Calculation for best spiritual practice

[Guest guest]

What is the correct way to determine the best path to total enlightenment from

the

individuals birth data? What divisional charts would one look at? How would we

find the

external or internal yoga's to use? If the individual was not a Hindu

practitioner how would

we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in the chart and

the teachers

location and qualities? How would we determine what meditations would be best

for a

generation of individuals on the planet at this time would be another question?

Taking the

next full moon as the starting date for the generation in question and using a

ten year time

period for the generation in question. Any insights would be greatly

appreciated. Thank you.

Peace and Joy to All.

[Guest guest]

Hare ramakrishna,

dear nickie ji ,

a sadhana is not confined to any religion ,

5th house is house of mantras and our merits we accumulated from past births and 9th house is house of merits and dharma of this birth ,

jupiter is the karaka for dharma

ketu is moksha karaka

venus is great shukracharya who only got maha mritynjaya mantra

8th is is the house of secret sadhanas

so we hav to see the chart and dasha and transit in view of this

and assess the chance of spiritual practise and its fruitful ending

planets in sarpa drekkana can help u in rising of kundali if dasa is connected with any one of the signifactors and dasa and houses .

without a strong chart its difficult to attain and rest depneds on ur effort .Its all part of esoteric astrology ,The varga u hav to see is vimshamsa but prashna marga maitaines that first see birth chart for any promise --so is nadi granthas.

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

, "Nickie Scott" <n.scott wrote:>> What is the correct way to determine the best path to total enlightenment from the > individuals birth data? What divisional charts would one look at? How would we find the > external or internal yoga's to use? If the individual was not a Hindu practitioner how would > we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in the chart and the teachers > location and qualities? How would we determine what meditations would be best for a > generation of individuals on the planet at this time would be another question? Taking the > next full moon as the starting date for the generation in question and using a ten year time > period for the generation in question. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. > Peace and Joy to All.>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil Ji, Thank you so much for this light. I will commence to studying all of this information. You have given me much to study here. I am sure that more questions will arise from this. You are right is saying that a sadhana is not confined to any religion. I believe firmly that each of us has given a path to walk on that will lead us back to the source of light and love. The sages have left us guides and maps on how to return back to the source and it is clear to me that Vedic Astrology can help to light the way. I am hoping to find my own way home and take the hand of others along the way home. Thank you for keeping the candle trimmed and burning for us all to see. Thank you for your kind and quick response also. May your day and night be full of peace and joy. Nickie Jan ScottOn Sep 25, 2007, at 9:22 AM, sunil nair wrote:Hare ramakrishna,dear nickie ji ,     a sadhana is not confined to any religion ,5th house is house of mantras and our merits we accumulated from past births and 9th house is house of merits and dharma of this birth , jupiter is the karaka for dharmaketu is moksha karakavenus is great shukracharya who only got maha mritynjaya mantra8th is is the house of secret sadhanasso we hav to see the chart and dasha and transit in view of thisand assess the chance of spiritual practise and its fruitful endingplanets in sarpa drekkana can help u in rising of kundali if dasa is connected with any one of the signifactors and dasa and houses .without a strong chart its difficult to attain and rest depneds on ur effort .Its all part of esoteric astrology ,The varga u hav to see is vimshamsa but prashna marga maitaines that first see birth chart for any promise --so is nadi granthas.regrds sunil nairom shreem mahalaxmai namah. , "Nickie Scott" <n.scott wrote:>> What is the correct way to determine the best path to total enlightenment from the > individuals birth data? What divisional charts would one look at? How would we find the > external or internal yoga's to use? If the individual was not a Hindu practitioner how would > we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in the chart and the teachers > location and qualities? How would we determine what meditations would be best for a > generation of individuals on the planet at this time would be another question? Taking the > next full moon as the starting date for the generation in question and using a ten year time > period for the generation in question. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. > Peace and Joy to All.>

[Guest guest]

May Love and Peace Reign Supreme Not knowing how truly to address you in Indian convention I hope you will forbear any lack of politeness and gracefulness in addressing you from the beginning correctly. If you would kindly let me know the best way to start my letters to you and other Jyotish Guru's I would be most appreciative. I have looked at the Rasi chart as you have suggested and find the following things that might seem to bring some promise of success in pursuing a spiritual life with good results. I am not entirely sure of how to find the negative influences that would prevent success so I would kindly ask that you could shed some light on this. The following things I have found that look positive. Lagna: Scorpio 17 degrees in Jyestha. Mars occupies this house placed in Jyestha also. Ruler of the first in the first.Jupiter in second house in Mula Nakshatra.Moon in the fifth in UttarabhadrapadRahu in the 6th in AshwiniSaturn in the 10th in MaghaVenus in the 11th in HastaMercury and Ketu in the 12th both in Swati. Ketu being 27' ahead of Mercury.Sun which is Atmakaraka in the 12th in Visakha at 27 degrees.The Sun is very debilitated and only has a Shad Bala strength of 0.76.  Can I calculate sarpa drekkana with Jagannatha Hora 6.0 for each planet?When reading the Vimshamsa should I look at it the same as I would the Rasi chart or just pay attention to the fifth house ruler and Jupiter?Could you recommend a prashna marga Joytisha and the best place and person to seek a nadi granthas reading. Lastly if you are open to be hired to look at my chart what would be a fair charge for your services? Jyotish is such a large ocean of knowledge that it would seem best to have a navigator that knows how to reach the distant shore. I have been studying western astrology casually for many years and numerology also and can see that it will take a lifetime of study to grasp even the basics of Jyotish. Thank you for your time, consideration and knowledge.May a gentle rain of amrita fall on all living beings, nourishing us all with Love and Knowledge. May all living beings be free of suffering and enjoy great bliss. Peace On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:22 AM, sunil nair wrote:Hare ramakrishna,dear nickie ji ,     a sadhana is not confined to any religion ,5th house is house of mantras and our merits we accumulated from past births and 9th house is house of merits and dharma of this birth , jupiter is the karaka for dharmaketu is moksha karakavenus is great shukracharya who only got maha mritynjaya mantra8th is is the house of secret sadhanasso we hav to see the chart and dasha and transit in view of thisand assess the chance of spiritual practise and its fruitful endingplanets in sarpa drekkana can help u in rising of kundali if dasa is connected with any one of the signifactors and dasa and houses .without a strong chart its difficult to attain and rest depneds on ur effort .Its all part of esoteric astrology ,The varga u hav to see is vimshamsa but prashna marga maitaines that first see birth chart for any promise --so is nadi granthas.regrds sunil nairom shreem mahalaxmai namah. , "Nickie Scott" <n.scott wrote:>> What is the correct way to determine the best path to total enlightenment from the > individuals birth data? What divisional charts would one look at? How would we find the > external or internal yoga's to use? If the individual was not a Hindu practitioner how would > we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in the chart and the teachers > location and qualities? How would we determine what meditations would be best for a > generation of individuals on the planet at this time would be another question? Taking the > next full moon as the starting date for the generation in question and using a ten year time > period for the generation in question. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. > Peace and Joy to All.>

[Guest guest]

Hare ramakrishna,

dear nickie ji .

Namaskar .

Your chart which u giv house position only -is showing good traits for spirituality .

2nd and 5th lord in own house.which is one of dharma trikona of kaal purusha chart.

Its good for achiving sucess in mantras as 2nd house is house of mouth and speech .5th lord is in moola trikona sign with strenght is showing merits from past life .

9th lord and lord of merits of this birth,,moon is connected with 5th house its another esoteric combination.

U got a blemish less gaja kesari yoga --a yoga more indiactiong protection and idealism .Which is by 5th and 9th lords ,jup and moon

Mars in on house giving a ruchaka yoga ,and your lagna is natural 8th house scorpio .

moon aspected by venus who is also in parivartana (exchange) between merc who is 8th and 11th lord .So its good but aspect of 11th lord ,as lord of gains and a kama triangle lord (desires) and venus (7th lord ) is a obstacleBut venus as 12th lord is good.

Again aspect of jupiter on saturn who is 4th lord of kula devata is a good yoga and sat is also aspecting its own 4th house

sarpa drekkana is first dreekkana in scorpio and last drekkana of cancer and pisces

regrding consultancy for knowing spiritual aspects of life i am not competent and no authority ,so i cannot giv u any paid reading

I mean nadi by nadi dictums not readers ,they just read it and they i find stupid translaters and some r even cheating publik also ,so i cannot vouch for it.

regrding prashna maarga and all that sree nadh ji and madhu ji is here and i am waiting their replies to u also .

