Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Dear Kaul ji, Ha...Ha... agreed. By the way, I have downloaded those exes from your group, but don't have the password, and don't know how to use them as well. If you would like can you provide the password to use these files to me? you can mail it the password to: sreesog(at). But if you don't want to share the same with me, I will accept it with full regard. Love, Sreenadh , " Avtar Krishen Kaul " <jyotirved wrote: > > Shri Sreenadhji, > Namaskar! > Thank you for uploading " Patriziaji " document on this forum. > > Just a request. Please upload any and every file from that forum to > any other forum you desire just with two exceptions I) Mahesh.exe > and (II) Ganesh.exe. Anybody can download those two files after > joining the HinduCalendar forum. > Personally, however, you can share both those " exe " files with > anybody and everybody, but please just do not upload them on any > other forum! > Regards, > AKK > > , > wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > This email message is a notification to let you know that > > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the > > > group. > > > > File : /Avtar Krishnan Kaul/Patriziaji.doc > > Uploaded by : sreesog <sreesog@> > > Description : Another long article of Krishnan Kaul - this to > Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet > > > > You can access this file at the URL: > > Avtar% > 20Krishnan%20Kaul/Patriziaji.doc > > > > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: > > http://help./help/us/groups/files > > > > Regards, > > > > sreesog <sreesog@> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 Shri Sreenadhji, Namaskar! The passwords and operating methods are on the Hinducalendar forum itself! In any case, password for " Ganesh " program is Mahesh or MAHESH or mahesh. Similarly, for Mahehs program it is Ganesh or GANESH or ganesh. Just put the icons of the programs on desktop. Double click them. Ganesh and Mahesh programs are virtually same the only difference being that Mahesh will yield the planetary longitudes etc. for a particular moment that you provide it with and also include Delta Time corrections if supplied by you.The rest is a cakewalk since you have just to provide the information you are aked for. You will get the sayana as well Laahiri nirayana longitudes of the sun, moon, Mean Rahu besdies the latitude, RA and Declination of Moon and Declination and RA of the sun for any day/time from 10000 BCE to 12030 AD. Tithi, nakshatra, yoga karna, var --- five elements of Panchanga are also generated for 5-30 am IST for that day. These are also both Sayana and Lahiri nirayana. You will be able to generate even the mean longitudes of all the seven planets besides Mean Rahu as per the old Surya Sidhanta, the current Surya Sidhanta, the Aryabhati, the Sidhanta Shiromani vis-a-vis their accuray or otherwise as compared to modern astronomy, both syana and Lahiri nirayana. Thsi will provide you a practical proof as to what type of a " marvellous " astrologer Varahamihira could be who had praised the old SS as " spashtataro savitrah " . Please do take into confidence the members of your forum about the output. I am sure you will agree wit me that it is really aunique program not available anywhere else in the world! Regards AKK , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Kaul ji, > Ha...Ha... agreed. By the way, I have downloaded those exes from > your group, but don't have the password, and don't know how to use > them as well. > If you would like can you provide the password to use these files to > me? you can mail it the password to: sreesog(at). But if you > don't want to share the same with me, I will accept it with full regard. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " Avtar Krishen Kaul " > <jyotirved@> wrote: > > > > Shri Sreenadhji, > > Namaskar! > > Thank you for uploading " Patriziaji " document on this forum. > > > > Just a request. Please upload any and every file from that forum to > > any other forum you desire just with two exceptions I) Mahesh.exe > > and (II) Ganesh.exe. Anybody can download those two files after > > joining the HinduCalendar forum. > > Personally, however, you can share both those " exe " files with > > anybody and everybody, but please just do not upload them on any > > other forum! > > Regards, > > AKK > > > > , > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > This email message is a notification to let you know that > > > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the > > > > > group. > > > > > > File : /Avtar Krishnan Kaul/Patriziaji.doc > > > Uploaded by : sreesog <sreesog@> > > > Description : Another long article of Krishnan Kaul - this to > > Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet > > > > > > You can access this file at the URL: > > > Avtar% > > 20Krishnan%20Kaul/Patriziaji.doc > > > > > > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: > > > http://help./help/us/groups/files > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > sreesog <sreesog@> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 Dear Kaul ji, Congratulation for creating such a program! Thanks for providing the password info as well. ==> > Ganesh and Mahesh programs are virtually same the only difference > being that Mahesh will yield the planetary longitudes etc. > ............................ > You will get the sayana as well Laahiri nirayana longitudes of the > sun, moon, Mean Rahu besides the latitude, RA and Declination of > Moon and Declination and RA of the sun for any day/time from 10000 > BCE to 12030 AD. Tithi, nakshatra, yoga karna, var --- five > elements of Panchanga are also generated for 5-30 am IST for that > day. These are also both Sayana and Lahiri nirayana. <== GREAT! Congratulations for the hard efforts put after creating such a program! Coming to the planetary longitudes from " from 10000 BCE to 12030 AD " - What about the accuracy? When the formula is used to calculate the planetary longitude of far past or future years, the accumulated error will become so large and the out put of the program won't be accurate. Any one can see it if compare the planetary longitude results BC 2000 or so using Parasara Light and Jagannatha Hora at the same time. JH7.0 full version provides up to BC 5000 or near I think. ==> > You will be able to generate even the mean longitudes of all the > seven planets besides Mean Rahu as per the old Surya Sidhanta, the > current Surya Sidhanta, the Aryabhati, the Sidhanta Shiromani vis- > a-vis their accuray or otherwise as compared to modern astronomy, > both syana and Lahiri nirayana. <== Oh!..Oh!..Here things could go wrong. The accuracy of the program wil totally depend on our understand and interpretation of these texts.. If we commit a mistake on the same..the same will get reflected the program as well...(Since a program can not be intelligent by itself). Interpretation of Old Sury Sidhanta is a a which at many places even the original translator of this astronomical work failed to understnd...ChandraHari's works now provided me the idea that this was text of a different class for which the foundation values and the method employed would be vastly different.. Thus even if we get right or wrong values (compared to today's system) as the output of such a program; then to there could be the following pitfalls- 1) The program gives values that readily tally with the current astronomy. * Text might be right, and we might have rightly interpreted it - resulting in a right output! * Text might be wrong, and we might have wrongly interpreted it - resulting in a right output! 2) The program gives values that does not tally with the current astronomy. * Text might be right, and we might have wrongly interpreted it - resulting in a wrong output! * Text might be wrong, and we might have rightly interpreted it - resulting in a wrong output! So the point melts down to our understanding of the ancient system of astronomical mathematics. If it is right, then our interpretation of these texts would be. If not it won't be. As of " spashtataro savitrah " is concerned I feel that the statement is current because, here I have many values derived based on 'Surya Sidhanta' as provided by Chandra Hari, which tells us that the statement was to the point, and accurate. The trouble must be with the interpretation logic used - i.e. our understanding of the text. I am no expert to shed more light on the same - but may be Chandra Hari could. ==> > I am sure you will agree wit me that it is really unique program > not available anywhere else in the world! <== Yes, with pleasure! This is a unique research attitude and effort, which should definitely be appreciated. Thanks for the program, password, and also for this beautiful explanation of the use and purpose of the same. Love, Sreenadh , " Avtar Krishen Kaul " <jyotirved wrote: > > Shri Sreenadhji, > Namaskar! > The passwords and operating methods are on the Hinducalendar forum > itself! In any case, password for " Ganesh " program is Mahesh or > MAHESH or mahesh. Similarly, for Mahehs program it is Ganesh or > GANESH or ganesh. > Just put the icons of the programs on desktop. Double click them. > Ganesh and Mahesh programs are virtually same the only difference > being that Mahesh will yield the planetary longitudes etc. for a > particular moment that you provide it with and also include Delta > Time corrections if supplied by you.The rest is a cakewalk since you > have just to provide the information you are aked for. > > You will get the sayana as well Laahiri nirayana longitudes of the > sun, moon, Mean Rahu besdies the latitude, RA and Declination of > Moon and Declination and RA of the sun for any day/time from 10000 > BCE to 12030 AD. Tithi, nakshatra, yoga karna, var --- five > elements of Panchanga are also generated for 5-30 am IST for that > day. These are also both Sayana and Lahiri nirayana. You will be > able to generate even the mean longitudes of all the seven planets > besides Mean Rahu as per the old Surya Sidhanta, the current Surya > Sidhanta, the Aryabhati, the Sidhanta Shiromani vis-a-vis their > accuray or otherwise as compared to modern astronomy, both syana and > Lahiri nirayana. Thsi will provide you a practical proof as to what > type of a " marvellous " astrologer Varahamihira could be who had > praised the old SS as " spashtataro savitrah " . > > Please do take into confidence the members of your forum about the > output. > I am sure you will agree wit me that it is really aunique program > not available anywhere else in the world! > Regards > AKK > > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kaul ji, > > Ha...Ha... agreed. By the way, I have downloaded those exes > from > > your group, but don't have the password, and don't know how to use > > them as well. > > If you would like can you provide the password to use these > files to > > me? you can mail it the password to: sreesog(at). But if > you > > don't want to share the same with me, I will accept it with full > regard. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > , " Avtar Krishen > Kaul " > > <jyotirved@> wrote: > > > > > > Shri Sreenadhji, > > > Namaskar! > > > Thank you for uploading " Patriziaji " document on this forum. > > > > > > Just a request. Please upload any and every file from that > forum to > > > any other forum you desire just with two exceptions I) > Mahesh.exe > > > and (II) Ganesh.exe. Anybody can download those two files after > > > joining the HinduCalendar forum. > > > Personally, however, you can share both those " exe " files with > > > anybody and everybody, but please just do not upload them on any > > > other forum! > > > Regards, > > > AKK > > > > > > , > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > This email message is a notification to let you know that > > > > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the > > > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > File : /Avtar Krishnan Kaul/Patriziaji.doc > > > > Uploaded by : sreesog <sreesog@> > > > > Description : Another long article of Krishnan Kaul - this > to > > > Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet > > > > > > > > You can access this file at the URL: > > > > > Avtar% > > > 20Krishnan%20Kaul/Patriziaji.doc > > > > > > > > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: > > > > http://help./help/us/groups/files > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > sreesog <sreesog@> > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 Dear Sreenadh, Can you please make these files available to other members of this list? Thanks, Krishna --- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: > Dear Kaul ji, > Congratulation for creating such a program! Thanks for > providing > the password info as well. > ==> > > Ganesh and Mahesh programs are virtually same the only > difference > > being that Mahesh will yield the planetary longitudes etc. > > ............................ > > You will get the sayana as well Laahiri nirayana longitudes > of the > > sun, moon, Mean Rahu besides the latitude, RA and > Declination of > > Moon and Declination and RA of the sun for any day/time from > 10000 > > BCE to 12030 AD. Tithi, nakshatra, yoga karna, var --- > five > > elements of Panchanga are also generated for 5-30 am IST for > that > > day. These are also both Sayana and Lahiri nirayana. > <== > GREAT! Congratulations for the hard efforts put after > creating such > a program! Coming to the planetary longitudes from " from 10000 > BCE to > 12030 AD " - What about the accuracy? When the formula is used > to > calculate the planetary longitude of far past or future years, > the > accumulated error will become so large and the out put of the > program > won't be accurate. Any one can see it if compare the planetary > > longitude results BC 2000 or so using Parasara Light and > Jagannatha > Hora at the same time. JH7.0 full version provides up to BC > 5000 or > near I think. > ==> > > You will be able to generate even the mean longitudes of all > the > > seven planets besides Mean Rahu as per the old Surya > Sidhanta, the > > current Surya Sidhanta, the Aryabhati, the Sidhanta > Shiromani vis- > > a-vis their accuray or otherwise as compared to modern > astronomy, > > both syana and Lahiri nirayana. > <== > Oh!..Oh!..Here things could go wrong. The accuracy of the > program > wil totally depend on our understand and interpretation of > these > texts.. If we commit a mistake on the same..the same will get > reflected the program as well...(Since a program can not be > intelligent by itself). Interpretation of Old Sury Sidhanta is > a a > which at many places even the original translator of this > astronomical work failed to understnd...ChandraHari's works > now > provided me the idea that this was text of a different class > for > which the foundation values and the method employed would be > vastly > different.. > Thus even if we get right or wrong values (compared to > today's > system) as the output of such a program; then to there could > be the > following pitfalls- > 1) The program gives values that readily tally with the > current > astronomy. > * Text might be right, and we might have rightly > interpreted it - > resulting in a right output! > * Text might be wrong, and we might have wrongly > interpreted it - > resulting in a right output! > 2) The program gives values that does not tally with the > current > astronomy. > * Text might be right, and we might have wrongly > interpreted it - > resulting in a wrong output! > * Text might be wrong, and we might have rightly > interpreted it - > resulting in a wrong output! > > So the point melts down to our understanding of the ancient > system > of astronomical mathematics. If it is right, then our > interpretation > of these texts would be. If not it won't be. > As of " spashtataro savitrah " is concerned I feel that the > statement > is current because, here I have many values derived based on > 'Surya > Sidhanta' as provided by Chandra Hari, which tells us that the > > statement was to the point, and accurate. The trouble must be > with > the interpretation logic used - i.e. our understanding of the > text. > > I am no expert to shed more light on the same - but may be > Chandra > Hari could. > ==> > > I am sure you will agree wit me that it is really unique > program > > not available anywhere else in the world! > <== > Yes, with pleasure! This is a unique research attitude and > effort, > which should definitely be appreciated. Thanks for the > program, > password, and also for this beautiful explanation of the use > and > purpose of the same. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " Avtar > Krishen Kaul " > <jyotirved wrote: > > > > Shri Sreenadhji, > > Namaskar! > > The passwords and operating methods are on the Hinducalendar > forum > > itself! In any case, password for " Ganesh " program is > Mahesh or > > MAHESH or mahesh. Similarly, for Mahehs program it is > Ganesh or > > GANESH or ganesh. > > Just put the icons of the programs on desktop. Double click > them. > > Ganesh and Mahesh programs are virtually same the only > difference > > being that Mahesh will yield the planetary longitudes etc. > for a > > particular moment that you provide it with and also include > Delta > > Time corrections if supplied by you.The rest is a cakewalk > since > you > > have just to provide the information you are aked for. > > > > You will get the sayana as well Laahiri nirayana longitudes > of the > > sun, moon, Mean Rahu besdies the latitude, RA and > Declination of > > Moon and Declination and RA of the sun for any day/time from > 10000 > > BCE to 12030 AD. Tithi, nakshatra, yoga karna, var --- > five > > elements of Panchanga are also generated for 5-30 am IST for > that > > day. These are also both Sayana and Lahiri nirayana. You > will be > > able to generate even the mean longitudes of all the seven > planets > > besides Mean Rahu as per the old Surya Sidhanta, the current > Surya > > Sidhanta, the Aryabhati, the Sidhanta Shiromani vis-a-vis > their > > accuray or otherwise as compared to modern astronomy, both > syana > and > > Lahiri nirayana. Thsi will provide you a practical proof as > to > what > > type of a " marvellous " astrologer Varahamihira could be who > had > > praised the old SS as " spashtataro savitrah " . > > > > Please do take into confidence the members of your forum > about the > > output. > > I am sure you will agree wit me that it is really aunique > program > > not available anywhere else in the world! > > Regards > > AKK > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kaul ji, > > > Ha...Ha... agreed. By the way, I have downloaded > those exes > > from > > > your group, but don't have the password, and don't know > how to use > > > them as well. > > > If you would like can you provide the password to use > these > > files to > > > me? you can mail it the password to: sreesog(at). > But if > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. http://games./games/front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 Hi Seetharama ji, Join the " HinduCalender " and download those programs from the files section of the forum. It is that easy. The link to HinduCalender group is: HinduCalendar/ Please don't forget to express your gratitude to AKK for providing these programs to the world for free as well. Love, Sreenadh , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh, > > Can you please make these files available to other members of > this list? > > Thanks, > Krishna > > --- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: > > > Dear Kaul ji, > > Congratulation for creating such a program! Thanks for > > providing > > the password info as well. > > ==> > > > Ganesh and Mahesh programs are virtually same the only > > difference > > > being that Mahesh will yield the planetary longitudes etc. > > > ............................ > > > You will get the sayana as well Laahiri nirayana longitudes > > of the > > > sun, moon, Mean Rahu besides the latitude, RA and > > Declination of > > > Moon and Declination and RA of the sun for any day/time from > > 10000 > > > BCE to 12030 AD. Tithi, nakshatra, yoga karna, var --- > > five > > > elements of Panchanga are also generated for 5-30 am IST for > > that > > > day. These are also both Sayana and Lahiri nirayana. > > <== > > GREAT! Congratulations for the hard efforts put after > > creating such > > a program! Coming to the planetary longitudes from " from 10000 > > BCE to > > 12030 AD " - What about the accuracy? When the formula is used > > to > > calculate the planetary longitude of far past or future years, > > the > > accumulated error will become so large and the out put of the > > program > > won't be accurate. Any one can see it if compare the planetary > > > > longitude results BC 2000 or so using Parasara Light and > > Jagannatha > > Hora at the same time. JH7.0 full version provides up to BC > > 5000 or > > near I think. > > ==> > > > You will be able to generate even the mean longitudes of all > > the > > > seven planets besides Mean Rahu as per the old Surya > > Sidhanta, the > > > current Surya Sidhanta, the Aryabhati, the Sidhanta > > Shiromani vis- > > > a-vis their accuray or otherwise as compared to modern > > astronomy, > > > both syana and Lahiri nirayana. > > <== > > Oh!..Oh!..Here things could go wrong. The accuracy of the > > program > > wil totally depend on our understand and interpretation of > > these > > texts.. If we commit a mistake on the same..the same will get > > reflected the program as well...