Guest guest Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 Dear Sreeram ji, I once sent you a horoscope of a girl where her Sun and Moon are placed in 5H. The parents have an excellent relationship not only between them but with the rest of the world too..and both are god fearing individuals. blessings Renu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 I mentioned earlier that I have found Sun & Moon together leads to a harmonious relationship between native's parents. To confirm it more I have also seen that when Sun & Moon are in 7/7 relationship one of the parents die prematurely when the native is just a kid. Of course this [7/7] doesn't mean that the parents does not have a healthy relationship in the short time of their married life. Yet, Sun & Moon conjunction may lead to parents of the native.... while enjoying an occassional dispute, live together [not the modern version of 'live together'] without suffering the consequences of a premature death of one partner thereby depriving the love of one parent to the child. blessings Renu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 refer to renuw's take on sun and moon combination; my take on it is that when sun & moon are in the same house it is generally amavasya time and moon is thus eclipsed. The natives mother is sometimes the silent sufferer. The native sometimes suffers from mood swings,cold, asthama and other water imbalances related ailments especially during related dashas/mahadashas. Please corelate with your practical experiencies. 7/7 or opposed to each other does not relate to enimity as in case of other planets as these two are luminaries and being 7th from the sun makes it full moon period or thereabout making the moon powerful and in its full maximum strength. Thus in such a 7/7 position both the atma ( sun ) and mann ( moon ) are in full bloom and does question the demise of a parent unless there is a theorem in astrology which i may have not read. Bye.renunw <renunw wrote: I mentioned earlier that I have found Sun & Moon together leads to a harmonious relationship between native's parents. To confirm it more I have also seen that when Sun & Moon are in 7/7 relationship one of the parents die prematurely when the native is just a kid. Of course this [7/7] doesn't mean that the parents does not have a healthy relationship in the short time of their married life. Yet, Sun & Moon conjunction may lead to parents of the native.... while enjoying an occassional dispute, live together [not the modern version of 'live together'] without suffering the consequences of a premature death of one partner thereby depriving the love of one parent to the child. blessingsRenu Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 Dear Renu ji and Mehta ji, I agree to you both - and question is -Why such diametrically opposite results for Su-Mo combination? How to arrive at exact possibilities that applies to all charts in general? Or in short " What are the fundamental rules to be considered while deriving the results for 2-Planet combinations? " Love, Sreenadh , chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote: > > refer to renuw's take on sun and moon combination; > my take on it is that when sun & moon are in the same house it is generally amavasya time and moon is thus eclipsed. The natives mother is sometimes the silent sufferer. The native sometimes suffers from mood swings,cold, asthama and other water imbalances related ailments especially during related dashas/mahadashas. Please corelate with your practical experiencies. > 7/7 or opposed to each other does not relate to enimity as in case of other planets as these two are luminaries and being 7th from the sun makes it full moon period or thereabout making the moon powerful and in its full maximum strength. Thus in such a 7/7 position both the atma ( sun ) and mann ( moon ) are in full bloom and does question the demise of a parent unless there is a theorem in astrology which i may have not read. > Bye. > > renunw <renunw wrote: > I mentioned earlier that I have found Sun & Moon together leads to a > harmonious relationship between native's parents. To confirm it more I > have also seen that when Sun & Moon are in 7/7 relationship one of the > parents die prematurely when the native is just a kid. Of course this > [7/7] doesn't mean that the parents does not have a healthy > relationship in the short time of their married life. Yet, Sun & Moon > conjunction may lead to parents of the native.... while enjoying an > occassional dispute, live together [not the modern version of 'live > together'] without suffering the consequences of a premature death of > one partner thereby depriving the love of one parent to the child. > > blessings > > Renu > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 I mentioned the Sun & Moon 7/7 relationship and premature death... based on