The book on Birth time rectifiction - Please provide your feedback

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Dear All,

I would like to know your response about the book on " Birth time

Rectification " I have uploaded on the files section of the group.

 

Dear Pandit ji,

I have started it as an article as per your request, and now since

is a 74 page document, and so I think it could be termed book. Please

provide your valuable response about the methods discussed in the

book, and your queries or criticisms about the same; which would be

beneficial to all.

 

P.S: I was not posting much in the group these days mainly because I

was trying to complete this work. Hopefully everybody gets benefited

in a better way by this, than my mails I hope.

 

Love,

Sreenadh

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sreenadhji,

 

I have gone throught he first 25 pages or so and it is a great work. Some of the fonts did not come through. May be it is at my end of pdf reader. Will go through the rest of the document. But it is looking like a great piece of literature survey. I would also suggest to you to please copyright the same. I know jyotish knowledge is for all. But it is your work and your sweat.

 

 

What portion of the yama is called Rahu Kala. I have read opinions of the 8th yama and sometimes shani yama. Which is it ? Also same question for yama ganta. If it is in your write up just point to the page number.

Thanks

 

....

On 7/17/07, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear All, I would like to know your response about the book on " Birth timeRectification " I have uploaded on the files section of the group.Dear Pandit ji,I have started it as an article as per your request, and now since

is a 74 page document, and so I think it could be termed book. Pleaseprovide your valuable response about the methods discussed in thebook, and your queries or criticisms about the same; which would bebeneficial to all.

P.S: I was not posting much in the group these days mainly because Iwas trying to complete this work. Hopefully everybody gets benefitedin a better way by this, than my mails I hope.Love,Sreenadh

[Guest guest]

hare ramakrishna,

dear punditji .

Pranams .

People like u r real gems who is testing any priciples and as we hav lack of time your feed back is realy encouraging .Also kudos to sreenadh for trying to solve the myth of birth rectification techniqs with analylitical approach were many gaints has fallen with their clay feets.

 

thanks u all .

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

 

, Panditji <navagraha wrote:>> Namaste Sreenadhji,> > I have gone throught he first 25 pages or so and it is a great work. Some of> the fonts did not come through. May be it is at my end of pdf reader. Will> go through the rest of the document. But it is looking like a great piece of> literature survey. I would also suggest to you to please copyright the same.> I know jyotish knowledge is for all. But it is your work and your sweat.> > What portion of the yama is called Rahu Kala. I have read opinions of the> 8th yama and sometimes shani yama. Which is it ? Also same question for yama> ganta. If it is in your write up just point to the page number.> Thanks> > ...> > > On 7/17/07, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > I would like to know your response about the book on "Birth time> > Rectification" I have uploaded on the files section of the group.> >> > Dear Pandit ji,> > I have started it as an article as per your request, and now since> > is a 74 page document, and so I think it could be termed book. Please> > provide your valuable response about the methods discussed in the> > book, and your queries or criticisms about the same; which would be> > beneficial to all.> >> > P.S: I was not posting much in the group these days mainly because I> > was trying to complete this work. Hopefully everybody gets benefited> > in a better way by this, than my mails I hope.> >> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Pandit ji,

I am not much worried about copy right, since this is only a very

minor portion of the work, i plan to do. Some one can copy something,

but not all that is in store and going to be visible. The flow will

persist atleast for some more years to come.

I have already done some kmajor works such as compiling a book

similar to Prasnamarga (i.e following the same structure) but not at

all taking slokas from prasnamarga, but quoting only from the other

available works, and putting my unique (am i boasting) commentry on

the same. Similarly a compilation of anceint Rishi hora slokas (more

than 1500 in number) from the lost Rishi horas is also in place. But

both these works needs to be transilated into English; intially i have

done it in malayalam; my regional language. So no worries about such

small efforts, even if someone takes away the bits and pieces.

As you mentioned it is for all, and even if somebody copies bits of

this knowledge, i hope it would result in benefiting astrology as a

whole only.

Rahu kala

---------

As per Parasara the 8th Yama does not have a lord. But as per

Prasnamarga this Yama is assigned to Rahu. When the yamas are

distributed in the order of the same, the yama that is assigned to

Rahu will become Rahu kala. Please note that I made a mistake in the

table that shows Yama distribution on page 10 of the document. (I

noted it just now only) I will correct it and upload the document

tomarrow. In the corrected table all the yamas that would be marked by

a blank line will represent the Yama of Rahu or Rahu kala. Please

don't depend on that table till I upload the corrected document by

tomarrow. I will update the document with a line or two about Rahu

kala as well.

 

Sani's yama is known as Gulika kala or Gulika's kala vela. i have

used the words 'span of Gulika' to mention the same in the writeup.

 

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, Panditji

<navagraha wrote:

>

> Namaste Sreenadhji,

>

> I have gone throught he first 25 pages or so and it is a great work.

Some of

> the fonts did not come through. May be it is at my end of pdf

reader. Will

> go through the rest of the document. But it is looking like a great

piece of

> literature survey. I would also suggest to you to please copyright

the same.

> I know jyotish knowledge is for all. But it is your work and your sweat.

>

> What portion of the yama is called Rahu Kala. I have read opinions

of the

> 8th yama and sometimes shani yama. Which is it ? Also same question

for yama

> ganta. If it is in your write up just point to the page number.

> Thanks

>

> ...

>

>

> On 7/17/07, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> > I would like to know your response about the book on " Birth time

> > Rectification " I have uploaded on the files section of the group.

> >

> > Dear Pandit ji,

> > I have started it as an article as per your request, and now since

> > is a 74 page document, and so I think it could be termed book. Please

> > provide your valuable response about the methods discussed in the

> > book, and your queries or criticisms about the same; which would be

> > beneficial to all.

> >

> > P.S: I was not posting much in the group these days mainly because I

> > was trying to complete this work. Hopefully everybody gets benefited

> > in a better way by this, than my mails I hope.

> >

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil ji,

Thanks for the appreciation. But you know, the book i prepared

regarding the same in Malayalam (got published in kheerapadham tri

monthly of Janardana Kurup) contained two sections - One for birth

rectification, and the other for determination of sex of the native

from the Birth chart; spanning similar number of pages. The approach

was the same; just a research effort to present all the available

methods, with a critical view. Hope i can find time to translate the

same too English at a later date.

But ultimately all such efforts only help in presenting or providing

all the available methods only. Using them or verifying them with

actual data and coming to sincere and truth reflecting conclusions

with a scientific foundation lies with sincere astrologers, and

researchers of the same field.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

> hare ramakrishna,

>

> dear punditji .

>

> Pranams .

>

> People like u r real gems who is testing any priciples and as we

> hav lack of time your feed back is realy encouraging .Also kudos to

> sreenadh for trying to solve the myth of birth rectification techniqs

> with analylitical approach were many gaints has fallen with their clay

> feets.

>

>

>

> thanks u all .

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

>

>

>

>

> , Panditji

> <navagraha@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Sreenadhji,

> >

> > I have gone throught he first 25 pages or so and it is a great work.

> Some of

> > the fonts did not come through. May be it is at my end of pdf reader.

> Will

> > go through the rest of the document. But it is looking like a great

> piece of

> > literature survey. I would also suggest to you to please copyright the

> same.

> > I know jyotish knowledge is for all. But it is your work and your

> sweat.

> >

> > What portion of the yama is called Rahu Kala. I have read opinions of

> the

> > 8th yama and sometimes shani yama. Which is it ? Also same question

> for yama

> > ganta. If it is in your write up just point to the page number.

> > Thanks

> >

> > ...

> >

> >

> > On 7/17/07, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > > I would like to know your response about the book on " Birth time

> > > Rectification " I have uploaded on the files section of the group.

> > >

> > > Dear Pandit ji,

> > > I have started it as an article as per your request, and now since

> > > is a 74 page document, and so I think it could be termed book.

> Please

> > > provide your valuable response about the methods discussed in the

> > > book, and your queries or criticisms about the same; which would be

> > > beneficial to all.

> > >

> > > P.S: I was not posting much in the group these days mainly because I

> > > was trying to complete this work. Hopefully everybody gets benefited

> > > in a better way by this, than my mails I hope.

> > >

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hare ramakrishna,

dear sreenadhji,

Thanks u ,yes i read that articles in khsheera padham tri monthly ,but i missed the determination of sex of the native from the birth chart section.

As it was serialised in so many monthly issues and i am getting as book post from kerala,may be post man missed or some body took it from my mail box i dont know .

so i am eagerly looking for ur contribution in english on determination of gender-so many will get benefitted.

 

thanks u for all your efforts.

regrds sunil nair .

