Guest guest Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Dear All, Here is the intial info for sharing our views about 'Lagna lord in 10th house. Let us start - ============================================= Lagna lord in 10th House --- If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected or rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and position. He will earn much money with his own effort and will become very popular individual respected for his capabilities. He will get much happiness from his father and mother. He will have - many bothers, high sexual urges, life loving nature, good qualities and beauty. He would be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, father and mother and live like a king with good wealth. If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected and rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and position. He will earn much money with his own effort and will become very popular individual (respected for his capabilities). - Parasara Hora Prestige, popularity and respect are signified by 10th house. It is area of the zodiac that is just above our head - the highest point, and is in the visible area of the sky. No wonder, lagna lord in 10th will make the native a much respectable individual, respected or rewarded even by the king, the government or people in power. Lagna lord in 10th means, the native is in his highest position of exaltation in social life, excellently using his capabilities to the maximum extend. Thus the derivation - he will earn much money with his own effort. As mentioned earlier popularity is signified by 10th house itself. Thus the above sloka simply attributes the qualities signified by 10th house on the native - to derive the results. Rule 9: The significance of the house reflects through the house lord (e.g. Lagna lord) placed in any house. i.e. To derive the result, try associating the significance of the house with the individual or thing signified by the house lord. It is the above rule that makes the native intelligent if lagna lord is placed in 5th, makes the native simple minded and loving if lagna is in 4th, makes the native popular and wealthy if lagna lord is in 10th. Another version of this sloka of sage Parasara is also available, which is given below- If the lagna lord is in 4th or 10th house, the native will get much happiness from his father and mother. He will have many bothers. He will have - high sexual urges, life loving nature, good qualities and beauty. - Parasara Hora It is discussed earlier itself (while discussing 4th and 9th house) that, as per Parasara 10th house signify father. That is why in the above sloka it is said that, `if lagna lord is in 10th house the native will get much happiness from father'. Of course any planet in 10th aspects 4th house and that is why `happiness from mother' as well. This helps us to locate one more rule. Rule 10: Lagna lord gives beneficial results to any house that it aspects. The reason for `having many brothers' is also discussed while discussing 4th house. All the other results in the above sloka is derived, as if lagna lord is placed in 4th, since from 10th it aspects 4th house. Of course life-loving nature (4th) combined with excellence in job (10th) is sure to give good results such as mental peace and public respect. Rule 11: The aspect gives results similar to placement. Both can be interchanged while trying to derive, more and more results, from the combinations present in the natal chart. Use this rule, anywhere when you feel that it is getting difficult to derive more and more results - certainly this makes the result derivation an easier task by providing more possibilities. If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. He would be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, father and mother and live like a king with good wealth. - Meenaraja Hora Any person in highest position and power is signified by 10th house and so naturally it signifies king or government. Lagna lord is in 10th, indicating a mutual beneficial association between the government and the native. That is why the derivation - `he will get help (award, promotion or monetary help) from the government'. Scholarship is a quality associated with 9th house. 10th is 2nd house from 9th. Presence of lagna lord there provides beneficial results for 10th. From earlier discussion we know `The 2nd house from any house strengthens the effects of the house prior to it'. Thus naturally lagna lord in 10th increases the qualities of 9th, one of which happens to be scholarship. That is why it is said that the native would be a scholar. 9th is strengthened - that is why guru is respected. Both 10th and 4th benefits from the placement of lagna lord in 10th, and that is why it is said that `he will respect his father and mother', respect being a quality imparted to native through the 10th house. In his high position and finest exposition of excellence (10th house - mid heaven), the native is natural to live like a king with good wealth - and thus the derivation. Horapradeepa gives another version of the above sloka. If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. He would be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, father and mother. He would be an individual who is popular like a king. - Hora Pradeepam The only difference this sloka has is that it gives more importance to the popularity gained by the native, a quality of 10th house. The 10th house signifies things such as - power, position, popularity, public respect, job, fame, father, kingly wealth and prestige, expertise in things, excellence in job etc. Thus the placement of lagna lord in 10th generates special importance to the derivations related to the same. - by Sreenadh (sreesog) ============================================= Love, Sreenadh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Dear Sreenadh ji, You are doing a great service by explaining the basics relevant to Lagna Lords placed in various houses as per ancient classics and thereby opening the door for discussions. The cuase-effect system of analysis makes it easier to remember the principles and sensible too..thank you! Now a question regarding 10H and LL. Many nice things are promised when LL is in 10H. Are all these applicable to Gemini Lagna too, since LL Mercury gets debilitated in 10H, Pisces? blessings Renu , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > > Dear All, > > Here is the intial info for sharing our views about 'Lagna lord in > 10th house. Let us start - > > ============================================= > Lagna lord in 10th House > --- > > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected or > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and position. > He will earn much money with his own effort and will become very popular > individual respected for his capabilities. He will get much happiness > from his father and mother. He will have - many bothers, high sexual > urges, life loving nature, good qualities and beauty. He would be a > scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, father and > mother and live like a king with good wealth. > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected and > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and position. > He will earn much money with his own effort and will become very popular > individual (respected for his capabilities). > > - Parasara Hora > > Prestige, popularity and respect are signified by 10th house. It is area > of the zodiac that is just above our head - the highest point, and is in > the visible area of the sky. No wonder, lagna lord in 10th will make the > native a much respectable individual, respected or rewarded even by the > king, the government or people in power. Lagna lord in 10th means, the > native is in his highest position of exaltation in social life, > excellently using his capabilities to the maximum extend. Thus the > derivation - he will earn much money with his own effort. As mentioned > earlier popularity is signified by 10th house itself. Thus the above > sloka simply attributes the qualities signified by 10th house on the > native - to derive the results. > > Rule 9: The significance of the house reflects through the house lord > (e.g. Lagna lord) placed in any house. i.e. To derive the result, try > associating the significance of the house with the individual or thing > signified by the house lord. > > It is the above rule that makes the native intelligent if lagna lord is > placed in 5th, makes the native simple minded and loving if lagna is in > 4th, makes the native popular and wealthy if lagna lord is in 10th. > > Another version of this sloka of sage Parasara is also available, which > is given below- > > If the lagna lord is in 4th or 10th house, the native will get much > happiness from his father and mother. He will have many bothers. He will > have - high sexual urges, life loving nature, good qualities and beauty. > > - Parasara Hora > > It is discussed earlier itself (while discussing 4th and 9th house) > that, as per Parasara 10th house signify father. That is why in the > above sloka it is said that, `if lagna lord is in 10th house the > native will get much happiness from father'. Of course any planet in > 10th aspects 4th house and that is why `happiness from mother' > as well. This helps us to locate one more rule. > > Rule 10: Lagna lord gives beneficial results to any house that it > aspects. > > The reason for `having many brothers' is also discussed while > discussing 4th house. All the other results in the above sloka is > derived, as if lagna lord is placed in 4th, since from 10th it aspects > 4th house. Of course life-loving nature (4th) combined with excellence > in job (10th) is sure to give good results such as mental peace and > public respect. > > Rule 11: The aspect gives results similar to placement. Both can be > interchanged while trying to derive, more and more results, from the > combinations present in the natal chart. > > Use this rule, anywhere when you feel that it is getting difficult to > derive more and more results - certainly this makes the result > derivation an easier task by providing more possibilities. > > If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. He would > be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, father and > mother and live like a king with good wealth. > > - Meenaraja Hora > > Any person in highest position and power is signified by 10th house and > so naturally it signifies king or government. Lagna lord is in 10th, > indicating a mutual beneficial association between the government and > the native. That is why the derivation - `he will get help (award, > promotion or monetary help) from the government'. Scholarship is a > quality associated with 9th house. 10th is 2nd house from 9th. Presence > of lagna lord there provides beneficial results for 10th. From earlier > discussion we know `The 2nd house from any house strengthens the > effects of the house prior to it'. Thus naturally lagna lord in 10th > increases the qualities of 9th, one of which happens to be scholarship. > That is why it is said that the native would be a scholar. 