Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 i note that the indian/vedic/hindu system of astrology appears to recognize seven days of the week - i am wondering about the origin of this in india - have there are always been seven days? if so, how are they organized? per the lunar calendar? for eg., when a pandit says chant a mantra on wednesday, friday or saturday to " appease " a particular planet, is the indian (hindu) reckoning of the day of the week different from the julian calendar? thanks... todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 Dear friends, Lunar calender depends on the motion of MOON w.r.t. Sun. Week days depends on the mean motion of seven planets and the division of one day and -night in 24 hours.One hour is called Hora. All over the World basis of counting of week days is same.I really do not know when and where the system of week days was introduced. It is my belief that week days were in use in India around 2000B.C. In India , the MAHUTRAS ARE FIXED BASED ON FIVE LIMBS - Lunar Tithi, Week days, Karan, YOGA AND Nakshatra in which Moon is placed in transit. All the above five limbs depend on the position of Sun and moon. Regards, Todd Caldecott <todd wrote: i note that the indian/vedic/hindu system of astrology appears to recognize seven days of the week - i am wondering about the origin of this in india - have there are always been seven days? if so, how are they organized? per the lunar calendar? for eg., when a pandit says chant a mantra on wednesday, friday or saturday to "appease" a particular planet, is the indian (hindu) reckoning of the day of the week different from the julian calendar?thanks... toddG.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 dear friends the shivapuran, vidveshwar samhita, chapter 14 gives a narration of how weekdays were given by lord shiva, which i translate succinctly in english below: the first day of the week was meant for lord shiva himself and the ruler of this day is sun who gives health. the second day of the week was meant for shakti and the ruler of this day is moon who gives wealth. the third day of the week was meant for kumaraswamy and the ruler of this day is mars who cures diseases. the fourth day of the week was meant for vishnu and the ruler of this day is mercury who gives nutrition or development. the fifth day of the week was meant for brahma and the ruler of this day is jupiter who gives longevity of life. the sixth day of the week was meant for indra and the ruler of this day is venus who gives enjoyment or pleasures. the seventh day of the week was meant for yama and the ruler of this day is saturn who removes fear of death. worshipping the particular gods on these particular days is recommended for a person who wish to get the results given by those respective lords or planets. shiv bhakts may wonder why sunday was attributed as the day of lord shiva when in present practice, most people follow monday for lord shiva. as goelji said, the practice of following pancha angas (panchang) is only few centuries old and it is surprising to see the seven days of the week finding mention in the puranas. other members can add more information on how week days system was used in the vedic era. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear friends, > Lunar calender depends on the motion of MOON w.r.t. Sun. > Week days depends on the mean motion of seven planets and the division of one day and -night in 24 hours.One hour is called Hora. > All over the World basis of counting of week days is same.I really do not know when and where the system of week days was introduced. It is my belief that week days were in use in India around 2000B.C. > In India , the MAHUTRAS ARE FIXED BASED ON FIVE LIMBS - Lunar Tithi, > Week days, Karan, YOGA AND Nakshatra in which Moon is placed in transit. > All the above five limbs depend on the position of Sun and moon. > Regards, > Caldecott <todd wrote: > i note that the indian/vedic/hindu system of astrology appears to recognize seven days of > the week - i am wondering about the origin of this in india - have there are always been > seven days? if so, how are they organized? per the lunar calendar? for eg., when a pandit > says chant a mantra on wednesday, friday or saturday to " appease " a particular planet, is the > indian (hindu) reckoning of the day of the week different from the julian calendar? > > thanks... todd G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 thanks all to who respondedlet me expand on my earlier question to get at the heart of what i am trying to figure outit can be established that the notion of a seven day week is found in ancient indian culture - the antiquity of this notion however has not been addressed, but for now this doesn't concern me too muchwhat is of more interest to me however is in the determination of the days of the weekat some point, it seems likely that india adopted the julian/gregorian calendar and the pattern of days that the british and europe were usingmy question is, was this adoption congruous with the hindu convention of ascribing a particular day of the week to a particular day?in other words, is monday as per the julian/gregorian calendar in fact the same monday in the hindu calendar?planets are ascribed to each of these days, and so for remedial measures that involve chanting a particular mantra on a particular day, how can we determine that we are chanting the mantra on the correct day? isn't this an important consideration?if find it difficult to believe that we should just accept that the monday we call monday is dedicated to chandra, or thursday to guru, without looking at this question more closelyperhaps the monday that we call monday is actually a thursday, and vice versa - how is this determined as per indian astrology? here i am looking for an answer based on authentic rather than syncretic sourcesi have found some evidence that at one point the days of the week were tied to a lunar cycle, but with the adoption of the julian calendar this has long since been abandonedcertainly the moon passes through the zodiac in its normal cycle, and as per the zodiac, each sign is attributed to a particular planet, and so maybe this is the true source of the days of the week, although because i am not an astrologer i can only speculatei have been lurking for a couple weeks, and have been made aware of the views with regard to what is actually the authentic indian calendar, and as such this issue seems somewhat similareven those of you who don't believe in remedial measures but have something of value to contribute, i would be interested to hear itthanks! Todd Caldecott, Dip. Cl.H, RH(AHG)Ayurvedic practitioner, Medical Herbalist203 - 1750 East 10th AveVancouver, BC V5N 5K4 CANADAweb: http//:www.toddcaldecott.comemail: toddtel: (1)778.896.8894fax: (1)866.703.2792 On 29-Oct-07, at 10:02 AM, panditarjun2004 wrote:dear friendsthe shivapuran, vidveshwar samhita, chapter 14 gives a narration of how weekdays were given by lord shiva, which i translate succinctly in english below:the first day of the week was meant for lord shiva himself and theruler of this day is sun who gives health.the second day of the week was meant for shakti and the ruler ofthis day is moon who gives wealth.the third day of the week was meant for kumaraswamy and the ruler ofthis day is mars who cures diseases.the fourth day of the week was meant for vishnu and the ruler ofthis day is mercury who gives nutrition or development.the fifth day of the week was meant for brahma and the ruler of thisday is jupiter who gives longevity of life.the sixth day of the week was meant for indra and the ruler of thisday is venus who gives enjoyment or pleasures.the seventh day of the week was meant for yama and the ruler of thisday is saturn who removes fear of death.worshipping the particular gods on these particular days isrecommended for a person who wish to get the results given by thoserespective lords or planets.shiv bhakts may wonder why sunday was attributed as the day of lordshiva when in present practice, most people follow monday for lord shiva.as goelji said, the practice of following pancha angas (panchang) is only few centuries old and it is surprising to see the seven days of the week finding mention in the puranas.other members can add more information on how week days system was used in the vedic era.with best wishes and blessingspandit arjunwww.rudraksharemedy.com , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:>> Dear friends,> Lunar calender depends on the motion of MOON w.r.t. Sun.