days of the week

November 2, 2007

Dear Todd ji and Ravi ji,

==>

But what external evidences tell us that today is in fact Thursday?

My thought was that it must be based on some natural cycle, but so

far nobody has been able to specify this. It appears from my

perspective that deciding that today is Thursday is a random,

evolutionary process, as opposed to being something that can be

computed definitively.

<==

The week days ARE based on a natural cycle - some connects it to

the cycle of planet names in the solar system, and chandra hari

connects it with the breath pattern. In essence, it is also an

concept evolved from age old concept originated from " Etha pindande

tatha Brahmande " (The universe and the atom are the similar or The

solar system and human body are similar).

Love,

Sreenadh

, " A. Ravindran Nair "

<rain13 wrote:

>

> Dear

>

> Yes, it is very difficult to identify the day. Thithis can be

somewhat identified by looking at the size of the Moon and the angle

from Sun. But such a marking is not possible for Sun. Hope we will

have an answer some day.

>

> Regards,

>

> Ravi Nair

>

> : todd: Thu, 1 Nov 2007

09:26:26 -0700 re: days of the week

>

> Hi Ravi,

>

> Many thanks for your comments. What still puzzles me is HOW we

decide which day of the week it is, not the order - that I can can

accept as per your explanation (thank you!). But what external

evidences tell us that today is in fact Thursday? My thought was

that it must be based on some natural cycle, but so far nobody has

been able to specify this. It appears from my perspective that

deciding that today is Thursday is a random, evolutionary process, as

opposed to being something that can be computed definitively. As I

said, this would seem to be of great importance in certain remedial

measures where the days of the week are concerned.

>

> best to all...

>

Caldecott

> todd

> www.toddcaldecott.com

>

> On 1-Nov-07, at 6:50 AM,

wrote:

> The concept as I understand is:

>

> There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE

is the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify

this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on

Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the

order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from it

i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this order

the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury and the day is deemed

to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg turn and the

starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of

another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of

the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is

Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,

Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format.

>

> In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and

automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun,

hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next week start from

Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of

WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different

repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So from

the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1

again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed.

>

> The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets

different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays

modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to

be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing then

throughout the year.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Regards

>

> Ravi Nair

>

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November 2, 2007

Dear Friends, The basis of caluclating week days was given in my previous mail . Is thas is not acceptable? Please clarify: "In ancient times the days were fixed after the names of the seven planets. Arrange the planets according to their motion as apparent when viewed from the Earth. Slowest Saturn,Jupiter, Mars, Sun , Venus, Mercury and fastest Moon. The day and night is divided in 24 parts, and each part is called "HORA" The name of the day is kept on the basis of the lord of the first Hora of the day. The lord of the Horas according to the order of the planets mentioned above. Let us start from Friday.The first Hora will be of Venus ,followed by Mercury,NOON,Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, SUN and then the order of the cycle will go on repeating on perpetual basis. In THIS Manner , 24 horas will repeat following this

order.The 25th Hora will be of Saturn, thus the next day will be called Saturday, and so on. THIS IS A CLOSE CYCLE , WHICH GO ON REPEATING IN PERPETUAL MANNER. Varaha Mihira in Chapter 12 Sloka 31 of 'SURYA SIDDHANT' refers to this order of planetary arrangement." Regards, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Todd ji and Ravi ji,==>But what external evidences tell us that today is in fact Thursday? My thought was that it must be based

on some natural cycle, but so far nobody has been able to specify this. It appears from my perspective that deciding that today is Thursday is a random, evolutionary process, as opposed to being something that can be computed definitively. <==The week days ARE based on a natural cycle - some connects it to the cycle of planet names in the solar system, and chandra hari connects it with the breath pattern. In essence, it is also an concept evolved from age old concept originated from "Etha pindande tatha Brahmande" (The universe and the atom are the similar or The solar system and human body are similar).Love,Sreenadh , "A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13 wrote:>> > Dear > > Yes, it is very difficult to identify the day. Thithis can be

somewhat identified by looking at the size of the Moon and the angle from Sun. But such a marking is not possible for Sun. Hope we will have an answer some day.> > Regards,> > Ravi Nair> > > > : todd: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:26:26 -0700 re: days of the week> > > > > > Hi Ravi,> > Many thanks for your comments. What still puzzles me is HOW we decide which day of the week it is, not the order - that I can can accept as per your explanation (thank you!). But what external evidences tell us that today is in fact Thursday? My thought was that it must be based on some natural cycle, but so far nobody has been able to specify this. It appears from my perspective that deciding that today is Thursday is a random, evolutionary process, as opposed to

being something that can be computed definitively. As I said, this would seem to be of great importance in certain remedial measures where the days of the week are concerned. > > best to all...> Caldecott> todd www.toddcaldecott.com> > On 1-Nov-07, at 6:50 AM, wrote:> The concept as I understand is:> > There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday

will be of Mercury and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format.> > In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next week start from Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1 again from Sun

and the subsequent cycle followed.> > The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing then throughout the year. > > Hope this helps.> > Regards> > Ravi Nair> > > > > > > > > ________> Discover the new Windows Vista> http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista & mkt=en-US & form=QBRE>G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA