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

, "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> Thanks for the appreciation. But you know, the book i prepared> regarding the same in Malayalam (got published in kheerapadham tri> monthly of Janardana Kurup) contained two sections - One for birth> rectification, and the other for determination of sex of the native> from the Birth chart; spanning similar number of pages. The approach> was the same; just a research effort to present all the available> methods, with a critical view. Hope i can find time to translate the> same too English at a later date. > But ultimately all such efforts only help in presenting or providing> all the available methods only. Using them or verifying them with> actual data and coming to sincere and truth reflecting conclusions> with a scientific foundation lies with sincere astrologers, and> researchers of the same field.> Love,> Sreenadh> > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > > > hare ramakrishna,> > > > dear punditji .> > > > Pranams .> > > > People like u r real gems who is testing any priciples and as we> > hav lack of time your feed back is realy encouraging .Also kudos to> > sreenadh for trying to solve the myth of birth rectification techniqs> > with analylitical approach were many gaints has fallen with their clay> > feets.> > > > > > > > thanks u all .> > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > > > > > > , Panditji> > <navagraha@> wrote:> > >> > > Namaste Sreenadhji,> > >> > > I have gone throught he first 25 pages or so and it is a great work.> > Some of> > > the fonts did not come through. May be it is at my end of pdf reader.> > Will> > > go through the rest of the document. But it is looking like a great> > piece of> > > literature survey. I would also suggest to you to please copyright the> > same.> > > I know jyotish knowledge is for all. But it is your work and your> > sweat.> > >> > > What portion of the yama is called Rahu Kala. I have read opinions of> > the> > > 8th yama and sometimes shani yama. Which is it ? Also same question> > for yama> > > ganta. If it is in your write up just point to the page number.> > > Thanks> > >> > > ...> > >> > >> > > On 7/17/07, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear All,> > > > I would like to know your response about the book on "Birth time> > > > Rectification" I have uploaded on the files section of the group.> > > >> > > > Dear Pandit ji,> > > > I have started it as an article as per your request, and now since> > > > is a 74 page document, and so I think it could be termed book.> > Please> > > > provide your valuable response about the methods discussed in the> > > > book, and your queries or criticisms about the same; which would be> > > > beneficial to all.> > > >> > > > P.S: I was not posting much in the group these days mainly because I> > > > was trying to complete this work. Hopefully everybody gets benefited> > > > in a better way by this, than my mails I hope.> > > >> > > > Love,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Pandit ji,

I have uploaded the corrected file.

I have added a 'Contents' section, and my name as well.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Pandit ji,

> I am not much worried about copy right, since this is only a very

> minor portion of the work, i plan to do. Some one can copy something,

> but not all that is in store and going to be visible. The flow will

> persist atleast for some more years to come.

> I have already done some kmajor works such as compiling a book

> similar to Prasnamarga (i.e following the same structure) but not at

> all taking slokas from prasnamarga, but quoting only from the other

> available works, and putting my unique (am i boasting) commentry on

> the same. Similarly a compilation of anceint Rishi hora slokas (more

> than 1500 in number) from the lost Rishi horas is also in place. But

> both these works needs to be transilated into English; intially i have

> done it in malayalam; my regional language. So no worries about such

> small efforts, even if someone takes away the bits and pieces.

> As you mentioned it is for all, and even if somebody copies bits of

> this knowledge, i hope it would result in benefiting astrology as a

> whole only.

> Rahu kala

> ---------

> As per Parasara the 8th Yama does not have a lord. But as per

> Prasnamarga this Yama is assigned to Rahu. When the yamas are

> distributed in the order of the same, the yama that is assigned to

> Rahu will become Rahu kala. Please note that I made a mistake in the

> table that shows Yama distribution on page 10 of the document. (I

> noted it just now only) I will correct it and upload the document

> tomarrow. In the corrected table all the yamas that would be marked by

> a blank line will represent the Yama of Rahu or Rahu kala. Please

> don't depend on that table till I upload the corrected document by

> tomarrow. I will update the document with a line or two about Rahu

> kala as well.

>

> Sani's yama is known as Gulika kala or Gulika's kala vela. i have

> used the words 'span of Gulika' to mention the same in the writeup.

>

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , Panditji

> <navagraha@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Sreenadhji,

> >

> > I have gone throught he first 25 pages or so and it is a great work.

> Some of

> > the fonts did not come through. May be it is at my end of pdf

> reader. Will

> > go through the rest of the document. But it is looking like a great

> piece of

> > literature survey. I would also suggest to you to please copyright

> the same.

> > I know jyotish knowledge is for all. But it is your work and your

sweat.

> >

> > What portion of the yama is called Rahu Kala. I have read opinions

> of the

> > 8th yama and sometimes shani yama. Which is it ? Also same question

> for yama

> > ganta. If it is in your write up just point to the page number.

> > Thanks

> >

> > ...

> >

> >

> > On 7/17/07, Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > > I would like to know your response about the book on " Birth time

> > > Rectification " I have uploaded on the files section of the group.

> > >

> > > Dear Pandit ji,

> > > I have started it as an article as per your request, and now since

> > > is a 74 page document, and so I think it could be termed book.

Please

> > > provide your valuable response about the methods discussed in the

> > > book, and your queries or criticisms about the same; which would be

> > > beneficial to all.

> > >

> > > P.S: I was not posting much in the group these days mainly because I

> > > was trying to complete this work. Hopefully everybody gets benefited

> > > in a better way by this, than my mails I hope.

> > >

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sreenadh,

 

At the outset I would like to thank you for creating this

document for people like me who don't have expertise in Sanskrit

to understand on their own. I wish you Good Luck for all your

efforts.

 

I was following the Panchatatwa method from your earlier

document. I see some changes. In the earlier document you

mentioned that Earth-Air period will give a male child and

Water-Air period will give a female one. You even used this

logic to filter the possible time frame of birth. I don't see

this portion being carried forward in the current document. Was

this done purposely? Is it incorrect to use it the way you

elaborated in your earlier document? In the current document you

have passingly mentioned that the native would be a girl child

as the birth has taken place during aeven yama, even tatva, and

odd antara tatva. I did not understand clearly when to call a

male birth. For male birth I would like to know if all three

should be either odd or even?

 

Please do clarify.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

--- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

> Dear All,

> I would like to know your response about the book on " Birth

> time

> Rectification " I have uploaded on the files section of the

> group.

>

> Dear Pandit ji,

> I have started it as an article as per your request, and now

> since

> is a 74 page document, and so I think it could be termed book.

> Please

> provide your valuable response about the methods discussed in

> the

> book, and your queries or criticisms about the same; which

> would be

> beneficial to all.

>

> P.S: I was not posting much in the group these days mainly

> because I

> was trying to complete this work. Hopefully everybody gets

> benefited

> in a better way by this, than my mails I hope.

>

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Seetharama ji,

The idea mention in the previous document is right, and there is no

change in it. In the current document I just removed that portion;

since document deals with BT rectification methods, and not Gender

determination methods. But as you rightly mentioned, both these are a

bit related to each other, since the gender determination from given

BT and its verification (whether the child is male or female), can

help selecting the suitable one out of the possible birth times. The

astrologer doing BT rectification is usually in the dilemma - whether

to select the possible birth time BEFORE the given BT or to select

the possible birth time AFTER the given BT. Birth time based, Gender

determination methods can be of good help in such situations.

Therefore I too feel that the discussion of Gender determination

from Birth Time and Natal chart should be part of a document

discussing BT rectification. Actually in this document also it was

so - but the same was the second similar sized portion of the text.

Later I will try to translate that portion as well and will try to

couple both a single book; as done before.

Also remember that using Pancha tatva method for Gender

determination is just 'one of the methods' among the various methods

available to accomplish the same from given BT. There are many method

available for Gender determination from Natal chart as well.

 

==>

> I did not understand clearly when to call a

> male birth. For male birth I would like to know if all three

> should be either odd or even?

<==

While using Pancha tatva method Gender determination from BT, as

usual, considering Yama-Tatva-Antara tatva sequence-

Odd-Odd-Odd => Male

Even-Even-Even => Female

Odd-Odd-Even => Male

Even-Even-Odd => Female etc

 

would be the possible combinations. But as you could see, 'Air' is

always (considering the sequence " Earth-Water-Fire-Air-Sky " ). As per

theory, the rise of either Air tatva or Air Antara tatva is a must

for any birth to take place. Thus for sure out of the 3 determinants

we have one of them, i.e. Air, is even (female) for sure and we are

left with the other two choices.

If both of them are Odd, i.e. Odd Yama and Odd Tatva or Antara

tatva then it would be a male birth. If both of them are Even, i.e.

Even Yama and Even Tatva or Antara tatva, then it would be a female

birth. But what if one of them (Eg. Yama) is odd and Tatva is even

(Eg:Water)? In such situation you can not depend much on Pancha tatva

method alone for gender determination from BT. But still you can

safely conclude that the chance of a female birth is high. (Air being

even and thus female).

 

Odd Yamas = 1,3,5,7 Yamas

Even Yamas = 2,4,6,8 Yamas

 

Odd Tatvas = Earth, Fire, Sky

Even Tatvas = Water, Air

 

Note: Air, the female component is present there in every birth. The

male component usually needs to take an extra effort to make its

presents happen! (by an Odd-Odd-Air combination). Even though it may

seem that the Odd tatvas have an upper hand (3:2) they don't; and it

is the Female who controls!

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, Krishnamurthy

Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh,

>

> At the outset I would like to thank you for creating this

> document for people like me who don't have expertise in Sanskrit

> to understand on their own. I wish you Good Luck for all your

> efforts.

>

> I was following the Panchatatwa method from your earlier

> document. I see some changes. In the earlier document you

> mentioned that Earth-Air period will give a male child and

> Water-Air period will give a female one. You even used this

> logic to filter the possible time frame of birth. I don't see

> this portion being carried forward in the current document. Was

> this done purposely? Is it incorrect to use it the way you

> elaborated in your earlier document? In the current document you

> have passingly mentioned that the native would be a girl child

> as the birth has taken place during aeven yama, even tatva, and

> odd antara tatva. I did not understand clearly when to call a

> male birth. For male birth I would like to know if all three

> should be either odd or even?

>

> Please do clarify.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

> --- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

>

> > Dear All,

> > I would like to know your response about the book on " Birth

> > time

> > Rectification " I have uploaded on the files section of the

> > group.

