Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Dear Srinivas ji, Beautiful as always! My collection is growing big! - ref. below to know why Love, Sreenadh , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: The principle of Bhavat_Bhavam has stood the test of time and is a powerful tool in an logical & analytical astrologer. Further, continuing the discussion on the placement of the Lagna Lords in various houses....this is in addition to what Sreenadh, Sunil Nair & others have already mentioned. The following are the observations of real horoscopes and real people over a long time. LL in Lagna = The native is content and all his decisions are centered on his pure likes and dislikes, independent in thinking and actions LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen well off people in their 70's worrying about their properties, inspite of dividing the property during their time, with disciplined cultured sons well settled. They are so obsessed that their wife's got so annoyed and threaten with divorce proceedings or return to her parent's place !!! - Traditional Indian Ultimatum !! even at that age !!! - thanks to Hindu joint family values & systems} LL in 3H = The native is close to his brothers, would like to hang around with friends or always looking to go for outing, man of hobbies or extra-curricular activities LL in 4H = A very homely person, whose concept of world - Myself + Home { An ideal combinations to look in all prospective husband } LL in 5H = A native self taught, gives importance to knowledge, prone to speculation, interested in mystic sciences, can be termed hardworking, yet lucky !! LL in 6H = A native worried about everything under the sky !! Mind pondering many things at a time LL in 7H = A native who is inclined to opposite gender. LL in 8H = Takes a person away from family !!! Too much of research or probing....ignoring the family...!!! LL in 9H = A religious person LL in 10H = A good combination a native doing good karma..... LL in 11H = A person looking for gains and little materialistic....he would rise in life LL in 12H = A person of higher morals, lacks in concentration, can be a diseased or sex prone or liking PHOREN things or wandering mind or dealing anything phoren !! On the subject of Bhavat Bhavam, one also need to consider that when looking at 2H, see also 8H. Taking a real case of current life style. 8H is for sudden wealth or inheritance. From 9H it is 12H. So once the father has expired, the property gets divided or inherited by children !! Death comes its own sweet timing - suddenly. Always look at a house in terms of pairs - i.e. 2H & 8H, 4H & 10H, 6H & 12H..etc.. Sreenadh has looked at quandrants, while I am adding a different direction - supplementing it. A strong 10H would ensure, 4H suffers to an extent, A strong LL ensures 7H suffers, A strong 6H or diseased body, cannot enjoy 12H attributes, so a strong 12H ensures that you end up with diseases { taking a totally negative attributes of 12H & 6H }. Now adding a small twist. A strong 3H ensures, 9H yield its results of Bhagya to the hardworking person or displaying his valor !! Similarly, a strong 5H also ensures, gain of wealth i.e. attributes of 11H to an extent.- How is it ??? Explain ?? Live to you all to explore !!! The ancient seers have written numerous things, about planetary placements.....etc, which if studied properly, memorized and applied, the success of predictions would be high. Most of the amateur astros often get " perplexed " when they see a real horoscope and often end up with muscled & puzzled face - where to start & what to say ?? Sreeram Srinivas , " Rup Krishen Baqaya " <baqayarup@ wrote: Hi friends, Am giving below the results of the lord of lagna in different houses as i perceive them to be.I may mention here that these notes have been prepared during my last 25 years of interaction with astrology after looking at more or less all the vedic astrology classics and summarising/modifying the results to suit present times:- 1.Lord of lagna in lagna:-The native is healthy,that is to say without sickness.He is handsome,long lived and very strong.He makes progress in life with his own efforts.He is happy,rich and lives a luxurious life.He is respected in the society and makes a name for his dynasty.He may receive land from the king.Such a native may marry twice or have intimate relations with some female other than his wife. 2.Lord of lagna in the second house:-The native gains in various ways.He is learned,proud and of religious conduct.May have contacts with many women.If the lord of the first house is in the second house in a shubha yoga the native will accumulate alot of money.If in an ashubha yoga the native will remain worried about money..The native will be long lived,fat,tall and a prominent officer of his town.Gets happiness from his family and eats delicious food.Is good at give and take.May be prominent in his dynasty. 