> Week days depends on the mean motion of seven planets and the division of one day and -night in 24 hours.One hour is called Hora.> All over the World basis of counting of week days is same.I really do not know when and where the system of week days was introduced. It is my belief that week days were in use in India around 2000B.C.> In India , the MAHUTRAS ARE FIXED BASED ON FIVE LIMBS - Lunar Tithi,> Week days, Karan, YOGA AND Nakshatra in which Moon is placed in transit.> All the above five limbs depend on the position of Sun and moon.> Regards,> Caldecott <todd wrote:> i note that the indian/vedic/hindu system of astrology appears to recognize seven days of > the week - i am wondering about the origin of this in india - have there are always been > seven days? if so, how are they organized? per the lunar calendar? for eg., when a pandit > says chant a mantra on wednesday, friday or saturday to "appease" a particular planet, is the > indian (hindu) reckoning of the day of the week different from the julian calendar?> > thanks... todd> > > > > > > G.K.GOEL> Ph: 09350311433> Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> NEW DELHI-110 076> INDIA> > > Forgot the famous last words? 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Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 this site has some useful info:http://www.friesian.com/week.htmjust scroll down a bit and you will see mention of a two week cycle used in alchemy that accounted for the seven days - thus, two successive solar days were actually ascribed to one week dayits not hindu/jyotish, i know, but my general opinion is that much of this knowledge is in fact indian in origin anyway and so perhaps can be reconciled with itbest... Todd Caldecott, Dip. Cl.H, RH(AHG)Ayurvedic practitioner, Medical Herbalist203 - 1750 East 10th AveVancouver, BC V5N 5K4 CANADAweb: http//:www.toddcaldecott.comemail: toddtel: (1)778.896.8894fax: (1)866.703.2792 On 29-Oct-07, at 10:02 AM, panditarjun2004 wrote:dear friendsthe shivapuran, vidveshwar samhita, chapter 14 gives a narration of how weekdays were given by lord shiva, which i translate succinctly in english below:the first day of the week was meant for lord shiva himself and theruler of this day is sun who gives health.the second day of the week was meant for shakti and the ruler ofthis day is moon who gives wealth.the third day of the week was meant for kumaraswamy and the ruler ofthis day is mars who cures diseases.the fourth day of the week was meant for vishnu and the ruler ofthis day is mercury who gives nutrition or development.the fifth day of the week was meant for brahma and the ruler of thisday is jupiter who gives longevity of life.the sixth day of the week was meant for indra and the ruler of thisday is venus who gives enjoyment or pleasures.the seventh day of the week was meant for yama and the ruler of thisday is saturn who removes fear of death.worshipping the particular gods on these particular days isrecommended for a person who wish to get the results given by thoserespective lords or planets.shiv bhakts may wonder why sunday was attributed as the day of lordshiva when in present practice, most people follow monday for lord shiva.as goelji said, the practice of following pancha angas (panchang) is only few centuries old and it is surprising to see the seven days of the week finding mention in the puranas.other members can add more information on how week days system was used in the vedic era.with best wishes and blessingspandit arjunwww.rudraksharemedy.com , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:>> Dear friends,> Lunar calender depends on the motion of MOON w.r.t. Sun.> Week days depends on the mean motion of seven planets and the division of one day and -night in 24 hours.One hour is called Hora.> All over the World basis of counting of week days is same.I really do not know when and where the system of week days was introduced. It is my belief that week days were in use in India around 2000B.C.> In India , the MAHUTRAS ARE FIXED BASED ON FIVE LIMBS - Lunar Tithi,> Week days, Karan, YOGA AND Nakshatra in which Moon is placed in transit.> All the above five limbs depend on the position of Sun and moon.> Regards,> Caldecott <todd wrote:> i note that the indian/vedic/hindu system of astrology appears to recognize seven days of > the week - i am wondering about the origin of this in india - have there are always been > seven days? if so, how are they organized? per the lunar calendar? for eg., when a pandit > says chant a mantra on wednesday, friday or saturday to "appease" a particular planet, is the > indian (hindu) reckoning of the day of the week different from the julian calendar?> > thanks... todd> > > > > > > G.K.GOEL> Ph: 09350311433> Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> NEW DELHI-110 076> INDIA> > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Pundit ji , Good and informativ post . thanks Vijaya raghavan guruvayur . , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote:>> dear friends> > the shivapuran, vidveshwar samhita, chapter 14 gives a narration of > how weekdays were given by lord shiva, which i translate succinctly > in english below:> > the first day of the week was meant for lord shiva himself and the> ruler of this day is sun who gives health.> > the second day of the week was meant for shakti and the ruler of> this day is moon who gives wealth.> > the third day of the week was meant for kumaraswamy and the ruler of> this day is mars who cures diseases.> > the fourth day of the week was meant for vishnu and the ruler of> this day is mercury who gives nutrition or development.> > the fifth day of the week was meant for brahma and the ruler of this> day is jupiter who gives longevity of life.> > the sixth day of the week was meant for indra and the ruler of this> day is venus who gives enjoyment or pleasures.> > the seventh day of the week was meant for yama and the ruler of this> day is saturn who removes fear of death.> > worshipping the particular gods on these particular days is> recommended for a person who wish to get the results given by those> respective lords or planets.> > shiv bhakts may wonder why sunday was attributed as the day of lord> shiva when in present practice, most people follow monday for lord > shiva.> > as goelji said, the practice of following pancha angas (panchang) is > only few centuries old and it is surprising to see the seven days of > the week finding mention in the puranas.> > other members can add more information on how week days system was > used in the vedic era.> > with best wishes and blessings> pandit arjun> www.rudraksharemedy.com> > , Gopal Goel > gkgoel1937@ wrote:> >> > Dear friends,> > Lunar calender depends on the motion of MOON w.r.t. Sun.> > Week days depends on the mean motion of seven planets and the > division of one day and -night in 24 hours.One hour is called Hora.> > All over the World basis of counting of week days is same.I > really do not know when and where the system of week days was > introduced. It is my belief that week days were in use in India > around 2000B.C.> > In India , the MAHUTRAS ARE FIXED BASED ON FIVE LIMBS - Lunar > Tithi,> > Week days, Karan, YOGA AND Nakshatra in which Moon is placed in > transit.> > All the above five limbs depend on the position of Sun and moon.> > Regards,> > > Caldecott todd@ wrote:> > i note that the indian/vedic/hindu system of astrology > appears to recognize seven days of > > the week - i am wondering about the origin of this in india - have > there are always been > > seven days? if so, how are they organized? per the lunar calendar? > for eg., when a pandit > > says chant a mantra on wednesday, friday or saturday to "appease" a > particular planet, is the > > indian (hindu) reckoning of the day of the week different from the > julian calendar?