Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Dear Sunil ji, Thanks for the very good and informative mail. But still I think the question, " Whether good, moderate or bad results should be predicted for a particular Dasa? " , which is given much importance in many texts and many methodologies are described for the same (as well summarized in your mail), is of less importance compared to the major question, " What are the results to be predicted for a particular Dasa? " , which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many texts that discusses the subject. The question with secondary status (a higher class subject) is given most importance and the question with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is given least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is misled! They ask questions and try their level best to determine and talk a lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad - results; but pitifully fails to determine " What results should be attributed to that period (Dasa)? " !!! Shouldn't we try to put the record straight? Shouldn't we try to recast the right perspective of - First, identifying the results that should be attributed to that Dasa; and then, Secondly, to identifying to what extend/amount (large, moderate, weak) that results to fructify? Of course for those who don't know the answer to the first question, the answer to the second question (which you to address efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But to those who know the answer to the first question, your mail would be a much beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would see this point. Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive description of the methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second question addressed). Love, Sreenadh , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > Hare ramakrishna, > Dear jyothishas and lovers of astrology, > > dasa analysis:- > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well established > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one hour window > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N rao ji they know s 40 > kinds of differrent dasas and they collects datas and questions and > answerring it tru applying atleast 4 popular dasas applicable to the > chart and so they r very safe . > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is more > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results accordingly .for this we > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is lagna ,jupiter ,mer > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are making lagna very strong ,if > moon is more strong by above situations we must give importance to > moon.And take moon sign as lagna. some says till 30 years lagna then > upto 60 moon and later years sun shud also be treated as lagna and shud > say the results ,but i am not favring that as lagna is smallest unit and > happening within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna should > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless previous > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and moon in end > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which ever results signified > it by it will be giving but this is only a general statement. > Depending on the positions and bhavas the palnets will giv various > results . fro eg - we can take some one has jupiter in 2nd house ,in one > chart its in dhanu rasi and in another chart its in makar rasi ,so in > both charts jupiter is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa > ,apahara(sub periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart its 2nd > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart the lagna > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no cancellation s of > neechatwa the effect will be bad also .Even though its dasa of lagna > lord . so i am trying to formulate some of the principles which can > be useful in seeing a dasa and results > ------------------------------ 1) see > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed and see its > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya stiti ( normal > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in ashta varga for this > planet ,positioned in favrable places like 10th ,11th,or lagna ,also > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas this r generaly considered good. > 2)gulika lord ship (dispositor of gulika --according to kerala > sampradaya) ,assossiation with gulika ,less points in ashta varga > ,sastru khsetra stithi ,neecha stithi ,combust ,yoga with malefics,rasi > santhi,and bhava santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if > positioned in upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be > good ,not the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and well > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled only in > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or benefics if > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions with ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra > kshetra stithi and if aspected by benefics or palced also in benefic > vargas the planets will giv good results 6)If dasa lord is strong and > and frnd of lagna lord good and favrable results can be expected . > 7)but if enmy of lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa > will be highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with a > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics will giv bad > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa lord is benefic or > functional benefic if well placed with strenght will giv good results > and mafefic or functional malefics ill placed and weak will giv bad > results . 10) if the planet is placed in sheershodaya sign it may giv > results in begining .and prishtodaya sign it will giv results in end and > if in ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad results . > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are sheershodaya(rising with > head signs) and aries ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are > prishtodaya signs (rising with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya sign > ( rising with both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if he is > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced for higher > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg --mercury is 6th > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if placed in virgo ,ucha rasi he will > be the best among dasas. 12)It says 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords from > janma nakshatra adhi pathy order will be supposed to be best dasas > 13) if 3rd house or 12th house and any weak planets are situated his > dasa apahara ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics then it > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi (begining or > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble some ,sorrows ,pains ,deseases > and various mishappes may be possible and if the planets is in 30 th > degree its very dangerous may be it can cause death also. 15) The > planet positioned with rahu and and dispositor of sign were rahu > paositioned cannot deliver good results of them and rahu will deliver > that results. 16) planets positioned in purticular nashatra will aslo > give the results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna more > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub period of > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord or who is > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in weak position in > rasi of malefic planets or houses such period will be also trouble some. > 18) where ever malefic planets are positioned they give results > according to its bhava in frst 1/3 rd of dasa and then rasi phala next > 1/3 and then according to planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of > those palnets. 19) if any planet has got any malefics from 4th house > its position during his dasa some problems regding property is possible. > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa its rasi > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of the results will be > given to aspects and conjns of various planets. 21)If benefic and > malefic is sitting together the dasa of benefic will be bad and malefic > will be good . 22) any planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka in > neecha he cannot giv good results and if everse it will giv best results > . a)if sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same sun > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and happyness > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in end of the dasa b) Moon > also same results mentioned above but welfare of mother shud be seen . > c)mars -if neechamsaka --bad for brothers and kids and property > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi labham ,dhana labham along with happyness from > brothers . d)budha is neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of > intelligence ,and also our actions will be judged very badly . > uchamsaka can giv first bad then good positions and experiences e) jup > in neechamsaka --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every body > ,even our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in education and > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse and problems > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of luck ,less money ,and change > is position to fall from position. in uchamsaka - very good comforting > experiences ,good experince regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and wealth > . g) sani in neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the > hell in this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and then > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable wealth may be > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best results if > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona with kendra lords and if > alone they giv the results of rasi lord and also nakshatra lord > generaly rahu in first half of zodiac gives best results and other half > is good for ketu It says aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in good > bhavas good results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi > ,happiness in pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and > capricon and virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from spouse > and kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th and > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who assossiated with > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa lord in their > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but if that planets has drishti > pf good planets and also placed well in chart the bad results are > nullified . same is the case of gulika degree lords dasa again if good > planets are aspecting or guru aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra this > results cancelles a great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in > series and guru dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very bad. > 27) the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with rahu also > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra -surya for ladies kuja > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29)Dasa of ashtama lord is bad > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30)3/6/11 th lords if they are benefics > their dasa is supposed to be bad. 31)moon and sun and lagna lord has > no ashtamadhi pathy dosha. 32)see in which house from dasa lord the > apahara lord is placed and results also will be according to the place > ment. 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the deed > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While seeing any > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and lagna lord and dasa lord and > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to the results of dasa also transit > also plays a good role is making a better or slow results And delinating > tru various vargas is not mentioned here . ALSO I REQUEST SREENADH AND > OTHERS TO COMMENT AND COME OUT WITH WORKING EXAMPLES SO AS TO BENEFIT > GROUP MEMBERS.I AM JUST CHANNELING A DISCUSSION ALL ARE INVITED TO > PARTICIPATE regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Hare ramakrishna, dear sreenadh, yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of command over laungage i realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i planned to write it .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys any one chart and describe it based on principles of astrology,which u can do it better than me . thanks and regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> Thanks for the very good and informative mail. But still I think > the question, "Whether good, moderate or bad results should be > predicted for a particular Dasa?", which is given much importance in > many texts and many methodologies are described for the same (as well > summarized in your mail), is of less importance compared to the major > question, "What are the results to be predicted for a particular > Dasa?", which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many > texts that discusses the subject. The question with secondary status > (a higher class subject) is given most importance and the question > with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is given > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is misled! > They ask questions and try their level best to determine and talk a > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad - results; > but pitifully fails to determine "What results should be attributed > to that period (Dasa)?"!!! Shouldn't we try to put the record > straight? > Shouldn't we try to recast the right perspective of -> First, identifying the results that should be attributed to that > Dasa; and then,> Secondly, to identifying to what extend/amount (large, moderate, > weak) that results to fructify?> Of course for those who don't know the answer to the first > question, the answer to the second question (which you to address > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But to those who know > the answer to the first question, your mail would be a much > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would see this point.> Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive description of the > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second question > addressed). > Love,> Sreenadh > > , "sunil nair" > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > Hare ramakrishna,> > Dear jyothishas and lovers of astrology,> > > > dasa analysis:-> > > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well established> > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one hour > window> > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N rao ji they know s > 40> > kinds of differrent dasas and they collects datas and questions and> > answerring it tru applying atleast 4 popular dasas applicable to the> > chart and so they r very safe .> > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is more> > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results accordingly .for > this we> > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is lagna ,jupiter ,mer> > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are making lagna very > strong ,if> > moon is more strong by above situations we must give importance to> > moon.And take moon sign as lagna. some says till 30 years lagna > then> > upto 60 moon and later years sun shud also be treated as lagna and > shud> > say the results ,but i am not favring that as lagna is smallest > unit and> > happening within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna > should> > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless previous> > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in> > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and moon > in end> > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which ever results > signified> > it by it will be giving but this is only a general statement. > > Depending on the positions and bhavas the palnets will giv various> > results . fro eg - we can take some one has jupiter in 2nd > house ,in one> > chart its in dhanu rasi and in another chart its in makar rasi ,so > in> > both charts jupiter is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa> > ,apahara(sub periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart > its 2nd> > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart the > lagna> > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no cancellation s of> > neechatwa the effect will be bad also .Even though its dasa of lagna> > lord . so i am trying to formulate some of the principles which > can> > be useful in seeing a dasa and results > > ------------------------------ > 1) see> > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed and see > its> > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya stiti ( normal> > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in ashta varga for this> > planet ,positioned in favrable places like 10th ,11th,or lagna ,also> > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas this r generaly considered > good. > > 2)gulika lord ship (dispositor of gulika --according to kerala> > sampradaya) ,assossiation with gulika ,less points in ashta varga> > ,sastru khsetra stithi ,neecha stithi ,combust ,yoga with > malefics,rasi> > santhi,and bhava santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if> > positioned in upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be> > good ,not the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and > well> > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled only in> > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or > benefics if> > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions with > ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra> > kshetra stithi and if aspected by benefics or palced also in benefic> > vargas the planets will giv good results 6)If dasa lord is > strong and> > and frnd of lagna lord good and favrable results can be expected . > > 7)but if enmy of lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa> > will be highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with > a> > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics will > giv bad> > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa lord is benefic or> > functional benefic if well placed with strenght will giv good > results> > and mafefic or functional malefics ill placed and weak will giv bad> > results . 10) if the planet is placed in sheershodaya sign it may > giv> > results in begining .and prishtodaya sign it will giv results in > end and> > if in ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad > results .> > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are sheershodaya(rising > with> > head signs) and aries ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are> > prishtodaya signs (rising with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya > sign> > ( rising with both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if > he is> > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced for > higher> > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg --mercury is > 6th> > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if placed in virgo ,ucha rasi he > will> > be the best among dasas. 12)It says 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords > from> > janma nakshatra adhi pathy order will be supposed to be best > dasas > > 13) if 3rd house or 12th house and any weak planets are situated his> > dasa apahara ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics > then it> > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi (begining > or> > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble > some ,sorrows ,pains ,deseases> > and various mishappes may be possible and if the planets is in 30 th> > degree its very dangerous may be it can cause death also. 15) The> > planet positioned with rahu and and dispositor of sign were rahu> > paositioned cannot deliver good results of them and rahu will > deliver> > that results. 16) planets positioned in purticular nashatra will > aslo> > give the results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna > more> > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub period > of> > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord or who is> > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in weak > position in> > rasi of malefic planets or houses such period will be also trouble > some.> > 18) where ever malefic planets are positioned they give results> > according to its bhava in frst 1/3 rd of dasa and then rasi phala > next> > 1/3 and then according to planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of> > those palnets. 19) if any planet has got any malefics from 4th > house> > its position during his dasa some problems regding property is > possible.> > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa its > rasi> > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of the results > will be> > given to aspects and conjns of various planets. 21)If benefic and> > malefic is sitting together the dasa of benefic will be bad and > malefic> > will be good . 22) any planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka > in> > neecha he cannot giv good results and if everse it will giv best > results> > . a)if sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to> > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same sun> > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and > happyness> > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in end of the dasa b)> Moon> > also same results mentioned above but welfare of mother shud be > seen . > > c)mars -if neechamsaka --bad for brothers and kids and property > > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi labham ,dhana labham along with happyness > from> > brothers . d)budha is neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of> > intelligence ,and also our actions will be judged very badly . > > uchamsaka can giv first bad then good positions and experiences > e) jup> > in neechamsaka --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every > body> > ,even our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka> > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in education > and> > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse and > problems> > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of luck ,less money ,and > change> > is position to fall from position. in uchamsaka - very good > comforting> > experiences ,good experince regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and > wealth> > . g) sani in neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the> > hell in this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and > then> > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable wealth may > be> > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best results if> > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona with kendra lords > and if> > alone they giv the results of rasi lord and also nakshatra lord > > generaly rahu in first half of zodiac gives best results and other > half> > is good for ketu It says aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in > good> > bhavas good results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi> > ,happiness in pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and> > capricon and virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from > spouse> > and kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th > and> > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who assossiated > with> > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa lord in > their> > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but if that planets has > drishti> > pf good planets and also placed well in chart the bad results are> > nullified . same is the case of gulika degree lords dasa again if > good> > planets are aspecting or guru aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra > this> > results cancelles a great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in> > series and guru dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very > bad.> > 27) the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with rahu > also> > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra -surya for ladies > kuja> > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29)Dasa of ashtama lord is > bad> > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30)3/6/11 th lords if they are > benefics> > their dasa is supposed to be bad. 31)moon and sun and lagna lord > has> > no ashtamadhi pathy dosha. 32)see in which house from dasa lord > the> > apahara lord is placed and results also will be according to the > place> > ment. 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the > deed> > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While > seeing any> > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and lagna lord and dasa > lord and> > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to the results of dasa also > transit> > also plays a good role is making a better or slow results And > delinating> > tru various vargas is not mentioned here . ALSO I REQUEST > SREENADH AND> > OTHERS TO COMMENT AND COME OUT WITH WORKING EXAMPLES SO AS TO > BENEFIT> > GROUP MEMBERS.I AM JUST CHANNELING A DISCUSSION ALL ARE INVITED TO> > PARTICIPATE regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Dear Sunil ji! You said: ==> > I request u to analys any one chart and describe it based on > principles of astrology, which u can do it better than me . <== Ooops!! That is a trap! But yes, we will do that taking some chart - just for the sake of clarity (are we not doing it already?!; I think what we do in all chart reading is that itself!). * Let us take any chart (but don't mention whose it is), about which most of us may know, and provide. * Take a specific period (Dasa) in that individual's life. * Let us go through the results that would be predicted and later compare it with actual results. This may serve 2 things. 1) The weight of previous knowledge contaminating predictions can be avoided. 2) The reading would be still prediction rather than a post mortem analysis. I request a third party (Srinivas ji, Panditji, Pradeep, Justin or some one else) to provide a chart. Remember the chart should be of some one, about the life of whom, all of us know already. All those who do not know `whose chart it is', will have a go - on the result predicted for that Dasa, for that individual. Let us try to know how much astrology helps us in arriving at correct possibilities. Thus the preconditions are – • The predictions should be for a particular Vimsottari Dasa period only. • The references and technique used must be clarified in detail in the post. Love, Sreenadh , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > Hare ramakrishna, > > dear sreenadh, > > yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of command over laungage i > realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i planned to write it > .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys any one chart and > describe it based on principles of astrology,which u can do it better > than me . > > thanks and regrds > > sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil ji, > > Thanks for the very good and informative mail. But still I think > > the question, " Whether good, moderate or bad results should be > > predicted for a particular Dasa? " , which is given much importance in > > many texts and many methodologies are described for the same (as well > > summarized in your mail), is of less importance compared to the major > > question, " What are the results to be predicted for a particular > > Dasa? " , which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many > > texts that discusses the subject. The question with secondary status > > (a higher class subject) is given most importance and the question > > with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is given > > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is misled! > > They ask questions and try their level best to determine and talk a > > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad - results; > > but pitifully fails to determine " What results should be attributed > > to that period (Dasa)? " !!! Shouldn't we try to put the record > > straight? > > Shouldn't we try to recast the right perspective of - > > First, identifying the results that should be attributed to that > > Dasa; and then, > > Secondly, to identifying to what extend/amount (large, moderate, > > weak) that results to fructify? > > Of course for those who don't know the answer to the first > > question, the answer to the second question (which you to address > > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But to those who know > > the answer to the first question, your mail would be a much > > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would see this point. > > Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive description of the > > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second question > > addressed). > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > , " sunil nair " > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna, > > > Dear jyothishas and lovers of astrology, > > > > > > dasa analysis:- > > > > > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well established > > > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one hour > > window > > > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N rao ji they know s > > 40 > > > kinds of differrent dasas and they collects datas and questions and > > > answerring it tru applying atleast 4 popular dasas applicable to the > > > chart and so they r very safe . > > > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is more > > > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results accordingly .for > > this we > > > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is lagna ,jupiter ,mer > > > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are making lagna very > > strong ,if > > > moon is more strong by above situations we must give importance to > > > moon.And take moon sign as lagna. some says till 30 years lagna > > then > > > upto 60 moon and later years sun shud also be treated as lagna and > > shud > > > say the results ,but i am not favring that as lagna is smallest > > unit and > > > happening within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna > > should > > > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless previous > > > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in > > > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and moon > > in end > > > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which ever results > > signified > > > it by it will be giving but this is only a general statement. > > > Depending on the positions and bhavas the palnets will giv various > > > results . fro eg - we can take some one has jupiter in 2nd > > house ,in one > > > chart its in dhanu rasi and in another chart its in makar rasi ,so > > in > > > both charts jupiter is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa > > > ,apahara(sub periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart > > its 2nd > > > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart the > > lagna > > > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no cancellation s of > > > neechatwa the effect will be bad also .Even though its dasa of lagna > > > lord . so i am trying to formulate some of the principles which > > can > > > be useful in seeing a dasa and results > > > ------------------------------ > > 1) see > > > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed and see > > its > > > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya stiti ( normal > > > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in ashta varga for this > > > planet ,positioned in favrable places like 10th ,11th,or lagna ,also > > > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas this r generaly considered > > good. > > > 2)gulika lord ship (dispositor of gulika --according to kerala > > > sampradaya) ,assossiation with gulika ,less points in ashta varga > > > ,sastru khsetra stithi ,neecha stithi ,combust ,yoga with > > malefics,rasi > > > santhi,and bhava santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if > > > positioned in upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be > > > good ,not the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and > > well > > > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled only in > > > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or > > benefics if > > > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions with > > ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra > > > kshetra stithi and if aspected by benefics or palced also in benefic > > > vargas the planets will giv good results 6)If dasa lord is > > strong and > > > and frnd of lagna lord good and favrable results can be expected . > > > 7)but if enmy of lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa > > > will be highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with > > a > > > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics will > > giv bad > > > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa lord is benefic or > > > functional benefic if well placed with strenght will giv good > > results > > > and mafefic or functional malefics ill placed and weak will giv bad > > > results . 10) if the planet is placed in sheershodaya sign it may > > giv > > > results in begining .and prishtodaya sign it will giv results in > > end and > > > if in ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad > > results . > > > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are sheershodaya(rising > > with > > > head signs) and aries ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are > > > prishtodaya signs (rising with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya > > sign > > > ( rising with both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if > > he is > > > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced for > > higher > > > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg --mercury is > > 6th > > > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if placed in virgo ,ucha rasi he > > will > > > be the best among dasas. 12)It says 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords > > from > > > janma nakshatra adhi pathy order will be supposed to be best > > dasas > > > 13) if 3rd house or 12th house and any weak planets are situated his > > > dasa apahara ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics > > then it > > > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi (begining > > or > > > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble > > some ,sorrows ,pains ,deseases > > > and various mishappes may be possible and if the planets is in 30 th > > > degree its very dangerous may be it can cause death also. 15) The > > > planet positioned with rahu and and dispositor of sign were rahu > > > paositioned cannot deliver good results of them and rahu will > > deliver > > > that results. 16) planets positioned in purticular nashatra will > > aslo > > > give the results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna > > more > > > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub period > > of > > > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord or who is > > > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in weak > > position in > > > rasi of malefic planets or houses such period will be also trouble > > some. > > > 18) where ever malefic planets are positioned they give results > > > according to its bhava in frst 1/3 rd of dasa and then rasi phala > > next > > > 1/3 and then according to planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of > > > those palnets. 19) if any planet has got any malefics from 4th > > house > > > its position during his dasa some problems regding property is > > possible. > > > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa its > > rasi > > > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of the results > > will be > > > given to aspects and conjns of various planets. 21)If benefic and > > > malefic is sitting together the dasa of benefic will be bad and > > malefic > > > will be good . 22) any planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka > > in > > > neecha he cannot giv good results and if everse it will giv best > > results > > > . a)if sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to > > > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same sun > > > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and > > happyness > > > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in end of the dasa b) > > Moon > > > also same results mentioned above but welfare of mother shud be > > seen . > > > c)mars -if neechamsaka --bad for brothers and kids and property > > > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi labham ,dhana labham along with happyness > > from > > > brothers . d)budha is neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of > > > intelligence ,and also our actions will be judged very badly . > > > uchamsaka can giv first bad then good positions and experiences > > e) jup > > > in neechamsaka --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every > > body > > > ,even our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka > > > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in education > > and > > > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse and > > problems > > > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of luck ,less money ,and > > change > > > is position to fall from position. in uchamsaka - very good > > comforting > > > experiences ,good experince regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and > > wealth > > > . g) sani in neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the > > > hell in this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and > > then > > > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable wealth may > > be > > > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best results if > > > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona with kendra lords > > and if > > > alone they giv the results of rasi lord and also nakshatra lord > > > generaly rahu in first half of zodiac gives best results and other > > half > > > is good for ketu It says aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in > > good > > > bhavas good results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi > > > ,happiness in pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and > > > capricon and virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from > > spouse > > > and kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th > > and > > > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who assossiated > > with > > > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa lord in > > their > > > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but if that planets has > > drishti > > > pf good planets and also placed well in chart the bad results are > > > nullified . same is the case of gulika degree lords dasa again if > > good > > > planets are aspecting or guru aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra > > this > > > results cancelles a great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in > > > series and guru dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very > > bad. > > > 27) the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with rahu > > also > > > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra -surya for ladies > > kuja > > > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29)Dasa of ashtama lord is > > bad > > > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30)3/6/11 th lords if they are > > benefics > > > their dasa is supposed to be bad. 31)moon and sun and lagna lord > > has > > > no ashtamadhi pathy dosha. 32)see in which house from dasa lord > > the > > > apahara lord is placed and results also will be according to the > > place > > > ment. 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the > > deed > > > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While > > seeing any > > > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and lagna lord and dasa > > lord and > > > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to the results of dasa also > > transit > > > also plays a good role is making a better or slow results And > > delinating > > > tru various vargas is not mentioned here . ALSO I REQUEST > > SREENADH AND > > > OTHERS TO COMMENT AND COME OUT WITH WORKING EXAMPLES SO AS TO > > BENEFIT > > > GROUP MEMBERS.I AM JUST CHANNELING A DISCUSSION ALL ARE INVITED TO > > > PARTICIPATE regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Hare rama krishna , dear sreenadh ji , actualy it was not a trap but done with an intention that u r enjoying ur software engineering honey mooning and i am jealous of u (lol) So thought of bringing out some calibre in u your astrologicaly sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji!> You said:> ==>> > I request u to analys any one chart and describe it based on > > principles of astrology, which u can do it better than me .> <== > Ooops!! That is a trap! But yes, we will do that taking some chart -> just for the sake of clarity (are we not doing it already?!; I think> what we do in all chart reading is that itself!). > * Let us take any chart (but don't mention whose it is), about which> most of us may know, and provide. > * Take a specific period (Dasa) in that individual's life. > * Let us go through the results that would be predicted and later> compare it with actual results.> > This may serve 2 things. > 1) The weight of previous knowledge contaminating predictions can be> avoided.> 2) The reading would be still prediction rather than a post mortem> analysis.> I request a third party (Srinivas ji, Panditji, Pradeep, Justin or> some one else) to provide a chart. Remember the chart should be of> some one, about the life of whom, all of us know already.> All those who do not know `whose chart it is', will have a go - on> the result predicted for that Dasa, for that individual. Let us try to> know how much astrology helps us in arriving at correct possibilities.> Thus the preconditions are –> • The predictions should be for a particular Vimsottari Dasa period only.> • The references and technique used must be clarified in detail in the> post.> Love,> Sreenadh> > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > > dear sreenadh,> > > > yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of command over laungage i> > realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i planned to write it> > .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys any one chart and> > describe it based on principles of astrology,which u can do it better> > than me .> > > > thanks and regrds> > > > sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > > > > > > , "Sreenadh"> > <sreesog@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunil ji,> > > Thanks for the very good and informative mail. But still I think> > > the question, "Whether good, moderate or bad results should be> > > predicted for a particular Dasa?", which is given much importance in> > > many texts and many methodologies are described for the same (as well> > > summarized in your mail), is of less importance compared to the major> > > question, "What are the results to be predicted for a particular> > > Dasa?", which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many> > > texts that discusses the subject. The question with secondary status> > > (a higher class subject) is given most importance and the question> > > with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is given> > > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is misled!> > > They ask questions and try their level best to determine and talk a> > > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad - results;> > > but pitifully fails to determine "What results should be attributed> > > to that period (Dasa)?"!!! Shouldn't we try to put the record> > > straight?> > > Shouldn't we try to recast the right perspective of -> > > First, identifying the results that should be attributed to that> > > Dasa; and then,> > > Secondly, to identifying to what extend/amount (large, moderate,> > > weak) that results to fructify?> > > Of course for those who don't know the answer to the first> > > question, the answer to the second question (which you to address> > > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But to those who know> > > the answer to the first question, your mail would be a much> > > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would see this point.> > > Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive description of the> > > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second question> > > addressed).> > > Love,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > , "sunil nair"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > > Dear jyothishas and lovers of astrology,> > > >> > > > dasa analysis:-> > > >> > > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well established> > > > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one hour> > > window> > > > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N rao ji they know s> > > 40> > > > kinds of differrent dasas and they collects datas and questions and> > > > answerring it tru applying atleast 4 popular dasas applicable to the> > > > chart and so they r very safe .> > > > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is more> > > > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results accordingly .for> > > this we> > > > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is lagna ,jupiter ,mer> > > > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are making lagna very> > > strong ,if> > > > moon is more strong by above situations we must give importance to> > > > moon.And take moon sign as lagna. some says till 30 years lagna> > > then> > > > upto 60 moon and later years sun shud also be treated as lagna and> > > shud> > > > say the results ,but i am not favring that as lagna is smallest> > > unit and> > > > happening within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna> > > should> > > > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless previous> > > > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in> > > > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and moon> > > in end> > > > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which ever results> > > signified> > > > it by it will be giving but this is only a general statement.> > > > Depending on the positions and bhavas the palnets will giv various> > > > results . fro eg - we can take some one has jupiter in 2nd> > > house ,in one> > > > chart its in dhanu rasi and in another chart its in makar rasi ,so> > > in> > > > both charts jupiter is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa> > > > ,apahara(sub periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart> > > its 2nd> > > > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart the> > > lagna> > > > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no cancellation s of> > > > neechatwa the effect will be bad also .Even though its dasa of lagna> > > > lord . so i am trying to formulate some of the principles which> > > can> > > > be useful in seeing a dasa and results> > > > ------------------------------> > > 1) see> > > > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed and see> > > its> > > > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya stiti ( normal> > > > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in ashta varga for this> > > > planet ,positioned in favrable places like 10th ,11th,or lagna ,also> > > > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas this r generaly considered> > > good.