion, > just like once I did in VA forum with Aries Lagna > discussion. Just read those discussion, and my > mails on Aries Lagna prediction once again, and try to > apply the same here for Taurus Lagna. Shouldn't we try > to have a better idea about the life and events in a > Taurus Lagna person? > > P.S.: I can only point my finger towards the Moon, it > is you who should follow the direction pointed to by > that finger and see the Moon. Osho said some thing > like this, I am trying to quote the idea presented by > him, since the same applies to the study of astrology > as well. Here Aries Lagna discussion was that > pointed finger, still only a few able to saw that > Moon, and so I am trying to do the same here with > Taurus Lagna. I really sound like a saint...yah?! > ) > Love, > Sreenadh > > --- vinita kumar <shankar_mamta wrote: > > > Dear Shreenadh, > > > > I am a learner. How can I predict? (I only make > > conjectures and very > > often off the mark). Supposing u tell us what could > > be predicted? > > > > Love, > > Vinita > > , > > sree nadh > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vinita ji, > > > ==> > > > Among > > > > > Mahapurusha yogas also Shasha yoga and Ruchaka > > > > yoga are not rated > > > > > that " fortunate " . > > > <== > > > Who are the rating authorities. > > > > about placement of Saturn in 6th > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > that? > > > > It has " good " digbala, > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > that? > > > > It aspects 2 upachaya houses > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > that? > > > > of which one is its own house > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > that? > > > > and one Trik sthan > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > that? > > > > for which it is karaka. > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > that? > > > > > > Dear Verna ji, > > > > There's a rule about Saturn, which states that > > it > > > > does good to the house it's placed > > > ok, the question is - What GOOD ? > > > > and mars the houses it aspects > > > ok, the question is - What GOOD ? > > > > (the exact reverse for Jupiter, I might add) > > > ok, the question is - What BAD ? > > > > Apply that to a fem with Sa in 6th and > > > > you'll see that the 8th (spouse), 12th and 3rd > > house > > > > effects are somewhat aberrated. > > > Oh, god! At least some indication towards > > prediction > > > is there. But is it clear?! > > > So the real question is WHAT PREDICTION SHOULD BE > > > GIVEN TO EACH COMBINATION OR POSIBILITIY WE FIND? > > Easy > > > escapes and astrological statements will not do. > > > > > P.S. : Neglecting the actual predictions that > > should > > > be given (or actual results that should be > > predicted), > > > and giving more importance to astrological > > statements > > > which are just a tool to arrive at those results, > > and > > > in essence being held up in them is one of the pit > > > fall into which current astrology has fallen into. > > > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > --- vernalagnia <vernalagnia@> wrote: > > > > > > > , > > > > " vinita kumar " > > > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Agreed! > > > > > > > > > > Anything to do with malefics is not too good > > > > anyway. Among > > > > > Mahapurusha yogas also Shasha yoga and Ruchaka > > > > yoga are not rated > > > > > that " fortunate " . > > > > > > > > > > > > My wife's chart has a deb, retro Saturn in 7th, > > > > which might be an > > > > oblique Sasa yoga which is known to confer an > > old, > > > > vice-loving, dumb > > > > hubby... so astrology isn't all tosh ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What say u about placement of Saturn in 6th > > for > > > > Taureans? It > > > > > has " good " digbala, dosn't it? It aspects 2 > > > > upachaya houses of > > > > which one is its own house and one Trik sthan > > for > > > > which it is karaka. > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a rule about Saturn, which states that > > it > > > > does good to the > > > > house it's placed and mars the houses it aspects > > > > (the exact reverse > > > > for Jupiter, I might add). Apply that to a fem > > with > > > > Sa in 6th and > > > > you'll see that the 8th (spouse), 12th and 3rd > > house > > > > effects are > > > > somewhat aberrated. > > > > > > > > +++ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Wow!!! That is wonderful! Well done! Now we are on a ground to discuss Taurus Lagna in detail. I will describe, the basic analysis structure for Taurus Lagna in the next mail. Don't you see how reading those mails on Aries Lagna in VA forum helped you in predicting 'results', than making a bunch of astrological statements? This is what I was pointing to. Actually this is the way we should look at every Lagna sign. No criticism of your statements - since they merit more than that. I will describe the method of understanding Taurus Lagna (the method is essentially the same as used for Aries Lagna), and let the Taurus Lagna people and the knowledgeable astrologers who have a collection of people born in Taurus Lagna validate it. Thanks for the knowledge shared. P.S.: Being yourself an individual born in Taurus sign how much helped you in deriving points. Love, Sreenadh , " vinita kumar " <shankar_mamta wrote: > > Dear Shreenadh, All, > > Here are some views on Taurus Lagna after reading posts on VA - > > General Characteristics: > > An earth sign = bound to home?, natives don't (like to) travel very > much > An Arth sign = wealth (second house of the natural zodiac), like > luxuries? > Quadurped, bull, obstinate? > Ruler Venus = fond of physical pleasures, art, music, > poetry, " finer " things in life? > Karaka of spouse; Lord of 7th house of the natural zodiac = > relationships, partnerships have special meaning? > Kalapurusha – 2nd H Taurus represents throat – neck – if Venus is > not afflicted, do Taureans have a sweet voice, are fond of singing? > > Significance of Houses, Signs and Grahas : > > Sun, Mars and Saturn are less malefic since they own Kendra houses > Benefic grahas areVenus, Mercury and Saturn (in an ascending order) > ruler of Trikona houses (5,– Mercury good for talking, intellect (?) > but not good for children (Venus debilitated in Virgo ruler of 5th; > Mercury a eunuch / barren graha). Saturn – a yogakaraka and a badhak > planet so may have to struggle in matters relating to 9th and 10th > houses, or results will be delayed/ in later life (?). Saturn > exalted in house of Venus (6th) – so Saturn besides being a first > rate benefic should destroy enemies, depending on placement? > 7th House, karaka, Venus is superimposed on inimical Scorpio – > reflecting difficulties in relationships/ partnerships / marriage? > Venus exalted in house of Jupiter (11th), an upachaya house and > therefore strong, but also house of nij dosha – inimical > Moon owner of another upachaya house (3rd) also the house of courage > and siblings – Moon not friendly towards Venus so will the native > suffer due to lack of courage or / and something to do with > siblings? > Sun rules the house of sukha, not that malefic for Taureans being > ruler of Kendra, but being a krura planet will it caste a shadow on > sukha? > Jupiter, ruler of 8th and 11th a functional malefic – so will > Taureans never be lucky in matters of these two houses, or is this > good for 8th house? But Venus is exalted in the house of Jupiter > (11th) – so are Taureans likely to enjoy gains, good earnings, > income? > Mars not good for relationships for Taureans (Scorpio a hidden and > insect sign – secret liasons?) Mars also rules 12th, house of losses > re-inforcing its unlucky side for Taureans? But perhaps it is not a > very bad malefic because it is also the ruler of a kendra. > > I have not been able to quote the Sanskrit shlokas in support of > some of the above statements but some of these can be found in > Chapter 34 of BPHS (Shlokas 35, 36 and 37). > > This is the best i could do at present to interpret Taurus lagna. > Would like to learn more and also get feedback from other Taureans. > > Love, > > Vinita > > , sree nadh > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vinita ji, > > That is why I started this Taurus Lagna discussion, > > just like once I did in VA forum with Aries Lagna > > discussion. Just read those discussion, and my > > mails on Aries Lagna prediction once again, and try to > > apply the same here for Taurus Lagna. Shouldn't we try > > to have a better idea about the life and events in a > > Taurus Lagna person? > > > > P.S.: I can only point my finger towards the Moon, it > > is you who should follow the direction pointed to by > > that finger and see the Moon. Osho said some thing > > like this, I am trying to quote the idea presented by > > him, since the same applies to the study of astrology > > as well. Here Aries Lagna discussion was that > > pointed finger, still only a few able to saw that > > Moon, and so I am trying to do the same here with > > Taurus Lagna. I really sound like a saint...yah?! > > ) > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > --- vinita kumar <shankar_mamta@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Shreenadh, > > > > > > I am a learner. How can I predict? (I only make > > > conjectures and very > > > often off the mark). Supposing u tell us what could > > > be predicted? > > > > > > Love, > > > Vinita > > > , > > > sree nadh > > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Vinita ji, > > > > ==> > > > > Among > > > > > > Mahapurusha yogas also Shasha yoga and Ruchaka > > > > > yoga are not rated > > > > > > that " fortunate " . > > > > <== > > > > Who are the rating authorities. > > > > > about placement of