Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 LL in 2H: When LL is placed in 2H and if it has no other single relationship or commitment with/to other planets/houses, naturally the native will tend to keep all one's wealth to oneself, and.. 'money mindedness' is valid. LL in the house of earnings etc.... will make the native wonder what to do with all one's property and earnings. The native [LL] surrounded by so much wealth with no other being [other planetary influences] to claim all that wealth will naturally wonder and worry about it. Sreeram ji specifically mentions that many rich people he knows has this problem. So it is essential that other planetry placements in the horsocope promises all that riches. On the other hand if the same condition prevails in a very poor native, she/he [mind you ..never forget the female species of humans which everyone seems to be forgetting in this forum], may wonder and worry about earning money all the time...once again agreeing with Sreeram ji's observation ... " money mindedness " .. Then the picture may change dramatically or mildly depending on other planetary influences. Hence I have no argument with Sreeram ji's authentic observations. Going further...Sri K. N. Rao says in addition to other attributes... " that charity one does with money and gifts are also to be seen from the second house. " .... So if LL is placed in 2H, may be native is prone to extend her/his hand to charity, provided other planets do not obstruct but only support such action. blessings Renu , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > The variation to the prediction based on the LL in various houses, undergo a > change or modifications, based on the planets constituting the Lagna Lord, > ownership of houses, Sign in which it is placed. Will use this example in > the discussions later. Kindly mention the Lagna Signs of the quoted > example. Is it Cancer or Sagattarius or Pisces ?? > > With regards, > Sreeram srinivas > > > -owner > [-owner ] On Behalf Of renunw > Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:51 AM > -owner > Re: Bhavat_Bhavam & LL Placements > > Dear Sreeram ji, > > Thanks for an interesting posting...especially taking houses in pairs and > sharing your research knowledge with others. > > Since your observations are based on real horoscopes and real people ...I > would say that I cannot agree with the following: > > " LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen well > off people in their 70's worrying about their properties, inspite of > dividing the property during their time,.... " > > In a real life case, husband and wife both have thier LLs in 2H but never > ever keep anything for themselves. Instead everything is distributed not > only among their children but among others too! Can these natives be called > money minded? Sure, other planetary placements may have an explanation to > this exception to your observation. May be you have a better explanation... > > But a special feature in this couple is that they are 1st cousins if that > has to do anything with LL placed in 2H. > > blessings > > Renu > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Hare rama krishna , om namo narayanaya, dear renu ji. yes i must admit that all scriptures and religious books addreessing man and always say he will do this or he will enjoy this effect and even kerala books maitains that the raja yogas of wife will be enjoyed by the husband and in matchting kerala parents esp asked me is this girl is lucky ,or will she bring more laxmi like this . Off course it was reflecting the period we were going tru . so i think and from your post i can idetify your own versions or your experience tru charts ,u got some thin to say to us -can u share with us . I want a womans perspectiv on reading if u hav any experince and pls help us to speed up our search which can be suitable to modern era . so i invite u to contribute your views, reserches and finding from a womans point of view we will be whole heartly accepting and try to analyse your finding. regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , "renunw" <renunw wrote:>> LL in 2H:> > When LL is placed in 2H and if it has no other single relationship > or commitment with/to other planets/houses, naturally the native > will tend to keep all one's wealth to oneself, and.. 'money > mindedness' is valid. LL in the house of earnings etc.... will make > the native wonder what to do with all one's property and earnings. > The native [LL] surrounded by so much wealth with no other being > [other planetary influences] to claim all that wealth will naturally > wonder and worry about it. Sreeram ji specifically mentions that > many rich people he knows has this problem. So it is essential that > other planetry placements in the horsocope promises all that riches. > > On the other hand if the same condition prevails in a very poor > native, she/he [mind you ..never forget the female species of humans > which everyone seems to be forgetting in this forum], may wonder and > worry about earning money all the time...once again agreeing with > Sreeram ji's observation ..."money mindedness"..> > Then the picture may change dramatically or mildly depending on > other planetary influences.> > Hence I have no argument with Sreeram ji's authentic observations. > > Going further...Sri K. N. Rao says in addition to other > attributes..."that charity one does with money and gifts are also to > be seen from the second house."....> > So if LL is placed in 2H, may be native is prone to extend her/his > hand to charity, provided other planets do not obstruct but only > support such action.> > blessings> > Renu> > > > > > > , "sreeram srinivas" > sreeram64@ wrote:> >> > The variation to the prediction based on the LL in various houses, > undergo a> > change or modifications, based on the planets constituting the > Lagna Lord,> > ownership of houses, Sign in which it is placed. Will use this > example in> > the discussions later. Kindly mention the Lagna Signs of the > quoted> > example. Is it Cancer or Sagattarius or Pisces ??> > > > With regards,> > Sreeram srinivas > > > > > > -owner > > [-owner ] On Behalf > Of renunw> > Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:51 AM> > -owner > > Re: Bhavat_Bhavam & LL Placements> > > > Dear Sreeram ji,> > > > Thanks for an interesting posting...especially taking houses in > pairs and> > sharing your research knowledge with others.> > > > Since your observations are based on real horoscopes and real > people ...I> > would say that I cannot agree with the following:> > > > "LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen well > > off people in their 70's worrying about their properties, inspite > of> > dividing the property during their time,...."> > > > In a real life case, husband and wife both have thier LLs in 2H > but never> > ever keep anything for themselves. Instead everything is > distributed not> > only among their children but among others too! Can these natives > be called> > money minded? Sure, other planetary placements may have an > explanation to> > this exception to your observation. May be you have a better > explanation...> > > > But a special feature in this couple is that they are 1st cousins > if that> > has to do anything with LL placed in 2H.> > > > blessings> > > > Renu> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Renu ji and Sunil ji, Yes, that is very good suggestion! ==> > so i invite u to contribute your views, researches and finding > from a womans point of view we will be whole heartly accepting > and try to analyse your finding. <== Even if Renu ji could modify the views regards man's horoscope presented here using a women's terminology (Using 'her' instead of 'his'; Speaking about 'Husband' instead of wife and so on) and perspective; and then presenting it - for the benefit of all of us; it would be great! Renu ji, We really need a astrology book for women - based on the ancient 7-fold perspective. Note: Apart from posting her perspectives, I would request Renu ji to prepare a pdf file on the same and upload it on the files section for future reference. Love, Sreenadh , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > Hare rama krishna , > > om namo narayanaya, > > dear renu ji. > > yes i must admit that all scriptures and religious books > addreessing man and always say he will do this or he will enjoy this > effect and even kerala books maitains that the raja yogas of wife will > be enjoyed by the husband and in matchting kerala parents esp asked me > is this girl is lucky ,or will she bring more laxmi like this . > > Off course it was reflecting the period we were going tru . > > so i think and from your post i can idetify your own versions or > your experience tru charts ,u got some thin to say to us -can u share > with us . > > I want a womans perspectiv on reading if u hav any experince and pls > help us to speed up our search which can be suitable to modern era . > > so i invite u to contribute your views, reserches and finding from a > womans point of view we will be whole heartly accepting and try to > analyse your finding. > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > wrote: > > > > LL in 2H: > > > > When LL is placed in 2H and if it has no other single relationship > > or commitment with/to other planets/houses, naturally the native > > will tend to keep all one's wealth to oneself, and.. 'money > > mindedness' is valid. LL in the house of earnings etc.... will make > > the native wonder what to do with all one's property and earnings. > > The native [LL] surrounded by so much wealth with no other being > > [other planetary influences] to claim all that wealth will naturally > > wonder and worry about it. Sreeram ji specifically mentions that > > many rich people he knows has this problem. So it is essential that > > other planetry placements in the horsocope promises all that riches. > > > > On the other hand if the same condition prevails in a very poor > > native, she/he [mind you ..never forget the female species of humans > > which everyone seems to be forgetting in this forum], may wonder and > > worry about earning money all the time...once again agreeing with > > Sreeram ji's observation ... " money mindedness " .. > > > > Then the picture may change dramatically or mildly depending on > > other planetary influences. > > > > Hence I have no argument with Sreeram ji's authentic observations. > > > > Going further...Sri K. N. Rao says in addition to other > > attributes... " that charity one does with money and gifts are also to > > be seen from the second house. " .... > > > > So if LL is placed in 2H, may be native is prone to extend her/his > > hand to charity, provided other planets do not obstruct but only > > support such action. > > > > blessings > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sreeram srinivas " > > sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > The variation to the prediction based on the LL in various houses, > > undergo a > > > change or modifications, based on the planets constituting the > > Lagna Lord, > > > ownership of houses, Sign in which it is placed. Will use this > > example in > > > the discussions later. Kindly mention the Lagna Signs of the > > quoted > > > example. Is it Cancer or Sagattarius or Pisces ?? > > > > > > With regards, > > > Sreeram srinivas > > > > > > > > > -owner > > > [-owner ] On Behalf > > Of renunw > > > Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:51 AM > > > -owner > > > Re: Bhavat_Bhavam & LL Placements > > > > > > Dear Sreeram ji, > > > > > > Thanks for an interesting posting...especially taking houses in > > pairs and > > > sharing your research knowledge with others. > > > > > > Since your observations are based on real horoscopes and real > > people ...I > > > would say that I cannot agree with the following: > > > > > > " LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen well > > > off people in their 70's worrying about their properties, inspite > > of > > > dividing the property during their time,.... " > > > > > > In a real life case, husband and wife both have thier LLs in 2H > > but never > > > ever keep anything for themselves. Instead everything is > > distributed not > > > only among their children but among others too! Can these natives > > be called > > > money minded? Sure, other planetary placements may have an > > explanation to > > > this exception to your observation. May be you have a better > > explanation... > > > > > > But a special feature in this couple is that they are 1st cousins > > if that > > > has to do anything with LL placed in 2H. > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Sunil ji, I greatly appreciate your realization on 'gender discrimination',if that is what you meant. The question asked by boy's parents when matching horoscopes should be reversed. In fact marriage is a kind of a new life for an unspoilt, pure, innocent girl...