> > > > 2)gulika lord ship (dispositor of gulika --according to kerala> > > > sampradaya) ,assossiation with gulika ,less points in ashta varga> > > > ,sastru khsetra stithi ,neecha stithi ,combust ,yoga with> > > malefics,rasi> > > > santhi,and bhava santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if> > > > positioned in upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be> > > > good ,not the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and> > > well> > > > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled only in> > > > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or> > > benefics if> > > > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions with> > > ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra> > > > kshetra stithi and if aspected by benefics or palced also in benefic> > > > vargas the planets will giv good results 6)If dasa lord is> > > strong and> > > > and frnd of lagna lord good and favrable results can be expected .> > > > 7)but if enmy of lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa> > > > will be highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with> > > a> > > > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics will> > > giv bad> > > > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa lord is benefic or> > > > functional benefic if well placed with strenght will giv good> > > results> > > > and mafefic or functional malefics ill placed and weak will giv bad> > > > results . 10) if the planet is placed in sheershodaya sign it may> > > giv> > > > results in begining .and prishtodaya sign it will giv results in> > > end and> > > > if in ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad> > > results .> > > > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are sheershodaya(rising> > > with> > > > head signs) and aries ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are> > > > prishtodaya signs (rising with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya> > > sign> > > > ( rising with both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if> > > he is> > > > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced for> > > higher> > > > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg --mercury is> > > 6th> > > > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if placed in virgo ,ucha rasi he> > > will> > > > be the best among dasas. 12)It says 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords> > > from> > > > janma nakshatra adhi pathy order will be supposed to be best> > > dasas> > > > 13) if 3rd house or 12th house and any weak planets are situated his> > > > dasa apahara ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics> > > then it> > > > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi (begining> > > or> > > > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble> > > some ,sorrows ,pains ,deseases> > > > and various mishappes may be possible and if the planets is in 30 th> > > > degree its very dangerous may be it can cause death also. 15) The> > > > planet positioned with rahu and and dispositor of sign were rahu> > > > paositioned cannot deliver good results of them and rahu will> > > deliver> > > > that results. 16) planets positioned in purticular nashatra will> > > aslo> > > > give the results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna> > > more> > > > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub period> > > of> > > > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord or who is> > > > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in weak> > > position in> > > > rasi of malefic planets or houses such period will be also trouble> > > some.> > > > 18) where ever malefic planets are positioned they give results> > > > according to its bhava in frst 1/3 rd of dasa and then rasi phala> > > next> > > > 1/3 and then according to planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of> > > > those palnets. 19) if any planet has got any malefics from 4th> > > house> > > > its position during his dasa some problems regding property is> > > possible.> > > > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa its> > > rasi> > > > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of the results> > > will be> > > > given to aspects and conjns of various planets. 21)If benefic and> > > > malefic is sitting together the dasa of benefic will be bad and> > > malefic> > > > will be good . 22) any planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka> > > in> > > > neecha he cannot giv good results and if everse it will giv best> > > results> > > > . a)if sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to> > > > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same sun> > > > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and> > > happyness> > > > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in end of the dasa b)> > > Moon> > > > also same results mentioned above but welfare of mother shud be> > > seen .> > > > c)mars -if neechamsaka --bad for brothers and kids and property> > > > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi labham ,dhana labham along with happyness> > > from> > > > brothers . d)budha is neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of> > > > intelligence ,and also our actions will be judged very badly .> > > > uchamsaka can giv first bad then good positions and experiences> > > e) jup> > > > in neechamsaka --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every> > > body> > > > ,even our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka> > > > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in education> > > and> > > > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse and> > > problems> > > > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of luck ,less money ,and> > > change> > > > is position to fall from position. in uchamsaka - very good> > > comforting> > > > experiences ,good experince regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and> > > wealth> > > > . g) sani in neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the> > > > hell in this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and> > > then> > > > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable wealth may> > > be> > > > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best results if> > > > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona with kendra lords> > > and if> > > > alone they giv the results of rasi lord and also nakshatra lord> > > > generaly rahu in first half of zodiac gives best results and other> > > half> > > > is good for ketu It says aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in> > > good> > > > bhavas good results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi> > > > ,happiness in pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and> > > > capricon and virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from> > > spouse> > > > and kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th> > > and> > > > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who assossiated> > > with> > > > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa lord in> > > their> > > > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but if that planets has> > > drishti> > > > pf good planets and also placed well in chart the bad results are> > > > nullified . same is the case of gulika degree lords dasa again if> > > good> > > > planets are aspecting or guru aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra> > > this> > > > results cancelles a great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in> > > > series and guru dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very> > > bad.> > > > 27) the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with rahu> > > also> > > > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra -surya for ladies> > > kuja> > > > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29)Dasa of ashtama lord is> > > bad> > > > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30)3/6/11 th lords if they are> > > benefics> > > > their dasa is supposed to be bad. 31)moon and sun and lagna lord> > > has> > > > no ashtamadhi pathy dosha. 32)see in which house from dasa lord> > > the> > > > apahara lord is placed and results also will be according to the> > > place> > > > ment. 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the> > > deed> > > > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While> > > seeing any> > > > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and lagna lord and dasa> > > lord and> > > > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to the results of dasa also> > > transit> > > > also plays a good role is making a better or slow results And> > > delinating> > > > tru various vargas is not mentioned here . ALSO I REQUEST> > > SREENADH AND> > > > OTHERS TO COMMENT AND COME OUT WITH WORKING EXAMPLES SO AS TO> > > BENEFIT> > > > GROUP MEMBERS.I AM JUST CHANNELING A DISCUSSION ALL ARE INVITED TO> > > > PARTICIPATE regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Dear Sreenadhji, Yes, that would be a good idea. A student like me can sharpen my skills. I can provide the data of a horoscope for analysis. Date of birth - 20-06-1979 Boy Time of birth - 6.30 p.m. Place of birth - Palghat I rather familiar with all the events in his life. Regards Ravi Nair From: sreesogDate: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 09:39:11 +0000 Re: Vimshottarry dasa analysis Dear Sunil ji!You said:==>> I request u to analys any one chart and describe it based on > principles of astrology, which u can do it better than me .<== Ooops!! That is a trap! But yes, we will do that taking some chart -just for the sake of clarity (are we not doing it already?!; I thinkwhat we do in all chart reading is that itself!). * Let us take any chart (but don't mention whose it is), about whichmost of us may know, and provide. * Take a specific period (Dasa) in that individual's life. * Let us go through the results that would be predicted and latercompare it with actual results.This may serve 2 things. 1) The weight of previous knowledge contaminating predictions can beavoided.2) The reading would be still prediction rather than a post mortemanalysis.I request a third party (Srinivas ji, Panditji, Pradeep, Justin orsome one else) to provide a chart. Remember the chart should be ofsome one, about the life of whom, all of us know already.All those who do not know `whose chart it is', will have a go - onthe result predicted for that Dasa, for that individual. Let us try toknow how much astrology helps us in arriving at correct possibilities.Thus the preconditions are –• The predictions should be for a particular Vimsottari Dasa period only.• The references and technique used must be clarified in detail in thepost.Love,Sreenadh , "sunil nair"<astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > Hare ramakrishna,> > dear sreenadh,> > yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of command over laungage i> realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i planned to write it> .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys any one chart and> describe it based on principles of astrology,which u can do it better> than me .> > thanks and regrds> > sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > , "Sreenadh"> <sreesog@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Thanks for the very good and informative mail. But still I think> > the question, "Whether good, moderate or bad results should be> > predicted for a particular Dasa?", which is given much importance in> > many texts and many methodologies are described for the same (as well> > summarized in your mail), is of less importance compared to the major> > question, "What are the results to be predicted for a particular> > Dasa?", which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many> > texts that discusses the subject. The question with secondary status> > (a higher class subject) is given most importance and the question> > with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is given> > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is misled!> > They ask questions and try their level best to determine and talk a> > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad - results;> > but pitifully fails to determine "What results should be attributed> > to that period (Dasa)?"!!! Shouldn't we try to put the record> > straight?> > Shouldn't we try to recast the right perspective of -> > First, identifying the results that should be attributed to that> > Dasa; and then,> > Secondly, to identifying to what extend/amount (large, moderate,> > weak) that results to fructify?> > Of course for those who don't know the answer to the first> > question, the answer to the second question (which you to address> > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But to those who know> > the answer to the first question, your mail would be a much> > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would see this point.> > Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive description of the> > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second question> > addressed).> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > , "sunil nair"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > Dear jyothishas and lovers of astrology,> > >> > > dasa analysis:-> > >> > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well established> > > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one hour> > window> > > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N rao ji they know s> > 40> > > kinds of differrent dasas and they collects datas and questions and> > > answerring it tru applying atleast 4 popular dasas applicable to the> > > chart and so they r very safe .> > > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is more> > > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results accordingly .for> > this we> > > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is lagna ,jupiter ,mer> > > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are making lagna very> > strong ,if> > > moon is more strong by above situations we must give importance to> > > moon.And take moon sign as lagna. some says till 30 years lagna> > then> > > upto 60 moon and later years sun shud also be treated as lagna and> > shud> > > say the results ,but i am not favring that as lagna is smallest> > unit and> > > happening within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna> > should> > > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless previous> > > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in> > > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and moon> > in end> > > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which ever results> > signified> > > it by it will be giving but this is only a general statement.> > > Depending on the positions and bhavas the palnets will giv various> > > results . fro eg - we can take some one has jupiter in 2nd> > house ,in one> > > chart its in dhanu rasi and in another chart its in makar rasi ,so> > in> > > both charts jupiter is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa> > > ,apahara(sub periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart> > its 2nd> > > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart the> > lagna> > > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no cancellation s of> > > neechatwa the effect will be bad also .Even though its dasa of lagna> > > lord . so i am trying to formulate some of the principles which> > can> > > be useful in seeing a dasa and results> > > -------------------------> > 1) see> > > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed and see> > its> > > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya stiti ( normal> > > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in ashta varga for this> > > planet ,positioned in favrable places like 10th ,11th,or lagna ,also> > > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas this r generaly considered> > good.> > > 2)gulika lord ship (dispositor of gulika --according to kerala> > > sampradaya) ,assossiation with gulika ,less points in ashta varga> > > ,sastru khsetra stithi ,neecha stithi ,combust ,yoga with> > malefics,rasi> > > santhi,and bhava santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if> > > positioned in upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be> > > good ,not the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and> > well> > > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled only in> > > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or> > benefics if> > > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions with> > ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra> > > kshetra stithi and if aspected by benefics or palced also in benefic> > > vargas the planets will giv good results 6)If dasa lord is> > strong and> > > and frnd of lagna lord good and favrable results can be expected .> > > 7)but if enmy of lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa> > > will be highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with> > a> > > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics will> > giv bad> > > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa lord is benefic or> > > functional benefic if well placed with strenght will giv good> > results> > > and mafefic or functional malefics ill placed and weak will giv bad> > > results . 10) if the planet is placed in sheershodaya sign it may> > giv> > > results in begining .and prishtodaya sign it will giv results in> > end and> > > if in ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad> > results .> > > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are sheershodaya(rising> > with> > > head signs) and aries ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are> > > prishtodaya signs (rising with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya> > sign> > > ( rising with both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if> > he is> > > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced for> > higher> > > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg --mercury is> > 6th> > > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if placed in virgo ,ucha rasi he> > will> > > be the best among dasas. 12)It says 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords> > from> > > janma nakshatra adhi pathy order will be supposed to be best> > dasas> > > 13) if 3rd house or 12th house and any weak planets are situated his> > > dasa apahara ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics> > then it> > > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi (begining> > or> > > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble> > some ,sorrows ,pains ,deseases> > > and various mishappes may be possible and if the planets is in 30 th> > > degree its very dangerous may be it can cause death also. 15) The> > > planet positioned with rahu and and dispositor of sign were rahu> > > paositioned cannot deliver good results of them and rahu will> > deliver> > > that results. 16) planets positioned in purticular nashatra will> > aslo> > > give the results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna> > more> > > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub period> > of> > > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord or who is> > > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in weak> > position in> > > rasi of malefic planets or houses such period will be also trouble> > some.> > > 18) where ever malefic planets are positioned they give results> > > according to its bhava in frst 1/3 rd of dasa and then rasi phala> > next> > > 1/3 and then according to planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of> > > those palnets. 19) if any planet has got any malefics from 4th> > house> > > its position during his dasa some problems regding property is> > possible.> > > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa its> > rasi> > > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of the results> > will be> > > given to aspects and conjns of various planets. 21)If benefic and> > > malefic is sitting together the dasa of benefic will be bad and> > malefic> > > will be good . 22) any planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka> > in> > > neecha he cannot giv good results and if everse it will giv best> > results> > > . a)if sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to> > > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same sun> > > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and> > happyness> > > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in end of the dasa b)> > Moon> > > also same results mentioned above but welfare of mother shud be> > seen .> > > c)mars -if neechamsaka --bad for brothers and kids and property> > > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi labham ,dhana labham along with happyness> > from> > > brothers . d)budha is neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of> > > intelligence ,and also our actions will be judged very badly .> > > uchamsaka can giv first bad then good positions and experiences> > e) jup> > > in neechamsaka --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every> > body> > > ,even our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka> > > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in education> > and> > > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse and> > problems> > > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of luck ,less money ,and> > change> > > is position to fall from position. in uchamsaka - very good> > comforting> > > experiences ,good experince regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and> > wealth> > > . g) sani in neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the> > > hell in this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and> > then> > > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable wealth may> > be> > > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best results if> > > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona with kendra lords> > and if> > > alone they giv the results of rasi lord and also nakshatra lord> > > generaly rahu in first half of zodiac gives best results and other> > half> > > is good for ketu It says aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in> > good> > > bhavas good results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi> > > ,happiness in pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and> > > capricon and virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from> > spouse> > > and kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th> > and> > > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who assossiated> > with> > > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa lord in> > their> > > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but if that planets has> > drishti> > > pf good planets and also placed well in chart the bad results are> > > nullified . same is the case of gulika degree lords dasa again if> > good> > > planets are aspecting or guru aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra> > this> > > results cancelles a great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in> > > series and guru dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very> > bad.> > > 27) the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with rahu> > also> > > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra -surya for ladies> > kuja> > > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29)Dasa of ashtama lord is> > bad> > > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30)3/6/11 th lords if they are> > benefics> > > their dasa is supposed to be bad. 31)moon and sun and lagna lord> > has> > > no ashtamadhi pathy dosha. 32)see in which house from dasa lord> > the> > > apahara lord is placed and results also will be according to the> > place> > > ment. 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the> > deed> > > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While> > seeing any> > > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and lagna lord and dasa> > lord and> > > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to the results of dasa also> > transit> > > also plays a good role is making a better or slow results And> > delinating> > > tru various vargas is not mentioned here . ALSO I REQUEST> > SREENADH AND> > > OTHERS TO COMMENT AND COME OUT WITH WORKING EXAMPLES SO AS TO> > BENEFIT> > > GROUP MEMBERS.I AM JUST CHANNELING A DISCUSSION ALL ARE INVITED TO> > > PARTICIPATE regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > >> >> Explore the seven wonders of the world Learn more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 hare rama krishna dear ravi ji , Why dont u specify a dasa period for analysing as its a learning exercise and not predictions . Thanks for participating regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , "A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13 wrote:>> > Dear Sreenadhji,> > Yes, that would be a good idea. A student like me can sharpen my skills. I can provide the data of a horoscope for analysis.> > Date of birth - 20-06-1979 Boy> Time of birth - 6.30 p.m.> Place of birth - Palghat> > I rather familiar with all the events in his life.> > Regards> > Ravi Nair> > > > > > : sreesog: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 09:39:11 +0000 Re: Vimshottarry dasa analysis> > > > > Dear Sunil ji!You said:==>> I request u to analys any one chart and describe it based on > principles of astrology, which u can do it better than me .<== Ooops!! That is a trap! But yes, we will do that taking some chart -just for the sake of clarity (are we not doing it already?!; I thinkwhat we do in all chart reading is that itself!). * Let us take any chart (but don't mention whose it is), about whichmost of us may know, and provide. * Take a specific period (Dasa) in that individual's life. * Let us go through the results that would be predicted and latercompare it with actual results.This may serve 2 things. 1) The weight of previous knowledge contaminating predictions can beavoided.2) The reading would be still prediction rather than a post mortemanalysis.I request a third party (Srinivas ji, Panditji, Pradeep, Justin orsome one else) to provide a chart. Remember the chart should be ofsome one, about the life of whom, all of us know already.All those who do not know `whose chart it is', will have a go - onthe result predicted for that Dasa, for that individual. Let us try toknow how much astrology helps us in arriving at correct possibilities.Thus the preconditions are –• The predictions should be for a particular Vimsottari Dasa period only.• The references and technique used must be clarified in detail in thepost.Love,Sreenadh , "sunil nair"astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:>> > Hare ramakrishna,> > dear sreenadh,> > yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of command over laungage i> realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i planned to write it> .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys any one chart and> describe it based on principles of astrology,which u can do it better> than me .> > thanks and regrds> > sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > , "Sreenadh"> <sreesog@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Thanks for the very good and informative mail. But still I think> > the question, "Whether good, moderate or bad results should be> > predicted for a particular Dasa?", which is given much importance in> > many texts and many methodologies are described for the same (as well> > summarized in your mail), is of less importance compared to the major> > question, "What are the results to be predicted for a particular> > Dasa?", which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many> > texts that discusses the subject. The question with secondary status> > (a higher class subject) is given most importance and the question> > with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is given> > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is misled!> > They ask questions and try their level best to determine and talk a> > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad - results;> > but pitifully fails to determine "What results should be attributed> > to that period (Dasa)?"!!! Shouldn't we try to put the record> > straight?> > Shouldn't we try to recast the right perspective of -> > First, identifying the results that should be attributed to that> > Dasa; and then,> > Secondly, to identifying to what extend/amount (large, moderate,> > weak) that results to fructify?> > Of course for those who don't know the answer to the first> > question, the answer to the second question (which you to address> > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But to those who know> > the answer to the first question, your mail would be a much> > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would see this point.> > Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive description of the> > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second question> > addressed).> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > , "sunil nair"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > Dear jyothishas and lovers of astrology,> > >> > > dasa analysis:-> > >> > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well established> > > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one hour> > window> > > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N rao ji they know s> > 40> > > kinds of differrent dasas and they collects datas and questions and> > > answerring it tru applying atleast 4 popular dasas applicable to the> > > chart and so they r very safe .> > > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is more> > > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results accordingly .for> > this we> > > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is lagna ,jupiter ,mer> > > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are making lagna very> > strong ,if> > > moon is more strong by above situations we must give importance to> > > moon.And take moon sign as lagna. some says till 30 years lagna> > then> > > upto 60 moon and later years sun shud also be treated as lagna and> > shud> > > say the results ,but i am not favring that as lagna is smallest> > unit and> > > happening within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna> > should> > > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless previous> > > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in> > > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and moon> > in end> > > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which ever results> > signified> > > it by it will be giving but this is only a general statement.> > > Depending on the positions and bhavas the palnets will giv various> > > results . fro eg - we can take some one has jupiter in 2nd> > house ,in one> > > chart its in dhanu rasi and in another chart its in makar rasi ,so> > in> > > both charts jupiter is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa> > > ,apahara(sub periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart> > its 2nd> > > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart the> > lagna> > > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no cancellation s of> > > neechatwa the effect will be bad also .Even though its dasa of lagna> > > lord . so i am trying to formulate some of the principles which> > can> > > be useful in seeing a dasa and results> > > -------------------------> > 1) see> > > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed and see> > its> > > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya stiti ( normal> > > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in ashta varga for this> > > planet ,positioned in favrable places like 10th ,11th,or lagna ,also> > > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas this r generaly considered> > good.> > > 2)gulika lord ship (dispositor of gulika --according to kerala> > > sampradaya) ,assossiation with gulika ,less points in ashta varga> > > ,sastru khsetra stithi ,neecha stithi ,combust ,yoga with> > malefics,rasi> > > santhi,and bhava santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if> > > positioned in upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be> > > good ,not the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and> > well> > > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled only in> > > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or> > benefics if> > > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions with> > ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra> > > kshetra stithi and if aspected by benefics or palced also in benefic> > > vargas the planets will giv good results 6)If dasa lord is> > strong and> > > and frnd of lagna lord good and favrable results can be expected .> > > 7)but if enmy of lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa> > > will be highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with> > a> > > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics will> > giv bad> > > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa lord is benefic or> > > functional benefic if well placed with strenght will giv good> > results> > > and mafefic or functional malefics ill placed and weak will giv bad> > > results . 10) if the planet is placed in sheershodaya sign it may> > giv> > > results in begining .and prishtodaya sign it will giv results in> > end and> > > if in ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad> > results .> > > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are sheershodaya(rising> > with> > > head signs) and aries ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are> > > prishtodaya signs (rising with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya> > sign> > > ( rising with both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if> > he is> > > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced for> > higher> > > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg --mercury is> > 6th> > > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if placed in virgo ,ucha rasi he> > will> > > be the best among dasas. 12)It says 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords> > from> > > janma nakshatra adhi pathy order will be supposed to be best> > dasas> > > 13) if 3rd house or 12th house and any weak planets are situated his> > > dasa apahara ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics> > then it> > > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi (begining> > or> > > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble> > some ,sorrows ,pains ,deseases> > > and various mishappes may be possible and if the planets is in 30 th> > > degree its very dangerous may be it can cause death also. 15) The> > > planet positioned with rahu and and dispositor of sign were rahu> > > paositioned cannot deliver good results of them and rahu will> > deliver> > > that results. 16) planets positioned in purticular nashatra will> > aslo> > > give the results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna> > more> > > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub period> > of> > > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord or who is> > > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in weak> > position in> > > rasi of malefic planets or houses such period will be also trouble> > some.> > > 18) where ever malefic planets are positioned they give results> > > according to its bhava in frst 1/3 rd of dasa and then rasi phala> > next> > > 1/3 and then according to planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of> > > those palnets. 19) if any planet has got any malefics from 4th> > house> > > its position during his dasa some problems regding property is> > possible.> > > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa its> > rasi> > > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of the results> > will be> > > given to aspects and conjns of various planets. 21)If benefic and> > > malefic is sitting together the dasa of benefic will be bad and> > malefic> > > will be good . 22) any planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka> > in> > > neecha he cannot giv good results and if everse it will giv best> > results> > > . a)if sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to> > > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same sun> > > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and> > happyness> > > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in end of the dasa b)> > Moon> > > also same results mentioned above but welfare of mother shud be> > seen .> > > c)mars -if neechamsaka --bad for brothers and kids and property> > > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi labham ,dhana labham along with happyness> > from> > > brothers . d)budha is neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of> > > intelligence ,and also our actions will be judged very badly .> > > uchamsaka can giv first bad then good positions and experiences> > e) jup> > > in neechamsaka --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every> > body> > > ,even our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka> > > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in education> > and> > > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse and> > problems> > > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of luck ,less money ,and> > change> > > is position to fall from position. in uchamsaka - very good> > comforting> > > experiences ,good experince regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and> > wealth> > > . g) sani in neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the> > > hell in this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and> > then> > > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable wealth may> > be> > > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best results if> > > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona with kendra lords> > and if> > > alone they giv the results of rasi lord and also nakshatra lord> > > generaly rahu in first half of zodiac gives best results and other> > half> > > is good for ketu It says aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in> > good> > > bhavas good results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi> > > ,happiness in pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and> > > capricon and virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from> > spouse> > > and kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th> > and> > > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who assossiated> > with> > > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa lord in> > their> > > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but if that planets has> > drishti> > > pf good planets and also placed well in chart the bad results are> > > nullified . same is the case of gulika degree lords dasa again if> > good> > > planets are aspecting or guru aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra> > this> > > results cancelles a great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in> > > series and guru dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very> > bad.> > > 27) the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with rahu> > also> > > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra -surya for ladies> > kuja> > > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29)Dasa of ashtama lord is> > bad> > > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30)3/6/11 th lords if they are> > benefics> > > their dasa is supposed to be bad. 31)moon and sun and lagna lord> > has> > > no ashtamadhi pathy dosha. 32)see in which house from dasa lord> > the> > > apahara lord is placed and results also will be according to the> > place> > > ment. 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the> > deed> > > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While> > seeing any> > > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and lagna lord and dasa> > lord and> > > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to the results of dasa also> > transit> > > also plays a good role is making a better or slow results And> > delinating> > > tru various vargas is not mentioned here . ALSO I REQUEST> > SREENADH AND> > > OTHERS TO COMMENT AND COME OUT WITH WORKING EXAMPLES SO AS TO> > BENEFIT> > > GROUP MEMBERS.I AM JUST CHANNELING A DISCUSSION ALL ARE INVITED TO> > > PARTICIPATE regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > >> >> > > > > > > > _______________> Explore the seven wonders of the world> http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world & mkt=en-US & form=QBRE> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Dear Sunilji, Yes, that would be a good idea. The dasa period for analysis is Moon-Venus, from 28-02-2007 to 01-11-2008. Regards Ravi Nair From: astro_tellerkeralaDate: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 03:32:11 +0000 Re: Vimshottarry dasa analysis hare rama krishna dear ravi ji , Why dont u specify a dasa period for analysing as its a learning exercise and not predictions . Thanks for participating regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , "A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13 wrote:>> > Dear Sreenadhji,> > Yes, that would be a good idea. A student like me can sharpen my skills. I can provide the data of a horoscope for analysis.> > Date of birth - 20-06-1979 Boy> Time of birth - 6.30 p.m.> Place of birth - Palghat> > I rather familiar with all the events in his life.> > Regards> > Ravi Nair> > > > > > : sreesog: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 09:39:11 +0000 Re: Vimshottarry dasa analysis> > > > > Dear Sunil ji!You said:==>> I request u to analys any one chart and describe it based on > principles of astrology, which u can do it better than me .<== Ooops!! That is a trap! But yes, we will do that taking some chart -just for the sake of clarity (are we not doing it already?!; I thinkwhat we do in all chart reading is that itself!). * Let us take any chart (but don't mention whose it is), about whichmost of us may know, and provide. * Take a specific period (Dasa) in that individual's life. * Let us go through the results that would be predicted and latercompare it with actual results.This may serve 2 things. 1) The weight of previous knowledge contaminating predictions can beavoided.2) The reading would be still prediction rather than a post mortemanalysis.I request a third party (Srinivas ji, Panditji, Pradeep, Justin orsome one else) to provide a chart. Remember the chart should be ofsome one, about the life of whom, all of us know already.All those who do not know `whose chart it is', will have a go - onthe result predicted for that Dasa, for that individual. Let us try toknow how much astrology helps us in arriving at correct possibilities.Thus the preconditions are –• The predictions should be for a particular Vimsottari Dasa period only.• The references and technique used must be clarified in detail in thepost.Love,Sreenadh , "sunil nair"astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:>> > Hare ramakrishna,> > dear sreenadh,> > yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of command over laungage i> realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i planned to write it> .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys any one chart and> describe it based on principles of astrology,which u can do it better> than me .> > thanks and regrds> > sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > , "Sreenadh"> <sreesog@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Thanks for the very good and informative mail. But still I think> > the question, "Whether good, moderate or bad results should be> > predicted for a particular Dasa?", which is given much importance in> > many texts and many methodologies are described for the same (as well> > summarized in your mail), is of less importance compared to the major> > question, "What are the results to be predicted for a particular> > Dasa?", which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many> > texts that discusses the subject. The question with secondary status> > (a higher class subject) is given most importance and the question> > with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is given> > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is misled!> > They ask questions and try their level best to determine and talk a> > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad - results;> > but pitifully fails to determine "What results should be attributed> > to that period (Dasa)?"!!! Shouldn't we try to put the record> > straight?> > Shouldn't we try to recast the right perspective of -> > First, identifying the results that should be attributed to that> > Dasa; and then,> > Secondly, to identifying to what extend/amount (large, moderate,> > weak) that results to fructify?> > Of course for those who don't know the answer to the first> > question, the answer to the second question (which you to address> > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But to those who know> > the answer to the first question, your mail would be a much> > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would see this point.> > Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive description of the> > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second question> > addressed).> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > , "sunil nair"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > Dear jyothishas and lovers of astrology,> > >> > > dasa analysis:-> > >> > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well established> > > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one hour> > window> > > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N rao ji they know s> > 40> > > kinds of differrent dasas and they collects datas and questions and> > > answerring it tru applying atleast 4 popular dasas applicable to the> > > chart and so they r very safe .> > > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is more> > > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results accordingly .for> > this we> > > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is lagna ,jupiter ,mer> > > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are making lagna very> > strong ,if> > > moon is more strong by above situations we must give importance to> > > moon.And take moon sign as lagna. some says till 30 years lagna> > then> > > upto 60 moon and later years sun shud also be treated as lagna and> > shud> > > say the results ,but i am not favring that as lagna is smallest> > unit and> > > happening within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna> > should> > > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless previous> > > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in> > > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and moon> > in end> > > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which ever results> > signified> > > it by it will be giving but this is only a general statement.> > > Depending on the positions and bhavas the palnets will giv various> > > results . fro eg - we can take some one has jupiter in 2nd> > house ,in one> > > chart its in dhanu rasi and in another chart its in makar rasi ,so> > in> > > both charts jupiter is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa> > > ,apahara(sub periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart> > its 2nd> > > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart the> > lagna> > > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no cancellation s of> > > neechatwa the effect will be bad also .Even though its dasa of lagna> > > lord . so i am trying to formulate some of the principles which> > can> > > be useful in seeing a dasa and results> > > -------------------------> > 1) see> > > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed and see> > its> > > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya stiti ( normal> > > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in ashta varga for this> > > planet ,positioned in favrable places like 10th ,11th,or lagna ,also> > > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas this r generaly considered> > good.> > > 2)gulika lord ship (dispositor of gulika --according to kerala> > > sampradaya) ,assossiation with gulika ,less points in ashta varga> > > ,sastru khsetra stithi ,neecha stithi ,combust ,yoga with> > malefics,rasi> > > santhi,and bhava santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if> > > positioned in upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be> > > good ,not the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and> > well> > > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled only in> > > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or> > benefics if> > > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions with> > ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra> > > kshetra stithi and if aspected by benefics or palced also in benefic> > > vargas the planets will giv good results 6)If dasa lord is> > strong and> > > and frnd of lagna lord good and favrable results can be expected .