> >

> > Dear Pandit ji,

> > I have started it as an article as per your request, and now

> > since

> > is a 74 page document, and so I think it could be termed book.

> > Please

> > provide your valuable response about the methods discussed in

> > the

> > book, and your queries or criticisms about the same; which

> > would be

> > beneficial to all.

> >

> > P.S: I was not posting much in the group these days mainly

> > because I

> > was trying to complete this work. Hopefully everybody gets

> > benefited

> > in a better way by this, than my mails I hope.

> >

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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______________

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sreenadh,

 

Please drop 'ji'. You call me 'Krishna'.

 

Thanks for the clarifications. Agreed that the panch atatwa

method is one of the methods to check the sex of the child. The

question is, is it reliable enough to be a good candidate for BT

rectification process?

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

> Dear Seetharama ji,

> The idea mention in the previous document is right, and there

> is no

> change in it. In the current document I just removed that

> portion;

> since document deals with BT rectification methods, and not

> Gender

> determination methods. But as you rightly mentioned, both

> these are a

> bit related to each other, since the gender determination from

> given

> BT and its verification (whether the child is male or

> female), can

> help selecting the suitable one out of the possible birth

> times. The

> astrologer doing BT rectification is usually in the dilemma -

> whether

> to select the possible birth time BEFORE the given BT or to

> select

> the possible birth time AFTER the given BT. Birth time based,

> Gender

> determination methods can be of good help in such situations.

> Therefore I too feel that the discussion of Gender

> determination

> from Birth Time and Natal chart should be part of a document

> discussing BT rectification. Actually in this document also it

> was

> so - but the same was the second similar sized portion of the

> text.

> Later I will try to translate that portion as well and will

> try to

> couple both a single book; as done before.

> Also remember that using Pancha tatva method for Gender

> determination is just 'one of the methods' among the various

> methods

> available to accomplish the same from given BT. There are many

> method

> available for Gender determination from Natal chart as well.

>

> ==>

> > I did not understand clearly when to call a

> > male birth. For male birth I would like to know if all three

> > should be either odd or even?

> <==

> While using Pancha tatva method Gender determination from BT,

> as

> usual, considering Yama-Tatva-Antara tatva sequence-

> Odd-Odd-Odd => Male

> Even-Even-Even => Female

> Odd-Odd-Even => Male

> Even-Even-Odd => Female etc

>

> would be the possible combinations. But as you could see,

> 'Air' is

> always (considering the sequence " Earth-Water-Fire-Air-Sky " ).

> As per

> theory, the rise of either Air tatva or Air Antara tatva is a

> must

> for any birth to take place. Thus for sure out of the 3

> determinants

> we have one of them, i.e. Air, is even (female) for sure and

> we are

> left with the other two choices.

> If both of them are Odd, i.e. Odd Yama and Odd Tatva or

> Antara

> tatva then it would be a male birth. If both of them are Even,

> i.e.

> Even Yama and Even Tatva or Antara tatva, then it would be a

> female

> birth. But what if one of them (Eg. Yama) is odd and Tatva is

> even

> (Eg:Water)? In such situation you can not depend much on

> Pancha tatva

> method alone for gender determination from BT. But still you

> can

> safely conclude that the chance of a female birth is high.

> (Air being

> even and thus female).

>

> Odd Yamas = 1,3,5,7 Yamas

> Even Yamas = 2,4,6,8 Yamas

>

> Odd Tatvas = Earth, Fire, Sky

> Even Tatvas = Water, Air

>

> Note: Air, the female component is present there in every

> birth. The

> male component usually needs to take an extra effort to make

> its

> presents happen! (by an Odd-Odd-Air combination). Even though

> it may

> seem that the Odd tatvas have an upper hand (3:2) they don't;

> and it

> is the Female who controls!

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , Krishnamurthy

>

> Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreenadh,

> >

> > At the outset I would like to thank you for creating this

> > document for people like me who don't have expertise in

> Sanskrit

> > to understand on their own. I wish you Good Luck for all

> your

> > efforts.

> >

> > I was following the Panchatatwa method from your earlier

> > document. I see some changes. In the earlier document you

> > mentioned that Earth-Air period will give a male child and

> > Water-Air period will give a female one. You even used this

> > logic to filter the possible time frame of birth. I don't

> see

> > this portion being carried forward in the current document.

> Was

> > this done purposely? Is it incorrect to use it the way you

> > elaborated in your earlier document? In the current document

> you

> > have passingly mentioned that the native would be a girl

> child

> > as the birth has taken place during aeven yama, even tatva,

> and

> > odd antara tatva. I did not understand clearly when to call

> a

> > male birth. For male birth I would like to know if all three

> > should be either odd or even?

> >

> > Please do clarify.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> >

> > --- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> >

> > > Dear All,

> > > I would like to know your response about the book on

> " Birth

> > > time

> > > Rectification " I have uploaded on the files section of the

> > > group.

> > >

> > > Dear Pandit ji,

> > > I have started it as an article as per your request, and

> now

> > > since

> > > is a 74 page document, and so I think it could be termed

> book.

> > > Please

> > > provide your valuable response about the methods discussed

> in

> > > the

> > > book, and your queries or criticisms about the same; which

> > > would be

> > > beneficial to all.

> > >

> > > P.S: I was not posting much in the group these days mainly

> > > because I

> > > was trying to complete this work. Hopefully everybody gets

> > > benefited

> > > in a better way by this, than my mails I hope.

> > >

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Krishna,

Test it. (But how!) The only thing I know is that it is a

method used by many astrologers in Kerala and Tamilnadu. Lacking the

authentic quote (yes, Uttara kalamrita supports this to an extend),

and lacking the scientific understanding about the rhythm and

duration differences of delivery, I can't confirm anything of that

sort.

I was just presenting the available methods in an easy to

understand manner - rest up to you.

Lacking the prime criteria - who am I to say, it is reliable or not;

or that it is scientifically valid or not etc?

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, Krishnamurthy

Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh,

>

> Please drop 'ji'. You call me 'Krishna'.

>

> Thanks for the clarifications. Agreed that the panch atatwa

> method is one of the methods to check the sex of the child. The

> question is, is it reliable enough to be a good candidate for BT

> rectification process?

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

>

> > Dear Seetharama ji,

> > The idea mention in the previous document is right, and there

> > is no

> > change in it. In the current document I just removed that

> > portion;

> > since document deals with BT rectification methods, and not

> > Gender

> > determination methods. But as you rightly mentioned, both

> > these are a

> > bit related to each other, since the gender determination from

> > given

> > BT and its verification (whether the child is male or

> > female), can

> > help selecting the suitable one out of the possible birth

> > times. The

> > astrologer doing BT rectification is usually in the dilemma -

> > whether

> > to select the possible birth time BEFORE the given BT or to

> > select

> > the possible birth time AFTER the given BT. Birth time based,

> > Gender

> > determination methods can be of good help in such situations.

> > Therefore I too feel that the discussion of Gender

> > determination

> > from Birth Time and Natal chart should be part of a document

> > discussing BT rectification. Actually in this document also it

> > was

> > so - but the same was the second similar sized portion of the

> > text.

> > Later I will try to translate that portion as well and will

> > try to

> > couple both a single book; as done before.

> > Also remember that using Pancha tatva method for Gender

> > determination is just 'one of the methods' among the various

> > methods

> > available to accomplish the same from given BT. There are many

> > method

> > available for Gender determination from Natal chart as well.

> >

> > ==>

> > > I did not understand clearly when to call a

> > > male birth. For male birth I would like to know if all three

> > > should be either odd or even?

> > <==

> > While using Pancha tatva method Gender determination from BT,

> > as

> > usual, considering Yama-Tatva-Antara tatva sequence-

> > Odd-Odd-Odd => Male

> > Even-Even-Even => Female

> > Odd-Odd-Even => Male

> > Even-Even-Odd => Female etc

> >

> > would be the possible combinations. But as you could see,

> > 'Air' is

> > always (considering the sequence " Earth-Water-Fire-Air-Sky " ).

> > As per

> > theory, the rise of either Air tatva or Air Antara tatva is a

> > must

> > for any birth to take place. Thus for sure out of the 3

> > determinants

> > we have one of them, i.e. Air, is even (female) for sure and

> > we are

> > left with the other two choices.

> > If both of them are Odd, i.e. Odd Yama and Odd Tatva or

> > Antara

> > tatva then it would be a male birth. If both of them are Even,

> > i.e.

> > Even Yama and Even Tatva or Antara tatva, then it would be a

> > female

> > birth. But what if one of them (Eg. Yama) is odd and Tatva is

> > even

> > (Eg:Water)? In such situation you can not depend much on

> > Pancha tatva

> > method alone for gender determination from BT. But still you

> > can

> > safely conclude that the chance of a female birth is high.

> > (Air being

> > even and thus female).

> >

> > Odd Yamas = 1,3,5,7 Yamas

> > Even Yamas = 2,4,6,8 Yamas

> >

> > Odd Tatvas = Earth, Fire, Sky

> > Even Tatvas = Water, Air

> >

> > Note: Air, the female component is present there in every

> > birth. The

> > male component usually needs to take an extra effort to make

> > its

> > presents happen! (by an Odd-Odd-Air combination). Even though

> > it may

> > seem that the Odd tatvas have an upper hand (3:2) they don't;

> > and it

> > is the Female who controls!

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , Krishnamurthy

> >

> > Seetharama <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > >

> > > At the outset I would like to thank you for creating this

> > > document for people like me who don't have expertise in

> > Sanskrit

> > > to understand on their own. I wish you Good Luck for all

> > your

> > > efforts.