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November 2, 2007

Dear Mr. Ravi, Kindly read BPHS , WHERE Maharishi Parasara explained as to how calculate the Hora ,Bhava and Ghati Lagnas.Hora Lagna indicate the means of sustenance of life. This lagna moves one sign in one hour. This is the reason , ancient rishi's divided a day in 24 parts. Hora lagna is also used to predict longevity. The word Hora is derived from the word 'AHORATRI' Regads, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal wrote: Namaste Ravi Please explain the background towards choice of 24 Horas (Hrs) in a Day inaddition to choice of 6th Planet for each subsequent Hora? I have always been intrigued as to Why 24 Horas and Not more or less inaddition to the “cyclic” selection of the 6th Planet …… Many

thanks ….. Jai Sita Ram Ram On Behalf Of A. Ravindran Nair01 November 2007 06:04 Subject: RE: Re: days of the week Dear Finn, Sorry to intrude !!! The concept as I understand is: There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,

Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format. In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next week start from Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1 again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed. The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing then throughout the year.

Hope this helps. Regards Ravi Nair From: finn.wandahl (AT) mail (DOT) dkDate: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:21:48 +0000 Re: days of the week Dear Todd Caldecott,>>...anyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin andreckoning of the days

of the week i would still be interested<<Well, we already know that there are 7 weekdays and that they areruled by the 7 planets. What we still need to find out is why the weekhas 7 days and not say 5, 6 or 9 days.We may never know the truth about this, but we may still make our owndeductions. So who knows? The Equinox/vernal-point moves at a mean rate of 50.25 seconds of archper year. Earlier other values like 52 seconds per year were believedto be more correct. The tropical year is of 365.24 days. If we divide 365.24 by 52 we get7.02 which may perhaps explain why the week has 7 days. Very friendly,Finn Wandahl Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out! G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA

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dear sreenadhji, you have said in the below 3rd para that - week days are natural cycle... - sri chandra hari connects it with breath pattern. what is this breath pattern? can you please be kind enough to explain it? kind regards, r.achar.Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Todd ji and Ravi ji,==>But what external evidences tell us that today is in fact Thursday? My thought was that it must be based on some natural cycle, but so far nobody has been able to specify this. It

appears from my perspective that deciding that today is Thursday is a random, evolutionary process, as opposed to being something that can be computed definitively. <==The week days ARE based on a natural cycle - some connects it to the cycle of planet names in the solar system, and chandra hari connects it with the breath pattern. In essence, it is also an concept evolved from age old concept originated from "Etha pindande tatha Brahmande" (The universe and the atom are the similar or The solar system and human body are similar).Love,Sreenadh , "A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13 wrote:>> > Dear > > Yes, it is very difficult to identify the day. Thithis can be somewhat identified by looking at the size of the Moon and the angle from Sun.

But such a marking is not possible for Sun. Hope we will have an answer some day.> > Regards,> > Ravi Nair> > > > : todd: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:26:26 -0700 re: days of the week> > > > > > Hi Ravi,> > Many thanks for your comments. What still puzzles me is HOW we decide which day of the week it is, not the order - that I can can accept as per your explanation (thank you!). But what external evidences tell us that today is in fact Thursday? My thought was that it must be based on some natural cycle, but so far nobody has been able to specify this. It appears from my perspective that deciding that today is Thursday is a random, evolutionary process, as opposed to being something that can be computed definitively. As I said, this would seem to be

of great importance in certain remedial measures where the days of the week are concerned. > > best to all...> Caldecott> todd www.toddcaldecott.com> > On 1-Nov-07, at 6:50 AM, wrote:> The concept as I understand is:> > There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one

360 deg turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format.> > In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next week start from Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1 again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed.> > The names of the days earlier clearly

represented the 7 planets different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing then throughout the year. > > Hope this helps.> > Regards> > Ravi Nair> > > > > > > > > ________> Discover the new Windows Vista> http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista & mkt=en-US & form=QBRE>

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November 2, 2007

dear friend,

The Hindu system has a wonderful system of Hora. Every hour every day

is dedicated to a planet, the order being the distance of the planet

FROM the SUN.

In the process the names of the days are given as per this hora system

in that the day is dedicated to that planet, hora of which starts that

day.

Thus, Sunday goes to the day on which first hora belongs to Sun,

Monday is the day on which first hora belongs to Moon etc.

Thus naming of the weeks is perfectly astronomical and obviously

Indian. This system had been adopted by the world later.

Hope I am clear.

regards,

kishore patnaik

98492 70729

On 11/2/07, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:

> Dear Mr. Ravi,

> Kindly read BPHS , WHERE Maharishi Parasara explained as to how calculate

> the Hora ,Bhava and Ghati Lagnas.Hora Lagna indicate the means of sustenance

> of life. This lagna moves one sign in one hour.

> This is the reason , ancient rishi's divided a day in 24 parts.

> Hora lagna is also used to predict longevity.

> The word Hora is derived from the word 'AHORATRI'

> Regads,

> Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal wrote:

> Namaste Ravi

>

> Please explain the background towards choice of 24 Horas (Hrs) in a Day

> inaddition to choice of 6th Planet for each subsequent Hora? I have always

> been intrigued as to Why 24 Horas and Not more or less inaddition to the

> " cyclic " selection of the 6th Planet ……

>

> Many thanks …..