> > > 7)but if enmy of lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa> > > will be highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with> > a> > > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics will> > giv bad> > > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa lord is benefic or> > > functional benefic if well placed with strenght will giv good> > results> > > and mafefic or functional malefics ill placed and weak will giv bad> > > results . 10) if the planet is placed in sheershodaya sign it may> > giv> > > results in begining .and prishtodaya sign it will giv results in> > end and> > > if in ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad> > results .> > > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are sheershodaya(rising> > with> > > head signs) and aries ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are> > > prishtodaya signs (rising with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya> > sign> > > ( rising with both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if> > he is> > > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced for> > higher> > > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg --mercury is> > 6th> > > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if placed in virgo ,ucha rasi he> > will> > > be the best among dasas. 12)It says 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords> > from> > > janma nakshatra adhi pathy order will be supposed to be best> > dasas> > > 13) if 3rd house or 12th house and any weak planets are situated his> > > dasa apahara ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics> > then it> > > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi (begining> > or> > > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble> > some ,sorrows ,pains ,deseases> > > and various mishappes may be possible and if the planets is in 30 th> > > degree its very dangerous may be it can cause death also. 15) The> > > planet positioned with rahu and and dispositor of sign were rahu> > > paositioned cannot deliver good results of them and rahu will> > deliver> > > that results. 16) planets positioned in purticular nashatra will> > aslo> > > give the results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna> > more> > > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub period> > of> > > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord or who is> > > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in weak> > position in> > > rasi of malefic planets or houses such period will be also trouble> > some.> > > 18) where ever malefic planets are positioned they give results> > > according to its bhava in frst 1/3 rd of dasa and then rasi phala> > next> > > 1/3 and then according to planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of> > > those palnets. 19) if any planet has got any malefics from 4th> > house> > > its position during his dasa some problems regding property is> > possible.> > > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa its> > rasi> > > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of the results> > will be> > > given to aspects and conjns of various planets. 21)If benefic and> > > malefic is sitting together the dasa of benefic will be bad and> > malefic> > > will be good . 22) any planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka> > in> > > neecha he cannot giv good results and if everse it will giv best> > results> > > . a)if sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to> > > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same sun> > > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and> > happyness> > > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in end of the dasa b)> > Moon> > > also same results mentioned above but welfare of mother shud be> > seen .> > > c)mars -if neechamsaka --bad for brothers and kids and property> > > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi labham ,dhana labham along with happyness> > from> > > brothers . d)budha is neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of> > > intelligence ,and also our actions will be judged very badly .> > > uchamsaka can giv first bad then good positions and experiences> > e) jup> > > in neechamsaka --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every> > body> > > ,even our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka> > > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in education> > and> > > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse and> > problems> > > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of luck ,less money ,and> > change> > > is position to fall from position. in uchamsaka - very good> > comforting> > > experiences ,good experince regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and> > wealth> > > . g) sani in neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the> > > hell in this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and> > then> > > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable wealth may> > be> > > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best results if> > > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona with kendra lords> > and if> > > alone they giv the results of rasi lord and also nakshatra lord> > > generaly rahu in first half of zodiac gives best results and other> > half> > > is good for ketu It says aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in> > good> > > bhavas good results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi> > > ,happiness in pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and> > > capricon and virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from> > spouse> > > and kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th> > and> > > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who assossiated> > with> > > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa lord in> > their> > > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but if that planets has> > drishti> > > pf good planets and also placed well in chart the bad results are> > > nullified . same is the case of gulika degree lords dasa again if> > good> > > planets are aspecting or guru aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra> > this> > > results cancelles a great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in> > > series and guru dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very> > bad.> > > 27) the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with rahu> > also> > > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra -surya for ladies> > kuja> > > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29)Dasa of ashtama lord is> > bad> > > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30)3/6/11 th lords if they are> > benefics> > > their dasa is supposed to be bad. 31)moon and sun and lagna lord> > has> > > no ashtamadhi pathy dosha. 32)see in which house from dasa lord> > the> > > apahara lord is placed and results also will be according to the> > place> > > ment. 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the> > deed> > > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While> > seeing any> > > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and lagna lord and dasa> > lord and> > > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to the results of dasa also> > transit> > > also plays a good role is making a better or slow results And> > delinating> > > tru various vargas is not mentioned here . ALSO I REQUEST> > SREENADH AND> > > OTHERS TO COMMENT AND COME OUT WITH WORKING EXAMPLES SO AS TO> > BENEFIT> > > GROUP MEMBERS.I AM JUST CHANNELING A DISCUSSION ALL ARE INVITED TO> > > PARTICIPATE regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > >> >> > > > > > > > _______________> Explore the seven wonders of the world> http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world & mkt=en-US & form=QBRE> Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Dear Ravi ji, That is not enough. Confirm that many of the members of this group would be familiar with the life events of that person. He should be famous/popular due to some reason. If so we can proceed with the same, if not this horoscope won't be selected for the said exercise. Love, Sreenadh , " A. Ravindran Nair " <rain13 wrote: > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > Yes, that would be a good idea. A student like me can sharpen my skills. I can provide the data of a horoscope for analysis. > > Date of birth - 20-06-1979 Boy > Time of birth - 6.30 p.m. > Place of birth - Palghat > > I rather familiar with all the events in his life. > > Regards > > Ravi Nair > > > > > > : sreesog: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 09:39:11 +0000 Re: Vimshottarry dasa analysis > > > > > Dear Sunil ji!You said:==>> I request u to analys any one chart and describe it based on > principles of astrology, which u can do it better than me .<== Ooops!! That is a trap! But yes, we will do that taking some chart -just for the sake of clarity (are we not doing it already?!; I thinkwhat we do in all chart reading is that itself!). * Let us take any chart (but don't mention whose it is), about whichmost of us may know, and provide. * Take a specific period (Dasa) in that individual's life. * Let us go through the results that would be predicted and latercompare it with actual results.This may serve 2 things. 1) The weight of previous knowledge contaminating predictions can beavoided.2) The reading would be still prediction rather than a post mortemanalysis.I request a third party (Srinivas ji, Panditji, Pradeep, Justin orsome one else) to provide a chart. Remember the chart should be ofsome one, about the life of whom, all of us know already.All those who do not know `whose chart it is', will have a go - onthe result predicted for that Dasa, for that individual. Let us try toknow how much astrology helps us in arriving at correct possibilities.Thus the preconditions are –• The predictions should be for a particular Vimsottari Dasa period only.• The references and technique used must be clarified in detail in thepost.Love,Sreenadh--- In , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:>> > Hare ramakrishna,> > dear sreenadh,> > yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of command over laungage i> realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i planned to write it> .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys any one chart and> describe it based on principles of astrology,which u can do it better> than me .> > thanks and regrds> > sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > --- In , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Thanks for the very good and informative mail. But still I think> > the question, " Whether good, moderate or bad results should be> > predicted for a particular Dasa? " , which is given much importance in> > many texts and many methodologies are described for the same (as well> > summarized in your mail), is of less importance compared to the major> > question, " What are the results to be predicted for a particular> > Dasa? " , which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many> > texts that discusses the subject. The question with secondary status> > (a higher class subject) is given most importance and the question> > with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is given> > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is misled!> > They ask questions and try their level best to determine and talk a> > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad - results;> > but pitifully fails to determine " What results should be attributed> > to that period (Dasa)? " !!! Shouldn't we try to put the record> > straight?> > Shouldn't we try to recast the right perspective of -> > First, identifying the results that should be attributed to that> > Dasa; and then,> > Secondly, to identifying to what extend/amount (large, moderate,> > weak) that results to fructify?> > Of course for those who don't know the answer to the first> > question, the answer to the second question (which you to address> > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But to those who know> > the answer to the first question, your mail would be a much> > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would see this point.> > Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive description of the> > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second question> > addressed).> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > --- In , " sunil nair " > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > Dear jyothishas and lovers of astrology,> > >> > > dasa analysis:-> > >> > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well established> > > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one hour> > window> > > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N rao ji they know s> > 40> > > kinds of differrent dasas and they collects datas and questions and> > > answerring it tru applying atleast 4 popular dasas applicable to the> > > chart and so they r very safe .> > > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is more> > > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results accordingly .for> > this we> > > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is lagna ,jupiter ,mer> > > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are making lagna very> > strong ,if> > > moon is more strong by above situations we must give importance to> > > moon.And take moon sign as lagna. some says till 30 years lagna> > then> > > upto 60 moon and later years sun shud also be treated as lagna and> > shud> > > say the results ,but i am not favring that as lagna is smallest> > unit and> > > happening within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna> > should> > > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless previous> > > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in> > > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and moon> > in end> > > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which ever results> > signified> > > it by it will be giving but this is only a general statement.> > > Depending on the positions and bhavas the palnets will giv various> > > results . fro eg - we can take some one has jupiter in 2nd> > house ,in one> > > chart its in dhanu rasi and in another chart its in makar rasi ,so> > in> > > both charts jupiter is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa> > > ,apahara(sub periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart> > its 2nd> > > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart the> > lagna> > > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no cancellation s of> > > neechatwa the effect will be bad also .Even though its dasa of lagna> > > lord . so i am trying to formulate some of the principles which> > can> > > be useful in seeing a dasa and results> > > -------------------------> > 1) see> > > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed and see> > its> > > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya stiti ( normal> > > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in ashta varga for this> > > planet ,positioned in favrable places like 10th ,11th,or lagna ,also> > > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas this r generaly considered> > good.> > > 2)gulika lord ship (dispositor of gulika --according to kerala> > > sampradaya) ,assossiation with gulika ,less points in ashta varga> > > ,sastru khsetra stithi ,neecha stithi ,combust ,yoga with> > malefics,rasi> > > santhi,and bhava santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if> > > positioned in upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be> > > good ,not the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and> > well> > > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled only in> > > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or> > benefics if> > > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions with> > ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra> > > kshetra stithi and if aspected by benefics or palced also in benefic> > > vargas the planets will giv good results 6)If dasa lord is> > strong and> > > and frnd of lagna lord good and favrable results can be expected .> > > 7)but if enmy of lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa> > > will be highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with> > a> > > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics will> > giv bad> > > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa lord is benefic or> > > functional benefic if well placed with strenght will giv good> > results> > > and mafefic or functional malefics ill placed and weak will giv bad> > > results . 10) if the planet is placed in sheershodaya sign it may> > giv> > > results in begining .and prishtodaya sign it will giv results in> > end and> > > if in ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad> > results .> > > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are sheershodaya(rising> > with> > > head signs) and aries ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are> > > prishtodaya signs (rising with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya> > sign> > > ( rising with both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if> > he is> > > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced for> > higher> > > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg --mercury is> > 6th> > > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if placed in virgo ,ucha rasi he> > will> > > be the best among dasas. 12)It says 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords> > from> > > janma nakshatra adhi pathy order will be supposed to be best> > dasas> > > 13) if 3rd house or 12th house and any weak planets are situated his> > > dasa apahara ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics> > then it> > > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi (begining> > or> > > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble> > some ,sorrows ,pains ,deseases> > > and various mishappes may be possible and if the planets is in 30 th> > > degree its very dangerous may be it can cause death also. 15) The> > > planet positioned with rahu and and dispositor of sign were rahu> > > paositioned cannot deliver good results of them and rahu will> > deliver> > > that results. 16) planets positioned in purticular nashatra will> > aslo> > > give the results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna> > more> > > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub period> > of> > > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord or who is> > > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in weak> > position in> > > rasi of malefic planets or houses such period will be also trouble> > some.> > > 18) where ever malefic planets are positioned they give results> > > according to its bhava in frst 1/3 rd of dasa and then rasi phala> > next> > > 1/3 and then according to planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of> > > those palnets. 19) if any planet has got any malefics from 4th> > house> > > its position during his dasa some problems regding property is> > possible.> > > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa its> > rasi> > > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of the results> > will be> > > given to aspects and conjns of various planets. 21)If benefic and> > > malefic is sitting together the dasa of benefic will be bad and> > malefic> > > will be good . 22) any planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka> > in> > > neecha he cannot giv good results and if everse it will giv best> > results> > > . a)if sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to> > > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same sun> > > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and> > happyness> > > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in end of the dasa b)> > Moon> > > also same results mentioned above but welfare of mother shud be> > seen .> > > c)mars -if neechamsaka --bad for brothers and kids and property> > > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi labham ,dhana labham along with happyness> > from> > > brothers . d)budha is neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of> > > intelligence ,and also our actions will be judged very badly .> > > uchamsaka can giv first bad then good positions and experiences> > e) jup> > > in neechamsaka --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every> > body> > > ,even our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka> > > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in education> > and> > > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse and> > problems> > > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of luck ,less money ,and> > change> > > is position to fall from position. in uchamsaka - very good> > comforting> > > experiences ,good experince regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and> > wealth> > > . g) sani in neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the> > > hell in this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and> > then> > > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable wealth may> > be> > > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best results if> > > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona with kendra lords> > and if> > > alone they giv the results of rasi lord and also nakshatra lord> > > generaly rahu in first half of zodiac gives best results and other> > half> > > is good for ketu It says aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in> > good> > > bhavas good results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi> > > ,happiness in pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and> > > capricon and virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from> > spouse> > > and kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th> > and> > > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who assossiated> > with> > > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa lord in> > their> > > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but if that planets has> > drishti> > > pf good planets and also placed well in chart the bad results are> > > nullified . same is the case of gulika degree lords dasa again if> > good> > > planets are aspecting or guru aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra> > this> > > results cancelles a great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in> > > series and guru dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very> > bad.> > > 27) the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with rahu> > also> > > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra -surya for ladies> > kuja> > > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29)Dasa of ashtama lord is> > bad> > > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30)3/6/11 th lords if they are> > benefics> > > their dasa is supposed to be bad. 31)moon and sun and lagna lord> > has> > > no ashtamadhi pathy dosha. 32)see in which house from dasa lord> > the> > > apahara lord is placed and results also will be according to the> > place> > > ment. 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the> > deed> > > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While> > seeing any> > > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and lagna lord and dasa> > lord and> > > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to the results of dasa also> > transit> > > also plays a good role is making a better or slow results And> > delinating> > > tru various vargas is not mentioned here . ALSO I REQUEST> > SREENADH AND> > > OTHERS TO COMMENT AND COME OUT WITH WORKING EXAMPLES SO AS TO> > BENEFIT> > > GROUP MEMBERS.I AM JUST CHANNELING A DISCUSSION ALL ARE INVITED TO> > > PARTICIPATE regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > >> >> _______________ > Explore the seven wonders of the world > http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world & mkt=en-US & form=QBRE > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Dear Sreenadhji, Sincerely speaking, I do not think much people would be knowing this personality. I would leave it to other members to come up with a suitable horoscope. Regards Ravi Nair , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Ravi ji, > That is not enough. Confirm that many of the members of this > group would be familiar with the life events of that person. He should > be famous/popular due to some reason. If so we can proceed with the > same, if not this horoscope won't be selected for the said exercise. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " A. Ravindran Nair " > <rain13@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > Yes, that would be a good idea. A student like me can sharpen my > skills. I can provide the data of a horoscope for analysis. > > > > Date of birth - 20-06-1979 Boy > > Time of birth - 6.30 p.m. > > Place of birth - Palghat > > > > I rather familiar with all the events in his life. > > > > Regards > > > > Ravi Nair > > > > > > > > > > > > @: sreesog@: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 > 09:39:11 +0000 Re: Vimshottarry > dasa analysis > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji!You said:==>> I request u to analys any one chart and > describe it based on > principles of astrology, which u can do it > better than me .<== Ooops!! That is a trap! But yes, we will do that > taking some chart -just for the sake of clarity (are we not doing it > already?!; I thinkwhat we do in all chart reading is that itself!). * > Let us take any chart (but don't mention whose it is), about whichmost > of us may know, and provide. * Take a specific period (Dasa) in that > individual's life. * Let us go through the results that would be > predicted and latercompare it with actual results.This may serve 2 > things. 1) The weight of previous knowledge contaminating predictions > can beavoided.2) The reading would be still prediction rather than a > post mortemanalysis.I request a third party (Srinivas ji, Panditji, > Pradeep, Justin orsome one else) to provide a chart. Remember the > chart should be ofsome one, about the life of whom, all of us know > already.All those who do not know `whose chart it is', will have a go > - onthe result predicted for that Dasa, for that individual. Let us > try toknow how much astrology helps us in arriving at correct > possibilities.Thus the preconditions are –• The predictions should be > for a particular Vimsottari Dasa period only.• The references and > technique used must be clarified in detail in thepost.Love,Sreenadh--- > In , " sunil > nair " <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:>> > Hare ramakrishna,> > dear > sreenadh,> > yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of command over > laungage i> realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i planned to > write it> .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys any one > chart and> describe it based on principles of astrology,which u can do > it better> than me .> > thanks and regrds> > sunil nair> > om shreem > mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > --- In > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Thanks for the very good and > informative mail. But still I think> > the question, " Whether good, > moderate or bad results should be> > predicted for a particular > Dasa? " , which is given much importance in> > many texts and many > methodologies are described for the same (as well> > summarized in > your mail), is of less importance compared to the major> > question, > " What are the results to be predicted for a particular> > Dasa? " , > which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many> > texts > that discusses the subject. The question with secondary status> > (a > higher class subject) is given most importance and the question> > > with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is given> > > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is misled!> > > They ask questions and try their level best to determine and talk a> > > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad - > results;> > but pitifully fails to determine " What results should be > attributed> > to that period (Dasa)? " !!! Shouldn't we try to put the > record> > straight?> > Shouldn't we try to recast the right > perspective of -> > First, identifying the results that should be > attributed to that> > Dasa; and then,> > Secondly, to identifying to > what extend/amount (large, moderate,> > weak) that results to > fructify?> > Of course for those who don't know the answer to the > first> > question, the answer to the second question (which you to > address> > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But to > those who know> > the answer to the first question, your mail would be > a much> > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would see > this point.> > Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive description > of the> > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second question> > > addressed).> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > --- In > , " sunil nair " > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > Dear > jyothishas and lovers of astrology,> > >> > > dasa analysis:-> > >> > > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well established> > > > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one hour> > > window> > > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N rao ji > they know s> > 40> > > kinds of differrent dasas and they collects > datas and questions and> > > answerring it tru applying atleast 4 > popular dasas applicable to the> > > chart and so they r very safe .> > > > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is more> > > > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results accordingly .for> > > this we> > > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is lagna > ,jupiter ,mer> > > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are making > lagna very> > strong ,if> > > moon is more strong by above situations > we must give importance to> > > moon.And take moon sign as lagna. some > says till 30 years lagna> > then> > > upto 60 moon and later years sun > shud also be treated as lagna and> > shud> > > say the results ,but i > am not favring that as lagna is smallest> > unit and> > > happening > within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna> > should> > > > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless previous> > > > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in> > > > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and moon> > > in end> > > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which ever > results> > signified> > > it by it will be giving but this is only a > general statement.> > > Depending on the positions and bhavas the > palnets will giv various> > > results . fro eg - we can take some one > has jupiter in 2nd> > house ,in one> > > chart its in dhanu rasi and > in another chart its in makar rasi ,so> > in> > > both charts jupiter > is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa> > > ,apahara(sub > periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart> > its 2nd> > > > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart the> > > lagna> > > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no > cancellation s of> > > neechatwa the effect will be bad also .Even > though its dasa of lagna> > > lord . so i am trying to formulate some > of the principles which> > can> > > be useful in seeing a dasa and > results> > > > -------------------------> > 1) see> > > > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed and see> > > its> > > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya stiti > ( normal> > > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in ashta > varga for this> > > planet ,positioned in favrable places like 10th > ,11th,or lagna ,also> > > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas this r > generaly considered> > good.> > > 2)gulika lord ship (dispositor of > gulika --according to kerala> > > sampradaya) ,assossiation with > gulika ,less points in ashta varga> > > ,sastru khsetra stithi ,neecha > stithi ,combust ,yoga with> > malefics,rasi> > > santhi,and bhava > santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if> > > positioned in > upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be> > > good ,not > the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and> > well> > > > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled only in> > > > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or> > > benefics if> > > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions with> > > ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra> > > kshetra stithi and if aspected by benefics > or palced also in benefic> > > vargas the planets will giv good > results 6)If dasa lord is> > strong and> > > and frnd of lagna lord > good and favrable results can be expected .> > > 7)but if enmy of > lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa> > > will be > highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with> > a> > > > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics will> > > giv bad> > > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa lord is > benefic or> > > functional benefic if well placed with strenght will > giv good> > results> > > and mafefic or functional malefics ill placed > and weak will giv bad> > > results . 10) if the planet is placed in > sheershodaya sign it may> > giv> > > results in begining .and > prishtodaya sign it will giv results in> > end and> > > if in > ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad> > results .> > > > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are > sheershodaya(rising> > with> > > head signs) and aries > ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are> > > prishtodaya signs (rising > with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya> > sign> > > ( rising with > both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if> > he is> > > > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced for> > > higher> > > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg > --mercury is> > 6th> > > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if placed in > virgo ,ucha rasi he> > will> > > be the best among dasas. 12)It says > 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords> > from> > > janma nakshatra adhi pathy > order will be supposed to be best> > dasas> > > 13) if 3rd house or > 12th house and any weak planets are situated his> > > dasa apahara > ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics> > then it> > > > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi (begining> > > or> > > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble> > some ,sorrows > ,pains ,deseases> > > and various mishappes may be possible and if the > planets is in 30 th> > > degree its very dangerous may be it can cause > death also. 15) The> > > planet positioned with rahu and and > dispositor of sign were rahu> > > paositioned cannot deliver good > results of them and rahu will> > deliver> > > that results. 16) > planets positioned in purticular nashatra will> > aslo> > > give the > results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna> > more> > > > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub period> > > of> > > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord or who > is> > > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in weak> > > position in> > > rasi of malefic planets or houses such period will > be also trouble> > some.> > > 18) where ever malefic planets are > positioned they give results> > > according to its bhava in frst 1/3 > rd of dasa and then rasi phala> > next> > > 1/3 and then according to > planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of> > > those palnets. 19) if > any planet has got any malefics from 4th> > house> > > its position > during his dasa some problems regding property is> > possible.> > > > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa its> > > rasi> > > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of the > results> > will be> > > given to aspects and conjns of various > planets. 21)If benefic and> > > malefic is sitting together the dasa > of benefic will be bad and> > malefic> > > will be good . 22) any > planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka> > in> > > neecha he cannot > giv good results and if everse it will giv best> > results> > > . a)if > sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to> > > > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same sun> > > > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and> > > happyness> > > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in end of > the dasa b)> > Moon> > > also same results mentioned above but welfare > of mother shud be> > seen .> > > c)mars -if neechamsaka --bad for > brothers and kids and property> > > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi labham > ,dhana labham along with happyness> > from> > > brothers . d)budha is > neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of> > > intelligence ,and also our > actions will be judged very badly .> > > uchamsaka can giv first bad > then good positions and experiences> > e) jup> > > in neechamsaka > --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every> > body> > > ,even > our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka> > > > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in education> > > and> > > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse and> > > problems> > > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of luck ,less > money ,and> > change> > > is position to fall from position. in > uchamsaka - very good> > comforting> > > experiences ,good experince > regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and> > wealth> > > . g) sani in > neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the> > > hell in > this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and> > then> > > > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable wealth may> > > be> > > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best > results if> > > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona with > kendra lords> > and if> > > alone they giv the results of rasi lord > and also nakshatra lord> > > generaly rahu in first half of zodiac > gives best results and other> > half> > > is good for ketu It says > aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in> > good> > > bhavas good > results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi> > > ,happiness in > pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and> > > capricon and > virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from> > spouse> > > and > kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th> > and> > > > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who assossiated> > > with> > > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa lord > in> > their> > > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but if that > planets has> > drishti> > > pf good planets and also placed well in > chart the bad results are> > > nullified . same is the case of gulika > degree lords dasa again if> > good> > > planets are aspecting or guru > aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra> > this> > > results cancelles a > great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in> > > series and guru > dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very> > bad.> > > 27) > the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with rahu> > > also> > > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra -surya for > ladies> > kuja> > > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29)Dasa of > ashtama lord is> > bad> > > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30) 3/6/11 th > lords if they are> > benefics> > > their dasa is supposed to be bad. > 31)moon and sun and lagna lord> > has> > > no ashtamadhi pathy dosha. > 32)see in which house from dasa lord> > the> > > apahara lord is > placed and results also will be according to the> > place> > > ment. > 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the> > deed> > > > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While> > > seeing any> > > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and lagna lord > and dasa> > lord and> > > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to the > results of dasa also> > transit> > > also plays a good role is making > a better or slow results And> > delinating> > > tru various vargas is > not mentioned here . ALSO I REQUEST> > SREENADH AND> > > OTHERS TO > COMMENT AND COME OUT WITH WORKING EXAMPLES SO AS TO> > BENEFIT> > > > GROUP MEMBERS.I AM JUST CHANNELING A DISCUSSION ALL ARE INVITED TO> > > > PARTICIPATE regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > Explore the seven wonders of the world > > http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world & mkt=en- US & form=QBRE > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Hi Ravi, Subject born with 01Sag54 (As per Lahiri's ayanamsa) is currently passing through Mn/Ve ---Both Mn & Ve are female planets. Mn, the major period lord is L8 of marital bond, placed in H5 ,that unites couples. Ve, the subperiod ruler , is the planet of conjugal bliss and as L11 of new acquaintance , stationed in Taurus , the 2nd of natural zodiac representing family. In D-9, Ve owns H7 of spouse. As such , the native , if unmarried, will get married in Ve sub period .If already married, this Ve period will give child birth. Alternatively , the Ve period may see the wedding of co-borns, I mean, siblings, if any Further ,there will be a change in job/service Reason ---Sat, L3 of change ,aspect Ve , the subperiod ruler in the birth chart . This aspect, is reonforced by the current Saturn Return . Ve sub period ,runs upto 30Aug,2008, . It is a long way to go .Still out of accademic interest , I am asking you, can you confirm or deny any of my readings , since you know the native very well ? Anticipating your reply Best M Nair , "rain13club" <rain13 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadhji,> > Sincerely speaking, I do not think much people would be knowing this > personality.> > I would leave it to other members to come up with a suitable > horoscope.> > Regards> > Ravi Nair> > > > > , "Sreenadh" > sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Ravi ji,> > That is not enough. Confirm that many of the members of this> > group would be familiar with the life events of that person. He > should> > be famous/popular due to some reason. If so we can proceed with the> > same, if not this horoscope won't be selected for the said > exercise.> > Love,> > Sreenadh> > > > , "A. Ravindran > Nair"> > <rain13@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji,> > > > > > Yes, that would be a good idea. A student like me can sharpen my> > skills. I can provide the data of a horoscope for analysis.> > > > > > Date of birth - 20-06-1979 Boy> > > Time of birth - 6.30 p.m.> > > Place of birth - Palghat> > > > > > I rather familiar with all the events in his life.> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Ravi Nair> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @: sreesog@: Sat, 1 Sep 2007> > 09:39:11 +0000 Re: Vimshottarry> > dasa analysis> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji!You said:==>> I request u to analys any one chart > and> > describe it based on > principles of astrology, which u can do it> > better than me .<== Ooops!! That is a trap! But yes, we will do > that> > taking some chart -just for the sake of clarity (are we not doing > it> > already?!; I thinkwhat we do in all chart reading is that > itself!). *> > Let us take any chart (but don't mention whose it is), about > whichmost> > of us may know, and provide. * Take a specific period (Dasa) in > that> > individual's life. * Let us go through the results that would be> > predicted and latercompare it with actual results.This may serve 2> > things. 1) The weight of previous knowledge contaminating > predictions> > can beavoided.2) The reading would be still prediction rather than > a> > post mortemanalysis.I request a third party (Srinivas ji, Panditji,> > Pradeep, Justin orsome one else) to provide a chart. Remember the> > chart should be ofsome one, about the life of whom, all of us know> > already.All those who do not know `whose chart it is', will have a > go> > - onthe result predicted for that Dasa, for that individual. Let us> > try toknow how much astrology helps us in arriving at correct> > possibilities.Thus the preconditions are –• The predictions should > be> > for a particular Vimsottari Dasa period only.• The references and> > technique used must be clarified in detail in > thepost.Love,Sreenadh---> > In , "sunil> > nair"<astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:>> > Hare ramakrishna,> > dear> > sreenadh,> > yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of command > over> > laungage i> realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i > planned to> > write it> .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys any > one> > chart and> describe it based on principles of astrology,which u > can do> > it better> than me .> > thanks and regrds> > sunil nair> > om > shreem> > mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > --- In> > , "Sreenadh"> <sreesog@>> > wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Thanks for the very good and> > informative mail. But still I think> > the question, "Whether good,> > moderate or bad results should be> > predicted for a particular> > Dasa?", which is given much importance in> > many texts and many> > methodologies are described for the same (as well> > summarized in> > your mail), is of less importance compared to the major> > > question,> > "What are the results to be predicted for a particular> > Dasa?",> > which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many> > > texts> > that discusses the subject. The question with secondary status> > > (a> > higher class subject) is given most importance and the question> >> > with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is > given>> > > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is > misled!>> > > They ask questions and try their level best to determine and > talk a>> > > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad -> > results;> > but pitifully fails to determine "What results should > be> > attributed> > to that period (Dasa)?"!!! Shouldn't we try to put > the> > record> > straight?> > Shouldn't we try to recast the right> > perspective of -> > First, identifying the results that should be> > attributed to that> > Dasa; and then,> > Secondly, to identifying > to> > what extend/amount (large, moderate,> > weak) that results to> > fructify?> > Of course for those who don't know the answer to the> > first> > question, the answer to the second question (which you to> > address> > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But to> > those who know> > the answer to the first question, your mail > would be> > a much> > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would see> > this point.> > Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive > description> > of the> > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second > question>> > > addressed).> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > --- In> > , "sunil nair"> >> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > Dear> > jyothishas and lovers of astrology,> > >> > > dasa analysis:-> > > >> >> > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well > established> >> > > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one hour> > >> > window> > > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N rao ji> > they know s> > 40> > > kinds of differrent dasas and they collects> > datas and questions and> > > answerring it tru applying atleast 4> > popular dasas applicable to the> > > chart and so they r very > safe .>> > > > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is > more> >> > > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results accordingly .for> > >> > this we> > > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is lagna> > ,jupiter ,mer> > > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are making> > lagna very> > strong ,if> > > moon is more strong by above > situations> > we must give importance to> > > moon.And take moon sign as lagna. > some> > says till 30 years lagna> > then> > > upto 60 moon and later years > sun> > shud also be treated as lagna and> > shud> > > say the > results ,but i> > am not favring that as lagna is smallest> > unit and> > > happening> > within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna> > should> > > >> > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless previous> > > >> > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in> > >> > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and moon> > >> > in end> > > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which ever> > results> > signified> > > it by it will be giving but this is only > a> > general statement.> > > Depending on the positions and bhavas the> > palnets will giv various> > > results . fro eg - we can take some > one> > has jupiter in 2nd> > house ,in one> > > chart its in dhanu rasi > and> > in another chart its in makar rasi ,so> > in> > > both charts > jupiter> > is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa> > > ,apahara(sub> > periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart> > its 2nd> > >> > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart > the> >> > lagna> > > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no> > cancellation s of> > > neechatwa the effect will be bad also .Even> > though its dasa of lagna> > > lord . so i am trying to formulate > some> > of the principles which> > can> > > be useful in seeing a dasa and> > results> > >> > -------------------------> > 1) > see>> > > > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed and > see>> > > its> > > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya > stiti> > ( normal> > > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in ashta> > varga for this> > > planet ,positioned in favrable places like 10th> > ,11th,or lagna ,also> > > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas this r> > generaly considered> > good.> > > 2)gulika lord ship (dispositor of> > gulika --according to kerala> > > sampradaya) ,assossiation with> > gulika ,less points in ashta varga> > > ,sastru khsetra > stithi ,neecha> > stithi ,combust ,yoga with> > malefics,rasi> > > santhi,and bhava> > santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if> > > positioned in> > upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be> > > > good ,not> > the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and> > well> > > >> > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled only > in>> > > > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or> >> > benefics if> > > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions with> >> > ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra> > > kshetra stithi and if aspected by > benefics> > or palced also in benefic> > > vargas the planets will giv good> > results 6)If dasa lord is> > strong and> > > and frnd of lagna lord> > good and favrable results can be expected .> > > 7)but if enmy of> > lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa> > > will be> > highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with> > a> > >> > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics will> >> > giv bad> > > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa lord > is> > benefic or> > > functional benefic if well placed with strenght > will> > giv good> > results> > > and mafefic or functional malefics ill > placed> > and weak will giv bad> > > results . 10) if the planet is placed in> > sheershodaya sign it may> > giv> > > results in begining .and> > prishtodaya sign it will giv results in> > end and> > > if in> > ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad> > > results .>> > > > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are> > sheershodaya(rising> > with> > > head signs) and aries> > ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are> > > prishtodaya signs > (rising> > with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya> > sign> > > ( rising with> > both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if> > he is> > >> > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced for> >> > higher> > > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg> > --mercury is> > 6th> > > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if > placed in> > virgo ,ucha rasi he> > will> > > be the best among dasas. 12)It > says> > 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords> > from> > > janma nakshatra adhi > pathy> > order will be supposed to be best> > dasas> > > 13) if 3rd house or> > 12th house and any weak planets are situated his> > > dasa apahara> > ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics> > then it> > >> > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi (begining> >> > or> > > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble> > some ,sorrows> > ,pains ,deseases> > > and various mishappes may be possible and if > the> > planets is in 30 th> > > degree its very dangerous may be it can > cause> > death also. 15) The> > > planet positioned with rahu and and> > dispositor of sign were rahu> > > paositioned cannot deliver good> > results of them and rahu will> > deliver> > > that results. 16)> > planets positioned in purticular nashatra will> > aslo> > > give > the> > results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna> > more> > > >> > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub period> >> > of> > > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord or > who> > is> > > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in > weak>> > > position in> > > rasi of malefic planets or houses such period > will> > be also trouble> > some.> > > 18) where ever malefic planets are> > positioned they give results> > > according to its bhava in frst > 1/3> > rd of dasa and then rasi phala> > next> > > 1/3 and then according > to> > planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of> > > those palnets. 19) > if> > any planet has got any malefics from 4th> > house> > > its position> > during his dasa some problems regding property is> > possible.> > >> > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa its> >> > rasi> > > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of the> > results> > will be> > > given to aspects and conjns of various> > planets. 21)If benefic and> > > malefic is sitting together the > dasa> > of benefic will be bad and> > malefic> > > will be good . 22) any> > planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka> > in> > > neecha he > cannot> > giv good results and if everse it will giv best> > results> > > . > a)if> > sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to> > >> > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same sun> > > >> > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and> >> > happyness> > > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in end of> > the dasa b)> > Moon> > > also same results mentioned above but > welfare> > of mother shud be> > seen .> > > c)mars -if neechamsaka --bad for> > brothers and kids and property> > > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi labham> > ,dhana labham along with happyness> > from> > > brothers . d)budha > is> > neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of> > > intelligence ,and also > our> > actions will be judged very badly .> > > uchamsaka can giv first > bad> > then good positions and experiences> > e) jup> > > in neechamsaka> > --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every> > body> > > > ,even> > our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka> > >> > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in > education> >> > and> > > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse > and> >> > problems> > > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of > luck ,less> > money ,and> > change> > > is position to fall from position. in> > uchamsaka - very good> > comforting> > > experiences ,good > experince> > regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and> > wealth> > > . g) sani in> > neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the> > > hell in> > this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and> > > then> >> > > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable wealth > may>> > > be> > > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best> > results if> > > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona with> > kendra lords> > and if> > > alone they giv the results of rasi lord> > and also nakshatra lord> > > generaly rahu in first half of zodiac> > gives best results and other> > half> > > is good for ketu It says> > aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in> > good> > > bhavas good> > results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi> > > > ,happiness in> > pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and> > > capricon > and> > virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from> > spouse> > > > and> > kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th> > > and> >> > > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who > assossiated> >> > with> > > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa > lord> > in> > their> > > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but if > that> > planets has> > drishti> > > pf good planets and also placed well in> > chart the bad results are> > > nullified . same is the case of > gulika> > degree lords dasa again if> > good> > > planets are aspecting or > guru> > aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra> > this> > > results > cancelles a> > great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in> > > series and guru> > dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very> > bad.> > > 27)> > the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with rahu> >> > also> > > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra -surya > for> > ladies> > kuja> > > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29)Dasa > of> > ashtama lord is> > bad> > > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30)> 3/6/11 th> > lords if they are> > benefics> > > their dasa is supposed to be > bad.> > 31)moon and sun and lagna lord> > has> > > no ashtamadhi pathy > dosha.> > 32)see in which house from dasa lord> > the> > > apahara lord is> > placed and results also will be according to the> > place> > > > ment.> > 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the> > > deed> >> > > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While> >> > seeing any> > > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and lagna > lord> > and dasa> > lord and> > > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to the> > results of dasa also> > transit> > > also plays a good role is > making> > a better or slow results And> > delinating> > > tru various vargas > is> > not mentioned here . ALSO I REQUEST> > SREENADH AND> > > OTHERS TO> > COMMENT AND COME OUT WITH WORKING EXAMPLES SO AS TO> > BENEFIT> > >> > GROUP MEMBERS.I AM JUST CHANNELING A DISCUSSION ALL ARE INVITED > TO> >> > > PARTICIPATE regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________> > > Explore the seven wonders of the world> > > http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world & mkt=en-> US & form=QBRE> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Namaste Sreenadhji May I suggest otherwise? Most people can give lots of different reasons as to why certain events occur during certain Dasha periods which can be true as No single cause can always be attributed to it ie something can occur due to Dasha’s/Transits etc … Note there is also a “saying” that each Maha Dasha should only be evaluated after seeing the “Prashna” for the moment of the change in Dasha ….. Wouldn’t it be better to study an “unknown” chart to test the “reading” ability of Dasha’s etc? Thanks and hoping comments taken in a positive sense? Jai Sita Ram Ram On Behalf Of Sreenadh 02 September 2007 08:48 To: Subject: Re: Vimshottarry dasa analysis Dear Ravi ji, That is not enough. Confirm that many of the members of this group would be familiar with the life events of that person. He should be famous/popular due to some reason. If so we can proceed with the same, if not this horoscope won't be selected for the said exercise. Love, Sreenadh , " A. Ravindran Nair " <rain13 wrote: > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > Yes, that would be a good idea. A student like me can sharpen my skills. I can provide the data of a horoscope for analysis. > > Date of birth - 20-06-1979 Boy > Time of birth - 6.30 p.m. > Place of birth - Palghat > > I rather familiar with all the events in his life. > > Regards > > Ravi Nair > > > > > > : sreesog: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 09:39:11 +0000 Re: Vimshottarry dasa analysis > > > > > Dear Sunil ji!You said:==>> I request u to analys any one chart and describe it based on > principles of astrology, which u can do it better than me .<== Ooops!! That is a trap! But yes, we will do that taking some chart -just for the sake of clarity (are we not doing it already?!; I thinkwhat we do in all chart reading is that itself!). * Let us take any chart (but don't mention whose it is), about whichmost of us may know, and provide. * Take a specific period (Dasa) in that individual's life. * Let us go through the results that would be predicted and latercompare it with actual results.This may serve 2 things. 1) The weight of previous knowledge contaminating predictions can beavoided.2) The reading would be still prediction rather than a post mortemanalysis.I request a third party (Srinivas ji, Panditji, Pradeep, Justin orsome one else) to provide a chart. Remember the chart should be ofsome one, about the life of whom, all of us know already.All those who do not know `whose chart it is', will have a go - onthe result predicted for that Dasa, for that individual. Let us try toknow how much astrology helps us in arriving at correct possibilities.Thus the preconditions are –• The predictions should be for a particular Vimsottari Dasa period only.• The references and technique used must be clarified in detail in thepost.Love,Sreenadh--- In , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:>> > Hare ramakrishna,> > dear sreenadh,> > yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of command over laungage i> realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i planned to write it> .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys any one chart and> describe it based on principles of astrology,which u can do it better> than me .> > thanks and regrds> > sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > --- In , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Thanks for the very good and informative mail. But still I think> > the question, " Whether good, moderate or bad results should be> > predicted for a particular Dasa? " , which is given much importance in> > many texts and many methodologies are described for the same (as well> > summarized in your mail), is of less importance compared to the major> > question, " What are the results to be predicted for a particular> > Dasa? " , which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many> > texts that discusses the subject. The question with secondary status> > (a higher class subject) is given most importance and the question> > with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is given> > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is misled!> > They ask questions and try their level best to determine and talk a> > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad - results;> > but pitifully fails to determine " What results should be attributed> > to that period (Dasa)? " !!! Shouldn't we try to put the record> > straight?> > Shouldn't we try to recast the right perspective of -> > First, identifying the results that should be attributed to that> > Dasa; and then,> > Secondly, to identifying to what extend/amount (large, moderate,> > weak) that results to fructify?> > Of course for those who don't know the answer to the first> > question, the answer to the second question (which you to address> > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But to those who know> > the answer to the first question, your mail would be a much> > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would see this point.> > Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive description of the> > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second question> > addressed).> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > --- In , " sunil nair " > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > Dear jyothishas and lovers of astrology,> > >> > > dasa analysis:-> > >> > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well established> > > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one hour> > window> > > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N rao ji they know s> > 40> > > kinds of differrent dasas and they collects datas and questions and> > > answerring it tru applying atleast 4 popular dasas applicable to the> > > chart and so they r very safe ..> > > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is more> > > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results accordingly .for> > this we> > > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is lagna ,jupiter ,mer> > > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are making lagna very> > strong ,if> > > moon is more strong by above situations we must give importance to> > > moon.And take moon sign as lagna. some says till 30 years lagna> > then> > > upto 60 moon and later years sun shud also be treated as lagna and> > shud> > > say the results ,but i am not favring that as lagna is smallest> > unit and> > > happening within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna> > should> > > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless previous> > > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in> > > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and moon> > in end> > > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which ever results> > signified> > > it by it will be giving but this is only a general statement.> > > Depending on the positions and bhavas the palnets will giv various> > > results . fro eg - we can take some one has jupiter in 2nd> > house ,in one> > > chart its in dhanu rasi and in another chart its in makar rasi ,so> > in> > > both charts jupiter is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa> > > ,apahara(sub periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart> > its 2nd> > > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart the> > lagna> > > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no cancellation s of> > > neechatwa the effect will be bad also .Even though its dasa of lagna> > > lord . so i am trying to formulate some of the principles which> > can> > > be useful in seeing a dasa and results> > > -------------------------> > 1) see> > > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed and see> > its> > > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya stiti ( normal> > > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in ashta varga for this> > > planet ,positioned in favrable places like 10th ,11th,or lagna ,also> > > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas this r generaly considered> > good.> > > 2)gulika lord ship (dispositor of gulika --according to kerala> > > sampradaya) ,assossiation with gulika ,less points in ashta varga> > > ,sastru khsetra stithi ,neecha stithi ,combust ,yoga with> > malefics,rasi> > > santhi,and bhava santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if> > > positioned in upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be> > > good ,not the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and> > well> > > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled only in> > > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or> > benefics if> > > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions with> > ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra> > > kshetra stithi and if aspected by benefics or palced also in benefic> > > vargas the planets will giv good results 6)If dasa lord is> > strong and> > > and frnd of lagna lord good and favrable results can be expected .> > > 7)but if enmy of lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa> > > will be highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with> > a> > > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics will> > giv bad> > > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa lord is benefic or> > > functional benefic if well placed with strenght will giv good> > results> > > and mafefic or functional malefics ill placed and weak will giv bad> > > results . 10) if the planet is placed in sheershodaya sign it may> > giv> > > results in begining .and prishtodaya sign it will giv results in> > end and> > > if in ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad> > results .> > > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are sheershodaya(rising> > with> > > head signs) and aries ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are> > > prishtodaya signs (rising with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya> > sign> > > ( rising with both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if> > he is> > > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced for> > higher> > > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg --mercury is> > 6th> > > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if placed in virgo ,ucha rasi he> > will> > > be the best among dasas. 12)It says 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords> > from> > > janma nakshatra adhi pathy order will be supposed to be best> > dasas> > > 13) if 3rd house or 12th house and any weak planets are situated his> > > dasa apahara ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics> > then it> > > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi (begining> > or> > > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble> > some ,sorrows ,pains ,deseases> > > and various mishappes may be possible and if the planets is in 30 th> > > degree its very dangerous may be it can cause death also. 15) The> > > planet positioned with rahu and and dispositor of sign were rahu> > > paositioned cannot deliver good results of them and rahu will> > deliver> > > that results. 16) planets positioned in purticular nashatra will> > aslo> > > give the results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna> > more> > > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub period> > of> > > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord or who is> > > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in weak> > position in> > > rasi of malefic planets or houses such period will be also trouble> > some.> > > 18) where ever malefic planets are positioned they give results> > > according to its bhava in frst 1/3 rd of dasa and then rasi phala> > next> > > 1/3 and then according to planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of> > > those palnets. 19) if any planet has got any malefics from 4th> > house> > > its position during his dasa some problems regding property is> > possible.> > > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa its> > rasi> > > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of the results> > will be> > > given to aspects and conjns of various planets. 21)If benefic and> > > malefic is sitting together the dasa of benefic will be bad and> > malefic> > > will be good . 22) any planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka> > in> > > neecha he cannot giv good results and if everse it will giv best> > results> > > .. a)if sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to> > > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same sun> > > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and> > happyness> > > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in end of the dasa b)> > Moon> > > also same results mentioned above but welfare of mother shud be> > seen .> > > c)mars -if neechamsaka --bad for brothers and kids and property> > > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi labham ,dhana labham along with happyness> > from> > > brothers . d)budha is neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of> > > intelligence ,and also our actions will be judged very badly .> > > uchamsaka can giv first bad then good positions and experiences> > e) jup> > > in neechamsaka --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every> > body> > > ,even our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka> > > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in education> > and> > > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse and> > problems> > > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of luck ,less money ,and> > change> > > is position to fall from position. in uchamsaka - very good> > comforting> > > experiences ,good experince regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and> > wealth> > > . g) sani in neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the> > > hell in this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and> > then> > > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable wealth may> > be> > > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best results if> > > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona with kendra lords> > and if> > > alone they giv the results of rasi lord and also nakshatra lord> > > generaly rahu in first half of zodiac gives best results and other> > half> > > is good for ketu It says aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in> > good> > > bhavas good results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi> > > ,happiness in pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and> > > capricon and virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from> > spouse> > > and kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th> > and> > > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who assossiated> > with> > > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa lord in> > their> > > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but if that planets has> > drishti> > > pf good planets and also placed well in chart the bad results are> > > nullified . same is the case of gulika degree lords dasa again if> > good> > > planets are aspecting or guru aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra> > this> > > results cancelles a great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in> > > series and guru dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very> > bad.> > > 27) the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with rahu> > also> > > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra -surya for ladies> > kuja> > > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29)Dasa of ashtama lord is> > bad> > > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30)3/6/11 th lords if they are> > benefics> > > their dasa is supposed to be bad. 31)moon and sun and lagna lord> > has> > > no ashtamadhi pathy dosha. 32)see in which house from dasa lord> > the> > > apahara lord is placed and results also will be according to the> > place> > > ment. 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the> > deed> > > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While> > seeing any> > > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and lagna lord and dasa> > lord and> > > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to the results of dasa also> > transit> > > also plays a good role is making a better or slow results And> > delinating> > > tru various vargas is not mentioned here . ALSO I REQUEST> > SREENADH AND> > > OTHERS TO COMMENT AND COME OUT WITH WORKING EXAMPLES SO AS TO> > BENEFIT> > > GROUP MEMBERS.I AM JUST CHANNELING A DISCUSSION ALL ARE INVITED TO> > > PARTICIPATE regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > >> >> > > > > > > > ________ > Explore the seven wonders of the world > http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world & mkt=en-US & form=QBRE > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Hi Ram, I agree with your views of studying unknown charts. Reason is , if we go after celebriety charts, (mostly erroneus) ,they are not going to join this group and tell us whether our analysis is correct or not. On the contrary , if we comment on chart , like the one put forward by Ravi , where the latter knows all life events of the former, we could easily adjudge our own skills and pitfalls . I hope, Sreenadh will ponder , once again Best M Nair , "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal wrote:>> Namaste Sreenadhji> > May I suggest otherwise? Most people can give lots of different reasons as> to why certain events occur during certain Dasha periods which can be true> as No single cause can always be attributed to it ie something can occur due> to Dasha's/Transits etc . Note there is also a "saying" that each Maha Dasha> should only be evaluated after seeing the "Prashna" for the moment of the> change in Dasha ...> > Wouldn't it be better to study an "unknown" chart to test the "reading"> ability of Dasha's etc?> > Thanks and hoping comments taken in a positive sense?> > Jai Sita Ram> > Ram> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sreenadh> 02 September 2007 08:48> > Re: Vimshottarry dasa analysis> > Dear Ravi ji,> That is not enough. Confirm that many of the members of this> group would be familiar with the life events of that person. He should> be famous/popular due to some reason. If so we can proceed with the> same, if not this horoscope won't be selected for the said exercise.> Love,> Sreenadh> > ancient_indian_ <%40>> astrology , "A. Ravindran Nair"> rain13@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Sreenadhji,> > > > Yes, that would be a good idea. A student like me can sharpen my> skills. I can provide the data of a horoscope for analysis.> > > > Date of birth - 20-06-1979 Boy> > Time of birth - 6.30 p.m.> > Place of birth - Palghat> > > > I rather familiar with all the events in his life.> > > > Regards> > > > Ravi Nair> > > > > > > > > > > > @: sreesog@: Sat, 1 Sep 2007> 09:39:11 +0000 Re: Vimshottarry> dasa analysis> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji!You said:==>> I request u to analys any one chart and> describe it based on > principles of astrology, which u can do it> better than me .<== Ooops!! That is a trap! But yes, we will do that> taking some chart -just for the sake of clarity (are we not doing it> already?!; I thinkwhat we do in all chart reading is that itself!). *> Let us take any chart (but don't mention whose it is), about whichmost> of us may know, and provide. * Take a specific period (Dasa) in that> individual's life. * Let us go through the results that would be> predicted and latercompare it with actual results.This may serve 2> things. 1) The weight of previous knowledge contaminating predictions> can beavoided.2) The reading would be still prediction rather than a> post mortemanalysis.I request a third party (Srinivas ji, Panditji,> Pradeep, Justin orsome one else) to provide a chart. Remember the> chart should be ofsome one, about the life of whom, all of us know> already.All those who do not know `whose chart it is', will have a go> - onthe result predicted for that Dasa, for that individual. Let us> try toknow how much astrology helps us in arriving at correct> possibilities.Thus the preconditions are -. The predictions should be> for a particular Vimsottari Dasa period only.. The references and> technique used must be clarified in detail in thepost.Love,Sreenadh---> In ancient_indian_ <%40>> astrology , "sunil> nair"<astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:>> > Hare ramakrishna,> > dear> sreenadh,> > yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of command over> laungage i> realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i planned to> write it> .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys any one> chart and> describe it based on principles of astrology,which u can do> it better> than me .> > thanks and regrds> > sunil nair> > om shreem> mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > --- In> ancient_indian_ <%40>> astrology , "Sreenadh"> <sreesog@>> wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Thanks for the very good and> informative mail. But still I think> > the question, "Whether good,> moderate or bad results should be> > predicted for a particular> Dasa?", which is given much importance in> > many texts and many> methodologies are described for the same (as well> > summarized in> your mail), is of less importance compared to the major> > question,> "What are the results to be predicted for a particular> > Dasa?",> which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many> > texts> that discusses the subject. The question with secondary status> > (a> higher class subject) is given most importance and the question> >> with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is given>> > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is misled!>> > They ask questions and try their level best to determine and talk a>> > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad -> results;> > but pitifully fails to determine "What results should be> attributed> > to that period (Dasa)?"!!! Shouldn't we try to put the> record> > straight?> > Shouldn't we try to recast the right> perspective of -> > First, identifying the results that should be> attributed to that> > Dasa; and then,> > Secondly, to identifying to> what extend/amount (large, moderate,> > weak) that results to> fructify?> > Of course for those who don't know the answer to the> first> > question, the answer to the second question (which you to> address> > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But to> those who know> > the answer to the first question, your mail would be> a much> > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would see> this point.> > Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive description> of the> > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second question>> > addressed).> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > --- In> ancient_indian_ <%40>> astrology , "sunil nair"> >> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > Dear> jyothishas and lovers of astrology,> > >> > > dasa analysis:-> > >> >> > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well established> >> > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one hour> >> window> > > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N rao ji> they know s> > 40> > > kinds of differrent dasas and they collects> datas and questions and> > > answerring it tru applying atleast 4> popular dasas applicable to the> > > chart and so they r very safe .>> > > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is more> >> > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results accordingly .for> >> this we> > > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is lagna> ,jupiter ,mer> > > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are making> lagna very> > strong ,if> > > moon is more strong by above situations> we must give importance to> > > moon.And take moon sign as lagna. some> says till 30 years lagna> > then> > > upto 60 moon and later years sun> shud also be treated as lagna and> > shud> > > say the results ,but i> am not favring that as lagna is smallest> > unit and> > > happening> within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna> > should> > >> giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless previous> > >> conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in> > >> begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and moon> >> in end> > > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which ever> results> > signified> > > it by it will be giving but this is only a> general statement.> > > Depending on the positions and bhavas the> palnets will giv various> > > results . fro eg - we can take some one> has jupiter in 2nd> > house ,in one> > > chart its in dhanu rasi and> in another chart its in makar rasi ,so> > in> > > both charts jupiter> is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa> > > ,apahara(sub> periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart> > its 2nd> > >> lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart the> >> lagna> > > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no> cancellation s of> > > neechatwa the effect will be bad also .Even> though its dasa of lagna> > > lord . so i am trying to formulate some> of the principles which> > can> > > be useful in seeing a dasa and> results> > >> -------------------------> > 1) see>> > > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed and see>> > its> > > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya stiti> ( normal> > > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in ashta> varga for this> > > planet ,positioned in favrable places like 10th> ,11th,or lagna ,also> > > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas this r> generaly considered> > good.> > > 2)gulika lord ship (dispositor of> gulika --according to kerala> > > sampradaya) ,assossiation with> gulika ,less points in ashta varga> > > ,sastru khsetra stithi ,neecha> stithi ,combust ,yoga with> > malefics,rasi> > > santhi,and bhava> santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if> > > positioned in> upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be> > > good ,not> the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and> > well> > >> placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled only in>> > > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or> >> benefics if> > > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions with> >> ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra> > > kshetra stithi and if aspected by benefics> or palced also in benefic> > > vargas the planets will giv good> results 6)If dasa lord is> > strong and> > > and frnd of lagna lord> good and favrable results can be expected .> > > 7)but if enmy of> lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa> > > will be> highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with> > a> > >> benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics will> >> giv bad> > > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa lord is> benefic or> > > functional benefic if well placed with strenght will> giv good> > results> > > and mafefic or functional malefics ill placed> and weak will giv bad> > > results . 10) if the planet is placed in> sheershodaya sign it may> > giv> > > results in begining .and> prishtodaya sign it will giv results in> > end and> > > if in> ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad> > results .>> > > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are> sheershodaya(rising> > with> > > head signs) and aries> ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are> > > prishtodaya signs (rising> with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya> > sign> > > ( rising with> both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if> > he is> > >> powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced for> >> higher> > > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg> --mercury is> > 6th> > > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if placed in> virgo ,ucha rasi he> > will> > > be the best among dasas. 12)It says> 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords> > from> > > janma nakshatra adhi pathy> order will be supposed to be best> > dasas> > > 13) if 3rd house or> 12th house and any weak planets are situated his> > > dasa apahara> ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics> > then it> > >> will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi (begining> >> or> > > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble> > some ,sorrows> ,pains ,deseases> > > and various mishappes may be possible and if the> planets is in 30 th> > > degree its very dangerous may be it can cause> death also. 15) The> > > planet positioned with rahu and and> dispositor of sign were rahu> > > paositioned cannot deliver good> results of them and rahu will> > deliver> > > that results. 16)> planets positioned in purticular nashatra will> > aslo> > > give the> results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna> > more> > >> better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub period> >> of> > > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord or who> is> > > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in weak>> > position in> > > rasi of malefic planets or houses such period will> be also trouble> > some.> > > 18) where ever malefic planets are> positioned they give results> > > according to its bhava in frst 1/3> rd of dasa and then rasi phala> > next> > > 1/3 and then according to> planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of> > > those palnets. 19) if> any planet has got any malefics from 4th> > house> > > its position> during his dasa some problems regding property is> > possible.> > >> 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa its> >> rasi> > > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of the> results> > will be> > > given to aspects and conjns of various> planets. 21)If benefic and> > > malefic is sitting together the dasa> of benefic will be bad and> > malefic> > > will be good . 22) any> planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka> > in> > > neecha he cannot> giv good results and if everse it will giv best> > results> > > . a)if> sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to> > >> father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same sun> > >> gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and> >> happyness> > > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in end of> the dasa b)> > Moon> > > also same results mentioned above but welfare> of mother shud be> > seen .> > > c)mars -if neechamsaka --bad for> brothers and kids and property> > > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi labham> ,dhana labham along with happyness> > from> > > brothers . d)budha is> neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of> > > intelligence ,and also our> actions will be judged very badly .> > > uchamsaka can giv first bad> then good positions and experiences> > e) jup> > > in neechamsaka> --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every> > body> > > ,even> our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka> > >> --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in education> >> and> > > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse and> >> problems> > > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of luck ,less> money ,and> > change> > > is position to fall from position. in> uchamsaka - very good> > comforting> > > experiences ,good experince> regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and> > wealth> > > . g) sani in> neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the> > > hell in> this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and> > then> >> > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable wealth may>> > be> > > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best> results if> > > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona with> kendra lords> > and if> > > alone they giv the results of rasi lord> and also nakshatra lord> > > generaly rahu in first half of zodiac> gives best results and other> > half> > > is good for ketu It says> aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in> > good> > > bhavas good> results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi> > > ,happiness in> pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and> > > capricon and> virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from> > spouse> > > and> kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th> > and> >> > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who assossiated> >> with> > > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa lord> in> > their> > > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but if that> planets has> > drishti> > > pf good planets and also placed well in> chart the bad results are> > > nullified . same is the case of gulika> degree lords dasa again if> > good> > > planets are aspecting or guru> aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra> > this> > > results cancelles a> great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in> > > series and guru> dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very> > bad.> > > 27)> the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with rahu> >> also> > > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra -surya for> ladies> > kuja> > > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29)Dasa of> ashtama lord is> > bad> > > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30)3/6/11 th> lords if they are> > benefics> > > their dasa is supposed to be bad.> 31)moon and sun and lagna lord> > has> > > no ashtamadhi pathy dosha.> 32)see in which house from dasa lord> > the> > > apahara lord is> placed and results also will be according to the> > place> > > ment.> 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the> > deed> >> > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While> >> seeing any> > > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and lagna lord> and dasa> > lord and> > > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to the> results of dasa also> > transit> > > also plays a good role is making> a better or slow results And> > delinating> > > tru various vargas is> not mentioned here . ALSO I REQUEST> > SREENADH AND> > > OTHERS TO> COMMENT AND COME OUT WITH WORKING EXAMPLES SO AS TO> > BENEFIT> > >> GROUP MEMBERS.I AM JUST CHANNELING A DISCUSSION ALL ARE INVITED TO> >> > PARTICIPATE regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________> > Explore the seven wonders of the world> > http://search.> <http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world & mkt=en-US & form=QBRE>> msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world & mkt=en-US & form=QBRE> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Dear M Nair, Great !!! You are hitting the targets !! I had a specific reason for giving the data of this person, because of his achievements. Extremely sorry, there is a little correction in the timing, it is 6.25 p.m. and not 6.30 p.m. He is not married. His only younger sister's marriage was done in Moon-Mercury period, to be precise on 27-10-2005. He already resigned his job on June 1, 2007, but not for a change of employer but to continue studies. Regards Ravi Nair , " Balagurusurya " <balagurusurya wrote: > > > > > Hi Ravi, > > Subject born with 01Sag54 (As per Lahiri's ayanamsa) is currently > passing through Mn/Ve > > ---Both Mn & Ve are female planets. Mn, the major period lord is L8 of > marital bond, placed in H5 ,that unites couples. > > Ve, the subperiod ruler , is the planet of conjugal bliss and as L11 > of new acquaintance , stationed in Taurus , the 2nd of natural zodiac > representing family. In D-9, Ve owns H7 of spouse. > > As such , the native , if unmarried, will get married in Ve sub period > .If already married, this Ve period will give child birth. > > Alternatively , the Ve period may see the wedding of co-borns, I mean, > siblings, if any > > Further ,there will be a change in job/service Reason ---Sat, L3 of > change ,aspect Ve , the subperiod ruler in the birth chart . This > aspect, is reonforced by the current Saturn Return . > > Ve sub period ,runs upto 30Aug,2008, . It is a long way to go .Still > out of accademic interest , I am asking you, can you confirm or deny > any of my readings , since you know the native very well ? > > Anticipating your reply > > Best > > M Nair > > > > > > > > , " rain13club " > <rain13@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > Sincerely speaking, I do not think much people would be knowing this > > personality. > > > > I would leave it to other members to come up with a suitable > > horoscope. > > > > Regards > > > > Ravi Nair > > > > > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ravi ji, > > > That is not enough. Confirm that many of the members of this > > > group would be familiar with the life events of that person. He > > should > > > be famous/popular due to some reason. If so we can proceed with the > > > same, if not this horoscope won't be selected for the said > > exercise. > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , " A. Ravindran > > Nair " > > > <rain13@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > > > Yes, that would be a good idea. A student like me can sharpen my > > > skills. I can provide the data of a horoscope for analysis. > > > > > > > > Date of birth - 20-06-1979 Boy > > > > Time of birth - 6.30 p.m. > > > > Place of birth - Palghat > > > > > > > > I rather familiar with all the events in his life. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Ravi Nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @: sreesog@: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 > > > 09:39:11 +0000 Re: Vimshottarry > > > dasa analysis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji!You said:==>> I request u to analys any one chart > > and > > > describe it based on > principles of astrology, which u can do it > > > better than me .<== Ooops!! That is a trap! But yes, we will do > > that > > > taking some chart -just for the sake of clarity (are we not doing > > it > > > already?!; I thinkwhat we do in all chart reading is that > > itself!). * > > > Let us take any chart (but don't mention whose it is), about > > whichmost > > > of us may know, and provide. * Take a specific period (Dasa) in > > that > > > individual's life. * Let us go through the results that would be > > > predicted and latercompare it with actual results.This may serve 2 > > > things. 1) The weight of previous knowledge contaminating > > predictions > > > can beavoided.2) The reading would be still prediction rather than > > a > > > post mortemanalysis.I request a third party (Srinivas ji, Panditji, > > > Pradeep, Justin orsome one else) to provide a chart. Remember the > > > chart should be ofsome one, about the life of whom, all of us know > > > already.All those who do not know `whose chart it is', will have a > > go > > > - onthe result predicted for that Dasa, for that individual. Let us > > > try toknow how much astrology helps us in arriving at correct > > > possibilities.Thus the preconditions are –• The predictions > should > > be > > > for a particular Vimsottari Dasa period only.• The references > and > > > technique used must be clarified in detail in > > thepost.Love,Sreenadh--- > > > In , " sunil > > > nair " <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:>> > Hare ramakrishna,> > dear > > > sreenadh,> > yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of command > > over > > > laungage i> realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i > > planned to > > > write it> .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys any > > one > > > chart and> describe it based on principles of astrology,which u > > can do > > > it better> than me .> > thanks and regrds> > sunil nair> > om > > shreem > > > mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > --- In > > > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> > > > wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Thanks for the very good and > > > informative mail. But still I think> > the question, " Whether good, > > > moderate or bad results should be> > predicted for a particular > > > Dasa? " , which is given much importance in> > many texts and many > > > methodologies are described for the same (as well> > summarized in > > > your mail), is of less importance compared to the major> > > > question, > > > " What are the results to be predicted for a particular> > Dasa? " , > > > which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many> > > > texts > > > that discusses the subject. The question with secondary status> > > > (a > > > higher class subject) is given most importance and the question> > > > > with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is > > given> > > > > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is > > misled!> > > > > They ask questions and try their level best to determine and > > talk a> > > > > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad - > > > results;> > but pitifully fails to determine " What results should > > be > > > attributed> > to that period (Dasa)? " !!! Shouldn't we try to put > > the > > > record> > straight?> > Shouldn't we try to recast the right > > > perspective of -> > First, identifying the results that should be > > > attributed to that> > Dasa; and then,> > Secondly, to identifying > > to > > > what extend/amount (large, moderate,> > weak) that results to > > > fructify?> > Of course for those who don't know the answer to the > > > first> > question, the answer to the second question (which you to > > > address> > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But to > > > those who know> > the answer to the first question, your mail > > would be > > > a much> > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would see > > > this point.> > Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive > > description > > > of the> > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second > > question> > > > > addressed).> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > --- In > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > Dear > > > jyothishas and lovers of astrology,> > >> > > dasa analysis:-> > > > >> > > > > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well > > established> > > > > > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one hour> > > > > > > window> > > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N rao ji > > > they know s> > 40> > > kinds of differrent dasas and they collects > > > datas and questions and> > > answerring it tru applying atleast 4 > > > popular dasas applicable to the> > > chart and so they r very > > safe .> > > > > > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is > > more> > > > > > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results accordingly .for> > > > > > > this we> > > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is lagna > > > ,jupiter ,mer> > > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are making > > > lagna very> > strong ,if> > > moon is more strong by above > > situations > > > we must give importance to> > > moon.And take moon sign as lagna. > > some > > > says till 30 years lagna> > then> > > upto 60 moon and later years > > sun > > > shud also be treated as lagna and> > shud> > > say the > > results ,but i > > > am not favring that as lagna is smallest> > unit and> > > happening > > > within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna> > should> > > > > > > > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless previous> > > > > > > > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in> > > > > > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and moon> > > > > > > in end> > > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which ever > > > results> > signified> > > it by it will be giving but this is only > > a > > > general statement.> > > Depending on the positions and bhavas the > > > palnets will giv various> > > results . fro eg - we can take some > > one > > > has jupiter in 2nd> > house ,in one> > > chart its in dhanu rasi > > and > > > in another chart its in makar rasi ,so> > in> > > both charts > > jupiter > > > is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa> > > ,apahara(sub > > > periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart> > its 2nd> > > > > > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart > > the> > > > > lagna> > > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no > > > cancellation s of> > > neechatwa the effect will be bad also .Even > > > though its dasa of lagna> > > lord . so i am trying to formulate > > some > > > of the principles which> > can> > > be useful in seeing a dasa and > > > results> > > > > > -------------------------> > 1) > > see> > > > > > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed and > > see> > > > > its> > > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya > > stiti > > > ( normal> > > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in ashta > > > varga for this> > > planet ,positioned in favrable places like 10th > > > ,11th,or lagna ,also> > > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas this r > > > generaly considered> > good.> > > 2)gulika lord ship (dispositor of > > > gulika --according to kerala> > > sampradaya) ,assossiation with > > > gulika ,less points in ashta varga> > > ,sastru khsetra > > stithi ,neecha > > > stithi ,combust ,yoga with> > malefics,rasi> > > santhi,and bhava > > > santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if> > > positioned in > > > upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be> > > > > good ,not > > > the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and> > well> > > > > > > > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled only > > in> > > > > > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or> > > > > benefics if> > > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions with> > > > > ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra> > > kshetra stithi and if aspected by > > benefics > > > or palced also in benefic> > > vargas the planets will giv good > > > results 6)If dasa lord is> > strong and> > > and frnd of lagna lord > > > good and favrable results can be expected .> > > 7)but if enmy of > > > lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa> > > will be > > > highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with> > a> > > > > > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics will> > > > > giv bad> > > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa lord > > is > > > benefic or> > > functional benefic if well placed with strenght > > will > > > giv good> > results> > > and mafefic or functional malefics ill > > placed > > > and weak will giv bad> > > results . 10) if the planet is placed in > > > sheershodaya sign it may> > giv> > > results in begining .and > > > prishtodaya sign it will giv results in> > end and> > > if in > > > ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad> > > > results .> > > > > > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are > > > sheershodaya(rising> > with> > > head signs) and aries > > > ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are> > > prishtodaya signs > > (rising > > > with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya> > sign> > > ( rising with > > > both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if> > he is> > > > > > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced for> > > > > higher> > > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg > > > --mercury is> > 6th> > > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if > > placed in > > > virgo ,ucha rasi he> > will> > > be the best among dasas. 12)It > > says > > > 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords> > from> > > janma nakshatra adhi > > pathy > > > order will be supposed to be best> > dasas> > > 13) if 3rd house or > > > 12th house and any weak planets are situated his> > > dasa apahara > > > ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics> > then it> > > > > > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi (begining> > > > > or> > > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble> > some ,sorrows > > > ,pains ,deseases> > > and various mishappes may be possible and if > > the > > > planets is in 30 th> > > degree its very dangerous may be it can > > cause > > > death also. 15) The> > > planet positioned with rahu and and > > > dispositor of sign were rahu> > > paositioned cannot deliver good > > > results of them and rahu will> > deliver> > > that results. 16) > > > planets positioned in purticular nashatra will> > aslo> > > give > > the > > > results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna> > more> > > > > > > > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub period> > > > > of> > > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord or > > who > > > is> > > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in > > weak> > > > > position in> > > rasi of malefic planets or houses such period > > will > > > be also trouble> > some.> > > 18) where ever malefic planets are > > > positioned they give results> > > according to its bhava in frst > > 1/3 > > > rd of dasa and then rasi phala> > next> > > 1/3 and then according > > to > > > planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of> > > those palnets. 19) > > if > > > any planet has got any malefics from 4th> > house> > > its position > > > during his dasa some problems regding property is> > possible.> > > > > > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa its> > > > > rasi> > > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of the > > > results> > will be> > > given to aspects and conjns of various > > > planets. 21)If benefic and> > > malefic is sitting together the > > dasa > > > of benefic will be bad and> > malefic> > > will be good . 22) any > > > planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka> > in> > > neecha he > > cannot > > > giv good results and if everse it will giv best> > results> > > . > > a)if > > > sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to> > > > > > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same sun> > > > > > > > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and> > > > > happyness> > > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in end of > > > the dasa b)> > Moon> > > also same results mentioned above but > > welfare > > > of mother shud be> > seen .> > > c)mars -if neechamsaka --bad for > > > brothers and kids and property> > > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi labham > > > ,dhana labham along with happyness> > from> > > brothers . d) budha > > is > > > neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of> > > intelligence ,and also > > our > > > actions will be judged very badly .> > > uchamsaka can giv first > > bad > > > then good positions and experiences> > e) jup> > > in neechamsaka > > > --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every> > body> > > > > ,even > > > our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka> > > > > > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in > > education> > > > > and> > > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse > > and> > > > > problems> > > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of > > luck ,less > > > money ,and> > change> > > is position to fall from position. in > > > uchamsaka - very good> > comforting> > > experiences ,good > > experince > > > regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and> > wealth> > > . g) sani in > > > neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the> > > hell in > > > this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and> > > > then> > > > > > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable wealth > > may> > > > > be> > > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best > > > results if> > > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona with > > > kendra lords> > and if> > > alone they giv the results of rasi lord > > > and also nakshatra lord> > > generaly rahu in first half of zodiac > > > gives best results and other> > half> > > is good for ketu It says > > > aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in> > good> > > bhavas good > > > results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi> > > > > ,happiness in > > > pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and> > > capricon > > and > > > virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from> > spouse> > > > > and > > > kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th> > > > and> > > > > > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who > > assossiated> > > > > with> > > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa > > lord > > > in> > their> > > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but if > > that > > > planets has> > drishti> > > pf good planets and also placed well in > > > chart the bad results are> > > nullified . same is the case of > > gulika > > > degree lords dasa again if> > good> > > planets are aspecting or > > guru > > > aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra> > this> > > results > > cancelles a > > > great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in> > > series and guru > > > dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very> > bad.> > > 27) > > > the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with rahu> > > > > also> > > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra - surya > > for > > > ladies> > kuja> > > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29) Dasa > > of > > > ashtama lord is> > bad> > > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30) > > 3/6/11 th > > > lords if they are> > benefics> > > their dasa is supposed to be > > bad. > > > 31)moon and sun and lagna lord> > has> > > no ashtamadhi pathy > > dosha. > > > 32)see in which house from dasa lord> > the> > > apahara lord is > > > placed and results also will be according to the> > place> > > > > ment. > > > 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the> > > > deed> > > > > > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While> > > > > seeing any> > > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and lagna > > lord > > > and dasa> > lord and> > > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to the > > > results of dasa also> > transit> > > also plays a good role is > > making > > > a better or slow results And> > delinating> > > tru various vargas > > is > > > not mentioned here . ALSO I REQUEST> > SREENADH AND> > > OTHERS TO > > > COMMENT AND COME OUT WITH WORKING EXAMPLES SO AS TO> > BENEFIT> > > > > > GROUP MEMBERS.I AM JUST CHANNELING A DISCUSSION ALL ARE INVITED > > TO> > > > > > PARTICIPATE regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > > > Explore the seven wonders of the world > > > > http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world & mkt=en- > > US & form=QBRE > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Dear Ram ji, The power and beauty of astrology lies in predicting unknown things just from the chart. Predictions related to Dasa in not a special case. If chart readings can reflect truth (Dasa points to the period at which they will occur), Dasa readings can be independent of prior knowledge about the native and his circumstances, to an extend. Life is molded by the past and environment, and so the other influences are also of value - that is the other side of the coin. But for such practical exercises aimed at learning astrology, we can ignore such effects. Prasna is something else - that tells you how much the deviant result (from the result indicated by the horoscope) the native is undergoing currently, and why? ==> > Wouldn't it be better to study an " unknown " chart to test the > " reading " ability of Dasha's etc? <== That is what suggested here - if seems that you failed to read the previous mails on the same thread. If you had followed The proposed exercise, what was suggested is " Reading an unknown horoscope, that is unknown to the astrologers who read it. But the horoscope suggested should be of an individual famous for some reason, though his name or other details won't be revealed initially. But later when the readings are over, revealing the native's name will help others in contemplating the points at which the reading went right or wrong " . Hope you got the point. Note: Read the previous mails on the subject, before jumping to conclusions and comments. Love, Sreenadh , " Ram Jaswal " <rkjaswal wrote: > > Namaste Sreenadhji > > May I suggest otherwise? Most people can give lots of different reasons as > to why certain events occur during certain Dasha periods which can be true > as No single cause can always be attributed to it ie something can occur due > to Dasha's/Transits etc . Note there is also a " saying " that each Maha Dasha > should only be evaluated after seeing the " Prashna " for the moment of the > change in Dasha ... > > Wouldn't it be better to study an " unknown " chart to test the " reading " > ability of Dasha's etc? > > Thanks and hoping comments taken in a positive sense? > > Jai Sita Ram > > Ram > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sreenadh > 02 September 2007 08:48 > > Re: Vimshottarry dasa analysis > > Dear Ravi ji, > That is not enough. Confirm that many of the members of this > group would be familiar with the life events of that person. He should > be famous/popular due to some reason. If so we can proceed with the > same, if not this horoscope won't be selected for the said exercise. > Love, > Sreenadh > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , " A. Ravindran Nair " > <rain13@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > Yes, that would be a good idea. A student like me can sharpen my > skills. I can provide the data of a horoscope for analysis. > > > > Date of birth - 20-06-1979 Boy > > Time of birth - 6.30 p.m. > > Place of birth - Palghat > > > > I rather familiar with all the events in his life. > > > > Regards > > > > Ravi Nair > > > > > > > > > > > > @: sreesog@: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 > 09:39:11 +0000 Re: Vimshottarry > dasa analysis > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji!You said:==>> I request u to analys any one chart and > describe it based on > principles of astrology, which u can do it > better than me .<== Ooops!! That is a trap! But yes, we will do that > taking some chart -just for the sake of clarity (are we not doing it > already?!; I thinkwhat we do in all chart reading is that itself!). * > Let us take any chart (but don't mention whose it is), about whichmost > of us may know, and provide. * Take a specific period (Dasa) in that > individual's life. * Let us go through the results that would be > predicted and latercompare it with actual results.This may serve 2 > things. 1) The weight of previous knowledge contaminating predictions > can beavoided.2) The reading would be still prediction rather than a > post mortemanalysis.I request a third party (Srinivas ji, Panditji, > Pradeep, Justin orsome one else) to provide a chart. Remember the > chart should be ofsome one, about the life of whom, all of us know > already.All those who do not know `whose chart it is', will have a go > - onthe result predicted for that Dasa, for that individual. Let us > try toknow how much astrology helps us in arriving at correct > possibilities.Thus the preconditions are -. The predictions should be > for a particular Vimsottari Dasa period only.. The references and > technique used must be clarified in detail in thepost.Love,Sreenadh--- > In ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , " sunil > nair " <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:>> > Hare ramakrishna,> > dear > sreenadh,> > yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of command over > laungage i> realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i planned to > write it> .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys any one > chart and> describe it based on principles of astrology,which u can do > it better> than me .> > thanks and regrds> > sunil nair> > om shreem > mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > --- In > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Thanks for the very good and > informative mail. But still I think> > the question, " Whether good, > moderate or bad results should be> > predicted for a particular > Dasa? " , which is given much importance in> > many texts and many > methodologies are described for the same (as well> > summarized in > your mail), is of less importance compared to the major> > question, > " What are the results to be predicted for a particular> > Dasa? " , > which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many> > texts > that discusses the subject. The question with secondary status> > (a > higher class subject) is given most importance and the question> > > with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is given> > > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is misled!> > > They ask questions and try their level best to determine and talk a> > > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad - > results;> > but pitifully fails to determine " What results should be > attributed> > to that period (Dasa)? " !!! Shouldn't we try to put the > record> > straight?> > Shouldn't we try to recast the right > perspective of -> > First, identifying the results that should be > attributed to that> > Dasa; and then,> > Secondly, to identifying to > what extend/amount (large, moderate,> > weak) that results to > fructify?> > Of course for those who don't know the answer to the > first> > question, the answer to the second question (which you to > address> > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But to > those who know> > the answer to the first question, your mail would be > a much> > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would see > this point.> > Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive description > of the> > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second question> > > addressed).> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > --- In > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , " sunil nair " > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > Dear > jyothishas and lovers of astrology,> > >> > > dasa analysis:-> > >> > > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well established> > > > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one hour> > > window> > > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N rao ji > they know s> > 40> > > kinds of differrent dasas and they collects > datas and questions and> > > answerring it tru applying atleast 4 > popular dasas applicable to the> > > chart and so they r very safe .> > > > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is more> > > > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results accordingly .for> > > this we> > > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is lagna > ,jupiter ,mer> > > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are making > lagna very> > strong ,if> > > moon is more strong by above situations > we must give importance to> > > moon.And take moon sign as lagna. some > says till 30 years lagna> > then> > > upto 60 moon and later years sun > shud also be treated as lagna and> > shud> > > say the results ,but i > am not favring that as lagna is smallest> > unit and> > > happening > within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna> > should> > > > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless previous> > > > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in> > > > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and moon> > > in end> > > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which ever > results> > signified> > > it by it will be giving but this is only a > general statement.> > > Depending on the positions and bhavas the > palnets will giv various> > > results . fro eg - we can take some one > has jupiter in 2nd> > house ,in one> > > chart its in dhanu rasi and > in another chart its in makar rasi ,so> > in> > > both charts jupiter > is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa> > > ,apahara(sub > periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart> > its 2nd> > > > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart the> > > lagna> > > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no > cancellation s of> > > neechatwa the effect will be bad also .Even > though its dasa of lagna> > > lord . so i am trying to formulate some > of the principles which> > can> > > be useful in seeing a dasa and > results> > > > -------------------------> > 1) see> > > > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed and see> > > its> > > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya stiti > ( normal> > > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in ashta > varga for this> > > planet ,positioned in favrable places like 10th > ,11th,or lagna ,also> > > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas this r > generaly considered> > good.> > > 2)gulika lord ship (dispositor of > gulika --according to kerala> > > sampradaya) ,assossiation with > gulika ,less points in ashta varga> > > ,sastru khsetra stithi ,neecha > stithi ,combust ,yoga with> > malefics,rasi> > > santhi,and bhava > santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if> > > positioned in > upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be> > > good ,not > the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and> > well> > > > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled only in> > > > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or> > > benefics if> > > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions with> > > ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra> > > kshetra stithi and if aspected by benefics > or palced also in benefic> > > vargas the planets will giv good > results 6)If dasa lord is> > strong and> > > and frnd of lagna lord > good and favrable results can be expected .> > > 7)but if enmy of > lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa> > > will be > highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with> > a> > > > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics will> > > giv bad> > > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa lord is > benefic or> > > functional benefic if well placed with strenght will > giv good> > results> > > and mafefic or functional malefics ill placed > and weak will giv bad> > > results . 10) if the planet is placed in > sheershodaya sign it may> > giv> > > results in begining .and > prishtodaya sign it will giv results in> > end and> > > if in > ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad> > results .> > > > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are > sheershodaya(rising> > with> > > head signs) and aries > ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are> > > prishtodaya signs (rising > with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya> > sign> > > ( rising with > both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if> > he is> > > > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced for> > > higher> > > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg > --mercury is> > 6th> > > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if placed in > virgo ,ucha rasi he> > will> > > be the best among dasas. 12)It says > 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords> > from> > > janma nakshatra adhi pathy > order will be supposed to be best> > dasas> > > 13) if 3rd house or > 12th house and any weak planets are situated his> > > dasa apahara > ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics> > then it> > > > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi (begining> > > or> > > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble> > some ,sorrows > ,pains ,deseases> > > and various mishappes may be possible and if the > planets is in 30 th> > > degree its very dangerous may be it can cause > death also. 15) The> > > planet positioned with rahu and and > dispositor of sign were rahu> > > paositioned cannot deliver good > results of them and rahu will> > deliver> > > that results. 16) > planets positioned in purticular nashatra will> > aslo> > > give the > results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna> > more> > > > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub period> > > of> > > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord or who > is> > > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in weak> > > position in> > > rasi of malefic planets or houses such period will > be also trouble> > some.> > > 18) where ever malefic planets are > positioned they give results> > > according to its bhava in frst 1/3 > rd of dasa and then rasi phala> > next> > > 1/3 and then according to > planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of> > > those palnets. 19) if > any planet has got any malefics from 4th> > house> > > its position > during his dasa some problems regding property is> > possible.> > > > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa its> > > rasi> > > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of the > results> > will be> > > given to aspects and conjns of various > planets. 21)If benefic and> > > malefic is sitting together the dasa > of benefic will be bad and> > malefic> > > will be good . 22) any > planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka> > in> > > neecha he cannot > giv good results and if everse it will giv best> > results> > > . a)if > sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to> > > > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same sun> > > > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and> > > happyness> > > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in end of > the dasa b)> > Moon> > > also same results mentioned above but welfare > of mother shud be> > seen .> > > c)mars -if neechamsaka --bad for > brothers and kids and property> > > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi labham > ,dhana labham along with happyness> > from> > > brothers . d)budha is > neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of> > > intelligence ,and also our > actions will be judged very badly .> > > uchamsaka can giv first bad > then good positions and experiences> > e) jup> > > in neechamsaka > --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every> > body> > > ,even > our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka> > > > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in education> > > and> > > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse and> > > problems> > > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of luck ,less > money ,and> > change> > > is position to fall from position. in > uchamsaka - very good> > comforting> > > experiences ,good experince > regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and> > wealth> > > . g) sani in > neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the> > > hell in > this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and> > then> > > > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable wealth may> > > be> > > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best > results if> > > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona with > kendra lords> > and if> > > alone they giv the results of rasi lord > and also nakshatra lord> > > generaly rahu in first half of zodiac > gives best results and other> > half> > > is good for ketu It says > aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in> > good> > > bhavas good > results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi> > > ,happiness in > pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and> > > capricon and > virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from> > spouse> > > and > kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th> > and> > > > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who assossiated> > > with> > > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa lord > in> > their> > > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but if that > planets has> > drishti> > > pf good planets and also placed well in > chart the bad results are> > > nullified . same is the case of gulika > degree lords dasa again if> > good> > > planets are aspecting or guru > aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra> > this> > > results cancelles a > great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in> > > series and guru > dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very> > bad.> > > 27) > the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with rahu> > > also> > > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra -surya for > ladies> > kuja> > > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29)Dasa of > ashtama lord is> > bad> > > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30)3/6/11 th > lords if they are> > benefics> > > their dasa is supposed to be bad. > 31)moon and sun and lagna lord> > has> > > no ashtamadhi pathy dosha. > 32)see in which house from dasa lord> > the> > > apahara lord is > placed and results also will be according to the> > place> > > ment. > 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the> > deed> > > > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While> > > seeing any> > > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and lagna lord > and dasa> > lord and> > > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to the > results of dasa also> > transit> > > also plays a good role is making > a better or slow results And> > delinating> > > tru various vargas is > not mentioned here . ALSO I REQUEST> > SREENADH AND> > > OTHERS TO > COMMENT AND COME OUT WITH WORKING EXAMPLES SO AS TO> > BENEFIT> > > > GROUP MEMBERS.I AM JUST CHANNELING A DISCUSSION ALL ARE INVITED TO> > > > PARTICIPATE regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > Explore the seven wonders of the world > > http://search. > <http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world & mkt=en-US & form=QBRE> > msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world & mkt=en-US & form=QBRE > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Dear Madhu ji, The problem with charts put forward by a single person, and known to a single person is that - * there is only one person to verify the validity of the readings and * in essence the exercise will not give many the joy of participation experience. To avoid these pitfalls it is better to read the charts of natives, whom is well known (due to good or bad reason), but whose chart is not popular among the astrologers; at least among the group members. The individual suggesting the chart is not revealing the name of the native also, which will safe guard the joy and truthfulness of the exercise. But since the native and his life is well known later the majority members of the group can analysis and compare the results predicted against reality. Hope you will see the essence of the reason for my suggestion. Note 1: I never mentioned that it should be chart of a celebrity. Apart from celebrities there are many good and bad people around. As well many who contributed well in Literature, Administration, Science, Ancient Arts and so on. We can go for any such chart. Note 2: Here the proposed exercise is NOT for an individual (that we usually do by individual chart readings), but FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE GROUP. The point is " Thus every member should get a chance to evaluate the reading " . I hope you will agree that, this is possible only when the chart is of a popular individual. Love, Sreenadh , " Balagurusurya " <balagurusurya wrote: > > > Hi Ram, > > I agree with your views of studying unknown charts. Reason is , if we go > after celebriety charts, (mostly erroneus) ,they are not going to join > this group and tell us whether our analysis is correct or not. On the > contrary , if we comment on chart , like the one put forward by Ravi , > where the latter knows all life events of the former, we could easily > adjudge our own skills and pitfalls . > > I hope, Sreenadh will ponder , once again > > Best > > M Nair , " Ram Jaswal " > <rkjaswal@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Sreenadhji > > > > May I suggest otherwise? Most people can give lots of different > reasons as > > to why certain events occur during certain Dasha periods which can be > true > > as No single cause can always be attributed to it ie something can > occur due > > to Dasha's/Transits etc . Note there is also a " saying " that each Maha > Dasha > > should only be evaluated after seeing the " Prashna " for the moment of > the > > change in Dasha ... > > > > Wouldn't it be better to study an " unknown " chart to test the > " reading " > > ability of Dasha's etc? > > > > Thanks and hoping comments taken in a positive sense? > > > > Jai Sita Ram > > > > Ram > > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of > Sreenadh > > 02 September 2007 08:48 > > > > Re: Vimshottarry dasa analysis > > > > Dear Ravi ji, > > That is not enough. Confirm that many of the members of this > > group would be familiar with the life events of that person. He should > > be famous/popular due to some reason. If so we can proceed with the > > same, if not this horoscope won't be selected for the said exercise. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > astrology , " A. Ravindran Nair " > > rain13@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > Yes, that would be a good idea. A student like me can sharpen my > > skills. I can provide the data of a horoscope for analysis. > > > > > > Date of birth - 20-06-1979 Boy > > > Time of birth - 6.30 p.m. > > > Place of birth - Palghat > > > > > > I rather familiar with all the events in his life. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Ravi Nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @: sreesog@: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 > > 09:39:11 +0000 Re: Vimshottarry > > dasa analysis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji!You said:==>> I request u to analys any one chart and > > describe it based on > principles of astrology, which u can do it > > better than me .<== Ooops!! That is a trap! But yes, we will do that > > taking some chart -just for the sake of clarity (are we not doing it > > already?!; I thinkwhat we do in all chart reading is that itself!). * > > Let us take any chart (but don't mention whose it is), about whichmost > > of us may know, and provide. * Take a specific period (Dasa) in that > > individual's life. * Let us go through the results that would be > > predicted and latercompare it with actual results.This may serve 2 > > things. 1) The weight of previous knowledge contaminating predictions > > can beavoided.2) The reading would be still prediction rather than a > > post mortemanalysis.I request a third party (Srinivas ji, Panditji, > > Pradeep, Justin orsome one else) to provide a chart. Remember the > > chart should be ofsome one, about the life of whom, all of us know > > already.All those who do not know `whose chart it is', will have a go > > - onthe result predicted for that Dasa, for that individual. Let us > > try toknow how much astrology helps us in arriving at correct > > possibilities.Thus the preconditions are -. The predictions should be > > for a particular Vimsottari Dasa period only.. The references and > > technique used must be clarified in detail in thepost.Love,Sreenadh--- > > In ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology , " sunil > > nair " <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:>> > Hare ramakrishna,> > dear > > sreenadh,> > yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of command over > > laungage i> realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i planned to > > write it> .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys any one > > chart and> describe it based on principles of astrology,which u can do > > it better> than me .> > thanks and regrds> > sunil nair> > om shreem > > mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > --- In > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> > > wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Thanks for the very good and > > informative mail. But still I think> > the question, " Whether good, > > moderate or bad results should be> > predicted for a particular > > Dasa? " , which is given much importance in> > many texts and many > > methodologies are described for the same (as well> > summarized in > > your mail), is of less importance compared to the major> > question, > > " What are the results to be predicted for a particular> > Dasa? " , > > which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many> > texts > > that discusses the subject. The question with secondary status> > (a > > higher class subject) is given most importance and the question> > > > with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is given> > > > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is misled!> > > > They ask questions and try their level best to determine and talk a> > > > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad - > > results;> > but pitifully fails to determine " What results should be > > attributed> > to that period (Dasa)? " !!! Shouldn't we try to put the > > record> > straight?> > Shouldn't we try to recast the right > > perspective of -> > First, identifying the results that should be > > attributed to that> > Dasa; and then,> > Secondly, to identifying to > > what extend/amount (large, moderate,> > weak) that results to > > fructify?> > Of course for those who don't know the answer to the > > first> > question, the answer to the second question (which you to > > address> > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But to > > those who know> > the answer to the first question, your mail would be > > a much> > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would see > > this point.> > Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive description > > of the> > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second question> > > > addressed).> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > --- In > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology , " sunil nair " > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > Dear > > jyothishas and lovers of astrology,> > >> > > dasa analysis:-> > >> > > > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well established> > > > > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one hour> > > > window> > > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N rao ji > > they know s> > 40> > > kinds of differrent dasas and they collects > > datas and questions and> > > answerring it tru applying atleast 4 > > popular dasas applicable to the> > > chart and so they r very safe .> > > > > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is more> > > > > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results accordingly .for> > > > this we> > > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is lagna > > ,jupiter ,mer> > > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are making > > lagna very> > strong ,if> > > moon is more strong by above situations > > we must give importance to> > > moon.And take moon sign as lagna. some > > says till 30 years lagna> > then> > > upto 60 moon and later years sun > > shud also be treated as lagna and> > shud> > > say the results ,but i > > am not favring that as lagna is smallest> > unit and> > > happening > > within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna> > should> > > > > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless previous> > > > > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in> > > > > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and moon> > > > in end> > > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which ever > > results> > signified> > > it by it will be giving but this is only a > > general statement.> > > Depending on the positions and bhavas the > > palnets will giv various> > > results . fro eg - we can take some one > > has jupiter in 2nd> > house ,in one> > > chart its in dhanu rasi and > > in another chart its in makar rasi ,so> > in> > > both charts jupiter > > is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa> > > ,apahara(sub > > periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart> > its 2nd> > > > > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart the> > > > lagna> > > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no > > cancellation s of> > > neechatwa the effect will be bad also .Even > > though its dasa of lagna> > > lord . so i am trying to formulate some > > of the principles which> > can> > > be useful in seeing a dasa and > > results> > > > > -------------------------> > 1) see> > > > > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed and see> > > > its> > > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya stiti > > ( normal> > > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in ashta > > varga for this> > > planet ,positioned in favrable places like 10th > > ,11th,or lagna ,also> > > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas this r > > generaly considered> > good.