Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Sreenadhji,here is my analysis with exceptions outlined:Saturn in 7th house can give following results:1) As natural malefic in 7th house, it can bring delay in marriage, marital grief, separation from husband, if wife husband treating her like slave, grief, unfulfilled desires from marriage etc2) By malefic aspect of lagna, it can indicate a person who is not good looking and strong.3) by malefic aspect of the 10th house from him which is the 4th house, Saturn can cause problems in wealth through real estate/vehicles etc - meaning native may not own his own house or vehicle and even if he does he will not enjoy the same. 4) by malefic aspect of the 3rd house from him, which is the 9th house, Saturn will cause a person who is not spiritual and does not believe in God and consequently less punya.Now what are the exceptions:1) Saturn in his sign of exaltation in 7th house will not cause the bad results above. IF saturn is exalted in 7th house, he will give good spouse, good wealth and good punya.2) If Saturn is in his own house in 7th house, then good spouse/married life is given. But the quantity and quality is less than 1) which is in exaltation3) If Saturn is in friend's house in 7th house then he will not harm the 7th house and married life is fine. But still he will malefic aspect the 4th, lagna and 9th houses causing loss of wealth and spirituality. Indications are that he will marry a colleague and will not be good looking4) If Saturn is in his sign of debilitation in 7th house, rest assured extreme results with no marriage, or divorce5) If Saturn is in his enemy house same result as 4) but to a lesser degreeAnother exception is when Saturn is lord of 2 sustanas - e.g: Saturn for Capricorn Lagna is lord of 1st and 2nd (lagna lord and wealth lord). For such a person Saturn in 7th house will mean very good as 1st and 2nd lord is going to sustana.I request learned Sreenadhji, Sreeramji, Sunilji, Chandrashekarji to confirm my analysis.regardskiranNow Saturn is a malefic in the 7H. As a malefic in the 7H he will destroy the good things of 7H meaning he will add his colour to the 7H.Why delay in marriage/marital grief from Saturn in 7th?Saturn represents delay, suffering, grief, sorrow, servant etc: and Saturn in the 7H can cause delay in marriage, evil spouse, grief from spouse, unfulfilled desires etc.Why problems in real estate/wealth from Saturn in 7th?Now let us see the other statements: Saturn in 7H will aspect the lagna (7th from 7th), 4th house stands for house, land, maternal uncle, real estate. So by malefic aspect, Saturn in 7th will cause problems of wealthWhy present himself ungly and sinful with mean acts?Saturn in 7H will malefic aspect the 10th house. 10th house stands for occupation/professi on, honour, conduct, quality of life in societySO the learned sages were correct, mehtajiSreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear All, This Saturn in 7th is dragging us long! Is it that no body sure what to be attributed to Saturn in 7th?!! I request learned members like Sunil ji to come-up with a clear reading and finish of this long thread for short! OK. Even though out of context regarding our current location (i.e. 2n lord in various houses); let us elaborate the various possible results of Saturn in 7th and let us come to some tangible and solid RESULTS. I will post my reading on the same in the next mail. It is unnecessary bringing in the Ucha/Neecha/Yaga karaka and numerous other things + the say too much but mean nothing words like good/bad/beneficial/malefic/benefic etc. So My question is - What is the RESULTS to be attributed to Saturn in 7th? Be clear in your answers and be practical - and for sure we will validate anyone's reading with practical chart examples in our collection with the same combination. So let us proceed and try to make this discussion on Saturn in 7th, more valuable and creative. And please note - * NO out of context mentioning of divisions, naskshatras, karakamsas and so on. * Be right on on the point - Saturn in 7th (any house); at the most we are only free to mention the exceptions regarding ownhouse, exaltation, debilitation etc (if any). * Speak about the RESULTS, and AVOID using the vague words such as good, bad etc * AVOID jugglery of words - and be clear on what you know and what you don't; what you trust and what you not. * Check all your books, but don't be bothered by them; if the CLEAR results spoken by you matches with the chart collection and actual experience they would be accpeted; and if not what ever names or books you quote - that would be rejected. So the ground is ready, rules clear - let us march! Find the thief and hang him, for all to view! Love and regards, Sreenadh , KAMAL SAHNI <sightsolutions wrote:>> Dear All> > soryy for baraging. I was reading with interest and a queation cameto mind rel\ting to Saturn in 7 not being a good location. For Libra lagna Sat in Aries (7th house) and also Debliated is BAD but it is also a Yogkaraka planet for this lagna.> > Please enlighten> > kamal> > Hasmukhrai Mehta astroclinik wrote:> Dear Srinivas ji,> > My statement may kindly be read carefully. I have never said that our Rishis were wrong. On the contrary, we should be thankful to them for their works on the basis of which we have been able to get the scholars like B V Raman, K N Rao, K S Krishnamurti and his wonderful system of Krishnamurti Paddhati, which can give unfailing and dependable predictions. > > Good luck and all the best.> > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > sreeram srinivas sreeram64 wrote: Namaste Mehtaji,> Mehtaji, can you take some specific cases, to drive home your point....?? Would appreciate if you take time to convince us that our Rishis were wrong......> With regards,> Sreeram_Srinivas> , Hasmukhrai Mehta astroclinik@ wrote:> >> > Time and again it has been proved that the results mentioned in the slokas in the classics do not always match the actual results experienced in real life happening. > > > > Kiran R kiran.rama@ wrote: Dear Chandrashekarji,> > > > I am collating some shlokas from classics that tell about Saturn in 7th house. Of course, there will be exceptions and we can learn from you and other learned members like Sreenadhji, Sunilji, Sreeramji etc.> > > > This is what Saravali of Kalyana Varma says:> > "If Saturn is posited in the 7th, the native will always be subjected to ill health, will lose his wife, be bereft of wealth, will present himself ugly, be sinful and will do very mean acts"> > > > Regards> > Kiran> > Hasmukhrai J Mehta> Astrological services par excellence Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. 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Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Dear Kiran ji, I can agree with your analysis regarding exalted Saturn in 7H as I have seen that in quite a few natives. They are simply good people. Now, kindly explain how Saturn in 7H would aspect the 10H...please. " Why present himself ungly and sinful with mean acts? Saturn in 7H will malefic aspect the 10th house. 