Vimsamasa i f u mail me privately i can discuss with u what i know

thanks and regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

 

, Nickie Jan Scott <n.scott wrote:>> May Love and Peace Reign Supreme> > Not knowing how truly to address you in Indian convention I hope you > will forbear any lack of politeness and gracefulness in addressing > you from the beginning correctly. If you would kindly let me know the > best way to start my letters to you and other Jyotish Guru's I would > be most appreciative.> I have looked at the Rasi chart as you have suggested and find the > following things that might seem to bring some promise of success in > pursuing a spiritual life with good results. I am not entirely sure > of how to find the negative influences that would prevent success so > I would kindly ask that you could shed some light on this. The > following things I have found that look positive.> > Lagna: Scorpio 17 degrees in Jyestha. Mars occupies this house placed > in Jyestha also. Ruler of the first in the first.> Jupiter in second house in Mula Nakshatra.> Moon in the fifth in Uttarabhadrapad> Rahu in the 6th in Ashwini> Saturn in the 10th in Magha> Venus in the 11th in Hasta> Mercury and Ketu in the 12th both in Swati. Ketu being 27' ahead of > Mercury.> Sun which is Atmakaraka in the 12th in Visakha at 27 degrees.> > The Sun is very debilitated and only has a Shad Bala strength of 0.76.> > Can I calculate sarpa drekkana with Jagannatha Hora 6.0 for each planet?> > When reading the Vimshamsa should I look at it the same as I would > the Rasi chart or just pay attention to the fifth house ruler and > Jupiter?> > Could you recommend a prashna marga Joytisha and the best place and > person to seek a nadi granthas reading.> > Lastly if you are open to be hired to look at my chart what would be > a fair charge for your services? Jyotish is such a large ocean of > knowledge that it would seem best to have a navigator that knows how > to reach the distant shore. I have been studying western astrology > casually for many years and numerology also and can see that it will > take a lifetime of study to grasp even the basics of Jyotish. Thank > you for your time, consideration and knowledge.> > May a gentle rain of amrita fall on all living beings, nourishing us > all with Love and Knowledge. May all living beings be free of > suffering and enjoy great bliss. Peace> > > > > On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:22 AM, sunil nair wrote:> > >> > Hare ramakrishna,> >> > dear nickie ji ,> >> > a sadhana is not confined to any religion ,> >> > 5th house is house of mantras and our merits we accumulated from > > past births and 9th house is house of merits and dharma of this > > birth ,> >> > jupiter is the karaka for dharma> >> > ketu is moksha karaka> >> > venus is great shukracharya who only got maha mritynjaya mantra> >> > 8th is is the house of secret sadhanas> >> > so we hav to see the chart and dasha and transit in view of this> >> > and assess the chance of spiritual practise and its fruitful ending> >> > planets in sarpa drekkana can help u in rising of kundali if dasa > > is connected with any one of the signifactors and dasa and houses .> >> > without a strong chart its difficult to attain and rest depneds on > > ur effort .Its all part of esoteric astrology ,The varga u hav to > > see is vimshamsa but prashna marga maitaines that first see birth > > chart for any promise --so is nadi granthas.> >> > regrds sunil nair> >> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> >> >> > , "Nickie Scott" > > n.scott@ wrote:> > >> > > What is the correct way to determine the best path to total > > enlightenment from the> > > individuals birth data? What divisional charts would one look at? > > How would we find the> > > external or internal yoga's to use? If the individual was not a > > Hindu practitioner how would> > > we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in > > the chart and the teachers> > > location and qualities? How would we determine what meditations > > would be best for a> > > generation of individuals on the planet at this time would be > > another question? Taking the> > > next full moon as the starting date for the generation in > > question and using a ten year time> > > period for the generation in question. Any insights would be > > greatly appreciated. Thank you.> > > Peace and Joy to All.> > >> >> >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Nickie ji,

There is no best or worst ways to enlightenment - the path that is

best suited for an individual depends on the individual itself. Even

normal daily life can lead to enlightenment.

Prior to answering other queries - one important point. Too many

wavering queries never gets answered completely. When the wavering

diminishes so as the questions. When the questions are few - the mind

is ripe to receive answers - and the answers goes into details; then

even the unsaid words starts conveying....

Now back to questions -If you are asking 'what chart/divisional

chat to look to see a combination indicating enlightenment?', then

there are several things to be known at the first instance itself.

* First, No chart can indicate enlightenment - it is beyond all

bounds. The charts can only indicate 'sanyasa yoga', 'pravirgya

yoga', 'avatara yoga' etc - whether all these leads to the ultimate

enlightenment or not - that depends on that individuals themselves.

Therefore stop looking for enlightenment in the charts - it is of no

use.

* Second, there is nothing called 'divisional charts' as per ancient

indian astrology, but only 'divisions' - i.e. Divisions of Sign.

Divisions only modify the results indicated by the natal chart. So

what ever the combination or result be - first, it should be present

there in the natal chart itself. So your so called non-

existent 'divisional charts' becomes irrelevant. (Learn more about

this)

* Third, Astrology is not Hindu, or Christian or Muslim - It is not

bound to any religion. But a search - a search to know how time and

universe influence human destiny. Such a search is universal and so

as astrology.

* Medications: Ask your doctor or an Ayurveda specialist. If you

mean Remedies by the word medications then know that there are two

types of remedies for everything - both complementary; One, Physical

remedy and Two, Divine remedy (Learn more about this)

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " Nickie Scott "

<n.scott wrote:

>

> What is the correct way to determine the best path to total

enlightenment from the

> individuals birth data? What divisional charts would one look at?

How would we find the

> external or internal yoga's to use? If the individual was not a

Hindu practitioner how would

> we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in the

chart and the teachers

> location and qualities? How would we determine what meditations

would be best for a

> generation of individuals on the planet at this time would be

another question? Taking the

> next full moon as the starting date for the generation in question

and using a ten year time

> period for the generation in question. Any insights would be

greatly appreciated. Thank you.

> Peace and Joy to All.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Nickie,

 

May i know what enlightenment u want to have, Do u want to feel God's

love within you?

 

Or

 

Do u want to see, u are able to expose some sort of occult power

through you ?

 

or

 

Do u want to know the life purpose of ur's life.

 

 

pls. write back.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Nickie ji,

> There is no best or worst ways to enlightenment - the path that

is

> best suited for an individual depends on the individual itself.

Even

> normal daily life can lead to enlightenment.

> Prior to answering other queries - one important point. Too many

> wavering queries never gets answered completely. When the wavering

> diminishes so as the questions. When the questions are few - the

mind

> is ripe to receive answers - and the answers goes into details;

then

> even the unsaid words starts conveying....

> Now back to questions -If you are asking 'what chart/divisional

> chat to look to see a combination indicating enlightenment?', then

> there are several things to be known at the first instance itself.

> * First, No chart can indicate enlightenment - it is beyond all

> bounds. The charts can only indicate 'sanyasa yoga', 'pravirgya

> yoga', 'avatara yoga' etc - whether all these leads to the ultimate

> enlightenment or not - that depends on that individuals themselves.

> Therefore stop looking for enlightenment in the charts - it is of

no

> use.

> * Second, there is nothing called 'divisional charts' as per

ancient

> indian astrology, but only 'divisions' - i.e. Divisions of Sign.

> Divisions only modify the results indicated by the natal chart. So

> what ever the combination or result be - first, it should be

present

> there in the natal chart itself. So your so called non-

> existent 'divisional charts' becomes irrelevant. (Learn more about

> this)

> * Third, Astrology is not Hindu, or Christian or Muslim - It is

not

> bound to any religion. But a search - a search to know how time and

> universe influence human destiny. Such a search is universal and so

> as astrology.

> * Medications: Ask your doctor or an Ayurveda specialist. If

you

> mean Remedies by the word medications then know that there are two

> types of remedies for everything - both complementary; One,

Physical

> remedy and Two, Divine remedy (Learn more about this)

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " Nickie Scott "

> <n.scott@> wrote:

> >

> > What is the correct way to determine the best path to total

> enlightenment from the

> > individuals birth data? What divisional charts would one look at?

> How would we find the

> > external or internal yoga's to use? If the individual was not a

> Hindu practitioner how would

> > we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in

the

> chart and the teachers

> > location and qualities? How would we determine what meditations

> would be best for a

> > generation of individuals on the planet at this time would be

> another question? Taking the

> > next full moon as the starting date for the generation in

question

> and using a ten year time

> > period for the generation in question. Any insights would be

> greatly appreciated. Thank you.

> > Peace and Joy to All.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Nickie ji,

On re-reading your mail and my response to your mail, I found that

I have made some mistakes. Sorry for that.

==>

If the individual was not a Hindu practitioner how would

we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in the

chart and the teachers location and qualities? How would we determine

what meditations would be best for a generation of individuals on the

planet at this time would be another question?

<==

First, I made a mistake of reading the word 'meditations'

as 'medications'. Sorry for that - I am still an un attentive mind

which is yet to reach enlightenment. Pardon my mistake.

Meditations are not related to or bound by any religion. Hindus, Zen

Masters, Buddhists, Jains, Sufis - all practiced it. Christ was an

enlightened master as the Gnostic scrolls conveys. Similar to best or

worst way to enlightenment, there is no best or worst ways to

meditation. A thousands methods all leading to the same destination -

whatever technique suits you select that. Meditation essentially

means 'thoughtless state', i.e. no-mind. To reach the same many

methods/techniques are suggested by the masters. Select the one which

suits you. I don't think there would be a particular technique (to

reach meditative state) that could be advised to 'a generation of

individuals'. Spirituality is not for the society, but for the

individual - in the path everyone is alone, the path unique. So there

could be techniques suitable for the individuals - but not for

a 'generation of individuals'.

 

Jumping to the question - Where should we find teacher in the chart?

The Guru (Master) in the path of spirituality is indicated by the 9th

house. But better than the 9th house in chart, your heart can tell

the truth. When you meet him your heart will resonate with him - you

will feel the tremendous amount of love flowing in between. And that

is it - your end. Beware - spirituality is a truly hazardous path -

and the true guru your death; for you the most dangerous individual

in the world! Beware of him!

Hope this helps.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Nickie ji,

> There is no best or worst ways to enlightenment - the path that

is

> best suited for an individual depends on the individual itself.

Even

> normal daily life can lead to enlightenment.