9th is > strengthened - that is why guru is respected. Both 10th and 4th benefits > from the placement of lagna lord in 10th, and that is why it is said > that `he will respect his father and mother', respect being a > quality imparted to native through the 10th house. In his high position > and finest exposition of excellence (10th house - mid heaven), the > native is natural to live like a king with good wealth - and thus the > derivation. Horapradeepa gives another version of the above sloka. > > If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. He would > be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, father and > mother. He would be an individual who is popular like a king. > > - Hora Pradeepam > > The only difference this sloka has is that it gives more importance to > the popularity gained by the native, a quality of 10th house. > > The 10th house signifies things such as - power, position, popularity, > public respect, job, fame, father, kingly wealth and prestige, expertise > in things, excellence in job etc. Thus the placement of lagna lord in > 10th generates special importance to the derivations related to the > same. > > - by Sreenadh (sreesog) > > ============================================= > Love, > Sreenadh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Dear Renu ji, Thanks. ==> > Now a question regarding 10H and LL. Many nice things are promised > when LL is in 10H. Are all these applicable to Gemini Lagna too, > since LL Mercury gets debilitated in 10H, Pisces? <== Yes, they are - but the results will get a bit modified, and even though the same good results, its amount won't be as much. But this 'modification of results' caused by 'Sign-Planet' combination should not be considered here because here we are exclusively dealing with 'House' alone. An astrologer who is aware of both - * House Base results (Eg. LL in 10th house) & * Sign-House Base results (Eg. Me in Pi) can easily see these modifications. But for the learner, the only way for systematic study is to learn these two things separately. Love, Sreenadh , " renunw " <renunw wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > You are doing a great service by explaining the basics relevant to > Lagna Lords placed in various houses as per ancient classics and > thereby opening the door for discussions. The cuase-effect system of > analysis makes it easier to remember the principles and sensible > too..thank you! > > Now a question regarding 10H and LL. Many nice things are promised > when LL is in 10H. Are all these applicable to Gemini Lagna too, > since LL Mercury gets debilitated in 10H, Pisces? > > blessings > > Renu > > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > Here is the intial info for sharing our views about 'Lagna > lord in > > 10th house. Let us start - > > > > ============================================= > > Lagna lord in 10th House > > --- > > > > > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected or > > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and > position. > > He will earn much money with his own effort and will become very > popular > > individual respected for his capabilities. He will get much > happiness > > from his father and mother. He will have - many bothers, high > sexual > > urges, life loving nature, good qualities and beauty. He would be a > > scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, father and > > mother and live like a king with good wealth. > > > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected and > > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and > position. > > He will earn much money with his own effort and will become very > popular > > individual (respected for his capabilities). > > > > - Parasara Hora > > > > Prestige, popularity and respect are signified by 10th house. It > is area > > of the zodiac that is just above our head - the highest point, and > is in > > the visible area of the sky. No wonder, lagna lord in 10th will > make the > > native a much respectable individual, respected or rewarded even > by the > > king, the government or people in power. Lagna lord in 10th means, > the > > native is in his highest position of exaltation in social life, > > excellently using his capabilities to the maximum extend. Thus the > > derivation - he will earn much money with his own effort. As > mentioned > > earlier popularity is signified by 10th house itself. Thus the > above > > sloka simply attributes the qualities signified by 10th house on > the > > native - to derive the results. > > > > Rule 9: The significance of the house reflects through the house > lord > > (e.g. Lagna lord) placed in any house. i.e. To derive the result, > try > > associating the significance of the house with the individual or > thing > > signified by the house lord. > > > > It is the above rule that makes the native intelligent if lagna > lord is > > placed in 5th, makes the native simple minded and loving if lagna > is in > > 4th, makes the native popular and wealthy if lagna lord is in 10th. > > > > Another version of this sloka of sage Parasara is also available, > which > > is given below- > > > > If the lagna lord is in 4th or 10th house, the native will get much > > happiness from his father and mother. He will have many bothers. > He will > > have - high sexual urges, life loving nature, good qualities and > beauty. > > > > - Parasara Hora > > > > It is discussed earlier itself (while discussing 4th and 9th house) > > that, as per Parasara 10th house signify father. That is why in the > > above sloka it is said that, `if lagna lord is in 10th house the > > native will get much happiness from father'. Of course any planet > in > > 10th aspects 4th house and that is why `happiness from mother' > > as well. This helps us to locate one more rule. > > > > Rule 10: Lagna lord gives beneficial results to any house that it > > aspects. > > > > The reason for `having many brothers' is also discussed while > > discussing 4th house. All the other results in the above sloka is > > derived, as if lagna lord is placed in 4th, since from 10th it > aspects > > 4th house. Of course life-loving nature (4th) combined with > excellence > > in job (10th) is sure to give good results such as mental peace and > > public respect. > > > > Rule 11: The aspect gives results similar to placement. Both can be > > interchanged while trying to derive, more and more results, from > the > > combinations present in the natal chart. > > > > Use this rule, anywhere when you feel that it is getting difficult > to > > derive more and more results - certainly this makes the result > > derivation an easier task by providing more possibilities. > > > > If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. He > would > > be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, > father and > > mother and live like a king with good wealth. > > > > - Meenaraja Hora > > > > Any person in highest position and power is signified by 10th > house and > > so naturally it signifies king or government. Lagna lord is in > 10th, > > indicating a mutual beneficial association between the government > and > > the native. That is why the derivation - `he will get help (award, > > promotion or monetary help) from the government'. Scholarship is a > > quality associated with 9th house. 10th is 2nd house from 9th. > Presence > > of lagna lord there provides beneficial results for 10th. From > earlier > > discussion we know `The 2nd house from any house strengthens the > > effects of the house prior to it'. Thus naturally lagna lord in > 10th > > increases the qualities of 9th, one of which happens to be > scholarship. > > That is why it is said that the native would be a scholar. 9th is > > strengthened - that is why guru is respected. Both 10th and 4th > benefits > > from the placement of lagna lord in 10th, and that is why it is > said > > that `he will respect his father and mother', respect being a > > quality imparted to native through the 10th house. In his high > position > > and finest exposition of excellence (10th house - mid heaven), the > > native is natural to live like a king with good wealth - and thus > the > > derivation. Horapradeepa gives another version of the above sloka. > > > > If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. He > would > > be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, > father and > > mother. He would be an individual who is popular like a king. > > > > - Hora Pradeepam > > > > The only difference this sloka has is that it gives more > importance to > > the popularity gained by the native, a quality of 10th house. > > > > The 10th house signifies things such as - power, position, > popularity, > > public respect, job, fame, father, kingly wealth and prestige, > expertise > > in things, excellence in job etc. Thus the placement of lagna lord > in > > 10th generates special importance to the derivations related to the > > same. > > > > - by Sreenadh (sreesog@) > > > > ============================================= > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Dear Sreenadh ji, Thanks and I do understand that you have reminded many a times that we are dealing with " House alone " principle right now. Yes, it is a good approach for beginners like us. Yet, on previous occassions..especially with regard to 5th House, the following reasoning was presented. " 1) Aries lagna, lagna lord Mars in Leo: Yes, Leo is a sign > > > signifying > > > > less children, and Mars a malefic in it can indicate loss of > > child > > > for > > > > sure. > > > > > > > > 2) Taurus lagna, lagna lord Venus in Virgo: Virgo is the > > > debilitation > > > > sign for Venus. Also not that Venus owns the lordship of 6th > > house .....so on and so forth.... I presume this goes beyond " house alone " analysis. In fact that was a fine presentation by you, which indeed explained ... " loss of child " ...concept quite reasonably. You tried to explain the cause for " losss of child " ...when LL is placed in 5H. Similarly, wouldn't it be better to reason out the cause for consequences of LL being in 10th House? For many signs it is self explanatory. If we take the 1st sign... Aries..........Mars gets exalted in 10H and the last sign Pisces.....Jupiter in 10H is in the Mooltrikona/own House...and the signs in-between these 2 signs will tell similar or slightly different stories. But since Mercury gets debilitated ...I posted my query...I expected a detailed answer ..remembering your logical approach to LL in 5H analysis. blessings Renu " 1) Aries lagna, lagna lord Mars in Leo: Yes, Leo is a sign > > > signifying > > > > less children, and Mars a malefic in it can indicate loss of > > child > > > for > > > > sure. > > > > > > > > 2) Taurus lagna, lagna lord Venus in Virgo: Virgo is the > > > debilitation > > > > sign for Venus. Also not that Venus owns the lordship of 6th > > house > > > as > > > > well. Thus for sure for Taurus lagna Venus in 5th can indicate > > loss > > > of > > > > child for sure. > > > > > > > > 3) Gemini lagna, lagna lord Me in Libra: Note that Venus the > lord > > of > > > > Libra owns the 12th house (house indicating death) as well. > > > Possibly the > > > > combination can indicate loss or death. > > > > > > > > 4) Cancer lagna, Moon in Scorpio: Scorpio is the debilitation > > sign > > > for > > > > Moon. Ofcourse the same can indicate the loss of child. > > > > > > > > 5) Leo lagna, Sun in Sagittarius: Note that the lord of > > Sagittarius > > > > Jupiter owns the 8th house (death) as well. Thus certainly the > > > > combination can indicate the loss or death of child. > > > > > > > > 6) Virgo lagna, Me in Capricorn: The lord of Capricorn Saturn > > owns > > > the > > > > 6th house as well. Possibly the combination can indicate bad > > results > > > > such as loss of child - amended by the fact that both Mercury > and > > > Saturn > > > > are imbecile planets. > > > > > > > > 7) Libra lagna, Venus in Aquarius: Note that lagna lord Venus > is > > > also > > > > the 8th lord. Certainly 8th lord is a malefic, and a malefic > > placed > > > in > > > > 5th can indicate lose of child. > > > > > > > > If you continue this analysis, you could see that for most of > the > > 12 , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Renu ji, > Thanks. > ==> > > Now a question regarding 10H and LL. Many nice things are promised > > when LL is in 10H. Are all these applicable to Gemini Lagna too, > > since LL Mercury gets debilitated in 10H, Pisces? > <== > Yes, they are - but the results will get a bit modified, and even > though the same good results, its amount won't be as much. But > this 'modification of results' caused by 'Sign-Planet' combination > should not be considered here because here we are exclusively dealing > with 'House' alone. > An astrologer who is aware of both - > * House Base results (Eg. LL in 10th house) & > * Sign-House Base results (Eg. Me in Pi) > can easily see these modifications. But for the learner, the only > way for systematic study is to learn these two things separately. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " renunw " > <renunw@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > You are doing a great service by explaining the basics relevant to > > Lagna Lords placed in various houses as per ancient classics and > > thereby opening the door for discussions. The cuase-effect system > of > > analysis makes it easier to remember the principles and sensible > > too..thank you! > > > > Now a question regarding 10H and LL. Many nice things are promised > > when LL is in 10H. Are all these applicable to Gemini Lagna too, > > since LL Mercury gets debilitated in 10H, Pisces? > > > > blessings > > > > Renu > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > Here is the intial info for sharing our views about 'Lagna > > lord in > > > 10th house. Let us start - > > > > > > ============================================= > > > Lagna lord in 10th House > > > --- > > > > > > > > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected or > > > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and > > position. > > > He will earn much money with his own effort and will become very > > popular > > > individual respected for his capabilities. He will get much > > happiness > > > from his father and mother. He will have - many bothers, high > > sexual > > > urges, life loving nature, good qualities and beauty. He would be > a > > > scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, father and > > > mother and live like a king with good wealth. > > > > > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected and > > > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and > > position. > > > He will earn much money with his own effort and will become very > > popular > > > individual (respected for his capabilities). > > > > > > - Parasara Hora > > > > > > Prestige, popularity and respect are signified by 10th house. It > > is area > > > of the zodiac that is just above our head - the highest point, > and > > is in > > > the visible area of the sky. No wonder, lagna lord in 10th will > > make the > > > native a much respectable individual, respected or rewarded even > > by the > > > king, the government or people in power. Lagna lord in 10th > means, > > the > > > native is in his highest position of exaltation in social life, > > > excellently using his capabilities to the maximum extend. Thus the > > > derivation - he will earn much money with his own effort. As > > mentioned > > > earlier popularity is signified by 10th house itself. Thus the > > above > > > sloka simply attributes the qualities signified by 10th house on > > the > > > native - to derive the results. > > > > > > Rule 9: The significance of the house reflects through the house > > lord > > > (e.g. Lagna lord) placed in any house. i.e. To derive the result, > > try > > > associating the significance of the house with the individual or > > thing > > > signified by the house lord. > > > > > > It is the above rule that makes the native intelligent if lagna > > lord is > > > placed in 5th, makes the native simple minded and loving if lagna > > is in > > > 4th, makes the native popular and wealthy if lagna lord is in > 10th. > > > > > > Another version of this sloka of sage Parasara is also available, > > which > > > is given below- > > > > > > If the lagna lord is in 4th or 10th house, the native will get > much > > > happiness from his father and mother. He will have many bothers. > > He will > > > have - high sexual urges, life loving nature, good qualities and > > beauty. > > > > > > - Parasara Hora > > > > > > It is discussed earlier itself (while discussing 4th and 9th > house) > > > that, as per Parasara 10th house signify father. That is why in > the > > > above sloka it is said that, `if lagna lord is in 10th house the > > > native will get much happiness from father'. Of course any planet > > in > > > 10th aspects 4th house and that is why `happiness from mother' > > > as well. This helps us to locate one more rule. > > > > > > Rule 10: Lagna lord gives beneficial results to any house that it > > > aspects. > > > > > > The reason for `having many brothers' is also discussed while > > > discussing 4th house. All the other results in the above sloka is > > > derived, as if lagna lord is placed in 4th, since from 10th it > > aspects > > > 4th house. Of course life-loving nature (4th) combined with > > excellence > > > in job (10th) is sure to give good results such as mental peace > and > > > public respect. > > > > > > Rule 11: The aspect gives results similar to placement. Both can > be > > > interchanged while trying to derive, more and more results, from > > the > > > combinations present in the natal chart. > > > > > > Use this rule, anywhere when you feel that it is getting > difficult > > to > > > derive more and more results - certainly this makes the result > > > derivation an easier task by providing more possibilities. > > > > > > If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. He > > would > > > be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, > > father and > > > mother and live like a king with good wealth. > > > > > > - Meenaraja Hora > > > > > > Any person in highest position and power is signified by 10th > > house and > > > so naturally it signifies king or government. Lagna lord is in > > 10th, > > > indicating a mutual beneficial association between the government > > and > > > the native. That is why the derivation - `he will get help (award, > > > promotion or monetary help) from the government'. Scholarship is a > > > quality associated with 9th house. 10th is 2nd house from 9th. > > Presence > > > of lagna lord there provides beneficial results for 10th. From > > earlier > > > discussion we know `The 2nd house from any house strengthens the > > > effects of the house prior to it'. Thus naturally lagna lord in > > 10th > > > increases the qualities of 9th, one of which happens to be > > scholarship. > > > That is why it is said that the native would be a scholar. 9th is > > > strengthened - that is why guru is respected. Both 10th and 4th > > benefits > > > from the placement of lagna lord in 10th, and that is why it is > > said > > > that `he will respect his father and mother', respect being a > > > quality imparted to native through the 10th house. In his high > > position > > > and finest exposition of excellence (10th house - mid heaven), the > > > native is natural to live like a king with good wealth - and thus > > the > > > derivation. Horapradeepa gives another version of the above sloka. > > > > > > If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. He > > would > > > be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, > > father and > > > mother. He would be an individual who is popular like a king. > > > > > > - Hora Pradeepam > > > > > > The only difference this sloka has is that it gives more > > importance to > > > the popularity gained by the native, a quality of 10th house. > > > > > > The 10th house signifies things such as - power, position, > > popularity, > > > public respect, job, fame, father, kingly wealth and prestige, > > expertise > > > in things, excellence in job etc. Thus the placement of lagna > lord > > in > > > 10th generates special importance to the derivations related to > the > > > same. > > > > > > - by Sreenadh (sreesog@) > > > > > > ============================================= > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Dear Renu ji, You are right - but not that 'a single brick does not make a house' Since you the logic I applied you can it apply anywhere you like, as the context permits. If I am going to the extend of considering the placement of lords in every sign (similar to I did for 5th house, which was due a special reason - i.e. Parasara crossed the limits of 'House Base' in that instance) the articles will be come too long and incomprehensible. Too much details makes the brain dull. First, we don't need it as of now I think; Anyone can apply such logic themselves since the trick is already known. Third, and most importantly, you must have noticed that a unique and stronger brick was supplied by Sunil ji, right now - which needs to be understood in detail; and so attention should shift to that. For example he told us that LL lord in 10th is similar to Mars (LL of Kalapurusha's chart starting from Aries) in 10th (Capricorn). Note that Mars gets exalted in 10th and gives good results - naturally LL in 10th also should give good results (irrespective of power gained by placement). We have a chance to consider all these exaltation, debilitation etc and to understand how they affect the results - i.e. when we discuss " Sign Base " in detail.. Wait for that. Note that we have 2 major sections (Planet Base & House Base) still pending and we need to move on fast to at least touch all areas. Why the hurry? Note that the highest number of votes is gained for " Discussing Divisions " in the Poll.. If not we finish this 7-fold fast enough, how can we do that? So let us move on and some of the gaps we will as we move on... But still except the core concepts almost 90% of astrology won't be dealt within this group. For example we discussed Aries Lagna (For Sign-House Base): Then neglected all the 11 possible Lagna! The we discussed Sun in all the houses (For House-Planet Base): Then ignored all the other planets in various houses!! Now we discuss LL in various houses (For House Base): Then and there itself we will wind up and move on to Planet Base.. That is simply a strategy... Love, Sreenadh , " renunw " <renunw wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > Thanks and I do understand that you have reminded many a times that > we are dealing with " House alone " principle right now. Yes, it is a > good approach for beginners like us. > > Yet, on previous occassions..especially with regard to 5th House, > the following reasoning was presented. > > " 1) Aries lagna, lagna lord Mars in Leo: Yes, Leo is a sign > > > > signifying > > > > > less children, and Mars a malefic in it can indicate loss of > > > child > > > > for > > > > > sure. > > > > > > > > > > 2) Taurus lagna, lagna lord Venus in Virgo: Virgo is the > > > > debilitation > > > > > sign for Venus. Also not that Venus owns the lordship of 6th > > > house > > ....so on and so forth.... > > I presume this goes beyond " house alone " analysis. In fact that was > a fine presentation by you, which indeed explained ... " loss of > child " ...concept quite reasonably. You tried to explain the cause > for " losss of child " ...when LL is placed in 5H. > > Similarly, wouldn't it be better to reason out the cause for > consequences of LL being in 10th House? For many signs it is self > explanatory. If we take the 1st sign... > Aries..........Mars gets exalted in 10H > and the last sign Pisces.....Jupiter in 10H is in the > Mooltrikona/own House...and the signs in-between these 2 signs will > tell similar or slightly different stories. > > But since Mercury gets debilitated ...I posted my query...I expected > a detailed answer ..remembering your logical approach to LL in 5H > analysis. > > blessings > > Renu > " 1) Aries lagna, lagna lord Mars in Leo: Yes, Leo is a sign > > > > signifying > > > > > less children, and Mars a malefic in it can indicate loss of > > > child > > > > for > > > > > sure. > > > > > > > > > > 2) Taurus lagna, lagna lord Venus in Virgo: Virgo is the > > > > debilitation > > > > > sign for Venus. Also not that Venus owns the lordship of 6th > > > house > > > > as > > > > > well. Thus for sure for Taurus lagna Venus in 5th can > indicate > > > loss > > > > of > > > > > child for sure. > > > > > > > > > > 3) Gemini lagna, lagna lord Me in Libra: Note that Venus the > > lord > > > of > > > > > Libra owns the 12th house (house indicating death) as well. > > > > Possibly the > > > > > combination can indicate loss or death. > > > > > > > > > > 4) Cancer lagna, Moon in Scorpio: Scorpio is the debilitation > > > sign > > > > for > > > > > Moon. Ofcourse the same can indicate the loss of child. > > > > > > > > > > 5) Leo lagna, Sun in Sagittarius: Note that the lord of > > > Sagittarius > > > > > Jupiter owns the 8th house (death) as well. Thus certainly > the > > > > > combination can indicate the loss or death of child. > > > > > > > > > > 6) Virgo lagna, Me in Capricorn: The lord of Capricorn Saturn > > > owns > > > > the > > > > > 6th house as well. Possibly the combination can indicate bad > > > results > > > > > such as loss of child - amended by the fact that both Mercury > > and > > > > Saturn > > > > > are imbecile planets. > > > > > > > > > > 7) Libra lagna, Venus in Aquarius: Note that lagna lord Venus > > is > > > > also > > > > > the 8th lord. Certainly 8th lord is a malefic, and a malefic > > > placed > > > > in > > > > > 5th can indicate lose of child. > > > > > > > > > > If you continue this analysis, you could see that for most of > > the > > > 12 > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Renu ji, > > Thanks. > > ==> > > > Now a question regarding 10H and LL. Many nice things are > promised > > > when LL is in 10H. Are all these applicable to Gemini Lagna too, > > > since LL Mercury gets debilitated in 10H, Pisces? > > <== > > Yes, they are - but the results will get a bit modified, and > even > > though the same good results, its amount won't be as much. But > > this 'modification of results' caused by 'Sign-Planet' combination > > should not be considered here because here we are exclusively > dealing > > with 'House' alone. > > An astrologer who is aware of both - > > * House Base results (Eg. LL in 10th house) & > > * Sign-House Base results (Eg. Me in Pi) > > can easily see these modifications. But for the learner, the only > > way for systematic study is to learn these two things separately. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > , " renunw " > > <renunw@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > > > You are doing a great service by explaining the basics relevant > to > > > Lagna Lords placed in various houses as per ancient classics and > > > thereby opening the door for discussions. The cuase-effect > system > > of > > > analysis makes it easier to remember the principles and sensible > > > too..thank you! > > > > > > Now a question regarding 10H and LL. Many nice things are > promised > > > when LL is in 10H. Are all these applicable to Gemini Lagna too, > > > since LL Mercury gets debilitated in 10H, Pisces? > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > Here is the intial info for sharing our views > about 'Lagna > > > lord in > > > > 10th house. Let us start - > > > > > > > > ============================================= > > > > Lagna lord in 10th House > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected > or > > > > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and > > > position. > > > > He will earn much money with his own effort and will become > very > > > popular > > > > individual respected for his capabilities. He will get much > > > happiness > > > > from his father and mother. He will have - many bothers, high > > > sexual > > > > urges, life loving nature, good qualities and beauty. He would > be > > a > > > > scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, father > and > > > > mother and live like a king with good wealth. > > > > > > > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected > and > > > > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and > > > position. > > > > He will earn much money with his own effort and will become > very > > > popular > > > > individual (respected for his capabilities). > > > > > > > > - Parasara Hora > > > > > > > > Prestige, popularity and respect are signified by 10th house. > It > > > is area > > > > of the zodiac that is just above our head - the highest point, > > and > > > is in > > > > the visible area of the sky. No wonder, lagna lord in 10th > will > > > make the > > > > native a much respectable individual, respected or rewarded > even > > > by the > > > > king, the government or people in power. Lagna lord in 10th > > means, > > > the > > > > native is in his highest position of exaltation in social life, > > > > excellently using his capabilities to the maximum extend. Thus > the > > > > derivation - he will earn much money with his own effort. As > > > mentioned > > > > earlier popularity is signified by 10th house itself. Thus the > > > above > > > > sloka simply attributes the qualities signified by 10th house > on > > > the > > > > native - to derive the results. > > > > > > > > Rule 9: The significance of the house reflects through the > house > > > lord > > > > (e.g. Lagna lord) placed in any house. i.e. To derive the > result, > > > try > > > > associating the significance of the house with the individual > or > > > thing > > > > signified by the house lord. > > > > > > > > It is the above rule that makes the native intelligent if > lagna > > > lord is > > > > placed in 5th, makes the native simple minded and loving if > lagna > > > is in > > > > 4th, makes the native popular and wealthy if lagna lord is in > > 10th. > > > > > > > > Another version of this sloka of sage Parasara is also > available, > > > which > > > > is given below- > > > > > > > > If the lagna lord is in 4th or 10th house, the native will get > > much > > > > happiness from his father and mother. He will have many > bothers. > > > He will > > > > have - high sexual urges, life loving nature, good qualities > and > > > beauty. > > > > > > > > - Parasara Hora > > > > > > > > It is discussed earlier itself (while discussing 4th and 9th > > house) > > > > that, as per Parasara 10th house signify father. That is why > in > > the > > > > above sloka it is said that, `if lagna lord is in 10th house > the > > > > native will get much happiness from father'. Of course any > planet > > > in > > > > 10th aspects 4th house and that is why `happiness from mother' > > > > as well. This helps us to locate one more rule. > > > > > > > > Rule 10: Lagna lord gives beneficial results to any house that > it > > > > aspects. > > > > > > > > The reason for `having many brothers' is also discussed while > > > > discussing 4th house. All the other results in the above sloka > is > > > > derived, as if lagna lord is placed in 4th, since from 10th it > > > aspects > > > > 4th house. Of course life-loving nature (4th) combined with > > > excellence > > > > in job (10th) is sure to give good results such as mental > peace > > and > > > > public respect. > > > > > > > > Rule 11: The aspect gives results similar to placement. Both > can > > be > > > > interchanged while trying to derive, more and more results, > from > > > the > > > > combinations present in the natal chart. > > > > > > > > Use this rule, anywhere when you feel that it is getting > > difficult > > > to > > > > derive more and more results - certainly this makes the result > > > > derivation an easier task by providing more possibilities. > > > > > > > > If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. > He > > > would > > > > be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, > > > father and > > > > mother and live like a king with good wealth. > > > > > > > > - Meenaraja Hora > > > > > > > > Any person in highest position and power is signified by 10th > > > house and > > > > so naturally it signifies king or government. Lagna lord is in > > > 10th, > > > > indicating a mutual beneficial association between the > government > > > and > > > > the native. That is why the derivation - `he will get help > (award, > > > > promotion or monetary help) from the government'. Scholarship > is a > > > > quality associated with 9th house. 10th is 2nd house from 9th. > > > Presence > > > > of lagna lord there provides beneficial results for 10th. From > > > earlier > > > > discussion we know `The 2nd house from any house strengthens > the > > > > effects of the house prior to it'. Thus naturally lagna lord > in > > > 10th > > > > increases the qualities of 9th, one of which happens to be > > > scholarship. > > > > That is why it is said that the native would be a scholar. 9th > is > > > > strengthened - that is why guru is respected. Both 10th and > 4th > > > benefits > > > > from the placement of lagna lord in 10th, and that is why it > is > > > said > > > > that `he will respect his father and mother', respect being a > > > > quality imparted to native through the 10th house. In his high > > > position > > > > and finest exposition of excellence (10th house - mid heaven), > the > > > > native is natural to live like a king with good wealth - and > thus > > > the > > > > derivation. Horapradeepa gives another version of the above > sloka. > > > > > > > > If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. > He > > > would > > > > be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, > > > father and > > > > mother. He would be an individual who is popular like a king. > > > > > > > > - Hora Pradeepam > > > > > > > > The only difference this sloka has is that it gives more > > > importance to > > > > the popularity gained by the native, a quality of 10th house. > > > > > > > > The 10th house signifies things such as - power, position, > > > popularity, > > > > public respect, job, fame, father, kingly wealth and prestige, > > > expertise > > > > in things, excellence in job etc. Thus the placement of lagna > > lord > > > in > > > > 10th generates special importance to the derivations related > to > > the > > > > same. > > > > > > > > - by Sreenadh (sreesog@) > > > > > > > > ============================================= > > > > Love, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Sree, How exactly the two blend in case of Gemini lagna is something we wait till actual horoscopes are taken up and the nett outcome seen. But that doesn't mean the ruling for LL in 10H is invalid or suspect. So you rightly stand your ground. The two (LL in 10H and Mc in Pi) will run concurrent. The nett effect to be gauged from actual charts. There may be other rajayoag-adding factors in 10H in a horoscope. I know of a chart (owner) that has in Pi as 10H Mc, Ju, and Su. But fact remains he experiences the effects of pulled-down LL despite relief from (debility) by way of Jup's association. The complete chart later. RKSreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Renu ji,Thanks. ==>> Now a question regarding 10H and LL. Many nice things are promised > when LL is in 10H. Are all these applicable to Gemini Lagna too, > since LL Mercury gets debilitated in 10H, Pisces? <==Yes, they are - but the results will get a bit modified, and even though the same good results, its amount won't be as much. But this 'modification of results' caused by 'Sign-Planet' combination should not be considered here because here we are exclusively dealing with 'House' alone. An astrologer who is aware of both -* House Base results (Eg. LL in 10th house) & * Sign-House Base results (Eg. Me in Pi) can easily see these modifications. But for the learner, the only way for systematic study is to learn these two things separately.Love,Sreenadh , "renunw" <renunw wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji,> > You are doing a great service by explaining the basics relevant to > Lagna Lords placed in various houses as per ancient classics and > thereby opening the door for discussions. The cuase-effect system of > analysis makes it easier to remember the principles and sensible > too..thank you!> > Now a question regarding 10H and LL. Many nice things are promised > when LL is in 10H. Are all these applicable to Gemini Lagna too, > since LL Mercury gets debilitated in 10H, Pisces? > > blessings> > Renu> > , "Sreenadh" > <sreesog@> wrote:> >> > > > Dear All,> > > > Here is the intial info for sharing our views about 'Lagna > lord in> > 10th house. Let us start -> > > > =============================================> > Lagna lord in 10th House> > ---> > > > > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected or> > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and > position.> > He will earn much money with his own effort and will become very > popular> > individual respected for his capabilities. He will get much > happiness> > from his father and mother. He will have - many bothers, high > sexual> > urges, life loving nature, good qualities and beauty. He would be a> > scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, father and> > mother and live like a king with good wealth.> > > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected and> > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and > position.> > He will earn much money with his own effort and will become very > popular> > individual (respected for his capabilities).> > > > - Parasara Hora> > > > Prestige, popularity and respect are signified by 10th house. It > is area> > of the zodiac that is just above our head - the highest point, and > is in> > the visible area of the sky. No wonder, lagna lord in 10th will > make the> > native a much respectable individual, respected or rewarded even > by the> > king, the government or people in power. Lagna lord in 10th means, > the> > native is in his highest position of exaltation in social life,> > excellently using his capabilities to the maximum extend. Thus the> > derivation - he will earn much money with his own effort. As > mentioned> > earlier popularity is signified by 10th house itself. Thus the > above> > sloka simply attributes the qualities signified by 10th house on > the> > native - to derive the results.> > > > Rule 9: The significance of the house reflects through the house > lord> > (e.g. Lagna lord) placed in any house. i.e. To derive the result, > try> > associating the significance of the house with the individual or > thing> > signified by the house lord.