10th house stands for occupation/professi on, honour, conduct, quality of life in society....... " thanks.. blessings Renu " , Kiran R <kiran.rama wrote: > > Sreenadhji, > > here is my analysis with exceptions outlined: > > Saturn in 7th house can give following results: > 1) As natural malefic in 7th house, it can bring delay in marriage, marital grief, separation from husband, if wife husband treating her like slave, grief, unfulfilled desires from marriage etc > 2) By malefic aspect of lagna, it can indicate a person who is not good looking and strong. > 3) by malefic aspect of the 10th house from him which is the 4th house, Saturn can cause problems in wealth through real estate/vehicles etc - meaning native may not own his own house or vehicle and even if he does he will not enjoy the same. > 4) by malefic aspect of the 3rd house from him, which is the 9th house, Saturn will cause a person who is not spiritual and does not believe in God and consequently less punya. > > Now what are the exceptions: > 1) Saturn in his sign of exaltation in 7th house will not cause the bad results above. IF saturn is exalted in 7th house, he will give good spouse, good wealth and good punya. > 2) If Saturn is in his own house in 7th house, then good spouse/married life is given. But the quantity and quality is less than 1) which is in exaltation > 3) If Saturn is in friend's house in 7th house then he will not harm the 7th house and married life is fine. But still he will malefic aspect the 4th, lagna and 9th houses causing loss of wealth and spirituality. Indications are that he will marry a colleague and will not be good looking > 4) If Saturn is in his sign of debilitation in 7th house, rest assured extreme results with no marriage, or divorce > 5) If Saturn is in his enemy house same result as 4) but to a lesser degree > > Another exception is when Saturn is lord of 2 sustanas - e.g: Saturn for Capricorn Lagna is lord of 1st and 2nd (lagna lord and wealth lord). For such a person Saturn in 7th house will mean very good as 1st and 2nd lord is going to sustana. > > I request learned Sreenadhji, Sreeramji, Sunilji, Chandrashekarji to confirm my analysis. > > regards > kiran > > Now Saturn is a malefic in the 7H. As a malefic in the 7H he will destroy the good things of 7H meaning he will add his colour to the 7H. > > Why delay in marriage/marital grief from Saturn in 7th? > > Saturn represents delay, suffering, grief, sorrow, servant etc: and Saturn in the 7H can cause delay in marriage, evil spouse, grief from spouse, unfulfilled desires etc. > > Why problems in real estate/wealth from Saturn in 7th? > Now let us see the other statements: Saturn in 7H will aspect the lagna (7th from 7th), 4th house stands for house, land, maternal uncle, real estate. So by malefic aspect, Saturn in 7th will cause problems of wealth > > Why present himself ungly and sinful with mean acts? > Saturn in 7H will malefic aspect the 10th house. 10th house stands for occupation/professi on, honour, conduct, quality of life in society > > SO the learned sages were correct, mehtaji > > Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: > Dear All, > This Saturn in 7th is dragging us long! Is it that no body sure what to be attributed to Saturn in 7th?!! I request learned members like Sunil ji to come-up with a clear reading and finish of this long thread for short! OK. Even though out of context regarding our current location (i.e. 2n lord in various houses); let us elaborate the various possible results of Saturn in 7th and let us come to some tangible and solid RESULTS. I will post my reading on the same in the next mail. > It is unnecessary bringing in the Ucha/Neecha/Yaga karaka and numerous other things + the say too much but mean nothing words like good/bad/beneficial/malefic/benefic etc. So My question is - What is the RESULTS to be attributed to Saturn in 7th? Be clear in your answers and be practical - and for sure we will validate anyone's reading with practical chart examples in our collection with the same combination. So let us proceed and try to make this discussion on Saturn in 7th, more valuable and creative. > And please note - > * NO out of context mentioning of divisions, naskshatras, karakamsas and so on. > * Be right on on the point - Saturn in 7th (any house); at the most we are only free to mention the exceptions regarding ownhouse, exaltation, debilitation etc (if any). > * Speak about the RESULTS, and AVOID using the vague words such as good, bad etc > * AVOID jugglery of words - and be clear on what you know and what you don't; what you trust and what you not. > * Check all your books, but don't be bothered by them; if the CLEAR results spoken by you matches with the chart collection and actual experience they would be accpeted; and if not what ever names or books you quote - that would be rejected. > > So the ground is ready, rules clear - let us march! Find the thief and hang him, for all to view! > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , KAMAL SAHNI <sightsolutions@> wrote: > > > > Dear All > > > > soryy for baraging. I was reading with interest and a queation cameto mind rel\ting to Saturn in 7 not being a good location. For Libra lagna Sat in Aries (7th house) and also Debliated is BAD but it is also a Yogkaraka planet for this lagna. > > > > Please enlighten > > > > kamal > > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta astroclinik@ wrote: > > Dear Srinivas ji, > > > > My statement may kindly be read carefully. I have never said that our Rishis were wrong. On the contrary, we should be thankful to them for their works on the basis of which we have been able to get the scholars like B V Raman, K N Rao, K S Krishnamurti and his wonderful system of Krishnamurti Paddhati, which can give unfailing and dependable predictions. > > > > Good luck and all the best. > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > > > sreeram srinivas sreeram64@ wrote: Namaste Mehtaji, > > Mehtaji, can you take some specific cases, to drive home your point....?? Would appreciate if you take time to convince us that our Rishis were wrong...... > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta astroclinik@ wrote: > > > > > > Time and again it has been proved that the results mentioned in the slokas in the classics do not always match the actual results experienced in real life happening. > > > > > > Kiran R kiran.rama@ wrote: Dear Chandrashekarji, > > > > > > I am collating some shlokas from classics that tell about Saturn in 7th house. Of course, there will be exceptions and we can learn from you and other learned members like Sreenadhji, Sunilji, Sreeramji etc. > > > > > > This is what Saravali of Kalyana Varma says: > > > " If Saturn is posited in the 7th, the native will always be subjected to ill health, will lose his wife, be bereft of wealth, will present himself ugly, be sinful and will do very mean acts " > > > > > > Regards > > > Kiran > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta > > Astrological services par excellence > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Dear Kiran Ji I think what you have said what prove good from a