practical knowledge. But I do not say, just because a few horoscopes led me to think this way, it is conclusive evidence. The premature death of a parent may be due to some other planetary position in the native's horoscope. What I came across may be a coincidence. I posted it to see whether anyone else has similar experiences. Anyway I may be going off the track since we are talking about conjuction and not 7/7 relationships. Well since I have found that conjuction of Sun & Moon leading to harmonious and long lasting relationships, and 7/7 relaionships leading to premature death [and not enemity] of one parent though the relationship may be healthy;this in other words would only confirm the steady relationship when Sun & Moon are in conjunction. Moon's brightness is due to reflected sunlight. Although on amavasya time moon is eclipsed, the other side of the moon not visible to earth or the surface visible only to Sun is bright. So even on amavasya time moon has some strength, though it is not visible. It may be the inner strength which is not visible. This could be stronger and steadier than the outward look. May be this is the reason why when sun & moon are in conjunction, the relationship between parents are stronger. Naturally women got to possess more inner strength to tolerate men's self imposed authority. May be being closer to Sun, Moon understands her partner more than been 180 degrees away in full bloom but drowned in her own beauty. I came to these conclusions on Sun & Moon conjunction and 7/7 relationship on what I have come across in horoscopes. This doesn't have to be correct. I would like to see more real life situations to confirm this. blessings Renu , chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote: > > refer to renuw's take on sun and moon combination; > my take on it is that when sun & moon are in the same house it is generally amavasya time and moon is thus eclipsed. The natives mother is sometimes the silent sufferer. The native sometimes suffers from mood swings,cold, asthama and other water imbalances related ailments especially during related dashas/mahadashas. Please corelate with your practical experiencies. > 7/7 or opposed to each other does not relate to enimity as in case of other planets as these two are luminaries and being 7th from the sun makes it full moon period or thereabout making the moon powerful and in its full maximum strength. Thus in such a 7/7 position both the atma ( sun ) and mann ( moon ) are in full bloom and does question the demise of a parent unless there is a theorem in astrology which i may have not read. > Bye. > > renunw <renunw wrote: > I mentioned earlier that I have found Sun & Moon together leads to a > harmonious relationship between native's parents. To confirm it more I > have also seen that when Sun & Moon are in 7/7 relationship one of the > parents die prematurely when the native is just a kid. Of course this > [7/7] doesn't mean that the parents does not have a healthy > relationship in the short time of their married life. Yet, Sun & Moon > conjunction may lead to parents of the native.... while enjoying an > occassional dispute, live together [not the modern version of 'live > together'] without suffering the consequences of a premature death of > one partner thereby depriving the love of one parent to the child. > > blessings > > Renu > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 Dear Sreenadh ji, " What > are the fundamental rules to be considered while deriving the results > for 2-Planet combinations? " The fundamental rules to be considered could be as follows: 1. The nature of the planets. The qualities attributable to them as per astro classics and also benefic & malefic nature of them. 2. The friendship or enmity between them. 3. The proximity of the planets. 4. The residence [which house/sign] of the planets. That is, in short, how comfortable both or either of them at their/its natal placement. 5. The strength of the planets. 6. The effect created by the neighbourhood and the onlookers. Just a suggestion. blessings Renu > Love, > Sreenadh > > , chiranjiv mehta > <vchiranjiv@> wrote: > > > > refer to renuw's take on sun and moon combination; > > my take on it is that when sun & moon are in the same house it is > generally amavasya time and moon is thus eclipsed. The natives mother > is sometimes the silent sufferer. The native sometimes suffers from > mood swings,cold, asthama and other water imbalances related ailments > especially during related dashas/mahadashas. Please corelate with your > practical experiencies. > > 7/7 or opposed to each other does not relate to enimity as in case > of other planets as these two are luminaries and being 7th from the > sun makes it full moon period or thereabout making the moon powerful > and in its full maximum strength. Thus in such a 7/7 position both the > atma ( sun ) and