> > > > It is the above rule that makes the native intelligent if lagna > lord is> > placed in 5th, makes the native simple minded and loving if lagna > is in> > 4th, makes the native popular and wealthy if lagna lord is in 10th.> > > > Another version of this sloka of sage Parasara is also available, > which> > is given below-> > > > If the lagna lord is in 4th or 10th house, the native will get much> > happiness from his father and mother. He will have many bothers. > He will> > have - high sexual urges, life loving nature, good qualities and > beauty.> > > > - Parasara Hora> > > > It is discussed earlier itself (while discussing 4th and 9th house)> > that, as per Parasara 10th house signify father. That is why in the> > above sloka it is said that, `if lagna lord is in 10th house the> > native will get much happiness from father'. Of course any planet > in> > 10th aspects 4th house and that is why `happiness from mother'> > as well. This helps us to locate one more rule.> > > > Rule 10: Lagna lord gives beneficial results to any house that it> > aspects.> > > > The reason for `having many brothers' is also discussed while> > discussing 4th house. All the other results in the above sloka is> > derived, as if lagna lord is placed in 4th, since from 10th it > aspects> > 4th house. Of course life-loving nature (4th) combined with > excellence> > in job (10th) is sure to give good results such as mental peace and> > public respect.> > > > Rule 11: The aspect gives results similar to placement. Both can be> > interchanged while trying to derive, more and more results, from > the> > combinations present in the natal chart.> > > > Use this rule, anywhere when you feel that it is getting difficult > to> > derive more and more results - certainly this makes the result> > derivation an easier task by providing more possibilities.> > > > If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. He > would> > be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, > father and> > mother and live like a king with good wealth.> > > > - Meenaraja Hora> > > > Any person in highest position and power is signified by 10th > house and> > so naturally it signifies king or government. Lagna lord is in > 10th,> > indicating a mutual beneficial association between the government > and> > the native. That is why the derivation - `he will get help (award,> > promotion or monetary help) from the government'. Scholarship is a> > quality associated with 9th house. 10th is 2nd house from 9th. > Presence> > of lagna lord there provides beneficial results for 10th. From > earlier> > discussion we know `The 2nd house from any house strengthens the> > effects of the house prior to it'. Thus naturally lagna lord in > 10th> > increases the qualities of 9th, one of which happens to be > scholarship.> > That is why it is said that the native would be a scholar. 9th is> > strengthened - that is why guru is respected. Both 10th and 4th > benefits> > from the placement of lagna lord in 10th, and that is why it is > said> > that `he will respect his father and mother', respect being a> > quality imparted to native through the 10th house. In his high > position> > and finest exposition of excellence (10th house - mid heaven), the> > native is natural to live like a king with good wealth - and thus > the> > derivation. Horapradeepa gives another version of the above sloka.> > > > If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. He > would> > be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, > father and> > mother. He would be an individual who is popular like a king.> > > > - Hora Pradeepam> > > > The only difference this sloka has is that it gives more > importance to> > the popularity gained by the native, a quality of 10th house.> > > > The 10th house signifies things such as - power, position, > popularity,> > public respect, job, fame, father, kingly wealth and prestige, > expertise> > in things, excellence in job etc. Thus the placement of lagna lord > in> > 10th generates special importance to the derivations related to the> > same.> > > > - by Sreenadh (sreesog@)> > > > =============================================> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Dear Sreenadh ji, Ok...I agree but not with the following.. " Too much details makes the brain dull. " It depends on the style of writing. Anyway thanks for encouraging to activate the prefrontal cortex of the brain..otherwise life would be dull. :} blessings Renu , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Renu ji, > You are right - but not that 'a single brick does not make a house' > Since you the logic I applied you can it apply anywhere you like, > as the context permits. If I am going to the extend of considering the > placement of lords in every sign (similar to I did for 5th house, > which was due a special reason - i.e. Parasara crossed the limits of > 'House Base' in that instance) the articles will be come too long and > incomprehensible. Too much details makes the brain dull. First, we > don't need it as of now I think; Anyone can apply such logic > themselves since the trick is already known. > Third, and most importantly, you must have noticed that a unique and > stronger brick was supplied by Sunil ji, right now - which needs to be > understood in detail; and so attention should shift to that. For > example he told us that LL lord in 10th is similar to Mars (LL of > Kalapurusha's chart starting from Aries) in 10th (Capricorn). Note > that Mars gets exalted in 10th and gives good results - naturally LL > in 10th also should give good results (irrespective of power gained by > placement). > We have a chance to consider all these exaltation, debilitation etc > and to understand how they affect the results - i.e. when we discuss > " Sign Base " in detail.. Wait for that. Note that we have 2 major > sections (Planet Base & House Base) still pending and we need to move > on fast to at least touch all areas. Why the hurry? Note that the > highest number of votes is gained for " Discussing Divisions " in the > Poll.. If not we finish this 7-fold fast enough, how can we do > that? > So let us move on and some of the gaps we will as we move on... But > still except the core concepts almost 90% of astrology won't be dealt > within this group. > For example we discussed Aries Lagna (For Sign-House Base): Then > neglected all the 11 possible Lagna! > The we discussed Sun in all the houses (For House-Planet Base): Then > ignored all the other planets in various houses!! > Now we discuss LL in various houses (For House Base): Then and there > itself we will wind up and move on to Planet Base.. > That is simply a strategy... > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > Thanks and I do understand that you have reminded many a times that > > we are dealing with " House alone " principle right now. Yes, it is a > > good approach for beginners like us. > > > > Yet, on previous occassions..especially with regard to 5th House, > > the following reasoning was presented. > > > > " 1) Aries lagna, lagna lord Mars in Leo: Yes, Leo is a sign > > > > > signifying > > > > > > less children, and Mars a malefic in it can indicate loss of > > > > child > > > > > for > > > > > > sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Taurus lagna, lagna lord Venus in Virgo: Virgo is the > > > > > debilitation > > > > > > sign for Venus. Also not that Venus owns the lordship of 6th > > > > house > > > > ....so on and so forth.... > > > > I presume this goes beyond " house alone " analysis. In fact that was > > a fine presentation by you, which indeed explained ... " loss of > > child " ...concept quite reasonably. You tried to explain the cause > > for " losss of child " ...when LL is placed in 5H. > > > > Similarly, wouldn't it be better to reason out the cause for > > consequences of LL being in 10th House? For many signs it is self > > explanatory. If we take the 1st sign... > > Aries..........Mars gets exalted in 10H > > and the last sign Pisces.....Jupiter in 10H is in the > > Mooltrikona/own House...and the signs in-between these 2 signs will > > tell similar or slightly different stories. > > > > But since Mercury gets debilitated ...I posted my query...I expected > > a detailed answer ..remembering your logical approach to LL in 5H > > analysis. > > > > blessings > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " 1) Aries lagna, lagna lord Mars in Leo: Yes, Leo is a sign > > > > > signifying > > > > > > less children, and Mars a malefic in it can indicate loss of > > > > child > > > > > for > > > > > > sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Taurus lagna, lagna lord Venus in Virgo: Virgo is the > > > > > debilitation > > > > > > sign for Venus. Also not that Venus owns the lordship of 6th > > > > house > > > > > as > > > > > > well. Thus for sure for Taurus lagna Venus in 5th can > > indicate > > > > loss > > > > > of > > > > > > child for sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Gemini lagna, lagna lord Me in Libra: Note that Venus the > > > lord > > > > of > > > > > > Libra owns the 12th house (house indicating death) as well. > > > > > Possibly the > > > > > > combination can indicate loss or death. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Cancer lagna, Moon in Scorpio: Scorpio is the debilitation > > > > sign > > > > > for > > > > > > Moon. Ofcourse the same can indicate the loss of child. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) Leo lagna, Sun in Sagittarius: Note that the lord of > > > > Sagittarius > > > > > > Jupiter owns the 8th house (death) as well. Thus certainly > > the > > > > > > combination can indicate the loss or death of child. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) Virgo lagna, Me in Capricorn: The lord of Capricorn Saturn > > > > owns > > > > > the > > > > > > 6th house as well. Possibly the combination can indicate bad > > > > results > > > > > > such as loss of child - amended by the fact that both Mercury > > > and > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > are imbecile planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) Libra lagna, Venus in Aquarius: Note that lagna lord Venus > > > is > > > > > also > > > > > > the 8th lord. Certainly 8th lord is a malefic, and a malefic > > > > placed > > > > > in > > > > > > 5th can indicate lose of child. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you continue this analysis, you could see that for most of > > > the > > > > 12 > > > > > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Renu ji, > > > Thanks. > > > ==> > > > > Now a question regarding 10H and LL. Many nice things are > > promised > > > > when LL is in 10H. Are all these applicable to Gemini Lagna too, > > > > since LL Mercury gets debilitated in 10H, Pisces? > > > <== > > > Yes, they are - but the results will get a bit modified, and > > even > > > though the same good results, its amount won't be as much. But > > > this 'modification of results' caused by 'Sign-Planet' combination > > > should not be considered here because here we are exclusively > > dealing > > > with 'House' alone. > > > An astrologer who is aware of both - > > > * House Base results (Eg. LL in 10th house) & > > > * Sign-House Base results (Eg. Me in Pi) > > > can easily see these modifications. But for the learner, the only > > > way for systematic study is to learn these two things separately. > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , " renunw " > > > <renunw@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > > > > > You are doing a great service by explaining the basics relevant > > to > > > > Lagna Lords placed in various houses as per ancient classics and > > > > thereby opening the door for discussions. The cuase-effect > > system > > > of > > > > analysis makes it easier to remember the principles and sensible > > > > too..thank you! > > > > > > > > Now a question regarding 10H and LL. Many nice things are > > promised > > > > when LL is in 10H. Are all these applicable to Gemini Lagna too, > > > > since LL Mercury gets debilitated in 10H, Pisces? > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > Here is the intial info for sharing our views > > about 'Lagna > > > > lord in > > > > > 10th house. Let us start - > > > > > > > > > > ============================================= > > > > > Lagna lord in 10th House > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected > > or > > > > > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and > > > > position. > > > > > He will earn much money with his own effort and will become > > very > > > > popular > > > > > individual respected for his capabilities. He will get much > > > > happiness > > > > > from his father and mother. He will have - many bothers, high > > > > sexual > > > > > urges, life loving nature, good qualities and beauty. He would > > be > > > a > > > > > scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, father > > and > > > > > mother and live like a king with good wealth. > > > > > > > > > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected > > and > > > > > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and > > > > position. > > > > > He will earn much money with his own effort and will become > > very > > > > popular > > > > > individual (respected for his capabilities). > > > > > > > > > > - Parasara Hora > > > > > > > > > > Prestige, popularity and respect are signified by 10th house. > > It > > > > is area > > > > > of the zodiac that is just above our head - the highest point, > > > and > > > > is in > > > > > the visible area of the sky. No wonder, lagna lord in 10th > > will > > > > make the > > > > > native a much respectable individual, respected or rewarded > > even > > > > by the > > > > > king, the government or people in power. Lagna lord in 10th > > > means, > > > > the > > > > > native is in his highest position of exaltation in social life, > > > > > excellently using his capabilities to the maximum extend. Thus > > the > > > > > derivation - he will earn much money with his own effort. As > > > > mentioned > > > > > earlier popularity is signified by 10th house itself. Thus the > > > > above > > > > > sloka simply attributes the qualities signified by 10th house > > on > > > > the > > > > > native - to derive the results. > > > > > > > > > > Rule 9: The significance of the house reflects through the > > house > > > > lord > > > > > (e.g. Lagna lord) placed in any house. i.e. To derive the > > result, > > > > try > > > > > associating the significance of the house with the individual > > or > > > > thing > > > > > signified by the house lord. > > > > > > > > > > It is the above rule that makes the native intelligent if > > lagna > > > > lord is > > > > > placed in 5th, makes the native simple minded and loving if > > lagna > > > > is in > > > > > 4th, makes the native popular and wealthy if lagna lord is in > > > 10th. > > > > > > > > > > Another version of this sloka of sage Parasara is also > > available, > > > > which > > > > > is given below- > > > > > > > > > > If the lagna lord is in 4th or 10th house, the native will get > > > much > > > > > happiness from his father and mother. He will have many > > bothers. > > > > He will > > > > > have - high sexual urges, life loving nature, good qualities > > and > > > > beauty. > > > > > > > > > > - Parasara Hora > > > > > > > > > > It is discussed earlier itself (while discussing 4th and 9th > > > house) > > > > > that, as per Parasara 10th house signify father. That is why > > in > > > the > > > > > above sloka it is said that, `if lagna lord is in 10th house > > the > > > > > native will get much happiness from father'. Of course any > > planet > > > > in > > > > > 10th aspects 4th house and that is why `happiness from mother' > > > > > as well. This helps us to locate one more rule. > > > > > > > > > > Rule 10: Lagna lord gives beneficial results to any house that > > it > > > > > aspects. > > > > > > > > > > The reason for `having many brothers' is also discussed while > > > > > discussing 4th house. All the other results in the above sloka > > is > > > > > derived, as if lagna lord is placed in 4th, since from 10th it > > > > aspects > > > > > 4th house. Of course life-loving nature (4th) combined with > > > > excellence > > > > > in job (10th) is sure to give good results such as mental > > peace > > > and > > > > > public respect. > > > > > > > > > > Rule 11: The aspect gives results similar to placement. Both > > can > > > be > > > > > interchanged while trying to derive, more and more results, > > from > > > > the > > > > > combinations present in the natal chart. > > > > > > > > > > Use this rule, anywhere when you feel that it is getting > > > difficult > > > > to > > > > > derive more and more results - certainly this makes the result > > > > > derivation an easier task by providing more possibilities. > > > > > > > > > > If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. > > He > > > > would > > > > > be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, > > > > father and > > > > > mother and live like a king with good wealth. > > > > > > > > > > - Meenaraja Hora > > > > > > > > > > Any person in highest position and power is signified by 10th > > > > house and > > > > > so naturally it signifies king or government. Lagna lord is in > > > > 10th, > > > > > indicating a mutual beneficial association between the > > government > > > > and > > > > > the native. That is why the derivation - `he will get help > > (award, > > > > > promotion or monetary help) from the government'. Scholarship > > is a > > > > > quality associated with 9th house. 10th is 2nd house from 9th. > > > > Presence > > > > > of lagna lord there provides beneficial results for 10th. From > > > > earlier > > > > > discussion we know `The 2nd house from any house strengthens > > the > > > > > effects of the house prior to it'. Thus naturally lagna lord > > in > > > > 10th > > > > > increases the qualities of 9th, one of which happens to be > > > > scholarship. > > > > > That is why it is said that the native would be a scholar. 9th > > is > > > > > strengthened - that is why guru is respected. Both 10th and > > 4th > > > > benefits > > > > > from the placement of lagna lord in 10th, and that is why it > > is > > > > said > > > > > that `he will respect his father and mother', respect being a > > > > > quality imparted to native through the 10th house. In his high > > > > position > > > > > and finest exposition of excellence (10th house - mid heaven), > > the > > > > > native is natural to live like a king with good wealth - and > > thus > > > > the > > > > > derivation. Horapradeepa gives another version of the above > > sloka. > > > > > > > > > > If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. > > He > > > > would > > > > > be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, > > > > father and > > > > > mother. He would be an individual who is popular like a king. > > > > > > > > > > - Hora Pradeepam > > > > > > > > > > The only difference this sloka has is that it gives more > > > > importance to > > > > > the popularity gained by the native, a quality of 10th house. > > > > > > > > > > The 10th house signifies things such as - power, position, > > > > popularity, > > > > > public respect, job, fame, father, kingly wealth and prestige, > > > > expertise > > > > > in things, excellence in job etc. Thus the placement of lagna > > > lord > > > > in > > > > > 10th generates special importance to the derivations related > > to > > > the > > > > > same. > > > > > > > > > > - by Sreenadh (sreesog@) > > > > > > > > > > ============================================= > > > > > Love, > > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Dear RK ji, ==> > How exactly the two blend in case of Gemini lagna is something we wait till actual horoscopes are taken up and the nett outcome seen. <== I agree completly with this statement, and request members to present horoscope with LL in 10th and compare with actual results. ==> LL in 10H and Mc in Pi <== 1) LL in 10H = House Base 2) Me in Pi = Sign-Planet Base Treating them separately is 'Analytical Approach', and then combining the results and gauging the net result is 'Holistic Approach'. Note that Analytical is the base and Holistic is the culmination. But without the first 'Analytical approach' the second become baseless and 'chaos' as RK ji mentioned once. Note: RK ji you can present that chart (LL in 10H in Pi) and results now it self - It is the time for that. Love, Sreenadh , rk dash <arkaydash wrote: > > Sree, > How exactly the two blend in case of Gemini lagna is something we wait till actual horoscopes are taken up and the nett outcome seen. But that doesn't mean the ruling for LL in 10H is invalid or suspect. So you rightly stand your ground. The two (LL in 10H and Mc in Pi) will run concurrent. The nett effect to be gauged from actual charts. There may be other rajayoag-adding factors in 10H in a horoscope. I know of a chart (owner) that has in Pi as 10H Mc, Ju, and Su. But fact remains he experiences the effects of pulled-down LL despite relief from (debility) by way of Jup's association. The complete chart later. > > RK > > Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: > Dear Renu ji, > Thanks. > ==> > > Now a question regarding 10H and LL. Many nice things are promised > > when LL is in 10H. Are all these applicable to Gemini Lagna too, > > since LL Mercury gets debilitated in 10H, Pisces? > <== > Yes, they are - but the results will get a bit modified, and even > though the same good results, its amount won't be as much. But > this 'modification of results' caused by 'Sign-Planet' combination > should not be considered here because here we are exclusively dealing > with 'House' alone. > An astrologer who is aware of both - > * House Base results (Eg. LL in 10th house) & > * Sign-House Base results (Eg. Me in Pi) > can easily see these modifications. But for the learner, the only > way for systematic study is to learn these two things separately. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " renunw " > <renunw@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > You are doing a great service by explaining the basics relevant to > > Lagna Lords placed in various houses as per ancient classics and > > thereby opening the door for discussions. The cuase-effect system > of > > analysis makes it easier to remember the principles and sensible > > too..thank you! > > > > Now a question regarding 10H and LL. Many nice things are promised > > when LL is in 10H. Are all these applicable to Gemini Lagna too, > > since LL Mercury gets debilitated in 10H, Pisces? > > > > blessings > > > > Renu > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > Here is the intial info for sharing our views about 'Lagna > > lord in > > > 10th house. Let us start - > > > > > > ============================================= > > > Lagna lord in 10th House > > > --- > > > > > > > > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected or > > > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and > > position. > > > He will earn much money with his own effort and will become very > > popular > > > individual respected for his capabilities. He will get much > > happiness > > > from his father and mother. He will have - many bothers, high > > sexual > > > urges, life loving nature, good qualities and beauty. He would be > a > > > scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, father and > > > mother and live like a king with good wealth. > > > > > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected and > > > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and > > position. > > > He will earn much money with his own effort and will become very > > popular > > > individual (respected for his capabilities). > > > > > > - Parasara Hora > > > > > > Prestige, popularity and respect are signified by 10th house. It > > is area > > > of the zodiac that is just above our head - the highest point, > and > > is in > > > the visible area of the sky. No wonder, lagna lord in 10th will > > make the > > > native a much respectable individual, respected or rewarded even > > by the > > > king, the government or people in power. Lagna lord in 10th > means, > > the > > > native is in his highest position of exaltation in social life, > > > excellently using his capabilities to the maximum extend. Thus the > > > derivation - he will earn much money with his own effort. As > > mentioned > > > earlier popularity is signified by 10th house itself. Thus the > > above > > > sloka simply attributes the qualities signified by 10th house on > > the > > > native - to derive the results. > > > > > > Rule 9: The significance of the house reflects through the house > > lord > > > (e.g. Lagna lord) placed in any house. i.e. To derive the result, > > try > > > associating