textbook theory but in practice results may vary. My aunt has saturn in 7th and she has gained from various real estate properties, she is very good looking and has had a happy marriage. Saturn is in leo in her case. In another chart of my friend - he has saturn exalted in libra in the 7th house. His marriage is the worst and ended in divorce within 2 years. I think its necessary to look at the navamsha more than the rashi chart when it comes to marriage and conclusions based on rashi alone should not be used. In addition to this it is necessary to look at the lordships and aspects from both lagna, chandra lagna AND navamsha, and maybe even look at condition of DK (dara karaka) using jaimini aspect. Any correlation or repeated aspects seen can then be used to make a firm conclusion. Kind regards Sorabh Sharma , Kiran R <kiran.rama wrote: > > Sreenadhji, > > here is my analysis with exceptions outlined: > > Saturn in 7th house can give following results: > 1) As natural malefic in 7th house, it can bring delay in marriage, marital grief, separation from husband, if wife husband treating her like slave, grief, unfulfilled desires from marriage etc > 2) By malefic aspect of lagna, it can indicate a person who is not good looking and strong. > 3) by malefic aspect of the 10th house from him which is the 4th house, Saturn can cause problems in wealth through real estate/vehicles etc - meaning native may not own his own house or vehicle and even if he does he will not enjoy the same. > 4) by malefic aspect of the 3rd house from him, which is the 9th house, Saturn will cause a person who is not spiritual and does not believe in God and consequently less punya. > > Now what are the exceptions: > 1) Saturn in his sign of exaltation in 7th house will not cause the bad results above. IF saturn is exalted in 7th house, he will give good spouse, good wealth and good punya. > 2) If Saturn is in his own house in 7th house, then good spouse/married life is given. But the quantity and quality is less than 1) which is in exaltation > 3) If Saturn is in friend's house in 7th house then he will not harm the 7th house and married life is fine. But still he will malefic aspect the 4th, lagna and 9th houses causing loss of wealth and spirituality. Indications are that he will marry a colleague and will not be good looking > 4) If Saturn is in his sign of debilitation in 7th house, rest assured extreme results with no marriage, or divorce > 5) If Saturn is in his enemy house same result as 4) but to a lesser degree > > Another exception is when Saturn is lord of 2 sustanas - e.g: Saturn for Capricorn Lagna is lord of 1st and 2nd (lagna lord and wealth lord). For such a person Saturn in 7th house will mean very good as 1st and 2nd lord is going to sustana. > > I request learned Sreenadhji, Sreeramji, Sunilji, Chandrashekarji to confirm my analysis. > > regards > kiran > > Now Saturn is a malefic in the 7H. As a malefic in the 7H he will destroy the good things of 7H meaning he will add his colour to the 7H. > > Why delay in marriage/marital grief from Saturn in 7th? > > Saturn represents delay, suffering, grief, sorrow, servant etc: and Saturn in the 7H can cause delay in marriage, evil spouse, grief from spouse, unfulfilled desires etc. > > Why problems in real estate/wealth from Saturn in 7th? > Now let us see the other statements: Saturn in 7H will aspect the lagna (7th from 7th), 4th house stands for house, land, maternal uncle, real estate. So by malefic aspect, Saturn in 7th will cause problems of wealth > > Why present himself ungly and sinful with mean acts? > Saturn in 7H will malefic aspect the 10th house. 10th house stands for occupation/professi on, honour, conduct, quality of life in society > > SO the learned sages were correct, mehtaji > > Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: > Dear All, > This Saturn in 7th is dragging us long! Is it that no body sure what to be attributed to Saturn in 7th?!! I request learned members like Sunil ji to come-up with a clear reading and finish of this long thread for short! OK. Even though out of context regarding our current location (i.e. 2n lord in various houses); let us elaborate the various possible results of Saturn in 7th and let us come to some tangible and solid RESULTS. I will post my reading on the same in the next mail. > It is unnecessary bringing in the Ucha/Neecha/Yaga karaka and numerous other things + the say too much but mean nothing words like good/bad/beneficial/malefic/benefic etc. So My question is - What is the RESULTS to be attributed to Saturn in 7th? Be clear in your answers and be practical - and for sure we will validate anyone's reading with practical chart examples in our collection with the same combination. So let us proceed and try to make this discussion on Saturn in 7th, more valuable and creative. > And please note - > * NO out of context mentioning of divisions, naskshatras, karakamsas and so on. > * Be right on on the point - Saturn in 7th (any house); at the most we are only free to mention the exceptions regarding ownhouse, exaltation, debilitation etc (if any). > * Speak about the RESULTS, and AVOID using the vague words such as good, bad etc > * AVOID jugglery of words - and be clear on what you know and what you don't; what you trust and what you not. > * Check all your books, but don't be bothered by them; if the CLEAR results spoken by you matches with the chart collection and actual experience they would be accpeted; and if not what ever names or books you quote - that would be rejected. > > So the ground is ready, rules clear - let us march! Find the thief and hang him, for all to view! > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , KAMAL SAHNI <sightsolutions@> wrote: > > > > Dear All > > > > soryy for baraging. I was reading with interest and a queation cameto mind rel\ting to Saturn in 7 not being a good location. For Libra lagna Sat in Aries (7th house) and also Debliated is BAD but it is also a Yogkaraka planet for this lagna. > > > > Please enlighten > > > > kamal > > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta astroclinik@ wrote: > > Dear Srinivas ji, > > > > My statement may kindly be read carefully. I have never said that our Rishis were wrong. On the contrary, we should be thankful to them for their works on the basis of which we have been able to get the scholars like B V Raman, K N Rao, K S Krishnamurti and his wonderful system of Krishnamurti Paddhati, which can give unfailing and dependable predictions. > > > > Good luck and all the best. > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta. > > > > > > sreeram srinivas sreeram64@ wrote: Namaste Mehtaji, > > Mehtaji, can you take some specific cases, to drive home your point....?? Would appreciate if you take time to convince us that our Rishis were wrong...... > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > , Hasmukhrai Mehta astroclinik@ wrote: > > > > > > Time and again it has been proved that the results mentioned in the slokas in the classics do not always match the actual results experienced in real life happening. > > > > > > Kiran R kiran.rama@ wrote: Dear Chandrashekarji, > > > > > > I am collating some shlokas from classics that tell about Saturn in 7th house. Of course, there will be exceptions and we can learn from you and other learned members like Sreenadhji, Sunilji, Sreeramji etc. > > > > > > This is what Saravali of Kalyana Varma says: > > > " If Saturn is posited in the 7th, the native will always be subjected to ill health, will lose his wife, be bereft of wealth, will present himself ugly, be sinful and will do very mean acts " > > > > > > Regards > > > Kiran > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta > > Astrological services par excellence > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Dear All,Kiranji has rightly pointed out the malefic effects of saturn:1) As natural malefic in 7th house, it can bring delay in marriage, marital grief, separation from husband, if wife husband treating her like slave, grief, unfulfilled desires from marriage etc 2) By malefic aspect of lagna, it can indicate a person who is not good looking and strong. 