Guest guest Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Dear Roshan ji, We are even unaware about our present life - and at times miserably fail in understanding our past and future of the present life itself from the chart. In that situation should we look in to the past life? It is all uncertain areas which people may fill in with imagination and then will start argue that they are authentic. Like Buddha said there are several questions that needs to be answered first; and till then several questions should remain unanswered. Asking that questions prior to understanding the primary would be turning to an erroneous path - and so actually some questions are there which should never be asked now. It also wonder to know that when understanding matures - many of those questions becomes unnecessary! Any way this is my opinion - other members might have a different opinion. Love, Sreenadh , rossin ucile <kandisa_ur wrote: > > Sir, > > What relation does seventh house has on the past life > discovery?? What i understood of it was in > partnerships an marriage...i read it somewhere that > the seventh house lord and the planet in it define the > road to past life regreassion...any comments?? > > Regards > > Roshan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Dear Sreenadh ji, " Like Buddha said there are several questions that needs to be > answered first; and till then several questions should remain > unanswered. Asking that questions prior to understanding the primary > would be turning to an erroneous path - and so actually some > questions are there which should never be asked now. " Exactly. I totally agree with you. After all what should be our real aim in life? ...cessation of this vicious circle of life for once and for all. The question is not digging into the past would take us to our ultimate objective in life, but whether digging into ancient/modern astrology would also lead us on the correct path???? Please note that I don't mean any insult here. Truly, Sreenadh ji, I would like to know what is the purpose of learning all this astrology too if destiny, consequences of our past Karma is something we rarely [not never] can change. Yes, even I am interested in astrology, learning it etc. etc. I too may be in an erroneous path, no doubt. It has become a hobby. But 'ups and downs with numerous behaviour patterns of planets' teach us or make us realize the reality in life. Other than that I cannot see anything which would contribute to our ultimate goal or 'nirvana'. So it is not only digging into the past but also predicting future would be a futile effort and a waste of time. Is not it so???? If you can express your view on this, you are mostly welcome. blessings Renu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Dear Srinadhji, Mentioning Budhism reminded me of some interesting zen riddles that I have in my collection. It will be an interesting read for members who havent read them. So Im posting some of them here. Hope you dont mind. #1 A MASTER was asked the question, " What is the Way? " by a curious monk. " It is right before your eyes, " said the master. " Why do I not see it for myself? " " Because you are thinking of yourself. " " What about you: do you see it? " " So long as you see double, saying I don't and you do, and so on, your eyes are clouded, " said the master. " When there is neither 'I' nor 'You,' can one see it? " " When there is neither 'I' nor 'You,' who is the one that wants to see it? " #2 THE STUDENT Doko came to a Zen master, and said: " I am seeking the truth. In what state of mind should I train myself, so as to find it? " Said the master, " There is no mind, so you cannot put it in any state. There is no truth, so you cannot train yourself for it. " " If there is no mind to train, and no truth to find, why do you have these monks gather before you every day to study Zen and train themselves for this study? " " But I haven't an inch of room here, " said the master, so how could the monks gather? I have no tongue, so how could I call them together or teach them? " " Oh, how can you lie like this? " asked Doko. " But if I have no tongue to talk to others, how can I lie to you? " asked the master. Then Doko said sadly, " I cannot follow you. I cannot understand you. " I cannot understand myself, " said the master. #3 A STUDENT came before the master Bankei and asked to be helped in getting rid of his violent temper. " Show me this temper, " said Bankei. " It sounds very fascinating. " " I haven't got it right now, so I can't show it to you, said the student. " Well then, " said Bankei, " bring it to me when you have it. " " But I can't bring it just when I happen to have it, " protested the student. " I'd surely lose it again before I got it to you. " In such a case, " said Bankei, " it seems to me that this temper is not part of your true nature. If it is not part of you, it must come into you from outside. I suggest that whenever it gets into you, you beat yourself with a stick until the temper can't stand it, and runs away. " #4 JOSHU asked the teacher Nansen, " What is the true Way? " Nansen answered, " Everyday way is the true Way. " Joshu asked, " Can I study it? " Nansen answered, " The more you study, the further from the Way. " Joshu asked, " If I don't study it, how can I know it? " Nansen answered, " The Way does not belong to things seen: nor to things unseen. It does not belong