> Prior to answering other queries - one important point. Too many

> wavering queries never gets answered completely. When the wavering

> diminishes so as the questions. When the questions are few - the

mind

> is ripe to receive answers - and the answers goes into details;

then

> even the unsaid words starts conveying....

> Now back to questions -If you are asking 'what chart/divisional

> chat to look to see a combination indicating enlightenment?', then

> there are several things to be known at the first instance itself.

> * First, No chart can indicate enlightenment - it is beyond all

> bounds. The charts can only indicate 'sanyasa yoga', 'pravirgya

> yoga', 'avatara yoga' etc - whether all these leads to the ultimate

> enlightenment or not - that depends on that individuals themselves.

> Therefore stop looking for enlightenment in the charts - it is of

no

> use.

> * Second, there is nothing called 'divisional charts' as per

ancient

> indian astrology, but only 'divisions' - i.e. Divisions of Sign.

> Divisions only modify the results indicated by the natal chart. So

> what ever the combination or result be - first, it should be

present

> there in the natal chart itself. So your so called non-

> existent 'divisional charts' becomes irrelevant. (Learn more about

> this)

> * Third, Astrology is not Hindu, or Christian or Muslim - It is

not

> bound to any religion. But a search - a search to know how time and

> universe influence human destiny. Such a search is universal and so

> as astrology.

> * Medications: Ask your doctor or an Ayurveda specialist. If

you

> mean Remedies by the word medications then know that there are two

> types of remedies for everything - both complementary; One,

Physical

> remedy and Two, Divine remedy (Learn more about this)

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " Nickie Scott "

> <n.scott@> wrote:

> >

> > What is the correct way to determine the best path to total

> enlightenment from the

> > individuals birth data? What divisional charts would one look at?

> How would we find the

> > external or internal yoga's to use? If the individual was not a

> Hindu practitioner how would

> > we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in

the

> chart and the teachers

> > location and qualities? How would we determine what meditations

> would be best for a

> > generation of individuals on the planet at this time would be

> another question? Taking the

> > next full moon as the starting date for the generation in

question

> and using a ten year time

> > period for the generation in question. Any insights would be

> greatly appreciated. Thank you.

> > Peace and Joy to All.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Srinadh,

 

The key is no meditation not the meditation, no stress in the mind,

just see, how many thoughts are occupying your mind, one wrapper

above another.... you will enjoy watching layers of thoughts and then

u will understand instincts and then understand ur own nature and

then ur own personality and then one day u w'd overcome this virtual

trapping, and finally u will recognise urself, what u r. still ego

will be there but when u will see, all are like you, covered witing

ego, u will tear it off,and then love will come out... will spread in

the world and then a state u will see sorrow and happiness are just

state of mind and then can choose whatever u like a state of sorrow

or a state of happiness and than u can show to others no need to feel

sad, there is nothing like loss or gain.

 

no knowledge will ever die coz this world is made by knowledge only,

mother nature reveals the knowledge itself. whatever nari granthaas u

missed, dont worry they will come to ur mind, dont get confused, u

may not hear shlokas but ur mind will discover what was discovered by

sages, even sages watches whom to hand over the knowledge, and they

do their part beautifully.

 

No Joy, No Sorrow, all is my creation, my way of doing fun.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Nickie ji,

> On re-reading your mail and my response to your mail, I found

that

> I have made some mistakes. Sorry for that.

> ==>

> If the individual was not a Hindu practitioner how would

> we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in the

> chart and the teachers location and qualities? How would we

determine

> what meditations would be best for a generation of individuals on

the

> planet at this time would be another question?

> <==

> First, I made a mistake of reading the word 'meditations'

> as 'medications'. Sorry for that - I am still an un attentive mind

> which is yet to reach enlightenment. Pardon my mistake.

> Meditations are not related to or bound by any religion. Hindus,

Zen

> Masters, Buddhists, Jains, Sufis - all practiced it. Christ was an

> enlightened master as the Gnostic scrolls conveys. Similar to best

or

> worst way to enlightenment, there is no best or worst ways to

> meditation. A thousands methods all leading to the same

destination -

> whatever technique suits you select that. Meditation essentially

> means 'thoughtless state', i.e. no-mind. To reach the same many

> methods/techniques are suggested by the masters. Select the one

which

> suits you. I don't think there would be a particular technique (to

> reach meditative state) that could be advised to 'a generation of

> individuals'. Spirituality is not for the society, but for the

> individual - in the path everyone is alone, the path unique. So

there

> could be techniques suitable for the individuals - but not for

> a 'generation of individuals'.

>

> Jumping to the question - Where should we find teacher in the

chart?

> The Guru (Master) in the path of spirituality is indicated by the

9th

> house. But better than the 9th house in chart, your heart can tell

> the truth. When you meet him your heart will resonate with him -

you

> will feel the tremendous amount of love flowing in between. And

that

> is it - your end. Beware - spirituality is a truly hazardous path -

> and the true guru your death; for you the most dangerous individual

> in the world! Beware of him!

> Hope this helps.

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " Sreenadh "

> <sreesog@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nickie ji,

> > There is no best or worst ways to enlightenment - the path that

> is

> > best suited for an individual depends on the individual itself.

> Even

> > normal daily life can lead to enlightenment.

> > Prior to answering other queries - one important point. Too

many

> > wavering queries never gets answered completely. When the

wavering

> > diminishes so as the questions. When the questions are few - the

> mind

> > is ripe to receive answers - and the answers goes into details;

> then

> > even the unsaid words starts conveying....

> > Now back to questions -If you are asking 'what chart/divisional

> > chat to look to see a combination indicating enlightenment?',

then

> > there are several things to be known at the first instance

itself.

> > * First, No chart can indicate enlightenment - it is beyond all

> > bounds. The charts can only indicate 'sanyasa yoga', 'pravirgya

> > yoga', 'avatara yoga' etc - whether all these leads to the

ultimate

> > enlightenment or not - that depends on that individuals

themselves.

> > Therefore stop looking for enlightenment in the charts - it is of

> no

> > use.

> > * Second, there is nothing called 'divisional charts' as per

> ancient

> > indian astrology, but only 'divisions' - i.e. Divisions of Sign.

> > Divisions only modify the results indicated by the natal chart.

So

> > what ever the combination or result be - first, it should be

> present

> > there in the natal chart itself. So your so called non-

> > existent 'divisional charts' becomes irrelevant. (Learn more

about

> > this)

> > * Third, Astrology is not Hindu, or Christian or Muslim - It is

> not

> > bound to any religion. But a search - a search to know how time

and

> > universe influence human destiny. Such a search is universal and

so

> > as astrology.

> > * Medications: Ask your doctor or an Ayurveda specialist. If

> you

> > mean Remedies by the word medications then know that there are

two

> > types of remedies for everything - both complementary; One,

> Physical

> > remedy and Two, Divine remedy (Learn more about this)

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , " Nickie Scott "

> > <n.scott@> wrote:

> > >

> > > What is the correct way to determine the best path to total

> > enlightenment from the

> > > individuals birth data? What divisional charts would one look

at?

> > How would we find the

> > > external or internal yoga's to use? If the individual was not a

> > Hindu practitioner how would

> > > we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in

> the

> > chart and the teachers

> > > location and qualities? How would we determine what meditations

> > would be best for a

> > > generation of individuals on the planet at this time would be

> > another question? Taking the

> > > next full moon as the starting date for the generation in

> question

> > and using a ten year time

> > > period for the generation in question. Any insights would be

> > greatly appreciated. Thank you.