[there may be exceptions]... The bride's parents should ask whether the boy's horoscope would assure THE HAPPINESS OF THE GIRL. Pancha Maha Purusha Yoga, then placement of LL in particular houses BOAST of husband enjoying extra marital relationships. [That is the idea I got reading previous postings...if I am wrong ..I do apologize]... I do not see anything to boast about that. There is nothing good about that at least not in the modern world. On the other hand if such a combination is present in the wife's horoscope, would any 'man' in all you men approve such a thing? You will lable her as an immoral woman! [i would rather not use any other word here, being a public forum] I will be glad to share any knowledge I have with this forum as and when it is relevant....And thanks for your invitaiton Sunil ji.Yet, I am only a novice and enjoy learning from good and interesting postings. I will try my best to join the discussions if I feel that my postings are of any use or where I need to clarify any doubt. Thanks once again! blessings Renu , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > Hare rama krishna , > > om namo narayanaya, > > dear renu ji. > > yes i must admit that all scriptures and religious books > addreessing man and always say he will do this or he will enjoy this > effect and even kerala books maitains that the raja yogas of wife will > be enjoyed by the husband and in matchting kerala parents esp asked me > is this girl is lucky ,or will she bring more laxmi like this . > > Off course it was reflecting the period we were going tru . > > so i think and from your post i can idetify your own versions or > your experience tru charts ,u got some thin to say to us -can u share > with us . > > I want a womans perspectiv on reading if u hav any experince and pls > help us to speed up our search which can be suitable to modern era . > > so i invite u to contribute your views, reserches and finding from a > womans point of view we will be whole heartly accepting and try to > analyse your finding. > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > wrote: > > > > LL in 2H: > > > > When LL is placed in 2H and if it has no other single relationship > > or commitment with/to other planets/houses, naturally the native > > will tend to keep all one's wealth to oneself, and.. 'money > > mindedness' is valid. LL in the house of earnings etc.... will make > > the native wonder what to do with all one's property and earnings. > > The native [LL] surrounded by so much wealth with no other being > > [other planetary influences] to claim all that wealth will naturally > > wonder and worry about it. Sreeram ji specifically mentions that > > many rich people he knows has this problem. So it is essential that > > other planetry placements in the horsocope promises all that riches. > > > > On the other hand if the same condition prevails in a very poor > > native, she/he [mind you ..never forget the female species of humans > > which everyone seems to be forgetting in this forum], may wonder and > > worry about earning money all the time...once again agreeing with > > Sreeram ji's observation ... " money mindedness " .. > > > > Then the picture may change dramatically or mildly depending on > > other planetary influences. > > > > Hence I have no argument with Sreeram ji's authentic observations. > > > > Going further...Sri K. N. Rao says in addition to other > > attributes... " that charity one does with money and gifts are also to > > be seen from the second house. " .... > > > > So if LL is placed in 2H, may be native is prone to extend her/his > > hand to charity, provided other planets do not obstruct but only > > support such action. > > > > blessings > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sreeram srinivas " > > sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > The variation to the prediction based on the LL in various houses, > > undergo a > > > change or modifications, based on the planets constituting the > > Lagna Lord, > > > ownership of houses, Sign in which it is placed. Will use this > > example in > > > the discussions later. Kindly mention the Lagna Signs of the > > quoted > > > example. Is it Cancer or Sagattarius or Pisces ?? > > > > > > With regards, > > > Sreeram srinivas > > > > > > > > > -owner > > > [-owner ] On Behalf > > Of renunw > > > Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:51 AM > > > -owner > > > Re: Bhavat_Bhavam & LL Placements > > > > > > Dear Sreeram ji, > > > > > > Thanks for an interesting posting...especially taking houses in > > pairs and > > > sharing your research knowledge with others. > > > > > > Since your observations are based on real horoscopes and real > > people ...I > > > would say that I cannot agree with the following: > > > > > > " LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen well > > > off people in their 70's worrying about their properties, inspite > > of > > > dividing the property during their time,.... " > > > > > > In a real life case, husband and wife both have thier LLs in 2H > > but never > > > ever keep anything for themselves. Instead everything is > > distributed not > > > only among their children but among others too! Can these natives > > be called > > > money minded? Sure, other planetary placements may have an > > explanation to > > > this exception to your observation. May be you have a better > > explanation... > > > > > > But a special feature in this couple is that they are 1st cousins > > if that > > > has to do anything with LL placed in 2H. > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Sreenadh ji, Thanks for the suggestion and I greatly appreciate it. I am a novice to this field... learining a lot from another prominent and generous member of this group....but I will try my best. I would not use women's terminology but common terminology since I do now want to discriminate men either. blessings Renu , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Renu ji and Sunil ji, > Yes, that is very good suggestion! > ==> > > so i invite u to contribute your views, researches and finding > > from a womans point of view we will be whole heartly accepting > > and try to analyse your finding. > <== > Even if Renu ji could modify the views regards man's horoscope > presented here using a women's terminology (Using 'her' instead > of 'his'; Speaking about 'Husband' instead of wife and so on) and > perspective; and then presenting it - for the benefit of all of us; > it would be great! > Renu ji, We really need a astrology book for women - based on the > ancient 7-fold perspective. > Note: Apart from posting her perspectives, I would request Renu ji > to prepare a pdf file on the same and upload it on the files section > for future reference. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " sunil nair " > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > Hare rama krishna , > > > > om namo narayanaya, > > > > dear renu ji. > > > > yes i must admit that all scriptures and religious books > > addreessing man and always say he will do this or he will enjoy > this > > effect and even kerala books maitains that the raja yogas of wife > will > > be enjoyed by the husband and in matchting kerala parents esp asked > me > > is this girl is lucky ,or will she bring more laxmi like this . > > > > Off course it was reflecting the period we were going tru . > > > > so i think and from your post i can idetify your own versions > or > > your experience tru charts ,u got some thin to say to us -can u > share > > with us . > > > > I want a womans perspectiv on reading if u hav any experince and > pls > > help us to speed up our search which can be suitable to modern era . > > > > so i invite u to contribute your views, reserches and finding > from a > > womans point of view we will be whole heartly accepting and try to > > analyse your finding. > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > > wrote: > > > > > > LL in 2H: > > > > > > When LL is placed in 2H and if it has no other single relationship > > > or commitment with/to other planets/houses, naturally the native > > > will tend to keep all one's wealth to oneself, and.. 'money > > > mindedness' is valid. LL in the house of earnings etc.... will > make > > > the native wonder what to do with all one's property and earnings. > > > The native [LL] surrounded by so much wealth with no other being > > > [other planetary influences] to claim all that wealth will > naturally > > > wonder and worry about it. Sreeram ji specifically mentions that > > > many rich people he knows has this problem. So it is essential > that > > > other planetry placements in the horsocope promises all that > riches. > > > > > > On the other hand if the same condition prevails in a very poor > > > native, she/he [mind you ..never forget the female species of > humans > > > which everyone seems to be forgetting in this forum], may wonder > and > > > worry about earning money all the time...once again agreeing with > > > Sreeram ji's observation ... " money mindedness " .. > > > > > > Then the picture may change dramatically or mildly depending on > > > other planetary influences. > > > > > > Hence I have no argument with Sreeram ji's authentic observations. > > > > > > Going further...Sri K. N. Rao says in addition to other > > > attributes... " that charity one does with money and gifts are also > to > > > be seen from the second house. " .... > > > > > > So if LL is placed in 2H, may be native is prone to extend her/his > > > hand to charity, provided other planets do not obstruct but only > > > support such action. > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sreeram > srinivas " > > > sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > > > The variation to the prediction based on the LL in various > houses, > > > undergo a > > > > change or modifications, based on the planets constituting the > > > Lagna Lord, > > > > ownership of houses, Sign in which it is placed. Will use this > > > example in > > > > the discussions later. Kindly mention the Lagna Signs of the > > > quoted > > > > example. Is it Cancer or Sagattarius or Pisces ?? > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > Sreeram srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > -owner > > > > [-owner ] On > Behalf > > > Of renunw > > > > Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:51 AM > > > > -owner > > > > Re: Bhavat_Bhavam & LL Placements > > > > > > > > Dear Sreeram ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for an interesting posting...especially taking houses in > > > pairs and > > > > sharing your research knowledge with others. > > > > > > > > Since your observations are based on real horoscopes and real > > > people ...I > > > > would say that I cannot agree with the following: > > > > > > > > " LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen well > > > > off people in their 70's worrying about their properties, > inspite > > > of > > > > dividing the property during their time,.... " > > > > > > > > In a real life case, husband and wife both have thier LLs in 2H > > > but never > > > > ever keep anything for themselves. Instead everything is > > > distributed not > > > > only among their children but among others too! Can these > natives > > > be called > > > > money minded? Sure, other planetary placements may have an > > > explanation to > > > > this exception to your observation. May be you have a better > > > explanation... > > > > > > > > But a special feature in this couple is that they are 1st > cousins > > > if that > > > > has to do anything with LL placed in 2H. > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Renu ji, ==> > I would not use women's terminology but common terminology since I > do now want to discriminate men either. <== That is very difficult - because our language it self is not gender nutral. I tried it failed - and I think you too will. If we try that then our sentences will become something like " It is good for her/his wife/husband if 7th house from Lagna is aspected by benefics " - i.e truly unreadable... Notice that even the word " Native " as a male connotation - it seems that even the language is contaminated with 'male nature'. The best resort is to use or create a 'female terminology and perspective in writing' itself that to resort to the mist of 'common terminology' - which is neither male nor female; such a terminology will reflect the sensitivity of neither me nor you. We can not use a language that is not ours, or which does not reflect us. It is good to have men as men and women and women and that only complete the whole - like Siva- Sakti or Yin-Yang. We man writes his soul and emotions should get reflected in that and when women writes so does her. Love, Sreenadh , " renunw " <renunw wrote: > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > Thanks for the suggestion and I greatly appreciate it. I am a novice > to this field... learining a lot from another prominent and generous > member of this group....but I will try my best. > > I would not use women's terminology but common terminology since I > do now want to discriminate men either. > > blessings > > Renu > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Renu ji and Sunil ji, > > Yes, that is very good suggestion! > > ==> > > > so i invite u to contribute your views, researches and finding > > > from a womans point of view we will be whole heartly accepting > > > and try to analyse your finding. > > <== > > Even if Renu ji could modify the views regards man's horoscope > > presented here using a women's terminology (Using 'her' instead > > of 'his'; Speaking about 'Husband' instead of wife and so on) and > > perspective; and then presenting it - for the benefit of all of > us; > > it would be great! > > Renu ji, We really need a astrology book for women - based on the > > ancient 7-fold perspective. > > Note: Apart from posting her perspectives, I would request Renu > ji > > to prepare a pdf file on the same and upload it on the files > section > > for future reference. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > , " sunil nair " > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna , > > > > > > om namo narayanaya, > > > > > > dear renu ji. > > > > > > yes i must admit that all scriptures and religious books > > > addreessing man and always say he will do this or he will enjoy > > this > > > effect and even kerala books maitains that the raja yogas of > wife > > will > > > be enjoyed by the husband and in matchting kerala parents esp > asked > > me > > > is this girl is lucky ,or will she bring more laxmi like this . > > > > > > Off course it was reflecting the period we were going tru . > > > > > > so i think and from your post i can idetify your own > versions > > or > > > your experience tru charts ,u got some thin to say to us -can u > > share > > > with us . > > > > > > I want a womans perspectiv on reading if u hav any experince > and > > pls > > > help us to speed up our search which can be suitable to modern > era . > > > > > > so i invite u to contribute your views, reserches and finding > > from a > > > womans point of view we will be whole heartly accepting and try > to > > > analyse your finding. > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " renunw " > <renunw@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > LL in 2H: > > > > > > > > When LL is placed in 2H and if it has no other single > relationship > > > > or commitment with/to other planets/houses, naturally the > native > > > > will tend to keep all one's wealth to oneself, and.. 'money > > > > mindedness' is valid. LL in the house of earnings etc.... will > > make > > > > the native wonder what to do with all one's property and > earnings. > > > > The native [LL] surrounded by so much wealth with no other > being > > > > [other planetary influences] to claim all that wealth will > > naturally > > > > wonder and worry about it. Sreeram ji specifically mentions > that > > > > many rich people he knows has this problem. So it is essential > > that > > > > other planetry placements in the horsocope promises all that > > riches. > > > > > > > > On the other hand if the same condition prevails in a very poor > > > > native, she/he [mind you ..never forget the female species of > > humans > > > > which everyone seems to be forgetting in this forum], may > wonder > > and > > > > worry about earning money all the time...once again agreeing > with > > > > Sreeram ji's observation ... " money mindedness " .. > > > > > > > > Then the picture may change dramatically or mildly depending on > > > > other planetary influences. > > > > > > > > Hence I have no argument with Sreeram ji's authentic > observations. > > > > > > > > Going further...Sri K. N. Rao says in addition to other > > > > attributes... " that charity one does with money and gifts are > also > > to > > > > be seen from the second house. " .... > > > > > > > > So if LL is placed in 2H, may be native is prone to extend > her/his > > > > hand to charity, provided other planets do not obstruct but > only > > > > support such action. > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sreeram > > srinivas " > > > > sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The variation to the prediction based on the LL in various > > houses, > > > > undergo a > > > > > change or modifications, based on the planets constituting > the > > > > Lagna Lord, > > > > > ownership of houses, Sign in which it is placed. Will use > this > > > > example in > > > > > the discussions later. Kindly mention the Lagna Signs of the > > > > quoted > > > > > example. Is it Cancer or Sagattarius or Pisces ?? > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > Sreeram srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -owner > > > > > [-owner ] On > > Behalf > > > > Of renunw > > > > > Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:51 AM > > > > > -owner > > > > > Re: Bhavat_Bhavam & LL Placements > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreeram ji, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for an interesting posting...especially taking houses > in > > > > pairs and > > > > > sharing your research knowledge with others. > > > > > > > > > > Since your observations are based on real horoscopes and real > > > > people ...I > > > > > would say that I cannot agree with the following: > > > > > > > > > > " LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen well > > > > > off people in their 70's worrying about their properties, > > inspite > > > > of > > > > > dividing the property during their time,.... " > > > > > > > > > > In a real life case, husband and wife both have thier LLs in > 2H > > > > but never > > > > > ever keep anything for themselves. Instead everything is > > > > distributed not > > > > > only among their children but among others too! Can these > > natives > > > > be called > > > > > money minded? Sure, other planetary placements may have an > > > > explanation to > > > > > this exception to your observation. May be you have a better > > > > explanation... > > > > > > > > > > But a special feature in this couple is that they are 1st > > cousins > > > > if that > > > > > has to do anything with LL placed in 2H. > > > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Renu ji, ==> > The bride's parents should ask whether the boy's > horoscope would assure THE HAPPINESS OF THE GIRL. <== Actually IT IS SO. Horoscope matching follows a " women centric approach " in which the astrologer is trying to match the " Boys horoscope with that of the girls horoscope " in an effort to " ensure the happiness of the girl " in married life. The sages were sensitive to the issues and they wanted to bring back balance of society by " thinking for the girls; from the side of the girls " in horoscope matching. You will see it and feel it - if study horoscope matching in detail. The true astrologer doing compatibility checking is like a father who is trying to select a good husband for his daughter - we won't like our daughter to suffer, do we? ==> > Pancha Maha Purusha Yoga, then placement of LL in particular houses > BOAST of husband enjoying extra marital relationships. [That is the > idea I got reading previous postings...if I am wrong ..I do > apologize]... <== You are true. The said result attributed to that combination was true for ancient times, but certainly not suitable or appreciable for modern times. Multiple wives was a luxury in a time when women was treated like a commodity; but multiple wives or even sexual relationship with other women apart from wife, is just 'immoral act' as per current perspective where women enjoys equal status with man. Like freedom in manythings, 'freedom in sex' for both man and women can be argued, but nature sets its own limits with 'venereal diseases and aids'.. So it is better to be with in limits and make life beautiful with available resources for both of them. Love, Sreenadh , " renunw " <renunw wrote: > > Dear Sunil ji, > > I greatly appreciate your realization on 'gender discrimination',if > that is what you meant. The question asked by boy's parents when > matching horoscopes should be reversed. In fact marriage is a kind > of a new life for an unspoilt, pure, innocent girl...[there may be > exceptions]... The bride's parents should ask whether the boy's > horoscope would assure THE HAPPINESS OF THE GIRL. > > Pancha Maha Purusha Yoga, then placement of LL in particular houses > BOAST of husband enjoying extra marital relationships. [That is the > idea I got reading previous postings...if I am wrong ..I do > apologize]... I do not see anything to boast about that. There is > nothing good about that at least not in the modern world. On the > other hand if such a combination is present in the wife's horoscope, > would any 'man' in all you men approve such a thing? You will lable > her as an immoral woman! [i would rather not use any other word > here, being a public forum] > > I will be glad to share any knowledge I have with this forum as and > when it is relevant....And thanks for your invitaiton Sunil ji.Yet, > I am only a novice and enjoy learning from good and interesting > postings. I will try my best to join the discussions if I feel that > my postings are of any use or where I need to clarify any doubt. > Thanks once again! > > blessings > > Renu > > , " sunil nair " > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > Hare rama krishna , > > > > om namo narayanaya, > > > > dear renu ji. > > > > yes i must admit that all scriptures and religious books > > addreessing man and always say he will do this or he will enjoy > this > > effect and even kerala books maitains that the raja yogas of wife > will > > be enjoyed by the husband and in matchting kerala parents esp > asked me > > is this girl is lucky ,or will she bring more laxmi like this . > > > > Off course it was reflecting the period we were going tru . > > > > so i think and from your post i can idetify your own versions > or > > your experience tru charts ,u got some thin to say to us -can u > share > > with us . > > > > I want a womans perspectiv on reading if u hav any experince and > pls > > help us to speed up our search which can be suitable to modern > era . > > > > so i invite u to contribute your views, reserches and finding > from a > > womans point of view we will be whole heartly accepting and try to > > analyse your finding. > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > > wrote: > > > > > > LL in 2H: > > > > > > When LL is placed in 2H and if it has no other single > relationship > > > or commitment with/to other planets/houses, naturally the native > > > will tend to keep all one's wealth to oneself, and.. 'money > > > mindedness' is valid. LL in the house of earnings etc.... will > make > > > the native wonder what to do with all one's property and > earnings. > > > The native [LL] surrounded by so much wealth with no other being > > > [other planetary influences] to claim all that wealth will > naturally > > > wonder and worry about it. Sreeram ji specifically mentions that > > > many rich people he knows has this problem. So it is essential > that > > > other planetry placements in the horsocope promises all that > riches. > > > > > > On the other hand if the same condition prevails in a very poor > > > native, she/he [mind you ..never forget the female species of > humans > > > which everyone seems to be forgetting in this forum], may wonder > and > > > worry about earning money all the time...once again agreeing with > > > Sreeram ji's observation ... " money mindedness " .. > > > > > > Then the picture may change dramatically or mildly depending on > > > other planetary influences. > > > > > > Hence I have no argument with Sreeram ji's authentic > observations. > > > > > > Going further...Sri K. N. Rao says in addition to other > > > attributes... " that charity one does with money and gifts are > also to > > > be seen from the second house. " .... > > > > > > So if LL is placed in 2H, may be native is prone to extend > her/his > > > hand to charity, provided other planets do not obstruct but only > > > support such action. > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sreeram > srinivas " > > > sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > > > The variation to the prediction based on the LL in various > houses, > > > undergo a > > > > change or modifications, based on the planets constituting the > > > Lagna Lord, > > > > ownership of houses, Sign in which it is placed. Will use this > > > example in > > > > the discussions later. Kindly mention the Lagna Signs of the > > > quoted > > > > example. Is it Cancer or Sagattarius or Pisces ?? > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > Sreeram srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > -owner > > > > [-owner ] On > Behalf > > > Of renunw > > > > Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:51 AM > > > > -owner > > > > Re: Bhavat_Bhavam & LL Placements > > > > > > > > Dear Sreeram ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for an interesting posting...especially taking houses in > > > pairs and > > > > sharing your research knowledge with others. > > > > > > > > Since your observations are based on real horoscopes and real > > > people ...I > > > > would say that I cannot agree with the following: > > > > > > > > " LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen well > > > > off people in their 70's worrying about their properties, > inspite > > > of > > > > dividing the property during their time,.... " > > > > > > > > In a real life case, husband and wife both have thier LLs in 2H > > > but never > > > > ever keep anything for themselves. Instead everything is > > > distributed not > > > > only among their children but among others too! Can these > natives > > > be called > > > > money minded? Sure, other planetary placements may have an > > > explanation to > > > > this exception to your observation. May be you have a better > > > explanation... > > > > > > > > But a special feature in this couple is that they are 1st > cousins > > > if that > > > > has to do anything with LL placed in 2H. > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Sreenadh ji, " That is very difficult - because our language it self is not gender nutral. I tried it failed - and I think you too will. If we try that then our sentences will become something like " It is good for her/his wife/husband if 7th house from Lagna is aspected by benefics " - i.e truly unreadable... " Instead of her/his etc. there is one option we can do, that is to use " one " ... " one's partner " ...etc. It denotes a common terminology. Yet, as you say it may destroy the sensitivity of the contents. I do have to agree with... " that to resort to the mist of 'common terminology' - which is neither male nor female; such a terminology will reflect the sensitivity of neither me nor you. We can not use a language that is not ours, or which does not reflect us. " It is good to have men as men and women and women and that only complete the whole - like Siva- Sakti or Yin-Yang. We man writes his soul and emotions should get reflected in that and when women writes so does her. " True...If men are not men and women are not women, the world will not go ahead. I agree. But astrology like religion is common to every human being irrespective of the gender. If our ancient seers used a common terminology when interpreting an astrological concept we would have got used to it by now. Nevertheless I think I am dragging on something unimportant. " Those who mistake the unessential to be essential and the essential to be unessential, dwelling in wrong thoughts, never arrive at the essential " -Dhammapada Hence let me get back to our astrological discussions and forget gender discrimination for the time being. blessings Renu , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Renu ji, > ==> > > I would not use women's terminology but common terminology since I > > do now want to discriminate men either. > <== > That is very difficult - because our language it self is not gender > nutral. I tried it failed - and I think you too will. If we try > that then our sentences will become something like " It is good for > her/his wife/husband if 7th house from Lagna is aspected by > benefics " - i.e truly unreadable... > Notice that even the word " Native " as a male connotation - it seems > that even the language is contaminated with 'male nature'. The best > resort is to use or create a 'female terminology and perspective in > writing' itself that to resort to the mist of 'common terminology' - > which is neither male nor female; such a terminology will reflect the > sensitivity of neither me nor you. We can not use a language that is > not ours, or which does not reflect us. It is good to have men as men > and women and women and that only complete the whole - like Siva- > Sakti or Yin-Yang. We man writes his soul and emotions should > get reflected in that and when women writes so does her. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " renunw " > <renunw@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > Thanks for the suggestion and I greatly appreciate it. I am a > novice > > to this field... learining a lot from another prominent and > generous > > member of this group....but I will try my best. > > > > I would not use women's terminology but common terminology since I > > do now want to discriminate men either. > > > > blessings > > > > Renu > > , " Sreenadh " > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Renu ji and Sunil ji, > > > Yes, that is very good suggestion! > > > ==> > > > > so i invite u to contribute your views, researches and > finding > > > > from a womans point of view we will be whole heartly > accepting > > > > and try to analyse your finding. > > > <== > > > Even if Renu ji could modify the views regards man's horoscope > > > presented here using a women's terminology (Using 'her' instead > > > of 'his'; Speaking about 'Husband' instead of wife and so on) and > > > perspective; and then presenting it - for the benefit of all of > > us; > > > it would be great! > > > Renu ji, We really need a astrology book for women - based on > the > > > ancient 7-fold perspective. > > > Note: Apart from posting her perspectives, I would request Renu > > ji > > > to prepare a pdf file on the same and upload it on the files > > section > > > for future reference. > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna , > > > > > > > > om namo narayanaya, > > > > > > > > dear renu ji. > > > > > > > > yes i must admit that all scriptures and religious > books > > > > addreessing man and always say he will do this or he will > enjoy > > > this > > > > effect and even kerala books maitains that the raja yogas of > > wife > > > will > > > > be enjoyed by the husband and in matchting kerala parents esp > > asked > > > me > > > > is this girl is lucky ,or will she bring more laxmi like this . > > > > > > > > Off course it was reflecting the period we were going tru . > > > > > > > > so i think and from your post i can idetify your own > > versions > > > or > > > > your experience tru charts ,u got some thin to say to us - can u > > > share > > > > with us . > > > > > > > > I want a womans perspectiv on reading if u hav any experince > > and > > > pls > > > > help us to speed up our search which can be suitable to modern > > era . > > > > > > > > so i invite u to contribute your views, reserches and finding > > > from a > > > > womans point of view we will be whole heartly accepting and > try > > to > > > > analyse your finding. > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " renunw " > > <renunw@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > LL in 2H: > > > > > > > > > > When LL is placed in 2H and if it has no other single > > relationship > > > > > or commitment with/to other planets/houses, naturally the > > native > > > > > will tend to keep all one's wealth to oneself, and.. 'money > > > > > mindedness' is valid. LL in the house of earnings etc.... > will > > > make > > > > > the native wonder what to do with all one's property and > > earnings. > > > > > The native [LL] surrounded by so much wealth with no other > > being > > > > > [other planetary influences] to claim all that wealth will > > > naturally > > > > > wonder and worry about it. Sreeram ji specifically mentions > > that > > > > > many rich people he knows has this problem. So it is > essential > > > that > > > > > other planetry placements in the horsocope promises all that > > > riches. > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand if the same condition prevails in a very > poor > > > > > native, she/he [mind you ..never forget the female species of > > > humans > > > > > which everyone seems to be forgetting in this forum], may > > wonder > > > and > > > > > worry about earning money all the time...once again agreeing > > with > > > > > Sreeram ji's observation ... " money mindedness " .. > > > > > > > > > > Then the picture may change dramatically or mildly depending > on > > > > > other planetary influences. > > > > > > > > > > Hence I have no argument with Sreeram ji's authentic > > observations. > > > > > > > > > > Going further...Sri K. N. Rao says in addition to other > > > > > attributes... " that charity one does with money and gifts are > > also > > > to > > > > > be seen from the second house. " .... > > > > > > > > > > So if LL is placed in 2H, may be native is prone to extend > > her/his > > > > > hand to charity, provided other planets do not obstruct but > > only > > > > > support such action. > > > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sreeram > > > srinivas " > > > > > sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The variation to the prediction based on the LL in various > > > houses, > > > > > undergo a > > > > > > change or modifications, based on the planets constituting > > the > > > > > Lagna Lord, > > > > > > ownership of houses, Sign in which it is placed. Will use > > this > > > > > example in > > > > > > the discussions later. Kindly mention the Lagna Signs of the > > > > > quoted > > > > > > example. Is it Cancer or Sagattarius or Pisces ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > Sreeram srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -owner > > > > > > [-owner ] On > > > Behalf > > > > > Of renunw > > > > > > Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:51 AM > > > > > > -owner > > > > > > Re: Bhavat_Bhavam & LL Placements > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreeram ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for an interesting posting...especially taking > houses > > in > > > > > pairs and > > > > > > sharing your research knowledge with others. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since your observations are based on real horoscopes and > real > > > > > people ...I > > > > > > would say that I cannot agree with the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > " LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen well > > > > > > off people in their 70's worrying about their properties, > > > inspite > > > > > of > > > > > > dividing the property during their time,.... " > > > > > > > > > > > > In a real life case, husband and wife both have thier LLs > in > > 2H > > > > > but never > > > > > > ever keep anything for themselves. Instead everything is > > > > > distributed not > > > > > > only among their children but among others too! Can these > > > natives > > > > > be called > > > > > > money minded? Sure, other planetary placements may have an > > > > > explanation to > > > > > > this exception to your observation. May be you have a better > > > > > explanation... > > > > > > > > > > > > But a special feature in this couple is that they are 1st > > > cousins > > > > > if that > > > > > > has to do anything with LL placed in 2H. > > > > > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Sreenadh ji, I am truly glad to learn the following. Thank you... --- > Actually IT IS SO. Horoscope matching follows a " women centric > approach " in which the astrologer is trying to match the " Boys > horoscope with that of the girls horoscope " in an effort to " ensure > the happiness of the girl " in married life. The sages were sensitive > to the issues and they wanted to bring back balance of society > by " thinking for the girls; from the side of the girls " in horoscope > matching. You will see it and feel it - if study horoscope matching > in detail. The true astrologer doing compatibility checking is like a > father who is trying to select a good husband for his daughter - we > won't like our daughter to suffer, do we? Neither do we want our daughters nor our sons to suffer. blessings Renu > > Dear Sunil ji, > > > > I greatly appreciate your realization on 'gender discrimination',if > > that is what you meant. The question asked by boy's parents when > > matching horoscopes should be reversed. In fact marriage is a kind > > of a new life for an unspoilt, pure, innocent girl...