Saturn in 6th > > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > > that? > > > > > It has " good " digbala, > > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > > that? > > > > > It aspects 2 upachaya houses > > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > > that? > > > > > of which one is its own house > > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > > that? > > > > > and one Trik sthan > > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > > that? > > > > > for which it is karaka. > > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > > that? > > > > > > > > Dear Verna ji, > > > > > There's a rule about Saturn, which states that > > > it > > > > > does good to the house it's placed > > > > ok, the question is - What GOOD ? > > > > > and mars the houses it aspects > > > > ok, the question is - What GOOD ? > > > > > (the exact reverse for Jupiter, I might add) > > > > ok, the question is - What BAD ? > > > > > Apply that to a fem with Sa in 6th and > > > > > you'll see that the 8th (spouse), 12th and 3rd > > > house > > > > > effects are somewhat aberrated. > > > > Oh, god! At least some indication towards > > > prediction > > > > is there. But is it clear?! > > > > So the real question is WHAT PREDICTION SHOULD BE > > > > GIVEN TO EACH COMBINATION OR POSIBILITIY WE FIND? > > > Easy > > > > escapes and astrological statements will not do. > > > > > > > P.S. : Neglecting the actual predictions that > > > should > > > > be given (or actual results that should be > > > predicted), > > > > and giving more importance to astrological > > > statements > > > > which are just a tool to arrive at those results, > > > and > > > > in essence being held up in them is one of the pit > > > > fall into which current astrology has fallen into. > > > > > > > Love, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > --- vernalagnia <vernalagnia@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > " vinita kumar " > > > > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed! > > > > > > > > > > > > Anything to do with malefics is not too good > > > > > anyway. Among > > > > > > Mahapurusha yogas also Shasha yoga and Ruchaka > > > > > yoga are not rated > > > > > > that " fortunate " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My wife's chart has a deb, retro Saturn in 7th, > > > > > which might be an > > > > > oblique Sasa yoga which is known to confer an > > > old, > > > > > vice-loving, dumb > > > > > hubby... so astrology isn't all tosh ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What say u about placement of Saturn in 6th > > > for > > > > > Taureans? It > > > > > > has " good " digbala, dosn't it? It aspects 2 > > > > > upachaya houses of > > > > > which one is its own house and one Trik sthan > > > for > > > > > which it is karaka. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a rule about Saturn, which states that > > > it > > > > > does good to the > > > > > house it's placed and mars the houses it aspects > > > > > (the exact reverse > > > > > for Jupiter, I might add). Apply that to a fem > > > with > > > > > Sa in 6th and > > > > > you'll see that the 8th (spouse), 12th and 3rd > > > house > > > > > effects are > > > > > somewhat aberrated. > > > > > > > > > > +++ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Sreenadhji, Vinitaji, Tarus Asc discussion..may I contribute please... This what some people say... AKHAND SAMRAJYA YOGA A planetary combination producing a long life of affluence formed by Leo, Scorpio, Aquarius or Taurus as ascendant, making Jupiter rule either the 5th or the 11th house in a natal chart. The yoga also assumes that the rulers of the 2nd, 9th and 11th houses from the Moon are strong. Have fun! Regards, Souvik , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Wow!!! That is wonderful! Well done! > Now we are on a ground to discuss Taurus Lagna in detail. I will > describe, the basic analysis structure for Taurus Lagna in the next > mail. > Don't you see how reading those mails on Aries Lagna in VA forum > helped you in predicting 'results', than making a bunch of > astrological statements? > This is what I was pointing to. Actually this is the way we should > look at every Lagna sign. > No criticism of your statements - since they merit more than > that. I will describe the method of understanding Taurus Lagna > (the method is essentially the same as used for Aries Lagna), and let > the Taurus Lagna people and the knowledgeable astrologers who have a > collection of people born in Taurus Lagna validate it. > Thanks for the knowledge shared. > > P.S.: Being yourself an individual born in Taurus sign how much > helped you in deriving points. > Love, > Sreenadh > > > > , " vinita kumar " > <shankar_mamta@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shreenadh, All, > > > > Here are some views on Taurus Lagna after reading posts on