> > > Peace and Joy to All.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Lalit, I would like to see all of these things you ask. I would love to remove the obstacles to seeing God's Love moving through me so that I could share that Love unconditionally with all living beings. I would also like to attain what ever siddhis that would help to guide other living beings back to God's Love and divine grace. I would also like to know what my life purpose is here on the planet at this time and reach my highest potential. If I could discover what God's intention is for me and the best way for me to contribute in a positive, uplifting manner to the welfare of this planet and to other living beings who are on this journey with me then it would help me focus my efforts on fruitful paths. There are so many choices of meditations and karmic activities and I would like to find the activities and meditations that would be able to be shared with others that might help bring us all back to peace, compassion and love. Thank you for taking the time to write to me and for asking these questions. It has helped me to think more about what I am trying to accomplish here and caused me to reflect on what to me is a very important question. I hope your day was filled with joy and happiness, that you slept well and your dreams were sweet. Nickie. On Sep 26, 2007, at 12:09 AM, litsol wrote:Dear Nickie,May i know what enlightenment u want to have, Do u want to feel God's love within you?Or Do u want to see, u are able to expose some sort of occult power through you ?or Do u want to know the life purpose of ur's life.pls. write back.regards,Lalit.--- In  , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Nickie ji,> There is no best or worst ways to enlightenment - the path that is > best suited for an individual depends on the individual itself. Even > normal daily life can lead to enlightenment. > Prior to answering other queries - one important point. Too many > wavering queries never gets answered completely. When the wavering > diminishes so as the questions. When the questions are few - the mind > is ripe to receive answers - and the answers goes into details; then > even the unsaid words starts conveying....> Now back to questions -If you are asking 'what chart/divisional > chat to look to see a combination indicating enlightenment?', then > there are several things to be known at the first instance itself. > * First, No chart can indicate enlightenment - it is beyond all > bounds. The charts can only indicate 'sanyasa yoga', 'pravirgya > yoga', 'avatara yoga' etc - whether all these leads to the ultimate > enlightenment or not - that depends on that individuals themselves. > Therefore stop looking for enlightenment in the charts - it is of no > use.> * Second, there is nothing called 'divisional charts' as per ancient > indian astrology, but only 'divisions' - i.e. Divisions of Sign. > Divisions only modify the results indicated by the natal chart. So > what ever the combination or result be - first, it should be present > there in the natal chart itself. So your so called non-> existent 'divisional charts' becomes irrelevant. (Learn more about > this)> * Third, Astrology is not Hindu, or Christian or Muslim - It is not > bound to any religion. But a search - a search to know how time and > universe influence human destiny. Such a search is universal and so > as astrology. > * Medications: Ask your doctor or an Ayurveda specialist. If you > mean Remedies by the word medications then know that there are two > types of remedies for everything - both complementary; One, Physical > remedy and Two, Divine remedy (Learn more about this)> Love,> Sreenadh> > --- In  , "Nickie Scott" > <n.scott@> wrote:> >> > What is the correct way to determine the best path to total > enlightenment from the > > individuals birth data? What divisional charts would one look at? > How would we find the > > external or internal yoga's to use? If the individual was not a > Hindu practitioner how would > > we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in the > chart and the teachers > > location and qualities? How would we determine what meditations > would be best for a > > generation of individuals on the planet at this time would be > another question? Taking the > > next full moon as the starting date for the generation in question > and using a ten year time > > period for the generation in question. Any insights would be > greatly appreciated. Thank you. > > Peace and Joy to All.> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Lalit, Thank you for your kind and swift response. I will save this so that I can come back to it from time to time. Many layers to ponder. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, feelings and insights. Beautifully put too. Peace to you. NickieOn Sep 26, 2007, at 7:07 AM, litsol wrote:Dear Srinadh,The key is no meditation not the meditation, no stress in the mind, just see, how many thoughts are occupying your mind, one wrapper above another.... you will enjoy watching layers of thoughts and then u will understand instincts and then understand ur own nature and then ur own personality and then one day u w'd overcome this virtual trapping, and finally u will recognise urself, what u r. still ego will be there but when u will see, all are like you, covered witing ego, u will tear it off,and then love will come out... will spread in the world and then a state u will see sorrow and happiness are just state of mind and then can choose whatever u like a state of sorrow or a state of happiness and than u can show to others no need to feel sad, there is nothing like loss or gain.no knowledge will ever die coz this world is made by knowledge only, mother nature reveals the knowledge itself. whatever nari granthaas u missed, dont worry they will come to ur mind, dont get confused, u may not hear shlokas but ur mind will discover what was discovered by sages, even sages watches whom to hand over the knowledge, and they do their part beautifully.No Joy, No Sorrow, all is my creation, my way of doing fun.regards,Lalit.--- In  , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Nickie ji,> On re-reading your mail and my response to your mail, I found that > I have made some mistakes. Sorry for that.> ==>> If the individual was not a Hindu practitioner how would> we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in the > chart and the teachers location and qualities? How would we determine > what meditations would be best for a generation of individuals on the > planet at this time would be another question?> <==> First, I made a mistake of reading the word 'meditations' > as 'medications'. Sorry for that - I am still an un attentive mind > which is yet to reach enlightenment. Pardon my mistake. > Meditations are not related to or bound by any religion. Hindus, Zen > Masters, Buddhists, Jains, Sufis - all practiced it. Christ was an > enlightened master as the Gnostic scrolls conveys. Similar to best or > worst way to enlightenment, there is no best or worst ways to > meditation. A thousands methods all leading to the same destination - > whatever technique suits you select that. Meditation essentially > means 'thoughtless state', i.e. no-mind. To reach the same many > methods/techniques are suggested by the masters. Select the one which > suits you. I don't think there would be a particular technique (to > reach meditative state) that could be advised to 'a generation of > individuals'. Spirituality is not for the society, but for the > individual - in the path everyone is alone, the path unique. So there > could be techniques suitable for the individuals - but not for > a 'generation of individuals'. > > Jumping to the question - Where should we find teacher in the chart? > The Guru (Master) in the path of spirituality is indicated by the 9th > house. But better than the 9th house in chart, your heart can tell > the truth. When you meet him your heart will resonate with him - you > will feel the tremendous amount of love flowing in between. And that > is it - your end. Beware - spirituality is a truly hazardous path - > and the true guru your death; for you the most dangerous individual > in the world! Beware of him! > Hope this helps.> Love,> Sreenadh> > --- In  , "Sreenadh" > <sreesog@> wrote:> >> > Dear Nickie ji,> > There is no best or worst ways to enlightenment - the path that > is > > best suited for an individual depends on the individual itself. > Even > > normal daily life can lead to enlightenment. > > Prior to answering other queries - one important point. Too many > > wavering queries never gets answered completely. When the wavering > > diminishes so as the questions. When the questions are few - the > mind > > is ripe to receive answers - and the answers goes into details; > then > > even the unsaid words starts conveying....> > Now back to questions -If you are asking 'what chart/divisional > > chat to look to see a combination indicating enlightenment?', then > > there are several things to be known at the first instance itself. > > * First, No chart can indicate enlightenment - it is beyond all > > bounds. The charts can only indicate 'sanyasa yoga', 'pravirgya > > yoga', 'avatara yoga' etc - whether all these leads to the ultimate > > enlightenment or not - that depends on that individuals themselves. > > Therefore stop looking for enlightenment in the charts - it is of > no > > use.> > * Second, there is nothing called 'divisional charts' as per > ancient > > indian astrology, but only 'divisions' - i.e. Divisions of Sign. > > Divisions only modify the results indicated by the natal chart. So > > what ever the combination or result be - first, it should be > present > > there in the natal chart itself. So your so called non-> > existent 'divisional charts' becomes irrelevant. (Learn more about > > this)> > * Third, Astrology is not Hindu, or Christian or Muslim - It is > not > > bound to any religion. But a search - a search to know how time and > > universe influence human destiny. Such a search is universal and so > > as astrology. > > * Medications: Ask your doctor or an Ayurveda specialist. If > you > > mean Remedies by the word medications then know that there are two > > types of remedies for everything - both complementary; One, > Physical > > remedy and Two, Divine remedy (Learn more about this)> > Love,> > Sreenadh> > > > --- In  , "Nickie Scott" > > <n.scott@> wrote:> > >> > > What is the correct way to determine the best path to total > > enlightenment from the > > > individuals birth data? What divisional charts would one look at? > > How would we find the > > > external or internal yoga's to use? If the individual was not a > > Hindu practitioner how would > > > we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in > the > > chart and the teachers > > > location and qualities? How would we determine what meditations > > would be best for a > > > generation of individuals on the planet at this time would be > > another question? Taking the > > > next full moon as the starting date for the generation in > question > > and using a ten year time > > > period for the generation in question. Any insights would be > > greatly appreciated. Thank you. > > > Peace and Joy to All.> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Lalit ji,

Good - In the path - but not yet there.

> still ego will be there : No, there won't be.

> Choose: No, no choosing.

> No Joy, No Sorrow: No, Full joy and Full sorrow - it is called life.

Lack of Joy and Sorrow is death.

Thanks for the good mail.

Note: Let us not streach it. Let us leave it - be in the path. For

us, as of now, Let us go back to astrology.

Love and Hugs,

Sreenadh

 

, " litsol " <mlalit

wrote:

>

> Dear Srinadh,

>

> The key is no meditation not the meditation, no stress in the mind,

> just see, how many thoughts are occupying your mind, one wrapper

> above another.... you will enjoy watching layers of thoughts and then

> u will understand instincts and then understand ur own nature and

> then ur own personality and then one day u w'd overcome this virtual

> trapping, and finally u will recognise urself, what u r. still ego

> will be there but when u will see, all are like you, covered witing

> ego, u will tear it off,and then love will come out... will spread in

> the world and then a state u will see sorrow and happiness are just

> state of mind and then can choose whatever u like a state of sorrow

> or a state of happiness and than u can show to others no need to feel

> sad, there is nothing like loss or gain.

>

> no knowledge will ever die coz this world is made by knowledge only,

> mother nature reveals the knowledge itself. whatever nari granthaas u

> missed, dont worry they will come to ur mind, dont get confused, u

> may not hear shlokas but ur mind will discover what was discovered by

> sages, even sages watches whom to hand over the knowledge, and they

> do their part beautifully.

>

> No Joy, No Sorrow, all is my creation, my way of doing fun.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

>

> , " Sreenadh "

> <sreesog@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nickie ji,

> > On re-reading your mail and my response to your mail, I found

> that

> > I have made some mistakes. Sorry for that.

> > ==>

> > If the individual was not a Hindu practitioner how would

> > we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in the

> > chart and the teachers location and qualities? How would we

> determine

> > what meditations would be best for a generation of individuals on

> the

> > planet at this time would be another question?

> > <==

> > First, I made a mistake of reading the word 'meditations'

> > as 'medications'. Sorry for that - I am still an un attentive mind

> > which is yet to reach enlightenment. Pardon my mistake.

> > Meditations are not related to or bound by any religion. Hindus,

> Zen

> > Masters, Buddhists, Jains, Sufis - all practiced it. Christ was an

> > enlightened master as the Gnostic scrolls conveys. Similar to best

> or

> > worst way to enlightenment, there is no best or worst ways to

> > meditation. A thousands methods all leading to the same

> destination -

> > whatever technique suits you select that. Meditation essentially

> > means 'thoughtless state', i.e. no-mind. To reach the same many

> > methods/techniques are suggested by the masters. Select the one

> which

> > suits you. I don't think there would be a particular technique (to

> > reach meditative state) that could be advised to 'a generation of

> > individuals'. Spirituality is not for the society, but for the

> > individual - in the path everyone is alone, the path unique. So

> there

> > could be techniques suitable for the individuals - but not for

> > a 'generation of individuals'.