3) by malefic aspect of the 10th house from him which is the 4th house, Saturn can cause problems in wealth through real estate/vehicles etc - meaning native may not own his own house or vehicle and even if he does he will not enjoy the same. 4) by malefic aspect of the 3rd house from him, which is the 9th house, Saturn will cause a person who is not spiritual and does not believe in God and consequently less punya.However, I beg to differ with her specific results1) Saturn in his sign of exaltation in 7th house will not cause the bad results above. IF saturn is exalted in 7th house, he will give good spouse, good wealth and good punya.If its well placed e.g in exaltation/own house/friend's house in 7H it will boost the effects of 7H and give good, stable marriage may be a bit late as shani represents delay, good partners, trade etc. The native will project a good image to others. But to derive the results for other houses (1,4 & 9), we have to go by lagna:an exalted saturn in 7H means aries lagna. It will have an inimical aspect on lagna hence it will not benefit lagna. It will have an inimical aspect on 4H of cancer, hence may cause harm to mother, property etc. and may push the native out of his birth place. It will similarly have a retarding effect on luck and may not be very good for father.On the other hand say for tula lagna, saturn in 7H is debilitated and thus would not be good for 7H affairs but its aspect on lagna on tula sign will be benefic and will enhance the house effects, similarly it will aspect his own capricorn rashi in 10H and will be very good for 4H affairs. It will also throw a friendly aspect to gemini in 9H and hence will be good for 9H affairs. We can derive similar results for all the lagnas.RegardsNeelamOn 19/01/2008, Kiran R <kiran.rama > wrote: Sreenadhji,here is my analysis with exceptions outlined:Saturn in 7th house can give following results:1) As natural malefic in 7th house, it can bring delay in marriage, marital grief, separation from husband, if wife husband treating her like slave, grief, unfulfilled desires from marriage etc 2) By malefic aspect of lagna, it can indicate a person who is not good looking and strong.3) by malefic aspect of the 10th house from him which is the 4th house, Saturn can cause problems in wealth through real estate/vehicles etc - meaning native may not own his own house or vehicle and even if he does he will not enjoy the same. 4) by malefic aspect of the 3rd house from him, which is the 9th house, Saturn will cause a person who is not spiritual and does not believe in God and consequently less punya.Now what are the exceptions: 1) Saturn in his sign of exaltation in 7th house will not cause the bad results above. IF saturn is exalted in 7th house, he will give good spouse, good wealth and good punya.2) If Saturn is in his own house in 7th house, then good spouse/married life is given. But the quantity and quality is less than 1) which is in exaltation 3) If Saturn is in friend's house in 7th house then he will not harm the 7th house and married life is fine. But still he will malefic aspect the 4th, lagna and 9th houses causing loss of wealth and spirituality. Indications are that he will marry a colleague and will not be good looking 4) If Saturn is in his sign of debilitation in 7th house, rest assured extreme results with no marriage, or divorce5) If Saturn is in his enemy house same result as 4) but to a lesser degreeAnother exception is when Saturn is lord of 2 sustanas - e.g: Saturn for Capricorn Lagna is lord of 1st and 2nd (lagna lord and wealth lord). For such a person Saturn in 7th house will mean very good as 1st and 2nd lord is going to sustana.I request learned Sreenadhji, Sreeramji, Sunilji, Chandrashekarji to confirm my analysis.regardskiranNow Saturn is a malefic in the 7H. As a malefic in the 7H he will destroy the good things of 7H meaning he will add his colour to the 7H. Why delay in marriage/marital grief from Saturn in 7th?Saturn represents delay, suffering, grief, sorrow, servant etc: and Saturn in the 7H can cause delay in marriage, evil spouse, grief from spouse, unfulfilled desires etc. Why problems in real estate/wealth from Saturn in 7th?Now let us see the other statements: Saturn in 7H will aspect the lagna (7th from 7th), 4th house stands for house, land, maternal uncle, real estate. So by malefic aspect, Saturn in 7th will cause problems of wealth Why present himself ungly and sinful with mean acts?Saturn in 7H will malefic aspect the 10th house. 10th house stands for occupation/professi on, honour, conduct, quality of life in societySO the learned sages were correct, mehtajiSreenadh < sreesog wrote: Dear All, This Saturn in 7th is dragging us long! Is it that no body sure what to be attributed to Saturn in 7th?!! I request learned members like Sunil ji to come-up with a clear reading and finish of this long thread for short! OK. Even though out of context regarding our current location (i.e. 2n lord in various houses); let us elaborate the various possible results of Saturn in 7th and let us come to some tangible and solid RESULTS. I will post my reading on the same in the next mail. It is unnecessary bringing in the Ucha/Neecha/Yaga karaka and numerous other things + the say too much but mean nothing words like good/bad/beneficial/malefic/benefic etc. So My question is - What is the RESULTS to be attributed to Saturn in 7th? Be clear in your answers and be practical - and for sure we will validate anyone's reading with practical chart examples in our collection with the same combination. So let us proceed and try to make this discussion on Saturn in 7th, more valuable and creative. And please note - * NO out of context mentioning of divisions, naskshatras, karakamsas and so on. * Be right on on the point - Saturn in 7th (any house); at the most we are only free to mention the exceptions regarding ownhouse, exaltation, debilitation etc (if any). * Speak about the RESULTS, and AVOID using the vague words such as good, bad etc * AVOID jugglery of words - and be clear on what you know and what you don't; what you trust and