LL Placements - LL lord in 5th house (lose of first child)

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Dear RK ji,

I have a query for you. Parasara tells us that the placement of

LL in 5th house can cause lose of first child; while you disagreed by

pointing out that it cannot be true, since most other texts give the

result 'susuta' (good child) for the same. I doubted possibly

Parasara meant 'if the lagna lord is a malefic and placed in 5th then

lose of first child should be predicted'. This is the background, of

this query.

On retrospect I felt that - it can not be so. If benefic/malefic

considerations need to be included Parasara must have mentioned the

same in the sloka; but he didn't. Thus it essentialy means that 'the

placement of LL in 5th can cause untimely death of first child for

sure'! Now the question - Why? [Answer pls ]

I would request you to take every sign, consider the LL, and place it

in 5th house from there and notice the specialties, and then comment

on Parasara's derivation.

People with the above said combination are welcome to compare the

above derivation with actual results.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

> , " sreeram srinivas "

> <sreeram64@ wrote:

>

> The principle of Bhavat_Bhavam has stood the test of time and is a

> powerful

> tool in an logical & analytical astrologer. Further, continuing the

> discussion on the placement of the Lagna Lords in various

> houses....this is

> in addition to what Sreenadh, Sunil Nair & others have already

> mentioned.

> The following are the observations of real horoscopes and real

> people over a

> long time.

>

> LL in Lagna = The native is content and all his decisions are

> centered

> on his pure likes and dislikes, independent in thinking and actions

>

> LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen well

> off people

> in their 70's worrying about their properties, inspite of dividing

> the

> property during their time, with disciplined cultured sons well

> settled.

> They are so obsessed that their wife's got so annoyed and threaten

> with

> divorce proceedings or return to her parent's place !!! -

> Traditional Indian

> Ultimatum !! even at that age !!! - thanks to Hindu joint family

> values &

> systems}

>

> LL in 3H = The native is close to his brothers, would like

> to hang

> around with friends or always looking to go for outing, man of

> hobbies or

> extra-curricular activities

>

> LL in 4H = A very homely person, whose concept of world -

> Myself +

> Home { An ideal combinations to look in all prospective husband }

>

> LL in 5H = A native self taught, gives importance to

> knowledge,

> prone to speculation, interested in mystic sciences, can be termed

> hardworking, yet lucky !!

>

> LL in 6H = A native worried about everything under the

> sky !! Mind

> pondering many things at a time

>

> LL in 7H = A native who is inclined to opposite gender.

>

> LL in 8H = Takes a person away from family !!! Too much of

> research

> or probing....ignoring the family...!!!

>

> LL in 9H = A religious person

>

> LL in 10H = A good combination a native doing good karma.....

>

> LL in 11H = A person looking for gains and little

> materialistic....he

> would rise in life

>

> LL in 12H = A person of higher morals, lacks in concentration,

> can be

> a diseased or sex prone or liking PHOREN things or wandering mind or

> dealing

> anything phoren !!

>

> On the subject of Bhavat Bhavam, one also need to consider that when

> looking

> at 2H, see also 8H. Taking a real case of current life style. 8H

> is for

> sudden wealth or inheritance. From 9H it is 12H. So once the

> father has

> expired, the property gets divided or inherited by children !!

> Death

> comes its own sweet timing - suddenly.

>

> Always look at a house in terms of pairs - i.e. 2H & 8H, 4H & 10H,

> 6H &

> 12H..etc.. Sreenadh has looked at quandrants, while I am adding a

> different direction - supplementing it. A strong 10H would ensure,

> 4H

> suffers to an extent, A strong LL ensures 7H suffers, A strong 6H

> or

> diseased body, cannot enjoy 12H attributes, so a strong 12H ensures

> that

> you end up with diseases { taking a totally negative attributes of

> 12H & 6H

> }.

>

> Now adding a small twist. A strong 3H ensures, 9H yield its

> results of

> Bhagya to the hardworking person or displaying his valor !!

> Similarly, a

> strong 5H also ensures, gain of wealth i.e. attributes of 11H to an

> extent.-

> How is it ??? Explain ?? Live to you all to explore !!!