> > > > thanks... todd> > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL> > Ph: 09350311433> > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> > NEW DELHI-110 076> > INDIA> > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Dear Todd ji, ==> > it can be established that the notion of a seven day week is found > in ancient indian culture <== Yes, because there is none else at the receiving end, even if we are trying to export it, and ascribe it to other cultures/countries. Even " Yajnavalkya Smiriti " (A text of near vedic period) gives the names of weekdays in order. ==> > is monday as per the julian/gregorian calendar in > fact the same monday in the hindu calendar? <== No, because Indian week days starts with Sunrise and ends with sunrise; where are julian/gregorian weekdays starts at midnight, i believe. Note: Don't let the subject go, there is so much to learn and so much to share.. Persistence will pay of for sure - especially in this group - there are many knowledgeable people around.. Love, Sreenadh , Todd Caldecott <todd wrote: > > thanks all to who responded > > let me expand on my earlier question to get at the heart of what i am > trying to figure out > > it can be established that the notion of a seven day week is found in > ancient indian culture - the antiquity of this notion however has not > been addressed, but for now this doesn't concern me too much > > what is of more interest to me however is in the determination of the > days of the week > > at some point, it seems likely that india adopted the julian/ > gregorian calendar and the pattern of days that the british and > europe were using > > my question is, was this adoption congruous with the hindu convention > of ascribing a particular day of the week to a particular day? > > in other words, is monday as per the julian/gregorian calendar in > fact the same monday in the hindu calendar? > > planets are ascribed to each of these days, and so for remedial > measures that involve chanting a particular mantra on a particular > day, how can we determine that we are chanting the mantra on the > correct day? isn't this an important consideration? > > if find it difficult to believe that we should just accept that the > monday we call monday is dedicated to chandra, or thursday to guru, > without looking at this question more closely > > perhaps the monday that we call monday is actually a thursday, and > vice versa - how is this determined as per indian astrology? here i > am looking for an answer based on authentic rather than syncretic > sources > > i have found some evidence that at one point the days of the week > were tied to a lunar cycle, but with the adoption of the julian > calendar this has long since been abandoned > > certainly the moon passes through the zodiac in its normal cycle, and > as per the zodiac, each sign is attributed to a particular planet, > and so maybe this is the true source of the days of the week, > although because i am not an astrologer i can only speculate > > i have been lurking for a couple weeks, and have been made aware of > the views with regard to what is actually the authentic indian > calendar, and as such this issue seems somewhat similar > > even those of you who don't believe in remedial measures but have > something of value to contribute, i would be interested to hear it > > thanks! > Caldecott, Dip. Cl.H, RH(AHG) > Ayurvedic practitioner, Medical Herbalist > 203 - 1750 East 10th Ave > Vancouver, BC V5N 5K4 CANADA > web: http//:www.toddcaldecott.com > email: todd > tel: (1)778.896.8894 > fax: (1)866.703.2792 > > > On 29-Oct-07, at 10:02 AM, panditarjun2004 wrote: > > > dear friends > > > > the shivapuran, vidveshwar samhita, chapter 14 gives a narration of > > how weekdays were given by lord shiva, which i translate succinctly > > in english below: > > > > the first day of the week was meant for lord shiva himself and the > > ruler of this day is sun who gives health. > > > > the second day of the week was meant for shakti and the ruler of > > this day is moon who gives wealth. > > > > the third day of the week was meant for kumaraswamy and the ruler of > > this day is mars who cures diseases. > > > > the fourth day of the week was meant for vishnu and the ruler of > > this day is mercury who gives nutrition or development. > > > > the fifth day of the week was meant for brahma and the ruler of this > > day is jupiter who gives longevity of life. > > > > the sixth day of the week was meant for indra and the ruler of this > > day is venus who gives enjoyment or pleasures. > > > > the seventh day of the week was meant for yama and the ruler of this > > day is saturn who removes fear of death. > > > > worshipping the particular gods on these particular days is > > recommended for a person who wish to get the results given by those > > respective lords or planets. > > > > shiv bhakts may wonder why sunday was attributed as the day of lord > > shiva when in present practice, most people follow monday for lord > > shiva. > > > > as goelji said, the practice of following pancha angas (panchang) is > > only few centuries old and it is surprising to see the seven days of > > the week finding mention in the puranas. > > > > other members can add more information on how week days system was > > used in the vedic era. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > , Gopal Goel > > <gkgoel1937@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > Lunar calender depends on the motion of MOON w.r.t. Sun. > > > Week days depends on the mean motion of seven planets and the > > division of one day and -night in 24 hours.One hour is called Hora. > > > All over the World basis of counting of week days is same.I > > really do not know when and where the system of week days was > > introduced. It is my belief that week days were in use in India > > around 2000B.C. > > > In India , the MAHUTRAS ARE FIXED BASED ON FIVE LIMBS - Lunar > > Tithi, > > > Week days, Karan, YOGA AND Nakshatra in which Moon is placed in > > transit. > > > All the above five limbs depend on the position of Sun and moon. > > > Regards, > > > > > Caldecott <todd@> wrote: > > > i note that the indian/vedic/hindu system of astrology > > appears to recognize seven days of > > > the week - i am wondering about the origin of this in india - have > > there are always been > > > seven days? if so, how are they organized? per the lunar calendar? > > for eg., when a pandit > > > says chant a mantra on wednesday, friday or saturday to " appease " a > > particular planet, is the > > > indian (hindu) reckoning of the day of the week different from the > > julian calendar? > > > > > > thanks... todd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? 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Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Dear Todd ji, Wait a minute - just know that you are speaking to people who know the logic behind the week day naming clearly; and got a long tradition supporting it. Just collect that info from them - that is the first step. Love, Sreenadh , Todd Caldecott <todd wrote: > > this site has some useful info: > > http://www.friesian.com/week.htm > > just scroll down a bit and you will see mention of a two week cycle > used in alchemy that accounted for the seven days - thus, two > successive solar days were actually ascribed to one week day > > its not hindu/jyotish, i know, but my general opinion is that much of > this knowledge is in fact indian in origin anyway and so perhaps can > be reconciled with it > > best... > Caldecott, Dip. Cl.H, RH(AHG) > Ayurvedic practitioner, Medical Herbalist > 203 - 1750 East 10th Ave > Vancouver, BC V5N 5K4 CANADA > web: http//:www.toddcaldecott.com > email: todd > tel: (1)778.896.8894 > fax: (1)866.703.2792 > > > On 29-Oct-07, at 10:02 AM, panditarjun2004 wrote: > > > dear friends > > > > the shivapuran, vidveshwar samhita, chapter 14 gives a narration of > > how weekdays were given by lord shiva, which i translate succinctly > > in english below: > > > > the first day of the week was meant for lord shiva himself and the > > ruler of this day is sun who gives health. > > > > the second day of the week was meant for shakti and the ruler of > > this day is moon who gives wealth. > > > > the third day of the week was meant for kumaraswamy and the ruler of > > this day is mars who cures diseases. > > > > the fourth day of the week was meant for vishnu and the ruler of > > this day is mercury who gives nutrition or development. > > > > the fifth day of the week was meant for brahma and the ruler of this > > day is jupiter who gives longevity of life. > > > > the sixth day of the week was meant for indra and the ruler of this > > day is venus who gives enjoyment or pleasures. > > > > the seventh day of the week was meant for yama and the ruler of this > > day is saturn who removes fear of death. > > > > worshipping the particular gods on these particular days is > > recommended for a person who wish to get the results given by those > > respective lords or planets. > > > > shiv bhakts may wonder why sunday was attributed as the day of lord > > shiva when in present practice, most people follow monday for lord > > shiva. > > > > as goelji said, the practice of following pancha angas (panchang) is > > only few centuries old and it is surprising to see the seven days of > > the week finding mention in the puranas. > > > > other members can add more information on how week days system was > > used in the vedic era. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > , Gopal Goel > > <gkgoel1937@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > Lunar calender depends on the motion of MOON w.r.t. Sun. > > > Week days depends on the mean motion of seven planets and the > > division of one day and -night in 24 hours.One hour is called Hora. > > > All over the World basis of counting of week days is same.I > > really do not know when and where the system of week days was > > introduced. It is my belief that week days were in use in India > > around 2000B.C. > > > In India , the MAHUTRAS ARE FIXED BASED ON FIVE LIMBS - Lunar > > Tithi, > > > Week days, Karan, YOGA AND Nakshatra in which Moon is placed in > > transit. > > > All the above five limbs depend on the position of Sun and moon. > > > Regards, > > > > > Caldecott <todd@> wrote: > > > i note that the indian/vedic/hindu system of astrology > > appears to recognize seven days of > > > the week - i am wondering about the origin of this in india - have > > there are always been > > > seven days? if so, how are they organized? per the lunar calendar? > > for eg., when a pandit > > > says chant a mantra on wednesday, friday or saturday to " appease " a > > particular planet, is the > > > indian (hindu) reckoning of the day of the week different from the > > julian calendar? > > > > > > thanks... todd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Dear Arjun ji, Let us go a bit more deep into this subject. I know that you will be clearly knowing the Kalahora based logic behind weekday names (The name of the Kalahora lord is ascribed to the week day). If you can elaborate bit on the same it would be useful to all. As far as my knowledge goes, the week day names gets its first mention in Yajnavalkya Smriti. The related sloka is already quoted and discussed in message #1780. Dear check message #1780,could be useful to you. Love, Sreenadh , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friends > > the shivapuran, vidveshwar samhita, chapter 14 gives a narration of > how weekdays were given by lord shiva, which i translate succinctly > in english below: > > the first day of the week was meant for lord shiva himself and the > ruler of this day is sun who gives health. > > the second day of the week was meant for shakti and the ruler of > this day is moon who gives wealth. > > the third day of the week was meant for kumaraswamy and the ruler of > this day is mars who cures diseases. > > the fourth day of the week was meant for vishnu and the ruler of > this day is mercury who gives nutrition or development. > > the fifth day of the week was meant for brahma and the ruler of this > day is jupiter who gives longevity of life. > > the sixth day of the week was meant for indra and the ruler of this > day is venus who gives enjoyment or pleasures. > > the seventh day of the week was meant for yama and the ruler of this > day is saturn who removes fear of death. > > worshipping the particular gods on these particular days is > recommended for a person who wish to get the results given by those > respective lords or planets. > > shiv bhakts may wonder why sunday was attributed as the day of lord > shiva when in present practice, most people follow monday for lord > shiva. > > as goelji said, the practice of following pancha angas (panchang) is > only few centuries old and it is surprising to see the seven days of > the week finding mention in the puranas. > > other members can add more information on how week days system was > used in the vedic era. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > , Gopal Goel > <gkgoel1937@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > Lunar calender depends on the motion of MOON w.r.t. Sun. > > Week days depends on the mean motion of seven planets and the > division of one day and -night in 24 hours.One hour is called Hora. > > All over the World basis of counting of week days is same.I > really do not know when and where the system of week days was > introduced. It is my belief that week days were in use in India > around 2000B.C. > > In India , the MAHUTRAS ARE FIXED BASED ON FIVE LIMBS - Lunar > Tithi, > > Week days, Karan, YOGA AND Nakshatra in which Moon is placed in > transit. > > All the above five limbs depend on the position of Sun and moon. > > Regards, > > > Caldecott <todd@> wrote: > > i note that the indian/vedic/hindu system of astrology > appears to recognize seven days of > > the week - i am wondering about the origin of this in india - have > there are always been > > seven days? if so, how are they organized? per the lunar calendar? > for eg., when a pandit > > says chant a mantra on wednesday, friday or saturday to " appease " a > particular planet, is the > > indian (hindu) reckoning of the day of the week different from the > julian calendar? > > > > thanks... todd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > Ph: 09350311433 > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > INDIA > > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 dear sreenadhji,thanks for the encouragement - i hope to find an answer to this questionwhile the 7 day week system seems to have a wide acceptance, it seems unlikely to me that every culture would have these days synchronized exactlytwo possibilities exist, neither of which is exclusive:1. that everyone has reconciled their days of the week to the european standard2. that the origin for the days of the week is very ancient, and is tied to some universal, natural cyclethe first point seems very likely to me, but creates some problems with scholarship, esp if we considering what are meant to be the exacting and scientific standards of indian astrology; my comment is that despite all attempts to maintain the integrity of "traditional" knowledge, when one looks deeper in any system of belief there is often some degree of syncretism, which while being practical (afterall, who will get the people behind changing monday to thursday, and vice versa), cannot be said to represent authentic knowledgea more recent example of this is the chakra system, which was reworked by the theosophists so that each chakra corresponds to a particular colour of the rainbow (i.e. red, orange, yellow, green, etc), a perspective that isn't found in the "authentic" indian literature (for e.g. Shyam Sundar Goswami's text "Layayoga"), and has spawned an entire generation of new age "light workers" that use the chakras as their main modality, and say they "see" these rainbow coloursfor me, this is more evidence that reality is what you make of it, a thought that in part runs counter to the vedic thinking that there is a"proper" way to do things, and hence the reason why this issue is up for debate (although i do have sympathy with the former school)if the second point were true, it would lend credence to this idea of a global culture - certainly without imposing any personal beliefs, as an ayurvedic practitioner and also medical herbalist, i see many empirical similarities between indigenous indian (ayurvedic) medicine, traditional chinese medicine, western herbal medicine and first nations (american indian), among others - but my thinking around this isn't so much related to a system of belief (i.e. "vedic"), but that wherever people follow the natural law ("dharma") by listening to and living in harmony with their natural environment, you will find congruity and agreement between these systems, even though names, herbs, and treatments may be very differentanyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin and reckoning of the days of the week i would still be interestedthanks!Todd Caldecotttoddwww.toddcaldecott.comOn 29-Oct-07, at 11:03 PM, wrote:Re: days of the weekPosted by: "Sreenadh" sreesog sreesogMon Oct 29, 2007 11:03 pm (PST)Dear Todd ji,==>> it can be established that the notion of a seven day week is found > in ancient indian culture <==Yes, because there is none else at the receiving end, even if we are trying to export it, and ascribe it to other cultures/countries. Even "Yajnavalkya Smiriti" (A text of near vedic period) gives the names of weekdays in order. ==>> is monday as per the julian/gregorian calendar in > fact the same monday in the hindu calendar?