VA - > > > > General Characteristics: > > > > An earth sign = bound to home?, natives don't (like to) travel > very > > much > > An Arth sign = wealth (second house of the natural zodiac), like > > luxuries? > > Quadurped, bull, obstinate? > > Ruler Venus = fond of physical pleasures, art, music, > > poetry, " finer " things in life? > > Karaka of spouse; Lord of 7th house of the natural zodiac = > > relationships, partnerships have special meaning? > > Kalapurusha – 2nd H Taurus represents throat – neck – if Venus is > > not afflicted, do Taureans have a sweet voice, are fond of singing? > > > > Significance of Houses, Signs and Grahas : > > > > Sun, Mars and Saturn are less malefic since they own Kendra houses > > Benefic grahas areVenus, Mercury and Saturn (in an ascending order) > > ruler of Trikona houses (5,– Mercury good for talking, intellect > (?) > > but not good for children (Venus debilitated in Virgo ruler of 5th; > > Mercury a eunuch / barren graha). Saturn – a yogakaraka and a > badhak > > planet so may have to struggle in matters relating to 9th and 10th > > houses, or results will be delayed/ in later life (?). Saturn > > exalted in house of Venus (6th) – so Saturn besides being a first > > rate benefic should destroy enemies, depending on placement? > > 7th House, karaka, Venus is superimposed on inimical Scorpio – > > reflecting difficulties in relationships/ partnerships / marriage? > > Venus exalted in house of Jupiter (11th), an upachaya house and > > therefore strong, but also house of nij dosha – inimical > > Moon owner of another upachaya house (3rd) also the house of > courage > > and siblings – Moon not friendly towards Venus so will the native > > suffer due to lack of courage or / and something to do with > > siblings? > > Sun rules the house of sukha, not that malefic for Taureans being > > ruler of Kendra, but being a krura planet will it caste a shadow on > > sukha? > > Jupiter, ruler of 8th and 11th a functional malefic – so will > > Taureans never be lucky in matters of these two houses, or is this > > good for 8th house? But Venus is exalted in the house of Jupiter > > (11th) – so are Taureans likely to enjoy gains, good earnings, > > income? > > Mars not good for relationships for Taureans (Scorpio a hidden and > > insect sign – secret liasons?) Mars also rules 12th, house of > losses > > re-inforcing its unlucky side for Taureans? But perhaps it is not a > > very bad malefic because it is also the ruler of a kendra. > > > > I have not been able to quote the Sanskrit shlokas in support of > > some of the above statements but some of these can be found in > > Chapter 34 of BPHS (Shlokas 35, 36 and 37). > > > > This is the best i could do at present to interpret Taurus lagna. > > Would like to learn more and also get feedback from other Taureans. > > > > Love, > > > > Vinita > > > > , sree nadh > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vinita ji, > > > That is why I started this Taurus Lagna discussion, > > > just like once I did in VA forum with Aries Lagna > > > discussion. Just read those discussion, and my > > > mails on Aries Lagna prediction once again, and try to > > > apply the same here for Taurus Lagna. Shouldn't we try > > > to have a better idea about the life and events in a > > > Taurus Lagna person? > > > > > > P.S.: I can only point my finger towards the Moon, it > > > is you who should follow the direction pointed to by > > > that finger and see the Moon. Osho said some thing > > > like this, I am trying to quote the idea presented by > > > him, since the same applies to the study of astrology > > > as well. Here Aries Lagna discussion was that > > > pointed finger, still only a few able to saw that > > > Moon, and so I am trying to do the same here with > > > Taurus Lagna. I really sound like a saint...yah?! > > > ) > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > --- vinita kumar <shankar_mamta@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Shreenadh, > > > > > > > > I am a learner. How can I predict? (I only make > > > > conjectures and very > > > > often off the mark). Supposing u tell us what could > > > > be predicted? > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > Vinita > > > > , > > > > sree nadh > > > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vinita ji, > > > > > ==> > > > > > Among > > > > > > > Mahapurusha yogas also Shasha yoga and Ruchaka > > > > > > yoga are not rated > > > > > > > that " fortunate " . > > > > > <== > > > > > Who are the rating authorities. > > > > > > about placement of Saturn in 6th > > > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > > > that? > > > > > > It has " good " digbala, > > > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > > > that? > > > > > > It aspects 2 upachaya houses > > > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > > > that? > > > > > > of which one is