> >

> > Jumping to the question - Where should we find teacher in the

> chart?

> > The Guru (Master) in the path of spirituality is indicated by the

> 9th

> > house. But better than the 9th house in chart, your heart can tell

> > the truth. When you meet him your heart will resonate with him -

> you

> > will feel the tremendous amount of love flowing in between. And

> that

> > is it - your end. Beware - spirituality is a truly hazardous path -

> > and the true guru your death; for you the most dangerous individual

> > in the world! Beware of him!

> > Hope this helps.

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , " Sreenadh "

> > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Nickie ji,

> > > There is no best or worst ways to enlightenment - the path that

> > is

> > > best suited for an individual depends on the individual itself.

> > Even

> > > normal daily life can lead to enlightenment.

> > > Prior to answering other queries - one important point. Too

> many

> > > wavering queries never gets answered completely. When the

> wavering

> > > diminishes so as the questions. When the questions are few - the

> > mind

> > > is ripe to receive answers - and the answers goes into details;

> > then

> > > even the unsaid words starts conveying....

> > > Now back to questions -If you are asking 'what chart/divisional

> > > chat to look to see a combination indicating enlightenment?',

> then

> > > there are several things to be known at the first instance

> itself.

> > > * First, No chart can indicate enlightenment - it is beyond all

> > > bounds. The charts can only indicate 'sanyasa yoga', 'pravirgya

> > > yoga', 'avatara yoga' etc - whether all these leads to the

> ultimate

> > > enlightenment or not - that depends on that individuals

> themselves.

> > > Therefore stop looking for enlightenment in the charts - it is of

> > no

> > > use.

> > > * Second, there is nothing called 'divisional charts' as per

> > ancient

> > > indian astrology, but only 'divisions' - i.e. Divisions of Sign.

> > > Divisions only modify the results indicated by the natal chart.

> So

> > > what ever the combination or result be - first, it should be

> > present

> > > there in the natal chart itself. So your so called non-

> > > existent 'divisional charts' becomes irrelevant. (Learn more

> about

> > > this)

> > > * Third, Astrology is not Hindu, or Christian or Muslim - It is

> > not

> > > bound to any religion. But a search - a search to know how time

> and

> > > universe influence human destiny. Such a search is universal and

> so

> > > as astrology.

> > > * Medications: Ask your doctor or an Ayurveda specialist. If

> > you

> > > mean Remedies by the word medications then know that there are

> two

> > > types of remedies for everything - both complementary; One,

> > Physical

> > > remedy and Two, Divine remedy (Learn more about this)

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > > , " Nickie Scott "

> > > <n.scott@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > What is the correct way to determine the best path to total

> > > enlightenment from the

> > > > individuals birth data? What divisional charts would one look

> at?

> > > How would we find the

> > > > external or internal yoga's to use? If the individual was not a

> > > Hindu practitioner how would

> > > > we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in

> > the

> > > chart and the teachers

> > > > location and qualities? How would we determine what meditations

> > > would be best for a

> > > > generation of individuals on the planet at this time would be

> > > another question? Taking the

> > > > next full moon as the starting date for the generation in

> > question

> > > and using a ten year time

> > > > period for the generation in question. Any insights would be

> > > greatly appreciated. Thank you.

> > > > Peace and Joy to All.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Nickie ji,

Love is just Love. There is no classification such as God's love or

Devil's love. Love IS simply devine!

The biggest siddhi one can have is the ability to love - over flow

with love. The search of other super natural siddhis is fruitless

excesise - it is good to be natural, and only rare individuals poses

this siddhi.

> I would also like to know what my life purpose is..

None else can teach you that - but only you can find it. That is the

beuty of spiritual path.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, Nickie Jan Scott

<n.scott wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit,

>

> I would like to see all of these things you ask. I would love to

> remove the obstacles to seeing God's Love moving through me so that I

> could share that Love unconditionally with all living beings. I would

> also like to attain what ever siddhis that would help to guide other

> living beings back to God's Love and divine grace. I would also like

> to know what my life purpose is here on the planet at this time and

> reach my highest potential. If I could discover what God's intention

> is for me and the best way for me to contribute in a positive,

> uplifting manner to the welfare of this planet and to other living

> beings who are on this journey with me then it would help me focus my

> efforts on fruitful paths. There are so many choices of meditations

> and karmic activities and I would like to find the activities and

> meditations that would be able to be shared with others that might

> help bring us all back to peace, compassion and love.

> Thank you for taking the time to write to me and for asking these

> questions. It has helped me to think more about what I am trying to

> accomplish here and caused me to reflect on what to me is a very

> important question. I hope your day was filled with joy and

> happiness, that you slept well and your dreams were sweet. Nickie.

>

> On Sep 26, 2007, at 12:09 AM, litsol wrote:

>

> > Dear Nickie,

> >

> > May i know what enlightenment u want to have, Do u want to feel God's

> > love within you?

> >

> > Or

> >

> > Do u want to see, u are able to expose some sort of occult power

> > through you ?

> >

> > or

> >

> > Do u want to know the life purpose of ur's life.

> >

> > pls. write back.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > , " Sreenadh "

> > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Nickie ji,

> > > There is no best or worst ways to enlightenment - the path that

> > is

> > > best suited for an individual depends on the individual itself.

> > Even

> > > normal daily life can lead to enlightenment.

> > > Prior to answering other queries - one important point. Too many

> > > wavering queries never gets answered completely. When the wavering

> > > diminishes so as the questions. When the questions are few - the

> > mind

> > > is ripe to receive answers - and the answers goes into details;

> > then

> > > even the unsaid words starts conveying....

> > > Now back to questions -If you are asking 'what chart/divisional

> > > chat to look to see a combination indicating enlightenment?', then

> > > there are several things to be known at the first instance itself.

> > > * First, No chart can indicate enlightenment - it is beyond all

> > > bounds. The charts can only indicate 'sanyasa yoga', 'pravirgya

> > > yoga', 'avatara yoga' etc - whether all these leads to the ultimate

> > > enlightenment or not - that depends on that individuals themselves.

> > > Therefore stop looking for enlightenment in the charts - it is of

> > no

> > > use.

> > > * Second, there is nothing called 'divisional charts' as per

> > ancient

> > > indian astrology, but only 'divisions' - i.e. Divisions of Sign.

> > > Divisions only modify the results indicated by the natal chart. So

> > > what ever the combination or result be - first, it should be

> > present

> > > there in the natal chart itself. So your so called non-

> > > existent 'divisional charts' becomes irrelevant. (Learn more about

> > > this)

> > > * Third, Astrology is not Hindu, or Christian or Muslim - It is

> > not

> > > bound to any religion. But a search - a search to know how time and

> > > universe influence human destiny. Such a search is universal and so

> > > as astrology.

> > > * Medications: Ask your doctor or an Ayurveda specialist. If

> > you

> > > mean Remedies by the word medications then know that there are two

> > > types of remedies for everything - both complementary; One,

> > Physical

> > > remedy and Two, Divine remedy (Learn more about this)

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > > , " Nickie Scott "

> > > <n.scott@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > What is the correct way to determine the best path to total

> > > enlightenment from the

> > > > individuals birth data? What divisional charts would one look at?

> > > How would we find the

> > > > external or internal yoga's to use? If the individual was not a

> > > Hindu practitioner how would

> > > > we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in

> > the

> > > chart and the teachers

> > > > location and qualities? How would we determine what meditations

> > > would be best for a

> > > > generation of individuals on the planet at this time would be

> > > another question? Taking the

> > > > next full moon as the starting date for the generation in

> > question

> > > and using a ten year time

> > > > period for the generation in question. Any insights would be

> > > greatly appreciated. Thank you.

> > > > Peace and Joy to All.