<==No, because Indian week days starts with Sunrise and ends with sunrise; where are julian/gregorian weekdays starts at midnight, i believe.Note: Don't let the subject go, there is so much to learn and so much to share.. Persistence will pay of for sure - especially in this group - there are many knowledgeable people around..Love,Sreenadh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Dear Todd Caldecott, >>...anyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin and reckoning of the days of the week i would still be interested<< Well, we already know that there are 7 weekdays and that they are ruled by the 7 planets. What we still need to find out is why the week has 7 days and not say 5, 6 or 9 days. We may never know the truth about this, but we may still make our own deductions. So who knows? The Equinox/vernal-point moves at a mean rate of 50.25 seconds of arch per year. Earlier other values like 52 seconds per year were believed to be more correct. The tropical year is of 365.24 days. If we divide 365.24 by 52 we get 7.02 which may perhaps explain why the week has 7 days. Very friendly, Finn Wandahl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Dear Finn, Sorry to intrude !!! The concept as I understand is: There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format. In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next week start from Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1 again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed. The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing then throughout the year. Hope this helps. Regards Ravi Nair From: finn.wandahlDate: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:21:48 +0000 Re: days of the week Dear Todd Caldecott,>>...anyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin andreckoning of the days of the week i would still be interested<<Well, we already know that there are 7 weekdays and that they areruled by the 7 planets. What we still need to find out is why the weekhas 7 days and not say 5, 6 or 9 days.We may never know the truth about this, but we may still make our owndeductions. So who knows? The Equinox/vernal-point moves at a mean rate of 50.25 seconds of archper year. Earlier other values like 52 seconds per year were believedto be more correct. The tropical year is of 365.24 days. If we divide 365.24 by 52 we get7.02 which may perhaps explain why the week has 7 days. Very friendly,Finn Wandahl Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Dear Ravindran Nair, You are right in your understanding of the concept of the 24 Horas and their relation to the weekdays by counting the 6th planet etc. Thank you for explaining it. :-) Finn , " A. Ravindran Nair " <rain13 wrote: > > > Dear Finn, > > Sorry to intrude !!! > > The concept as I understand is: > > There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format. > > In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next week start from Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1 again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed. > > The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing then throughout the year. > > Hope this helps. > > Regards > > Ravi Nair > > > : finn.wandahl: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:21:48 +0000 Re: days of the week > > > > > Dear Todd Caldecott,>>...anyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin andreckoning of the days of the week i would still be interested<<Well, we already know that there are 7 weekdays and that they areruled by the 7 planets. What we still need to find out is why the weekhas 7 days and not say 5, 6 or 9 days.We may never know the truth about this, but we may still make our owndeductions. So who knows? The Equinox/vernal-point moves at a mean rate of 50.25 seconds of archper year. Earlier other values like 52 seconds per year were believedto be more correct. The tropical year is of 365.24 days. If we divide 365.24 by 52 we get7.02 which may perhaps explain why the week has 7 days. Very friendly,Finn Wandahl _______________ > News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! > http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Please I am sorry to intrude in a matter I know little. I have come across some idea about the days of the week not being in the correct ORDER; as used in present day. The originator of the idea said the correct ORDER OF THE DAYS OF WEEK is: PRESENT DAY SUNDAY = MONDAY( INFLUENCE OF THE MOON) PRESENT DAY MONDAY = WEDNESDAY( MERCURY) PRESENT DAY TUESDAY = FRIDAY ( VENUS ) PRESENT DAY WEDNESDAY = SUNDAY ( SUN ) PRESENT DAY THURSDAY = TUESDAY ( MARS ) PRESENT DAY FRIDAY = THURSDAY (JUPITER ) PRESENT DAY SATURDAY = SATURDAY ( SATURN ) I have been trying to observe this ideas personally to know the truth. I think it better to share this unknown thought. Thanks. I wish you well. C.A.O. SAWYERR"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13 wrote: Dear Finn, Sorry to intrude !!! The concept as I understand is: There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format. In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next week start from Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1 again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed. The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing then throughout the year. Hope this helps. Regards Ravi Nair From: finn.wandahl (AT) mail (DOT) dkDate: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:21:48 +0000 Re: days of the week Dear Todd Caldecott,>>...anyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin andreckoning of the days of the week i would still be interested<<Well, we already know that there are 7 weekdays and that they areruled by the 7 planets. What we still need to find out is why the weekhas 7 days and not say 5, 6 or 9 days.We may never know the truth about this, but we may still make our owndeductions. So who knows? The Equinox/vernal-point moves at a mean rate of 50.25 seconds of archper year. Earlier other values like 52 seconds per year were believedto be more correct. The tropical year is of 365.24 days. If we divide 365.24 by 52 we get7.02 which may perhaps explain why the week has 7 days. Very friendly,Finn Wandahl Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Dear Todd ji, ==> > 1. that everyone has reconciled their days of the week to the > european standard <== The european standard came in 15th century AD and the weekdays was there in india in wide use at least from BC 300 and possibly from even earlier period. So the statement just generates a smile. ==> > 2. that the origin for the days of the week is very ancient, and is tied to some universal, natural cycle <== Yes, it is! ==> > for me, this is more evidence that reality is what you make of it <== Firstly know that there are 2 thinking methods - analytical (scientific) and holistic (integral); the first starts with facts and the second with concepts. (The following document might give more clarity about this: Sreenadh/ Base_of_Astrology.doc). That is why the Ayurveda concepts of Vata, Pitta and Kapha or the psychological concept of Mind, or the Tantric concept of Kundalini or Chakras you cannot find by dissecting the body. It is a fundamental approach difference - the difference in possible thought methodologies - which you or me cannot resolve. ==> > if anyone does know the true origin and reckoning > of the days of the week i would still be interested <== I will try to share what I know about the same in my next mail - but provide me a day or two to prepare a clean and detailed write-up on the same. When info is shared it should be in a systematic way - helping even for future reference - i believe. Love, Sreenadh , Todd Caldecott <todd wrote: > > dear sreenadhji, > > thanks for the encouragement - i hope to find an answer to this question > > while the 7 day week system seems to have a wide acceptance, it seems > unlikely to me that every culture would have these days synchronized > exactly > > two possibilities exist, neither of which is exclusive: > > 1. that everyone has reconciled their days