what you not. * Check all your books, but don't be bothered by them; if the CLEAR results spoken by you matches with the chart collection and actual experience they would be accpeted; and if not what ever names or books you quote - that would be rejected. So the ground is ready, rules clear - let us march! Find the thief and hang him, for all to view! Love and regards, Sreenadh , KAMAL SAHNI <sightsolutions wrote:>> Dear All> > soryy for baraging. I was reading with interest and a queation cameto mind rel\ting to Saturn in 7 not being a good location. For Libra lagna Sat in Aries (7th house) and also Debliated is BAD but it is also a Yogkaraka planet for this lagna. > > Please enlighten> > kamal> > Hasmukhrai Mehta astroclinik wrote:> Dear Srinivas ji,> > My statement may kindly be read carefully. I have never said that our Rishis were wrong. On the contrary, we should be thankful to them for their works on the basis of which we have been able to get the scholars like B V Raman, K N Rao, K S Krishnamurti and his wonderful system of Krishnamurti Paddhati, which can give unfailing and dependable predictions. > > Good luck and all the best.> > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > sreeram srinivas sreeram64 wrote: Namaste Mehtaji,> Mehtaji, can you take some specific cases, to drive home your point....?? Would appreciate if you take time to convince us that our Rishis were wrong...... > With regards,> Sreeram_Srinivas> , Hasmukhrai Mehta astroclinik@ wrote:> >> > Time and again it has been proved that the results mentioned in the slokas in the classics do not always match the actual results experienced in real life happening. > > > > Kiran R kiran.rama@ wrote: Dear Chandrashekarji,> > > > I am collating some shlokas from classics that tell about Saturn in 7th house. Of course, there will be exceptions and we can learn from you and other learned members like Sreenadhji, Sunilji, Sreeramji etc. > > > > This is what Saravali of Kalyana Varma says:> > " If Saturn is posited in the 7th, the native will always be subjected to ill health, will lose his wife, be bereft of wealth, will present himself ugly, be sinful and will do very mean acts " > > > > Regards> > Kiran> > Hasmukhrai J Mehta> Astrological services par excellence Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. 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Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Dear Renu ji, > Now, kindly explain how Saturn in 7H would aspect the 10H...please. It seems that Kiran ji is using North indian style chart which usually cause, confusion as far as aspects are concerned - actually I have already asked him to start using South Indian style chart for clarity on aspects. Kiran ji, Saturn in 7th can aspect only 9th (count 7,8,9 - 3signs) with its 3rd aspect, and Lagna (with its 7th aspect; count 7,8,9,10,11,12, Lagna - 7 signs) and 4th (count 7th onwards ) with its 10th aspect. Thus Saturn in 7th aspects 9th, Lagna and 4th only. Love and regards, Sreenadh , "renunw" <renunw wrote:>> Dear Kiran ji,> > I can agree with your analysis regarding exalted Saturn in 7H as I > have seen that in quite a few natives. They are simply good people.> > Now, kindly explain how Saturn in 7H would aspect the 10H...please.> > "Why present himself ungly and sinful with mean acts?> Saturn in 7H will malefic aspect the 10th house. 10th house stands > for occupation/professi on, honour, conduct, quality of life in > society......."> > thanks..> > blessings> > Renu> > > > "> > > , Kiran R > kiran.rama@ wrote:> >> > Sreenadhji,> > > > here is my analysis with exceptions outlined:> > > > Saturn in 7th house can give following results:> > 1) As natural malefic in 7th house, it can bring delay in > marriage, marital grief, separation from husband, if wife husband > treating her like slave, grief, unfulfilled desires from marriage etc> > 2) By malefic aspect of lagna, it can indicate a person who is not > good looking and strong.> > 3) by malefic aspect of the 10th house from him which is the 4th > house, Saturn can cause problems in wealth through real > estate/vehicles etc - meaning native may not own his own house or > vehicle and even if he does he will not enjoy the same. > > 4) by malefic aspect of the 3rd house from him, which is the 9th > house, Saturn will cause a person who is not spiritual and does not > believe in God and consequently less punya.> > > > Now what are the exceptions:> > 1) Saturn in his sign of exaltation in 7th house will not cause > the bad results above. IF saturn is exalted in 7th house, he will > give good spouse, good wealth and good punya.> > 2) If Saturn is in his own house in 7th house, then good > spouse/married life is given. But the quantity and quality is less > than 1) which is in exaltation> > 3) If Saturn is in friend's house in 7th house then he will not > harm the 7th house and married life is fine. But still he will > malefic aspect the 4th, lagna and 9th houses causing loss of wealth > and spirituality. Indications are that he will marry a colleague and > will not be good looking> > 4) If Saturn is in his sign of debilitation in 7th house, rest > assured extreme results with no marriage, or divorce> > 5) If Saturn is in his enemy house same result as 4) but to a > lesser degree> > > > Another exception is when Saturn is lord of 2 sustanas - e.g: > Saturn for Capricorn Lagna is lord of 1st and 2nd (lagna lord and > wealth lord). For such a person Saturn in 7th house will mean very > good as 1st and 2nd lord is going to sustana.> > > > I request learned Sreenadhji, Sreeramji, Sunilji, Chandrashekarji > to confirm my analysis.> > > > regards> > kiran> > > > Now Saturn is a malefic in the 7H. As a malefic in the 7H he will > destroy the good things of 7H meaning he will add his colour to the > 7H.> > > > Why delay in marriage/marital grief from Saturn in 7th?> > > > Saturn represents delay, suffering, grief, sorrow, servant etc: > and Saturn in the 7H can cause delay in marriage, evil spouse, grief > from spouse, unfulfilled desires etc.> > > > Why problems in real estate/wealth from Saturn in 7th?> > Now let us see the other statements: Saturn in 7H will aspect the > lagna (7th from 7th), 4th house stands for house, land, maternal > uncle, real estate. So by malefic aspect, Saturn in 7th will cause > problems of wealth> > > > Why present himself ungly and sinful with mean acts?> > Saturn in 7H will malefic aspect the 10th house. 