mann ( moon ) are in full bloom and does question the > demise of a parent unless there is a theorem in astrology which i may > have not read. > > Bye. > > > > renunw <renunw@> wrote: > > I mentioned earlier that I have found Sun & Moon together > leads to a > > harmonious relationship between native's parents. To confirm it more I > > have also seen that when Sun & Moon are in 7/7 relationship one of the > > parents die prematurely when the native is just a kid. Of course this > > [7/7] doesn't mean that the parents does not have a healthy > > relationship in the short time of their married life. Yet, Sun & Moon > > conjunction may lead to parents of the native.... while enjoying an > > occassional dispute, live together [not the modern version of 'live > > together'] without suffering the consequences of a premature death of > > one partner thereby depriving the love of one parent to the child. > > > > blessings > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without > download. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 Dear Renu ji, If the answer was so simple and straight forward - I wouldn't had to ask. Let us consider your answers - 1. The nature of the planets. The qualities attributable to them as per astro classics and also benefic & malefic nature of them. - OK. Agreed. That means 'Significance of both the planets should be considered'. 2. The friendship or enmity between them. - OK. Agreed. 3. The proximity of the planets. - OK. But this won't be of consideration here, because as per ancient indian astrology 'proximity' is some thing that comes under 'prediction based on divisions/vargas'. So we can't consider this point here with in our limited scope of '2-planet combination'. 4. The residence [which house/sign] of the planets. That is, in short, how comfortable both or either of them at their/its natal placement. - Sorry, again out of context. We are trying to limit ourselves to 'Planets' alone - i.e. NOT TO consider Houses and Signs here. 5. The strength of the planets. - OK. But this again at times depends on position. So we would have to avoid considering it except in the case of things such as 'Pakshabala of Moon etc'. 6. The effect created by the neighbourhood and the onlookers. - Please don't brig a 3rd planet into a 2-planet combination. So we got only 2 valid points only - so the question - * what else?! And also - * How to apply even the noted rules in a convincing manner to 'derive results that match with the actual experience/reality'? And also - * What are the specific results you will derive from such a combination? Love, Sreenadh , " renunw " <renunw wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > " What > > are the fundamental rules to be considered while deriving the > results > > for 2-Planet combinations? " > > The fundamental rules to be considered could be as follows: > > 1. The nature of the planets. The qualities attributable to them as > per astro classics and also benefic & malefic nature of them. > 2. The friendship or enmity between them. > 3. The proximity of the planets. > 4. The residence [which house/sign] of the planets. That is, in > short, how comfortable both or either of them at their/its natal > placement. > 5. The strength of the planets. > 6. The effect created by the neighbourhood and the onlookers. > > Just a suggestion. > > blessings > > Renu > > > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > , chiranjiv mehta > > <vchiranjiv@> wrote: > > > > > > refer to renuw's take on sun and moon combination; > > > my take on it is that when sun & moon are in the same house it > is > > generally amavasya time and moon is thus eclipsed. The natives > mother > > is sometimes the silent sufferer. The native sometimes suffers from > > mood swings,cold, asthama and other water imbalances related > ailments > > especially during related dashas/mahadashas. Please corelate with > your > > practical experiencies. > > > 7/7 or opposed to each other does not relate to enimity as in > case > > of other planets as these two are luminaries and being 7th from the > > sun makes it full moon period or thereabout making the moon > powerful > > and in its full maximum strength. Thus in such a 7/7 position both > the > > atma ( sun ) and mann ( moon ) are in full bloom and does question > the > > demise of a parent unless there is a theorem in astrology which i > may > > have not read. > > > Bye. > > > > > > renunw <renunw@> wrote: > > > I mentioned earlier that I have found Sun & Moon > together > > leads to a > > > harmonious relationship between native's parents. To confirm it > more I > > > have also seen that when Sun & Moon are in 7/7 relationship one > of the > > > parents die prematurely when the native is just a kid. Of course > this > > > [7/7] doesn't mean that the parents does not have a healthy > > > relationship in the short time of their married life. Yet, Sun & > Moon > > > conjunction may lead to parents of the native.... while enjoying > an > > > occassional dispute, live together [not the modern version > of 'live > > > together'] without suffering the consequences of a premature > death of > > > one partner thereby depriving the love of one parent to the > child. > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without > > download. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 Dear Sreenadh ji, > If the answer was so simple and straight forward - I wouldn't had to > ask. Exactly :-). In fact I felt so stupid scribbling those points. But your question sounded so basic. Let's not argue about it. I bow down to higher AV points....:-) and accept my obvious stupidity. Also I knew some of them were out of context. Hmm..sorry for bringing out those. Now comes the difficult task. How to apply even the noted rules in a convincing manner to 'derive > results that match with the actual experience/reality'? And also - > * What are the specific results you will derive from such a combination? I am sure Sreeram ji can come up with some witty explanations to these. Looking forward to that... I have posted a small note on real life situations which I have come across. I can submit the horscopes if anyone is interested. But even then how can we come to a clean cut rule isolating only these 2 planets and analyzing on such basis. The reality is a result of so many influences to planets. So reality would not tell the story of isolated combination of two planets. Ultimately we can analyze theoretical concepts only and look for logical explanation for such concepts, if we are to consider isolated 2 planet combinations. blessings Renu Let us consider your answers - > 1. The nature of the planets. The qualities attributable to them as > per astro classics and also benefic & malefic nature of them. > - OK. Agreed. That means 'Significance of both the planets should be > considered'. > 2. The friendship or enmity between them. > - OK. Agreed. > 3. The proximity of the planets. > - OK. But this won't be of consideration here, because as per ancient > indian astrology 'proximity' is some thing that comes under > 'prediction based on divisions/vargas'. So we can't consider this > point here with in our limited scope of '2-planet combination'. > 4. The residence [which house/sign] of the planets. That is, in > short, how comfortable both or either of them at their/its natal > placement. > - Sorry, again out of context. We are trying to limit ourselves to > 'Planets' alone - i.e. NOT TO consider Houses and Signs here. > 5. The strength of the planets. > - OK. But this again at times depends on position. So we would have > to avoid considering it except in the case of things such as > 'Pakshabala of Moon etc'. > 6. The effect created by the neighbourhood and the onlookers. > - Please don't brig a 3rd planet into a 2-planet combination. > > So we got only 2 valid points only - so the question - > * what else?! And also - > * How to apply even the noted rules in a convincing manner to 'derive > results that match with the actual experience/reality'? And also - > * What are the specific results you will derive from such a combination? > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > " What > > > are the fundamental rules to be considered while deriving the > > results > > > for 2-Planet combinations? " > > > > The fundamental rules to be considered could be as follows: > > > > 1. The nature of the planets. The qualities attributable to them as > > per astro classics and also benefic & malefic nature of them. > > 2. The friendship or enmity between them. > > 3. The proximity of the planets. > > 4. The residence [which house/sign] of the planets. That is, in > > short, how comfortable both or either of them at their/its natal > > placement. > > 5. The strength of the planets. > > 6. The effect created by the neighbourhood and the onlookers. > > > > Just a suggestion. > > > > blessings > > > > Renu > > > > > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , chiranjiv mehta > > > <vchiranjiv@> wrote: > > > > > > > > refer to renuw's take on sun and moon combination; > > > > my take on it is that when sun & moon are in the same house it > > is > > > generally amavasya time and moon is thus eclipsed. The natives > > mother > > > is sometimes the silent sufferer. The native sometimes suffers from > > > mood swings,cold, asthama and other water imbalances related > > ailments > > > especially during related dashas/mahadashas. Please corelate with > > your > > > practical experiencies. > > > > 7/7 or opposed to each other does not relate to enimity as in > > case > > > of other planets as these two are luminaries and being 7th from the > > > sun makes it full moon period or thereabout making the moon > > powerful > > > and in its full maximum strength. Thus