of the week to the > european standard > 2. that the origin for the days of the week is very ancient, and is > tied to some universal, natural cycle > > the first point seems very likely to me, but creates some problems > with scholarship, esp if we considering what are meant to be the > exacting and scientific standards of indian astrology; my comment is > that despite all attempts to maintain the integrity of " traditional " > knowledge, when one looks deeper in any system of belief there is > often some degree of syncretism, which while being practical > (afterall, who will get the people behind changing monday to > thursday, and vice versa), cannot be said to represent authentic > knowledge > > a more recent example of this is the chakra system, which was > reworked by the theosophists so that each chakra corresponds to a > particular colour of the rainbow (i.e. red, orange, yellow, green, > etc), a perspective that isn't found in the " authentic " indian > literature (for e.g. Shyam Sundar Goswami's text " Layayoga " ), and has > spawned an entire generation of new age " light workers " that use the > chakras as their main modality, and say they " see " these rainbow colours > > for me, this is more evidence that reality is what you make of it, a > thought that in part runs counter to the vedic thinking that there is > a " proper " way to do things, and hence the reason why this issue is up > for debate (although i do have sympathy with the former school) > > if the second point were true, it would lend credence to this idea of > a global culture - certainly without imposing any personal beliefs, > as an ayurvedic practitioner and also medical herbalist, i see many > empirical similarities between indigenous indian (ayurvedic) > medicine, traditional chinese medicine, western herbal medicine and > first nations (american indian), among others - but my thinking > around this isn't so much related to a system of belief (i.e. > " vedic " ), but that wherever people follow the natural law ( " dharma " ) > by listening to and living in harmony with their natural environment, > you will find congruity and agreement between these systems, even > though names, herbs, and treatments may be very different > > anyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin and reckoning > of the days of the week i would still be interested > > thanks! > Caldecott > todd > www.toddcaldecott.com > > On 29-Oct-07, at 11:03 PM, > wrote: > Re: days of the week > > Posted by: " Sreenadh " sreesog sreesog > > Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:03 pm (PST) > > Dear Todd ji, > ==> > > it can be established that the notion of a seven day week is found > > in ancient indian culture > <== > Yes, because there is none else at the receiving end, even if we > are trying to export it, and ascribe it to other cultures/countries. > Even " Yajnavalkya Smiriti " (A text of near vedic period) gives the > names of weekdays in order. > ==> > > is monday as per the julian/gregorian calendar in > > fact the same monday in the hindu calendar? > <== > No, because Indian week days starts with Sunrise and ends with > sunrise; where are julian/gregorian weekdays starts at midnight, i > believe. > Note: Don't let the subject go, there is so much to learn and so > much to share.. Persistence will pay of for sure - especially in > this group - there are many knowledgeable people around.. > Love, > Sreenadh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Dear Finn ji, Thanks for the very valuable observation you presented - ==> > Well, we already know that there are 7 weekdays and that they are > ruled by the 7 planets. What we still need to find out is why the > week has 7 days and not say 5, 6 or 9 days. > We may never know the truth about this, but we may still make our > own deductions. So who knows? <== Yes, it is a major question - and any one who try to solve the question of week days should address this question as well. Thanks for the good thoughts shared.. Love, Sreenadh , " Finn Wandahl " <finn.wandahl wrote: > > Dear Todd Caldecott, > > >>...anyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin and > reckoning of the days of the week i would still be interested<< > > Well, we already know that there are 7 weekdays and that they are > ruled by the 7 planets. What we still need to find out is why the week > has 7 days and not say 5, 6 or 9 days. > > We may never know the truth about this, but we may still make our own > deductions. So who knows? > > The Equinox/vernal-point moves at a mean rate of 50.25 seconds of arch > per year. Earlier other values like 52 seconds per year were believed > to be more correct. > > The tropical year is of 365.24 days. If we divide 365.24 by 52 we get > 7.02 which may perhaps explain why the week has 7 days. > > Very friendly, > Finn Wandahl > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Dear Ravi ji, Correct and exact! But possibly the description given is not clear enough for Todd ji to understand since he seems to be totally unaware of this ancient understanding behind the names given to week days. Even when I prepare ad present a document that discuss the origin of weekday names - it would be just an expansion or elaboration of the concepts presented in your mail - since it is the understanding shared by crores of people in india. Thanks for sharing this info, which I request Todd ji to refer and look into in detail. Love, Sreenadh , " A. Ravindran Nair " <rain13 wrote: > > > Dear Finn, > > Sorry to intrude !!! > > The concept as I understand is: > > There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format. > > In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next week start from Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1 again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed. > > The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing then throughout the year. > > Hope this helps. > > Regards > > Ravi Nair > > > : finn.wandahl: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:21:48 +0000 Re: days of the week > > > > > Dear Todd Caldecott,>>...anyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin andreckoning of the days of the week i would still be interested<<Well, we already know that there are 7 weekdays and that they areruled by the 7 planets. What we still need to find out is why the weekhas 7 days and not say 5, 6 or 9 days.We may never know the truth about this, but we may still make our owndeductions. So who knows? The Equinox/vernal-point moves at a mean rate of 50.25 seconds of archper year. Earlier other values like 52 seconds per year were believedto be more correct. The tropical year is of 365.24 days. If we divide 365.24 by 52 we get7.02 which may perhaps explain why the week has 7 days. Very friendly,Finn Wandahl _______________ > News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! > http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Dear Todd ji, Here comes some more clarification about the concept described by Ravi ji. Catch it too! Goal ji thanks for sharing. Love, Sreenadh , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > In ancient times the days were fixed after the names of the seven planets. > Arrange the planets according to their motion as apparent when viewed > from the Earth. > Slowest Saturn,Jupiter, Mars, Sun , Venus, Mercury and fastest Moon. > The day and night is divided in 24 parts, and each part is called " HORA " > The name of the day is kept on the basis of the lord of the first Hora of the day. > The lord of the Horas according to the order of the planets mentioned above. > Let us start from Friday.The first Hora will be of Venus ,followed by Mercury,NOON,Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, SUN and then the order of the cycle will go on repeating on perpetual basis. > In THIS Manner , 24 horas will repeat following this order.The 25th Hora will be > of Saturn, thus the next day will be called Saturday, > and so on. > THIS IS A CLOSE CYCLE , WHICH GO ON REPEATING IN PERPETUAL MANNER. > Varaha Mihira in Chapter 12 Sloka 31 of 'SURYA SIDDHANT' refers to this order of planetary arrangement. > Regards, > > > > " A. Ravindran Nair " <rain13 wrote: > > Dear Finn, > > Sorry to intrude !!! > > The concept as I understand is: > > There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format. > > In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next week start from Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1 again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed. > > The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing then throughout the year. > > Hope this helps. > > Regards > > Ravi Nair > > > > > finn.wandahl > Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:21:48 +0000 > Re: days of the week > > Dear Todd Caldecott, > > >>...anyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin and > reckoning of the days of the week i would still be interested<< > > Well, we already know that there are 7 weekdays and that they are > ruled by the 7 planets. What we still need to find out is why the week > has 7 days and not say 5, 6 or 9 days. > > We may never know the truth about this, but we may still make our own > deductions. So who knows? > > The Equinox/vernal-point moves at a mean rate of 50.25 seconds of arch > per year. Earlier other values like 52 seconds per year were believed > to be more correct. > > The tropical year is of 365.24 days. If we divide 365.24 by 52 we get > 7.02 which may perhaps explain why the week has 7 days. > > Very friendly, > Finn Wandahl > > Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out! > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Dear Christopher ji, The question is - Why the statement " the days of the week not being in the correct ORDER " ? To say that some thing is " NOT in CORRECT order " first we should be knowing well the concept behind the derivation of the " available order " right? If one is not aware of the logic behind the initial order itself, how can he suggest some new correct order? ) Now comes the next question - What is the new concept behind the new order proposed? Or is it that it is also a possibly baseless conclusion as the first one? What the 'originator of the idea' has to say on this? Love, Sreenadh , christopher sawyerr <olusawyerr wrote: > > Please I am sorry to intrude in a matter I know little. I have come across some idea about the days of the week not being in the correct ORDER; as used in present day. > The originator of the idea said the correct ORDER OF THE DAYS OF WEEK is: > > PRESENT DAY SUNDAY = MONDAY( INFLUENCE OF THE MOON) > PRESENT DAY MONDAY = WEDNESDAY( MERCURY) > PRESENT DAY TUESDAY = FRIDAY ( VENUS ) > PRESENT DAY WEDNESDAY = SUNDAY ( SUN ) > PRESENT DAY THURSDAY = TUESDAY ( MARS ) > PRESENT DAY FRIDAY = THURSDAY (JUPITER ) > PRESENT DAY SATURDAY = SATURDAY ( SATURN ) > > I have been trying to observe this ideas personally to know the truth. > I think it better to share this unknown thought. > Thanks. I wish you well. > C.A.O. SAWYERR > > " A. Ravindran Nair " <rain13 wrote: > > Dear Finn, > > Sorry to intrude !!! > > The concept as I understand is: > > There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format. > > In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next week start from Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1 again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed. > > The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing then throughout the year. > > Hope this helps. > > Regards > > Ravi Nair > > > > > finn.wandahl > Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:21:48 +0000 > Re: days of the week > > Dear Todd Caldecott, > > >>...anyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin and > reckoning of the days of the week i would still be interested<< > > Well, we already know that there are 7 weekdays and that they are > ruled by the 7 planets. What we still need to find out is why the week > has 7 days and not say 5, 6 or 9 days. > > We may never know the truth about this, but we may still make our own > deductions. So who knows? > > The Equinox/vernal-point moves at a mean rate of 50.25 seconds of arch > per year. Earlier other values like 52 seconds per year were believed > to be more correct. > > The tropical year is of 365.24 days. If we divide 365.24 by 52 we get > 7.02 which may perhaps explain why the week has 7 days. > > Very friendly, > Finn Wandahl > > Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Hi Ravi,Many thanks for your comments. What still puzzles me is HOW we decide which day of the week it is, not the order - that I can can accept as per your explanation (thank you!). But what external evidences tell us that today is in fact Thursday? My thought was that it must be based on some natural cycle, but so far nobody has been able to specify this. It appears from my perspective that deciding that today is Thursday is a random, evolutionary process, as opposed to being something that can be computed definitively. As I said, this would seem to be of great importance in certain remedial measures where the days of the week are concerned. best to all...Todd Caldecotttoddwww.toddcaldecott.comOn 1-Nov-07, at 6:50 AM, wrote:The concept as I understand is:There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format.In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next week start from Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1 again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed.The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing then throughout the year. Hope this helps.RegardsRavi Nair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Dear Sreenadhji, Thanks for the compliments. Of late, I could not participate much in the discussions as I am having tough time both officially and personally. I will get clear of these by end December I believe. But used to read the messages sometimes but could not help much time to think and prepare comments to participate in the discussion. Regards Ravi Nair From: sreesogDate: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:16:41 +0000 Re: days of the week Dear Ravi ji,Correct and exact! But possibly the description given is not clear enough for Todd ji to understand since he seems to be totally unaware of this ancient understanding behind the names given to week days. Even when I prepare ad present a document that discuss the origin of weekday names - it would be just an expansion or elaboration of the concepts presented in your mail - since it is the understanding shared by crores of people in india.Thanks for sharing this info, which I request Todd ji to refer and look into in detail. Love,Sreenadh , "A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13 wrote:>> > Dear Finn,> > Sorry to intrude !!!> > The concept as I understand is:> > There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format.> > In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next week start from Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1 again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed.> > The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing then throughout the year. > > Hope this helps.> > Regards> > Ravi Nair> > > > > > > > > > : finn.wandahl: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:21:48 +0000 Re: days of the week> > > > > Dear Todd Caldecott,>>...anyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin andreckoning of the days of the week i would still be interested<<Well, we already know that there are 7 weekdays and that they areruled by the 7 planets. What we still need to find out is why the weekhas 7 days and not say 5, 6 or 9 days.We may never know the truth about this, but we may still make our owndeductions. So who knows? The Equinox/vernal-point moves at a mean rate of 50.25 seconds of archper year. Earlier other values like 52 seconds per year were believedto be more correct. The tropical year is of 365.24 days. If we divide 365.24 by 52 we get7.02 which may perhaps explain why the week has 7 days. Very friendly,Finn Wandahl > > > > > > > ________> News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now!