10th house stands > for occupation/professi on, honour, conduct, quality of life in > society> > > > SO the learned sages were correct, mehtaji> > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote: > > Dear All,> > This Saturn in 7th is dragging us long! Is it that no body > sure what to be attributed to Saturn in 7th?!! I request learned > members like Sunil ji to come-up with a clear reading and finish of > this long thread for short! OK. Even though out of context > regarding our current location (i.e. 2n lord in various houses); let > us elaborate the various possible results of Saturn in 7th and let > us come to some tangible and solid RESULTS. I will post my reading > on the same in the next mail. > > It is unnecessary bringing in the Ucha/Neecha/Yaga karaka and > numerous other things + the say too much but mean nothing words like > good/bad/beneficial/malefic/benefic etc. So My question is - What is > the RESULTS to be attributed to Saturn in 7th? Be clear in your > answers and be practical - and for sure we will validate anyone's > reading with practical chart examples in our collection with the > same combination. So let us proceed and try to make this discussion > on Saturn in 7th, more valuable and creative. > > And please note - > > * NO out of context mentioning of divisions, naskshatras, > karakamsas and so on. > > * Be right on on the point - Saturn in 7th (any house); at > the most we are only free to mention the exceptions regarding > ownhouse, exaltation, debilitation etc (if any). > > * Speak about the RESULTS, and AVOID using the vague > words such as good, bad etc> > * AVOID jugglery of words - and be clear on what you know > and what you don't; what you trust and what you not. > > * Check all your books, but don't be bothered by them; if > the CLEAR results spoken by you matches with the chart collection > and actual experience they would be accpeted; and if not what ever > names or books you quote - that would be rejected. > > > > So the ground is ready, rules clear - let us march! > Find the thief and hang him, for all to view! > > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , KAMAL SAHNI > <sightsolutions@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear All> > > > > > soryy for baraging. I was reading with interest and a queation > cameto mind rel\ting to Saturn in 7 not being a good location. For > Libra lagna Sat in Aries (7th house) and also Debliated is BAD but > it is also a Yogkaraka planet for this lagna.> > > > > > Please enlighten> > > > > > kamal> > > > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta astroclinik@ wrote:> > > Dear Srinivas ji,> > > > > > My statement may kindly be read carefully. I have never said > that our Rishis were wrong. On the contrary, we should be thankful > to them for their works on the basis of which we have been able to > get the scholars like B V Raman, K N Rao, K S Krishnamurti and his > wonderful system of Krishnamurti Paddhati, which can give unfailing > and dependable predictions. > > > > > > Good luck and all the best.> > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > > > > > > sreeram srinivas sreeram64@ wrote: Namaste Mehtaji,> > > Mehtaji, can you take some specific cases, to drive home your > point....?? Would appreciate if you take time to convince us that > our Rishis were wrong......> > > With regards,> > > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > , Hasmukhrai > Mehta astroclinik@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Time and again it has been proved that the results mentioned > in the slokas in the classics do not always match the actual results > experienced in real life happening. > > > > > > > > Kiran R kiran.rama@ wrote: Dear Chandrashekarji,> > > > > > > > I am collating some shlokas from classics that tell about > Saturn in 7th house. Of course, there will be exceptions and we can > learn from you and other learned members like Sreenadhji, Sunilji, > Sreeramji etc.> > > > > > > > This is what Saravali of Kalyana Varma says:> > > > "If Saturn is posited in the 7th, the native will always be > subjected to ill health, will lose his wife, be bereft of wealth, > will present himself ugly, be sinful and will do very mean acts"> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Kiran> > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta> > > Astrological services par excellence> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Dear Kiran ji, Good try and good direction of thoughts - but the actual results may vary due to various reasons. For example - * Saturn in Pisces is 6th lord in 7th - causing much harm. * Saturn has special strength in 7th house. * Saturn's conjunction with various planets in 7th has a big effect on the results. * It is quality of 7th lord that determines the wife; and Saturn only superficially provides its nature to the wife (i.e. 7th house). But your contribution is worthy and we will see that many of those results materialize, with minor modification to the readings. Wait, watch and participate. Enjoy! And of course don't ever drop the point that Saturn is a malefic and some malefic results would be present related to 7th for sure - what ever the case be. Because the 'there is no cancellation in astrology' and also that 'the significance of the plant should color things for sure where ever it be' - so the little extra effort is needed only to pin-point and answer the questions - where? and How? Love and regards, Sreenadh , Kiran R <kiran.rama wrote:>> Sreenadhji,> > here is my analysis with exceptions outlined:> > Saturn in 7th house can give following results:> 1) As natural malefic in 7th house, it can bring delay in marriage, marital grief, separation from husband, if wife husband treating her like slave, grief, unfulfilled desires from marriage etc> 2) By malefic aspect of lagna, it can indicate a person who is not good looking and strong.> 3) by malefic aspect of the 10th house from him which is the 4th house, Saturn can cause problems in wealth through real estate/vehicles etc - meaning native may not own his own house or vehicle and even if he does he will not enjoy the same. > 4) by malefic aspect of the 3rd house from him, which is the 9th house, Saturn will cause a person who is not spiritual and does not believe in God and consequently less punya.> > Now what are the exceptions:> 1) Saturn in his sign of exaltation in 7th house will not cause the bad results above. IF saturn is exalted in 7th house, he will give good spouse, good wealth and good punya.> 2) If Saturn is in his own house in 7th house, then good spouse/married life is given. But the quantity and quality is less than 1) which is in exaltation> 3) If Saturn is in friend's house in 7th house then he will not harm the 7th house and married life is fine. But still he will malefic aspect the 4th, lagna and 9th houses causing loss of wealth and spirituality. Indications are that he will marry a colleague and will not be good looking> 4) If Saturn is in his sign of debilitation in 7th house, rest assured extreme results with no marriage, or divorce> 5) If Saturn is in his enemy house same result as 4) but to a lesser degree> > Another exception is when Saturn is lord of 2 sustanas - e.g: Saturn for Capricorn Lagna is lord of 1st and 2nd (lagna lord and wealth lord). For such a person Saturn in 7th house will mean very good as 1st and 2nd lord is going to sustana.> > I request learned Sreenadhji, Sreeramji, Sunilji, Chandrashekarji to confirm my analysis.> > regards> kiran> > Now Saturn is a malefic in the 7H. As a malefic in the 7H he will destroy the good things of 7H meaning he will add his colour to the 7H.> > Why delay in marriage/marital grief from Saturn in 7th?> > Saturn represents delay, suffering, grief, sorrow, servant etc: and Saturn in the 7H can cause delay in marriage, evil spouse, grief from spouse, unfulfilled desires etc.