Fwd: RASHIS IN THE VEDAS --- FACT OR FICTION!

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WAVES-Vedic , " jyotirved " <jyotirved

wrote:

 

Dear friends,

 

Namaste!

 

The following " News item " in the Astrological Magazine of October

2006, page

904, should be of interest to all of us:

 

 

 

" Dr. P. V. Vartak, researcher in the ancient Indian sciences, was

felicitated on June 3, 2006, by Mr. Chandrakant Shewale under the

auspices

of Veda Vigyan Mandal, Pune, for his discovery of the Rashis in the

Rig

Veda " .

 

 

 

A similar " news " had appeared in the 'Express Star Teller' of

September

2006, page 12:

 

" Dr. P. V. Vartak is the founder/President of the Veda Vidnyana

Mandal,

Pune. According to Dr. Vartak, all the twelve Rasis are recorded in

the

Rigveda, the oldest literature of the world. The Rigveda also

mentions

twelve 'Figures' in the sky and twelve spokes of a wheel of time.

The names

given by the Rigveda to the signs of the Zodiac are descriptive. It

mentions Mesha, (Aries), Vrushabha (Taurus), Mithuna, Simha (Leo),

Kanya

(Virgo), Vrischika (Scorpio), Dhanus (Sagittarius), Kalasha

(Aquarius). For

the Pisces or Meena, the Rigveda uses the name 'Shyena' i.e. falcon,

the

fastest bird. Dr. Vartak states that in the sky, in the region of

Pisces,

we do see a figure made up of stars resembling the figure of a

falcon. It

is now called as 'Phoenix'. Rigveda says that the Shyena has only

one wing,

and in fact, we see only one wing to that falcon. Tula (Libra) is

called by

the name 'Anas-Ratha', because we can see a pentagon as a cart

(Ratha) and a

triangular figure, representing its harness (Anas). It is presently

called

as " Boootes', Vrischika is also called as Kumbhaka (which pricks or

stings)

or Ibha an elephant. The tail of the celestial scorpion also looks

like a

trunk of elephant. Valmiki in his Ramayana calls this

as 'Airawata', the

elephant of Lord Indra. It is described to be the eighth Sign of

zodiac,

which shows that just like today, Mesha was held as the beginning

sign at

the Vernal Equinox and its period was 25740 years BC.

 

Dr. Vartak admits that he has not found (sic!)the Karka (Cander) and

the

Makara (Capricorn) However, he says that when other ten names are

already

noted and the total number is found to be twelve, these two signs

must be

present in the Rigveda under some other names. Other researchers

should try

hard to find them out. "

 

 

 

End of news items!

 

*** ***** ***** ***** ****

***** **** *****

 

 

 

It is high time that we ask the Swedish Academy to start a " Nobel

Prize for

Vedic Jyotish " and " recommend " the names of such " researchers " and

" scholars " for the same because, after all, though our " Vedic

jyotishis "

have been practising " Vedic Rashi " based " Vedic jyotish " ever since

the

Greek invasion on India (i.e. about 4th century BCE), obviously,

they must

have been doing so in anticipation of this " discovery " by

the " modern Vedic

Seers " like Dr. Vartak! It is something like the English translator

of

Parashari saying that Brihat Parashari yields best results as per

Lahiri

Ayanamsha, which means Parashara Rishi must have recommended Lahiri

Ayanamsha more than five thousand years back in anticipation of the

birth of

" almighty Lahiri " ! Thus it is only now that our " modern Vedic

Rishis " are

discovering " Mesha etc. Rashis " in the Vedas, which should also mean

that

since as per the Vedas, the whole universe is " Maya " that is why

even

" Vedic Jyotishis " had been practising such a " Maya " of " Vedic

Jyotish " sans

Vedic Rashis just by dint of their " Maya " !

 

Why worry about the two " missing Rashis " -- after all it is just

like

turning fiction into facts, and having been " inspired " by Dr.

Vartak, some

other " modern Vedic Rishi " will stake his claim to

having " discovered "

those two Rashis also with his (or will it be her?) Tapasya!

 

With regards,

 

Avtar Krishen Kaul

 

--- End forwarded message ---

[Guest guest]

Ha... Ha... Good news! :=)

 

But still PV Vartak is a good scholar. Let us forget such

journalistic news.

