Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 pnrazdanji, Namastae Please read my reply Durga , "pnrazdan" <pnrazdan wrote:>> Dear Mr Sreeram and Sreenadh,> Putting a gag order on people who try to ask questions is not being> fair to members. Do we want a total allegiance to the view points of> moderators or do we encourage civilised debate and questioning. We> seem to have come to a crucial point in this debate where we have to> choose between totalitarianism and democratic discussion.> If some body is asking Durgaji to explain how she reached the right> conclusion, do we have to call this pestering? For example I would> like to know how she came to the conclusion of the accident in the> quiz merely on the basis of the placement of Mars, the karaka for> accidents (it is karaka for many things) in the rashi chart. How does> she vouchsafe for the timing, when she doesnt refer to either the dasa> or the transit. An explanation from her on this point would be greatly> beneficial to all others particularly those who are learning> astrology. I think I have mentioned clearly the MD and sub period was of Venus--Saturn. Had you been familar with the classics, you would never had asked for detailed explanation "Marakay Saha Sambandhal Nihanda Papakrichaani Athikramaytharaan sarvaan Bhavatheyava na samshaya " (Pls don't find fault for quoting the sloka .There may be errors when written in English ) Meaning (not literal)---malefics (owning 3,6,8 & 11) Saturn outsmart all other planets, to become marak , no doubt of it. For Pisces Lagaan , Saturn thus becomes a functional malefic , and qualifies itself to cause a calamity during its MD or sub period provided the planetary pic at birth, so warrants . Saturn is also the lord of 12th of hospitalisation . Saturn is aspected by Mars, the karak of accident/danger etc. The MD was of venus , the lord of 8th of accidents, placed in Lagaan (body) The 8th(accident) of MD venus & 12th (hospitalisation/bed ridden) of the sub period lord saturn ,along with martian influence (danger) is capable of bringing an accident .Hence it was concluded to be an accident . Why is this being discouraged and a hush hush attitude> adopted by repeating advice to change the topic. This mystery only> increases the doubt expressed by Astro There is only one mystery , I find unable to understand . Why you people are selectively targeting me ? Is it becoz of my participation in a quiz of your list that made me your target.? I tell you , the whole thing is giving me some sort of bad taste in my mouth . ..And Durgaji for no reason is> becoming an unnecessary scapegoat.> I had referred to my chart only because there has been no convincing> explanation so far on the problem that occurred on 1st Sept. My> purpose in doing so is to get something knowledgeble from Durga for> benefit of others and not my own benefit. I have no interest in my> chart after the event has passed off. > Regards,> P.N.Razdan> > > , "astro_2345"> astro_2345@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sreeramji,> > > > "Example : We have Mr. Astro who postrates to the skill of Durga, > > then> > raises back to challenge with a query in his next postings......!!> > What a paradim shift !!"> > > > No 'paradigm' shift if you have properly understood what I meant. I > > recap what Pradeepji said, if Durgaji had made her readings > > upholding the truth, I too whole heartedly appreciate her. But > > otherwise, time will prove the truth.> > > > Regards,> > Astro> > > > > > > > , "Sre_eram" > > <sreeram64@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Now the Quiz is over and we are required to march on than look > > back and> > > get into a windows software type "Hang". While we decide to march > > on, > > > would request Mr. Razdan, Mr. Astro 2345 to stop challenging the > > quiz> > > responders and the toper with personal riders, which do not serve > > any> > > person. Kindly try to hold back your own emotions to that effect > > in > > > respect.> > > > > > Mr. Kuchibhotla Subrahmanyam, you should be knowing that people > > who> > > predictl by hearing the voice or...etc.... such sciences are > > beyond> > > astrology and hence, we may stop here itself for in this group we > > are> > > talking of ancient but true hindu astrology, and not about > > siddhis. I> > > know how such things are foretold....and the associated siddhis, > > which> > > are a result of certain spiritual practise. However, if used > > beyond> > > their limits, the soul practising it, fall from the grace to a > > level> > > difficult to imagine.......even by imagination.