> > Why problems in real estate/wealth from Saturn in 7th?> Now let us see the other statements: Saturn in 7H will aspect the lagna (7th from 7th), 4th house stands for house, land, maternal uncle, real estate. So by malefic aspect, Saturn in 7th will cause problems of wealth> > Why present himself ungly and sinful with mean acts?> Saturn in 7H will malefic aspect the 10th house. 10th house stands for occupation/professi on, honour, conduct, quality of life in society> > SO the learned sages were correct, mehtaji> > Sreenadh sreesog wrote: > Dear All,> This Saturn in 7th is dragging us long! Is it that no body sure what to be attributed to Saturn in 7th?!! I request learned members like Sunil ji to come-up with a clear reading and finish of this long thread for short! OK. Even though out of context regarding our current location (i.e. 2n lord in various houses); let us elaborate the various possible results of Saturn in 7th and let us come to some tangible and solid RESULTS. I will post my reading on the same in the next mail. > It is unnecessary bringing in the Ucha/Neecha/Yaga karaka and numerous other things + the say too much but mean nothing words like good/bad/beneficial/malefic/benefic etc. So My question is - What is the RESULTS to be attributed to Saturn in 7th? Be clear in your answers and be practical - and for sure we will validate anyone's reading with practical chart examples in our collection with the same combination. So let us proceed and try to make this discussion on Saturn in 7th, more valuable and creative. > And please note - > * NO out of context mentioning of divisions, naskshatras, karakamsas and so on. > * Be right on on the point - Saturn in 7th (any house); at the most we are only free to mention the exceptions regarding ownhouse, exaltation, debilitation etc (if any). > * Speak about the RESULTS, and AVOID using the vague words such as good, bad etc> * AVOID jugglery of words - and be clear on what you know and what you don't; what you trust and what you not. > * Check all your books, but don't be bothered by them; if the CLEAR results spoken by you matches with the chart collection and actual experience they would be accpeted; and if not what ever names or books you quote - that would be rejected. > > So the ground is ready, rules clear - let us march! Find the thief and hang him, for all to view! > Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , KAMAL SAHNI sightsolutions@ wrote:> >> > Dear All> > > > soryy for baraging. I was reading with interest and a queation cameto mind rel\ting to Saturn in 7 not being a good location. For Libra lagna Sat in Aries (7th house) and also Debliated is BAD but it is also a Yogkaraka planet for this lagna.> > > > Please enlighten> > > > kamal> > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta astroclinik@ wrote:> > Dear Srinivas ji,> > > > My statement may kindly be read carefully. I have never said that our Rishis were wrong. On the contrary, we should be thankful to them for their works on the basis of which we have been able to get the scholars like B V Raman, K N Rao, K S Krishnamurti and his wonderful system of Krishnamurti Paddhati, which can give unfailing and dependable predictions. > > > > Good luck and all the best.> > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > > > sreeram srinivas sreeram64@ wrote: Namaste Mehtaji,> > Mehtaji, can you take some specific cases, to drive home your point....?? Would appreciate if you take time to convince us that our Rishis were wrong......> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> > , Hasmukhrai Mehta astroclinik@ wrote:> > >> > > Time and again it has been proved that the results mentioned in the slokas in the classics do not always match the actual results experienced in real life happening. > > > > > > Kiran R kiran.rama@ wrote: Dear Chandrashekarji,> > > > > > I am collating some shlokas from classics that tell about Saturn in 7th house. Of course, there will be exceptions and we can learn from you and other learned members like Sreenadhji, Sunilji, Sreeramji etc.> > > > > > This is what Saravali of Kalyana Varma says:> > > "If Saturn is posited in the 7th, the native will always be subjected to ill health, will lose his wife, be bereft of wealth, will present himself ugly, be sinful and will do very mean acts"> > > > > > Regards> > > Kiran> > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta> > Astrological services par excellence> > > > > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Dear Sorabh Sharma ji, ==> > I think what you have said what prove good from a textbook theory > but in practice results may vary. <== Of course they will vary - but to what extend and why? We need to clarify. ==> > My aunt has saturn in 7th and she > has gained from various real estate properties, she is very good > looking and has had a happy marriage. Saturn is in leo in her case. > In another chart of my friend - he has saturn exalted in libra in > the 7th house. His marriage is the worst and ended in divorce within > 2 years. <== Good examples - I request you to keep these charts ready and post them when our first round of discussions are over - so that we could verify our derivations. ==> > I think its necessary to look at the navamsha more than the rashi > chart when it comes to marriage and conclusions based on rashi alone > should not be used. In addition to this it is necessary to look at > the lordships and aspects from both lagna, chandra lagna AND > navamsha, and maybe even look at condition of DK (dara karaka) using > jaimini aspect. Any correlation or repeated aspects seen can then be > used to make a firm conclusion. <== Let us not go into uncessory troubles - the Natal chart itself is enough to explain all such varients, just with the help considering Dasa. Love and regards, Sreenadh , "mrsorabhsharma" <mrsorabhsharma wrote:>> Dear Kiran Ji> > I think what you have said what prove good from a textbook theory > but in practice results may vary. My aunt has saturn in 7th and she > has gained from various real estate properties, she is very good > looking and has had a happy marriage. Saturn is in leo in her case.> > In another chart of my friend - he has saturn exalted in libra in > the 7th house. His marriage is the worst and ended in divorce within > 2 years. > > I think its necessary to look at the navamsha more than the rashi > chart when it comes to marriage and conclusions based on rashi alone > should not be used. In addition to this it is necessary to look at > the lordships and aspects from both lagna, chandra lagna AND > navamsha, and maybe even look at condition of DK (dara karaka) using > jaimini aspect. Any correlation or repeated aspects seen can then be > used to make a firm conclusion.> > Kind regards> Sorabh Sharma> > > > > , Kiran R > kiran.rama@ wrote:> >> > Sreenadhji,> > > > here is my analysis with exceptions outlined:> > > > Saturn in 7th house can give following results:> > 1) As natural malefic in 7th house, it can bring delay in > marriage, marital grief, separation from husband, if wife husband > treating her like slave, grief, unfulfilled desires from marriage etc> > 2) By malefic aspect of lagna, it can indicate a person who is not > good looking and strong.