3.Lord of lagna in third house:-The native is courageous like a lion.He is proud,rich,wise and happy.The native has good brothers and friends and gets happiness from them.If the lord of lagna is in the 3rd house in an ashubha yoga the native is dirty.However if aspected by a benefic the native is good at speech.The native is religious,charitable,generous,strong and brave.He is also of an independent disposition,devoted to his duty and of a military temperament.If the lord of lagna in the third is debilitated,the native developes contacts with women other than his wife.If the lord of lagna is venus the native will marry two women. To be contd , " Rup Krishen Baqaya " <baqayarup@ wrote: Lagna lord in the fourth house:-The native will derive happiness from his mother/parents and will be devoted to them.Will have number of brothers.Will be handsome,happy,virtuous and sexy.The native will also have happiness in respect of vehicles,will get delicious meals of different varieties,will be respected by the king and society in general,and will live in luxury.He will have many friends and will be long lived.The native will earn substantailly,means to say that he will earn more than his father.He may be a frugal eater.He will receive house/lands in inheritance. Lagna Lord in fifth house:-If the lord of the ascendant is in the fifth in a shubha yoga the native will have many sons whom the native will love and who are religious,humble and long lived.However if the lord of ascendant is in the fifth house in an ashubha yoga,the native may not have much happiness from children and the first child may even die.The native will take interest in singing and such other arts.He will be an officer and will be of good conduct,famous,long lived and generous.He will do good deeds.Such a native is generally rich,wise and learned. Lagna lord in sixth house:-If the lagna lord is in the sixth house in a shubha yoga,the native will be without sickness,strong,rich,miser and one who does good deeds.Though he may have many enemies he will destroy them.He will also be long lived and will derive happiness from mother,son and maternal uncle.If however the lord of the ascendant is in the sixth house in an ashubha yoga,the native will be thin and sickly,troubled by his enemies,generally unsuccessful and does not have good servants.Further to add here that good results(except the result pertaining to happiness from maternal uncle)are experienced when either Sun,Mars or Saturn as lord of ascendant are placed in the sixth house.Other planets give ordinary results. Lagna lord in the seventh house:-If the lord of the ascendant is in the seventh house in a shubha yoga the native will have an aura about him(Tejaswi),will be of good conduct and will have a beautiful/ virtuous wife who will be clever in many arts.Such a native will be kingly,rich,happy,liking luxury,handsome and humble.However if the lord of lagna is in the seventh house in an ashubha yoga the native will be poor,of a detached mentality and will have troubles relating to his wife who may even die. Generally such a native is oversexed,travels alot,gets involved in litigations,is argumentative and indulges in trading. Good results are experienced if the concerned lord of ascendant is Sun,moon,mercury or saturn.Bad results are experienced if the lord of ascendant is Jupiter or venus.Mars as lord of ascendant in the seventh gives ordinary results. , rk dash <arkaydash@ wrote: Shreenadh, Here is the bhavashraya phala of L1 as found in the compedium. There is an 'result' for the 5th hse, but I 'll take time to make out what is meant. In 1st house Healthy, long-lived, king(ly), strong, gain of land 2nd hse Wealthy, engaged in right action, head of the locality, life of plenty, corpulent 3rd hse Has good friends, religiosity, generosity; brave, strong 4th hse King's favourite, lives life to the full (could also mean 'very long-lived,' the expression being prachura-jivita), earns by right means, devoted to father, voracious 5th hse Good children, engaged in good deeds, has humility, known his for good qualities 6th hse Healthy, strong, gain of land, miserly, rich, subdues enemies, on the side of good deeds 7th hse Brilliant, good manners, cultured wife, spends himself fast during coitus, good-looking 8th hse Miserly, unreliable in financial matters, very long-lived, harsh in speech if the planet is a malefic, large physique if a benefic 9th hse Good people are his friends, good deeds, balanced (without extremes), cultured, known for his good deeds, brilliant 10th hse Gains from ruler (state), learned, cultured, reverent towards guru and mother, king, famous 11th hse Long-lived, has progeny, spends himself fast during coitus, powerful 12th hse Harsh speech, very sharp mind, goes abroad, a free loader Now, the rationale. Examples will of couse pour in. But we have to see where a particular result is flowing from -- from L1 in a particular hse, or other planet/lords' configuration. You agree? RK Sreenadh <sreesog@ wrote: Dear All, The primary derivations for Lagna lord in various houses as per BPHS is given below. I invite all to start a discussion on the same. ================================= As per BPHS, for Lagna lord in - Lagna: healthy body, courageous, uncertain in decisions, 2 wives 2nd house: knowledgeable, good earnings, happiness, good habits, righteous, many wives, good qualities. 3rd house: valorous like a lion, all kinds of wealth, 2 wives, intelligent. 4th house: love and affection from healthy mother with good longevity, many brothers/sisters, lust, beauty and good qualities. 5th house: angry, moderate happiness from children, loss of first born (child), admired by government and authorities. 6th house: (especially if aspected by malefics) trouble from enemies, bad health. 7th house: (especially if Lagna lord is a malefic) his wife will die early (or married life will not go long), he will become uninterested in worldly life and wife, will be detached towards his native land and wander/visit many places, It is possible that he won't be much wealthy (he would be a poor man) or also that he would be a very wealthy person like a king. 8th house: master of some branch of knowledge, troubled by diseases, interested in others wives, will be interested in all kinds of games such as cards, chess, dice, lottery and so on, very much angry. 