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your insights. I read your first response last night before I went to sleep and woke up thinking upon what you wrote to me. It triggered more questions and I will need to let the things you wrote take more time to sink in. You are entirely correct in saying that meditations are not bound by religion. Most religions do seem to practice some form of meditation. Of the major religions Vedic scholars have been around for so long developing spiritual life and methods for liberation from suffering that makes it hard sometimes to separate the meditation techniques out from the basic culture and philosophy that they came from. This also makes it hard to share these teachings with others that are seeking the same goal, freedom from suffering, union with God, self knowledge etc. etc.. So many masters have walked before us and applied themselves with great hardships to attaining the knowledge of liberation from so many traditions and cultures. It seems tragic sometimes to me that the methods that they discovered through so much hard work and sometimes great suffering gets lost in the cultural and religious back drops and clothing. Especially here in the USA we have so much opportunity to learn from so many traditions that have spread seeds of light here. Moving to the core teachings and assimilating the truth without getting caught in the props and backdrops sometimes become hard. Integrating the truth without losing the essence seems important. As I study more about the different cultures and paths to knowledge I am both impressed by the quality and quantity of knowledge available and bewildered by the choices sometimes. This makes me want to distill things down to the essence and look for the simplest and most common thread between us all. Still though I am fascinated and awed by the radiance of knowledge that Jyotish has to offer. I also appreciate more the contributions of people like yourself who have endeavored to keep this knowledge alive and who are sharing this with those of us who have some interest. You have shared here that to look for the Guru indications in the ninth house which in my Rasi chart is Cancer which is not occupied by a Graha. The ninth house ruler is in the fifth house another feminine sign Pisces. The nakshatra of the moon is Uttarabhadrapada. If I study these and the benefic and malefic aspects on the fifth house and the moon then would this then give me a clearer picture? Would ninth house ruler placed in the fifth also transfer Cancer qualities to the fifth as well?Peace and Joy to you. NickieOn Sep 26, 2007, at 6:52 AM, Sreenadh wrote:Dear Nickie ji,On re-reading your mail and my response to your mail, I found that I have made some mistakes. Sorry for that.==>If the individual was not a Hindu practitioner how wouldwe find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in the chart and the teachers location and qualities? How would we determine what meditations would be best for a generation of individuals on the planet at this time would be another question?<==First, I made a mistake of reading the word 'meditations' as 'medications'. Sorry for that - I am still an un attentive mind which is yet to reach enlightenment. Pardon my mistake. :)Meditations are not related to or bound by any religion. Hindus, Zen Masters, Buddhists, Jains, Sufis - all practiced it. Christ was an enlightened master as the Gnostic scrolls conveys. Similar to best or worst way to enlightenment, there is no best or worst ways to meditation. A thousands methods all leading to the same destination - whatever technique suits you select that. Meditation essentially means 'thoughtless state', i.e. no-mind. To reach the same many methods/techniques are suggested by the masters. Select the one which suits you. I don't think there would be a particular technique (to reach meditative state) that could be advised to 'a generation of individuals'. Spirituality is not for the society, but for the individual - in the path everyone is alone, the path unique. So there could be techniques suitable for the individuals - but not for a 'generation of individuals'. Jumping to the question - Where should we find teacher in the chart? The Guru (Master) in the path of spirituality is indicated by the 9th house. But better than the 9th house in chart, your heart can tell the truth. When you meet him your heart will resonate with him - you will feel the tremendous amount of love flowing in between. And that is it - your end. Beware - spirituality is a truly hazardous path - and the true guru your death; for you the most dangerous individual in the world! Beware of him! :)Hope this helps.Love,Sreenadh--- In  , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Nickie ji,> There is no best or worst ways to enlightenment - the path that is > best suited for an individual depends on the individual itself. Even > normal daily life can lead to enlightenment. > Prior to answering other queries - one important point. Too many > wavering queries never gets answered completely. When the wavering > diminishes so as the questions. When the questions are few - the mind > is ripe to receive answers - and the answers goes into details; then > even the unsaid words starts conveying....> Now back to questions -If you are asking 'what chart/divisional > chat to look to see a combination indicating enlightenment?', then > there are several things to be known at the first instance itself. > * First, No chart can indicate enlightenment - it is beyond all > bounds. The charts can only indicate 'sanyasa yoga', 'pravirgya > yoga', 'avatara yoga' etc - whether all these leads to the ultimate > enlightenment or not - that depends on that individuals themselves. > Therefore stop looking for enlightenment in the charts - it is of no > use.> * Second, there is nothing called 'divisional charts' as per ancient > indian astrology, but only 'divisions' - i.e. Divisions of Sign. > Divisions only modify the results indicated by the natal chart. So > what ever the combination or result be - first, it should be present > there in the natal chart itself. So your so called non-> existent 'divisional charts' becomes irrelevant. (Learn more about > this)> * Third, Astrology is not Hindu, or Christian or Muslim - It is not > bound to any religion. But a search - a search to know how time and > universe influence human destiny. Such a search is universal and so > as astrology. > * Medications: Ask your doctor or an Ayurveda specialist. If you > mean Remedies by the word medications then know that there are two > types of remedies for everything - both complementary; One, Physical > remedy and Two, Divine remedy (Learn more about this)> Love,> Sreenadh> > --- In  , "Nickie Scott" > <n.scott@> wrote:> >> > What is the correct way to determine the best path to total > enlightenment from the > > individuals birth data? What divisional charts would one look at? > How would we find the > > external or internal yoga's to use? If the individual was not a > Hindu practitioner how would > > we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in the > chart and the teachers > > location and qualities? How would we determine what meditations > would be best for a > > generation of individuals on the planet at this time would be > another question? Taking the > > next full moon as the starting date for the generation in question > and using a ten year time > > period for the generation in question. Any insights would be > greatly appreciated. Thank you. > > Peace and Joy to All.> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Nickie ji,

Thanks for the good mail. But is it not time that we should go

back to astrology?

As of your 9th house I think somebody else in this group may answer.

There is so many other major threads running in this forum such -

* Lagna lord in Various houses

* Sign-House-Planet Combinations (Just started)

And so on. Please go through the material available in the files

section - it is a good collection. That may spare you from asking many

questions - and the slow but smooth learning of the group will continue.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, Nickie Jan Scott

<n.scott wrote:

>

> Thank you for your insights. I read your first response last night

> before I went to sleep and woke up thinking upon what you wrote to

> me. It triggered more questions and I will need to let the things you

> wrote take more time to sink in. You are entirely correct in saying

> that meditations are not bound by religion. Most religions do seem to

> practice some form of meditation. Of the major religions Vedic

> scholars have been around for so long developing spiritual life and

> methods for liberation from suffering that makes it hard sometimes to

> separate the meditation techniques out from the basic culture and

> philosophy that they came from. This also makes it hard to share

> these teachings with others that are seeking the same goal, freedom

> from suffering, union with God, self knowledge etc. etc.. So many

> masters have walked before us and applied themselves with great

> hardships to attaining the knowledge of liberation from so many

> traditions and cultures. It seems tragic sometimes to me that the

> methods that they discovered through so much hard work and sometimes

> great suffering gets lost in the cultural and religious back drops

> and clothing. Especially here in the USA we have so much opportunity

> to learn from so many traditions that have spread seeds of light

> here. Moving to the core teachings and assimilating the truth without

> getting caught in the props and backdrops sometimes become hard.

> Integrating the truth without losing the essence seems important. As

> I study more about the different cultures and paths to knowledge I am

> both impressed by the quality and quantity of knowledge available and

> bewildered by the choices sometimes. This makes me want to distill

> things down to the essence and look for the simplest and most common

> thread between us all. Still though I am fascinated and awed by the

> radiance of knowledge that Jyotish has to offer. I also appreciate

> more the contributions of people like yourself who have endeavored to

> keep this knowledge alive and who are sharing this with those of us

> who have some interest.

> You have shared here that to look for the Guru indications in the

> ninth house which in my Rasi chart is Cancer which is not occupied by

> a Graha. The ninth house ruler is in the fifth house another feminine

> sign Pisces. The nakshatra of the moon is Uttarabhadrapada. If I

> study these and the benefic and malefic aspects on the fifth house

> and the moon then would this then give me a clearer picture? Would

> ninth house ruler placed in the fifth also transfer Cancer qualities

> to the fifth as well?

>

> Peace and Joy to you. Nickie

> On Sep 26, 2007, at 6:52 AM, Sreenadh wrote:

>

> > Dear Nickie ji,

> > On re-reading your mail and my response to your mail, I found that

> > I have made some mistakes. Sorry for that.

> > ==>

> > If the individual was not a Hindu practitioner how would

> > we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in the

> > chart and the teachers location and qualities? How would we determine

> > what meditations would be best for a generation of individuals on the

> > planet at this time would be another question?

> > <==

> > First, I made a mistake of reading the word 'meditations'

> > as 'medications'. Sorry for that - I am still an un attentive mind

> > which is yet to reach enlightenment. Pardon my mistake.

> > Meditations are not related to or bound by any religion. Hindus, Zen

> > Masters, Buddhists, Jains, Sufis - all practiced it. Christ was an

> > enlightened master as the Gnostic scrolls conveys. Similar to best or

> > worst way to enlightenment, there is no best or worst ways to

> > meditation. A thousands methods all leading to the same destination -

> > whatever technique suits you select that. Meditation essentially

> > means 'thoughtless state', i.e. no-mind. To reach the same many

> > methods/techniques are suggested by the masters. Select the one which

> > suits you. I don't think there would be a particular technique (to

> > reach meditative state) that could be advised to 'a generation of

> > individuals'. Spirituality is not for the society, but for the

> > individual - in the path everyone is alone, the path unique. So there

> > could be techniques suitable for the individuals - but not for

> > a 'generation of individuals'.

> >

> > Jumping to the question - Where should we find teacher in the chart?

> > The Guru (Master) in the path of spirituality is indicated by the 9th

> > house. But better than the 9th house in chart, your heart can tell

> > the truth. When you meet him your heart will resonate with him - you

> > will feel the tremendous amount of love flowing in between. And that

> > is it - your end. Beware - spirituality is a truly hazardous path -

> > and the true guru your death; for you the most dangerous individual

> > in the world! Beware of him!

> > Hope this helps.

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , " Sreenadh "

> > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Nickie ji,

> > > There is no best or worst ways to enlightenment - the path that

> > is

> > > best suited for an individual depends on the individual itself.

> > Even

> > > normal daily life can lead to enlightenment.

> > > Prior to answering other queries - one important point. Too many

> > > wavering queries never gets answered completely. When the wavering

> > > diminishes so as the questions. When the questions are few - the

> > mind

> > > is ripe to receive answers - and the answers goes into details;

> > then

> > > even the unsaid words starts conveying....

> > > Now back to questions -If you are asking 'what chart/divisional

> > > chat to look to see a combination indicating enlightenment?', then

> > > there are several things to be known at the first instance itself.