its own house > > > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > > > that? > > > > > > and one Trik sthan > > > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > > > that? > > > > > > for which it is karaka. > > > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > > > that? > > > > > > > > > > Dear Verna ji, > > > > > > There's a rule about Saturn, which states that > > > > it > > > > > > does good to the house it's placed > > > > > ok, the question is - What GOOD ? > > > > > > and mars the houses it aspects > > > > > ok, the question is - What GOOD ? > > > > > > (the exact reverse for Jupiter, I might add) > > > > > ok, the question is - What BAD ? > > > > > > Apply that to a fem with Sa in 6th and > > > > > > you'll see that the 8th (spouse), 12th and 3rd > > > > house > > > > > > effects are somewhat aberrated. > > > > > Oh, god! At least some indication towards > > > > prediction > > > > > is there. But is it clear?! > > > > > So the real question is WHAT PREDICTION SHOULD BE > > > > > GIVEN TO EACH COMBINATION OR POSIBILITIY WE FIND? > > > > Easy > > > > > escapes and astrological statements will not do. > > > > > > > > > P.S. : Neglecting the actual predictions that > > > > should > > > > > be given (or actual results that should be > > > > predicted), > > > > > and giving more importance to astrological > > > > statements > > > > > which are just a tool to arrive at those results, > > > > and > > > > > in essence being held up in them is one of the pit > > > > > fall into which current astrology has fallen into. > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- vernalagnia <vernalagnia@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > " vinita kumar " > > > > > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anything to do with malefics is not too good > > > > > > anyway. Among > > > > > > > Mahapurusha yogas also Shasha yoga and Ruchaka > > > > > > yoga are not rated > > > > > > > that " fortunate " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My wife's chart has a deb, retro Saturn in 7th, > > > > > > which might be an > > > > > > oblique Sasa yoga which is known to confer an > > > > old, > > > > > > vice-loving, dumb > > > > > > hubby... so astrology isn't all tosh ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What say u about placement of Saturn in 6th > > > > for > > > > > > Taureans? It > > > > > > > has " good " digbala, dosn't it? It aspects 2 > > > > > > upachaya houses of > > > > > > which one is its own house and one Trik sthan > > > > for > > > > > > which it is karaka. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a rule about Saturn, which states that > > > > it > > > > > > does good to the > > > > > > house it's placed and mars the houses it aspects > > > > > > (the exact reverse > > > > > > for Jupiter, I might add). Apply that to a fem > > > > with > > > > > > Sa in 6th and > > > > > > you'll see that the 8th (spouse), 12th and 3rd > > > > house > > > > > > effects are > > > > > > somewhat aberrated. > > > > > > > > > > > > +++ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Taurus Lagna ----------------- Shape = Bull. A good and beautiful body, almost a narcissist, care too much for the bodily and mental well being of oneself, selfish, good high, muscle body, healthy physique, beautiful walking style, likes vegetarian food than non-veg, strong thighs and bulky bottom, kind, helping nature, takes too much responsibilities, feels that life is burdened with too much responsibilities, takes life too seriously, mostly fail to see what others think and feel since he/she is too much immersed in his own thoughts and emotions. Ta is a quadruped sign. This indicates that the native spend his/her childhood in a good house in a village in kingly manner. Agriculture, servants (helpers 3rd house), good amount of land property for relatives, etc will be part of memory. The native Sign Lord = Venus. Probably dark brown skin or clear white skin, interest in music and other art forms, special interest in dress and cosmetics, big beautiful eyes, clear black beautiful hair, likes luxuries and enjoys sex. Oily skin, pimples etc and beauty problems due to that at teenage. Ve is lord of Lagna and 6th exalted in Pc and debilitated in Vi There is a constant inner conflict in him. The mind is always ripped apart between selfishness and understanding of real justice. Mostly justice (Li) fails and Selfishness (Ta) wins. Since Ve is the 6th lord as well, the fight in support of or against sex life rules their life. Likes cleanliness and will try to exercise the same habit in others as well. Likes gardening, agriculture etc. Lagna lord exalted in 11th – will have elder brothers or sisters, but will get a chance to control even them like an elder one, as indicated by 11th lord exalted in 3rd. 6th lord exalted in 11th – will have many enemies. Lagna lord Ve debilitated in 2nd – Will have some trouble having children. 