>

> The ancient seers have written numerous things, about planetary

> placements.....etc, which if studied properly, memorized and

> applied, the

> success of predictions would be high. Most of the amateur astros

> often

> get " perplexed " when they see a real horoscope and often end up with

> muscled

> & puzzled face - where to start & what to say ??

>

> Sreeram Srinivas

>

> , " Rup Krishen

> Baqaya "

> <baqayarup@ wrote:

>

> Hi friends, Am giving below the results of the lord of lagna in

> different houses as i perceive them to be.I may mention here that

> these notes have been prepared during my last 25 years of

> interaction

> with astrology after looking at more or less all the vedic

> astrology

> classics and summarising/modifying the results to suit present

> times:-

> 1.Lord of lagna in lagna:-The native is healthy,that is to say

> without

> sickness.He is handsome,long lived and very strong.He makes

> progress

> in life with his own efforts.He is happy,rich and lives a

> luxurious

> life.He is respected in the society and makes a name for his

> dynasty.He may receive land from the king.Such a native may marry

> twice or have intimate relations with some female other than his

> wife.

> 2.Lord of lagna in the second house:-The native gains in various

> ways.He is learned,proud and of religious conduct.May have

> contacts

> with many women.If the lord of the first house is in the second

> house

> in a shubha yoga the native will accumulate alot of money.If in an

> ashubha yoga the native will remain worried about money..The

> native

> will be long lived,fat,tall and a prominent officer of his

> town.Gets

> happiness from his family and eats delicious food.Is good at give

> and

> take.May be prominent in his dynasty.

> 3.Lord of lagna in third house:-The native is courageous like a

> lion.He is proud,rich,wise and happy.The native has good brothers

> and

> friends and gets happiness from them.If the lord of lagna is in

> the

> 3rd house in an ashubha yoga the native is dirty.However if

> aspected

> by a benefic the native is good at speech.The native is

> religious,charitable,generous,strong and brave.He is also of an

> independent disposition,devoted to his duty and of a military

> temperament.If the lord of lagna in the third is debilitated,the

> native developes contacts with women other than his wife.If the

> lord

> of lagna is venus the native will marry two women.

> To be contd

> , " Rup Krishen

> Baqaya "

> <baqayarup@ wrote:

>

> Lagna lord in the fourth house:-The native will derive happiness

> from

> his mother/parents and will be devoted to them.Will have number of

> brothers.Will be handsome,happy,virtuous and sexy.The native will

> also

> have happiness in respect of vehicles,will get delicious meals of

> different varieties,will be respected by the king and society in

> general,and will live in luxury.He will have many friends and

> will be

> long lived.The native will earn substantailly,means to say that he

> will earn more than his father.He may be a frugal eater.He will

> receive house/lands in inheritance.

> Lagna Lord in fifth house:-If the lord of the ascendant is in the

> fifth in a shubha yoga the native will have many sons whom the

> native

> will love and who are religious,humble and long lived.However if

> the

> lord of ascendant is in the fifth house in an ashubha yoga,the

> native

> may not have much happiness from children and the first child may

> even

> die.The native will take interest in singing and such other

> arts.He

> will be an officer and will be of good conduct,famous,long lived

> and

> generous.He will do good deeds.Such a native is generally

> rich,wise

> and learned.

> Lagna lord in sixth house:-If the lagna lord is in the sixth

> house in

> a shubha yoga,the native will be without

> sickness,strong,rich,miser

> and one who does good deeds.Though he may have many enemies he

> will

> destroy them.He will also be long lived and will derive happiness

> from

> mother,son and maternal uncle.If however the lord of the

> ascendant is

> in the sixth house in an ashubha yoga,the native will be thin and

> sickly,troubled by his enemies,generally unsuccessful and does not

> have good servants.Further to add here that good results(except

> the

> result pertaining to happiness from maternal uncle)are experienced

> when either Sun,Mars or Saturn as lord of ascendant are placed in

> the

> sixth house.Other planets give ordinary results.

> Lagna lord in the seventh house:-If the lord of the ascendant is

> in

> the seventh house in a shubha yoga the native will have an aura

> about

> him(Tejaswi),will be of good conduct and will have a beautiful/

> virtuous wife who will be clever in many arts.Such a native will

> be

> kingly,rich,happy,liking luxury,handsome and humble.However if the

> lord of lagna is in the seventh house in an ashubha yoga the

> native

> will be poor,of a detached mentality and will have troubles

> relating

> to his wife who may even die.