 

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " Avtar Krishen Kaul "

<jyotirved wrote:

>

> WAVES-Vedic , " jyotirved " <jyotirved@>

> wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

>

> Namaste!

>

> The following " News item " in the Astrological Magazine of October

> 2006, page

> 904, should be of interest to all of us:

>

>

>

> " Dr. P. V. Vartak, researcher in the ancient Indian sciences, was

> felicitated on June 3, 2006, by Mr. Chandrakant Shewale under the

> auspices

> of Veda Vigyan Mandal, Pune, for his discovery of the Rashis in the

> Rig

> Veda " .

>

>

>

> A similar " news " had appeared in the 'Express Star Teller' of

> September

> 2006, page 12:

>

> " Dr. P. V. Vartak is the founder/President of the Veda Vidnyana

> Mandal,

> Pune. According to Dr. Vartak, all the twelve Rasis are recorded

in

> the

> Rigveda, the oldest literature of the world. The Rigveda also

> mentions

> twelve 'Figures' in the sky and twelve spokes of a wheel of time.

> The names

> given by the Rigveda to the signs of the Zodiac are descriptive. It

> mentions Mesha, (Aries), Vrushabha (Taurus), Mithuna, Simha (Leo),

> Kanya

> (Virgo), Vrischika (Scorpio), Dhanus (Sagittarius), Kalasha

> (Aquarius). For

> the Pisces or Meena, the Rigveda uses the name 'Shyena' i.e.

falcon,

> the

> fastest bird. Dr. Vartak states that in the sky, in the region of

> Pisces,

> we do see a figure made up of stars resembling the figure of a

> falcon. It

> is now called as 'Phoenix'. Rigveda says that the Shyena has only

> one wing,

> and in fact, we see only one wing to that falcon. Tula (Libra) is

> called by

> the name 'Anas-Ratha', because we can see a pentagon as a cart

> (Ratha) and a

> triangular figure, representing its harness (Anas). It is

presently

> called

> as " Boootes', Vrischika is also called as Kumbhaka (which pricks or

> stings)

> or Ibha an elephant. The tail of the celestial scorpion also looks

> like a

> trunk of elephant. Valmiki in his Ramayana calls this

> as 'Airawata', the

> elephant of Lord Indra. It is described to be the eighth Sign of

> zodiac,

> which shows that just like today, Mesha was held as the beginning

> sign at

> the Vernal Equinox and its period was 25740 years BC.

>

> Dr. Vartak admits that he has not found (sic!)the Karka (Cander)

and

> the

> Makara (Capricorn) However, he says that when other ten names are

> already

> noted and the total number is found to be twelve, these two signs

> must be

> present in the Rigveda under some other names. Other researchers

> should try

> hard to find them out. "

>

>

>

> End of news items!

>

> *** ***** ***** ***** ****

> ***** **** *****

>

>

>

> It is high time that we ask the Swedish Academy to start a " Nobel

> Prize for

> Vedic Jyotish " and " recommend " the names of such " researchers " and

> " scholars " for the same because, after all, though our " Vedic

> jyotishis "

> have been practising " Vedic Rashi " based " Vedic jyotish " ever since

> the

> Greek invasion on India (i.e. about 4th century BCE), obviously,

> they must

> have been doing so in anticipation of this " discovery " by

> the " modern Vedic

> Seers " like Dr. Vartak! It is something like the English

translator

> of

> Parashari saying that Brihat Parashari yields best results as per

> Lahiri

> Ayanamsha, which means Parashara Rishi must have recommended Lahiri

> Ayanamsha more than five thousand years back in anticipation of the

> birth of

> " almighty Lahiri " ! Thus it is only now that our " modern Vedic

> Rishis " are

> discovering " Mesha etc. Rashis " in the Vedas, which should also

mean

> that

> since as per the Vedas, the whole universe is " Maya " that is why

> even

> " Vedic Jyotishis " had been practising such a " Maya " of " Vedic

> Jyotish " sans

> Vedic Rashis just by dint of their " Maya " !

>

> Why worry about the two " missing Rashis " -- after all it is just

> like

> turning fiction into facts, and having been " inspired " by Dr.

> Vartak, some

> other " modern Vedic Rishi " will stake his claim to

> having " discovered "

> those two Rashis also with his (or will it be her?) Tapasya!