> > > * First, No chart can indicate enlightenment - it is beyond all

> > > bounds. The charts can only indicate 'sanyasa yoga', 'pravirgya

> > > yoga', 'avatara yoga' etc - whether all these leads to the ultimate

> > > enlightenment or not - that depends on that individuals themselves.

> > > Therefore stop looking for enlightenment in the charts - it is of

> > no

> > > use.

> > > * Second, there is nothing called 'divisional charts' as per

> > ancient

> > > indian astrology, but only 'divisions' - i.e. Divisions of Sign.

> > > Divisions only modify the results indicated by the natal chart. So

> > > what ever the combination or result be - first, it should be

> > present

> > > there in the natal chart itself. So your so called non-

> > > existent 'divisional charts' becomes irrelevant. (Learn more about

> > > this)

> > > * Third, Astrology is not Hindu, or Christian or Muslim - It is

> > not

> > > bound to any religion. But a search - a search to know how time and

> > > universe influence human destiny. Such a search is universal and so

> > > as astrology.

> > > * Medications: Ask your doctor or an Ayurveda specialist. If

> > you

> > > mean Remedies by the word medications then know that there are two

> > > types of remedies for everything - both complementary; One,

> > Physical

> > > remedy and Two, Divine remedy (Learn more about this)

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > > , " Nickie Scott "

> > > <n.scott@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > What is the correct way to determine the best path to total

> > > enlightenment from the

> > > > individuals birth data? What divisional charts would one look at?

> > > How would we find the

> > > > external or internal yoga's to use? If the individual was not a

> > > Hindu practitioner how would

> > > > we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in

> > the

> > > chart and the teachers

> > > > location and qualities? How would we determine what meditations

> > > would be best for a

> > > > generation of individuals on the planet at this time would be

> > > another question? Taking the

> > > > next full moon as the starting date for the generation in

> > question

> > > and using a ten year time

> > > > period for the generation in question. Any insights would be

> > > greatly appreciated. Thank you.

> > > > Peace and Joy to All.

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you I will take your advise and study the material available in the files section. I definitely do not want to become an obstacle for the group. Thank you for your patience and gentle behavior towards me. If I get in the way of learning or act inconsiderately please let me know immediately. Thank You. Peace. NickieOn Sep 26, 2007, at 9:59 AM, Sreenadh wrote:Dear Nickie ji,Thanks for the good mail. But is it not time that we should goback to astrology? As of your 9th house I think somebody else in this group may answer.There is so many other major threads running in this forum such - * Lagna lord in Various houses* Sign-House-Planet Combinations (Just started)And so on. Please go through the material available in the filessection - it is a good collection. That may spare you from asking manyquestions - and the slow but smooth learning of the group will continue. Love,Sreenadh --- In  , Nickie Jan Scott<n.scott wrote:>> Thank you for your insights. I read your first response last night > before I went to sleep and woke up thinking upon what you wrote to > me. It triggered more questions and I will need to let the things you > wrote take more time to sink in. You are entirely correct in saying > that meditations are not bound by religion. Most religions do seem to > practice some form of meditation. Of the major religions Vedic > scholars have been around for so long developing spiritual life and > methods for liberation from suffering that makes it hard sometimes to > separate the meditation techniques out from the basic culture and > philosophy that they came from. This also makes it hard to share > these teachings with others that are seeking the same goal, freedom > from suffering, union with God, self knowledge etc. etc.. So many > masters have walked before us and applied themselves with great > hardships to attaining the knowledge of liberation from so many > traditions and cultures. It seems tragic sometimes to me that the > methods that they discovered through so much hard work and sometimes > great suffering gets lost in the cultural and religious back drops > and clothing. Especially here in the USA we have so much opportunity > to learn from so many traditions that have spread seeds of light > here. Moving to the core teachings and assimilating the truth without > getting caught in the props and backdrops sometimes become hard. > Integrating the truth without losing the essence seems important. As > I study more about the different cultures and paths to knowledge I am > both impressed by the quality and quantity of knowledge available and > bewildered by the choices sometimes. This makes me want to distill > things down to the essence and look for the simplest and most common > thread between us all. Still though I am fascinated and awed by the > radiance of knowledge that Jyotish has to offer. I also appreciate > more the contributions of people like yourself who have endeavored to > keep this knowledge alive and who are sharing this with those of us > who have some interest.> You have shared here that to look for the Guru indications in the > ninth house which in my Rasi chart is Cancer which is not occupied by > a Graha. The ninth house ruler is in the fifth house another feminine > sign Pisces. The nakshatra of the moon is Uttarabhadrapada. If I > study these and the benefic and malefic aspects on the fifth house > and the moon then would this then give me a clearer picture? Would > ninth house ruler placed in the fifth also transfer Cancer qualities > to the fifth as well?> > Peace and Joy to you. Nickie> On Sep 26, 2007, at 6:52 AM, Sreenadh wrote:> > > Dear Nickie ji,> > On re-reading your mail and my response to your mail, I found that> > I have made some mistakes. Sorry for that.> > ==>> > If the individual was not a Hindu practitioner how would> > we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in the> > chart and the teachers location and qualities? How would we determine> > what meditations would be best for a generation of individuals on the> > planet at this time would be another question?> > <==> > First, I made a mistake of reading the word 'meditations'> > as 'medications'. Sorry for that - I am still an un attentive mind> > which is yet to reach enlightenment. Pardon my mistake. > > Meditations are not related to or bound by any religion. Hindus, Zen> > Masters, Buddhists, Jains, Sufis - all practiced it. Christ was an> > enlightened master as the Gnostic scrolls conveys. Similar to best or> > worst way to enlightenment, there is no best or worst ways to> > meditation. A thousands methods all leading to the same destination -> > whatever technique suits you select that. Meditation essentially> > means 'thoughtless state', i.e. no-mind. To reach the same many> > methods/techniques are suggested by the masters. Select the one which> > suits you. I don't think there would be a particular technique (to> > reach meditative state) that could be advised to 'a generation of> > individuals'. Spirituality is not for the society, but for the> > individual - in the path everyone is alone, the path unique. So there> > could be techniques suitable for the individuals - but not for> > a 'generation of individuals'.> >> > Jumping to the question - Where should we find teacher in the chart?> > The Guru (Master) in the path of spirituality is indicated by the 9th> > house. But better than the 9th house in chart, your heart can tell> > the truth. When you meet him your heart will resonate with him - you> > will feel the tremendous amount of love flowing in between. And that> > is it - your end. Beware - spirituality is a truly hazardous path -> > and the true guru your death; for you the most dangerous individual> > in the world! Beware of him! > > Hope this helps.> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > --- In  , "Sreenadh"> > <sreesog@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Nickie ji,> > > There is no best or worst ways to enlightenment - the path that> > is> > > best suited for an individual depends on the individual itself.> > Even> > > normal daily life can lead to enlightenment.> > > Prior to answering other queries - one important point. Too many> > > wavering queries never gets answered completely. When the wavering> > > diminishes so as the questions. When the questions are few - the> > mind> > > is ripe to receive answers - and the answers goes into details;> > then> > > even the unsaid words starts conveying....> > > Now back to questions -If you are asking 'what chart/divisional> > > chat to look to see a combination indicating enlightenment?', then> > > there are several things to be known at the first instance itself.> > > * First, No chart can indicate enlightenment - it is beyond all> > > bounds. The charts can only indicate 'sanyasa yoga', 'pravirgya> > > yoga', 'avatara yoga' etc - whether all these leads to the ultimate> > > enlightenment or not - that depends on that individuals themselves.> > > Therefore stop looking for enlightenment in the charts - it is of> > no> > > use.> > > * Second, there is nothing called 'divisional charts' as per> > ancient> > > indian astrology, but only 'divisions' - i.e. Divisions of Sign.> > > Divisions only modify the results indicated by the natal chart. So> > > what ever the combination or result be - first, it should be> > present> > > there in the natal chart itself. So your so called non-> > > existent 'divisional charts' becomes irrelevant. (Learn more about> > > this)> > > * Third, Astrology is not Hindu, or Christian or Muslim - It is> > not> > > bound to any religion. But a search - a search to know how time and> > > universe influence human destiny. Such a search is universal and so> > > as astrology.> > > * Medications: Ask your doctor or an Ayurveda specialist. If> > you> > > mean Remedies by the word medications then know that there are two> > > types of remedies for everything - both complementary; One,> > Physical> > > remedy and Two, Divine remedy (Learn more about this)> > > Love,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > --- In  , "Nickie Scott"> > > <n.scott@> wrote:> > > >> > > > What is the correct way to determine the best path to total> > > enlightenment from the> > > > individuals birth data? What divisional charts would one look at?> > > How would we find the> > > > external or internal yoga's to use? If the individual was not a> > > Hindu practitioner how would> > > > we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher in> > the> > > chart and the teachers> > > > location and qualities? How would we determine what meditations> > > would be best for a> > > > generation of individuals on the planet at this time would be> > > another question? Taking the> > > > next full moon as the starting date for the generation in> > question> > > and using a ten year time> > > > period for the generation in question. Any insights would be> > > greatly appreciated. Thank you.> > > > Peace and Joy to All.> > > >> > >> >> >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Nickie ji,

==>

> If I get in the way of learning or act inconsiderately please let

> me know immediately.

<==

It is not like that. This group is entirely different from all the

other groups of indian astrology. For example -

* It does not appreciate free chart reading requests and

consultation or advertisement in the group.

* It tries to learn every subject discussed based on available

ancient classics of astrology - especially texts by sages.