> > > 2)gulika lord ship (dispositor of > > gulika --according to kerala> > > sampradaya) ,assossiation with > > gulika ,less points in ashta varga> > > ,sastru khsetra stithi ,neecha > > stithi ,combust ,yoga with> > malefics,rasi> > > santhi,and bhava > > santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if> > > positioned in > > upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be> > > good ,not > > the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and> > well> > > > > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled only in> > > > > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or> > > > benefics if> > > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions with> > > > ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra> > > kshetra stithi and if aspected by benefics > > or palced also in benefic> > > vargas the planets will giv good > > results 6)If dasa lord is> > strong and> > > and frnd of lagna lord > > good and favrable results can be expected .> > > 7)but if enmy of > > lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa> > > will be > > highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with> > a> > > > > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics will> > > > giv bad> > > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa lord is > > benefic or> > > functional benefic if well placed with strenght will > > giv good> > results> > > and mafefic or functional malefics ill placed > > and weak will giv bad> > > results . 10) if the planet is placed in > > sheershodaya sign it may> > giv> > > results in begining .and > > prishtodaya sign it will giv results in> > end and> > > if in > > ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad> > results .> > > > > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are > > sheershodaya(rising> > with> > > head signs) and aries > > ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are> > > prishtodaya signs (rising > > with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya> > sign> > > ( rising with > > both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if> > he is> > > > > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced for> > > > higher> > > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg > > --mercury is> > 6th> > > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if placed in > > virgo ,ucha rasi he> > will> > > be the best among dasas. 12)It says > > 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords> > from> > > janma nakshatra adhi pathy > > order will be supposed to be best> > dasas> > > 13) if 3rd house or > > 12th house and any weak planets are situated his> > > dasa apahara > > ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics> > then it> > > > > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi (begining> > > > or> > > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble> > some ,sorrows > > ,pains ,deseases> > > and various mishappes may be possible and if the > > planets is in 30 th> > > degree its very dangerous may be it can cause > > death also. 15) The> > > planet positioned with rahu and and > > dispositor of sign were rahu> > > paositioned cannot deliver good > > results of them and rahu will> > deliver> > > that results. 16) > > planets positioned in purticular nashatra will> > aslo> > > give the > > results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna> > more> > > > > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub period> > > > of> > > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord or who > > is> > > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in weak> > > > position in> > > rasi of malefic planets or houses such period will > > be also trouble> > some.> > > 18) where ever malefic planets are > > positioned they give results> > > according to its bhava in frst 1/3 > > rd of dasa and then rasi phala> > next> > > 1/3 and then according to > > planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of> > > those palnets. 19) if > > any planet has got any malefics from 4th> > house> > > its position > > during his dasa some problems regding property is> > possible.> > > > > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa its> > > > rasi> > > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of the > > results> > will be> > > given to aspects and conjns of various > > planets. 21)If benefic and> > > malefic is sitting together the dasa > > of benefic will be bad and> > malefic> > > will be good . 22) any > > planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka> > in> > > neecha he cannot > > giv good results and if everse it will giv best> > results> > > . a)if > > sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to> > > > > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same sun> > > > > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and> > > > happyness> > > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in end of > > the dasa b)> > Moon> > > also same results mentioned above but welfare > > of mother shud be> > seen .> > > c)mars -if neechamsaka --bad for > > brothers and kids and property> > > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi labham > > ,dhana labham along with happyness> > from> > > brothers . d)budha is > > neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of> > > intelligence ,and also our > > actions will be judged very badly .> > > uchamsaka can giv first bad > > then good positions and experiences> > e) jup> > > in neechamsaka > > --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every> > body> > > ,even > > our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka> > > > > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in education> > > > and> > > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse and> > > > problems> > > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of luck ,less > > money ,and> > change> > > is position to fall from position. in > > uchamsaka - very good> > comforting> > > experiences ,good experince > > regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and> > wealth> > > . g) sani in > > neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the> > > hell in > > this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and> > then> > > > > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable wealth may> > > > be> > > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best > > results if> > > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona with > > kendra lords> > and if> > > alone they giv the results of rasi lord > > and also nakshatra lord> > > generaly rahu in first half of zodiac > > gives best results and other> > half> > > is good for ketu It says > > aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in> > good> > > bhavas good > > results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi> > > ,happiness in > > pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and> > > capricon and > > virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from> > spouse> > > and > > kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th> > and> > > > > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who assossiated> > > > with> > > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa lord > > in> > their> > > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but if that > > planets has> > drishti> > > pf good planets and also placed well in > > chart the bad results are> > > nullified . same is the case of gulika > > degree lords dasa again if> > good> > > planets are aspecting or guru > > aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra> > this> > > results cancelles a > > great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in> > > series and guru > > dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very> > bad.> > > 27) > > the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with rahu> > > > also> > > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra -surya for > > ladies> > kuja> > > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29)Dasa of > > ashtama lord is> > bad> > > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30)3/6/11 th > > lords if they are> > benefics> > > their dasa is supposed to be bad. > > 31)moon and sun and lagna lord> > has> > > no ashtamadhi pathy dosha. > > 32)see in which house from dasa lord> > the> > > apahara lord is > > placed and results also will be according to the> > place> > > ment. > > 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the> > deed> > > > > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While> > > > seeing any> > > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and lagna lord > > and dasa> > lord and> > > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to the > > results of dasa also> > transit> > > also plays a good role is making > > a better or slow results And> > delinating> > > tru various vargas is > > not mentioned here . ALSO I REQUEST> > SREENADH AND> > > OTHERS TO > > COMMENT AND COME OUT WITH WORKING EXAMPLES SO AS TO> > BENEFIT> > > > > GROUP MEMBERS.I AM JUST CHANNELING A DISCUSSION ALL ARE INVITED TO> > > > > PARTICIPATE regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > Explore the seven wonders of the world > > > http://search. > > > <http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world & mkt=en-US & form=QBR\ > E> > > msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world & mkt=en-US & form=QBRE > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Dear Sreenadhji, Yes, that would be a good idea. I just suggested one data for the sake of it, then I realised that I will not be able to take part in the exercise and there is nothing for me to study. Regards Ravi Nair , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Madhu ji, > The problem with charts put forward by a single person, and known to > a single person is that - > * there is only one person to verify the validity of the readings and > * in essence the exercise will not give many the joy of participation > experience. > To avoid these pitfalls it is better to read the charts of natives, > whom is well known (due to good or bad reason), but whose chart is not > popular among the astrologers; at least among the group members. The > individual suggesting the chart is not revealing the name of the > native also, which will safe guard the joy and truthfulness of the > exercise. But since the native and his life is well known later the > majority members of the group can analysis and compare the results > predicted against reality. > Hope you will see the essence of the reason for my suggestion. > > Note 1: I never mentioned that it should be chart of a celebrity. > Apart from celebrities there are many good and bad people around. As > well many who contributed well in Literature, Administration, Science, > Ancient Arts and so on. We can go for any such chart. > > Note 2: Here the proposed exercise is NOT for an individual (that we > usually do by individual chart readings), but FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE > GROUP. The point is " Thus every member should get a chance to evaluate > the reading " . I hope you will agree that, this is possible only when > the chart is of a popular individual. > > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " Balagurusurya " > <balagurusurya@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Ram, > > > > I agree with your views of studying unknown charts. Reason is , if we go > > after celebriety charts, (mostly erroneus) ,they are not going to join > > this group and tell us whether our analysis is correct or not. On the > > contrary , if we comment on chart , like the one put forward by Ravi , > > where the latter knows all life events of the former, we could easily > > adjudge our own skills and pitfalls . > > > > I hope, Sreenadh will ponder , once again > > > > Best > > > > M Nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Ram Jaswal " > > <rkjaswal@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sreenadhji > > > > > > May I suggest otherwise? Most people can give lots of different > > reasons as > > > to why certain events occur during certain Dasha periods which can be > > true > > > as No single cause can always be attributed to it ie something can > > occur due > > > to Dasha's/Transits etc . Note there is also a " saying " that each Maha > > Dasha > > > should only be evaluated after seeing the " Prashna " for the moment of > > the > > > change in Dasha ... > > > > > > Wouldn't it be better to study an " unknown " chart to test the > > " reading " > > > ability of Dasha's etc? > > > > > > Thanks and hoping comments taken in a positive sense? > > > > > > Jai Sita Ram > > > > > > Ram > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > Sreenadh > > > 02 September 2007 08:48 > > > > > > Re: Vimshottarry dasa analysis > > > > > > Dear Ravi ji, > > > That is not enough. Confirm that many of the members of this > > > group would be familiar with the life events of that person. He should > > > be famous/popular due to some reason. If so we can proceed with the > > > same, if not this horoscope won't be selected for the said exercise. > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > > astrology , " A. Ravindran Nair " > > > rain13@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > > > Yes, that would be a good idea. A student like me can sharpen my > > > skills. I can provide the data of a horoscope for analysis. > > > > > > > > Date of birth - 20-06-1979 Boy > > > > Time of birth - 6.30 p.m. > > > > Place of birth - Palghat > > > > > > > > I rather familiar with all the events in his life. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Ravi Nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @: sreesog@: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 > > > 09:39:11 +0000 Re: Vimshottarry > > > dasa analysis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji!You said:==>> I request u to analys any one chart and > > > describe it based on > principles of astrology, which u can do it > > > better than me .<== Ooops!! That is a trap! But yes, we will do that > > > taking some chart -just for the sake of clarity (are we not doing it > > > already?!; I thinkwhat we do in all chart reading is that itself!). * > > > Let us take any chart (but don't mention whose it is), about whichmost > > > of us may know, and provide. * Take a specific period (Dasa) in that > > > individual's life. * Let us go through the results that would be > > > predicted and latercompare it with actual results.This may serve 2 > > > things. 1) The weight of previous knowledge contaminating predictions > > > can beavoided.2) The reading would be still prediction rather than a > > > post mortemanalysis.I request a third party (Srinivas ji, Panditji, > > > Pradeep, Justin orsome one else) to provide a chart. Remember the > > > chart should be ofsome one, about the life of whom, all of us know > > > already.All those who do not know `whose chart it is', will have a go > > > - onthe result predicted for that Dasa, for that individual. Let us > > > try toknow how much astrology helps us in arriving at correct > > > possibilities.Thus the preconditions are -. The predictions should be > > > for a particular Vimsottari Dasa period only.. The references and > > > technique used must be clarified in detail in thepost.Love,Sreenadh--- > > > In ancient_indian_ <% 40> > > > astrology , " sunil > > > nair " <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:>> > Hare ramakrishna,> > dear > > > sreenadh,> > yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of command over > > > laungage i> realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i planned to > > > write it> .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys any one > > > chart and> describe it based on principles of astrology,which u can do > > > it better> than me .> > thanks and regrds> > sunil nair> > om shreem > > > mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > --- In > > > ancient_indian_ <% 40> > > > astrology , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> > > > wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Thanks for the very good and > > > informative mail. But still I think> > the question, " Whether good, > > > moderate or bad results should be> > predicted for a particular > > > Dasa? " , which is given much importance in> > many texts and many > > > methodologies are described for the same (as well> > summarized in > > > your mail), is of less importance compared to the major> > question, > > > " What are the results to be predicted for a particular> > Dasa? " , > > > which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many> > texts > > > that discusses the subject. The question with secondary status> > (a > > > higher class subject) is given most importance and the question> > > > > with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is given> > > > > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is misled!> > > > > They ask questions and try their level best to determine and talk a> > > > > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad - > > > results;> > but pitifully fails to determine " What results should be > > > attributed> > to that period (Dasa)? " !!! Shouldn't we try to put the > > > record> > straight?> > Shouldn't we try to recast the right > > > perspective of -> > First, identifying the results that should be > > > attributed to that> > Dasa; and then,> > Secondly, to identifying to > > > what extend/amount (large, moderate,> > weak) that results to > > > fructify?> > Of course for those who don't know the answer to the > > > first> > question, the answer to the second question (which you to > > > address> > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But to > > > those who know> > the answer to the first question, your mail would be > > > a much> > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would see > > > this point.> > Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive description > > > of the> > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second question> > > > > addressed).> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > --- In > > > ancient_indian_ <% 40> > > > astrology , " sunil nair " > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > Dear > > > jyothishas and lovers of astrology,> > >> > > dasa analysis:-> > >> > > > > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well established> > > > > > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one hour> > > > > window> > > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N rao ji > > > they know s> > 40> > > kinds of differrent dasas and they collects > > > datas and questions and> > > answerring it tru applying atleast 4 > > > popular dasas applicable to the> > > chart and so they r very safe .> > > > > > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is more> > > > > > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results accordingly .for> > > > > this we> > > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is lagna > > > ,jupiter ,mer> > > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are making > > > lagna very> > strong ,if> > > moon is more strong by above situations > > > we must give importance to> > > moon.And take moon sign as lagna. some > > > says till 30 years lagna> > then> > > upto 60 moon and later years sun > > > shud also be treated as lagna and> > shud> > > say the results ,but i > > > am not favring that as lagna is smallest> > unit and> > > happening > > > within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna> > should> > > > > > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless previous> > > > > > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in> > > > > > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and moon> > > > > in end> > > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which ever > > > results> > signified> > > it by it will be giving but this is only a > > > general statement.> > > Depending on the positions and bhavas the > > > palnets will giv various> > > results . fro eg - we can take some one > > > has jupiter in 2nd> > house ,in one> > > chart its in dhanu rasi and > > > in another chart its in makar rasi ,so> > in> > > both charts jupiter > > > is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa> > > ,apahara(sub > > > periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart> > its 2nd> > > > > > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart the> > > > > lagna> > > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no > > > cancellation s of> > > neechatwa the effect will be bad also .Even > > > though its dasa of lagna> > > lord . so i am trying to formulate some > > > of the principles which> > can> > > be useful in seeing a dasa and > > > results> > > > > > -------------------------> > 1) see> > > > > > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed and see> > > > > its> > > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya stiti > > > ( normal> > > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in ashta > > > varga for this> > > planet ,positioned in favrable places like 10th > > > ,11th,or lagna ,also> > > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas this r > > > generaly considered> > good.> > > 2)gulika lord ship (dispositor of > > > gulika --according to kerala> > > sampradaya) ,assossiation with > > > gulika ,less points in ashta varga> > > ,sastru khsetra stithi ,neecha > > > stithi ,combust ,yoga with> > malefics,rasi> > > santhi,and bhava > > > santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if> > > positioned in > > > upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be> > > good ,not > > > the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and> > well> > > > > > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled only in> > > > > > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or> > > > > benefics if> > > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions with> > > > > ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra> > > kshetra stithi and if aspected by benefics > > > or palced also in benefic> > > vargas the planets will giv good > > > results 6)If dasa lord is> > strong and> > > and frnd of lagna lord > > > good and favrable results can be expected .> > > 7)but if enmy of > > > lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa> > > will be > > > highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with> > a> > > > > > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics will> > > > > giv bad> > > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa lord is > > > benefic or> > > functional benefic if well placed with strenght will > > > giv good> > results> > > and mafefic or functional malefics ill placed > > > and weak will giv bad> > > results . 10) if the planet is placed in > > > sheershodaya sign it may> > giv> > > results in begining .and > > > prishtodaya sign it will giv results in> > end and> > > if in > > > ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad> > results .> > > > > > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are > > > sheershodaya(rising> > with> > > head signs) and aries > > > ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are> > > prishtodaya signs (rising > > > with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya> > sign> > > ( rising with > > > both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if> > he is> > > > > > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced for> > > > > higher> > > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg > > > --mercury is> > 6th> > > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if placed in > > > virgo ,ucha rasi he> > will> > > be the best among dasas. 12)It says > > > 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords> > from> > > janma nakshatra adhi pathy > > > order will be supposed to be best> > dasas> > > 13) if 3rd house or > > > 12th house and any weak planets are situated his> > > dasa apahara > > > ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics> > then it> > > > > > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi (begining> > > > > or> > > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble> > some ,sorrows > > > ,pains ,deseases> > > and various mishappes may be possible and if the > > > planets is in 30 th> > > degree its very dangerous may be it can cause > > > death also. 15) The> > > planet positioned with rahu and and > > > dispositor of sign were rahu> > > paositioned cannot deliver good > > > results of them and rahu will> > deliver> > > that results. 16) > > > planets positioned in purticular nashatra will> > aslo> > > give the > > > results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna> > more> > > > > > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub period> > > > > of> > > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord or who > > > is> > > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in weak> > > > > position in> > > rasi of malefic planets or houses such period will > > > be also trouble> > some.> > > 18) where ever malefic planets are > > > positioned they give results> > > according to its bhava in frst 1/3 > > > rd of dasa and then rasi phala> > next> > > 1/3 and then according to > > > planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of> > > those palnets. 19) if > > > any planet has got any malefics from 4th> > house> > > its position > > > during his dasa some problems regding property is> > possible.> > > > > > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa its> > > > > rasi> > > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of the > > > results> > will be> > > given to aspects and conjns of various > > > planets. 21)If benefic and> > > malefic is sitting together the dasa > > > of benefic will be bad and> > malefic> > > will be good . 22) any > > > planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka> > in> > > neecha he cannot > > > giv good results and if everse it will giv best> > results> > > . a)if > > > sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to> > > > > > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same sun> > > > > > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and> > > > > happyness> > > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in end of > > > the dasa b)> > Moon> > > also same results mentioned above but welfare > > > of mother shud be> > seen .> > > c)mars -if neechamsaka --bad for > > > brothers and kids and property> > > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi labham > > > ,dhana labham along with happyness> > from> > > brothers . d) budha is > > > neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of> > > intelligence ,and also our > > > actions will be judged very badly .> > > uchamsaka can giv first bad > > > then good positions and experiences> > e) jup> > > in neechamsaka > > > --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every> > body> > > ,even > > > our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka> > > > > > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in education> > > > > and> > > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse and> > > > > problems> > > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of luck ,less > > > money ,and> > change> > > is position to fall from position. in > > > uchamsaka - very good> > comforting> > > experiences ,good experince > > > regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and> > wealth> > > . g) sani in > > > neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the> > > hell in > > > this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and> > then> > > > > > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable wealth may> > > > > be> > > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best > > > results if> > > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona with > > > kendra lords> > and if> > > alone they giv the results of rasi lord > > > and also nakshatra lord> > > generaly rahu in first half of zodiac > > > gives best results and other> > half> > > is good for ketu It says > > > aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in> > good> > > bhavas good > > > results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi> > > ,happiness in > > > pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and> > > capricon and > > > virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from> > spouse> > > and > > > kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th> > and> > > > > > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who assossiated> > > > > with> > > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa lord > > > in> > their> > > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but if that > > > planets has> > drishti> > > pf good planets and also placed well in > > > chart the bad results are> > > nullified . same is the case of gulika > > > degree lords dasa again if> > good> > > planets are aspecting or guru > > > aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra> > this> > > results cancelles a > > > great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in> > > series and guru > > > dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very> > bad.> > > 27) > > > the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with rahu> > > > > also> > > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra - surya for > > > ladies> > kuja> > > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29) Dasa of > > > ashtama lord is> > bad> > > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30) 3/6/11 th > > > lords if they are> > benefics> > > their dasa is supposed to be bad. > > > 31)moon and sun and lagna lord> > has> > > no ashtamadhi pathy dosha. > > > 32)see in which house from dasa lord> > the> > > apahara lord is > > > placed and results also will be according to the> > place> > > ment. > > > 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the> > deed> > > > > > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While> > > > > seeing any> > > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and lagna lord > > > and dasa> > lord and> > > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to the > > > results of dasa also> > transit> > > also plays a good role is making > > > a better or slow results And> > delinating> > > tru various vargas is > > > not mentioned here . ALSO I REQUEST> > SREENADH AND> > > OTHERS TO > > > COMMENT AND COME OUT WITH WORKING EXAMPLES SO AS TO> > BENEFIT> > > > > > GROUP MEMBERS.I AM JUST CHANNELING A DISCUSSION ALL ARE INVITED TO> > > > > > PARTICIPATE regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > Explore the seven wonders of the world > > > > http://search. > > > > > > <http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world & mkt=en- US & form=QBR\ > > E> > > > msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world & mkt=en-US & form=QBRE > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Dear Ravi, Thanks for the feedback. As per the revised BT, Asc is 00Sag46(As per Lahiri) ., the cuspal beginning , an indication, that at the time of birth of the native , his family was not financially well off . Native will also be extremely attached to his mother . Can you comment on these two points ? After hearing from you , I will again revert to Ve subperiod of Moon dasha Best MNair , "rain13club" <rain13 wrote:>> Dear M Nair,> > Great !!! You are hitting the targets !!> > I had a specific reason for giving the data of this person, because > of his achievements.> > Extremely sorry, there is a little correction in the timing, it is > 6.25 p.m. and not 6.30 p.m.> > He is not married. His only younger sister's marriage was done in > Moon-Mercury period, to be precise on 27-10-2005.> > He already resigned his job on June 1, 2007, but not for a change of > employer but to continue studies.> > Regards> > Ravi Nair> > > > > > > > > , "Balagurusurya" > balagurusurya@ wrote:> >> > > > > > > > Hi Ravi,> > > > Subject born with 01Sag54 (As per Lahiri's ayanamsa) is currently> > passing through Mn/Ve> > > > ---Both Mn & Ve are female planets. Mn, the major period lord is > L8 of> > marital bond, placed in H5 ,that unites couples.> > > > Ve, the subperiod ruler , is the planet of conjugal bliss and > as L11> > of new acquaintance , stationed in Taurus , the 2nd of natural > zodiac> > representing family. In D-9, Ve owns H7 of spouse.> > > > As such , the native , if unmarried, will get married in Ve sub > period> > .If already married, this Ve period will give child birth.> > > > Alternatively , the Ve period may see the wedding of co-borns, I > mean,> > siblings, if any> > > > Further ,there will be a change in job/service Reason ---Sat, L3 of> > change ,aspect Ve , the subperiod ruler in the birth chart . This> > aspect, is reonforced by the current Saturn Return .> > > > Ve sub period ,runs upto 30Aug,2008, . It is a long way to > go .Still> > out of accademic interest , I am asking you, can you confirm or > deny> > any of my readings , since you know the native very well ?> > > > Anticipating your reply> > > > Best> > > > M Nair> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "rain13club"> > <rain13@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadhji,> > >> > > Sincerely speaking, I do not think much people would be knowing > this> > > personality.> > >> > > I would leave it to other members to come up with a suitable> > > horoscope.> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Ravi Nair> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "Sreenadh"> > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ravi ji,> > > > That is not enough. Confirm that many of the members of this> > > > group would be familiar with the life events of that person. He> > > should> > > > be famous/popular due to some reason. If so we can proceed > with the> > > > same, if not this horoscope won't be selected for the said> > > exercise.> > > > Love,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >> > > > , "A. Ravindran> > > Nair"> > > > <rain13@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sreenadhji,> > > > >> > > > > Yes, that would be a good idea. A student like me can > sharpen my> > > > skills. I can provide the data of a horoscope for analysis.> > > > >> > > > > Date of birth - 20-06-1979 Boy> > > > > Time of birth - 6.30 p.m.> > > > > Place of birth - Palghat> > > > >> > > > > I rather familiar with all the events in his life.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > > Ravi Nair> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > @: sreesog@: Sat, 1 Sep 2007> > > > 09:39:11 +0000 Re: > Vimshottarry> > > > dasa analysis> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sunil ji!You said:==>> I request u to analys any one > chart> > > and> > > > describe it based on > principles of astrology, which u can do > it> > > > better than me .<== Ooops!! That is a trap! But yes, we will do> > > that> > > > taking some chart -just for the sake of clarity (are we not > doing> > > it> > > > already?!; I thinkwhat we do in all chart reading is that> > > itself!). *> > > > Let us take any chart (but don't mention whose it is), about> > > whichmost> > > > of us may know, and provide. * Take a specific period (Dasa) in> > > that> > > > individual's life. * Let us go through the results that would > be> > > > predicted and latercompare it with actual results.This may > serve 2> > > > things. 1) The weight of previous knowledge contaminating> > > predictions> > > > can beavoided.2) The reading would be still prediction rather > than> > > a> > > > post mortemanalysis.I request a third party (Srinivas ji, > Panditji,> > > > Pradeep, Justin orsome one else) to provide a chart. Remember > the> > > > chart should be ofsome one, about the life of whom, all of us > know> > > > already.All those who do not know `whose chart it is', will > have a> > > go> > > > - onthe result predicted for that Dasa, for that individual. > Let us> > > > try toknow how much astrology helps us in arriving at correct> > > > possibilities.Thus the preconditions are –• The predictions> > should> > > be> > > > for a particular Vimsottari Dasa period only.• The references> > and> > > > technique used must be clarified in detail in> > > thepost.Love,Sreenadh---> > > > In , "sunil> > > > nair"<astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:>> > Hare ramakrishna,> > dear> > > > sreenadh,> > yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of command> > > over> > > > laungage i> realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i> > > planned to> > > > write it> .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys > any> > > one> > > > chart and> describe it based on principles of astrology,which u> > > can do> > > > it better> than me .> > thanks and regrds> > sunil nair> > om> > > shreem> > > > mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > --- In> > > > , "Sreenadh"> > <sreesog@>> > > > wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Thanks for the very good and> > > > informative mail. But still I think> > the question, "Whether > good,> > > > moderate or bad results should be> > predicted for a particular> > > > Dasa?", which is given much importance in> > many texts and > many> > > > methodologies are described for the same (as well> > > summarized in> > > > your mail), is of less importance compared to the major> >> > > question,> > > > "What are the results to be predicted for a particular> > > Dasa?",> > > > which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many> >> > > texts> > > > that discusses the subject. The question with secondary > status> >> > > (a> > > > higher class subject) is given most importance and the > question> >> > > > with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is> > > given>> > > > > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is> > > misled!>> > > > > They ask questions and try their level best to determine and> > > talk a>> > > > > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad -> > > > results;> > but pitifully fails to determine "What results > should> > > be> > > > attributed> > to that period (Dasa)?"!!! Shouldn't we try to > put> > > the> > > > record> > straight?> > Shouldn't we try to recast the right> > > > perspective of -> > First, identifying the results that should > be> > > > attributed to that> > Dasa; and then,> > Secondly, to > identifying> > > to> > > > what extend/amount (large, moderate,> > weak) that results to> > > > fructify?> > Of course for those who don't know the answer to > the> > > > first> > question, the answer to the second question (which > you to> > > > address> > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But > to> > > > those who know> > the answer to the first question, your mail> > > would be> > > > a much> > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would > see> > > > this point.> > Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive> > > description> > > > of the> > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second> > > question>> > > > > addressed).> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > --- In> > > > , "sunil nair"> >> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > > Dear> > > > jyothishas and lovers of astrology,> > >> > > dasa analysis:-> > >> > > >> >> > > > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well> > > established> >> > > > > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one > hour>> > > >> > > > window> > > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N > rao ji> > > > they know s> > 40> > > kinds of differrent dasas and they > collects> > > > datas and questions and> > > answerring it tru applying > atleast 4> > > > popular dasas applicable to the> > > chart and so they r very> > > safe .>> > > > > > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is> > > more> >> > > > > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results > accordingly .for>> > > >> > > > this we> > > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is > lagna> > > > ,jupiter ,mer> > > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are > making> > > > lagna very> > strong ,if> > > moon is more strong by above> > > situations> > > > we must give importance to> > > moon.And take moon sign as > lagna.> > > some> > > > says till 30 years lagna> > then> > > upto 60 moon and later > years> > > sun> > > > shud also be treated as lagna and> > shud> > > say the> > > results ,but i> > > > am not favring that as lagna is smallest> > unit and> > > > happening> > > > within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna> > > should> >> > > >> > > > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless > previous>> > > > >> > > > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in> > > >> > > > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and > moon>> > > >> > > > in end> > > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which > ever> > > > results> > signified> > > it by it will be giving but this is > only> > > a> > > > general statement.> > > Depending on the positions and bhavas > the> > > > palnets will giv various> > > results . fro eg - we can take > some> > > one> > > > has jupiter in 2nd> > house ,in one> > > chart its in dhanu > rasi> > > and> > > > in another chart its in makar rasi ,so> > in> > > both charts> > > jupiter> > > > is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa> > > ,apahara(sub> > > > periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart> > its 2nd> > > >> > > > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart> > > the> >> > > > lagna> > > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no> > > > cancellation s of> > > neechatwa the effect will be bad > also .Even> > > > though its dasa of lagna> > > lord . so i am trying to > formulate> > > some> > > > of the principles which> > can> > > be useful in seeing a dasa > and> > > > results> > >> > > > -------------------------> > > 1)> > > see>> > > > > > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed > and> > > see>> > > > > its> > > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya> > > stiti> > > > ( normal> > > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in > ashta> > > > varga for this> > > planet ,positioned in favrable places like > 10th> > > > ,11th,or lagna ,also> > > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas > this r> > > > generaly considered> > good.> > > 2)gulika lord ship > (dispositor of> > > > gulika --according to kerala> > > sampradaya) ,assossiation > with> > > > gulika ,less points in ashta varga> > > ,sastru khsetra> > > stithi ,neecha> > > > stithi ,combust ,yoga with> > malefics,rasi> > > santhi,and > bhava> > > > santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if> > > positioned > in> > > > upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be> > >> > > good ,not> > > > the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and> > > well> >> > > >> > > > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled > only> > > in>> > > > > > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or> >> > > > benefics if> > > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions > with> >> > > > ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra> > > kshetra stithi and if aspected by> > > benefics> > > > or palced also in benefic> > > vargas the planets will giv good> > > > results 6)If dasa lord is> > strong and> > > and frnd of lagna > lord> > > > good and favrable results can be expected .> > > 7)but if enmy > of> > > > lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa> > > will > be> > > > highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with> > a> > > >> > > > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics > will> >> > > > giv bad> > > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa > lord> > > is> > > > benefic or> > > functional benefic if well placed with strenght> > > will> > > > giv good> > results> > > and mafefic or functional malefics ill> > > placed> > > > and weak will giv bad> > > results . 10) if the planet is > placed in> > > > sheershodaya sign it may> > giv> > > results in begining .and> > > > prishtodaya sign it will giv results in> > end and> > > if in> > > > ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad> >> > > results .>> > > > > > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are> > > > sheershodaya(rising> > with> > > head signs) and aries> > > > ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are> > > prishtodaya signs> > > (rising> > > > with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya> > sign> > > ( rising > with> > > > both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if> > he is> > > >> > > > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced > for> >> > > > higher> > > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg> > > > --mercury is> > 6th> > > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if> > > placed in> > > > virgo ,ucha rasi he> > will> > > be the best among dasas. 12)It> > > says> > > > 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords> > from> > > janma nakshatra adhi> > > pathy> > > > order will be supposed to be best> > dasas> > > 13) if 3rd > house or> > > > 12th house and any weak planets are situated his> > > dasa > apahara> > > > ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics> > then > it> > >> > > > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi > (begining> >> > > > or> > > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble> > > some ,sorrows> > > > ,pains ,deseases> > > and various mishappes may be possible > and if> > > the> > > > planets is in 30 th> > > degree its very dangerous may be it > can> > > cause> > > > death also. 15) The> > > planet positioned with rahu and and> > > > dispositor of sign were rahu> > > paositioned cannot deliver > good> > > > results of them and rahu will> > deliver> > > that results. 16)> > > > planets positioned in purticular nashatra will> > aslo> > > > give> > > the> > > > results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna> > > more>> > > > >> > > > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub > period> >> > > > of> > > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord > or> > > who> > > > is> > > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in> > > weak>> > > > > position in> > > rasi of malefic planets or houses such > period> > > will> > > > be also trouble> > some.> > > 18) where ever malefic planets > are> > > > positioned they give results> > > according to its bhava in > frst> > > 1/3> > > > rd of dasa and then rasi phala> > next> > > 1/3 and then > according> > > to> > > > planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of> > > those palnets. > 19)> > > if> > > > any planet has got any malefics from 4th> > house> > > its > position> > > > during his dasa some problems regding property is> > > possible.> > >> > > > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa > its> >> > > > rasi> > > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of > the> > > > results> > will be> > > given to aspects and conjns of various> > > > planets. 21)If benefic and> > > malefic is sitting together the> > > dasa> > > > of benefic will be bad and> > malefic> > > will be good . 22) > any> > > > planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka> > in> > > neecha he> > > cannot> > > > giv good results and if everse it will giv best> > results> > > > .> > > a)if> > > > sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to> > > >> > > > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same > sun>> > > > >> > > > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and> > >> > > > happyness> > > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in > end of> > > > the dasa b)> > Moon> > > also same results mentioned above but> > > welfare> > > > of mother shud be> > seen .> > > c)mars -if neechamsaka --bad > for> > > > brothers and kids and property> > > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi > labham> > > > ,dhana labham along with happyness> > from> > > brothers . d)> budha> > > is> > > > neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of> > > intelligence ,and > also> > > our> > > > actions will be judged very badly .