in such a 7/7 position both > > the > > > atma ( sun ) and mann ( moon ) are in full bloom and does question > > the > > > demise of a parent unless there is a theorem in astrology which i > > may > > > have not read. > > > > Bye. > > > > > > > > renunw <renunw@> wrote: > > > > I mentioned earlier that I have found Sun & Moon > > together > > > leads to a > > > > harmonious relationship between native's parents. To confirm it > > more I > > > > have also seen that when Sun & Moon are in 7/7 relationship one > > of the > > > > parents die prematurely when the native is just a kid. Of course > > this > > > > [7/7] doesn't mean that the parents does not have a healthy > > > > relationship in the short time of their married life. Yet, Sun & > > Moon > > > > conjunction may lead to parents of the native.... while enjoying > > an > > > > occassional dispute, live together [not the modern version > > of 'live > > > > together'] without suffering the consequences of a premature > > death of > > > > one partner thereby depriving the love of one parent to the > > child. > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without > > > download. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 All positions of planets are to be taken relative to ourself. Thus the moon may appear illuminated/visible from some other portion on earth and should affect people in that geography but not the native who is having amavasya. Combination leading to loss of parent could have happened in case of melefic aspect of other paap grahas and accompanied by mahadasha/antardasha. That the moon is not totally eclipsed (retains some of its inherent powers which include intution ) has been first hand witnessed by me. Only the affect is subtle and is noticed by the discerning soul. As for the gender bifurcation; all energies are the same. It is only our centuries old conditioning that divides it on basis of M/F. Beauty is possesed by every thing and being. Distance and derived beauty is as explained above and a play of the mind. OOPS!!! That is the moon. So we are back to where it all started. Because we r being logical and imposing human values on planets. Beauty of astrology is not pinpointed answers or a puzzle to be solved . More a door to something wonderous and powerfull. The existence of what we commonly know as GOD. Also fantasizing about the future is insulting the present. renunw <renunw wrote: I mentioned the Sun & Moon 7/7 relationship and premature death... based on practical knowledge. But I do not say, just because a few horoscopes led me to think this way, it is conclusive evidence. The premature death of a parent may be due to some other planetary position in the native's horoscope. What I came across may be a coincidence. I posted it to see whether anyone else has similar experiences. Anyway I may be going off the track since we are talking about conjuction and not 7/7 relationships. Well since I have found that conjuction of Sun & Moon leading to harmonious and long lasting relationships, and 7/7 relaionships leading to premature death [and not enemity] of one parent though the relationship may be healthy;this in other words would only confirm the steady relationship when Sun & Moon are in conjunction. Moon's brightness is due to reflected sunlight. Although on amavasya time moon is eclipsed, the other side of the moon not visible to earth or the surface visible only to Sun is bright. So even on amavasya time moon has some strength, though it is not visible. It may be the inner strength which is not visible. This could be stronger and steadier than the outward look. May be this is the reason why when sun & moon are in conjunction, the relationship between parents are stronger. Naturally women got to possess more inner strength to tolerate men's self imposed authority. May be being closer to Sun, Moon understands her partner more than been 180 degrees away in full bloom but drowned in her own beauty.I came to these conclusions on Sun & Moon conjunction and 7/7 relationship on what I have come across in horoscopes. This doesn't have to be correct. I would like to see more real life situations to confirm this.blessingsRenu , chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote:>> refer to renuw's take on sun and moon combination;> my take on it is that when sun & moon are in the same house it is generally amavasya time and moon is thus eclipsed. The natives mother is sometimes the silent sufferer. The native sometimes suffers from mood swings,cold, asthama and other water imbalances related ailments especially during related dashas/mahadashas. Please corelate with your practical experiencies.> 7/7 or opposed to each other does not relate to enimity as in case of other planets as these two are luminaries and being 7th from the sun makes it full moon period or thereabout making the moon powerful and in its full maximum strength. Thus in such a 7/7 position both the atma ( sun ) and mann ( moon ) are in full bloom and does question the demise of a parent unless there is a theorem in astrology which i may have not read.