to things known: nor to things unknown. Do not seek it, study it, or name it. To find yourself on it, open yourself wide as the sky. " #5 ONE WINDY day two monks were arguing about a flapping banner. The first said, " I say the banner is moving, not the wind. " The second said, " I say the wind is moving, not the banner.' A third monk passed by and said, " The wind is not moving. The banner is not moving. Your minds are moving. " #6 Late one night a blind man was about to go home after visiting a friend. " Please, " he said to his friend, " May I take your lantern with me? " " Why carry a lantern? " asked his friend. " You won't see any better with it. " " No, " said the blind one, " perhaps not. But others will see me better, and not bump into me. So his friend gave the blind man the lantern, which was made of paper on bamboo strips, with a candle inside. Off went the blind man with the lantern, and before he had gone more than a few yards, Crack! -someone walked right into him. The blind man was very angry. " Why don't you look out? " he stormed. " Why don't you see this lantern? " " Why don't you light the candle? " asked the other. Regards, Jyothi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Dear Jyothi ji, Beautiful extracts.... blessings Renu , " jyothi_b_lakshmi " <jyothilakshmi.b wrote: > > Dear Srinadhji, > > Mentioning Budhism reminded me of some interesting zen riddles that > I have in my collection. It will be an interesting read for members > who havent read them. So Im posting some of them here. Hope you dont > mind. > > #1 > A MASTER was asked the question, " What is the Way? " by a curious > monk. > " It is right before your eyes, " said the master. > " Why do I not see it for myself? " > " Because you are thinking of yourself. " > " What about you: do you see it? " > " So long as you see double, saying I don't and you do, and so on, > your eyes are clouded, " said the master. > " When there is neither 'I' nor 'You,' can one see it? " > " When there is neither 'I' nor 'You,' who is the one that wants to > see it? " > > #2 > THE STUDENT Doko came to a Zen master, and said: " I am seeking the > truth. In what state of mind should I train myself, so as to find > it? " > Said the master, " There is no mind, so you cannot put it in any > state. There is no truth, so you cannot train yourself for it. " > " If there is no mind to train, and no truth to find, why do you > have these monks gather before you every day to study Zen and > train themselves for this study? " > " But I haven't an inch of room here, " said the master, so how > could the monks gather? I have no tongue, so how could I call them > together or teach them? " > " Oh, how can you lie like this? " asked Doko. " But if I have no > tongue to talk to others, how can I lie to you? " asked the master. > Then Doko said sadly, " I cannot follow you. I cannot understand > you. > " I cannot understand myself, " said the master. > > #3 > A STUDENT came before the master Bankei and asked to be helped in > getting rid of his violent temper. > " Show me this temper, " said Bankei. " It sounds very fascinating. " > " I haven't got it right now, so I can't show it to you, said the > student. > " Well then, " said Bankei, " bring it to me when you have it. " > " But I can't bring it just when I happen to have it, " protested > the student. " I'd surely lose it again before I got it to you. > " In such a case, " said Bankei, " it seems to me that this temper is > not part of your true nature. If it is not part of you, it must > come into you from outside. I suggest that whenever it gets into > you, you beat yourself with a stick until the temper can't stand > it, and runs away. " > > #4 > JOSHU asked the teacher Nansen, " What is the true Way? " > Nansen answered, " Everyday way is the true Way. " > Joshu asked, " Can I study it? " > Nansen answered, " The more you study, the further from the Way. " > Joshu asked, " If I don't study it, how can I know it? " > Nansen answered, " The Way does not belong to things seen: nor to > things unseen. It does not belong to things known: nor to things > unknown. Do not seek it, study it, or name it. To find yourself on > it, open yourself wide as the sky. " > > #5 > ONE WINDY day two monks were arguing about a flapping banner. > The first said, " I say the banner is moving, not the wind. " > The second said, " I say the wind is moving, not the banner.' > A third monk passed by and said, " The wind is not moving. The > banner is not moving. Your minds are moving. " > > #6 > Late one night a blind man was about to go home after visiting a > friend. " Please, " he said to his friend, " May I take your lantern > with me? " > " Why carry a lantern? " asked his friend. " You won't see any better > with it. " > " No, " said the blind one, " perhaps not. But others will see me > better, and not bump into me. So his friend gave the blind man the > lantern, which was made of paper on bamboo strips, with a candle > inside. > Off went the blind man with the lantern, and before he had gone > more than a few yards, Crack! -someone walked right into him. The > blind man was very angry. " Why don't you look out? " he stormed. > " Why don't you see this lantern? " > " Why don't you light the candle? " asked the other. > > > Regards, > Jyothi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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