> > > uchamsaka can giv > first> > > bad> > > > then good positions and experiences> > e) jup> > > in > neechamsaka> > > > --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every> > body> >> > > > ,even> > > > our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka> > > >> > > > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in> > > education> >> > > > and> > > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse> > > and> >> > > > problems> > > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of> > > luck ,less> > > > money ,and> > change> > > is position to fall from position. in> > > > uchamsaka - very good> > comforting> > > experiences ,good> > > experince> > > > regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and> > wealth> > > . g) sani > in> > > > neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the> > > > hell in> > > > this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and> >> > > then> >> > > > > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable > wealth> > > may>> > > > > be> > > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best> > > > results if> > > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona > with> > > > kendra lords> > and if> > > alone they giv the results of rasi > lord> > > > and also nakshatra lord> > > generaly rahu in first half of > zodiac> > > > gives best results and other> > half> > > is good for ketu It > says> > > > aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in> > good> > > bhavas > good> > > > results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi> >> > > > ,happiness in> > > > pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and> > > > capricon> > > and> > > > virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from> > spouse> > > >> > > and> > > > kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th> >> > > and> >> > > > > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who> > > assossiated> >> > > > with> > > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa> > > lord> > > > in> > their> > > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but > if> > > that> > > > planets has> > drishti> > > pf good planets and also placed > well in> > > > chart the bad results are> > > nullified . same is the case of> > > gulika> > > > degree lords dasa again if> > good> > > planets are aspecting > or> > > guru> > > > aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra> > this> > > results> > > cancelles a> > > > great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in> > > series and > guru> > > > dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very> > bad.> > > > 27)> > > > the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with > rahu> >> > > > also> > > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra -> surya> > > for> > > > ladies> > kuja> > > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29)> Dasa> > > of> > > > ashtama lord is> > bad> > > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30)> > > 3/6/11 th> > > > lords if they are> > benefics> > > their dasa is supposed to be> > > bad.> > > > 31)moon and sun and lagna lord> > has> > > no ashtamadhi pathy> > > dosha.> > > > 32)see in which house from dasa lord> > the> > > apahara lord > is> > > > placed and results also will be according to the> > place> > >> > > ment.> > > > 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the> >> > > deed> >> > > > > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While> > >> > > > seeing any> > > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and > lagna> > > lord> > > > and dasa> > lord and> > > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to > the> > > > results of dasa also> > transit> > > also plays a good role is> > > making> > > > a better or slow results And> > delinating> > > tru various > vargas> > > is> > > > not mentioned here . ALSO I REQUEST> > SREENADH AND> > > > OTHERS TO> > > > COMMENT AND COME OUT WITH WORKING EXAMPLES SO AS TO> > > BENEFIT> > >> > > > GROUP MEMBERS.I AM JUST CHANNELING A DISCUSSION ALL ARE INVITED> > > TO> >> > > > > PARTICIPATE regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > >>> > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > _______________> > > > > Explore the seven wonders of the world> > > > > http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world & mkt=en-> > > US & form=QBRE> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Dear Madhu ji and Ravi ji, Madhu ji, Congratulations for the good prediction! I appreciate the predictive power of Madhu ji. He is a really a good astrologer. I appreciate his enthusiasm in the exercise as well. But I will request you to consider the following points - 1) This exercise we are conducting not to prove astrology, but to help the beginners to understand the methodology of deriving results for Dasa (based on planetary combinations). 2) We should follow a well-disciplined academic approach in dealing with the future charts. And mention the Year Length and Ayanamsa used for the reading. 3) The individual who presents the chart SHOULD NOT participate in the discussion and SHOULDN'T reveal the life details of the native while the exercise is going on. 4) It is just a learning/teaching exercise to help the beginners get a gist of methodology used; and IT IS NOT an excurses to prove astrology, to entertain any kind of competition among the participants, or to test the caliber of astrologers participating in it. Any astrologer is free to err (usually many will in some or the other exercises) and the point is mastering the technique and helping the group members to master it. The point of interest would be " what is the right methodology to apply in Dasa predictions and how much successful is it in giving right results " . 5) Let us make this kind of exercises a continuous process in this group, cultivating a healthy well-disciplined academic approach among the members. If we were applying the individual chart reading style to the proposed exercise, above said purpose of " well disciplined academic approach with the aim of helping the group members to learn the method " would be lost. So I request you to propagate this strategy among the group members in such exercises. Love, Sreenadh , " rain13club " <rain13 wrote: > > Dear M Nair, > > Great !!! You are hitting the targets !! > > I had a specific reason for giving the data of this person, because > of his achievements. > > Extremely sorry, there is a little correction in the timing, it is > 6.25 p.m. and not 6.30 p.m. > > He is not married. His only younger sister's marriage was done in > Moon-Mercury period, to be precise on 27-10-2005. > > He already resigned his job on June 1, 2007, but not for a change of > employer but to continue studies. > > Regards > > Ravi Nair > > , " Balagurusurya " > <balagurusurya@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ravi, > > > > Subject born with 01Sag54 (As per Lahiri's ayanamsa) is currently > > passing through Mn/Ve > > > > ---Both Mn & Ve are female planets. Mn, the major period lord is > L8 of > > marital bond, placed in H5 ,that unites couples. > > > > Ve, the subperiod ruler , is the planet of conjugal bliss and > as L11 > > of new acquaintance , stationed in Taurus , the 2nd of natural > zodiac > > representing family. In D-9, Ve owns H7 of spouse. > > > > As such , the native , if unmarried, will get married in Ve sub > period > > .If already married, this Ve period will give child birth. > > > > Alternatively , the Ve period may see the wedding of co-borns, I > mean, > > siblings, if any > > > > Further ,there will be a change in job/service Reason ---Sat, L3 of > > change ,aspect Ve , the subperiod ruler in the birth chart . This > > aspect, is reonforced by the current Saturn Return . > > > > Ve sub period ,runs upto 30Aug,2008, . It is a long way to > go .Still > > out of accademic interest , I am asking you, can you confirm or > deny > > any of my readings , since you know the native very well ? > > > > Anticipating your reply > > > > Best > > > > M Nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rain13club " > > <rain13@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > Sincerely speaking, I do not think much people would be knowing > this > > > personality. > > > > > > I would leave it to other members to come up with a suitable > > > horoscope. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Ravi Nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ravi ji, > > > > That is not enough. Confirm that many of the members of this > > > > group would be familiar with the life events of that person. He > > > should > > > > be famous/popular due to some reason. If so we can proceed > with the > > > > same, if not this horoscope won't be selected for the said > > > exercise. > > > > Love, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > , " A. Ravindran > > > Nair " > > > > <rain13@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that would be a good idea. A student like me can > sharpen my > > > > skills. I can provide the data of a horoscope for analysis. > > > > > > > > > > Date of birth - 20-06-1979 Boy > > > > > Time of birth - 6.30 p.m. > > > > > Place of birth - Palghat > > > > > > > > > > I rather familiar with all the events in his life. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Ravi Nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @: sreesog@: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 > > > > 09:39:11 +0000 Re: > Vimshottarry > > > > dasa analysis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji!You said:==>> I request u to analys any one > chart > > > and > > > > describe it based on > principles of astrology, which u can do > it > > > > better than me .<== Ooops!! That is a trap! But yes, we will do > > > that > > > > taking some chart -just for the sake of clarity (are we not > doing > > > it > > > > already?!; I thinkwhat we do in all chart reading is that > > > itself!). * > > > > Let us take any chart (but don't mention whose it is), about > > > whichmost > > > > of us may know, and provide. * Take a specific period (Dasa) in > > > that > > > > individual's life. * Let us go through the results that would > be > > > > predicted and latercompare it with actual results.This may > serve 2 > > > > things. 1) The weight of previous knowledge contaminating > > > predictions > > > > can beavoided.2) The reading would be still prediction rather > than > > > a > > > > post mortemanalysis.I request a third party (Srinivas ji, > Panditji, > > > > Pradeep, Justin orsome one else) to provide a chart. Remember > the > > > > chart should be ofsome one, about the life of whom, all of us > know > > > > already.All those who do not know `whose chart it is', will > have a > > > go > > > > - onthe result predicted for that Dasa, for that individual. > Let us > > > > try toknow how much astrology helps us in arriving at correct > > > > possibilities.Thus the preconditions are –• The predictions > > should > > > be > > > > for a particular Vimsottari Dasa period only.• The references > > and > > > > technique used must be clarified in detail in > > > thepost.Love,Sreenadh--- > > > > In , " sunil > > > > nair " <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:>> > Hare ramakrishna,> > dear > > > > sreenadh,> > yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of command > > > over > > > > laungage i> realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i > > > planned to > > > > write it> .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys > any > > > one > > > > chart and> describe it based on principles of astrology,which u > > > can do > > > > it better> than me .> > thanks and regrds> > sunil nair> > om > > > shreem > > > > mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > --- In > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > <sreesog@> > > > > wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Thanks for the very good and > > > > informative mail. But still I think> > the question, " Whether > good, > > > > moderate or bad results should be> > predicted for a particular > > > > Dasa? " , which is given much importance in> > many texts and > many > > > > methodologies are described for the same (as well> > > summarized in > > > > your mail), is of less importance compared to the major> > > > > question, > > > > " What are the results to be predicted for a particular> > > Dasa? " , > > > > which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many> > > > > texts > > > > that discusses the subject. The question with secondary > status> > > > > (a > > > > higher class subject) is given most importance and the > question> > > > > > with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is > > > given> > > > > > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is > > > misled!> > > > > > They ask questions and try their level best to determine and > > > talk a> > > > > > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad - > > > > results;> > but pitifully fails to determine " What results > should > > > be > > > > attributed> > to that period (Dasa)? " !!! Shouldn't we try to > put > > > the > > > > record> > straight?> > Shouldn't we try to recast the right > > > > perspective of -> > First, identifying the results that should > be > > > > attributed to that> > Dasa; and then,> > Secondly, to > identifying > > > to > > > > what extend/amount (large, moderate,> > weak) that results to > > > > fructify?> > Of course for those who don't know the answer to > the > > > > first> > question, the answer to the second question (which > you to > > > > address> > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But > to > > > > those who know> > the answer to the first question, your mail > > > would be > > > > a much> > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would > see > > > > this point.> > Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive > > > description > > > > of the> > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second > > > question> > > > > > addressed).> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > --- In > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > > Dear > > > > jyothishas and lovers of astrology,> > >> > > dasa analysis:- > > > > > > >> > > > > > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well > > > established> > > > > > > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one > hour> > > > > > > > > window> > > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N > rao ji > > > > they know s> > 40> > > kinds of differrent dasas and they > collects > > > > datas and questions and> > > answerring it tru applying > atleast 4 > > > > popular dasas applicable to the> > > chart and so they r very > > > safe .> > > > > > > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is > > > more> > > > > > > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results > accordingly .for> > > > > > > > > this we> > > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is > lagna > > > > ,jupiter ,mer> > > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are > making > > > > lagna very> > strong ,if> > > moon is more strong by above > > > situations > > > > we must give importance to> > > moon.And take moon sign as > lagna. > > > some > > > > says till 30 years lagna> > then> > > upto 60 moon and later > years > > > sun > > > > shud also be treated as lagna and> > shud> > > say the > > > results ,but i > > > > am not favring that as lagna is smallest> > unit and> > > > happening > > > > within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna> > > should> > > > > > > > > > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless > previous> > > > > > > > > > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in> > > > > > > > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and > moon> > > > > > > > > in end> > > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which > ever > > > > results> > signified> > > it by it will be giving but this is > only > > > a > > > > general statement.> > > Depending on the positions and bhavas > the > > > > palnets will giv various> > > results . fro eg - we can take > some > > > one > > > > has jupiter in 2nd> > house ,in one> > > chart its in dhanu > rasi > > > and > > > > in another chart its in makar rasi ,so> > in> > > both charts > > > jupiter > > > > is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa> > > ,apahara (sub > > > > periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart> > its 2nd> > > > > > > > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart > > > the> > > > > > lagna> > > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no > > > > cancellation s of> > > neechatwa the effect will be bad > also .Even > > > > though its dasa of lagna> > > lord . so i am trying to > formulate > > > some > > > > of the principles which> > can> > > be useful in seeing a dasa > and > > > > results> > > > > > > -------------------------> > > 1) > > > see> > > > > > > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed > and > > > see> > > > > > its> > > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya > > > stiti > > > > ( normal> > > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in > ashta > > > > varga for this> > > planet ,positioned in favrable places like > 10th > > > > ,11th,or lagna ,also> > > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas > this r > > > > generaly considered> > good.> > > 2)gulika lord ship > (dispositor of > > > > gulika --according to kerala> > > sampradaya) ,assossiation > with > > > > gulika ,less points in ashta varga> > > ,sastru khsetra > > > stithi ,neecha > > > > stithi ,combust ,yoga with> > malefics,rasi> > > santhi,and > bhava > > > > santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if> > > positioned > in > > > > upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be> > > > > > good ,not > > > > the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and> > > well> > > > > > > > > > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled > only > > > in> > > > > > > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or> > > > > > benefics if> > > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions > with> > > > > > ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra> > > kshetra stithi and if aspected by > > > benefics > > > > or palced also in benefic> > > vargas the planets will giv good > > > > results 6)If dasa lord is> > strong and> > > and frnd of lagna > lord > > > > good and favrable results can be expected .> > > 7)but if enmy > of > > > > lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa> > > will > be > > > > highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with> > a> > > > > > > > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics > will> > > > > > giv bad> > > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa > lord > > > is > > > > benefic or> > > functional benefic if well placed with strenght > > > will > > > > giv good> > results> > > and mafefic or functional malefics ill > > > placed > > > > and weak will giv bad> > > results . 10) if the planet is > placed in > > > > sheershodaya sign it may> > giv> > > results in begining .and > > > > prishtodaya sign it will giv results in> > end and> > > if in > > > > ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad> > > > > results .> > > > > > > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are > > > > sheershodaya(rising> > with> > > head signs) and aries > > > > ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are> > > prishtodaya signs > > > (rising > > > > with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya> > sign> > > ( rising > with > > > > both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if> > he is> > > > > > > > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced > for> > > > > > higher> > > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg > > > > --mercury is> > 6th> > > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if > > > placed in > > > > virgo ,ucha rasi he> > will> > > be the best among dasas. 12) It > > > says > > > > 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords> > from> > > janma nakshatra adhi > > > pathy > > > > order will be supposed to be best> > dasas> > > 13) if 3rd > house or > > > > 12th house and any weak planets are situated his> > > dasa > apahara > > > > ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics> > then > it> > > > > > > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi > (begining> > > > > > or> > > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble> > > some ,sorrows > > > > ,pains ,deseases> > > and various mishappes may be possible > and if > > > the > > > > planets is in 30 th> > > degree its very dangerous may be it > can > > > cause > > > > death also. 15) The> > > planet positioned with rahu and and > > > > dispositor of sign were rahu> > > paositioned cannot deliver > good > > > > results of them and rahu will> > deliver> > > that results. 16) > > > > planets positioned in purticular nashatra will> > aslo> > > > give > > > the > > > > results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna> > > more> > > > > > > > > > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub > period> > > > > > of> > > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord > or > > > who > > > > is> > > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in > > > weak> > > > > > position in> > > rasi of malefic planets or houses such > period > > > will > > > > be also trouble> > some.> > > 18) where ever malefic planets > are > > > > positioned they give results> > > according to its bhava in > frst > > > 1/3 > > > > rd of dasa and then rasi phala> > next> > > 1/3 and then > according > > > to > > > > planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of> > > those palnets. > 19) > > > if > > > > any planet has got any malefics from 4th> > house> > > its > position > > > > during his dasa some problems regding property is> > > possible.> > > > > > > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa > its> > > > > > rasi> > > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of > the > > > > results> > will be> > > given to aspects and conjns of various > > > > planets. 21)If benefic and> > > malefic is sitting together the > > > dasa > > > > of benefic will be bad and> > malefic> > > will be good . 22) > any > > > > planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka> > in> > > neecha he > > > cannot > > > > giv good results and if everse it will giv best> > results> > > > . > > > a)if > > > > sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to> > > > > > > > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same > sun> > > > > > > > > > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and> > > > > > > happyness> > > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in > end of > > > > the dasa b)> > Moon> > > also same results mentioned above but > > > welfare > > > > of mother shud be> > seen .> > > c)mars -if neechamsaka --bad > for > > > > brothers and kids and property> > > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi > labham > > > > ,dhana labham along with happyness> > from> > > brothers . d) > budha > > > is > > > > neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of> > > intelligence ,and > also > > > our > > > > actions will be judged very badly .> > > uchamsaka can giv > first > > > bad > > > > then good positions and experiences> > e) jup> > > in > neechamsaka > > > > --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every> > body> > > > > > ,even > > > > our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka> > > > > > > > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in > > > education> > > > > > and> > > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse > > > and> > > > > > problems> > > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of > > > luck ,less > > > > money ,and> > change> > > is position to fall from position. in > > > > uchamsaka - very good> > comforting> > > experiences ,good > > > experince > > > > regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and> > wealth> > > . g) sani > in > > > > neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the> > > > hell in > > > > this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and> > > > > then> > > > > > > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable > wealth > > > may> > > > > > be> > > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best > > > > results if> > > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona > with > > > > kendra lords> > and if> > > alone they giv the results of rasi > lord > > > > and also nakshatra lord> > > generaly rahu in first half of > zodiac > > > > gives best results and other> > half> > > is good for ketu It > says > > > > aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in> > good> > > bhavas > good > > > > results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi> > > > > > ,happiness in > > > > pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and> > > > capricon > > > and > > > > virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from> > spouse> > > > > > > and > > > > kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th> > > > > and> > > > > > > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who > > > assossiated> > > > > > with> > > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa > > > lord > > > > in> > their> > > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but > if > > > that > > > > planets has> > drishti> > > pf good planets and also placed > well in > > > > chart the bad results are> > > nullified . same is the case of > > > gulika > > > > degree lords dasa again if> > good> > > planets are aspecting > or > > > guru > > > > aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra> > this> > > results > > > cancelles a > > > > great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in> > > series and > guru > > > > dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very> > bad.> > > > 27) > > > > the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with > rahu> > > > > > also> > > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra - > surya > > > for > > > > ladies> > kuja> > > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29) > Dasa > > > of > > > > ashtama lord is> > bad> > > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30) > > > 3/6/11 th > > > > lords if they are> > benefics> > > their dasa is supposed to be > > > bad. > > > > 31)moon and sun and lagna lord> > has> > > no ashtamadhi pathy > > > dosha. > > > > 32)see in which house from dasa lord> > the> > > apahara lord > is > > > > placed and results also will be according to the> > place> > > > > > ment. > > > > 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the> > > > > deed> > > > > > > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While> > > > > > > seeing any> > > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and > lagna > > > lord > > > > and dasa> > lord and> > > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to > the > > > > results of dasa also> > transit> > > also plays a good role is > > > making > > > > a better or slow results And> > delinating> > > tru various > vargas > > > is > > > > not mentioned here . ALSO I REQUEST> > SREENADH AND> > > > OTHERS TO > > > > COMMENT AND COME OUT WITH WORKING EXAMPLES SO AS TO> > > BENEFIT> > > > > > > GROUP MEMBERS.I AM JUST CHANNELING A DISCUSSION ALL ARE INVITED > > > TO> > > > > > > PARTICIPATE regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > > > > Explore the seven wonders of the world > > > > > http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world & mkt=en- > > > US & form=QBRE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Dear M. Nairji, Yes, you are absolutely right. Regards Ravi Nair , " Balagurusurya " <balagurusurya wrote: > > > Dear Ravi, > > Thanks for the feedback. > > As per the revised BT, Asc is 00Sag46(As per Lahiri) ., the cuspal > beginning , an indication, that at the time of birth of the native , > his family was not financially well off . Native will also be > extremely attached to his mother . > > Can you comment on these two points ? > > After hearing from you , I will again revert to Ve subperiod of Moon > dasha > > Best > > MNair > > > > > , " rain13club " > <rain13@> wrote: > > > > Dear M Nair, > > > > Great !!! You are hitting the targets !! > > > > I had a specific reason for giving the data of this person, because > > of his achievements. > > > > Extremely sorry, there is a little correction in the timing, it is > > 6.25 p.m. and not 6.30 p.m. > > > > He is not married. His only younger sister's marriage was done in > > Moon-Mercury period, to be precise on 27-10-2005. > > > > He already resigned his job on June 1, 2007, but not for a change of > > employer but to continue studies. > > > > Regards > > > > Ravi Nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Balagurusurya " > > balagurusurya@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ravi, > > > > > > Subject born with 01Sag54 (As per Lahiri's ayanamsa) is currently > > > passing through Mn/Ve > > > > > > ---Both Mn & Ve are female planets. Mn, the major period lord is > > L8 of > > > marital bond, placed in H5 ,that unites couples. > > > > > > Ve, the subperiod ruler , is the planet of conjugal bliss and > > as L11 > > > of new acquaintance , stationed in Taurus , the 2nd of natural > > zodiac > > > representing family. In D-9, Ve owns H7 of spouse. > > > > > > As such , the native , if unmarried, will get married in Ve sub > > period > > > .If already married, this Ve period will give child birth. > > > > > > Alternatively , the Ve period may see the wedding of co-borns, I > > mean, > > > siblings, if any > > > > > > Further ,there will be a change in job/service Reason ---Sat, L3 of > > > change ,aspect Ve , the subperiod ruler in the birth chart . This > > > aspect, is reonforced by the current Saturn Return . > > > > > > Ve sub period ,runs upto 30Aug,2008, . It is a long way to > > go .Still > > > out of accademic interest , I am asking you, can you confirm or > > deny > > > any of my readings , since you know the native very well ? > > > > > > Anticipating your reply > > > > > > Best > > > > > > M Nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rain13club " > > > <rain13@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > > > Sincerely speaking, I do not think much people would be knowing > > this > > > > personality. > > > > > > > > I would leave it to other members to come up with a suitable > > > > horoscope. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Ravi Nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > > > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ravi ji, > > > > > That is not enough. Confirm that many of the members of this > > > > > group would be familiar with the life events of that person. He > > > > should > > > > > be famous/popular due to some reason. If so we can proceed > > with the > > > > > same, if not this horoscope won't be selected for the said > > > > exercise. > > > > > Love, > > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > , " A. Ravindran > > > > Nair " > > > > > <rain13@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that would be a good idea. A student like me can > > sharpen my > > > > > skills. I can provide the data of a horoscope for analysis. > > > > > > > > > > > > Date of birth - 20-06-1979 Boy > > > > > > Time of birth - 6.30 p.m. > > > > > > Place of birth - Palghat > > > > > > > > > > > > I rather familiar with all the events in his life. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Ravi Nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @: sreesog@: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 > > > > > 09:39:11 +0000 Re: > > Vimshottarry > > > > > dasa analysis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji!You said:==>> I request u to analys any one > > chart > > > > and > > > > > describe it based on > principles of astrology, which u can do > > it > > > > > better than me .<== Ooops!! That is a trap! But yes, we will do > > > > that > > > > > taking some chart -just for the sake of clarity (are we not > > doing > > > > it > > > > > already?!; I thinkwhat we do in all chart reading is that > > > > itself!). * > > > > > Let us take any chart (but don't mention whose it is), about > > > > whichmost > > > > > of us may know, and provide. * Take a specific period (Dasa) in > > > > that > > > > > individual's life. * Let us go through the results that would > > be > > > > > predicted and latercompare it with actual results.This may > > serve 2 > > > > > things. 1) The weight of previous knowledge contaminating > > > > predictions > > > > > can beavoided.2) The reading would be still prediction rather > > than > > > > a > > > > > post mortemanalysis.I request a third party (Srinivas ji, > > Panditji, > > > > > Pradeep, Justin orsome one else) to provide a chart. Remember > > the > > > > > chart should be ofsome one, about the life of whom, all of us > > know > > > > > already.All those who do not know `whose chart it is', will > > have a > > > > go > > > > > - onthe result predicted for that Dasa, for that individual. > > Let us > > > > > try toknow how much astrology helps us in arriving at correct > > > > > possibilities.Thus the preconditions are –• The predictions > > > should > > > > be > > > > > for a particular Vimsottari Dasa period only.• The > references > > > and > > > > > technique used must be clarified in detail in > > > > thepost.Love,Sreenadh--- > > > > > In , " sunil > > > > > nair " <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:>> > Hare ramakrishna,> > dear > > > > > sreenadh,> > yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of command > > > > over > > > > > laungage i> realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i > > > > planned to > > > > > write it> .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys > > any > > > > one > > > > > chart and> describe it based on principles of astrology,which u > > > > can do > > > > > it better> than me .> > thanks and regrds> > sunil nair> > om > > > > shreem > > > > > mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > --- In > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > > <sreesog@> > > > > > wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Thanks for the very good and > > > > > informative mail. But still I think> > the question, " Whether > > good, > > > > > moderate or bad results should be> > predicted for a particular > > > > > Dasa? " , which is given much importance in> > many texts and > > many > > > > > methodologies are described for the same (as well> > > > summarized in > > > > > your mail), is of less importance compared to the major> > > > > > question, > > > > > " What are the results to be predicted for a particular> > > > Dasa? " , > > > > > which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many> > > > > > texts > > > > > that discusses the subject. The question with secondary > > status> > > > > > (a > > > > > higher class subject) is given most importance and the > > question> > > > > > > with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is > > > > given> > > > > > > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is > > > > misled!> > > > > > > They ask questions and try their level best to determine and > > > > talk a> > > > > > > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad - > > > > > results;> > but pitifully fails to determine " What results > > should > > > > be > > > > > attributed> > to that period (Dasa)? " !!! Shouldn't we try to > > put > > > > the > > > > > record> > straight?> > Shouldn't we try to recast the right > > > > > perspective of -> > First, identifying the results that should > > be > > > > > attributed to that> > Dasa; and then,> > Secondly, to > > identifying > > > > to > > > > > what extend/amount (large, moderate,> > weak) that results to > > > > > fructify?> > Of course for those who don't know the answer to > > the > > > > > first> > question, the answer to the second question (which > > you to > > > > > address> > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But > > to > > > > > those who know> > the answer to the first question, your mail > > > > would be > > > > > a much> > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would > > see > > > > > this point.> > Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive > > > > description > > > > > of the> > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second > > > > question> > > > > > > addressed).> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > --- In > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > > > Dear > > > > > jyothishas and lovers of astrology,> > >> > > dasa analysis:-> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well > > > > established> > > > > > > > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one > > hour> > > > > > > > > > > window> > > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N > > rao ji > > > > > they know s> > 40> > > kinds of differrent dasas and they > > collects > > > > > datas and questions and> > > answerring it tru applying > > atleast 4 > > > > > popular dasas applicable to the> > > chart and so they r very > > > > safe .> > > > > > > > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is > > > > more> > > > > > > > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results > > accordingly .for> > > > > > > > > > > this we> > > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is > > lagna > > > > > ,jupiter ,mer> > > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are > > making > > > > > lagna very> > strong ,if> > > moon is more strong by above > > > > situations > > > > > we must give importance to> > > moon.And take moon sign as > > lagna. > > > > some > > > > > says till 30 years lagna> > then> > > upto 60 moon and later > > years > > > > sun > > > > > shud also be treated as lagna and> > shud> > > say the > > > > results ,but i > > > > > am not favring that as lagna is smallest> > unit and> > > > > happening > > > > > within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna> > > > should> > > > > > > > > > > > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless > > previous> > > > > > > > > > > > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in> > > > > > > > > > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and > > moon> > > > > > > > > > > in end> > > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which > > ever > > > > > results> > signified> > > it by it will be giving but this is > > only > > > > a > > > > > general statement.> > > Depending on the positions and bhavas > > the > > > > > palnets will giv various> > > results . fro eg - we can take > > some > > > > one > > > > > has jupiter in 2nd> > house ,in one> > > chart its in dhanu > > rasi > > > > and > > > > > in another chart its in makar rasi ,so> > in> > > both charts > > > > jupiter > > > > > is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa> > > ,apahara (sub > > > > > periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart> > its 2nd> > > > > > > > > > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart > > > > the> > > > > > > lagna> > > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no > > > > > cancellation s of> > > neechatwa the effect will be bad > > also .Even > > > > > though its dasa of lagna> > > lord . so i am trying to > > formulate > > > > some > > > > > of the principles which> > can> > > be useful in seeing a dasa > > and > > > > > results> > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > 1) > > > > see> > > > > > > > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed > > and > > > > see> > > > > > > its> > > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya > > > > stiti > > > > > ( normal> > > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in > > ashta > > > > > varga for this> > > planet ,positioned in favrable places like > > 10th > > > > > ,11th,or lagna ,also> > > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas > > this r > > > > > generaly considered> > good.> > > 2)gulika lord ship > > (dispositor of > > > > > gulika --according to kerala> > > sampradaya) ,assossiation > > with > > > > > gulika ,less points in ashta varga> > > ,sastru khsetra > > > > stithi ,neecha > > > > > stithi ,combust ,yoga with> > malefics,rasi> > > santhi,and > > bhava > > > > > santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if> > > positioned > > in > > > > > upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be> > > > > > > good ,not > > > > > the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and> > > > well> > > > > > > > > > > > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled > > only > > > > in> > > > > > > > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or> > > > > > > benefics if> > > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions > > with> > > > > > > ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra> > > kshetra stithi and if aspected by > > > > benefics > > > > > or palced also in benefic> > > vargas the planets will giv good > > > > > results 6)If dasa lord is> > strong and> > > and frnd of lagna > > lord > > > > > good and favrable results can be expected .> > > 7)but if enmy > > of > > > > > lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa> > > will > > be > > > > > highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with> > a> > > > > > > > > > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics > > will> > > > > > > giv bad> > > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa > > lord > > > > is > > > > > benefic or> > > functional benefic if well placed with strenght > > > > will > > > > > giv good> > results> > > and mafefic or functional malefics ill > > > > placed > > > > > and weak will giv bad> > > results . 10) if the planet is > > placed in > > > > > sheershodaya sign it may> > giv> > > results in begining .and > > > > > prishtodaya sign it will giv results in> > end and> > > if in > > > > > ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad> > > > > > results .> > > > > > > > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are > > > > > sheershodaya(rising> > with> > > head signs) and aries > > > > > ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are> > > prishtodaya signs > > > > (rising > > > > > with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya> > sign> > > ( rising > > with > > > > > both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if> > he is> > > > > > > > > > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced > > for> > > > > > > higher> > > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg > > > > > --mercury is> > 6th> > > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if > > > > placed in > > > > > virgo ,ucha rasi he> > will> > > be the best among dasas. 12)It > > > > says > > > > > 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords> > from> > > janma nakshatra adhi > > > > pathy > > > > > order will be supposed to be best> > dasas> > > 13) if 3rd > > house or > > > > > 12th house and any weak planets are situated his> > > dasa > > apahara > > > > > ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics> > then > > it> > > > > > > > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi > > (begining> > > > > > > or> > > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble> > > > some ,sorrows > > > > > ,pains ,deseases> > > and various mishappes may be possible > > and if > > > > the > > > > > planets is in 30 th> > > degree its very dangerous may be it > > can > > > > cause > > > > > death also. 15) The> > > planet positioned with rahu and and > > > > > dispositor of sign were rahu> > > paositioned cannot deliver > > good > > > > > results of them and rahu will> > deliver> > > that results. 16) > > > > > planets positioned in purticular nashatra will> > aslo> > > > > give > > > > the > > > > > results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna> > > > more> > > > > > > > > > > > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub > > period> > > > > > > of> > > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord > > or > > > > who > > > > > is> > > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in > > > > weak> > > > > > > position in> > > rasi of malefic planets or houses such > > period > > > > will > > > > > be also trouble> > some.> > > 18) where ever malefic planets > > are > > > > > positioned they give results> > > according to its bhava in > > frst > > > > 1/3 > > > > > rd of dasa and then rasi phala> > next> > > 1/3 and then > > according > > > > to > > > > > planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of> > > those palnets. > > 19) > > > > if > > > > > any planet has got any malefics from 4th> > house> > > its > > position > > > > > during his dasa some problems regding property is> > > > possible.> > > > > > > > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa > > its> > > > > > > rasi> > > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of > > the > > > > > results> > will be> > > given to aspects and conjns of various > > > > > planets. 21)If benefic and> > > malefic is sitting together the > > > > dasa > > > > > of benefic will be bad and> > malefic> > > will be good . 22) > > any > > > > > planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka> > in> > > neecha he > > > > cannot > > > > > giv good results and if everse it will giv best> > results> > > > > . > > > > a)if > > > > > sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to> > > > > > > > > > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same > > sun> > > > > > > > > > > > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and> > > > > > > > > happyness> > > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in > > end of > > > > > the dasa b)> > Moon> > > also same results mentioned above but > > > > welfare > > > > > of mother shud be> > seen .> > > c)mars -if neechamsaka -- bad > > for > > > > > brothers and kids and property> > > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi > > labham > > > > > ,dhana labham along with happyness> > from> > > brothers . d) > > budha > > > > is > > > > > neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of> > > intelligence ,and > > also > > > > our > > > > > actions will be judged very badly .> > > uchamsaka can giv > > first > > > > bad > > > > > then good positions and experiences> > e) jup> > > in > > neechamsaka > > > > > --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every> > body> > > > > > > ,even > > > > > our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka> > > > > > > > > > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in > > > > education> > > > > > > and> > > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse > > > > and> > > > > > > problems> > > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of > > > > luck ,less > > > > > money ,and> > change> > > is position to fall from position. in > > > > > uchamsaka - very good> > comforting> > > experiences ,good > > > > experince > > > > > regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and> > wealth> > > . g) sani > > in > > > > > neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the> > > > > hell in > > > > > this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and> > > > > > then> > > > > > > > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable > > wealth > > > > may> > > > > > > be> > > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best > > > > > results if> > > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona > > with > > > > > kendra lords> > and if> > > alone they giv the results of rasi > > lord > > > > > and also nakshatra lord> > > generaly rahu in first half of > > zodiac > > > > > gives best results and other> > half> > > is good for ketu It > > says > > > > > aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in> > good> > > bhavas > > good > > > > > results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi> > > > > > > ,happiness in > > > > > pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and> > > > > capricon > > > > and > > > > > virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from> > spouse> > > > > > > > > and > > > > > kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who > > > > assossiated> > > > > > > with> > > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa > > > > lord > > > > > in> > their> > > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but > > if > > > > that > > > > > planets has> > drishti> > > pf good planets and also placed > > well in > > > > > chart the bad results are> > > nullified . same is the case of > > > > gulika > > > > > degree lords dasa again if> > good> > > planets are aspecting > > or > > > > guru > > > > > aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra> > this> > > results > > > > cancelles a > > > > > great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in> > > series and > > guru > > > > > dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very> > bad.