* It is trying to re-create the beauty and completeness of this

ancient branch of knowledge from the available fragmented information.

* Many of the members have excelled in such research approaches and

put their mark already through published works and articles.

* Rather than a group for teaching the beginners it is a platform

for interaction among the people with uniqueness and abundant

knowledge gained through their own effort sitting in different parts

of the world. (Rather it is the way we want it to be)

* It is doing a systematic search after the system of approach of

astrology, and the basics (Conceptual, Astronomical, Psychological,

Philosophical).

Thus going through the files section will make you familiar with

what this group is doing and in what direction it wants to progress.

Please take it positively - like any other learned member, you are

helping us by sharing your knowledge.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, Nickie Jan Scott

<n.scott wrote:

>

> Thank you I will take your advise and study the material available

in

> the files section. I definitely do not want to become an obstacle

for

> the group. Thank you for your patience and gentle behavior towards

> me. If I get in the way of learning or act inconsiderately please

let

> me know immediately. Thank You. Peace. Nickie

> On Sep 26, 2007, at 9:59 AM, Sreenadh wrote:

>

> > Dear Nickie ji,

> > Thanks for the good mail. But is it not time that we should go

> > back to astrology?

> > As of your 9th house I think somebody else in this group may

answer.

> > There is so many other major threads running in this forum such -

> > * Lagna lord in Various houses

> > * Sign-House-Planet Combinations (Just started)

> > And so on. Please go through the material available in the files

> > section - it is a good collection. That may spare you from asking

many

> > questions - and the slow but smooth learning of the group will

> > continue.

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , Nickie Jan Scott

> > <n.scott@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Thank you for your insights. I read your first response last

night

> > > before I went to sleep and woke up thinking upon what you wrote

to

> > > me. It triggered more questions and I will need to let the

things

> > you

> > > wrote take more time to sink in. You are entirely correct in

saying

> > > that meditations are not bound by religion. Most religions do

> > seem to

> > > practice some form of meditation. Of the major religions Vedic

> > > scholars have been around for so long developing spiritual life

and

> > > methods for liberation from suffering that makes it hard

> > sometimes to

> > > separate the meditation techniques out from the basic culture

and

> > > philosophy that they came from. This also makes it hard to share

> > > these teachings with others that are seeking the same goal,

freedom

> > > from suffering, union with God, self knowledge etc. etc.. So

many

> > > masters have walked before us and applied themselves with great

> > > hardships to attaining the knowledge of liberation from so many

> > > traditions and cultures. It seems tragic sometimes to me that

the

> > > methods that they discovered through so much hard work and

sometimes

> > > great suffering gets lost in the cultural and religious back

drops

> > > and clothing. Especially here in the USA we have so much

opportunity

> > > to learn from so many traditions that have spread seeds of light

> > > here. Moving to the core teachings and assimilating the truth

> > without

> > > getting caught in the props and backdrops sometimes become hard.

> > > Integrating the truth without losing the essence seems

important. As

> > > I study more about the different cultures and paths to

knowledge

> > I am

> > > both impressed by the quality and quantity of knowledge

available

> > and

> > > bewildered by the choices sometimes. This makes me want to

distill

> > > things down to the essence and look for the simplest and most

common

> > > thread between us all. Still though I am fascinated and awed by

the

> > > radiance of knowledge that Jyotish has to offer. I also

appreciate

> > > more the contributions of people like yourself who have

> > endeavored to

> > > keep this knowledge alive and who are sharing this with those

of us

> > > who have some interest.

> > > You have shared here that to look for the Guru indications in

the

> > > ninth house which in my Rasi chart is Cancer which is not

> > occupied by

> > > a Graha. The ninth house ruler is in the fifth house another

> > feminine

> > > sign Pisces. The nakshatra of the moon is Uttarabhadrapada. If I

> > > study these and the benefic and malefic aspects on the fifth

house

> > > and the moon then would this then give me a clearer picture?

Would

> > > ninth house ruler placed in the fifth also transfer Cancer

qualities

> > > to the fifth as well?

> > >

> > > Peace and Joy to you. Nickie

> > > On Sep 26, 2007, at 6:52 AM, Sreenadh wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Nickie ji,

> > > > On re-reading your mail and my response to your mail, I found

that

> > > > I have made some mistakes. Sorry for that.

> > > > ==>

> > > > If the individual was not a Hindu practitioner how would

> > > > we find correct meditations? Where would we find the teacher

in

> > the

> > > > chart and the teachers location and qualities? How would we

> > determine

> > > > what meditations would be best for a generation of

individuals

> > on the

> > > > planet at this time would be another question?

> > > > <==

> > > > First, I made a mistake of reading the word 'meditations'

> > > > as 'medications'. Sorry for that - I am still an un attentive

mind

> > > > which is yet to reach enlightenment. Pardon my mistake.

> > > > Meditations are not related to or bound by any religion.

> > Hindus, Zen

> > > > Masters, Buddhists, Jains, Sufis - all practiced it. Christ

was an

> > > > enlightened master as the Gnostic scrolls conveys. Similar

to

> > best or

> > > > worst way to enlightenment, there is no best or worst ways to

> > > > meditation. A thousands methods all leading to the same

> > destination -

> > > > whatever technique suits you select that. Meditation

essentially

> > > > means 'thoughtless state', i.e. no-mind. To reach the same

many

> > > > methods/techniques are suggested by the masters. Select the

one

> > which

> > > > suits you. I don't think there would be a particular

technique (to

> > > > reach meditative state) that could be advised to 'a

generation of

> > > > individuals'. Spirituality is not for the society, but for the

> > > > individual - in the path everyone is alone, the path unique.

So

> > there

> > > > could be techniques suitable for the individuals - but not for

> > > > a 'generation of individuals'.

> > > >

> > > > Jumping to the question - Where should we find teacher in

the

> > chart?

> > > > The Guru (Master) in the path of spirituality is indicated

by

> > the 9th

> > > > house. But better than the 9th house in chart, your heart can

tell

> > > > the truth. When you meet him your heart will resonate with

him

> > - you

> > > > will feel the tremendous amount of love flowing in between.

And

> > that

> > > > is it - your end. Beware - spirituality is a truly hazardous

> > path -

> > > > and the true guru your death; for you the most dangerous

> > individual

> > > > in the world! Beware of him!

> > > > Hope this helps.

> > > > Love,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > >

> > > > , " Sreenadh "

> > > > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Nickie ji,

> > > > > There is no best or worst ways to enlightenment - the path

that

> > > > is

> > > > > best suited for an individual depends on the individual

itself.

> > > > Even

> > > > > normal daily life can lead to enlightenment.

> > > > > Prior to answering other queries - one important point. Too

many

> > > > > wavering queries never gets answered completely. When the

> > wavering

> > > > > diminishes so as the questions. When the questions are few -

the

> > > > mind

> > > > > is ripe to receive answers - and the answers goes into

details;

> > > > then

> > > > > even the unsaid words starts conveying....

> > > > > Now back to questions -If you are asking 'what

chart/divisional

> > > > > chat to look to see a combination indicating

enlightenment?',

> > then

> > > > > there are several things to be known at the first instance

> > itself.

> > > > > * First, No chart can indicate enlightenment - it is beyond

all

> > > > > bounds. The charts can only indicate 'sanyasa

yoga', 'pravirgya

> > > > > yoga', 'avatara yoga' etc - whether all these leads to the

> > ultimate

> > > > > enlightenment or not - that depends on that individuals

> > themselves.

> > > > > Therefore stop looking for enlightenment in the charts -

it

> > is of

> > > > no

> > > > > use.

> > > > > * Second, there is nothing called 'divisional charts' as per

> > > > ancient

> > > > > indian astrology, but only 'divisions' - i.e. Divisions of

Sign.

> > > > > Divisions only modify the results indicated by the natal

> > chart. So

> > > > > what ever the combination or result be - first, it should be

> > > > present

> > > > > there in the natal chart itself. So your so called non-

> > > > > existent 'divisional charts' becomes irrelevant. (Learn

more

> > about

> > > > > this)

> > > > > * Third, Astrology is not Hindu, or Christian or Muslim -

It is

> > > > not

> > > > > bound to any religion. But a search - a search to know how

> > time and

> > > > > universe influence human destiny. Such a search is

universal

> > and so

> > > > > as astrology.

> > > > > * Medications: Ask your doctor or an Ayurveda

specialist. If

> > > > you

> > > > > mean Remedies by the word medications then know that there

> > are two

> > > > > types of remedies for everything - both complementary; One,

> > > > Physical

> > > > > remedy and Two, Divine remedy (Learn more about this)

> > > > > Love,

> > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Nickie

Scott "

> > > > > <n.scott@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What is the correct way to determine the best path to

total

> > > > > enlightenment from the

> > > > > > individuals birth data? What divisional charts would one

> > look at?

> > > > > How would we find the

> > > > > > external or internal yoga's to use? If the individual

was

> > not a

> > > > > Hindu practitioner how would

> > > > > > we find correct meditations? Where would we find the

> > teacher in

> > > > the

> > > > > chart and the teachers

> > > > > > location and qualities? How would we determine what

> > meditations

> > > > > would be best for a

> > > > > > generation of individuals on the planet at this time

would be

> > > > > another question? Taking the

> > > > > > next full moon as the starting date for the generation in

> > > > question

> > > > > and using a ten year time

> > > > > > period for the generation in question. Any insights would

be

> > > > > greatly appreciated. Thank you.

> > > > > > Peace and Joy to All.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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