9th house: lucky, loved by the public, devotee of Vishnu, master of words and oratory, will have good wealth wife and children. 10th house: admired by government and people in power (the native will have a good job), he would be a government servant, very much popular. 11th house: much income from many sources, good popularity (popularity due to good deeds, celebrity), good qualities, many wives. 12th house: good health, extravagant without reason, angry (especially if not benefics are present in 12th and if no benefic aspects 12th) ================================= Love, Sreenadh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 The principle of Bhavat_Bhavam has stood the test of time and is a powerful tool in an logical & analytical astrologer. Further, continuing the discussion on the placement of the Lagna Lords in various houses....this is in addition to what Sreenadh, Sunil Nair & others have already mentioned. The following are the observations of real horoscopes and real people over a long time. LL in Lagna = The native is content and all his decisions are centered on his pure likes and dislikes, independent in thinking and actions LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen well off people in their 70's worrying about their properties, inspite of dividing the property during their time, with disciplined cultured sons well settled. They are so obsessed that their wife's got so annoyed and threaten with divorce proceedings or return to her parent's place !!! - Traditional Indian Ultimatum !! even at that age !!! - thanks to Hindu joint family values & systems} LL in 3H = The native is close to his brothers, would like to hang around with friends or always looking to go for outing, man of hobbies or extra-curricular activities LL in 4H = A very homely person, whose concept of world - Myself + Home { An ideal combinations to look in all prospective husband } LL in 5H = A native self taught, gives importance to knowledge, prone to speculation, interested in mystic sciences, can be termed hardworking, yet lucky !! LL in 6H = A native worried about everything under the sky !! Mind pondering many things at a time LL in 7H = A native who is inclined to opposite gender. LL in 8H = Takes a person away from family !!! Too much of research or probing....ignoring the family...!!! LL in 9H = A religious person LL in 10H = A good combination a native doing good karma..... LL in 11H = A person looking for gains and little materialistic....he would rise in life LL in 12H = A person of higher morals, lacks in concentration, can be a diseased or sex prone or liking PHOREN things or wandering mind or dealing anything phoren !! On the subject of Bhavat Bhavam, one also need to consider that when looking at 2H, see also 8H. Taking a real case of current life style. 8H is for sudden wealth or inheritance. From 9H it is 12H. So once the father has expired, the property gets divided or inherited by children !! Death comes its own sweet timing - suddenly. Always look at a house in terms of pairs - i.e. 2H & 8H, 4H & 10H, 6H & 12H..etc.. Sreenadh has looked at quandrants, while I am adding a different direction - supplementing it. A strong 10H would ensure, 4H suffers to an extent, A strong LL ensures 7H suffers, A strong 6H or diseased body, cannot enjoy 12H attributes, so a strong 12H ensures that you end up with diseases { taking a totally negative attributes of 12H & 6H }. Now adding a small twist. A strong 3H ensures, 9H yield its results of Bhagya to the hardworking person or displaying his valor !! Similarly, a strong 5H also ensures, gain of wealth i.e. attributes of 11H to an extent.- How is it ??? Explain ?? Live to you all to explore !!! The ancient seers have written numerous things, about planetary placements.....etc, which if studied properly, memorized and applied, the success of predictions would be high. Most of the amateur astros often get "perplexed" when they see a real horoscope and often end up with muscled & puzzled face - where to start & what to say ?? Sreeram Srinivas Home : +91 11 2785 1519 Cell : +91 98682 31817 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Hare krishna, dear sreeram srinivas ji, very good post ,actualy u made a good observations yes even savants astro also dont ask us to follow rules ditto that is why prashna maarga said a astrologer shud be uha poha padu .astrologer can use his analytical learning and reasoning power . thanks & regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote:>> The principle of Bhavat_Bhavam has stood the test of time and is a powerful> tool in an logical & analytical astrologer. Further, continuing the> discussion on the placement of the Lagna Lords in various houses....this is> in addition to what Sreenadh, Sunil Nair & others have already mentioned.> The following are the observations of real horoscopes and real people over a> long time.> > LL in Lagna = The native is content and all his decisions are centered> on his pure likes and dislikes, independent in thinking and actions> > LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen well off people> in their 70's worrying about their properties, inspite of dividing the> property during their time, with disciplined cultured sons well settled.> They are so obsessed that their wife's got so annoyed and threaten with> divorce proceedings or return to her parent's place !!! - Traditional Indian> Ultimatum !! even at that age !!! - thanks to Hindu joint family values & > systems}> > LL in 3H = The native is close to his brothers, would like to hang> around with friends or always looking to go for outing, man of hobbies or> extra-curricular activities> > LL in 4H = A very homely person, whose concept of world - Myself +> Home { An ideal combinations to look in all prospective husband }> > LL in 5H = A native self taught, gives importance to knowledge,> prone to speculation, interested in mystic sciences, can be termed> hardworking, yet lucky !!