>

> Jai Sita Ram

>

> Ram

>

> On Behalf Of A. Ravindran

> Nair

> 01 November 2007 06:04

>

> RE: Re: days of the week

>

> Dear Finn,

>

> Sorry to intrude !!!

>

> The concept as I understand is:

>

> There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is the

> supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify this day it has

> been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of the 6th

> planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the next

> hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will

> be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury

> and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg

> turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start

> of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the

> 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day

> (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,

> Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format.

>

> In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically

> the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day

> (Sunday) and again the next week start from Sunday and in order to avoid

> identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to

> differenciate between different repetition days. So is the concept of

> Months, Year, yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th

> day it repeated from 1 again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed.

>

> The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets different

> names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday,

> Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of

> months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the

> climatic condition prevailing then throughout the year.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Regards

>

> Ravi Nair

>

> finn.wandahl

> Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:21:48 +0000

> Re: days of the week

> Dear Todd Caldecott,

>

> >>...anyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin and

> reckoning of the days of the week i would still be interested<<

>

> Well, we already know that there are 7 weekdays and that they are

> ruled by the 7 planets. What we still need to find out is why the week

> has 7 days and not say 5, 6 or 9 days.

>

> We may never know the truth about this, but we may still make our own

> deductions. So who knows?

>

> The Equinox/vernal-point moves at a mean rate of 50.25 seconds of arch

> per year. Earlier other values like 52 seconds per year were believed

> to be more correct.

>

> The tropical year is of 365.24 days. If we divide 365.24 by 52 we get

> 7.02 which may perhaps explain why the week has 7 days.

>

> Very friendly,

> Finn Wandahl

>

> Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check

> it out!

>

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> Ph: 09350311433

> Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

> NEW DELHI-110 076

> INDIA

>

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November 2, 2007

Dear Goel ji,

The basis you gave is truly acceptable. But the question (given

below) raised by Todd ji was of a different perspective. Let us re-

read the question.

==>

> > But what external evidences tell us that today is in fact

> Thursday?

<==

Of course today can be 'Thursday' (Guru Var = Jupiter's day) because

the first Kalahora for today begins with the hora (hour) of Jupiter.

But the question raised above is " WHY the first Kalahora should be of

Jupiter at all - for today? " . The following lines clarifies Todd ji's

doubts -

==>

> My thought was that it must be based on some natural cycle, but so

> far nobody has been able to specify this. It appears from my

> perspective that deciding that today is Thursday is a random,

> evolutionary process, as opposed to being something that can be

> computed definitively.

<==

The following logic stated by you, could be one of the reasons.

==>

> Arrange the planets according to their motion as apparent when

> viewed from the Earth. Slowest Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun , Venus,

> Mercury and fastest Moon.

> Let us start from Friday.The first Hora will be of Venus ,followed

> by Mercury,NOON,Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, SUN and then the order of

> the cycle will go on repeating on perpetual basis.

> In THIS Manner , 24 horas will repeat following this order.The 25th

> Hora will be of Saturn, thus the next day will be called Saturday,

> and so on. THIS IS A CLOSE CYCLE , WHICH GO ON REPEATING IN

PERPETUAL MANNER.

<==

But is that all? Could there be other possible reasons - some thing

that links the weeks days with some NATURAL RHYTHM, (Apart from

the 'closed circle' you mentioned) making 'Jupiter' the ONLY possible

owner of the first hora of Thursday? There could be. One such idea is

the correlation with breath patter which Chadra Hari provides. There

could be other logical possibilities as well.

It was this second question of Todd ji with a different perspective

I was addressing; the first question 'What is the logic behind week

day names?' you have answered perfectly - and acceptable to all of

us, certainly me.

Love,

Sreenadh

, Gopal Goel

<gkgoel1937 wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

> The basis of caluclating week days was given in my previous mail .

Is

> thas is not acceptable? Please clarify:

>

> " In ancient times the days were fixed after the names of the seven

> planets.

> Arrange the planets according to their motion as apparent when

viewed

> from the Earth.

> Slowest Saturn,Jupiter, Mars, Sun , Venus, Mercury and fastest Moon.

> The day and night is divided in 24 parts, and each part is

> called " HORA "

> The name of the day is kept on the basis of the lord of the first

> Hora of the day.

> The lord of the Horas according to the order of the planets

mentioned

> above.

> Let us start from Friday.The first Hora will be of Venus ,followed

by

> Mercury,NOON,Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, SUN and then the order of the

> cycle will go on repeating on perpetual basis.

> In THIS Manner , 24 horas will repeat following this order.The 25th

> Hora will be

> of Saturn, thus the next day will be called Saturday,

> and so on.

> THIS IS A CLOSE CYCLE , WHICH GO ON REPEATING IN PERPETUAL MANNER.

> Varaha Mihira in Chapter 12 Sloka 31 of 'SURYA SIDDHANT' refers to

> this order of planetary arrangement. "

> Regards,

> Gopal Goel

>

> , " Sreenadh "

> <sreesog@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Todd ji and Ravi ji,

> > ==>

> > But what external evidences tell us that today is in fact

> Thursday?