> > >

> > > I was following the Panchatatwa method from your earlier

> > > document. I see some changes. In the earlier document you

> > > mentioned that Earth-Air period will give a male child and

> > > Water-Air period will give a female one. You even used this

> > > logic to filter the possible time frame of birth. I don't

> > see

> > > this portion being carried forward in the current document.

> > Was

> > > this done purposely? Is it incorrect to use it the way you

> > > elaborated in your earlier document? In the current document

> > you

> > > have passingly mentioned that the native would be a girl

> > child

> > > as the birth has taken place during aeven yama, even tatva,

> > and

> > > odd antara tatva. I did not understand clearly when to call

> > a

> > > male birth. For male birth I would like to know if all three

> > > should be either odd or even?

> > >

> > > Please do clarify.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > >

> > > --- Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > > I would like to know your response about the book on

> > " Birth

> > > > time

> > > > Rectification " I have uploaded on the files section of the

> > > > group.

> > > >

> > > > Dear Pandit ji,

> > > > I have started it as an article as per your request, and

> > now

> > > > since

> > > > is a 74 page document, and so I think it could be termed

> > book.

> > > > Please

> > > > provide your valuable response about the methods discussed

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > book, and your queries or criticisms about the same; which

> > > > would be

> > > > beneficial to all.

> > > >

> > > > P.S: I was not posting much in the group these days mainly

> > > > because I

> > > > was trying to complete this work. Hopefully everybody gets

> > > > benefited

> > > > in a better way by this, than my mails I hope.

> > > >

> > > > Love,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

____________________

> > ______________

> > > Get your own web address.

> > > Have a HUGE year through Small Business.

> > > http://smallbusiness./domains/?p=BESTDEAL

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Sreendadh,

 

Yep. How to test is a big question. It is like a chicken and egg

situation. You need correct birth time to test this methodology

and at the same time this methodology is supposed help us to

arrive at correct birth time!

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

--- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

> Dear Krishna,

> Test it. (But how!) The only thing I know is that it

> is a

> method used by many astrologers in Kerala and Tamilnadu.

> Lacking the

> authentic quote (yes, Uttara kalamrita supports this to an

> extend),

> and lacking the scientific understanding about the rhythm and

> duration differences of delivery, I can't confirm anything of

> that

> sort.

> I was just presenting the available methods in an easy to

> understand manner - rest up to you.

> Lacking the prime criteria - who am I to say, it is reliable

> or not;

> or that it is scientifically valid or not etc?

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , Krishnamurthy

>

> Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreenadh,

> >

> > Please drop 'ji'. You call me 'Krishna'.

> >

> > Thanks for the clarifications. Agreed that the panch atatwa

> > method is one of the methods to check the sex of the child.

> The

> > question is, is it reliable enough to be a good candidate

> for BT

> > rectification process?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> > --- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Seetharama ji,

> > > The idea mention in the previous document is right, and

> there

> > > is no

> > > change in it. In the current document I just removed that

> > > portion;

> > > since document deals with BT rectification methods, and

> not

> > > Gender

> > > determination methods. But as you rightly mentioned, both

> > > these are a

> > > bit related to each other, since the gender determination

> from

> > > given

> > > BT and its verification (whether the child is male or

> > > female), can

> > > help selecting the suitable one out of the possible birth

> > > times. The

> > > astrologer doing BT rectification is usually in the

> dilemma -

> > > whether

> > > to select the possible birth time BEFORE the given BT or

> to

> > > select

> > > the possible birth time AFTER the given BT. Birth time

> based,

> > > Gender

> > > determination methods can be of good help in such

> situations.

> > > Therefore I too feel that the discussion of Gender

> > > determination

> > > from Birth Time and Natal chart should be part of a

> document

> > > discussing BT rectification. Actually in this document

> also it

> > > was

> > > so - but the same was the second similar sized portion of

> the

> > > text.

> > > Later I will try to translate that portion as well and

> will

> > > try to

> > > couple both a single book; as done before.

> > > Also remember that using Pancha tatva method for Gender

>

> > > determination is just 'one of the methods' among the

> various

> > > methods

> > > available to accomplish the same from given BT. There are

> many

> > > method

> > > available for Gender determination from Natal chart as

> well.

> > >

> > > ==>

> > > > I did not understand clearly when to call a

> > > > male birth. For male birth I would like to know if all

> three

> > > > should be either odd or even?

> > > <==

> > > While using Pancha tatva method Gender determination from

> BT,

> > > as

> > > usual, considering Yama-Tatva-Antara tatva sequence-

> > > Odd-Odd-Odd => Male

> > > Even-Even-Even => Female

> > > Odd-Odd-Even => Male

> > > Even-Even-Odd => Female etc

> > >

> > > would be the possible combinations. But as you could see,

> > > 'Air' is

> > > always (considering the sequence

> " Earth-Water-Fire-Air-Sky " ).

> > > As per

> > > theory, the rise of either Air tatva or Air Antara tatva

> is a

> > > must

> > > for any birth to take place. Thus for sure out of the 3

> > > determinants

> > > we have one of them, i.e. Air, is even (female) for sure

> and

> > > we are

> > > left with the other two choices.

> > > If both of them are Odd, i.e. Odd Yama and Odd Tatva or

> > > Antara

> > > tatva then it would be a male birth. If both of them are

> Even,

> > > i.e.

> > > Even Yama and Even Tatva or Antara tatva, then it would be

> a

> > > female

> > > birth. But what if one of them (Eg. Yama) is odd and Tatva

> is

> > > even

> > > (Eg:Water)? In such situation you can not depend much on

> > > Pancha tatva

> > > method alone for gender determination from BT. But still

> you

> > > can

> > > safely conclude that the chance of a female birth is high.

> > > (Air being

> > > even and thus female).

> > >

> > > Odd Yamas = 1,3,5,7 Yamas

> > > Even Yamas = 2,4,6,8 Yamas

> > >

> > > Odd Tatvas = Earth, Fire, Sky

> > > Even Tatvas = Water, Air

> > >

> > > Note: Air, the female component is present there in every

> > > birth. The

> > > male component usually needs to take an extra effort to

> make

> > > its

> > > presents happen! (by an Odd-Odd-Air combination). Even

> though

> > > it may

> > > seem that the Odd tatvas have an upper hand (3:2) they

> don't;

> > > and it

> > > is the Female who controls!

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > > ,

> Krishnamurthy

> > >

> > > Seetharama <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > > >

> > > > At the outset I would like to thank you for creating

> this

> > > > document for people like me who don't have expertise in

> > > Sanskrit

> > > > to understand on their own. I wish you Good Luck for all

> > > your

> > > > efforts.

> > > >

> > > > I was following the Panchatatwa method from your earlier

> > > > document. I see some changes. In the earlier document

> you

> > > > mentioned that Earth-Air period will give a male child

> and

> > > > Water-Air period will give a female one. You even used

> this

> > > > logic to filter the possible time frame of birth. I

> don't

> > > see

> > > > this portion being carried forward in the current

> document.

> > > Was

> > > > this done purposely? Is it incorrect to use it the way

> you

> > > > elaborated in your earlier document? In the current

> document

> > > you

> > > > have passingly mentioned that the native would be a girl

> > > child

> > > > as the birth has taken place during aeven yama, even

> tatva,

> > > and

>

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Well said!

 

, Krishnamurthy

Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Sreendadh,

>

> Yep. How to test is a big question. It is like a chicken and egg

> situation. You need correct birth time to test this methodology

> and at the same time this methodology is supposed help us to

> arrive at correct birth time!

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

> --- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

>

> > Dear Krishna,

> > Test it. (But how!) The only thing I know is that it

> > is a

> > method used by many astrologers in Kerala and Tamilnadu.

> > Lacking the

> > authentic quote (yes, Uttara kalamrita supports this to an

> > extend),

> > and lacking the scientific understanding about the rhythm and

> > duration differences of delivery, I can't confirm anything of

> > that

> > sort.

> > I was just presenting the available methods in an easy to

> > understand manner - rest up to you.

> > Lacking the prime criteria - who am I to say, it is reliable

> > or not;

> > or that it is scientifically valid or not etc?

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , Krishnamurthy

> >

> > Seetharama <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > >

> > > Please drop 'ji'. You call me 'Krishna'.

> > >

> > > Thanks for the clarifications. Agreed that the panch atatwa

> > > method is one of the methods to check the sex of the child.

> > The

> > > question is, is it reliable enough to be a good candidate

> > for BT

> > > rectification process?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > > --- Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Seetharama ji,

> > > > The idea mention in the previous document is right, and

> > there

> > > > is no

> > > > change in it. In the current document I just removed that

> > > > portion;

> > > > since document deals with BT rectification methods, and

> > not

> > > > Gender

> > > > determination methods. But as you rightly mentioned, both

> > > > these are a

> > > > bit related to each other, since the gender determination

> > from

> > > > given

> > > > BT and its verification (whether the child is male or

> > > > female), can

> > > > help selecting the suitable one out of the possible birth

> > > > times. The

> > > > astrologer doing BT rectification is usually in the

> > dilemma -

> > > > whether

> > > > to select the possible birth time BEFORE the given BT or

> > to

> > > > select

> > > > the possible birth time AFTER the given BT. Birth time

> > based,

> > > > Gender

> > > > determination methods can be of good help in such

> > situations.