5th sign Vi is female, indicating that the native will probably would have one or two (probably two since Vi is dwiswabhava sign indicating two) daughters. Lagna lord debilitated in Vi (naval portion), some trouble related to interior organs in navel portion. Pregnancy problems, urinary excretory organs related problems, infections etc is a possibility. 6th lord Ve is Female sign – enmity with ladies or due to ladies. Ve exalted in 11th – more than one elder ones (brothers/sisters). Ta is a stira sign, which indicates that the native has a steady nature, and at times fails to change with the changing situations. Due to this memory will be given more importance and good/bad memories would be cherished always. In essence he/she would like to live a half real/ half imaginative life. 3rd lord Mo exalted in Lagna Some special preference as an youngster among co-born. Nature of mind and body of a Taurus native depends too much on the strength (pakshabala) of Mo for this reason. If Mo is week, then the native will have darkish skin, slim body, won't care much for beauty in the early stages of life etc. If Mo is strong, then the native will have a strong and bulky body, fair skin, plump body, will care too much about beauty and cosmetics even from the early stages of life etc. Mo (significator of Mother) exalted in Lagna indicates that, especially if the native is a girl, she would have to full fill many responsibilities at home like her mother. 3rd house Cn is a water sign, and the lord of it exalted in Lagna indicates that the native will have a special interest in Water sports like swimming, would like to bath many times a day, will like to visit sea lakes and the like etc. Here analysis is shown only for Lagna house. Continue with the same type of analysis for all the houses such as 2nd house, 3rd house etc, which will give a better picture about the life and nature of the Taurus Lagna native. Some other points ---------------------- Mo owns 12th house from 4th (signifies mother). The 4th lord exalted in 12th house from Lagna. The significator of mother Mo gets exalted in Lagna. All these together indicates that, the hard life lead by the mother of the native will have a high impact on the memories and nature of the native. The native won't get much love neither from mother (4th house owned by a fire planet), nor from father (9th house owned by another malefic). He/She would be more affectionate towards the mother, and will think that the suffering to the mother is mostly caused by the father, even though there would be a some what good relation between the mother and father. A ruling father (or a father with bad habits such as drinking or the like) and an obedient/suffering/occasionally revolting mother is the general trend for Taurus native. This gives a hard impression of life for him, and he/she really tries to shake off and come out of this shade, and runs after happiness and life without worries. But for sure these memories leave a permanent mark on the native, making him/her improper to handle responsibilities. Coupled with natures like selfishness, running after happiness, tendency to avoid responsibilities, taking life too seriously etc, makes the native fearful, an individual who normally lacks leadership qualities etc, makes him/her an improper fellow to handle independent responsibilities, or do true innovative revolutionary studies. But the native will never be ready to accept this fact, and always thinks and tries to project him/her as an able person. He/She always seeks for appreciation form all quarters and feels happy if it is awarded and feels offended if someone criticizes him/her, even if it is true. But inside them they know this truth, and so respects those who do this kind of criticism but at the same time convinces them (through love) that he/she is not against them. Some other points – • Many brothers/sisters as pointed by 11th lord exalted in 3rd. • Untimely death of elder co-born as indicated by 11th lord having 8th lordship as well. • Relatives in high power in the past as indicated by 4th lord Su exalted in 12th. • Pregnancy problems for women. • Loss of relatives and high interest in family history as indicated by Stira sign in 4th and Su exalted in 12th. • Job away from home (native place) playing a major role in life, even though the native will return to his native place later, and would have strong ties there. • Unsatisfied married life, and early death of husband/wife than the native, as indicated by the lordship of 12th for the 7th lord. • Long life (longevity) as indicated by the lordship of 8th house for Ju, and amrita graha. • Planet that can cause either maximum damage or maximum help to the native due to its unique ownership of house and exaltation debilitation relations – Sa (father, guru, luck) and Ma (brothers/sisters, husband, sadness). • The