> Bye.> > renunw <renunw wrote: > I mentioned earlier that I have found Sun & Moon together leads to a > harmonious relationship between native's parents. To confirm it more I > have also seen that when Sun & Moon are in 7/7 relationship one of the > parents die prematurely when the native is just a kid. Of course this > [7/7] doesn't mean that the parents does not have a healthy > relationship in the short time of their married life. Yet, Sun & Moon > conjunction may lead to parents of the native.... while enjoying an > occassional dispute, live together [not the modern version of 'live > together'] without suffering the consequences of a premature death of > one partner thereby depriving the love of one parent to the child. > > blessings> > Renu> > > > > > > > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download.> Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Dear Shreenadji, My respects. Practical experience has shown that such a combination even in a khada (12 th) house does not lead to loss if aspected by a benefic like Guru. Rashi (mitra, Shatru) is also important. And interchange is also a factor. Renuji will need to first hand observe physical aspects of the person whose chart is being examined, to notice physical signs such as weak left eye etc to come to the right direction. Phala is derived by some postulates which is but a summary of deep calculations about various balas being combined. For eg : Surya & swagrahi budha gave Mr. PV Narsimha Rao a great intellect, command over languages and PM's post but the postulate that Karka should not sit in its own bhava ( Sun in 10th ) lest it destroys it ensured that he died under virtual house arrest and infamy inspite of leading India towards free markets etc. All predictions of all bhavas, rashis, planets, Nakshatras give at the least more than option. ( eg Sun means: atma, father, right eye, govt/agencies and indirectly to fire, electricity, bones etc.) Thus there is enough leeway for nature to punish us/our near ones for our/their bad karmas by choosing targets and degree of punishment. A sun saturn transit may therefore lead to loss of something/someone important or just a fine by a cop for a traffic violation. It is therefore in entirety that the phala takes its form after taking all the major aspects including karma. Finally we come th the question; Are the stars dictating what we are doing/done or is what we have done that will help them decide degree, intensity of phala. Same old chicken/egg situation. One last prediction. TN CM is living his swan song. Actually not a prediction. Call it logic or whatever u want but I see it. No I am not religious extremist. But u can sometimes see it glaring . Bye Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Renu ji and Mehta ji,I agree to you both - and question is -Why such diametricallyopposite results for Su-Mo combination? How to arrive at exactpossibilities that applies to all charts in general? Or in short "Whatare the fundamental rules to be considered while deriving the resultsfor 2-Planet combinations?"Love,Sreenadh , chiranjiv mehta<vchiranjiv wrote:>> refer to renuw's take on sun and moon combination;> my take on it is that when sun & moon are in the same house it isgenerally amavasya time and moon is thus eclipsed. The natives motheris sometimes the silent sufferer. The native sometimes suffers frommood swings,cold, asthama and other water imbalances related ailmentsespecially during related dashas/mahadashas. Please corelate with yourpractical experiencies.> 7/7 or opposed to each other does not relate to enimity as in caseof other planets as these two are luminaries and being 7th from thesun makes it full moon period or thereabout making the moon powerfuland in its full maximum strength. Thus in such a 7/7 position both theatma ( sun ) and mann ( moon ) are in full bloom and does question thedemise of a parent unless there is a theorem in astrology which i mayhave not read.> Bye.> > renunw <renunw wrote: > I mentioned earlier that I have found Sun & Moon togetherleads to a > harmonious relationship between native's parents. To confirm it more I > have also seen that when Sun & Moon are in 7/7 relationship one of the > parents die prematurely when the native is just a kid. Of course this > [7/7] doesn't mean that the parents does not have a healthy > relationship in the short time of their married life. Yet, Sun & Moon > conjunction may lead to parents of the native.... while enjoying an > occassional dispute, live together [not the modern version of 'live > together'] without suffering the consequences of a premature death of > one partner thereby depriving the love of one parent to the child. > > blessings> > Renu> > > > > > > > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, withoutdownload.> Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Dear Mehta ji, The current discussion is about Su-Mo combination alone, i.e. Planets alone. That means, as per the strategy followed in this group, we are not free to mention or use Houses, Signs etc. Boundaries fixed.. Let us learn to dive through the circle - once we learn and master it we will start diving without circles. The points you mentioned are good - but most of them 'out of context' as per our pre-fixed boundaries. Just see the previous posts on the same thread. Love, Sreenadh , chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote: > > Dear Shreenadji, > My respects. Practical experience has shown that such a combination even in a khada (12 th) house does not lead to loss if aspected by a benefic like Guru. Rashi (mitra, Shatru) is also important. And interchange is also a factor. Renuji will need to first hand observe physical aspects of the person whose chart is being examined, to notice physical signs such as weak left eye etc to come to the right direction. Phala is derived by some postulates which is but a summary of deep calculations about various balas being combined. > For eg : Surya & swagrahi budha gave Mr. PV Narsimha Rao a great intellect, command over languages and PM's post but the postulate that Karka should not sit in its own bhava ( Sun in 10th ) lest it destroys it ensured that he died under virtual house arrest and infamy inspite of leading India towards free markets etc. > All predictions of all bhavas, rashis, planets, Nakshatras give at the least more than option. ( eg Sun means: atma, father, right eye, govt/agencies and indirectly to fire, electricity, bones etc.) Thus there is enough leeway for nature to punish us/our near ones for our/their bad karmas by choosing targets and degree of punishment. > A sun saturn transit may therefore lead to loss of something/someone important or just a fine by a cop for a traffic violation. > It is therefore in entirety that the phala takes its form after taking all the major aspects including karma. > Finally we come th the question; > Are the stars dictating what we are doing/done or is what we have done that will help them decide degree, intensity of phala. > Same old chicken/egg situation. > One last prediction. TN CM is living his swan song. Actually not a prediction. Call it logic or whatever u want but I see it. No I am not religious extremist. But u can sometimes see it glaring . > Bye > > Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: > Dear Renu ji and Mehta ji, > I agree to you both - and question is -Why such diametrically > opposite results for Su-Mo combination? How to arrive at exact > possibilities that applies to all charts in general? Or in short " What > are the fundamental rules to be considered while deriving the results > for 2-Planet combinations? " > Love, > Sreenadh > > , chiranjiv mehta > <vchiranjiv@> wrote: > > > > refer to renuw's take on sun and moon combination; > > my take on it is that when sun & moon are in the same house it is > generally amavasya time and moon is thus eclipsed. The natives mother > is sometimes the silent sufferer. The native sometimes suffers from > mood swings,cold, asthama and other water imbalances related ailments > especially during related dashas/mahadashas. Please corelate with your > practical experiencies. > > 7/7 or opposed to each other does not relate to enimity as in case > of other planets as these two are luminaries and being 7th from the > sun makes it full moon period or thereabout making the moon powerful > and in its full maximum strength. Thus in such a 7/7 position both the > atma ( sun ) and mann ( moon ) are in full bloom and does question the > demise of a parent unless there is a theorem in astrology which i may > have not read. > > Bye. > > > > renunw <renunw@> wrote: > > I mentioned earlier that I have found Sun & Moon together > leads to a > > harmonious relationship between native's parents. To confirm it more I > > have also seen that when Sun & Moon are in 7/7 relationship one of the > > parents die prematurely when the native is just a kid. Of course this > > [7/7] doesn't mean that the parents does not have a healthy > > relationship in the short time of their married life. Yet, Sun & Moon > > conjunction may lead to parents of the native.... while enjoying an > > occassional dispute, live together [not the modern version of 'live > > together'] without suffering the consequences of a premature death of > > one partner thereby depriving the love of one parent to the child. > > > > blessings > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without > download. > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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