> > > > Therefore I too feel that the discussion of Gender

> > > > determination

> > > > from Birth Time and Natal chart should be part of a

> > document

> > > > discussing BT rectification. Actually in this document

> > also it

> > > > was

> > > > so - but the same was the second similar sized portion of

> > the

> > > > text.

> > > > Later I will try to translate that portion as well and

> > will

> > > > try to

> > > > couple both a single book; as done before.

> > > > Also remember that using Pancha tatva method for Gender

> >

> > > > determination is just 'one of the methods' among the

> > various

> > > > methods

> > > > available to accomplish the same from given BT. There are

> > many

> > > > method

> > > > available for Gender determination from Natal chart as

> > well.

> > > >

> > > > ==>

> > > > > I did not understand clearly when to call a

> > > > > male birth. For male birth I would like to know if all

> > three

> > > > > should be either odd or even?

> > > > <==

> > > > While using Pancha tatva method Gender determination from

> > BT,

> > > > as

> > > > usual, considering Yama-Tatva-Antara tatva sequence-

> > > > Odd-Odd-Odd => Male

> > > > Even-Even-Even => Female

> > > > Odd-Odd-Even => Male

> > > > Even-Even-Odd => Female etc

> > > >

> > > > would be the possible combinations. But as you could see,

> > > > 'Air' is

> > > > always (considering the sequence

> > " Earth-Water-Fire-Air-Sky " ).

> > > > As per

> > > > theory, the rise of either Air tatva or Air Antara tatva

> > is a

> > > > must

> > > > for any birth to take place. Thus for sure out of the 3

> > > > determinants

> > > > we have one of them, i.e. Air, is even (female) for sure

> > and

> > > > we are

> > > > left with the other two choices.

> > > > If both of them are Odd, i.e. Odd Yama and Odd Tatva or

> > > > Antara

> > > > tatva then it would be a male birth. If both of them are

> > Even,

> > > > i.e.

> > > > Even Yama and Even Tatva or Antara tatva, then it would be

> > a

> > > > female

> > > > birth. But what if one of them (Eg. Yama) is odd and Tatva

> > is

> > > > even

> > > > (Eg:Water)? In such situation you can not depend much on

> > > > Pancha tatva

> > > > method alone for gender determination from BT. But still

> > you

> > > > can

> > > > safely conclude that the chance of a female birth is high.

> > > > (Air being

> > > > even and thus female).

> > > >

> > > > Odd Yamas = 1,3,5,7 Yamas

> > > > Even Yamas = 2,4,6,8 Yamas

> > > >

> > > > Odd Tatvas = Earth, Fire, Sky

> > > > Even Tatvas = Water, Air

> > > >

> > > > Note: Air, the female component is present there in every

> > > > birth. The

> > > > male component usually needs to take an extra effort to

> > make

> > > > its

> > > > presents happen! (by an Odd-Odd-Air combination). Even

> > though

> > > > it may

> > > > seem that the Odd tatvas have an upper hand (3:2) they

> > don't;

> > > > and it

> > > > is the Female who controls!

> > > > Love,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > Krishnamurthy

> > > >

> > > > Seetharama <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > > > >

> > > > > At the outset I would like to thank you for creating

> > this

> > > > > document for people like me who don't have expertise in

> > > > Sanskrit

> > > > > to understand on their own. I wish you Good Luck for all

> > > > your

> > > > > efforts.

> > > > >

> > > > > I was following the Panchatatwa method from your earlier

> > > > > document. I see some changes. In the earlier document

> > you

> > > > > mentioned that Earth-Air period will give a male child

> > and

> > > > > Water-Air period will give a female one. You even used

> > this

> > > > > logic to filter the possible time frame of birth. I

> > don't

> > > > see

> > > > > this portion being carried forward in the current

> > document.

> > > > Was

> > > > > this done purposely? Is it incorrect to use it the way

> > you

> > > > > elaborated in your earlier document? In the current

> > document

> > > > you

> > > > > have passingly mentioned that the native would be a girl

> > > > child

> > > > > as the birth has taken place during aeven yama, even

> > tatva,

> > > > and

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

>

>

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Thanks Sreenadh,

 

I think the Rahu kala is 1.5 hours after sunrise on Monday. Now if yamas rise in order of weekdays then second yama on monday will be that of mangal. Please clarify, I may be wrong in assuming that rahu kaal on manday will be the second yama.

 

 

....

On 7/17/07, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Pandit ji,I am not much worried about copy right, since this is only a veryminor portion of the work, i plan to do. Some one can copy something,but not all that is in store and going to be visible. The flow will

persist atleast for some more years to come. :)I have already done some kmajor works such as compiling a booksimilar to Prasnamarga (i.e following the same structure) but not atall taking slokas from prasnamarga, but quoting only from the other

available works, and putting my unique (am i boasting) commentry onthe same. Similarly a compilation of anceint Rishi hora slokas (morethan 1500 in number) from the lost Rishi horas is also in place. Butboth these works needs to be transilated into English; intially i have

done it in malayalam; my regional language. So no worries about suchsmall efforts, even if someone takes away the bits and pieces. :)As you mentioned it is for all, and even if somebody copies bits ofthis knowledge, i hope it would result in benefiting astrology as a

whole only. Rahu kala---------As per Parasara the 8th Yama does not have a lord. But as perPrasnamarga this Yama is assigned to Rahu. When the yamas are distributed in the order of the same, the yama that is assigned to

Rahu will become Rahu kala. Please note that I made a mistake in thetable that shows Yama distribution on page 10 of the document. (Inoted it just now only) I will correct it and upload the documenttomarrow. In the corrected table all the yamas that would be marked by

a blank line will represent the Yama of Rahu or Rahu kala. Pleasedon't depend on that table till I upload the corrected document bytomarrow. I will update the document with a line or two about Rahukala as well.

Sani's yama is known as Gulika kala or Gulika's kala vela. i haveused the words 'span of Gulika' to mention the same in the writeup. Love,Sreenadh

, Panditji<navagraha wrote:>> Namaste Sreenadhji,> > I have gone throught he first 25 pages or so and it is a great work.

Some of> the fonts did not come through. May be it is at my end of pdfreader. Will> go through the rest of the document. But it is looking like a greatpiece of> literature survey. I would also suggest to you to please copyright

the same.> I know jyotish knowledge is for all. But it is your work and your sweat.> > What portion of the yama is called Rahu Kala. I have read opinionsof the> 8th yama and sometimes shani yama. Which is it ? Also same question

for yama> ganta. If it is in your write up just point to the page number.> Thanks> > ...> > > On 7/17/07, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> >> > Dear All,> > I would like to know your response about the book on " Birth time> > Rectification " I have uploaded on the files section of the group.> >> > Dear Pandit ji,

> > I have started it as an article as per your request, and now since> > is a 74 page document, and so I think it could be termed book. Please> > provide your valuable response about the methods discussed in the

> > book, and your queries or criticisms about the same; which would be> > beneficial to all.> >> > P.S: I was not posting much in the group these days mainly because I> > was trying to complete this work. Hopefully everybody gets benefited

> > in a better way by this, than my mails I hope.> >> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> >> > > >>

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Dear Pandit ji,

Did I made a mistake again? Let me check. I will get back.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, Panditji

<navagraha wrote:

>

> Thanks Sreenadh,

>

> I think the Rahu kala is 1.5 hours after sunrise on Monday. Now if

yamas

> rise in order of weekdays then second yama on monday will be that

of mangal.

> Please clarify, I may be wrong in assuming that rahu kaal on manday

will be

> the second yama.

>

> ...

>

>

> On 7/17/07, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pandit ji,

> > I am not much worried about copy right, since this is only a very

> > minor portion of the work, i plan to do. Some one can copy

something,

> > but not all that is in store and going to be visible. The flow

will

> > persist atleast for some more years to come.

> > I have already done some kmajor works such as compiling a book

> > similar to Prasnamarga (i.e following the same structure) but not

at

> > all taking slokas from prasnamarga, but quoting only from the

other

> > available works, and putting my unique (am i boasting) commentry

on

> > the same. Similarly a compilation of anceint Rishi hora slokas

(more

> > than 1500 in number) from the lost Rishi horas is also in place.

But

> > both these works needs to be transilated into English; intially i

have

> > done it in malayalam; my regional language. So no worries about

such

> > small efforts, even if someone takes away the bits and pieces.

> > As you mentioned it is for all, and even if somebody copies bits

of

> > this knowledge, i hope it would result in benefiting astrology as

a

> > whole only.

> > Rahu kala

> > ---------

> > As per Parasara the 8th Yama does not have a lord. But as per

> > Prasnamarga this Yama is assigned to Rahu. When the yamas are

> > distributed in the order of the same, the yama that is assigned to

> > Rahu will become Rahu kala. Please note that I made a mistake in

the

> > table that shows Yama distribution on page 10 of the document. (I

> > noted it just now only) I will correct it and upload the document

> > tomarrow. In the corrected table all the yamas that would be

marked by

> > a blank line will represent the Yama of Rahu or Rahu kala. Please

> > don't depend on that table till I upload the corrected document by

> > tomarrow. I will update the document with a line or two about Rahu

> > kala as well.

> >

> > Sani's yama is known as Gulika kala or Gulika's kala vela. i have

> > used the words 'span of Gulika' to mention the same in the

writeup.

> >

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > --- In

<%

40>,

> > Panditji

> > <navagraha@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Sreenadhji,

> > >

> > > I have gone throught he first 25 pages or so and it is a great

work.

> > Some of

> > > the fonts did not come through. May be it is at my end of pdf

> > reader. Will

> > > go through the rest of the document. But it is looking like a

great

> > piece of

> > > literature survey. I would also suggest to you to please

copyright

> > the same.