planet that can give maximum positive effect and happiness – Me (children and knowledge) • Remedial gem stone – Emerald in platinum ring. Remember that all these covers only 1/12 of what can be predicted after knowing that the native is born in Taurus Lagna. I hope others will continue with the same technique, and bring out the total general nature and life events of the native, just by knowing the fact that he/she is born in Taurus Lagna. P.S.: I wait for more inputs on Taurus Lagna from other learned members. Please come forward and comment on the same. Love, Sreenadh , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Wow!!! That is wonderful! Well done! > Now we are on a ground to discuss Taurus Lagna in detail. I will > describe, the basic analysis structure for Taurus Lagna in the next > mail. > Don't you see how reading those mails on Aries Lagna in VA forum > helped you in predicting 'results', than making a bunch of > astrological statements? > This is what I was pointing to. Actually this is the way we should > look at every Lagna sign. > No criticism of your statements - since they merit more than > that. I will describe the method of understanding Taurus Lagna > (the method is essentially the same as used for Aries Lagna), and let > the Taurus Lagna people and the knowledgeable astrologers who have a > collection of people born in Taurus Lagna validate it. > Thanks for the knowledge shared. > > P.S.: Being yourself an individual born in Taurus sign how much > helped you in deriving points. > Love, > Sreenadh > > > > , " vinita kumar " > <shankar_mamta@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shreenadh, All, > > > > Here are some views on Taurus Lagna after reading posts on VA - > > > > General Characteristics: > > > > An earth sign = bound to home?, natives don't (like to) travel > very > > much > > An Arth sign = wealth (second house of the natural zodiac), like > > luxuries? > > Quadurped, bull, obstinate? > > Ruler Venus = fond of physical pleasures, art, music, > > poetry, " finer " things in life? > > Karaka of spouse; Lord of 7th house of the natural zodiac = > > relationships, partnerships have special meaning? > > Kalapurusha – 2nd H Taurus represents throat – neck – if Venus is > > not afflicted, do Taureans have a sweet voice, are fond of singing? > > > > Significance of Houses, Signs and Grahas : > > > > Sun, Mars and Saturn are less malefic since they own Kendra houses > > Benefic grahas areVenus, Mercury and Saturn (in an ascending order) > > ruler of Trikona houses (5,– Mercury good for talking, intellect > (?) > > but not good for children (Venus debilitated in Virgo ruler of 5th; > > Mercury a eunuch / barren graha). Saturn – a yogakaraka and a > badhak > > planet so may have to struggle in matters relating to 9th and 10th > > houses, or results will be delayed/ in later life (?). Saturn > > exalted in house of Venus (6th) – so Saturn besides being a first > > rate benefic should destroy enemies, depending on placement? > > 7th House, karaka, Venus is superimposed on inimical Scorpio – > > reflecting difficulties in relationships/ partnerships / marriage? > > Venus exalted in house of Jupiter (11th), an upachaya house and > > therefore strong, but also house of nij dosha – inimical > > Moon owner of another upachaya house (3rd) also the house of > courage > > and siblings – Moon not friendly towards Venus so will the native > > suffer due to lack of courage or / and something to do with > > siblings? > > Sun rules the house of sukha, not that malefic for Taureans being > > ruler of Kendra, but being a krura planet will it caste a shadow on > > sukha? > > Jupiter, ruler of 8th and 11th a functional malefic – so will > > Taureans never be lucky in matters of these two houses, or is this > > good for 8th house? But Venus is exalted in the house of Jupiter > > (11th) – so are Taureans likely to enjoy gains, good earnings, > > income? > > Mars not good for relationships for Taureans (Scorpio a hidden and > > insect sign – secret liasons?) Mars also rules 12th, house of > losses > > re-inforcing its unlucky side for Taureans? But perhaps it is not a > > very bad malefic because it is also the ruler of a kendra. > > > > I have not been able to quote the Sanskrit shlokas in support of > > some of the above statements but some of these can be found in > > Chapter 34 of BPHS (Shlokas 35, 36 and 37). > > > > This is the best i could do at present to interpret Taurus lagna. > > Would like to learn more and also get feedback from other Taureans. > > > > Love, > > > > Vinita > > > > , sree nadh > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vinita ji, > > > That is why I started this Taurus Lagna discussion, > > > just like once I did in VA forum with Aries Lagna > > > discussion. Just read those discussion, and my > > > mails on Aries Lagna prediction once again, and try to > > > apply the same here for Taurus Lagna. Shouldn't we try > > > to have a better idea about the life and events in a > > > Taurus Lagna person? > > > > > > P.S.: I can only point my finger towards the Moon, it > > > is you who should follow the direction pointed to by > > > that finger and see the Moon. Osho said some thing > > > like this, I am trying to quote the idea presented by > > > him, since the same applies to the study of astrology > > > as well. Here Aries Lagna discussion was that > > > pointed finger, still only a few able to saw that > > > Moon, and so I am trying to do the same here with > > > Taurus Lagna. I really sound like a saint...yah?! > > > ) > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > --- vinita kumar <shankar_mamta@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Shreenadh, > > > > > > > > I am a learner. How can I predict? (I only make > > > > conjectures and very > > > > often off the mark). Supposing u tell us what could > > > > be predicted? > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > Vinita > > > > , > > > > sree nadh > > > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vinita ji, > > > > > ==> > > > > > Among > > > > > > > Mahapurusha yogas also Shasha yoga and Ruchaka > > > > > > yoga are not rated > > > > > > > that " fortunate " . > > > > > <== > > > > > Who are the rating authorities. > > > > > > about placement of Saturn in 6th > > > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > > > that? > > > > > > It has " good " digbala, > > > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > > > that? > > > > > > It aspects 2 upachaya houses > > > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > > > that? > > > > > > of which one is its own house > > > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > > > that? > > > > > > and one Trik sthan > > > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > > > that? > > > > > > for which it is karaka. > > > > > Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for > > > > > that? > > > > > > > > > > Dear Verna ji, > > > > > > There's a rule about Saturn, which states that > > > > it > > > > > > does good to the house it's placed > > > > > ok, the question is - What GOOD ? > > > > > > and mars the houses it aspects > > > > > ok, the question is - What GOOD ? > > > > > > (the exact reverse for Jupiter, I might add) > > > > > ok, the question is - What BAD ? > > > > > > Apply that to a fem with Sa in 6th and > > > > > > you'll see that the 8th (spouse), 12th and 3rd > > > > house > > > > > > effects are somewhat aberrated. > > > > > Oh, god! At least some indication towards > > > > prediction > > > > > is there. But is it clear?! > > > > > So the real question is WHAT PREDICTION SHOULD BE > > > > > GIVEN TO EACH COMBINATION OR POSIBILITIY WE FIND? > > > > Easy > > > > > escapes and astrological statements will not do. > > > > > > > > > P.S. : Neglecting the actual predictions that > > > > should > > > > > be given (or actual results that should be > > > > predicted), > > > > > and giving more importance to astrological > > > > statements > > > > > which are just a tool to arrive at those results, > > > > and > > > > > in essence being held up in them is one of the pit > > > > > fall into which current astrology has fallen into. > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- vernalagnia <vernalagnia@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > " vinita kumar " > > > > > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anything to do with malefics is not too good > > > > > > anyway. Among > > > > > > > Mahapurusha yogas also Shasha yoga and Ruchaka > > > > > > yoga are not rated > > > > > > > that " fortunate " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My wife's chart has a deb, retro Saturn in 7th, > > > > > > which might be an > > > > > > oblique Sasa yoga which is known to confer an > > > > old, > > > > > > vice-loving, dumb > > > > > > hubby... so astrology isn't all tosh ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What say u about placement of Saturn in 6th > > > > for > > > > > > Taureans? It > > > > > > > has " good " digbala, dosn't it? It aspects 2 > > > > > > upachaya houses of > > > > > > which one is its own house and one Trik sthan > > > > for > > > > > > which it is karaka. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a rule about Saturn, which states that > > > > it > > > > > > does good to the > > > > > > house it's placed and mars the houses it aspects > > > > > > (the exact reverse > > > > > > for Jupiter, I might add). Apply that to a fem > > > > with > > > > > > Sa in 6th and > > > > > > you'll see that the 8th (spouse), 12th and 3rd > > > > house > > > > > > effects are > > > > > > somewhat aberrated. > > > > > > > > > > > > +++ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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