> > My thought was that it must be based on some natural cycle, but

so

> > far nobody has been able to specify this. It appears from my

> > perspective that deciding that today is Thursday is a random,

> > evolutionary process, as opposed to being something that can be

> > computed definitively.

> > <==

> > The week days ARE based on a natural cycle - some connects it

to

> > the cycle of planet names in the solar system, and chandra hari

> > connects it with the breath pattern. In essence, it is also an

> > concept evolved from age old concept originated from " Etha

pindande

> > tatha Brahmande " (The universe and the atom are the similar or

The

> > solar system and human body are similar).

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , " A. Ravindran

> Nair "

> > <rain13@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear

> > >

> > > Yes, it is very difficult to identify the day. Thithis can be

> > somewhat identified by looking at the size of the Moon and the

> angle

> > from Sun. But such a marking is not possible for Sun. Hope we

> will

> > have an answer some day.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Ravi Nair

> > >

> > > @: todd@: Thu, 1 Nov 2007

> > 09:26:26 -0700 re: days of the

> week

> > >

> > > Hi Ravi,

> > >

> > > Many thanks for your comments. What still puzzles me is HOW we

> > decide which day of the week it is, not the order - that I can

can

> > accept as per your explanation (thank you!). But what external

> > evidences tell us that today is in fact Thursday? My thought

was

> > that it must be based on some natural cycle, but so far nobody

has

> > been able to specify this. It appears from my perspective that

> > deciding that today is Thursday is a random, evolutionary

process,

> as

> > opposed to being something that can be computed definitively. As

I

> > said, this would seem to be of great importance in certain

remedial

> > measures where the days of the week are concerned.

> > >

> > > best to all...

> > >

> > Caldecott

> > > todd@

> > > www.toddcaldecott.com

> > >

> > > On 1-Nov-07, at 6:50 AM,

> > wrote:

> > > The concept as I understand is:

> > >

> > > There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun

as

> HE

> > is the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to

identify

> > this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on

> > Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the

> > order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from

it

> > i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this

order

> > the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury and the day is

> deemed

> > to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg turn and the

> > starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of

> > another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be

> of

> > the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is

> > Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday,

> Tuesday,

> > Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this

> format.

> > >

> > > In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and

> > automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun,

> > hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next week start from

> > Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of

> > WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different

> > repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So

> from

> > the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1

> > again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed.

> > >

> > > The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets

> > different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays

> > modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

Friday,

> > Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier

seems

> to

> > be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing

then

> > throughout the year.

> > >

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The Order of the Kala hora is Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon, Saturn, Jupiter and Mars.The order of the kala hora is Saturn, , Jupiter, Mars, Earth(replaced by Sun), Venus, Mercury and Moon. You would notice that these are in the order ordained by Solar System and their speed of completing the Zodiac. From this you can calculate that 25th Hora from Sun is Moon, Mars forms 25th Hora from Moon and so on. Thus, if today starts with the hora of sun, today is called sunday. From kalhora, tomarrow will start with Moon and hence, it is called Monday. The third day starts with Mars and hence, tues day and so on.

I hope you will find the logic in order. regards, Kishore patnaik On Nov 2, 2007 4:43 PM, kishore patnaik <

kishorepatnaik09 wrote:dear friend,The Hindu system has a wonderful system of Hora. Every hour every day

is dedicated to a planet, the order being the distance of the planetFROM the SUN.In the process the names of the days are given as per this hora systemin that the day is dedicated to that planet, hora of which starts that

day.Thus, Sunday goes to the day on which first hora belongs to Sun,Monday is the day on which first hora belongs to Moon etc.Thus naming of the weeks is perfectly astronomical and obviouslyIndian. This system had been adopted by the world later.

Hope I am clear.regards,kishore patnaik98492 70729On 11/2/07, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937

> wrote:> Dear Mr. Ravi,> Kindly read BPHS , WHERE Maharishi Parasara explained as to how calculate> the Hora ,Bhava and Ghati Lagnas.Hora Lagna indicate the means of sustenance> of life. This lagna moves one sign in one hour.

> This is the reason , ancient rishi's divided a day in 24 parts.> Hora lagna is also used to predict longevity.> The word Hora is derived from the word 'AHORATRI'> Regads,

> Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal wrote:> Namaste Ravi>> Please explain the background towards choice of 24 Horas (Hrs) in a Day

> inaddition to choice of 6th Planet for each subsequent Hora? I have always> been intrigued as to Why 24 Horas and Not more or less inaddition to the> " cyclic " selection of the 6th Planet ……

>> Many thanks …..>> Jai Sita Ram>> Ram>>> >>

> On Behalf Of A. Ravindran> Nair> 01 November 2007 06:04

> > RE: Re: days of the week>>>> Dear Finn,

>> Sorry to intrude !!!>> The concept as I understand is:>> There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is the> supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify this day it has

> been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of the 6th> planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the next> hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will

> be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury> and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg> turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start

> of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the> 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day> (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,

> Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format.>> In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically> the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day