> > > I know jyotish knowledge is for all. But it is your work and

your sweat.

> > >

> > > What portion of the yama is called Rahu Kala. I have read

opinions

> > of the

> > > 8th yama and sometimes shani yama. Which is it ? Also same

question

> > for yama

> > > ganta. If it is in your write up just point to the page number.

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> > >

> > > On 7/17/07, Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > > I would like to know your response about the book on " Birth

time

> > > > Rectification " I have uploaded on the files section of the

group.

> > > >

> > > > Dear Pandit ji,

> > > > I have started it as an article as per your request, and now

since

> > > > is a 74 page document, and so I think it could be termed

book. Please

> > > > provide your valuable response about the methods discussed in

the

> > > > book, and your queries or criticisms about the same; which

would be

> > > > beneficial to all.

> > > >

> > > > P.S: I was not posting much in the group these days mainly

because I

> > > > was trying to complete this work. Hopefully everybody gets

benefited

> > > > in a better way by this, than my mails I hope.

> > > >

> > > > Love,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Pandit ji,

You are right, Me too. The confusion is just caused by the difference of opinion among texts in assigning lordship to the 1/8 th of day (1 and 1/2 hours); and not caused by our mistake.

There are more than 3 different opinions on the same available -

1) Parasara/Madhaveeya

The Yama (1/8th of day) lords are assigned in the order of week days; As I have given in the first document; the 8th yama for all weekdays is without lord. In this method case the 8th yama is NOT considered in lordship distribution. Both of them agree on the lord of all the 7 yamas for every day from Sunday to Saturday, except about the lordship of 8th yama. Parasara says 8th yama does not have a lord while, Madhaveeya says the lord of the 8th yama would be the lord of the day itself.

As per this system, the Saturn's Yama is termed span of Gulika (Gulika kala vela); and teh starting point of Satern's yama is termed Gulika the Khenika graha. Similarly the Sun's Yama is termed span of Kala (Kala kala vela); and teh starting point of Sun's yama is termed Gulika the Khenika graha. [There is no Rahu kala within this system]

The first table I gave was based on this – Thus it is correct.

2) Prasnamarga (Kerala paksha)

Prasnamarga also assigns the yama lords in the order of week days but states that the 8th yama should be assigned to Rahu. In this method case the 8th yama is considered in lordship distribution. This causes difference in the yama lordship distribution compared to Parasara/Madhaveeya system.

As per this system, the Saturn's Yama is termed span of Gulika (Gulika kala vela). Similarly the Sun's Yama is termed span of Kala (Kala kala vela) and so on. This system does not give much importance to the Khenika grahas suggested by Parasara and Madhaveeya, but instead proposes an alternate method to calculate Khenika grahas with the names as above. As per this system, end point of a complete Muhurta within Saturn's Yama should be termed Mandi/Gulika, the end point of a complete Muhurta with in Sun's yama should be termed Kala and so on.

The yama's assigned to Rahu is known as Rahukala as per this system. This is known as Kerala paksha (Opinion of Kerala people) of Rahukala.

Since this system does not discards Parasara's system of suggesting the rise of influential points (Khenika graha) at the beginning of Yama; the same can also be applied on to this if one wishes.

The current table I gave was based on this – Thus it is correct.

3) Tamil System (Paradesa paksha)

The system of Rahu kala calculation practiced in Tamil nadu is different from the above to. There might be a unique rule for calculating the other yama lords as well, as per this system; but I am not aware of it. This system is usually known with the name `Paradesa paksha' (opinion of foreigners) as well. This is used/practiced in Srilanka as well, and might have a Srilankan origin. Possibly that is why it came to be known as `opinion of foreigners'.

 

Pandit ji was pointing to this system – Thus it is correct.

 

Popular practice

The following points should be noted –

· The Rahukala in popular use is as per Tamil/Srilankan system

· The Yamagandakala in popular use is as per Parasara system

· The Gulikakala in popular use agrees with both Parasara and Kerala Paksha (and thus gains importance)

 

Apart from these three there seems to be many other opinions on lordship distribution for yama divisions such as the one that follows the sequence `Araka-Ara-Jeeva-Vit-Sukra-Mana-Indu-Phanini Kramal' etc. Combined to this there would be other opinions on Kshenika graha rise as well.

Comparison

· If we want to go by the words of sages Parasara's opinion should be accepted. But there is no Rahu kala, or Khenika graha rise within Yama in it.

· Prasanamarga system seems more logical, with proper distribution considering the 8 yama lords etc. Rahu kala and Khenika graha rise with in yama at the end point of complete Muhurta is present in it. The Parasara's opinion on Khenika graha rise at the starting point of each Yama could be integrated to it without much trouble. If we want a system, that integrates most of the available opinions, this should be the one of choice.

· The Tamil system is not acceptable, and does not provide a systematic rule for the calculation kala vela or khenika graha rise within yamas. Rahu kala calculation of this method deviates much from both Parasara and Kerala paksha. The system is a suitable candidate for discarding, but the popularity of Rahu kala calculation as per this system is a stumbling block.

Regards,

Sreenadh

, "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Pandit ji,> Did I made a mistake again? Let me check. I will get back.> Love,> Sreenadh> > , Panditji > navagraha@ wrote:> >> > Thanks Sreenadh,> > > > I think the Rahu kala is 1.5 hours after sunrise on Monday. Now if > yamas> > rise in order of weekdays then second yama on monday will be that > of mangal.> > Please clarify, I may be wrong in assuming that rahu kaal on manday > will be> > the second yama.> > > > ...> > > > > > On 7/17/07, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Pandit ji,> > > I am not much worried about copy right, since this is only a very> > > minor portion of the work, i plan to do. Some one can copy > something,> > > but not all that is in store and going to be visible. The flow > will> > > persist atleast for some more years to come. > > > I have already done some kmajor works such as compiling a book> > > similar to Prasnamarga (i.e following the same structure) but not > at> > > all taking slokas from prasnamarga, but quoting only from the > other> > > available works, and putting my unique (am i boasting) commentry > on> > > the same. Similarly a compilation of anceint Rishi hora slokas > (more> > > than 1500 in number) from the lost Rishi horas is also in place. > But> > > both these works needs to be transilated into English; intially i > have> > > done it in malayalam; my regional language. So no worries about > such> > > small efforts, even if someone takes away the bits and pieces. > > > As you mentioned it is for all, and even if somebody copies bits > of> > > this knowledge, i hope it would result in benefiting astrology as > a> > > whole only.> > > Rahu kala> > > ---------> > > As per Parasara the 8th Yama does not have a lord. But as per> > > Prasnamarga this Yama is assigned to Rahu. When the yamas are> > > distributed in the order of the same, the yama that is assigned to> > > Rahu will become Rahu kala. Please note that I made a mistake in > the> > > table that shows Yama distribution on page 10 of the document. (I> > > noted it just now only) I will correct it and upload the document> > > tomarrow. In the corrected table all the yamas that would be > marked by> > > a blank line will represent the Yama of Rahu or Rahu kala. Please> > > don't depend on that table till I upload the corrected document by> > > tomarrow. I will update the document with a line or two about Rahu> > > kala as well.> > >> > > Sani's yama is known as Gulika kala or Gulika's kala vela. i have> > > used the words 'span of Gulika' to mention the same in the > writeup.> > >> > > Love,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > > <%> 40>,> > > Panditji> > > <navagraha@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Namaste Sreenadhji,> > > >> > > > I have gone throught he first 25 pages or so and it is a great > work.> > > Some of> > > > the fonts did not come through. May be it is at my end of pdf> > > reader. Will> > > > go through the rest of the document. But it is looking like a > great> > > piece of> > > > literature survey. I would also suggest to you to please > copyright> > > the same.> > > > I know jyotish knowledge is for all. But it is your work and > your sweat.> > > >> > > > What portion of the yama is called Rahu Kala. I have read > opinions> > > of the> > > > 8th yama and sometimes shani yama. Which is it ? Also same > question> > > for yama> > > > ganta. If it is in your write up just point to the page number.> > > > Thanks> > > >> > > > ...> > > >> > > >> > > > On 7/17/07, Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear All,> > > > > I would like to know your response about the book on "Birth > time> > > > > Rectification" I have uploaded on the files section of the > group.> > > > >> > > > > Dear Pandit ji,> > > > > I have started it as an article as per your request, and now > since> > > > > is a 74 page document, and so I think it could be termed > book. Please> > > > > provide your valuable response about the methods discussed in > the> > > > > book, and your queries or criticisms about the same; which > would be> > > > > beneficial to all.> > > > >> > > > > P.S: I was not posting much in the group these days mainly > because I> > > > > was trying to complete this work. Hopefully everybody gets > benefited> > > > > in a better way by this, than my mails I hope.> > > > >> > > > > Love,> > > > > Sreenadh> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sreenadh,

 

Thanks for the explanation. If we assume Rahu kala to be the of the lordless yama. When would rahu kala be on Monday lets say. The reason I asked the question is I vaguely remember rahu kala being 1.5 hours after sunrise on Monday. Do you think that is true as per any system you have come across.

 

 

Thanks

 

....

On 7/20/07, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Pandit ji,

You are right, Me too. The confusion is just caused by the difference of opinion among texts in assigning lordship to the 1/8 th of day (1 and 1/2 hours); and not caused by our mistake.