> http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx> Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Dear Yes, it is very difficult to identify the day. Thithis can be somewhat identified by looking at the size of the Moon and the angle from Sun. But such a marking is not possible for Sun. Hope we will have an answer some day. Regards, Ravi Nair From: toddDate: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:26:26 -0700 re: days of the week Hi Ravi, Many thanks for your comments. What still puzzles me is HOW we decide which day of the week it is, not the order - that I can can accept as per your explanation (thank you!). But what external evidences tell us that today is in fact Thursday? My thought was that it must be based on some natural cycle, but so far nobody has been able to specify this. It appears from my perspective that deciding that today is Thursday is a random, evolutionary process, as opposed to being something that can be computed definitively. As I said, this would seem to be of great importance in certain remedial measures where the days of the week are concerned. best to all... Caldecott todd (AT) toddcaldecott (DOT) com www.toddcaldecott.com On 1-Nov-07, at 6:50 AM, wrote: The concept as I understand is: There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format. In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next week start from Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1 again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed. The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing then throughout the year. Hope this helps. Regards Ravi Nair Discover the new Windows Vista Learn more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Namaste Ravi Please explain the background towards choice of 24 Horas (Hrs) in a Day inaddition to choice of 6th Planet for each subsequent Hora? I have always been intrigued as to Why 24 Horas and Not more or less inaddition to the “cyclic” selection of the 6th Planet …… Many thanks ….. Jai Sita Ram Ram On Behalf Of A. Ravindran Nair 01 November 2007 06:04 To: RE: Re: days of the week Dear Finn, Sorry to intrude !!! The concept as I understand is: There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format. In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next week start from Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1 again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed. The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing then throughout the year. Hope this helps. Regards Ravi Nair finn.wandahl (AT) mail (DOT) dk Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:21:48 +0000 Re: days of the week Dear Todd Caldecott, >>...anyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin and reckoning of the days of the week i would still be interested<< Well, we already know that there are 7 weekdays and that they are ruled by the 7 planets. What we still need to find out is why the week has 7 days and not say 5, 6 or 9 days. We may never know the truth about this, but we may still make our own deductions. So who knows? The Equinox/vernal-point moves at a mean rate of 50.25 seconds of arch per year. Earlier other values like 52 seconds per year were believed to be more correct. The tropical year is of 365.24 days. If we divide 365.24 by 52 we get 7.02 which may perhaps explain why the week has 7 days. Very friendly, Finn Wandahl Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Dear Ram, Good thinking! I am not an expert, but will list out my views. For earth to complete one 360 deg rotation around the Sun, it needs to pass through 24 muhurthas of 2-1/2 nazhika as represented by Kalachakra. These 24 muhurthas are called Kalahoras from where the concept of 24 hour came into existence. Hence 1 hour is equal to 2-1/2 nazhika. It is just like to concept of earth's one 360 rotation around the Sun is passing through 12 different rasis. Hope experts shall put in more light into this discussion chain. Regards Ravi Nair From: rkjaswalDate: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:33:04 +0000 Re: days of the week Namaste Ravi Please explain the background towards choice of 24 Horas (Hrs) in a Day inaddition to choice of 6th Planet for each subsequent Hora? I have always been intrigued as to Why 24 Horas and Not more or less inaddition to the “cyclic” selection of the 6th Planet …… Many thanks ….. Jai Sita Ram Ram On Behalf Of A. Ravindran Nair01 November 2007 06:04 Subject: RE: Re: days of the week Dear Finn, Sorry to intrude !!! The concept as I understand is: There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format. In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next week start from Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1 again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed. The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing then throughout the year. Hope this helps. Regards Ravi Nair From: finn.wandahl (AT) mail (DOT) dkDate: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:21:48 +0000 Re: days of the week Dear Todd Caldecott,>>...anyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin andreckoning of the days of the week i would still be interested<<Well, we already know that there are 7 weekdays and that they areruled by the 7 planets. What we still need to find out is why the weekhas 7 days and not say 5, 6 or 9 days.We may never know the truth about this, but we may still make our owndeductions. So who knows? The Equinox/vernal-point moves at a mean rate of 50.25 seconds of archper year. Earlier other values like 52 seconds per year were believedto be more correct. The tropical year is of 365.24 days. If we divide 365.24 by 52 we get7.02 which may perhaps explain why the week has 7 days. Very friendly,Finn Wandahl Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out! Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Dear Ravi ji, Thaks a lot - we are ready to wait. When waiting could provide beautiful and beneficial result, I don't think anyone would be reluctant to wait - at all. Please squeeze out some more time for the group - as well as your personal writing/documentation efforts for astrology. Love, Sreenadh , " A. Ravindran Nair " <rain13 wrote: > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > Thanks for the compliments. > > Of late, I could not participate much in the discussions as I am having tough time both officially and personally. I will get clear of these by end December I believe. > > But used to read the messages sometimes but could not help much time to think and prepare comments to participate in the discussion. > > Regards > > Ravi Nair > > > > : sreesog: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:16:41 +0000 Re: days of the week > > > > > Dear Ravi ji,Correct and exact! But possibly the description given is not clear enough for Todd ji to understand since he seems to be totally unaware of this ancient understanding behind the names given to week days. Even when I prepare ad present a document that discuss the origin of weekday names - it would be just an expansion or elaboration of the concepts presented in your mail - since it is the understanding shared by crores of people in india.Thanks for sharing this info, which I request Todd ji to refer and look into in detail. Love,Sreenadh , " A. Ravindran Nair " <rain13@> wrote:>> > Dear Finn,> > Sorry to intrude !!!> > The concept as I understand is:> > There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format.> > In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next week start from Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1 again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed.> > The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing then throughout the year. > > Hope this helps.> > Regards> > Ravi Nair> > > > > > > > > > @: finn.wandahl@: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:21:48 +0000 Re: days of the week> > > > > Dear Todd Caldecott,>>...anyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin andreckoning of the days of the week i would still be interested<<Well, we already know that there are 7 weekdays and that they areruled by the 7 planets. What we still need to find out is why the weekhas 7 days and not say 5, 6 or 9 days.We may never know the truth about this, but we may still make our owndeductions. So who knows? The Equinox/vernal-point moves at a mean rate of 50.25 seconds of archper year. Earlier other values like 52 seconds per year were believedto be more correct. The tropical year is of 365.24 days. If we divide 365.24 by 52 we get7.02 which may perhaps explain why the week has 7 days. Very friendly,Finn Wandahl > > > > > > > ________> News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now!> http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx> _______________ > Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! > http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx? wx_action=create & wx_url=/friends.aspx & mkt=en-us > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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