[there may be > > exceptions]... The bride's parents should ask whether the boy's > > horoscope would assure THE HAPPINESS OF THE GIRL. > > > > Pancha Maha Purusha Yoga, then placement of LL in particular houses > > BOAST of husband enjoying extra marital relationships. [That is the > > idea I got reading previous postings...if I am wrong ..I do > > apologize]... I do not see anything to boast about that. There is > > nothing good about that at least not in the modern world. On the > > other hand if such a combination is present in the wife's > horoscope, > > would any 'man' in all you men approve such a thing? You will lable > > her as an immoral woman! [i would rather not use any other word > > here, being a public forum] > > > > I will be glad to share any knowledge I have with this forum as > and > > when it is relevant....And thanks for your invitaiton Sunil ji.Yet, > > I am only a novice and enjoy learning from good and interesting > > postings. I will try my best to join the discussions if I feel that > > my postings are of any use or where I need to clarify any doubt. > > Thanks once again! > > > > blessings > > > > Renu > > > > , " sunil nair " > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna , > > > > > > om namo narayanaya, > > > > > > dear renu ji. > > > > > > yes i must admit that all scriptures and religious books > > > addreessing man and always say he will do this or he will enjoy > > this > > > effect and even kerala books maitains that the raja yogas of wife > > will > > > be enjoyed by the husband and in matchting kerala parents esp > > asked me > > > is this girl is lucky ,or will she bring more laxmi like this . > > > > > > Off course it was reflecting the period we were going tru . > > > > > > so i think and from your post i can idetify your own > versions > > or > > > your experience tru charts ,u got some thin to say to us -can u > > share > > > with us . > > > > > > I want a womans perspectiv on reading if u hav any experince and > > pls > > > help us to speed up our search which can be suitable to modern > > era . > > > > > > so i invite u to contribute your views, reserches and finding > > from a > > > womans point of view we will be whole heartly accepting and try > to > > > analyse your finding. > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " renunw " > <renunw@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > LL in 2H: > > > > > > > > When LL is placed in 2H and if it has no other single > > relationship > > > > or commitment with/to other planets/houses, naturally the native > > > > will tend to keep all one's wealth to oneself, and.. 'money > > > > mindedness' is valid. LL in the house of earnings etc.... will > > make > > > > the native wonder what to do with all one's property and > > earnings. > > > > The native [LL] surrounded by so much wealth with no other being > > > > [other planetary influences] to claim all that wealth will > > naturally > > > > wonder and worry about it. Sreeram ji specifically mentions that > > > > many rich people he knows has this problem. So it is essential > > that > > > > other planetry placements in the horsocope promises all that > > riches. > > > > > > > > On the other hand if the same condition prevails in a very poor > > > > native, she/he [mind you ..never forget the female species of > > humans > > > > which everyone seems to be forgetting in this forum], may > wonder > > and > > > > worry about earning money all the time...once again agreeing > with > > > > Sreeram ji's observation ... " money mindedness " .. > > > > > > > > Then the picture may change dramatically or mildly depending on > > > > other planetary influences. > > > > > > > > Hence I have no argument with Sreeram ji's authentic > > observations. > > > > > > > > Going further...Sri K. N. Rao says in addition to other > > > > attributes... " that charity one does with money and gifts are > > also to > > > > be seen from the second house. " .... > > > > > > > > So if LL is placed in 2H, may be native is prone to extend > > her/his > > > > hand to charity, provided other planets do not obstruct but only > > > > support such action. > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sreeram > > srinivas " > > > > sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The variation to the prediction based on the LL in various > > houses, > > > > undergo a > > > > > change or modifications, based on the planets constituting the > > > > Lagna Lord, > > > > > ownership of houses, Sign in which it is placed. Will use this > > > > example in > > > > > the discussions later. Kindly mention the Lagna Signs of the > > > > quoted > > > > > example. Is it Cancer or Sagattarius or Pisces ?? > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > Sreeram srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -owner > > > > > [-owner ] On > > Behalf > > > > Of renunw > > > > > Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:51 AM > > > > > -owner > > > > > Re: Bhavat_Bhavam & LL Placements > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreeram ji, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for an interesting posting...especially taking houses > in > > > > pairs and > > > > > sharing your research knowledge with others. > > > > > > > > > > Since your observations are based on real horoscopes and real > > > > people ...I > > > > > would say that I cannot agree with the following: > > > > > > > > > > " LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen well > > > > > off people in their 70's worrying about their properties, > > inspite > > > > of > > > > > dividing the property during their time,.... " > > > > > > > > > > In a real life case, husband and wife both have thier LLs in > 2H > > > > but never > > > > > ever keep anything for themselves. Instead everything is > > > > distributed not > > > > > only among their children but among others too! Can these > > natives > > > > be called > > > > > money minded? Sure, other planetary placements may have an > > > > explanation to > > > > > this exception to your observation. May be you have a better > > > > explanation... > > > > > > > > > > But a special feature in this couple is that they are 1st > > cousins > > > > if that > > > > > has to do anything with LL placed in 2H. > > > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Renu ji, ==> " Those who mistake the unessential to be essential and the essential to be unessential, dwelling in wrong thoughts, never arrive at the essential " -Dhammapada <== Beautiful!! Love, Sreenadh , " renunw " <renunw wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > " That is very difficult - because our language it self is not gender > nutral. I tried it failed - and I think you too will. If we try > that then our sentences will become something like " It is good for > her/his wife/husband if 7th house from Lagna is aspected by > benefics " - i.e truly unreadable... " > > Instead of her/his etc. there is one option we can do, that is to > use " one " ... " one's partner " ...etc. It denotes a common terminology. > Yet, as you say it may destroy the sensitivity of the contents. I do > have to agree with... > " that to resort to the mist of 'common terminology' - > which is neither male nor female; such a terminology will reflect the > sensitivity of neither me nor you. We can not use a language that is > not ours, or which does not reflect us. > > " It is good to have men as men > and women and women and that only complete the whole - like Siva- > Sakti or Yin-Yang. We man writes his soul and emotions should > get reflected in that and when women writes so does her. " > > True...If men are not men and women are not women, the world will > not go ahead. I agree. But astrology like religion is common to > every human being irrespective of the gender. If our ancient seers > used a common terminology when interpreting an astrological concept > we would have got used to it by now. > > Nevertheless I think I am dragging on something unimportant. > " Those who mistake the unessential to be essential and the essential > to be unessential, dwelling in wrong thoughts, never arrive at the > essential " -Dhammapada > > Hence let me get back to our astrological discussions and forget > gender discrimination for the time being. > > blessings > > Renu > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Renu ji, > > ==> > > > I would not use women's terminology but common terminology since > I > > > do now want to discriminate men either. > > <== > > That is very difficult - because our language it self is not > gender > > nutral. I tried it failed - and I think you too will. If we try > > that then our sentences will become something like " It is good for > > her/his wife/husband if 7th house from Lagna is aspected by > > benefics " - i.e truly unreadable... > > Notice that even the word " Native " as a male connotation - it > seems > > that even the language is contaminated with 'male nature'. The > best > > resort is to use or create a 'female terminology and perspective > in > > writing' itself that to resort to the mist of 'common > terminology' - > > which is neither male nor female; such a terminology will reflect > the > > sensitivity of neither me nor you. We can not use a language that > is > > not ours, or which does not reflect us. It is good to have men as > men > > and women and women and that only complete the whole - like Siva- > > Sakti or Yin-Yang. We man writes his soul and emotions should > > get reflected in that and when women writes so does her. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > , " renunw " > > <renunw@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > > > Thanks for the suggestion and I greatly appreciate it. I am a > > novice > > > to this field... learining a lot from another prominent and > > generous > > > member of this group....but I will try my best. > > > > > > I would not use women's terminology but common terminology since > I > > > do now want to discriminate men either. > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > Renu > > > , " Sreenadh " > > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Renu ji and Sunil ji, > > > > Yes, that is very good suggestion! > > > > ==> > > > > > so i invite u to contribute your views, researches and > > finding > > > > > from a womans point of view we will be whole heartly > > accepting > > > > > and try to analyse your finding. > > > > <== > > > > Even if Renu ji could modify the views regards man's > horoscope > > > > presented here using a women's terminology (Using 'her' > instead > > > > of 'his'; Speaking about 'Husband' instead of wife and so on) > and > > > > perspective; and then presenting it - for the benefit of all > of > > > us; > > > > it would be great! > > > > Renu ji, We really need a astrology book for women - based on > > the > > > > ancient 7-fold perspective. > > > > Note: Apart from posting her perspectives, I would request > Renu > > > ji > > > > to prepare a pdf file on the same and upload it on the files > > > section > > > > for future reference. > > > > Love, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna , > > > > > > > > > > om namo narayanaya, > > > > > > > > > > dear renu ji. > > > > > > > > > > yes i must admit that all scriptures and religious > > books > > > > > addreessing man and always say he will do this or he will > > enjoy > > > > this > > > > > effect and even kerala books maitains that the raja yogas of > > > wife > > > > will > > > > > be enjoyed by the husband and in matchting kerala parents > esp > > > asked > > > > me > > > > > is this girl is lucky ,or will she bring more laxmi like > this . > > > > > > > > > > Off course it was reflecting the period we were going > tru . > > > > > > > > > > so i think and from your post i can idetify your own > > > versions > > > > or > > > > > your experience tru charts ,u got some thin to say to us - > can u > > > > share > > > > > with us . > > > > > > > > > > I want a womans perspectiv on reading if u hav any > experince > > > and > > > > pls > > > > > help us to speed up our search which can be suitable to > modern > > > era . > > > > > > > > > > so i invite u to contribute your views, reserches and > finding > > > > from a > > > > > womans point of view we will be whole heartly accepting and > > try > > > to > > > > > analyse your finding. > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " renunw " > > > <renunw@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > LL in 2H: > > > > > > > > > > > > When LL is placed in 2H and if it has no other single > > > relationship > > > > > > or commitment with/to other planets/houses, naturally the > > > native > > > > > > will tend to keep all one's wealth to oneself, and.. 'money > > > > > > mindedness' is valid. LL in the house of earnings etc.... > > will > > > > make > > > > > > the native wonder what to do with all one's property and > > > earnings. > > > > > > The native [LL] surrounded by so much wealth with no other > > > being > > > > > > [other planetary influences] to claim all that wealth will > > > > naturally > > > > > > wonder and worry about it. Sreeram ji specifically > mentions > > > that > > > > > > many rich people he knows has this problem. So it is > > essential > > > > that > > > > > > other planetry placements in the horsocope promises all > that > > > > riches. > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand if the same condition prevails in a very > > poor > > > > > > native, she/he [mind you ..never forget the female species > of > > > > humans > > > > > > which everyone seems to be forgetting in this forum], may > > > wonder > > > > and > > > > > > worry about earning money all the time...once again > agreeing > > > with > > > > > > Sreeram ji's observation ... " money mindedness " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the picture may change dramatically or mildly > depending > > on > > > > > > other planetary influences. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence I have no argument with Sreeram ji's authentic > > > observations. > > > > > > > > > > > > Going further...Sri K. N. Rao says in addition to other > > > > > > attributes... " that charity one does with money and gifts > are > > > also > > > > to > > > > > > be seen from the second house. " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > So if LL is placed in 2H, may be native is prone to extend > > > her/his > > > > > > hand to charity, provided other planets do not obstruct > but > > > only > > > > > > support such action. > > > > > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sreeram > > > > srinivas " > > > > > > sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The variation to the prediction based on the LL in > various > > > > houses, > > > > > > undergo a > > > > > > > change or modifications, based on the planets > constituting > > > the > > > > > > Lagna Lord, > > > > > > > ownership of houses, Sign in which it is placed. Will > use > > > this > > > > > > example in > > > > > > > the discussions later. Kindly mention the Lagna Signs of > the > > > > > > quoted > > > > > > > example. Is it Cancer or Sagattarius or Pisces ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > Sreeram srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -owner > > > > > > > [-owner ] > On > > > > Behalf > > > > > > Of renunw > > > > > > > Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:51 AM > > > > > > > -owner > > > > > > > Re: Bhavat_Bhavam & LL Placements > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreeram ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for an interesting posting...especially taking > > houses > > > in > > > > > > pairs and > > > > > > > sharing your research knowledge with others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since your observations are based on real horoscopes and > > real > > > > > > people ...I > > > > > > > would say that I cannot agree with the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen well > > > > > > > off people in their 70's worrying about their > properties, > > > > inspite > > > > > > of > > > > > > > dividing the property during their time,.... " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a real life case, husband and wife both have thier > LLs > > in > > > 2H > > > > > > but never > > > > > > > ever keep anything for themselves. Instead everything is > > > > > > distributed not > > > > > > > only among their children but among others too! Can > these > > > > natives > > > > > > be called > > > > > > > money minded? Sure, other planetary placements may have > an > > > > > > explanation to > > > > > > > this exception to your observation. May be you have a > better > > > > > > explanation... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But a special feature in this couple is that they are > 1st > > > > cousins > > > > > > if that > > > > > > > has to do anything with LL placed in 2H. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 , "renunw" <renunw wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji,> > I am truly glad to learn the following. Thank you...> > --- > Actually IT IS SO. Horoscope matching follows a "women > centric > > approach" in which the astrologer is trying to match the "Boys > > horoscope with that of the girls horoscope" in an effort > to "ensure > > the happiness of the girl" in married life. The sages were > sensitive > > to the issues and they wanted to bring back balance of society > > by "thinking for the girls; from the side of the girls" in > horoscope > > matching. You will see it and feel it - if study horoscope > matching > > in detail. The true astrologer doing compatibility checking is > like a > > father who is trying to select a good husband for his daughter - > we > > won't like our daughter to suffer, do we?> > Neither do we want our daughters nor our sons to suffer. Lol...! Well said! I was taking a famine supportive perspective and you didn't supported me... But true - I agree to your statement.. > blessings> > Renu> > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji,> > > > > > I greatly appreciate your realization on 'gender > discrimination',if > > > that is what you meant. The question asked by boy's parents when > > > matching horoscopes should be reversed. In fact marriage is a > kind > > > of a new life for an unspoilt, pure, innocent girl...[there may > be > > > exceptions]... The bride's parents should ask whether the boy's > > > horoscope would assure THE HAPPINESS OF THE GIRL. > > > > > > Pancha Maha Purusha Yoga, then placement of LL in particular > houses > > > BOAST of husband enjoying extra marital relationships. [That is > the > > > idea I got reading previous postings...if I am wrong ..I do > > > apologize]... I do not see anything to boast about that. There > is > > > nothing good about that at least not in the modern world. On the > > > other hand if such a combination is present in the wife's > > horoscope, > > > would any 'man' in all you men approve such a thing? You will > lable > > > her as an immoral woman! [i would rather not use any other word > > > here, being a public forum]> > > > > > I will be glad to share any knowledge I have with this forum as > > and > > > when it is relevant....And thanks for your invitaiton Sunil > ji.Yet, > > > I am only a novice and enjoy learning from good and interesting > > > postings. I will try my best to join the discussions if I feel > that > > > my postings are of any use or where I need to clarify any doubt. > > > Thanks once again!> > > > > > blessings> > > > > > Renu> > > > > > , "sunil nair" > > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > > > > > > > om namo narayanaya,> > > > > > > > dear renu ji.> > > > > > > > yes i must admit that all scriptures and religious > books> > > > addreessing man and always say he will do this or he will > enjoy > > > this> > > > effect and even kerala books maitains that the raja yogas of > wife > > > will> > > > be enjoyed by the husband and in matchting kerala parents esp > > > asked me> > > > is this girl is lucky ,or will she bring more laxmi like this .> > > > > > > > Off course it was reflecting the period we were going tru .> > > > > > > > so i think and from your post i can idetify your own > > versions > > > or> > > > your experience tru charts ,u got some thin to say to us -can > u > > > share> > > > with us .> > > > > > > > I want a womans perspectiv on reading if u hav any experince > and > > > pls> > > > help us to speed up our search which can be suitable to modern > > > era .> > > > > > > > so i invite u to contribute your views, reserches and > finding > > > from a> > > > womans point of view we will be whole heartly accepting and > try > > to> > > > analyse your finding.> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "renunw" > > <renunw@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > LL in 2H:> > > > >> > > > > When LL is placed in 2H and if it has no other single > > > relationship> > > > > or commitment with/to other planets/houses, naturally the > native> > > > > will tend to keep all one's wealth to oneself, and.. 'money> > > > > mindedness' is valid. LL in the house of earnings etc.... > will > > > make> > > > > the native wonder what to do with all one's property and > > > earnings.> > > > > The native [LL] surrounded by so much wealth with no other > being> > > > > [other planetary influences] to claim all that wealth will > > > naturally> > > > > wonder and worry about it. Sreeram ji specifically mentions > that> > > > > many rich people he knows has this problem. So it is > essential > > > that> > > > > other planetry placements in the horsocope promises all that > > > riches.> > > > >> > > > > On the other hand if the same condition prevails in a very > poor> > > > > native, she/he [mind you ..never forget the female species > of > > > humans> > > > > which everyone seems to be forgetting in this forum], may > > wonder > > > and> > > > > worry about earning money all the time...once again agreeing > > with> > > > > Sreeram ji's observation ..."money mindedness"..> > > > >> > > > > Then the picture may change dramatically or mildly depending > on> > > > > other planetary influences.> > > > >> > > > > Hence I have no argument with Sreeram ji's authentic > > > observations.> > > > >> > > > > Going further...Sri K. N. Rao says in addition to other> > > > > attributes..."that charity one does with money and gifts are > > > also to> > > > > be seen from the second house."....> > > > >> > > > > So if LL is placed in 2H, may be native is prone to extend > > > her/his> > > > > hand to charity, provided other planets do not obstruct but > only> > > > > support such action.> > > > >> > > > > blessings> > > > >> > > > > Renu> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "sreeram > > > srinivas"> > > > > sreeram64@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > The variation to the prediction based on the LL in various > > > houses,> > > > > undergo a> > > > > > change or modifications, based on the planets constituting > the> > > > > Lagna Lord,> > > > > > ownership of houses, Sign in which it is placed. Will use > this> > > > > example in> > > > > > the discussions later. Kindly mention the Lagna Signs of > the> > > > > quoted> > > > > > example. Is it Cancer or Sagattarius or Pisces ??> > > > > >> > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > Sreeram srinivas> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -owner > > > > > > [-owner ] On > > > Behalf> > > > > Of renunw> > > > > > Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:51 AM> > > > > > -owner > > > > > > Re: Bhavat_Bhavam & LL Placements> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sreeram ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks for an interesting posting...especially taking > houses > > in> > > > > pairs and> > > > > > sharing your research knowledge with others.> > > > > >> > > > > > Since your observations are based on real horoscopes and > real> > > > > people ...I> > > > > > would say that I cannot agree with the following:> > > > > >> > > > > > "LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen well> > > > > > off people in their 70's worrying about their properties, > > > inspite> > > > > of> > > > > > dividing the property during their time,...."> > > > > >> > > > > > In a real life case, husband and wife both have thier LLs > in > > 2H> > > > > but never> > > > > > ever keep anything for themselves. Instead everything is> > > > > distributed not> > > > > > only among their children but among others too! Can these > > > natives> > > > > be called> > > > > > money minded? Sure, other planetary placements may have an> > > > > explanation to> > > > > > this exception to your observation. May be you have a > better> > > > > explanation...> > > > > >> > > > > > But a special feature in this couple is that they are 1st > > > cousins> > > > > if that> > > > > > has to do anything with LL placed in 2H.> > > > > >> > > > > > blessings> > > > > >> > > > > > Renu> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Sreenadh ji, If we don't have a good future for our sons, invariably we won't have a good future for our daughters. Only good sons will become good husbands...and make our daughters happy. See, this is how women think...never discriminates anyone! Takes the middle path!!! blessings Renu , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > I am truly glad to learn the following. Thank you... > > > > --- > Actually IT IS SO. Horoscope matching follows a " women > > centric > > > approach " in which the astrologer is trying to match the " Boys > > > horoscope with that of the girls horoscope " in an effort > > to " ensure > > > the happiness of the girl " in married life. The sages were > > sensitive > > > to the issues and they wanted to bring back balance of society > > > by " thinking for the girls; from the side of the girls " in > > horoscope > > > matching. You will see it and feel it - if study horoscope > > matching > > > in detail. The true astrologer doing compatibility checking is > > like a > > > father who is trying to select a good husband for his daughter - > > we > > > won't like our daughter to suffer, do we? > > > > Neither do we want our daughters nor our sons to suffer. > Lol...! Well said! I was taking a famine supportive perspective and > you didn't supported me... But true - I agree to your statement.. > > blessings > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji, > > > > > > > > I greatly appreciate your realization on 'gender > > discrimination',if > > > > that is what you meant. The question asked by boy's parents when > > > > matching horoscopes should be reversed. In fact marriage is a > > kind > > > > of a new life for an unspoilt, pure, innocent girl...