There are more than 3 different opinions on the same available -

1) Parasara/Madhaveeya

The Yama (1/8th of day) lords are assigned in the order of week days; As I have given in the first document; the 8th yama for all weekdays is without lord.

In this method case the 8th yama is NOT considered in lordship distribution. Both of them agree on the lord of all the 7 yamas for every day from Sunday to Saturday, except about the lordship of 8th yama. Parasara says 8th yama does not have a lord while, Madhaveeya says the lord of the 8th yama would be the lord of the day itself.

As per this system, the Saturn's Yama is termed span of Gulika (Gulika kala vela); and teh starting point of Satern's yama is termed Gulika the Khenika graha. Similarly the Sun's Yama is termed span of Kala (Kala kala vela); and teh starting point of Sun's yama is termed Gulika the Khenika graha. [There is no Rahu kala within this system]

 

The first table I gave was based on this – Thus it is correct.

2) Prasnamarga (Kerala paksha)

Prasnamarga also assigns the yama lords in the order of week days but states that the 8th yama should be assigned to Rahu. In this method case the 8th yama is considered in lordship distribution. This causes difference in the yama lordship distribution compared to Parasara/Madhaveeya system.

As per this system, the Saturn's Yama is termed span of Gulika (Gulika kala vela). Similarly the Sun's Yama is termed span of Kala (Kala kala vela) and so on. This system does not give much importance to the Khenika grahas suggested by Parasara and Madhaveeya, but instead proposes an alternate method to calculate Khenika grahas with the names as above. As per this system, end point of a complete Muhurta within Saturn's Yama should be termed Mandi/Gulika, the end point of a complete Muhurta with in Sun's yama should be termed Kala and so on.

The yama's assigned to Rahu is known as Rahukala as per this system. This is known as Kerala paksha (Opinion of Kerala people) of Rahukala.

 

Since this system does not discards Parasara's system of suggesting the rise of influential points (Khenika graha) at the beginning of Yama; the same can also be applied on to this if one wishes.

 

The current table I gave was based on this – Thus it is correct.

3) Tamil System (Paradesa paksha)

The system of Rahu kala calculation practiced in Tamil nadu is different from the above to. There might be a unique rule for calculating the other yama lords as well, as per this system; but I am not aware of it. This system is usually known with the name `Paradesa paksha' (opinion of foreigners) as well. This is used/practiced in Srilanka as well, and might have a Srilankan

origin. Possibly that is why it came to be known as `opinion of foreigners'.

 

Pandit ji was pointing to this system – Thus it is correct.

 

Popular practice

The following points should be noted –

· The Rahukala in popular use is as per Tamil/Srilankan system

· The Yamagandakala in popular use is as per Parasara system

· The Gulikakala in popular use agrees with both Parasara and Kerala Paksha (and thus gains importance)

 

 

Apart from these three there seems to be many other opinions on lordship distribution for yama divisions such as the one that follows the sequence `Araka-Ara-Jeeva-Vit-Sukra-Mana-Indu-Phanini Kramal'

etc. Combined to this there would be other opinions on Kshenika graha rise as well.

Comparison

· If we want to go by the words of sages Parasara's opinion should be accepted. But there is no Rahu kala, or Khenika graha rise within Yama in it.

 

· Prasanamarga system seems more logical, with proper distribution considering the 8 yama lords etc. Rahu kala and Khenika graha rise with in yama at the end point of complete Muhurta is present in it. The Parasara's opinion on Khenika graha rise at the starting point of each Yama could be integrated to it without much trouble. If we want a system, that integrates most of the available opinions, this should be the one of choice.

 

· The Tamil system is not acceptable, and does not provide a systematic rule for the calculation kala vela or khenika graha rise within

yamas. Rahu kala calculation of this method deviates much from both Parasara and Kerala paksha. The system is a suitable candidate for discarding, but the popularity of Rahu kala calculation as per this system is a stumbling block.

 

Regards,

Sreenadh

 

, " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote:

>> Dear Pandit ji,> Did I made a mistake again? Let me check. I will get back.> Love,> Sreenadh> >

, Panditji > navagraha@ wrote:> >> > Thanks Sreenadh,> > > > I think the Rahu kala is 1.5 hours after sunrise on Monday. Now if > yamas> > rise in order of weekdays then second yama on monday will be that > of mangal.> > Please clarify, I may be wrong in assuming that rahu kaal on manday > will be> > the second yama.> > > > ...> > > > > > On 7/17/07, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:

> > >> > > Dear Pandit ji,> > > I am not much worried about copy right, since this is only a very> > > minor portion of the work, i plan to do. Some one can copy > something,

> > > but not all that is in store and going to be visible. The flow > will> > > persist atleast for some more years to come. > > > I have already done some kmajor works such as compiling a book

> > > similar to Prasnamarga (i.e following the same structure) but not > at> > > all taking slokas from prasnamarga, but quoting only from the > other> > > available works, and putting my unique (am i boasting) commentry > on> > > the same. Similarly a compilation of anceint Rishi hora slokas > (more> > > than 1500 in number) from the lost Rishi horas is also in place. > But> > > both these works needs to be transilated into English; intially i > have> > > done it in malayalam; my regional language. So no worries about > such> > > small efforts, even if someone takes away the bits and pieces. > > > As you mentioned it is for all, and even if somebody copies bits > of> > > this knowledge, i hope it would result in benefiting astrology as > a> > > whole only.> > > Rahu kala> > > ---------> > > As per Parasara the 8th Yama does not have a lord. But as per

> > > Prasnamarga this Yama is assigned to Rahu. When the yamas are> > > distributed in the order of the same, the yama that is assigned to> > > Rahu will become Rahu kala. Please note that I made a mistake in > the> > > table that shows Yama distribution on page 10 of the document. (I> > > noted it just now only) I will correct it and upload the document> > > tomarrow. In the corrected table all the yamas that would be > marked by> > > a blank line will represent the Yama of Rahu or Rahu kala. Please> > > don't depend on that table till I upload the corrected document by> > > tomarrow. I will update the document with a line or two about Rahu

> > > kala as well.> > >> > > Sani's yama is known as Gulika kala or Gulika's kala vela. i have> > > used the words 'span of Gulika' to mention the same in the > writeup.> > >> > > Love,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > >

<%> 40>,> > > Panditji> > > <navagraha@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Namaste Sreenadhji,

> > > >> > > > I have gone throught he first 25 pages or so and it is a great > work.> > > Some of> > > > the fonts did not come through. May be it is at my end of pdf

> > > reader. Will> > > > go through the rest of the document. But it is looking like a > great> > > piece of> > > > literature survey. I would also suggest to you to please > copyright> > > the same.> > > > I know jyotish knowledge is for all. But it is your work and > your sweat.> > > >> > > > What portion of the yama is called Rahu Kala. I have read > opinions> > > of the> > > > 8th yama and sometimes shani yama. Which is it ? Also same > question> > > for yama> > > > ganta. If it is in your write up just point to the page number.

> > > > Thanks> > > >> > > > ...> > > >> > > >> > > > On 7/17/07, Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > >

> > > > > Dear All,> > > > > I would like to know your response about the book on " Birth > time> > > > > Rectification " I have uploaded on the files section of the > group.> > > > >> > > > > Dear Pandit ji,> > > > > I have started it as an article as per your request, and now > since> > > > > is a 74 page document, and so I think it could be termed > book. Please> > > > > provide your valuable response about the methods discussed in > the> > > > > book, and your queries or criticisms about the same; which > would be

> > > > > beneficial to all.> > > > >> > > > > P.S: I was not posting much in the group these days mainly > because I> > > > > was trying to complete this work. Hopefully everybody gets > benefited> > > > > in a better way by this, than my mails I hope.> > > > >> > > > > Love,> > > > > Sreenadh> > > > >

> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >>

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Dear Pandit ji,

1) Tamil System

---------------

As per the Tamil System, the Rahukala would be

8th Yama on Sun day = 4.30 PM – 6.30 PM

2nd Yama on Monday = 7.30AM – 9.00AM

7th yama on Tuesday = 3.00PM – 4.30PM

5th yama on Wednesday = 12.00PM-1.00PM

6th yama on Thursday = 1.30PM-3.00PM

4th yama on Friday = 10.30AM-12.00AM

3rd yama on Saturday = 9.00AM – 10.30AM

 

* Satisfying your condition. This is the popular system for

calculating Rahukala. But this is not the method advocated by

Prasnamarga. I am yet to find out, which text exactly refers this -

this system is known as foreigin system (Paradesa paksham = Tamil

system) in Kerala. But now it is popular throughout India.

 

Prasnamarga system (Kerala system)

-

As per Prasnamarga, Rahukala would be-

 

8th yama on Sunday = 4.30PM – 6.30PM

7th yama on Monday = 3.00PM – 4.30PM

6th yama on Tuesday = 1.30PM – 3.00PM

5th yama on Wednesday = 12.00PM-1.00PM

4th yama on Thursday = 10.30AM-12.00AM

3rd yama on Friday = 9.00AM-10.30AM

2nd yama on Saturday = 7.30AM – 9.00AM

 

* You can easly see that this is more clear and sequential. This is

the Kerala system.

 

Parasara system

----------------

* Parasara does not advocate any Rahukala based on yama divisions. If

we assume the lordless '8th yama for all weekdays suggested' by

Parasahara as Rahukala (!! It is absurd, Parasara does not ask us to

do so!) then it would be from 4.30PM to 6.00PM everyday evening.

May be we should better call it Sandhyakala, the time for worshiping

god.