> Generally such a native is oversexed,travels alot,gets involved in

> litigations,is argumentative and indulges in trading.

> Good results are experienced if the concerned lord of ascendant is

> Sun,moon,mercury or saturn.Bad results are experienced if the

> lord of

> ascendant is Jupiter or venus.Mars as lord of ascendant in the

> seventh

> gives ordinary results.

>

> , rk dash

> <arkaydash@ wrote:

>

> Shreenadh,

> Here is the bhavashraya phala of L1 as found in the compedium.

> There is an 'result' for the 5th hse, but I 'll take time to make

> out

> what is meant.

>

> In 1st house

> Healthy, long-lived, king(ly), strong, gain of land

>

> 2nd hse

> Wealthy, engaged in right action, head of the locality, life of

> plenty, corpulent

>

> 3rd hse

> Has good friends, religiosity, generosity; brave, strong

>

> 4th hse

> King's favourite, lives life to the full (could also mean 'very

> long-lived,' the expression being prachura-jivita), earns by right

> means, devoted to father, voracious

>

> 5th hse

> Good children, engaged in good deeds, has humility, known his

> for

> good qualities

>

> 6th hse

> Healthy, strong, gain of land, miserly, rich, subdues enemies,

> on

> the side of good deeds

>

> 7th hse

> Brilliant, good manners, cultured wife, spends himself fast

> during

> coitus, good-looking

>

> 8th hse

> Miserly, unreliable in financial matters, very long-lived, harsh

> in speech if the planet is a malefic, large physique if a benefic

>

> 9th hse

> Good people are his friends, good deeds, balanced (without

> extremes), cultured, known for his good deeds, brilliant

>

> 10th hse

> Gains from ruler (state), learned, cultured, reverent towards

> guru

> and mother, king, famous

>

> 11th hse

> Long-lived, has progeny, spends himself fast during coitus,

> powerful

>

> 12th hse

> Harsh speech, very sharp mind, goes abroad, a free loader

>

>

> Now, the rationale. Examples will of couse pour in. But we have

> to

> see where a particular result is flowing from -- from L1 in a

> particular hse, or other planet/lords' configuration. You agree?

>

> RK

>

> Sreenadh <sreesog@ wrote:

> Dear All,

> The primary derivations for Lagna lord in various houses

> as per

> BPHS is given below. I invite all to start a discussion on

> the

> same.

> =================================

> As per BPHS, for Lagna lord in -

> Lagna: healthy body, courageous, uncertain in decisions,

> 2 wives

> 2nd house: knowledgeable, good earnings, happiness, good

> habits,

> righteous, many wives, good qualities.

> 3rd house: valorous like a lion, all kinds of wealth, 2

> wives,

> intelligent.

> 4th house: love and affection from healthy mother with

> good

> longevity, many brothers/sisters, lust, beauty and good

> qualities.

> 5th house: angry, moderate happiness from children, loss

> of

> first

> born (child), admired by government and authorities.

> 6th house: (especially if aspected by malefics) trouble

> from

> enemies, bad health.

> 7th house: (especially if Lagna lord is a malefic) his

> wife

> will

> die early (or married life will not go long), he will

> become

> uninterested in worldly life and wife, will be detached

> towards his

> native land and wander/visit many places, It is possible

> that he

> won't be much wealthy (he would be a poor man) or also that

> he

> would

> be a very wealthy person like a king.

> 8th house: master of some branch of knowledge, troubled

> by

> diseases, interested in others wives, will be interested in

> all

> kinds

> of games such as cards, chess, dice, lottery and so on,

> very much

> angry.

> 9th house: lucky, loved by the public, devotee of Vishnu,

> master of

> words and oratory, will have good wealth wife and children.

> 10th house: admired by government and people in power (the

> native

> will have a good job), he would be a government servant,

> very

> much

> popular.

> 11th house: much income from many sources, good

> popularity

> (popularity due to good deeds, celebrity), good qualities,

> many

> wives.

> 12th house: good health, extravagant without reason,

> angry

> (especially if not benefics are present in 12th and if no

> benefic

> aspects 12th)

> =================================

>

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>