(Since a program can not be > > intelligent by itself). Interpretation of Old Sury Sidhanta is > > a a > > which at many places even the original translator of this > > astronomical work failed to understnd...ChandraHari's works > > now > > provided me the idea that this was text of a different class > > for > > which the foundation values and the method employed would be > > vastly > > different.. > > Thus even if we get right or wrong values (compared to > > today's > > system) as the output of such a program; then to there could > > be the > > following pitfalls- > > 1) The program gives values that readily tally with the > > current > > astronomy. > > * Text might be right, and we might have rightly > > interpreted it - > > resulting in a right output! > > * Text might be wrong, and we might have wrongly > > interpreted it - > > resulting in a right output! > > 2) The program gives values that does not tally with the > > current > > astronomy. > > * Text might be right, and we might have wrongly > > interpreted it - > > resulting in a wrong output! > > * Text might be wrong, and we might have rightly > > interpreted it - > > resulting in a wrong output! > > > > So the point melts down to our understanding of the ancient > > system > > of astronomical mathematics. If it is right, then our > > interpretation > > of these texts would be. If not it won't be. > > As of " spashtataro savitrah " is concerned I feel that the > > statement > > is current because, here I have many values derived based on > > 'Surya > > Sidhanta' as provided by Chandra Hari, which tells us that the > > > > statement was to the point, and accurate. The trouble must be > > with > > the interpretation logic used - i.e. our understanding of the > > text. > > > > I am no expert to shed more light on the same - but may be > > Chandra > > Hari could. > > ==> > > > I am sure you will agree wit me that it is really unique > > program > > > not available anywhere else in the world! > > <== > > Yes, with pleasure! This is a unique research attitude and > > effort, > > which should definitely be appreciated. Thanks for the > > program, > > password, and also for this beautiful explanation of the use > > and > > purpose of the same. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > , " Avtar > > Krishen Kaul " > > <jyotirved@> wrote: > > > > > > Shri Sreenadhji, > > > Namaskar! > > > The passwords and operating methods are on the Hinducalendar > > forum > > > itself! In any case, password for " Ganesh " program is > > Mahesh or > > > MAHESH or mahesh. Similarly, for Mahehs program it is > > Ganesh or > > > GANESH or ganesh. > > > Just put the icons of the programs on desktop. Double click > > them. > > > Ganesh and Mahesh programs are virtually same the only > > difference > > > being that Mahesh will yield the planetary longitudes etc. > > for a > > > particular moment that you provide it with and also include > > Delta > > > Time corrections if supplied by you.The rest is a cakewalk > > since > > you > > > have just to provide the information you are aked for. > > > > > > You will get the sayana as well Laahiri nirayana longitudes > > of the > > > sun, moon, Mean Rahu besdies the latitude, RA and > > Declination of > > > Moon and Declination and RA of the sun for any day/time from > > 10000 > > > BCE to 12030 AD. Tithi, nakshatra, yoga karna, var --- > > five > > > elements of Panchanga are also generated for 5-30 am IST for > > that > > > day. These are also both Sayana and Lahiri nirayana. You > > will be > > > able to generate even the mean longitudes of all the seven > > planets > > > besides Mean Rahu as per the old Surya Sidhanta, the current > > Surya > > > Sidhanta, the Aryabhati, the Sidhanta Shiromani vis-a-vis > > their > > > accuray or otherwise as compared to modern astronomy, both > > syana > > and > > > Lahiri nirayana. Thsi will provide you a practical proof as > > to > > what > > > type of a " marvellous " astrologer Varahamihira could be who > > had > > > praised the old SS as " spashtataro savitrah " . > > > > > > Please do take into confidence the members of your forum > > about the > > > output. > > > I am sure you will agree wit me that it is really aunique > > program > > > not available anywhere else in the world! > > > Regards > > > AKK > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kaul ji, > > > > Ha...Ha... agreed. By the way, I have downloaded > > those exes > > > from > > > > your group, but don't have the password, and don't know > > how to use > > > > them as well. > > > > If you would like can you provide the password to use > > these > > > files to > > > > me? you can mail it the password to: sreesog(at). > > But if > > > === message truncated === > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > Bored stiff? Loosen up... > Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. > http://games./games/front > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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