> > 3) by malefic aspect of the 10th house from him which is the 4th > house, Saturn can cause problems in wealth through real > estate/vehicles etc - meaning native may not own his own house or > vehicle and even if he does he will not enjoy the same. > > 4) by malefic aspect of the 3rd house from him, which is the 9th > house, Saturn will cause a person who is not spiritual and does not > believe in God and consequently less punya.> > > > Now what are the exceptions:> > 1) Saturn in his sign of exaltation in 7th house will not cause > the bad results above. IF saturn is exalted in 7th house, he will > give good spouse, good wealth and good punya.> > 2) If Saturn is in his own house in 7th house, then good > spouse/married life is given. But the quantity and quality is less > than 1) which is in exaltation> > 3) If Saturn is in friend's house in 7th house then he will not > harm the 7th house and married life is fine. But still he will > malefic aspect the 4th, lagna and 9th houses causing loss of wealth > and spirituality. Indications are that he will marry a colleague and > will not be good looking> > 4) If Saturn is in his sign of debilitation in 7th house, rest > assured extreme results with no marriage, or divorce> > 5) If Saturn is in his enemy house same result as 4) but to a > lesser degree> > > > Another exception is when Saturn is lord of 2 sustanas - e.g: > Saturn for Capricorn Lagna is lord of 1st and 2nd (lagna lord and > wealth lord). For such a person Saturn in 7th house will mean very > good as 1st and 2nd lord is going to sustana.> > > > I request learned Sreenadhji, Sreeramji, Sunilji, Chandrashekarji > to confirm my analysis.> > > > regards> > kiran> > > > Now Saturn is a malefic in the 7H. As a malefic in the 7H he will > destroy the good things of 7H meaning he will add his colour to the > 7H.> > > > Why delay in marriage/marital grief from Saturn in 7th?> > > > Saturn represents delay, suffering, grief, sorrow, servant etc: > and Saturn in the 7H can cause delay in marriage, evil spouse, grief > from spouse, unfulfilled desires etc.> > > > Why problems in real estate/wealth from Saturn in 7th?> > Now let us see the other statements: Saturn in 7H will aspect the > lagna (7th from 7th), 4th house stands for house, land, maternal > uncle, real estate. So by malefic aspect, Saturn in 7th will cause > problems of wealth> > > > Why present himself ungly and sinful with mean acts?> > Saturn in 7H will malefic aspect the 10th house. 10th house stands > for occupation/professi on, honour, conduct, quality of life in > society> > > > SO the learned sages were correct, mehtaji> > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote: > > Dear All,> > This Saturn in 7th is dragging us long! Is it that no body > sure what to be attributed to Saturn in 7th?!! I request learned > members like Sunil ji to come-up with a clear reading and finish of > this long thread for short! OK. Even though out of context > regarding our current location (i.e. 2n lord in various houses); let > us elaborate the various possible results of Saturn in 7th and let > us come to some tangible and solid RESULTS. I will post my reading > on the same in the next mail. > > It is unnecessary bringing in the Ucha/Neecha/Yaga karaka and > numerous other things + the say too much but mean nothing words like > good/bad/beneficial/malefic/benefic etc. So My question is - What is > the RESULTS to be attributed to Saturn in 7th? Be clear in your > answers and be practical - and for sure we will validate anyone's > reading with practical chart examples in our collection with the > same combination. So let us proceed and try to make this discussion > on Saturn in 7th, more valuable and creative. > > And please note - > > * NO out of context mentioning of divisions, naskshatras, > karakamsas and so on. > > * Be right on on the point - Saturn in 7th (any house); at > the most we are only free to mention the exceptions regarding > ownhouse, exaltation, debilitation etc (if any). > > * Speak about the RESULTS, and AVOID using the vague > words such as good, bad etc> > * AVOID jugglery of words - and be clear on what you know > and what you don't; what you trust and what you not. > > * Check all your books, but don't be bothered by them; if > the CLEAR results spoken by you matches with the chart collection > and actual experience they would be accpeted; and if not what ever > names or books you quote - that would be rejected. > > > > So the ground is ready, rules clear - let us march! > Find the thief and hang him, for all to view! > > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , KAMAL SAHNI > <sightsolutions@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear All> > > > > > soryy for baraging. I was reading with interest and a queation > cameto mind rel\ting to Saturn in 7 not being a good location. For > Libra lagna Sat in Aries (7th house) and also Debliated is BAD but > it is also a Yogkaraka planet for this lagna.> > > > > > Please enlighten> > > > > > kamal> > > > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta astroclinik@ wrote:> > > Dear Srinivas ji,> > > > > > My statement may kindly be read carefully. I have never said > that our Rishis were wrong. On the contrary, we should be thankful > to them for their works on the basis of which we have been able to > get the scholars like B V Raman, K N Rao, K S Krishnamurti and his > wonderful system of Krishnamurti Paddhati, which can give unfailing > and dependable predictions. > > > > > > Good luck and all the best.> > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.> > > > > > > > > sreeram srinivas sreeram64@ wrote: Namaste Mehtaji,> > > Mehtaji, can you take some specific cases, to drive home your > point....?? Would appreciate if you take time to convince us that > our Rishis were wrong......> > > With regards,> > > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > , Hasmukhrai > Mehta astroclinik@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Time and again it has been proved that the results mentioned > in the slokas in the classics do not always match the actual results > experienced in real life happening. > > > > > > > > Kiran R kiran.rama@ wrote: Dear Chandrashekarji,> > > > > > > > I am collating some shlokas from classics that tell about > Saturn in 7th house. Of course, there will be exceptions and we can > learn from you and other learned members like Sreenadhji, Sunilji, > Sreeramji etc.> > > > > > > > This is what Saravali of Kalyana Varma says:> > > > "If Saturn is posited in the 7th, the native will always be > subjected to ill health, will lose his wife, be bereft of wealth, > will present himself ugly, be sinful and will do very mean acts"> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Kiran> > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta> > > Astrological services par excellence> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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