[there may > > be > > > > exceptions]... The bride's parents should ask whether the boy's > > > > horoscope would assure THE HAPPINESS OF THE GIRL. > > > > > > > > Pancha Maha Purusha Yoga, then placement of LL in particular > > houses > > > > BOAST of husband enjoying extra marital relationships. [That is > > the > > > > idea I got reading previous postings...if I am wrong ..I do > > > > apologize]... I do not see anything to boast about that. There > > is > > > > nothing good about that at least not in the modern world. On the > > > > other hand if such a combination is present in the wife's > > > horoscope, > > > > would any 'man' in all you men approve such a thing? You will > > lable > > > > her as an immoral woman! [i would rather not use any other word > > > > here, being a public forum] > > > > > > > > I will be glad to share any knowledge I have with this forum as > > > and > > > > when it is relevant....And thanks for your invitaiton Sunil > > ji.Yet, > > > > I am only a novice and enjoy learning from good and interesting > > > > postings. I will try my best to join the discussions if I feel > > that > > > > my postings are of any use or where I need to clarify any doubt. > > > > Thanks once again! > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna , > > > > > > > > > > om namo narayanaya, > > > > > > > > > > dear renu ji. > > > > > > > > > > yes i must admit that all scriptures and religious > > books > > > > > addreessing man and always say he will do this or he will > > enjoy > > > > this > > > > > effect and even kerala books maitains that the raja yogas of > > wife > > > > will > > > > > be enjoyed by the husband and in matchting kerala parents esp > > > > asked me > > > > > is this girl is lucky ,or will she bring more laxmi like this . > > > > > > > > > > Off course it was reflecting the period we were going tru . > > > > > > > > > > so i think and from your post i can idetify your own > > > versions > > > > or > > > > > your experience tru charts ,u got some thin to say to us - can > > u > > > > share > > > > > with us . > > > > > > > > > > I want a womans perspectiv on reading if u hav any experince > > and > > > > pls > > > > > help us to speed up our search which can be suitable to modern > > > > era . > > > > > > > > > > so i invite u to contribute your views, reserches and > > finding > > > > from a > > > > > womans point of view we will be whole heartly accepting and > > try > > > to > > > > > analyse your finding. > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " renunw " > > > <renunw@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > LL in 2H: > > > > > > > > > > > > When LL is placed in 2H and if it has no other single > > > > relationship > > > > > > or commitment with/to other planets/houses, naturally the > > native > > > > > > will tend to keep all one's wealth to oneself, and.. 'money > > > > > > mindedness' is valid. LL in the house of earnings etc.... > > will > > > > make > > > > > > the native wonder what to do with all one's property and > > > > earnings. > > > > > > The native [LL] surrounded by so much wealth with no other > > being > > > > > > [other planetary influences] to claim all that wealth will > > > > naturally > > > > > > wonder and worry about it. Sreeram ji specifically mentions > > that > > > > > > many rich people he knows has this problem. So it is > > essential > > > > that > > > > > > other planetry placements in the horsocope promises all that > > > > riches. > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand if the same condition prevails in a very > > poor > > > > > > native, she/he [mind you ..never forget the female species > > of > > > > humans > > > > > > which everyone seems to be forgetting in this forum], may > > > wonder > > > > and > > > > > > worry about earning money all the time...once again agreeing > > > with > > > > > > Sreeram ji's observation ... " money mindedness " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the picture may change dramatically or mildly depending > > on > > > > > > other planetary influences. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence I have no argument with Sreeram ji's authentic > > > > observations. > > > > > > > > > > > > Going further...Sri K. N. Rao says in addition to other > > > > > > attributes... " that charity one does with money and gifts are > > > > also to > > > > > > be seen from the second house. " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > So if LL is placed in 2H, may be native is prone to extend > > > > her/his > > > > > > hand to charity, provided other planets do not obstruct but > > only > > > > > > support such action. > > > > > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sreeram > > > > srinivas " > > > > > > sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The variation to the prediction based on the LL in various > > > > houses, > > > > > > undergo a > > > > > > > change or modifications, based on the planets constituting > > the > > > > > > Lagna Lord, > > > > > > > ownership of houses, Sign in which it is placed. Will use > > this > > > > > > example in > > > > > > > the discussions later. Kindly mention the Lagna Signs of > > the > > > > > > quoted > > > > > > > example. Is it Cancer or Sagattarius or Pisces ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > Sreeram srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -owner > > > > > > > [- owner ] On > > > > Behalf > > > > > > Of renunw > > > > > > > Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:51 AM > > > > > > > -owner > > > > > > > Re: Bhavat_Bhavam & LL Placements > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreeram ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for an interesting posting...especially taking > > houses > > > in > > > > > > pairs and > > > > > > > sharing your research knowledge with others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since your observations are based on real horoscopes and > > real > > > > > > people ...I > > > > > > > would say that I cannot agree with the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen well > > > > > > > off people in their 70's worrying about their properties, > > > > inspite > > > > > > of > > > > > > > dividing the property during their time,.... " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a real life case, husband and wife both have thier LLs > > in > > > 2H > > > > > > but never > > > > > > > ever keep anything for themselves. Instead everything is > > > > > > distributed not > > > > > > > only among their children but among others too! Can these > > > > natives > > > > > > be called > > > > > > > money minded? Sure, other planetary placements may have an > > > > > > explanation to > > > > > > > this exception to your observation. May be you have a > > better > > > > > > explanation... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But a special feature in this couple is that they are 1st > > > > cousins > > > > > > if that > > > > > > > has to do anything with LL placed in 2H. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Well said! , " renunw " <renunw wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > If we don't have a good future for our sons, invariably we won't > have a good future for our daughters. Only good sons will become > good husbands...and make our daughters happy. > > See, this is how women think...never discriminates anyone! Takes > the middle path!!! > > blessings > > Renu > > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > > > I am truly glad to learn the following. Thank you... > > > > > > --- > Actually IT IS SO. Horoscope matching follows a " women > > > centric > > > > approach " in which the astrologer is trying to match the " Boys > > > > horoscope with that of the girls horoscope " in an effort > > > to " ensure > > > > the happiness of the girl " in married life. The sages were > > > sensitive > > > > to the issues and they wanted to bring back balance of society > > > > by " thinking for the girls; from the side of the girls " in > > > horoscope > > > > matching. You will see it and feel it - if study horoscope > > > matching > > > > in detail. The true astrologer doing compatibility checking is > > > like a > > > > father who is trying to select a good husband for his > daughter - > > > we > > > > won't like our daughter to suffer, do we? > > > > > > Neither do we want our daughters nor our sons to suffer. > > Lol...! Well said! I was taking a famine supportive > perspective and > > you didn't supported me... But true - I agree to your > statement.. > > > blessings > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji, > > > > > > > > > > I greatly appreciate your realization on 'gender > > > discrimination',if > > > > > that is what you meant. The question asked by boy's parents > when > > > > > matching horoscopes should be reversed. In fact marriage is a > > > kind > > > > > of a new life for an unspoilt, pure, innocent girl...[there > may > > > be > > > > > exceptions]... The bride's parents should ask whether the > boy's > > > > > horoscope would assure THE HAPPINESS OF THE GIRL. > > > > > > > > > > Pancha Maha Purusha Yoga, then placement of LL in particular > > > houses > > > > > BOAST of husband enjoying extra marital relationships. [That > is > > > the > > > > > idea I got reading previous postings...if I am wrong ..I do > > > > > apologize]... I do not see anything to boast about that. > There > > > is > > > > > nothing good about that at least not in the modern world. On > the > > > > > other hand if such a combination is present in the wife's > > > > horoscope, > > > > > would any 'man' in all you men approve such a thing? You will > > > lable > > > > > her as an immoral woman! [i would rather not use any other > word > > > > > here, being a public forum] > > > > > > > > > > I will be glad to share any knowledge I have with this forum > as > > > > and > > > > > when it is relevant....And thanks for your invitaiton Sunil > > > ji.Yet, > > > > > I am only a novice and enjoy learning from good and > interesting > > > > > postings. I will try my best to join the discussions if I > feel > > > that > > > > > my postings are of any use or where I need to clarify any > doubt. > > > > > Thanks once again! > > > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna , > > > > > > > > > > > > om namo narayanaya, > > > > > > > > > > > > dear renu ji. > > > > > > > > > > > > yes i must admit that all scriptures and religious > > > books > > > > > > addreessing man and always say he will do this or he will > > > enjoy > > > > > this > > > > > > effect and even kerala books maitains that the raja yogas > of > > > wife > > > > > will > > > > > > be enjoyed by the husband and in matchting kerala parents > esp > > > > > asked me > > > > > > is this girl is lucky ,or will she bring more laxmi like > this . > > > > > > > > > > > > Off course it was reflecting the period we were going tru . > > > > > > > > > > > > so i think and from your post i can idetify your own > > > > versions > > > > > or > > > > > > your experience tru charts ,u got some thin to say to us - > can > > > u > > > > > share > > > > > > with us . > > > > > > > > > > > > I want a womans perspectiv on reading if u hav any > experince > > > and > > > > > pls > > > > > > help us to speed up our search which can be suitable to > modern > > > > > era . > > > > > > > > > > > > so i invite u to contribute your views, reserches and > > > finding > > > > > from a > > > > > > womans point of view we will be whole heartly accepting and > > > try > > > > to > > > > > > analyse your finding. > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " renunw " > > > > <renunw@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LL in 2H: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When LL is placed in 2H and if it has no other single > > > > > relationship > > > > > > > or commitment with/to other planets/houses, naturally the > > > native > > > > > > > will tend to keep all one's wealth to oneself, > and.. 'money > > > > > > > mindedness' is valid. LL in the house of earnings etc.... > > > will > > > > > make > > > > > > > the native wonder what to do with all one's property and > > > > > earnings. > > > > > > > The native [LL] surrounded by so much wealth with no > other > > > being > > > > > > > [other planetary influences] to claim all that wealth > will > > > > > naturally > > > > > > > wonder and worry about it. Sreeram ji specifically > mentions > > > that > > > > > > > many rich people he knows has this problem. So it is > > > essential > > > > > that > > > > > > > other planetry placements in the horsocope promises all > that > > > > > riches. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand if the same condition prevails in a > very > > > poor > > > > > > > native, she/he [mind you ..never forget the female > species > > > of > > > > > humans > > > > > > > which everyone seems to be forgetting in this forum], may > > > > wonder > > > > > and > > > > > > > worry about earning money all the time...once again > agreeing > > > > with > > > > > > > Sreeram ji's observation ... " money mindedness " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the picture may change dramatically or mildly > depending > > > on > > > > > > > other planetary influences. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence I have no argument with Sreeram ji's authentic > > > > > observations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Going further...Sri K. N. Rao says in addition to other > > > > > > > attributes... " that charity one does with money and gifts > are > > > > > also to > > > > > > > be seen from the second house. " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So if LL is placed in 2H, may be native is prone to > extend > > > > > her/his > > > > > > > hand to charity, provided other planets do not obstruct > but > > > only > > > > > > > support such action. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " sreeram > > > > > srinivas " > > > > > > > sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The variation to the prediction based on the LL in > various > > > > > houses, > > > > > > > undergo a > > > > > > > > change or modifications, based on the planets > constituting > > > the > > > > > > > Lagna Lord, > > > > > > > > ownership of houses, Sign in which it is placed. Will > use > > > this > > > > > > > example in > > > > > > > > the discussions later. Kindly mention the Lagna Signs > of > > > the > > > > > > > quoted > > > > > > > > example. Is it Cancer or Sagattarius or Pisces ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > Sreeram srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -owner > > > > > > > > [- > owner ] On > > > > > Behalf > > > > > > > Of renunw > > > > > > > > Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:51 AM > > > > > > > > -owner > > > > > > > > Re: Bhavat_Bhavam & LL Placements > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreeram ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for an interesting posting...especially taking > > > houses > > > > in > > > > > > > pairs and > > > > > > > > sharing your research knowledge with others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since your observations are based on real horoscopes > and > > > real > > > > > > > people ...I > > > > > > > > would say that I cannot agree with the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen > well > > > > > > > > off people in their 70's worrying about their > properties, > > > > > inspite > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > dividing the property during their time,.... " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a real life case, husband and wife both have thier > LLs > > > in > > > > 2H > > > > > > > but never > > > > > > > > ever keep anything for themselves. Instead everything > is > > > > > > > distributed not > > > > > > > > only among their children but among others too! Can > these > > > > > natives > > > > > > > be called > > > > > > > > money minded? Sure, other planetary placements may > have an > > > > > > > explanation to > > > > > > > > this exception to your observation. May be you have a > > > better > > > > > > > explanation... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But a special feature in this couple is that they are > 1st > > > > > cousins > > > > > > > if that > > > > > > > > has to do anything with LL placed in 2H. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Liked and Share same views as u RenuJi. Sometimes i think as there are not enough good fathers, there are not enough good girls. I m in delhi and what i see is delhi's girls lack awareness of relationship in the same degree they have awareness of cosmetic products. as a result, even good girls are suffering due to a bad relationship. regards, Lalit. , " renunw " <renunw wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > If we don't have a good future for our sons, invariably we won't > have a good future for our daughters. Only good sons will become > good husbands...and make our daughters happy. > > See, this is how women think...never discriminates anyone! Takes > the middle path!!! > > blessings > > Renu > > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > > > I am truly glad to learn the following. Thank you... > > > > > > --- > Actually IT IS SO. Horoscope matching follows a " women > > > centric > > > > approach " in which the astrologer is trying to match the " Boys > > > > horoscope with that of the girls horoscope " in an effort > > > to " ensure > > > > the happiness of the girl " in married life. The sages were > > > sensitive > > > > to the issues and they wanted to bring back balance of society > > > > by " thinking for the girls; from the side of the girls " in > > > horoscope > > > > matching. You will see it and feel it - if study horoscope > > > matching > > > > in detail. The true astrologer doing compatibility checking is > > > like a > > > > father who is trying to select a good husband for his > daughter - > > > we > > > > won't like our daughter to suffer, do we? > > > > > > Neither do we want our daughters nor our sons to suffer. > > Lol...! Well said! I was taking a famine supportive > perspective and > > you didn't supported me... But true - I agree to your > statement.. > > > blessings > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji, > > > > > > > > > > I greatly appreciate your realization on 'gender > > > discrimination',if > > > > > that is what you meant. The question asked by boy's parents > when > > > > > matching horoscopes should be reversed. In fact marriage is a > > > kind > > > > > of a new life for an unspoilt, pure, innocent girl...[there > may > > > be > > > > > exceptions]... The bride's parents should ask whether the > boy's > > > > > horoscope would assure THE HAPPINESS OF THE GIRL. > > > > > > > > > > Pancha Maha Purusha Yoga, then placement of LL in particular > > > houses > > > > > BOAST of husband enjoying extra marital relationships. [That > is > > > the > > > > > idea I got reading previous postings...if I am wrong ..I do > > > > > apologize]... I do not see anything to boast about that. > There > > > is > > > > > nothing good about that at least not in the modern world. On > the > > > > > other hand if such a combination is present in the wife's > > > > horoscope, > > > > > would any 'man' in all you men approve such a thing? You will > > > lable > > > > > her as an immoral woman! [i would rather not use any other > word > > > > > here, being a public forum] > > > > > > > > > > I will be glad to share any knowledge I have with this forum > as > > > > and > > > > > when it is relevant....And thanks for your invitaiton Sunil > > > ji.Yet, > > > > > I am only a novice and enjoy learning from good and > interesting > > > > > postings. I will try my best to join the discussions if I > feel > > > that > > > > > my postings are of any use or where I need to clarify any > doubt. > > > > > Thanks once again! > > > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna , > > > > > > > > > > > > om namo narayanaya, > > > > > > > > > > > > dear renu ji. > > > > > > > > > > > > yes i must admit that all scriptures and religious > > > books > > > > > > addreessing man and always say he will do this or he will > > > enjoy > > > > > this > > > > > > effect and even kerala books maitains that the raja yogas > of > > > wife > > > > > will > > > > > > be enjoyed by the husband and in matchting kerala parents > esp > > > > > asked me > > > > > > is this girl is lucky ,or will she bring more laxmi like > this . > > > > > > > > > > > > Off course it was reflecting the period we were going tru . > > > > > > > > > > > > so i think and from your post i can idetify your own > > > > versions > > > > > or > > > > > > your experience tru charts ,u got some thin to say to us - > can > > > u > > > > > share > > > > > > with us . > > > > > > > > > > > > I want a womans perspectiv on reading if u hav any > experince > > > and > > > > > pls > > > > > > help us to speed up our search which can be suitable to > modern > > > > > era . > > > > > > > > > > > > so i invite u to contribute your views, reserches and > > > finding > > > > > from a > > > > > > womans point of view we will be whole heartly accepting and > > > try > > > > to > > > > > > analyse your finding. > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " renunw " > > > > <renunw@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LL in 2H: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When LL is placed in 2H and if it has no other single > > > > > relationship > > > > > > > or commitment with/to other planets/houses, naturally the > > > native > > > > > > > will tend to keep all one's wealth to oneself, > and.. 'money > > > > > > > mindedness' is valid. LL in the house of earnings etc.... > > > will > > > > > make > > > > > > > the native wonder what to do with all one's property and > > > > > earnings. > > > > > > > The native [LL] surrounded by so much wealth with no > other > > > being > > > > > > > [other planetary influences] to claim all that wealth > will > > > > > naturally > > > > > > > wonder and worry about it. Sreeram ji specifically > mentions > > > that > > > > > > > many rich people he knows has this problem. So it is > > > essential > > > > > that > > > > > > > other planetry placements in the horsocope promises all > that > > > > > riches. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand if the same condition prevails in a > very > > > poor > > > > > > > native, she/he [mind you ..never forget the female > species > > > of > > > > > humans > > > > > > > which everyone seems to be forgetting in this forum], may > > > > wonder > > > > > and > > > > > > > worry about earning money all the time...once again > agreeing > > > > with > > > > > > > Sreeram ji's observation ... " money mindedness " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then the picture may change dramatically or mildly > depending > > > on > > > > > > > other planetary influences. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence I have no argument with Sreeram ji's authentic > > > > > observations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Going further...Sri K. N. Rao says in addition to other > > > > > > > attributes... " that charity one does with money and gifts > are > > > > > also to > > > > > > > be seen from the second house. " .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So if LL is placed in 2H, may be native is prone to > extend > > > > > her/his > > > > > > > hand to charity, provided other planets do not obstruct > but > > > only > > > > > > > support such action. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " sreeram > > > > > srinivas " > > > > > > > sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The variation to the prediction based on the LL in > various > > > > > houses, > > > > > > > undergo a > > > > > > > > change or modifications, based on the planets > constituting > > > the > > > > > > > Lagna Lord, > > > > > > > > ownership of houses, Sign in which it is placed. Will > use > > > this > > > > > > > example in > > > > > > > > the discussions later. Kindly mention the Lagna Signs > of > > > the > > > > > > > quoted > > > > > > > > example. Is it Cancer or Sagattarius or Pisces ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > Sreeram srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -owner > > > > > > > > [- > owner ] On > > > > > Behalf > > > > > > > Of renunw > > > > > > > > Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:51 AM > > > > > > > > -owner > > > > > > > > Re: Bhavat_Bhavam & LL Placements > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreeram ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for an interesting posting...especially taking > > > houses > > > > in > > > > > > > pairs and > > > > > > > > sharing your research knowledge with others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since your observations are based on real horoscopes > and > > > real > > > > > > > people ...I > > > > > > > > would say that I cannot agree with the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " LL in 2H = The native is money minded { I have seen > well > > > > > > > > off people in their 70's worrying about their > properties, > > > > > inspite > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > dividing the property during their time,.... " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a real life case, husband and wife both have thier > LLs > > > in > > > > 2H > > > > > > > but never > > > > > > > > ever keep anything for themselves. Instead everything > is > > > > > > > distributed not > > > > > > > > only among their children but among others too! Can > these > > > > > natives > > > > > > > be called > > > > > > > > money minded? Sure, other planetary placements may > have an > > > > > > > explanation to > > > > > > > > this exception to your observation. May be you have a > > > better > > > > > > > explanation... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But a special feature in this couple is that they are > 1st > > > > > cousins > > > > > > > if that > > > > > > > > has to do anything with LL placed in 2H. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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