the significance of the house with the individual or > > thing > > > signified by the house lord. > > > > > > It is the above rule that makes the native intelligent if lagna > > lord is > > > placed in 5th, makes the native simple minded and loving if lagna > > is in > > > 4th, makes the native popular and wealthy if lagna lord is in > 10th. > > > > > > Another version of this sloka of sage Parasara is also available, > > which > > > is given below- > > > > > > If the lagna lord is in 4th or 10th house, the native will get > much > > > happiness from his father and mother. He will have many bothers. > > He will > > > have - high sexual urges, life loving nature, good qualities and > > beauty. > > > > > > - Parasara Hora > > > > > > It is discussed earlier itself (while discussing 4th and 9th > house) > > > that, as per Parasara 10th house signify father. That is why in > the > > > above sloka it is said that, `if lagna lord is in 10th house the > > > native will get much happiness from father'. Of course any planet > > in > > > 10th aspects 4th house and that is why `happiness from mother' > > > as well. This helps us to locate one more rule. > > > > > > Rule 10: Lagna lord gives beneficial results to any house that it > > > aspects. > > > > > > The reason for `having many brothers' is also discussed while > > > discussing 4th house. All the other results in the above sloka is > > > derived, as if lagna lord is placed in 4th, since from 10th it > > aspects > > > 4th house. Of course life-loving nature (4th) combined with > > excellence > > > in job (10th) is sure to give good results such as mental peace > and > > > public respect. > > > > > > Rule 11: The aspect gives results similar to placement. Both can > be > > > interchanged while trying to derive, more and more results, from > > the > > > combinations present in the natal chart. > > > > > > Use this rule, anywhere when you feel that it is getting > difficult > > to > > > derive more and more results - certainly this makes the result > > > derivation an easier task by providing more possibilities. > > > > > > If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. He > > would > > > be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, > > father and > > > mother and live like a king with good wealth. > > > > > > - Meenaraja Hora > > > > > > Any person in highest position and power is signified by 10th > > house and > > > so naturally it signifies king or government. Lagna lord is in > > 10th, > > > indicating a mutual beneficial association between the government > > and > > > the native. That is why the derivation - `he will get help (award, > > > promotion or monetary help) from the government'. Scholarship is a > > > quality associated with 9th house. 10th is 2nd house from 9th. > > Presence > > > of lagna lord there provides beneficial results for 10th. From > > earlier > > > discussion we know `The 2nd house from any house strengthens the > > > effects of the house prior to it'. Thus naturally lagna lord in > > 10th > > > increases the qualities of 9th, one of which happens to be > > scholarship. > > > That is why it is said that the native would be a scholar. 9th is > > > strengthened - that is why guru is respected. Both 10th and 4th > > benefits > > > from the placement of lagna lord in 10th, and that is why it is > > said > > > that `he will respect his father and mother', respect being a > > > quality imparted to native through the 10th house. In his high > > position > > > and finest exposition of excellence (10th house - mid heaven), the > > > native is natural to live like a king with good wealth - and thus > > the > > > derivation. Horapradeepa gives another version of the above sloka. > > > > > > If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. He > > would > > > be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, > > father and > > > mother. He would be an individual who is popular like a king. > > > > > > - Hora Pradeepam > > > > > > The only difference this sloka has is that it gives more > > importance to > > > the popularity gained by the native, a quality of 10th house. > > > > > > The 10th house signifies things such as - power, position, > > popularity, > > > public respect, job, fame, father, kingly wealth and prestige, > > expertise > > > in things, excellence in job etc. Thus the placement of lagna > lord > > in > > > 10th generates special importance to the derivations related to > the > > > same. > > > > > > - by Sreenadh (sreesog@) > > > > > > ============================================= > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 sreenadh ji namashkar i have lagna lord in 10 th d/b 15 th march 1965 time 00.15 am hyderabad ap india scorpio lagna any furthur info is required i would be happy to share takecare godbless raj k. --- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: > Dear RK ji, > ==> > > How exactly the two blend in case of Gemini > lagna is something we > wait till actual horoscopes are taken up and the > nett outcome seen. > <== > I agree completly with this statement, and request > members to > present horoscope with LL in 10th and compare with > actual results. > ==> > LL in 10H and Mc in Pi > <== > 1) LL in 10H = House Base > 2) Me in Pi = Sign-Planet Base > Treating them separately is 'Analytical Approach', > and then > combining the results and gauging the net result is > 'Holistic > Approach'. Note that Analytical is the base and > Holistic is the > culmination. But without the first 'Analytical > approach' the second > become baseless and 'chaos' as RK ji mentioned once. > > Note: RK ji you can present that chart (LL in 10H > in Pi) and results > now it self - It is the time for that. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , rk > dash > <arkaydash wrote: > > > > Sree, > > How exactly the two blend in case of Gemini > lagna is something we > wait till actual horoscopes are taken up and the > nett outcome seen. > But that doesn't mean the ruling for LL in 10H is > invalid or suspect. > So you rightly stand your ground. The two (LL in 10H > and Mc in Pi) > will run concurrent. The nett effect to be gauged > from actual charts. > There may be other rajayoag-adding factors in 10H in > a horoscope. I > know of a chart (owner) that has in Pi as 10H Mc, > Ju, and Su. But > fact remains he experiences the effects of > pulled-down LL despite > relief from (debility) by way of Jup's association. > The complete > chart later. > > > > RK > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Renu ji, > > Thanks. > > ==> > > > Now a question regarding 10H and LL. Many nice > things are > promised > > > when LL is in 10H. Are all these applicable to > Gemini Lagna too, > > > since LL Mercury gets debilitated in 10H, > Pisces? > > <== > > Yes, they are - but the results will get a bit > modified, and even > > though the same good results, its amount won't be > as much. But > > this 'modification of results' caused by > 'Sign-Planet' combination > > should not be considered here because here we are > exclusively > dealing > > with 'House' alone. > > An astrologer who is aware of both - > > * House Base results (Eg. LL in 10th house) & > > * Sign-House Base results (Eg. Me in Pi) > > can easily see these modifications. But for the > learner, the only > > way for systematic study is to learn these two > things separately. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > , > " renunw " > > <renunw@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > > > You are doing a great service by explaining the > basics relevant > to > > > Lagna Lords placed in various houses as per > ancient classics and > > > thereby opening the door for discussions. The > cuase-effect system > > of > > > analysis makes it easier to remember the > principles and sensible > > > too..thank you! > > > > > > Now a question regarding 10H and LL. Many nice > things are > promised > > > when LL is in 10H. Are all these applicable to > Gemini Lagna too, > > > since LL Mercury gets debilitated in 10H, > Pisces? > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > , > " Sreenadh " > > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > Here is the intial info for sharing our views > about 'Lagna > > > lord in > > > > 10th house. Let us start - > > > > > > > > ============================================= > > > > Lagna lord in 10th House > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native > would be respected or > > > > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded > with good power and > > > position. > > > > He will earn much money with his own effort > and will become > very > > > popular > > > > individual respected for his capabilities. He > will get much > > > happiness > > > > from his father and mother. He will have - > many bothers, high > > > sexual > > > > urges, life loving nature, good qualities and > beauty. He would > be > > a > > > > scholar and righteous individual. He will > respect guru, father > and > > > > mother and live like a king with good wealth. > > > > > > > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native > would be respected > and > > > > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded > with good power and > > > position. > > > > He will earn much money with his own effort > and will become > very > > > popular > > > > individual (respected for his capabilities). > > > > > > > > - Parasara Hora > > > > > > > > Prestige, popularity and respect are signified > by 10th house. > It > > > is area > > > > of the zodiac that is just above our head - > the highest point, > > and > > > is in > > > > the visible area of the sky. No wonder, lagna > lord in 10th will > > > make the > > > > native a much respectable individual, > respected or rewarded > even > > > by the > > > > king, the government or people in power. Lagna > lord in 10th > > means, > > > the > > > > native is in his highest position of > exaltation in social life, > > > > excellently using his capabilities to the > maximum extend. Thus > the > > > > derivation - he will earn much money with his > own === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv./collections/3658 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 HinduCalendar , " Avtar Krishen Kaul " <jyotirved wrote: Shri Vavamenon ji, Namaskar! I am aleady a member of and Shri Sreenadhji is a member of this (HinduCalendar) forum! We do not agree even to disagree with one another but then that is a part of life. Having read Yogavasishtha, Shri Sreenadh is a seeker of Truth. As such, the chances are he will agree with my views sooner or later than my agreeing with his views, since his views are the same which I had about a decade back. It will be pleasure to see you when you are in India. With regards, AKK HinduCalendar , vavamenon <vavamenon@> wrote: > > Dear Shri Avtar Kishenji, > > Pranam ! > There is a new group claiming that they are based on ancient indian astrology, which may be of interest to you. Since I do not know much about the subject, I am requesting you to please find out if you have some new facts on the issue of " predictive gimmicks " . > I am still reading all postings from you and all others on the subject, but I could move forward in this subject only once I meet you in person on my next visit to India. > With best regards and prayers, > VM > > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote: > > " Sreenadh " <sreesog@> > Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:18:43 -0000 > Re: Lagna lord in 10th House > > Dear Renu ji, > You are right - but not that 'a single brick does not make a house' > Since you the logic I applied you can it apply anywhere you like, > --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Sreenadh, Here's the chart. Lagna - Gemini; Mars, Rahu - Cancer; Moon - Leo; Sat, Ketu - Capri; Ven - Aqu; Sun, Ju, Mc - Pi DoB: 5 April 1963 ToB: 11:15 am 21.28 N; 84.04 E (Zone 80:30 E) RK Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear RK ji,==>> How exactly the two blend in case of Gemini lagna is something we wait till actual horoscopes are taken up and the nett outcome seen. <==I agree completly with this statement, and request members to present horoscope with LL in 10th and compare with actual results.