> (Sunday) and again the next week start from Sunday and in order to avoid> identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to> differenciate between different repetition days. So is the concept of

> Months, Year, yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th> day it repeated from 1 again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed.>> The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets different

> names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday,> Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of> months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the

> climatic condition prevailing then throughout the year.>> Hope this helps.>> Regards>> Ravi Nair>>>>>>>>>

> >> > finn.wandahl

> Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:21:48 +0000> Re: days of the week> Dear Todd Caldecott,>> >>...anyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin and

> reckoning of the days of the week i would still be interested<<>> Well, we already know that there are 7 weekdays and that they are> ruled by the 7 planets. What we still need to find out is why the week

> has 7 days and not say 5, 6 or 9 days.>> We may never know the truth about this, but we may still make our own> deductions. So who knows?>> The Equinox/vernal-point moves at a mean rate of 50.25 seconds of arch> per year. Earlier other values like 52 seconds per year were believed> to be more correct.>> The tropical year is of 365.24 days. If we divide 365.24 by 52 we get> 7.02 which may perhaps explain why the week has 7 days.>> Very friendly,> Finn Wandahl>>>>>>>> >> Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check> it out!>>>>>>>>>>> G.K.GOEL> Ph: 09350311433> Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

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Dear Gopal,

I have not read your earlier mails, I think we are saying precisely

the same thing.

If you notice the Lordship of the houses also fall in the same order,

arranged symmetrically.

regards,

Kishore patnaik

98492 70729

On 11/2/07, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:

> Dear Friends,

> The basis of caluclating week days was given in my previous mail . Is thas

> is not acceptable? Please clarify:

>

> " In ancient times the days were fixed after the names of the seven

> planets.

> Arrange the planets according to their motion as apparent when viewed

> from the Earth.

> Slowest Saturn,Jupiter, Mars, Sun , Venus, Mercury and fastest Moon.

> The day and night is divided in 24 parts, and each part is called " HORA "

> The name of the day is kept on the basis of the lord of the first Hora of

> the day.

> The lord of the Horas according to the order of the planets mentioned

> above.

> Let us start from Friday.The first Hora will be of Venus ,followed by

> Mercury,NOON,Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, SUN and then the order of the cycle will

> go on repeating on perpetual basis.

> In THIS Manner , 24 horas will repeat following this order.The 25th Hora

> will be

> of Saturn, thus the next day will be called Saturday,

> and so on.

> THIS IS A CLOSE CYCLE , WHICH GO ON REPEATING IN PERPETUAL MANNER.

> Varaha Mihira in Chapter 12 Sloka 31 of 'SURYA SIDDHANT' refers to this

> order of planetary arrangement. "

> Regards,

>

> Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> Dear Todd ji and Ravi ji,

> ==>

> But what external evidences tell us that today is in fact Thursday?

> My thought was that it must be based on some natural cycle, but so

> far nobody has been able to specify this. It appears from my

> perspective that deciding that today is Thursday is a random,

> evolutionary process, as opposed to being something that can be

> computed definitively.

> <==

> The week days ARE based on a natural cycle - some connects it to

> the cycle of planet names in the solar system, and chandra hari

> connects it with the breath pattern. In essence, it is also an

> concept evolved from age old concept originated from " Etha pindande

> tatha Brahmande " (The universe and the atom are the similar or The

> solar system and human body are similar).

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " A. Ravindran Nair "

> <rain13 wrote:

> >

> > Dear

> >

> > Yes, it is very difficult to identify the day. Thithis can be

> somewhat identified by looking at the size of the Moon and the angle

> from Sun. But such a marking is not possible for Sun. Hope we will

> have an answer some day.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ravi Nair

> >

> > : todd: Thu, 1 Nov 2007

> 09:26:26 -0700 re: days of the week

> >

> > Hi Ravi,

> >

> > Many thanks for your comments. What still puzzles me is HOW we

> decide which day of the week it is, not the order - that I can can

> accept as per your explanation (thank you!). But what external

> evidences tell us that today is in fact Thursday? My thought was

> that it must be based on some natural cycle, but so far nobody has

> been able to specify this. It appears from my perspective that

> deciding that today is Thursday is a random, evolutionary process, as

> opposed to being something that can be computed definitively. As I

> said, this would seem to be of great importance in certain remedial

> measures where the days of the week are concerned.

> >

> > best to all...

> >

> Caldecott

> > todd

> > www.toddcaldecott.com

> >

> > On 1-Nov-07, at 6:50 AM,

> wrote:

> > The concept as I understand is:

> >

> > There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE

> is the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify

> this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on

> Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the

> order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from it

> i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this order

> the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury and the day is deemed

> to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg turn and the

> starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of

> another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of

> the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is

> Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,

> Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format.

> >

> > In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and

> automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun,

> hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next week start from

> Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of

> WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different

> repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So from

> the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1

> again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed.

> >

> > The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets

> different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays

> modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

> Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to

> be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing then

> throughout the year.

> >

> > Hope this helps.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Ravi Nair

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November 2, 2007

Namaste Ravi

I thought Muhurtas were of 2 Gatis ie 48

mins in duration and as such 30 Muhurtas specify a Day?

Hoping other members may be able to shed

some more light on these questions?