> > LL in 6H = A native worried about everything under the sky !! Mind> pondering many things at a time> > LL in 7H = A native who is inclined to opposite gender.> > LL in 8H = Takes a person away from family !!! Too much of research> or probing....ignoring the family...!!!> > LL in 9H = A religious person> > LL in 10H = A good combination a native doing good karma.....> > LL in 11H = A person looking for gains and little materialistic....he> would rise in life> > LL in 12H = A person of higher morals, lacks in concentration, can be> a diseased or sex prone or liking PHOREN things or wandering mind or dealing> anything phoren !!> > On the subject of Bhavat Bhavam, one also need to consider that when looking> at 2H, see also 8H. Taking a real case of current life style. 8H is for> sudden wealth or inheritance. From 9H it is 12H. So once the father has> expired, the property gets divided or inherited by children !! Death> comes its own sweet timing - suddenly. > > Always look at a house in terms of pairs - i.e. 2H & 8H, 4H & 10H, 6H & > 12H..etc.. Sreenadh has looked at quandrants, while I am adding a> different direction - supplementing it. A strong 10H would ensure, 4H> suffers to an extent, A strong LL ensures 7H suffers, A strong 6H or> diseased body, cannot enjoy 12H attributes, so a strong 12H ensures that> you end up with diseases { taking a totally negative attributes of 12H & 6H> }. > > Now adding a small twist. A strong 3H ensures, 9H yield its results of> Bhagya to the hardworking person or displaying his valor !! Similarly, a> strong 5H also ensures, gain of wealth i.e. attributes of 11H to an extent.-> How is it ??? Explain ?? Live to you all to explore !!!> > The ancient seers have written numerous things, about planetary> placements.....etc, which if studied properly, memorized and applied, the> success of predictions would be high. Most of the amateur astros often> get "perplexed" when they see a real horoscope and often end up with muscled> & puzzled face - where to start & what to say ?? > > > Sreeram Srinivas> Home : +91 11 2785 1519 > Cell : +91 98682 31817 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 The variation to the prediction based on the LL in various houses, undergo a change or modifications, based on the planets constituting the Lagna Lord, ownership of houses, Sign in which it is placed. Will use this example in the discussions later. Kindly mention the Lagna Signs of the quoted example. Is it Cancer or Sagattarius or Pisces ?? With regards, Sreeram srinivas -owner [-owner ] On Behalf Of renunw Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:51 AM -owner Re: Bhavat_Bhavam & LL Placements Dear Sreeram ji, Thanks for an interesting posting...especially taking houses in pairs and sharing your research knowledge with others. Since your observations are based on real horoscopes and real people ...I would say that I cannot agree with the following: " LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen well off people in their 70's worrying about their properties, inspite of dividing the property during their time,.... " In a real life case, husband and wife both have thier LLs in 2H but never ever keep anything for themselves. Instead everything is distributed not only among their children but among others too! Can these natives be called money minded? Sure, other planetary placements may have an explanation to this exception to your observation. May be you have a better explanation... But a special feature in this couple is that they are 1st cousins if that has to do anything with LL placed in 2H. blessings Renu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 lagna signs of the quoted examples: Husband - Leo Wife Scorpio blessings Renunw , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > The variation to the prediction based on the LL in various houses, undergo a > change or modifications, based on the planets constituting the Lagna Lord, > ownership of houses, Sign in which it is placed. Will use this example in > the discussions later. Kindly mention the Lagna Signs of the quoted > example. Is it Cancer or Sagattarius or Pisces ?? > > With regards, > Sreeram srinivas > > > -owner > [-owner ] On Behalf Of renunw > Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:51 AM > -owner > Re: Bhavat_Bhavam & LL Placements > > Dear Sreeram ji, > > Thanks for an interesting posting...especially taking houses in pairs and > sharing your research knowledge with others. > > Since your observations are based on real horoscopes and real people ...I > would say that I cannot agree with the following: > > " LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen well > off people in their 70's worrying about their properties, inspite of > dividing the property during their time,.... " > > In a real life case, husband and wife both have thier LLs in 2H but never > ever keep anything for themselves. Instead everything is distributed not > only among their children but among others too! Can these natives be called > money minded? Sure, other planetary placements may have an explanation to > this exception to your observation. May be you have a better explanation... > > But a special feature in this couple is that they are 1st cousins if that > has to do anything with LL placed in 2H. > > blessings > > Renu > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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