>

> With regards,

>

> Avtar Krishen Kaul

>

> --- End forwarded message ---

>

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

Namaskar!

Here is a self-eloquent copy of #No.1294 dt. 14-10-06 on WAVVES-VEDIC forum.

Regards,

AKK

WAVES-Vedic , " jyotirved " <jyotirved wrote:

 

Dear friends,

 

Namaste!

 

The following " News item " in the Astrological Magazine of October 2006, page

904, should be of interest to all of us:

 

 

 

" Dr. P. V. Vartak, researcher in the ancient Indian sciences, was

felicitated on June 3, 2006, by Mr. Chandrakant Shewale under the auspices

of Veda Vigyan Mandal, Pune, for his discovery of the Rashis in the Rig

Veda " .

 

 

 

A similar " news " had appeared in the 'Express Star Teller' of September

2006, page 12:

 

" Dr. P. V. Vartak is the founder/President of the Veda Vidnyana Mandal,

Pune. According to Dr. Vartak, all the twelve Rasis are recorded in the

Rigveda, the oldest literature of the world. The Rigveda also mentions

twelve 'Figures' in the sky and twelve spokes of a wheel of time. The names

given by the Rigveda to the signs of the Zodiac are descriptive. It

mentions Mesha, (Aries), Vrushabha (Taurus), Mithuna, Simha (Leo), Kanya

(Virgo), Vrischika (Scorpio), Dhanus (Sagittarius), Kalasha (Aquarius). For

the Pisces or Meena, the Rigveda uses the name 'Shyena' i.e. falcon, the

fastest bird. Dr. Vartak states that in the sky, in the region of Pisces,

we do see a figure made up of stars resembling the figure of a falcon. It

is now called as 'Phoenix'. Rigveda says that the Shyena has only one wing,

and in fact, we see only one wing to that falcon. Tula (Libra) is called by

the name 'Anas-Ratha', because we can see a pentagon as a cart (Ratha) and a

triangular figure, representing its harness (Anas). It is presently called

as " Boootes', Vrischika is also called as Kumbhaka (which pricks or stings)

or Ibha an elephant. The tail of the celestial scorpion also looks like a

trunk of elephant. Valmiki in his Ramayana calls this as 'Airawata', the

elephant of Lord Indra. It is described to be the eighth Sign of zodiac,

which shows that just like today, Mesha was held as the beginning sign at

the Vernal Equinox and its period was 25740 years BC.

 

Dr. Vartak admits that he has not found (sic!)the Karka (Cander) and the

Makara (Capricorn) However, he says that when other ten names are already

noted and the total number is found to be twelve, these two signs must be

present in the Rigveda under some other names. Other researchers should try

hard to find them out. "

 

 

 

End of news items!

 

*** ***** ***** ***** ****

***** **** *****

 

 

 

It is high time that we ask the Swedish Academy to start a " Nobel Prize for

Vedic Jyotish " and " recommend " the names of such " researchers " and

" scholars " for the same because, after all, though our " Vedic jyotishis "

have been practising " Vedic Rashi " based " Vedic jyotish " ever since the

Greek invasion on India (i.e. about 4th century BCE), obviously, they must

have been doing so in anticipation of this " discovery " by the " modern Vedic

Seers " like Dr. Vartak! It is something like the English translator of

Parashari saying that Brihat Parashari yields best results as per Lahiri

Ayanamsha, which means Parashara Rishi must have recommended Lahiri

Ayanamsha more than five thousand years back in anticipation of the birth of

" almighty Lahiri " ! Thus it is only now that our " modern Vedic Rishis " are

discovering " Mesha etc. Rashis " in the Vedas, which should also mean that

since as per the Vedas, the whole universe is " Maya " that is why even

" Vedic Jyotishis " had been practising such a " Maya " of " Vedic Jyotish " sans

Vedic Rashis just by dint of their " Maya " !

 

Why worry about the two " missing Rashis " -- after all it is just like

turning fiction into facts, and having been " inspired " by Dr. Vartak, some

other " modern Vedic Rishi " will stake his claim to having " discovered "

those two Rashis also with his (or will it be her?) Tapasya!

 

With regards,

 

Avtar Krishen Kaul

 

--- End forwarded message ---