> > > > > > There is a person in Mumbai i.e. Maharshi Karve a simple person, > > who> > > practises this with great humbleness and maintains the true > > tradition. > > > I know how to reach him through my good friends, however, I know > > for> > > sure, when revealed in public without exercising some levels of> > > discretion would surely see a sea of people rushing to this > > gentlemen> > > .....> > > > > > Kindly post only those details of the person {genuine holy people} > > where> > > the details are known beyond any doubt, we may not be taking it as > > a> > > Quiz or Blind Chart each time, but for some other astro_purpose to> > > explore the reasons of such siddhis or small divinity in a person> > > > > > I am little sceptical, while I encourage you to share the birth > > data,> > > for I know for sure, there will be many waiting to post some birth > > data> > > claiming some uniqueness in it.....> > > > > > Example : We have Mr. Astro who postrates to the skill of Durga, > > then> > > raises back to challenge with a query in his next > > postings......!! > > > What a paradim shift !!> > > > > > with regards,> > > > > > sreeram srinivas> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kuchibhotla> > > subrahmanyam k_subrahmanyam60100@> wrote:> > > > > > dear Sreenadhji,> > > i am following all the postings regarding astrology. the > > blind chart> > > reading -Quiz gave much response and revealed that some > > persons are> > > there to give correct predictions.i have seen some who by seeing > > the> > > face or listening the voice or by knowing the revealed name> > > from a person by phone could tell all about the future without > > even> > > going for horoscopes.one such person is in the place where i> > > live.shall i post his birth> > > details as blind chart reading?ofcourse ,it is only for better> > > understanding of the horoscpe reading.> > > regards,> > > subrahmanyam> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Thanks Durgaji. Unlike other members, I am obviously ignorant of the classics that is why I am asking for the details.But your elucidiation is perfect. Ordinarily, I would have asked for a few small clarifications but since the atmosphere all round is that of " holding ones breath " , I am closing the matter here. It is indeed a perfect prediction. I appreciate your spirit in replying and clarifying despite advice of your patrons not to do so. Regards, P.N.Razdan , " durga050 " <durga050 wrote: > > > > > pnrazdanji, > > Namastae > > Please read my reply > > Durga > , " pnrazdan " > <pnrazdan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr Sreeram and Sreenadh, > > Putting a gag order on people who try to ask questions is not being > > fair to members. Do we want a total allegiance to the view points of > > moderators or do we encourage civilised debate and questioning. We > > seem to have come to a crucial point in this debate where we have to > > choose between totalitarianism and democratic discussion. > > If some body is asking Durgaji to explain how she reached the right > > conclusion, do we have to call this pestering? For example I would > > like to know how she came to the conclusion of the accident in the > > quiz merely on the basis of the placement of Mars, the karaka for > > accidents (it is karaka for many things) in the rashi chart. How does > > she vouchsafe for the timing, when she doesnt refer to either the dasa > > or the transit. An explanation from her on this point would be greatly > > beneficial to all others particularly those who are learning > > astrology. > > I think I have mentioned clearly the MD and sub period was of > Venus--Saturn. > > Had you been familar with the classics, you would never had asked for > detailed explanation > > " Marakay Saha Sambandhal > > Nihanda Papakrichaani > > Athikramaytharaan sarvaan > > Bhavatheyava na samshaya " > > (Pls don't find fault for quoting the sloka .There may be errors when > written in English ) > > Meaning (not literal)---malefics (owning 3,6,8 & 11) Saturn outsmart all > other planets, to become marak , no doubt of it. > > For Pisces Lagaan , Saturn thus becomes a functional malefic , and > qualifies itself to cause a calamity during its MD or sub period > provided the planetary pic at birth, so warrants . Saturn is also > the lord of 12th of hospitalisation . Saturn is aspected by Mars, the > karak of accident/danger etc. > > The MD was of venus , the lord of 8th of accidents, placed in Lagaan > (body) > > The 8th(accident) of MD venus & 12th (hospitalisation/bed ridden) of > the sub period lord saturn ,along with martian influence (danger) is > capable of bringing an accident .Hence it was concluded to be an > accident . > > > > Why is this being discouraged and a hush hush attitude > > adopted by repeating advice to change the topic. This mystery only > > increases the doubt expressed