> > > > > 27) > > > > > the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with > > rahu> > > > > > > also> > > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra - > > surya > > > > for > > > > > ladies> > kuja> > > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29) > > Dasa > > > > of > > > > > ashtama lord is> > bad> > > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30) > > > > 3/6/11 th > > > > > lords if they are> > benefics> > > their dasa is supposed to be > > > > bad. > > > > > 31)moon and sun and lagna lord> > has> > > no ashtamadhi pathy > > > > dosha. > > > > > 32)see in which house from dasa lord> > the> > > apahara lord > > is > > > > > placed and results also will be according to the> > place> > > > > > > ment. > > > > > 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the> > > > > > deed> > > > > > > > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While> > > > > > > > > seeing any> > > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and > > lagna > > > > lord > > > > > and dasa> > lord and> > > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to > > the > > > > > results of dasa also> > transit> > > also plays a good role is > > > > making > > > > > a better or slow results And> > delinating> > > tru various > > vargas > > > > is > > > > > not mentioned here . 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Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Dear Ravi ji, The point is - * Rather than the predictions itself we are interested in learning/teaching the methodology to be used in deriving dasa prediction. * We want to make it a GROUP EXCERSISE (in which many group members participate) rather than making it a conversation between 2 members (which i term as 'individual chart reading style'). Let rephrase this as well as coming exercises (let us make it a continuous process) taking account of these points. Love, Sreenadh , " rain13club " <rain13 wrote: > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > Yes, that would be a good idea. > > I just suggested one data for the sake of it, then I realised that I > will not be able to take part in the exercise and there is nothing > for me to study. > > Regards > > Ravi Nair > > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Madhu ji, > > The problem with charts put forward by a single person, and known > to > > a single person is that - > > * there is only one person to verify the validity of the readings > and > > * in essence the exercise will not give many the joy of > participation > > experience. > > To avoid these pitfalls it is better to read the charts of natives, > > whom is well known (due to good or bad reason), but whose chart is > not > > popular among the astrologers; at least among the group members. The > > individual suggesting the chart is not revealing the name of the > > native also, which will safe guard the joy and truthfulness of the > > exercise. But since the native and his life is well known later the > > majority members of the group can analysis and compare the results > > predicted against reality. > > Hope you will see the essence of the reason for my suggestion. > > > > Note 1: I never mentioned that it should be chart of a celebrity. > > Apart from celebrities there are many good and bad people around. As > > well many who contributed well in Literature, Administration, > Science, > > Ancient Arts and so on. We can go for any such chart. > > > > Note 2: Here the proposed exercise is NOT for an individual (that we > > usually do by individual chart readings), but FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE > > GROUP. The point is " Thus every member should get a chance to > evaluate > > the reading " . I hope you will agree that, this is possible only when > > the chart is of a popular individual. > > > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > , " Balagurusurya " > > <balagurusurya@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Ram, > > > > > > I agree with your views of studying unknown charts. Reason is , > if we go > > > after celebriety charts, (mostly erroneus) ,they are not going to > join > > > this group and tell us whether our analysis is correct or not. On > the > > > contrary , if we comment on chart , like the one put forward by > Ravi , > > > where the latter knows all life events of the former, we could > easily > > > adjudge our own skills and pitfalls . > > > > > > I hope, Sreenadh will ponder , once again > > > > > > Best > > > > > > M Nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Ram Jaswal " > > > <rkjaswal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste Sreenadhji > > > > > > > > May I suggest otherwise? Most people can give lots of different > > > reasons as > > > > to why certain events occur during certain Dasha periods which > can be > > > true > > > > as No single cause can always be attributed to it ie something > can > > > occur due > > > > to Dasha's/Transits etc . Note there is also a " saying " that > each Maha > > > Dasha > > > > should only be evaluated after seeing the " Prashna " for the > moment of > > > the > > > > change in Dasha ... > > > > > > > > Wouldn't it be better to study an " unknown " chart to test the > > > " reading " > > > > ability of Dasha's etc? > > > > > > > > Thanks and hoping comments taken in a positive sense? > > > > > > > > Jai Sita Ram > > > > > > > > Ram > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > > Sreenadh > > > > 02 September 2007 08:48 > > > > > > > > Re: Vimshottarry dasa > analysis > > > > > > > > Dear Ravi ji, > > > > That is not enough. Confirm that many of the members of this > > > > group would be familiar with the life events of that person. He > should > > > > be famous/popular due to some reason. If so we can proceed with > the > > > > same, if not this horoscope won't be selected for the said > exercise. > > > > Love, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <%40> > > > > astrology , " A. Ravindran Nair " > > > > rain13@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that would be a good idea. A student like me can sharpen > my > > > > skills. I can provide the data of a horoscope for analysis. > > > > > > > > > > Date of birth - 20-06-1979 Boy > > > > > Time of birth - 6.30 p.m. > > > > > Place of birth - Palghat > > > > > > > > > > I rather familiar with all the events in his life. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Ravi Nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @: sreesog@: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 > > > > 09:39:11 +0000 Re: > Vimshottarry > > > > dasa analysis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji!You said:==>> I request u to analys any one > chart and > > > > describe it based on > principles of astrology, which u can do > it > > > > better than me .<== Ooops!! That is a trap! But yes, we will do > that > > > > taking some chart -just for the sake of clarity (are we not > doing it > > > > already?!; I thinkwhat we do in all chart reading is that > itself!). * > > > > Let us take any chart (but don't mention whose it is), about > whichmost > > > > of us may know, and provide. * Take a specific period (Dasa) in > that > > > > individual's life. * Let us go through the results that would be > > > > predicted and latercompare it with actual results.This may > serve 2 > > > > things. 1) The weight of previous knowledge contaminating > predictions > > > > can beavoided.2) The reading would be still prediction rather > than a > > > > post mortemanalysis.I request a third party (Srinivas ji, > Panditji, > > > > Pradeep, Justin orsome one else) to provide a chart. Remember > the > > > > chart should be ofsome one, about the life of whom, all of us > know > > > > already.All those who do not know `whose chart it is', will > have a go > > > > - onthe result predicted for that Dasa, for that individual. > Let us > > > > try toknow how much astrology helps us in arriving at correct > > > > possibilities.Thus the preconditions are -. The predictions > should be > > > > for a particular Vimsottari Dasa period only.. The references > and > > > > technique used must be clarified in detail in > thepost.Love,Sreenadh--- > > > > In ancient_indian_ <% > 40> > > > > astrology , " sunil > > > > nair " <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:>> > Hare ramakrishna,> > dear > > > > sreenadh,> > yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of command > over > > > > laungage i> realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i > planned to > > > > write it> .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys > any one > > > > chart and> describe it based on principles of astrology,which u > can do > > > > it better> than me .> > thanks and regrds> > sunil nair> > om > shreem > > > > mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > --- In > > > > ancient_indian_ <% > 40> > > > > astrology , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> > > > > wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Thanks for the very good and > > > > informative mail. But still I think> > the question, " Whether > good, > > > > moderate or bad results should be> > predicted for a particular > > > > Dasa? " , which is given much importance in> > many texts and many > > > > methodologies are described for the same (as well> > summarized > in > > > > your mail), is of less importance compared to the major> > > question, > > > > " What are the results to be predicted for a particular> > > Dasa? " , > > > > which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many> > > texts > > > > that discusses the subject. The question with secondary status> > > (a > > > > higher class subject) is given most importance and the > question> > > > > > with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) is > given> > > > > > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is > misled!> > > > > > They ask questions and try their level best to determine and > talk a> > > > > > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad - > > > > results;> > but pitifully fails to determine " What results > should be > > > > attributed> > to that period (Dasa)? " !!! Shouldn't we try to > put the > > > > record> > straight?> > Shouldn't we try to recast the right > > > > perspective of -> > First, identifying the results that should > be > > > > attributed to that> > Dasa; and then,> > Secondly, to > identifying to > > > > what extend/amount (large, moderate,> > weak) that results to > > > > fructify?> > Of course for those who don't know the answer to > the > > > > first> > question, the answer to the second question (which you > to > > > > address> > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. But > to > > > > those who know> > the answer to the first question, your mail > would be > > > > a much> > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members would > see > > > > this point.> > Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive > description > > > > of the> > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second > question> > > > > > addressed).> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > --- In > > > > ancient_indian_ <% > 40> > > > > astrology , " sunil nair " > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > Dear > > > > jyothishas and lovers of astrology,> > >> > > dasa analysis:- > > > >> > > > > > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well > established> > > > > > > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one > hour> > > > > > window> > > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N rao > ji > > > > they know s> > 40> > > kinds of differrent dasas and they > collects > > > > datas and questions and> > > answerring it tru applying atleast > 4 > > > > popular dasas applicable to the> > > chart and so they r very > safe .> > > > > > > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is > more> > > > > > > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results > accordingly .for> > > > > > this we> > > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is > lagna > > > > ,jupiter ,mer> > > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are > making > > > > lagna very> > strong ,if> > > moon is more strong by above > situations > > > > we must give importance to> > > moon.And take moon sign as > lagna. some > > > > says till 30 years lagna> > then> > > upto 60 moon and later > years sun > > > > shud also be treated as lagna and> > shud> > > say the > results ,but i > > > > am not favring that as lagna is smallest> > unit and> > > > happening > > > > within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna> > > should> > > > > > > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless > previous> > > > > > > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results in> > > > > > > > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and > moon> > > > > > in end> > > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which ever > > > > results> > signified> > > it by it will be giving but this is > only a > > > > general statement.> > > Depending on the positions and bhavas > the > > > > palnets will giv various> > > results . fro eg - we can take > some one > > > > has jupiter in 2nd> > house ,in one> > > chart its in dhanu > rasi and > > > > in another chart its in makar rasi ,so> > in> > > both charts > jupiter > > > > is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa> > > ,apahara (sub > > > > periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart> > its 2nd> > > > > > > > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another chart > the> > > > > > lagna> > > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no > > > > cancellation s of> > > neechatwa the effect will be bad > also .Even > > > > though its dasa of lagna> > > lord . so i am trying to > formulate some > > > > of the principles which> > can> > > be useful in seeing a dasa > and > > > > results> > > > > > > -------------------------> > > 1) see> > > > > > > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed > and see> > > > > > its> > > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava madhya > stiti > > > > ( normal> > > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in > ashta > > > > varga for this> > > planet ,positioned in favrable places like > 10th > > > > ,11th,or lagna ,also> > > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas > this r > > > > generaly considered> > good.> > > 2)gulika lord ship > (dispositor of > > > > gulika --according to kerala> > > sampradaya) ,assossiation with > > > > gulika ,less points in ashta varga> > > ,sastru khsetra > stithi ,neecha > > > > stithi ,combust ,yoga with> > malefics,rasi> > > santhi,and > bhava > > > > santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if> > > positioned > in > > > > upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be> > > > good ,not > > > > the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and> > > well> > > > > > > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled > only in> > > > > > > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or> > > > > > benefics if> > > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions > with> > > > > > ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra> > > kshetra stithi and if aspected by > benefics > > > > or palced also in benefic> > > vargas the planets will giv good > > > > results 6)If dasa lord is> > strong and> > > and frnd of lagna > lord > > > > good and favrable results can be expected .> > > 7)but if enmy > of > > > > lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa> > > will be > > > > highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with> > a> > > > > > > > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics > will> > > > > > giv bad> > > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa > lord is > > > > benefic or> > > functional benefic if well placed with strenght > will > > > > giv good> > results> > > and mafefic or functional malefics ill > placed > > > > and weak will giv bad> > > results . 10) if the planet is > placed in > > > > sheershodaya sign it may> > giv> > > results in begining .and > > > > prishtodaya sign it will giv results in> > end and> > > if in > > > > ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad> > > results .> > > > > > > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are > > > > sheershodaya(rising> > with> > > head signs) and aries > > > > ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are> > > prishtodaya signs > (rising > > > > with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya> > sign> > > ( rising > with > > > > both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if> > he is> > > > > > > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced for> > > > > > > higher> > > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for eg > > > > --mercury is> > 6th> > > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if > placed in > > > > virgo ,ucha rasi he> > will> > > be the best among dasas. 12) It > says > > > > 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords> > from> > > janma nakshatra adhi > pathy > > > > order will be supposed to be best> > dasas> > > 13) if 3rd > house or > > > > 12th house and any weak planets are situated his> > > dasa > apahara > > > > ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics> > then it> > > > > > > > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi > (begining> > > > > > or> > > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble> > some ,sorrows > > > > ,pains ,deseases> > > and various mishappes may be possible and > if the > > > > planets is in 30 th> > > degree its very dangerous may be it > can cause > > > > death also. 15) The> > > planet positioned with rahu and and > > > > dispositor of sign were rahu> > > paositioned cannot deliver > good > > > > results of them and rahu will> > deliver> > > that results. 16) > > > > planets positioned in purticular nashatra will> > aslo> > > > give the > > > > results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna> > > more> > > > > > > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub > period> > > > > > of> > > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord > or who > > > > is> > > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed in > weak> > > > > > position in> > > rasi of malefic planets or houses such > period will > > > > be also trouble> > some.> > > 18) where ever malefic planets are > > > > positioned they give results> > > according to its bhava in > frst 1/3 > > > > rd of dasa and then rasi phala> > next> > > 1/3 and then > according to > > > > planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of> > > those palnets. > 19) if > > > > any planet has got any malefics from 4th> > house> > > its > position > > > > during his dasa some problems regding property is> > possible.> > > > > > > > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa > its> > > > > > rasi> > > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of > the > > > > results> > will be> > > given to aspects and conjns of various > > > > planets. 21)If benefic and> > > malefic is sitting together the > dasa > > > > of benefic will be bad and> > malefic> > > will be good . 22) > any > > > > planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka> > in> > > neecha he > cannot > > > > giv good results and if everse it will giv best> > results> > > > . a)if > > > > sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to> > > > > > > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same > sun> > > > > > > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures and> > > > > > happyness> > > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in > end of > > > > the dasa b)> > Moon> > > also same results mentioned above but > welfare > > > > of mother shud be> > seen .> > > c)mars -if neechamsaka --bad > for > > > > brothers and kids and property> > > uchamsaka mars --bhoomi > labham > > > > ,dhana labham along with happyness> > from> > > brothers . d) > budha is > > > > neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of> > > intelligence ,and > also our > > > > actions will be judged very badly .> > > uchamsaka can giv > first bad > > > > then good positions and experiences> > e) jup> > > in > neechamsaka > > > > --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every> > body> > > > ,even > > > > our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka> > > > > > > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in > education> > > > > > and> > > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to spouse > and> > > > > > problems> > > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of > luck ,less > > > > money ,and> > change> > > is position to fall from position. in > > > > uchamsaka - very good> > comforting> > > experiences ,good > experince > > > > regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and> > wealth> > > . g) sani > in > > > > neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the> > > hell > in > > > > this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and> > > then> > > > > > > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable > wealth may> > > > > > be> > > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives best > > > > results if> > > joined in kendra with trikona lords or trikona > with > > > > kendra lords> > and if> > > alone they giv the results of rasi > lord > > > > and also nakshatra lord> > > generaly rahu in first half of > zodiac > > > > gives best results and other> > half> > > is good for ketu It > says > > > > aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in> > good> > > bhavas > good > > > > results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi> > > > ,happiness in > > > > pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and> > > > capricon and > > > > virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from> > spouse> > > > and > > > > kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th> > > and> > > > > > > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who > assossiated> > > > > > with> > > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika navamsa > lord > > > > in> > their> > > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but > if that > > > > planets has> > drishti> > > pf good planets and also placed > well in > > > > chart the bad results are> > > nullified . same is the case of > gulika > > > > degree lords dasa again if> > good> > > planets are aspecting > or guru > > > > aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra> > this> > > results > cancelles a > > > > great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in> > > series and > guru > > > > dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very> > bad.> > > > 27) > > > > the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with rahu> > > > > > > also> > > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra - > surya for > > > > ladies> > kuja> > > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29) > Dasa of > > > > ashtama lord is> > bad> > > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30) > 3/6/11 th > > > > lords if they are> > benefics> > > their dasa is supposed to be > bad. > > > > 31)moon and sun and lagna lord> > has> > > no ashtamadhi pathy > dosha. > > > > 32)see in which house from dasa lord> > the> > > apahara lord is > > > > placed and results also will be according to the> > place> > > > ment. > > > > 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the> > > deed> > > > > > > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. While> > > > > > seeing any> > > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and > lagna lord > > > > and dasa> > lord and> > > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to > the > > > > results of dasa also> > transit> > > also plays a good role is > making > > > > a better or slow results And> > delinating> > > tru various > vargas is > > > > not mentioned here . ALSO I REQUEST> > SREENADH AND> > > OTHERS > TO > > > > COMMENT AND COME OUT WITH WORKING EXAMPLES SO AS TO> > BENEFIT> > > > > > > > GROUP MEMBERS.I AM JUST CHANNELING A DISCUSSION ALL ARE INVITED > TO> > > > > > > PARTICIPATE regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > > Explore the seven wonders of the world > > > > > http://search. > > > > > > > > > <http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world & mkt=en- > US & form=QBR\ > > > E> > > > > msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world & mkt=en-US & form=QBRE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Dear Sreenadhji, Yes, I understood that the way I suggested is not the right methodology needed to be adopted for such an exercise. The horoscope needs to be of a common figure as you suggested, each prediction needed to be supported by astrological factors/combinations etc. and those datas need to be explained in astrological terms and understood by all the learners. That is the reason I started answering to M. Nairji and exposed the horoscope. In fact the horoscope is of my son. When he was born, my father had predicted that he would achieve great career success and will rise to great heights. My Father was a noted Astrologer in Shoranur in his heydays and used to go for Ashtamangalya prasnam also. I have also analysed and analysed his horoscope number of times and have been watching his growth exactly as per my father's prediction. Now he is in States for his MBA (with full scholarship and a parttime job in the same college to assist the faculties in their research. At this young age of 28, he has been working as Instrumentation Manager in Reliance at Hazira, Surat. He worked there for 4 years and resigned now to take up his studies. He was a runner up in the Young Managers Contest in 2006 and this trophy ws presented at Bangalore by the great Industrialist Laxmi Mittal. Hope you will take the lead and organise the methodology for this exercise. Regards Ravi Nair , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Ravi ji, > The point is - > * Rather than the predictions itself we are interested in > learning/teaching the methodology to be used in deriving dasa > prediction. > * We want to make it a GROUP EXCERSISE (in which many group members > participate) rather than making it a conversation between 2 members > (which i term as 'individual chart reading style'). > Let rephrase this as well as coming exercises (let us make it a > continuous process) taking account of these points. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " rain13club " > <rain13@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > Yes, that would be a good idea. > > > > I just suggested one data for the sake of it, then I realised that > I > > will not be able to take part in the exercise and there is nothing > > for me to study. > > > > Regards > > > > Ravi Nair > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Madhu ji, > > > The problem with charts put forward by a single person, and > known > > to > > > a single person is that - > > > * there is only one person to verify the validity of the > readings > > and > > > * in essence the exercise will not give many the joy of > > participation > > > experience. > > > To avoid these pitfalls it is better to read the charts of > natives, > > > whom is well known (due to good or bad reason), but whose chart > is > > not > > > popular among the astrologers; at least among the group members. > The > > > individual suggesting the chart is not revealing the name of the > > > native also, which will safe guard the joy and truthfulness of the > > > exercise. But since the native and his life is well known later > the > > > majority members of the group can analysis and compare the results > > > predicted against reality. > > > Hope you will see the essence of the reason for my suggestion. > > > > > > Note 1: I never mentioned that it should be chart of a celebrity. > > > Apart from celebrities there are many good and bad people around. > As > > > well many who contributed well in Literature, Administration, > > Science, > > > Ancient Arts and so on. We can go for any such chart. > > > > > > Note 2: Here the proposed exercise is NOT for an individual (that > we > > > usually do by individual chart readings), but FOR THE PURPOSE OF > THE > > > GROUP. The point is " Thus every member should get a chance to > > evaluate > > > the reading " . I hope you will agree that, this is possible only > when > > > the chart is of a popular individual. > > > > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > --- In , " Balagurusurya " > > > <balagurusurya@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ram, > > > > > > > > I agree with your views of studying unknown charts. Reason is , > > if we go > > > > after celebriety charts, (mostly erroneus) ,they are not going > to > > join > > > > this group and tell us whether our analysis is correct or not. > On > > the > > > > contrary , if we comment on chart , like the one put forward by > > Ravi , > > > > where the latter knows all life events of the former, we could > > easily > > > > adjudge our own skills and pitfalls . > > > > > > > > I hope, Sreenadh will ponder , once again > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > M Nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Ram Jaswal " > > > > <rkjaswal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sreenadhji > > > > > > > > > > May I suggest otherwise? Most people can give lots of > different > > > > reasons as > > > > > to why certain events occur during certain Dasha periods > which > > can be > > > > true > > > > > as No single cause can always be attributed to it ie > something > > can > > > > occur due > > > > > to Dasha's/Transits etc . Note there is also a " saying " that > > each Maha > > > > Dasha > > > > > should only be evaluated after seeing the " Prashna " for the > > moment of > > > > the > > > > > change in Dasha ... > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't it be better to study an " unknown " chart to test the > > > > " reading " > > > > > ability of Dasha's etc? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and hoping comments taken in a positive sense? > > > > > > > > > > Jai Sita Ram > > > > > > > > > > Ram > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > 02 September 2007 08:48 > > > > > > > > > > Re: Vimshottarry dasa > > analysis > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ravi ji, > > > > > That is not enough. Confirm that many of the members of > this > > > > > group would be familiar with the life events of that person. > He > > should > > > > > be famous/popular due to some reason. If so we can proceed > with > > the > > > > > same, if not this horoscope won't be selected for the said > > exercise. > > > > > Love, > > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > <%40> > > > > > astrology , " A. Ravindran Nair " > > > > > rain13@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that would be a good idea. A student like me can > sharpen > > my > > > > > skills. I can provide the data of a horoscope for analysis. > > > > > > > > > > > > Date of birth - 20-06-1979 Boy > > > > > > Time of birth - 6.30 p.m. > > > > > > Place of birth - Palghat > > > > > > > > > > > > I rather familiar with all the events in his life. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Ravi Nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @: sreesog@: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 > > > > > 09:39:11 +0000 Re: > > Vimshottarry > > > > > dasa analysis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji!You said:==>> I request u to analys any one > > chart and > > > > > describe it based on > principles of astrology, which u can > do > > it > > > > > better than me .<== Ooops!! That is a trap! But yes, we will > do > > that > > > > > taking some chart -just for the sake of clarity (are we not > > doing it > > > > > already?!; I thinkwhat we do in all chart reading is that > > itself!). * > > > > > Let us take any chart (but don't mention whose it is), about > > whichmost > > > > > of us may know, and provide. * Take a specific period (Dasa) > in > > that > > > > > individual's life. * Let us go through the results that would > be > > > > > predicted and latercompare it with actual results.This may > > serve 2 > > > > > things. 1) The weight of previous knowledge contaminating > > predictions > > > > > can beavoided.2) The reading would be still prediction rather > > than a > > > > > post mortemanalysis.I request a third party (Srinivas ji, > > Panditji, > > > > > Pradeep, Justin orsome one else) to provide a chart. Remember > > the > > > > > chart should be ofsome one, about the life of whom, all of us > > know > > > > > already.All those who do not know `whose chart it is', will > > have a go > > > > > - onthe result predicted for that Dasa, for that individual. > > Let us > > > > > try toknow how much astrology helps us in arriving at correct > > > > > possibilities.Thus the preconditions are -. The predictions > > should be > > > > > for a particular Vimsottari Dasa period only.. The references > > and > > > > > technique used must be clarified in detail in > > thepost.Love,Sreenadh--- > > > > > In ancient_indian_ <% > > 40> > > > > > astrology , " sunil > > > > > nair " <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:>> > Hare ramakrishna,> > > dear > > > > > sreenadh,> > yes ,because of oversight ness and lack of > command > > over > > > > > laungage i> realy missed the point .Even though intitialy i > > planned to > > > > > write it> .Thanks for pointitng it out .I request u to analys > > any one > > > > > chart and> describe it based on principles of astrology,which > u > > can do > > > > > it better> than me .> > thanks and regrds> > sunil nair> > om > > shreem > > > > > mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > --- In > > > > > ancient_indian_ <% > > 40> > > > > > astrology , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> > > > > > wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Thanks for the very good and > > > > > informative mail. But still I think> > the question, " Whether > > good, > > > > > moderate or bad results should be> > predicted for a > particular > > > > > Dasa? " , which is given much importance in> > many texts and > many > > > > > methodologies are described for the same (as well> > > summarized > > in > > > > > your mail), is of less importance compared to the major> > > > question, > > > > > " What are the results to be predicted for a particular> > > > Dasa? " , > > > > > which usually gets ignored or given least importance in many> > > > > texts > > > > > that discusses the subject. The question with secondary > status> > > > (a > > > > > higher class subject) is given most importance and the > > question> > > > > > > with primary status (a lower class subject; the fundamental) > is > > given> > > > > > > least importance!! And the essential result - everybody is > > misled!> > > > > > > They ask questions and try their level best to determine > and > > talk a> > > > > > > lot about whether a Dasa will give - good, moderate or bad - > > > > > results;> > but pitifully fails to determine " What results > > should be > > > > > attributed> > to that period (Dasa)? " !!! Shouldn't we try to > > put the > > > > > record> > straight?> > Shouldn't we try to recast the right > > > > > perspective of -> > First, identifying the results that > should > > be > > > > > attributed to that> > Dasa; and then,> > Secondly, to > > identifying to > > > > > what extend/amount (large, moderate,> > weak) that results to > > > > > fructify?> > Of course for those who don't know the answer to > > the > > > > > first> > question, the answer to the second question (which > you > > to > > > > > address> > efficiently in your mail) will not be much use. > But > > to > > > > > those who know> > the answer to the first question, your mail > > would be > > > > > a much> > beneficial and inspiring one. Hope the members > would > > see > > > > > this point.> > Thanks for the good, earnest, comprehensive > > description > > > > > of the> > methodology to be adapted in Dasa analysis (second > > question> > > > > > > addressed).> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > --- In > > > > > ancient_indian_ <% > > 40> > > > > > astrology , " sunil nair " > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > > Dear > > > > > jyothishas and lovers of astrology,> > >> > > dasa analysis:- > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is realy a puzzling question even among the well > > established> > > > > > > > astrologers and skill is tested as u hav to say within one > > hour> > > > > > > window> > > max u r giving to ur customers ,People like K N > rao > > ji > > > > > they know s> > 40> > > kinds of differrent dasas and they > > collects > > > > > datas and questions and> > > answerring it tru applying > atleast > > 4 > > > > > popular dasas applicable to the> > > chart and so they r very > > safe .> > > > > > > > In delinating the effects of a dasha we must see which is > > more> > > > > > > > stronger and lagna or moon and see the results > > accordingly .for> > > > > > > this we> > > must see who is more stronger ,if lagna lord is > > lagna > > > > > ,jupiter ,mer> > > ,venus aspecting or situated in lagna are > > making > > > > > lagna very> > strong ,if> > > moon is more strong by above > > situations > > > > > we must give importance to> > > moon.And take moon sign as > > lagna. some > > > > > says till 30 years lagna> > then> > > upto 60 moon and later > > years sun > > > > > shud also be treated as lagna and> > shud> > > say the > > results ,but i > > > > > am not favring that as lagna is smallest> > unit and> > > > > happening > > > > > within max 2 hours anywhere u born in india ,so lagna> > > > should> > > > > > > > giv max good results in seeing the effect of dasa unless > > previous> > > > > > > > conditions ful filled . It says sun and mars gives results > in> > > > > > > > > > begining of a dasa ,jupiter and venus in middle and sani and > > moon> > > > > > > in end> > > of the dasa and mercury tru out the dasa ,which > ever > > > > > results> > signified> > > it by it will be giving but this is > > only a > > > > > general statement.> > > Depending on the positions and bhavas > > the > > > > > palnets will giv various> > > results . fro eg - we can take > > some one > > > > > has jupiter in 2nd> > house ,in one> > > chart its in dhanu > > rasi and > > > > > in another chart its in makar rasi ,so> > in> > > both charts > > jupiter > > > > > is in 2nd house .but if see by logic the dasa> > > ,apahara > (sub > > > > > periods) will differ in a big way .As in one chart> > its > 2nd> > > > > > > > > > lord and 5th lord staying in moola trikon and in another > chart > > the> > > > > > > lagna> > > lord and 4th lord situated in neecha rasi ,if no > > > > > cancellation s of> > > neechatwa the effect will be bad > > also .Even > > > > > though its dasa of lagna> > > lord . so i am trying to > > formulate some > > > > > of the principles which> > can> > > be useful in seeing a > dasa > > and > > > > > results> > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > 1) see> > > > > > > > the arohana veerya ( means in which rasi palnet is placed > > and see> > > > > > > its> > > movement from neecha to ucha position) ,Bhava > madhya > > stiti > > > > > ( normal> > > parasari bhava -not sreepathy) ,more points in > > ashta > > > > > varga for this> > > planet ,positioned in favrable places > like > > 10th > > > > > ,11th,or lagna ,also> > > ucha ,swashetra in rasi or vargas > > this r > > > > > generaly considered> > good.> > > 2)gulika lord ship > > (dispositor of > > > > > gulika --according to kerala> > > sampradaya) ,assossiation > with > > > > > gulika ,less points in ashta varga> > > ,sastru khsetra > > stithi ,neecha > > > > > stithi ,combust ,yoga with> > malefics,rasi> > > santhi,and > > bhava > > > > > santhi these dasas will be trouble some . 3)if> > > > positioned > > in > > > > > upachaya houses (3,6.10.11) those dasas supposed to be> > > > > good ,not > > > > > the lords of upachayas. 4)even if planet is benefic and> > > > well> > > > > > > > placed ,but weak the expectation of result will be fulfilled > > only in> > > > > > > > dreams --means not in actual life. 5)even if malefics or> > > > > > > > benefics if> > > they r placed in kendra ,trikona positions > > with> > > > > > > ucha ,swakshtra ,mitra> > > kshetra stithi and if aspected by > > benefics > > > > > or palced also in benefic> > > vargas the planets will giv > good > > > > > results 6)If dasa lord is> > strong and> > > and frnd of > lagna > > lord > > > > > good and favrable results can be expected .> > > 7)but if > enmy > > of > > > > > lagna lord and placed in dustana and weak then dasa> > > will > be > > > > > highly trouble some 8)Any planet who is assossiated with> > > a> > > > > > > > > > benefic will giv good results and assossiated with malefics > > will> > > > > > > giv bad> > > results.If mixed then mixed results . 9)If dasa > > lord is > > > > > benefic or> > > functional benefic if well placed with > strenght > > will > > > > > giv good> > results> > > and mafefic or functional malefics > ill > > placed > > > > > and weak will giv bad> > > results . 10) if the planet is > > placed in > > > > > sheershodaya sign it may> > giv> > > results in begining .and > > > > > prishtodaya sign it will giv results in> > end and> > > if in > > > > > ubhayogaya it will giv tru out the dasa its good or bad> > > > results .> > > > > > > > leo ,kanya,libra ,scorpio ,aquarius,gemini are > > > > > sheershodaya(rising> > with> > > head signs) and aries > > > > > ,taurus,cancer,sagitarius ,capricon are> > > prishtodaya > signs > > (rising > > > > > with tail part) and pisces is ubhayodaya> > sign> > > ( > rising > > with > > > > > both parts) 11)lord of the 6th house is bad and if> > he is> > > > > > > > > powerful in some other way the bad effects will be reduced > for> > > > > > > > > higher> > > extent .and he will giv more benefic results for > eg > > > > > --mercury is> > 6th> > > and 9th lord fro capricone lagna if > > placed in > > > > > virgo ,ucha rasi he> > will> > > be the best among dasas. 12) > It > > says > > > > > 2nd ,6th,8th nakshatra lords> > from> > > janma nakshatra > adhi > > pathy > > > > > order will be supposed to be best> > dasas> > > 13) if 3rd > > house or > > > > > 12th house and any weak planets are situated his> > > dasa > > apahara > > > > > ,chidra will be bad and if he is also with benefics> > then > it> > > > > > > > > > will modify the results. 14)If a planet is rasi santhi > > (begining> > > > > > > or> > > end of a sign) the dasa will be trouble> > > some ,sorrows > > > > > ,pains ,deseases> > > and various mishappes may be possible > and > > if the > > > > > planets is in 30 th> > > degree its very dangerous may be it > > can cause > > > > > death also. 15) The> > > planet positioned with rahu and and > > > > > dispositor of sign were rahu> > > paositioned cannot deliver > > good > > > > > results of them and rahu will> > deliver> > > that results. > 16) > > > > > planets positioned in purticular nashatra will> > aslo> > > > > give the > > > > > results of that nakshatra lord and if benefics from lagna> > > > more> > > > > > > > better results. 17)During the period of malefics ,the sub > > period> > > > > > > of> > > another malefics or enmy to that palnet or lagna lord > > or who > > > > > is> > > poitioned in dustana from dasa lord or who is placed > in > > weak> > > > > > > position in> > > rasi of malefic planets or houses such > > period will > > > > > be also trouble> > some.> > > 18) where ever malefic planets > are > > > > > positioned they give results> > > according to its bhava in > > frst 1/3 > > > > > rd of dasa and then rasi phala> > next> > > 1/3 and then > > according to > > > > > planets assossiated or amsa kathi pathi of> > > those > palnets. > > 19) if > > > > > any planet has got any malefics from 4th> > house> > > its > > position > > > > > during his dasa some problems regding property is> > > possible.> > > > > > > > > > 20)Benefic planet will give in first 1/3 rd part of its dasa > > its> > > > > > > rasi> > > phala then next 1/3 its bhava phala and the rest of > > the > > > > > results> > will be> > > given to aspects and conjns of various > > > > > planets. 21)If benefic and> > > malefic is sitting together > the > > dasa > > > > > of benefic will be bad and> > malefic> > > will be good . 22) > > any > > > > > planet if staying in ucha rasi and amsaka> > in> > > neecha > he > > cannot > > > > > giv good results and if everse it will giv best> > results> > > > > . a)if > > > > > sun neecha in amsaka --bad name ,loss of money ,problems to> > > > > > > > > father even death,also various losses. if ucha in amsaka same > > sun> > > > > > > > gives raja preethi (benefit from boss or govt ) pleasures > and> > > > > > > happyness> > > ,income tru royal assossaitions may be bad in > > end of > > > > > the dasa b)> > Moon> > > also same results mentioned above > but > > welfare > > > > > of mother shud be> > seen .> > > c)mars -if neechamsaka -- bad > > for > > > > > brothers and kids and property> > > uchamsaka mars -- bhoomi > > labham > > > > > ,dhana labham along with happyness> > from> > > brothers . d) > > budha is > > > > > neechamsaka can giv poverty ,loss of> > > intelligence ,and > > also our > > > > > actions will be judged very badly .> > > uchamsaka can giv > > first bad > > > > > then good positions and experiences> > e) jup> > > in > > neechamsaka > > > > > --problems from govt and theifs ,enmty with every> > body> > > > > ,even > > > > > our mantras and poojas may not giv good effect in uchamsaka> > > > > > > > > --raja preethi ,comforts,fame,gain money ,and increse in > > education> > > > > > > and> > > knowledge. f) shukra in neechamsaka -problem to > spouse > > and> > > > > > > problems> > > tru spouse or wemen.loss of comfort,loss of > > luck ,less > > > > > money ,and> > change> > > is position to fall from position. > in > > > > > uchamsaka - very good> > comforting> > > experiences ,good > > experince > > > > > regrds spouse and kids,fame ,luck and> > wealth> > > . g) > sani > > in > > > > > neechamsa-- first good then worst like expericing the> > > > hell > > in > > > > > this earth uchamsaka first problems tru enmies ,theifs and> > > > then> > > > > > > > foreign journey ,comforts and wealth ,sani gives stable > > wealth may> > > > > > > be> > > survive tru generations. 23) rahu and ketu gives > best > > > > > results if> > > joined in kendra with trikona lords or > trikona > > with > > > > > kendra lords> > and if> > > alone they giv the results of > rasi > > lord > > > > > and also nakshatra lord> > > generaly rahu in first half of > > zodiac > > > > > gives best results and other> > half> > > is good for ketu It > > says > > > > > aries ,taurus ,cancer if rahu situated in> > good> > > bhavas > > good > > > > > results like gain of money ,knowledge ,raja preethi> > > > > ,happiness in > > > > > pisces and dhanus fame ,vehicles and authority and> > > > > capricon and > > > > > virgo higher positions ,wealth ,and happiness from> > spouse> > > > > > and > > > > > kids. 24) if planets assossiated with maraka lords like 7th> > > > > and> > > > > > > > 2nd lords such periods may be dangerous esp those who > > assossiated> > > > > > > with> > > 7th lords. 25) gulik bhavanathi pathi ,gulika > navamsa > > lord > > > > > in> > their> > > dasa s r bad esp if they r also malefics but > > if that > > > > > planets has> > drishti> > > pf good planets and also placed > > well in > > > > > chart the bad results are> > > nullified . same is the case > of > > gulika > > > > > degree lords dasa again if> > good> > > planets are aspecting > > or guru > > > > > aspecting ,or gulika in guru kshetra> > this> > > results > > cancelles a > > > > > great extent. 26) if sani dasa happenes 4th in> > > series > and > > guru > > > > > dasa 6th and kuja or rahu dasa is 5th it says very> > bad.> > > > > > 27) > > > > > the last part of rahu dasa and the planets conjoined with > rahu> > > > > > > > > also> > > says bad . 28)rahu -guru dasa for men and sukra - > > surya for > > > > > ladies> > kuja> > > -rahu for both is generelay find bad . 29) > > Dasa of > > > > > ashtama lord is> > bad> > > whether its dasa or sub dasa. 30) > > 3/6/11 th > > > > > lords if they are> > benefics> > > their dasa is supposed to > be > > bad. > > > > > 31)moon and sun and lagna lord> > has> > > no ashtamadhi > pathy > > dosha. > > > > > 32)see in which house from dasa lord> > the> > > apahara lord > is > > > > > placed and results also will be according to the> > place> > > > > > ment. > > > > > 33) End of the dasa known as dasa chidra and its sowing the> > > > > deed> > > > > > > > of other dasa and this periods shud handle with care. > While> > > > > > > seeing any> > > dasa see the relation between dasa lord and > > lagna lord > > > > > and dasa> > lord and> > > sub dasa lord it will giv a clue to > > the > > > > > results of dasa also> > transit> > > also plays a good role > is > > making > > > > > a better or slow results And> > delinating> > > tru various > > vargas is > > > > > not mentioned here . 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