Best wishes …….

Jai Sita Ram

Ram

On Behalf Of A. Ravindran Nair

02 November 2007 05:38

RE:

Re: days of the week

Dear Ram,

Good thinking!

I am not an expert, but will list out my views.

For earth to complete one 360 deg rotation around the Sun, it needs to pass

through 24 muhurthas of 2-1/2 nazhika as represented by Kalachakra. These 24

muhurthas are called Kalahoras from where the concept of 24 hour came into

existence. Hence 1 hour is equal to 2-1/2 nazhika.

It is just like to concept of earth's one 360 rotation around the Sun is

passing through 12 different rasis.

Hope experts shall put in more light into this discussion chain.

Regards

Ravi Nair

rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk

Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:33:04 +0000

Re: days of the week

Namaste Ravi

Please explain the background towards

choice of 24 Horas (Hrs) in a Day inaddition to choice of 6th Planet

for each subsequent Hora? I have always been intrigued as to Why 24 Horas and

Not more or less inaddition to the “cyclic” selection of the 6th

Planet ……

Many thanks …..

Jai Sita Ram

Ram

On Behalf Of A. Ravindran Nair

01 November 2007 06:04

RE:

Re: days of the week

Dear Finn,

Sorry to intrude !!!

The concept as I understand is:

There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is

the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify this day it

has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of

the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the

next hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet

will be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of

Mercury and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one 360

deg turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start

of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the 6th

planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day

(Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,Thursday,

Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format.

In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically

the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day

(Sunday) and again the next week start from Sunday and in order to avoid

identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to differenciate

between different repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year,

yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it

repeated from 1 again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed.

The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets different names

in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday,

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of

months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the

climatic condition prevailing then throughout the yea r.

Hope this helps.

Regards

Ravi Nair

finn.wandahl (AT) mail (DOT) dk

Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:21:48 +0000

Re: days of the week

Dear Todd Caldecott,

>>...anyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin and

reckoning of the days of the week i would still be interested<<

Well, we already know that there are 7 weekdays and that they are

ruled by the 7 planets. What we still need to find out is why the week

has 7 days and not say 5, 6 or 9 days.

We may never know the truth about this, but we may still make our own

deductions. So who knows?

The Equinox/vernal-point moves at a mean rate of 50.25 seconds of arch

per year. Earlier other values like 52 seconds per year were believed

to be more correct.

The tropical year is of 365.24 days. If we divide 365.24 by 52 we get

7.02 which may perhaps explain why the week has 7 days.

Very friendly,

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dear friends

many learnt friends have already explained the reasoning behind the

forming of seven days. the hora calculation of 24 hours divided by

the seven planets and the sequential placement based on speed is

correct.

the rotational phenomena of the seven planets is also visible in the

soloman's seal.

however, there is another meaning behind this order of the week

days. sun is the universal soul and is without phases. hence the

weekly cycle starts from sun (symbol of life) and ends with saturn

(symbol of death).

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Arjun ji,

> Let us go a bit more deep into this subject. I know that you will

> be clearly knowing the Kalahora based logic behind weekday names

(The

> name of the Kalahora lord is ascribed to the week day). If you can

> elaborate bit on the same it would be useful to all.

> As far as my knowledge goes, the week day names gets its first

> mention in Yajnavalkya Smriti. The related sloka is already quoted

> and discussed in message #1780.

> Dear check message #1780,could be useful to you.

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " panditarjun2004 "

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > dear friends

> >

> > the shivapuran, vidveshwar samhita, chapter 14 gives a narration

of

> > how weekdays were given by lord shiva, which i translate

succinctly

> > in english below:

> >

> > the first day of the week was meant for lord shiva himself and the

> > ruler of this day is sun who gives health.

> >

> > the second day of the week was meant for shakti and the ruler of

> > this day is moon who gives wealth.

> >

> > the third day of the week was meant for kumaraswamy and the ruler

of

> > this day is mars who cures diseases.

> >

> > the fourth day of the week was meant for vishnu and the ruler of

> > this day is mercury who gives nutrition or development.

> >

> > the fifth day of the week was meant for brahma and the ruler of

this

> > day is jupiter who gives longevity of life.

> >

> > the sixth day of the week was meant for indra and the ruler of

this

> > day is venus who gives enjoyment or pleasures.

> >

> > the seventh day of the week was meant for yama and the ruler of

this

> > day is saturn who removes fear of death.

> >

> > worshipping the particular gods on these particular days is

> > recommended for a person who wish to get the results given by

those

> > respective lords or planets.

> >

> > shiv bhakts may wonder why sunday was attributed as the day of

lord

> > shiva when in present practice, most people follow monday for

lord

> > shiva.

> >

> > as goelji said, the practice of following pancha angas (panchang)

> is

> > only few centuries old and it is surprising to see the seven days

> of

> > the week finding mention in the puranas.

> >

> > other members can add more information on how week days system

was

> > used in the vedic era.

> >

> > with best wishes and blessings

> > pandit arjun

> > www.rudraksharemedy.com

> >

> > , Gopal Goel

> > <gkgoel1937@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear friends,

> > > Lunar calender depends on the motion of MOON w.r.t. Sun.