by Astro > > There is only one mystery , I find unable to understand . Why you people > are selectively targeting me ? Is it becoz of my participation in a > quiz of your list that made me your target.? > > I tell you , the whole thing is giving me some sort of bad taste in my > mouth . > > > > .And Durgaji for no reason is > > becoming an unnecessary scapegoat. > > I had referred to my chart only because there has been no convincing > > explanation so far on the problem that occurred on 1st Sept. My > > purpose in doing so is to get something knowledgeble from Durga for > > benefit of others and not my own benefit. I have no interest in my > > chart after the event has passed off. > > Regards, > > P.N.Razdan > > > > > > , " astro_2345 " > > astro_2345@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreeramji, > > > > > > " Example : We have Mr. Astro who postrates to the skill of Durga, > > > then > > > raises back to challenge with a query in his next postings......!! > > > What a paradim shift !! " > > > > > > No 'paradigm' shift if you have properly understood what I meant. I > > > recap what Pradeepji said, if Durgaji had made her readings > > > upholding the truth, I too whole heartedly appreciate her. But > > > otherwise, time will prove the truth. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Astro > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Sre_eram " > > > <sreeram64@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the Quiz is over and we are required to march on than look > > > back and > > > > get into a windows software type " Hang " . While we decide to march > > > on, > > > > would request Mr. Razdan, Mr. Astro 2345 to stop challenging the > > > quiz > > > > responders and the toper with personal riders, which do not serve > > > any > > > > person. Kindly try to hold back your own emotions to that effect > > > in > > > > respect. > > > > > > > > Mr. Kuchibhotla Subrahmanyam, you should be knowing that people > > > who > > > > predictl by hearing the voice or...etc.... such sciences are > > > beyond > > > > astrology and hence, we may stop here itself for in this group we > > > are > > > > talking of ancient but true hindu astrology, and not about > > > siddhis. I > > > > know how such things are foretold....and the associated siddhis, > > > which > > > > are a result of certain spiritual practise. However, if used > > > beyond > > > > their limits, the soul practising it, fall from the grace to a > > > level > > > > difficult to imagine.......even by imagination. > > > > > > > > There is a person in Mumbai i.e. Maharshi Karve a simple person, > > > who > > > > practises this with great humbleness and maintains the true > > > tradition. > > > > I know how to reach him through my good friends, however, I know > > > for > > > > sure, when revealed in public without exercising some levels of > > > > discretion would surely see a sea of people rushing to this > > > gentlemen > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > Kindly post only those details of the person {genuine holy people} > > > where > > > > the details are known beyond any doubt, we may not be taking it as > > > a > > > > Quiz or Blind Chart each time, but for some other astro_purpose to > > > > explore the reasons of such siddhis or small divinity in a person > > > > > > > > I am little sceptical, while I encourage you to share the birth > > > data, > > > > for I know for sure, there will be many waiting to post some birth > > > data > > > > claiming some uniqueness in it..... > > > > > > > > Example : We have Mr. Astro who postrates to the skill of Durga, > > > then > > > > raises back to challenge with a query in his next > > > postings......!! > > > > What a paradim shift !! > > > > > > > > with regards, > > > > > > > > sreeram srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kuchibhotla > > > > subrahmanyam k_subrahmanyam60100@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear Sreenadhji, > > > > i am following all the postings regarding astrology. the > > > blind chart > > > > reading -Quiz gave much response and revealed that some > > > persons are > > > > there to give correct predictions.i have seen some who by seeing > > > the > > > > face or listening the voice or by knowing the revealed name > > > > from a person by phone could tell all about the future without > > > even > > > > going for horoscopes.one such person is in the place where i > > > > live.shall i post his birth > > > > details as blind chart reading?ofcourse ,it is only for better > > > > understanding of the horoscpe reading. > > > > regards, > > > > subrahmanyam > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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