 

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, Panditji

<navagraha wrote:

>

> Namaste Sreenadh,

>

> Thanks for the explanation. If we assume Rahu kala to be the of the

lordless

> yama. When would rahu kala be on Monday lets say. The reason I

asked the

> question is I vaguely remember rahu kala being 1.5 hours after

sunrise on

> Monday. Do you think that is true as per any system you have come

across.

>

> Thanks

>

> ...

>

>

> On 7/20/07, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pandit ji,

> >

> > You are right, Me too. The confusion is just caused by the

difference of

> > opinion among texts in assigning lordship to the 1/8 th of day (1

and 1/2

> > hours); and not caused by our mistake.

> >

> > There are more than 3 different opinions on the same available -

> >

> > *1) Parasara/Madhaveeya*

> >

> > The Yama (1/8th of day) lords are assigned in the order of week

days; As

> > I have given in the first document; the 8th yama for all weekdays

is without

> > lord. *In this method case the 8th yama is NOT considered in

lordship

> > distribution.* Both of them agree on the lord of all the 7 yamas

for every

> > day from Sunday to Saturday, except about the lordship of 8th

yama. Parasara

> > says 8th yama does not have a lord while, Madhaveeya says the

lord of the

> > 8th yama would be the lord of the day itself.

> >

> > As per this system, the Saturn's Yama is termed span of Gulika

(Gulika

> > kala vela); and teh starting point of Satern's yama is termed

Gulika the

> > Khenika graha. Similarly the Sun's Yama is termed span of Kala

(Kala kala

> > vela); and teh starting point of Sun's yama is termed Gulika the

Khenika

> > graha. [There is no Rahu kala within this system]

> >

> > The first table I gave was based on this – Thus it is correct.

> >

> > *2) Prasnamarga (Kerala paksha)*

> >

> > Prasnamarga also assigns the yama lords in the order of week

days but

> > states that the 8th yama should be assigned to Rahu. *In this

method case

> > the 8th yama is considered in lordship distribution. *This causes

> > difference in the yama lordship distribution compared to

Parasara/Madhaveeya

> > system.

> >

> > As per this system, the Saturn's Yama is termed span of

Gulika (Gulika

> > kala vela). Similarly the Sun's Yama is termed span of Kala (Kala

kala vela)

> > and so on. This system does not give much importance to the

Khenika grahas

> > suggested by Parasara and Madhaveeya, but instead proposes an

alternate

> > method to calculate Khenika grahas with the names as above. As

per this

> > system, end point of a complete Muhurta within Saturn's Yama

should be

> > termed Mandi/Gulika, the end point of a complete Muhurta with in

Sun's yama

> > should be termed Kala and so on.

> >

> > The yama's assigned to Rahu is known as Rahukala as per this

system.

> > This is known as Kerala paksha (Opinion of Kerala people) of

Rahukala.

> >

> > Since this system does not discards Parasara's system of

suggesting

> > the rise of influential points (Khenika graha) at the beginning

of Yama; the

> > same can also be applied on to this if one wishes.

> >

> > The current table I gave was based on this – Thus it is correct.

> >

> > *3) Tamil System (Paradesa paksha)*

> >

> > The system of Rahu kala calculation practiced in Tamil nadu is

> > different from the above to. There might be a unique rule for

calculating

> > the other yama lords as well, as per this system; but I am not

aware of it.

> > This system is usually known with the name `Paradesa paksha'

(opinion of

> > foreigners) as well. This is used/practiced in Srilanka as well,

and might

> > have a Srilankan origin. Possibly that is why it came to be

known as

> > `opinion of foreigners'.

> >

> >

> >

> > Pandit ji was pointing to this system – Thus it is correct.

> >

> >

> > Popular practice

> >

> > The following points should be noted –

> >

> > · The Rahukala in popular use is as per Tamil/Srilankan

system

> >

> > · The Yamagandakala in popular use is as per Parasara

system

> >

> > · The Gulikakala in popular use agrees with both Parasara

and

> > Kerala Paksha (and thus gains importance)

> >

> >

> >

> > Apart from these three there seems to be many other opinions on

lordship

> > distribution for yama divisions such as the one that follows the

sequence

> > `Araka-Ara-Jeeva-Vit-Sukra-Mana-Indu-Phanini Kramal' etc.

Combined to

> > this there would be other opinions on Kshenika graha rise as well.

> > Comparison

> >

> > · If we want to go by the words of sages Parasara's

opinion should

> > be accepted. But there is no Rahu kala, or Khenika graha rise

within Yama in

> > it.

> >

> > · Prasanamarga system seems more logical, with proper

distribution

> > considering the 8 yama lords etc. Rahu kala and Khenika graha

rise with in

> > yama at the end point of complete Muhurta is present in it. The

Parasara's

> > opinion on Khenika graha rise at the starting point of each Yama

could be

> > integrated to it without much trouble. If we want a system, that

integrates

> > most of the available opinions, this should be the one of choice.

> >

> > · The Tamil system is not acceptable, and does not provide

a

> > systematic rule for the calculation kala vela or khenika graha

rise within

> > yamas. Rahu kala calculation of this method deviates much from

both

> > Parasara and Kerala paksha. The system is a suitable candidate for

> > discarding, but the popularity of Rahu kala calculation as per

this system

> > is a stumbling block.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Sreenadh

> >

> >

> > , " Sreenadh "

<sreesog@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pandit ji,

> > > Did I made a mistake again? Let me check. I will get back.

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > > , Panditji

> > > navagraha@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Thanks Sreenadh,

> > > >

> > > > I think the Rahu kala is 1.5 hours after sunrise on Monday.

Now if

> > > yamas

> > > > rise in order of weekdays then second yama on monday will be

that

> > > of mangal.

> > > > Please clarify, I may be wrong in assuming that rahu kaal on

manday

> > > will be

> > > > the second yama.

> > > >

> > > > ...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 7/17/07, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Pandit ji,

> > > > > I am not much worried about copy right, since this is only

a very

> > > > > minor portion of the work, i plan to do. Some one can copy

> > > something,

> > > > > but not all that is in store and going to be visible. The

flow

> > > will

> > > > > persist atleast for some more years to come.

> > > > > I have already done some kmajor works such as compiling a

book

> > > > > similar to Prasnamarga (i.e following the same structure)

but not

> > > at

> > > > > all taking slokas from prasnamarga, but quoting only from

the

> > > other

> > > > > available works, and putting my unique (am i boasting)

commentry

> > > on

> > > > > the same. Similarly a compilation of anceint Rishi hora

slokas

> > > (more

> > > > > than 1500 in number) from the lost Rishi horas is also in

place.

> > > But

> > > > > both these works needs to be transilated into English;

intially i

> > > have

> > > > > done it in malayalam; my regional language. So no worries

about

> > > such

> > > > > small efforts, even if someone takes away the bits and

pieces.

> > > > > As you mentioned it is for all, and even if somebody copies

bits

> > > of

> > > > > this knowledge, i hope it would result in benefiting

astrology as

> > > a

> > > > > whole only.

> > > > > Rahu kala

> > > > > ---------

> > > > > As per Parasara the 8th Yama does not have a lord. But as

per

> > > > > Prasnamarga this Yama is assigned to Rahu. When the yamas

are

> > > > > distributed in the order of the same, the yama that is

assigned to

> > > > > Rahu will become Rahu kala. Please note that I made a

mistake in

> > > the

> > > > > table that shows Yama distribution on page 10 of the

document. (I

> > > > > noted it just now only) I will correct it and upload the

document

> > > > > tomarrow. In the corrected table all the yamas that would be

> > > marked by

> > > > > a blank line will represent the Yama of Rahu or Rahu kala.

Please

> > > > > don't depend on that table till I upload the corrected

document by

> > > > > tomarrow. I will update the document with a line or two

about Rahu

> > > > > kala as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sani's yama is known as Gulika kala or Gulika's kala vela.

i have

> > > > > used the words 'span of Gulika' to mention the same in the

> > > writeup.

> > > > >

> > > > > Love,

> > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > >

<%

> > > 40>,

> > > > > Panditji

> > > > > <navagraha@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste Sreenadhji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have gone throught he first 25 pages or so and it is a

great

> > > work.

> > > > > Some of

> > > > > > the fonts did not come through. May be it is at my end of

pdf

> > > > > reader. Will

> > > > > > go through the rest of the document. But it is looking

like a

> > > great

> > > > > piece of

> > > > > > literature survey. I would also suggest to you to please

> > > copyright

> > > > > the same.

> > > > > > I know jyotish knowledge is for all. But it is your work

and

> > > your sweat.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What portion of the yama is called Rahu Kala. I have read

> > > opinions

> > > > > of the

> > > > > > 8th yama and sometimes shani yama. Which is it ? Also same

> > > question

> > > > > for yama

> > > > > > ganta. If it is in your write up just point to the page

number.

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 7/17/07, Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > I would like to know your response about the book

on " Birth

> > > time

> > > > > > > Rectification " I have uploaded on the files section of

the

> > > group.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Pandit ji,

> > > > > > > I have started it as an article as per your request,

and now

> > > since

> > > > > > > is a 74 page document, and so I think it could be termed

> > > book. Please

> > > > > > > provide your valuable response about the methods

discussed in

> > > the

> > > > > > > book, and your queries or criticisms about the same;

which

> > > would be

> > > > > > > beneficial to all.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > P.S: I was not posting much in the group these days

mainly

> > > because I

> > > > > > > was trying to complete this work. Hopefully everybody

gets

> > > benefited

> > > > > > > in a better way by this, than my mails I hope.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Love,

> > > > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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