> > > Week days depends on the mean motion of seven planets and the

> > division of one day and -night in 24 hours.One hour is called

Hora.

> > > All over the World basis of counting of week days is same.I

> > really do not know when and where the system of week days was

> > introduced. It is my belief that week days were in use in India

> > around 2000B.C.

> > > In India , the MAHUTRAS ARE FIXED BASED ON FIVE LIMBS - Lunar

> > Tithi,

> > > Week days, Karan, YOGA AND Nakshatra in which Moon is placed

in

> > transit.

> > > All the above five limbs depend on the position of Sun and

moon.

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > Caldecott <todd@> wrote:

> > > i note that the indian/vedic/hindu system of

astrology

> > appears to recognize seven days of

> > > the week - i am wondering about the origin of this in india -

> have

> > there are always been

> > > seven days? if so, how are they organized? per the lunar

> calendar?

> > for eg., when a pandit

> > > says chant a mantra on wednesday, friday or saturday

to " appease "

> a

> > particular planet, is the

> > > indian (hindu) reckoning of the day of the week different from

> the

> > julian calendar?

> > >

> > > thanks... todd

> > >

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November 2, 2007

Dear friends,

The connection between the days of the week and the mean speed of the

seven grahas:

ascending order of mean speed (used for the 24 hours):

Sani

Guru

Mangala

Surya

Sukra

Budha

Chandra

Place these around a circle and connect them with a 7-pointed star

drawn inside the circle.

Follow the lines of the star and you get the order of weekdays.

I uploaded a picture of this to the Photos section, geometry album.

By the way, when the Gregorian calendar was introduced, the order of

weekdays was not interrupted.

Om Tat Sat

Yanis

November 3, 2007

Dear Ram,

Yes, I agree with you. The word Muhurtha is confusing. I did not realise the consequence of the word at that time. It only meant 24 sections of 2-1/2 ghatis, amounting to 60 ghatis forming a day.

Regards

Ravi Nair

From: rkjaswalDate: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 23:02:13 +0000 Re: days of the week

Namaste Ravi

I thought Muhurtas were of 2 Gatis ie 48 mins in duration and as such 30 Muhurtas specify a Day?

Hoping other members may be able to shed some more light on these questions?

Best wishes …….

Jai Sita Ram

Ram

On Behalf Of A. Ravindran Nair02 November 2007 05:38 Subject: RE: Re: days of the week

Dear Ram, Good thinking! I am not an expert, but will list out my views. For earth to complete one 360 deg rotation around the Sun, it needs to pass through 24 muhurthas of 2-1/2 nazhika as represented by Kalachakra. These 24 muhurthas are called Kalahoras from where the concept of 24 hour came into existence. Hence 1 hour is equal to 2-1/2 nazhika.It is just like to concept of earth's one 360 rotation around the Sun is passing through 12 different rasis. Hope experts shall put in more light into this discussion chain. Regards Ravi Nair

From: rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.ukDate: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:33:04 +0000 Re: days of the week

Namaste Ravi

Please explain the background towards choice of 24 Horas (Hrs) in a Day inaddition to choice of 6th Planet for each subsequent Hora? I have always been intrigued as to Why 24 Horas and Not more or less inaddition to the “cyclic” selection of the 6th Planet ……

Many thanks …..

Jai Sita Ram

Ram

On Behalf Of A. Ravindran Nair01 November 2007 06:04 Subject: RE: Re: days of the week

Dear Finn, Sorry to intrude !!! The concept as I understand is: There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is the supreme energy giver and creator of universe, so to identify this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format. In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next week start from Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1 again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed. The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing then throughout the yea r. Hope this helps. Regards Ravi Nair

From: finn.wandahl (AT) mail (DOT) dkDate: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:21:48 +0000 Re: days of the week

Dear Todd Caldecott,>>...anyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin andreckoning of the days of the week i would still be interested<<Well, we already know that there are 7 weekdays and that they areruled by the 7 planets. What we still need to find out is why the weekhas 7 days and not say 5, 6 or 9 days.We may never know the truth about this, but we may still make our owndeductions. So who knows? The Equinox/vernal-point moves at a mean rate of 50.25 seconds of archper year. Earlier other values like 52 seconds per year were believedto be more correct. The tropical year is of 365.24 days. If we divide 365.24 by 52 we get7.02 which may perhaps explain why the week has 7 days. Very friendly,Finn Wandahl

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November 3, 2007

what is this. allways sending day's of the week. what is this. week important or day's. "A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13 wrote: Dear Ram, Yes, I agree with you. The word Muhurtha is confusing. I did not realise the consequence of the word at that time. It only meant 24 sections of 2-1/2 ghatis, amounting to 60 ghatis forming a day. Regards Ravi Nair From:

rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.ukDate: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 23:02:13 +0000 Re: days of the week Namaste Ravi I thought Muhurtas were of 2 Gatis ie 48 mins in duration and as such 30 Muhurtas specify a Day? Hoping other members may be able to shed some more light on these questions? Best wishes ……. Jai Sita Ram Ram On Behalf Of A. Ravindran Nair02 November 2007 05:38 Subject: RE:

Re: days of the week Dear Ram, Good thinking! I am not an expert, but will list out my views. For earth to complete one 360 deg rotation around the Sun, it needs to pass through 24 muhurthas of 2-1/2 nazhika as represented by Kalachakra. These 24 muhurthas are called Kalahoras from where the concept of 24 hour came into existence. Hence 1 hour is equal to 2-1/2 nazhika.It is just like to concept of earth's one 360 rotation around the Sun is passing through 12 different rasis. Hope experts shall put in more light into this discussion chain. Regards Ravi Nair From: rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.ukDate: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:33:04 +0000 Re: days of the week Namaste Ravi Please explain the background towards choice of 24 Horas (Hrs) in a Day inaddition to choice of 6th Planet for each subsequent Hora? I have always been intrigued as to Why 24 Horas and Not more or less inaddition to the “cyclic” selection of the 6th Planet …… Many thanks ….. Jai Sita Ram Ram

On Behalf Of A. Ravindran Nair01 November 2007 06:04 Subject: RE: Re: days of the week Dear Finn, Sorry to intrude !!! The concept as I understand is: There are 24 horas (hrs) in a day. The horas started from Sun as HE is the supreme energy giver and creator of

universe, so to identify this day it has been named as Sun's day (Sunday). The 2nd hora on Sunday is of the 6th planet (i.e., from Sun the 6th planet in the order is Venus), and the next hora is again the 6th planet from it i.e., Mercury, the next 6th planet will be Moon etc. In this order the last 24th hora on Sunday will be of Mercury and the day is deemed to be completed as the earth completed one 360 deg turn and the starting point again appeared in front of Sun signifying start of another day. Automatically the first hora of the next day will be of the 6th planet from the last hora of Mercury i.e., Moon and it is Moon's day (Monday). The subsequent order of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,Thursday, Friday and Saturday exactly clicks in this format. In this order on Saturday the last hora will be of Tuesday and automatically the hora of the 6th planet from it will be of Sun, hence it is Sun's day (Sunday) and again the next

week start from Sunday and in order to avoid identity duplication, the concept of WEEK came into existence to differenciate between different repetition days. So is the concept of Months, Year, yuga etc. So from the 7th day instead of jumping to the 8th day it repeated from 1 again from Sun and the subsequent cycle followed. The names of the days earlier clearly represented the 7 planets different names in Sanskrit which got evolutionalised to todays modern names Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday etc. The names of months Medam, Edavam etc. earlier seems to be a clear representation of the climatic condition prevailing then throughout the yea r. Hope this helps. Regards Ravi Nair From: finn.wandahl (AT) mail (DOT) dkDate: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:21:48 +0000 Re: days of the week Dear Todd Caldecott,>>...anyway, i digress - if anyone does know the true origin andreckoning of the days of the week i would still be interested<<Well, we already know that there are 7 weekdays and that they areruled by the 7 planets. What we still need to find out is why the weekhas 7 days and not say 5, 6 or 9 days.We may never know the

truth about this, but we may still make our owndeductions. So who knows? The Equinox/vernal-point moves at a mean rate of 50.25 seconds of archper year. Earlier other values like 52 seconds per year were believedto be more correct. The tropical year is of 365.24 days. If we divide 365.24 by 52 we get7.02 which may perhaps explain why the week has 7 days. Very friendly,Finn Wandahl Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out! Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger Get it now!

November 3, 2007

Dear Raghavendra ji,

There was a document Chandra Hari forwarded to me regarding this. I

will try finding it and will upload it in the files section as soon as

possible. (Let me check that doc, and then I will quote it here) I

think Pradeep ji, also must be having the same document, if the same

is available in his ready reference, I request him to upload the same

in files section.

Note: I remember your request regarding books that speaks about the

meaning of alphabets etc. Let me check for that too - as soon as it is

available - I will try uploading a abriviated pdf of the same in files

section.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

, Raghavendrachar Achar

<sujokachar wrote:

>

> dear sreenadhji,

> you have said in the below 3rd para that - week days are natural

cycle... - sri chandra hari connects it with breath pattern. what is

this breath pattern? can you please be kind enough to explain it?

> kind regards,

> r.achar.

>

> Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> Dear Todd ji and Ravi ji,

> ==>

> But what external evidences tell us that today is in fact Thursday?

> My thought was that it must be based on some natural cycle, but so

> far nobody has been able to specify this. It appears from my

> perspective that deciding that today is Thursday is a random,

> evolutionary process, as opposed to being something that can be

> computed definitively.

> <==

> The week days ARE based on a natural cycle - some connects it to

> the cycle of planet names in the solar system, and chandra hari

> connects it with the breath pattern. In essence, it is also an

> concept evolved from age old concept originated from " Etha pindande

> tatha Brahmande " (The universe and the atom are the similar or The

> solar system and human body are similar).

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " A. Ravindran Nair "

> <rain13@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear

> >

> > Yes, it is very difficult to identify the day. Thithis can be

> somewhat identified by looking at the size of the Moon and the angle

> from Sun. But such a marking is not possible for Sun. Hope we will

> have an answer some day.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ravi Nair

> >

> > @: todd@: Thu, 1 Nov 2007