==>LL in 10H and Mc in Pi<==1) LL in 10H = House Base2) Me in Pi = Sign-Planet BaseTreating them separately is 'Analytical Approach', and then combining the results and gauging the net result is 'Holistic Approach'. Note that Analytical is the base and Holistic is the culmination. But without the first 'Analytical approach' the second become baseless and 'chaos' as RK ji mentioned once. Note: RK ji you can present that chart (LL in 10H in Pi) and results now it self - It is the time for that. :)Love,Sreenadh , rk dash <arkaydash wrote:>> Sree,> How exactly the two blend in case of Gemini lagna is something we wait till actual horoscopes are taken up and the nett outcome seen. But that doesn't mean the ruling for LL in 10H is invalid or suspect. So you rightly stand your ground. The two (LL in 10H and Mc in Pi) will run concurrent. The nett effect to be gauged from actual charts. There may be other rajayoag-adding factors in 10H in a horoscope. I know of a chart (owner) that has in Pi as 10H Mc, Ju, and Su. But fact remains he experiences the effects of pulled-down LL despite relief from (debility) by way of Jup's association. The complete chart later. > > RK> > Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:> Dear Renu ji,> Thanks. > ==>> > Now a question regarding 10H and LL. Many nice things are promised > > when LL is in 10H. Are all these applicable to Gemini Lagna too, > > since LL Mercury gets debilitated in 10H, Pisces? > <==> Yes, they are - but the results will get a bit modified, and even > though the same good results, its amount won't be as much. But > this 'modification of results' caused by 'Sign-Planet' combination > should not be considered here because here we are exclusively dealing > with 'House' alone. > An astrologer who is aware of both -> * House Base results (Eg. LL in 10th house) & > * Sign-House Base results (Eg. Me in Pi) > can easily see these modifications. But for the learner, the only > way for systematic study is to learn these two things separately.> Love,> Sreenadh> > , "renunw" > <renunw@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > > > You are doing a great service by explaining the basics relevant to > > Lagna Lords placed in various houses as per ancient classics and > > thereby opening the door for discussions. The cuase-effect system > of > > analysis makes it easier to remember the principles and sensible > > too..thank you!> > > > Now a question regarding 10H and LL. Many nice things are promised > > when LL is in 10H. Are all these applicable to Gemini Lagna too, > > since LL Mercury gets debilitated in 10H, Pisces? > > > > blessings> > > > Renu> > > > , "Sreenadh" > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > Here is the intial info for sharing our views about 'Lagna > > lord in> > > 10th house. Let us start -> > > > > > =============================================> > > Lagna lord in 10th House> > > ---> > > > > > > > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected or> > > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and > > position.> > > He will earn much money with his own effort and will become very > > popular> > > individual respected for his capabilities. He will get much > > happiness> > > from his father and mother. He will have - many bothers, high > > sexual> > > urges, life loving nature, good qualities and beauty. He would be > a> > > scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, father and> > > mother and live like a king with good wealth.> > > > > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected and> > > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and > > position.> > > He will earn much money with his own effort and will become very > > popular> > > individual (respected for his capabilities).> > > > > > - Parasara Hora> > > > > > Prestige, popularity and respect are signified by 10th house. It > > is area> > > of the zodiac that is just above our head - the highest point, > and > > is in> > > the visible area of the sky. No wonder, lagna lord in 10th will > > make the> > > native a much respectable individual, respected or rewarded even > > by the> > > king, the government or people in power. Lagna lord in 10th > means, > > the> > > native is in his highest position of exaltation in social life,> > > excellently using his capabilities to the maximum extend. Thus the> > > derivation - he will earn much money with his own effort. As > > mentioned> > > earlier popularity is signified by 10th house itself. Thus the > > above> > > sloka simply attributes the qualities signified by 10th house on > > the> > > native - to derive the results.> > > > > > Rule 9: The significance of the house reflects through the house > > lord> > > (e.g. Lagna lord) placed in any house. i.e. To derive the result, > > try> > > associating the significance of the house with the individual or > > thing> > > signified by the house lord.> > > > > > It is the above rule that makes the native intelligent if lagna > > lord is> > > placed in 5th, makes the native simple minded and loving if lagna > > is in> > > 4th, makes the native popular and wealthy if lagna lord is in > 10th.> > > > > > Another version of this sloka of sage Parasara is also available, > > which> > > is given below-> > > > > > If the lagna lord is in 4th or 10th house, the native will get > much> > > happiness from his father and mother. He will have many bothers. > > He will> > > have - high sexual urges, life loving nature, good qualities and > > beauty.> > > > > > - Parasara Hora> > > > > > It is discussed earlier itself (while discussing 4th and 9th > house)> > > that, as per Parasara 10th house signify father. That is why in > the> > > above sloka it is said that, `if lagna lord is in 10th house the> > > native will get much happiness from father'. Of course any planet > > in> > > 10th aspects 4th house and that is why `happiness from mother'> > > as well. This helps us to locate one more rule.> > > > > > Rule 10: Lagna lord gives beneficial results to any house that it> > > aspects.> > > > > > The reason for `having many brothers' is also discussed while> > > discussing 4th house. All the other results in the above sloka is> > > derived, as if lagna lord is placed in 4th, since from 10th it > > aspects> > > 4th house. Of course life-loving nature (4th) combined with > > excellence> > > in job (10th) is sure to give good results such as mental peace > and> > > public respect.> > > > > > Rule 11: The aspect gives results similar to placement. Both can > be> > > interchanged while trying to derive, more and more results, from > > the> > > combinations present in the natal chart.> > > > > > Use this rule, anywhere when you feel that it is getting > difficult > > to> > > derive more and more results - certainly this makes the result> > > derivation an easier task by providing more possibilities.> > > > > > If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. He > > would> > > be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, > > father and> > > mother and live like a king with good wealth.> > > > > > - Meenaraja Hora> > > > > > Any person in highest position and power is signified by 10th > > house and> > > so naturally it signifies king or government. Lagna lord is in > > 10th,> > > indicating a mutual beneficial association between the government > > and> > > the native. That is why the derivation - `he will get help (award,> > > promotion or monetary help) from the government'. Scholarship is a> > > quality associated with 9th house. 10th is 2nd house from 9th. > > Presence> > > of lagna lord there provides beneficial results for 10th. From > > earlier> > > discussion we know `The 2nd house from any house strengthens the> > > effects of the house prior to it'. Thus naturally lagna lord in > > 10th> > > increases the qualities of 9th, one of which happens to be > > scholarship.> > > That is why it is said that the native would be a scholar. 9th is> > > strengthened - that is why guru is respected. Both 10th and 4th > > benefits> > > from the placement of lagna lord in 10th, and that is why it is > > said> > > that `he will respect his father and mother', respect being a> > > quality imparted to native through the 10th house. In his high > > position> > > and finest exposition of excellence (10th house - mid heaven), the> > > native is natural to live like a king with good wealth - and thus > > the> > > derivation. Horapradeepa gives another version of the above sloka.> > > > > > If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. He > > would> > > be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, > > father and> > > mother. He would be an individual who is popular like a king.> > > > > > - Hora Pradeepam> > > > > > The only difference this sloka has is that it gives more > > importance to> > > the popularity gained by the native, a quality of 10th house.> > > > > > The 10th house signifies things such as - power, position, > > popularity,> > > public respect, job, fame, father, kingly wealth and prestige, > > expertise> > > in things, excellence in job etc. Thus the placement of lagna > lord > > in> > > 10th generates special importance to the derivations related to > the> > > same.> > > > > > - by Sreenadh (sreesog@)> > > > > > =============================================> > > Love,> > > Sreenadh> > >> >> > > > > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away.> 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Dear VM ji, Confidence is always good and friendship as well. I don't want Kaul ji to deviate from his path either. Every stand has its own value - and it reveals new angles of view - and helps a lot in having the complete vision. The path taken by every sincere individual is unique - and they can not be a replica of one another. If Kaul ji ever took my path, he must have done what ever I was doing. And as you know that can not be. He is unique in his path and me in mine. Of course I expect a valuable book describing 'Astronomy/Astrology/Calendar System in Vedic period " , and I hope that would be a valuable asset to us all. So I wish him all success in his endeavors. But alas, my path is aimed at Non-vedic Astrology which is Agamic, i.e. has a Tantiric foundation rather than Vedic. So essentially the path ought to differ and the truths revealed. Love, Sreenadh , vavamenon <vavamenon wrote: > > Dear Shri AvtarKishenji, > > Pranam ! > Ha.ha..ha..., your assumption that Shri Sreenadh is more likely to agree to your views sooner or later is a good one, considering that his views were held by you a decade ago and as you came to grip with more and more fundamental truths, you had to discard those views. > Looking forward to meet you sooner than later, > VM > > Avtar Krishen Kaul <jyotirved wrote: > HinduCalendar , " Avtar Krishen Kaul " > <jyotirved@> wrote: > > Shri Vavamenon ji, > Namaskar! > I am aleady a member of and Shri Sreenadhji > is a member of this (HinduCalendar) forum! We do not agree even to > disagree with one another but then that is a part of life. Having > read Yogavasishtha, Shri Sreenadh is a seeker of Truth. As such, the > chances are he will agree with my views sooner or later than my > agreeing with his views, since his views are the same which I had > about a decade back. > > It will be pleasure to see you when you are in India. > With regards, > AKK > HinduCalendar , vavamenon <vavamenon@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Avtar Kishenji, > > > > Pranam ! > > There is a new group claiming that they are based on ancient > indian astrology, which may be of interest to you. Since I do not > know much about the subject, I am requesting you to please find out > if you have some new facts on the issue of " predictive gimmicks " . > > I am still reading all postings from you and all others on the > subject, but I could move forward in this subject only once I meet > you in person on my next visit to India. > > With best regards and prayers, > > VM > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > " Sreenadh " <sreesog@> > > Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:18:43 -0000 > > Re: Lagna lord in 10th House > > > > Dear Renu ji, > > You are right - but not that 'a single brick does not make a house' > > Since you the logic I applied you can it apply anywhere you > like, > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Respected Sir/s, could anyone throw some light if the lagna lord(LL) is in combustion due to its association with the sun in the 10H.and if the same LL is in debilitation in the navamsha in the 11h in cancer. The impurity of the mind is destroyed through the performance of duty. MAHESH IYER. Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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