Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Dear Venkat ji, Can you post the birth data so that Mr. Nameisego theories can be applied for your data/statement clearly indicates contrary to his experience. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , R Venkat <rdjvenkat wrote: > > dear > guru in 11th > my wife is having Him in 11th. she is the last child, father is not the eldest but the last > he passed away leaving two elder brothers - i think for her Guru in 11 th took a U-turn ;) > > > nameisego nameisego wrote: > > Friends, > > This part was also published a long time back in various groups where > in I have attempted to explain why Guru shows dual nature which is > exactly opposite in nature, > Some of my friends have jumped the gun in trying to disprove what I > have written. > As I always say, we should have a fresher look with newer approach to > karakatwas of planets. > > Dear Friends, > > I am posting the second part of my paper on Guru. > > Guru Bhagawan as Giver of DHI Intellectual Aura, Tejas, Brilliance of > Dhi shakti etc. is highly reveared in Vedic Astrology. His aspect > infuses life,fortifies athe Bhava he aspects and gives superior > grasping power of shastras. > > In my last posting on Guru I have tried and posted some charts to > corroborate the dictum BHAVA NASHA KARO JEEVA, I had posted its > effects till 8th bhava. Some time back, in other postings in Another > discussion group, I had posted my findings on Guru in 7th bhava also . > > I have found Guru in 7th bhava delaying marriages and also giving an > inclination of straying from normal marital life .It has been found > to give lovemarriages and Extra marital interests. > > Guru in 8th bhava has been found to take life and give > Alpayu/Madhyayu to > jatakas. Guru in 9th has been found by me to be very detrimental to > father in a lot of cases. Father's luck starts dwindling after the > jatakas are born. Guru in 10th bhava has been observed by me to give > failures in business to self and loss of property to father. > > Guru in 11th makes a person first born or 1st male child or it denotes > miscarriage/short life to previous borns of the siblings elder to > jataka. Father > is found to be eldest born or he outsurvives all his siblings. > > Guru in 12th bhava gives destruction of Shaiya sukham resulting in > very late marriages , remarriage and inflow of money.I have found > people with 12th Guru earning in excess and spending little. > > Guru and Sani , always give something and take away something. > If in 9th, if a person becomes lucky, his father suffers or dies. > In second house, he gives a lot of money and then lands the man in > neck deep debts. > In 4th house, if he gives a house, he takes away vahana or mother or > somerthing connected with 4th house. > > My whole exercise in giving examples of negetive traits of Guru is > not to demean Guru but trying to enter in an excercise to reach the > bottom of the thing and find out why GURU gives very bad results. > > I have done research into the causes and found the cause to be very > simple as always. As written before, Guru takes root in a bhava and > in order to give something in aspects to other bhavas, it sucks the > inner strength of the bhava like a tube well or a wick of a lamp.In > this process some attributes of a bhavaare destoyed.The examples are > already given as above. > > The cause may lie in his ownership of Dhanur Rasi. > What is so special about Dhanur Rasi? > Dhanur is an Agni Tatwa rasi which is termed as KRURA or PITILESS . > It is the sign that falls in 9th house of kalapurusha chart.Over this > sign, a > Jathaka has no control as it signifies Bhagya and Pita. > If Mesha is the jathaka, then Dhanur Rasi is the father. Nakshatras in > Dhanur rasi are, MOOLA, belonging to Ketu, Purvashadha of Shukra and > U.Shadha of > Surya.If you think the significance of this, it means, Father puts > Atma > Tatwa(Sun) in His sperms(Shukra) and thereby reduces his own life > (ketu) > . > Since only 1st pada of U.Shadha is in Dhanur Rasi, it means Father > puts only a > part of his Atma tatwa in the Sperm. As he may have many other > children. > Guru is made the owner of this sign as the combination of Sperm, Atma > tatwa > signifies Sum total of Jeeva or Life.This is why Guru is also known > as JEEVA. It > may look paradoxical that a dry sign should signify life. But it is > true. > Why the sign is Krura? This sign is Krura because When the Ojas of > Father > leaves him, he reduces his Tejas and his Atma shakti becomes > depleated or KSHINA. > > This is a krura karma. > > All this is ok so far. > But why should the Dhanur Rasi be affecting its owner so much ? > > I would like to take you back to my work on Plantery Nodes . > Out of the Nodes of Guru and Sani, we are concerned with the > following nodes. > > Jupiter'e Northen node GURA (My termonology)falls in > Gemini,17Deg.40mts in > Aridra Nakshatra. > > Jupiter'e southern node GUKE falls in Dhanur Rasi .17Deg.40 mt > in P.Shadha Nakshatra. > > Saturn's Northern Node SARA falls in Gemini.0.Deg 56mts. > in Mrigshirsha Nakshatra. > > Saturn's southern node SAKE falls in Dhanur Rasi.0.Deg 56.mts > Southern Node in MULA nakshatra. > > IF YOU LOOK AT SOUTHERN NODE OF SATURN (Sani's Ketu), IT IS IN MULA > AND THIS > > EXPLAINS WHY MULA NAKSHATRA IS SO POISONOUS.!!!Remarkable isn't it? > IF YOU LOOK AT SOUTHERN NODE OF GURU, (Ketu of Jupiter) IT IS IN > SAGGITARIUS.!! > > No wonder Guru is the Lord of Knowledge and Intelligence. > These nodes are as good as planets in those signs. Of the above > nodes, it has been found that nodes of Mars,Jupiter and Saturn are > very important and have a remarkable effect in mundane and personal > life. > > Since each node takes over 30,000 to 40,000 years to change a sign, > we can practically say that they do not change their fixed positions > during our lifetime. > Dhanur rasi is represented by A Hunter. > > Dhanur Rasi has SAKE,and GUKE the southern nodes of Sani and Guru. It > also has > Mula Nakshatra of Lunar southern node Ketu. > > Having three Ketus power is something very very powerful thing. > Ketu is termed as Daruna, Tikshna,Hangman,Atirogi, Sinful planet, > karaka of Pain and suffering,Tamasika, living in cremation ground, > without any Rasa,a snake, he is very old of Vayu prakriti,Akash > Tatwa ,Headless spirit. > > On the positive side, Ketu is Moksha karaka and Antargyani. > So when Guru becomes the lord of Dhanur Rasi, he is responsible for > imbibing the attributes of Ketus of Dhanu Rasi. > > Imagine how will it be when there are Two Permenent Ketus in Dhanur > rasi andaspect of Sani's Rahu SARA and Guru's Rahu GURA on Dhanur > Rasi ??. > > Compared to this, Meena Rasi which is another Rasi owned by Guru , is > totally opposite in nature more in tune with Guru's good attributes. > Hence Guru gives two types of results whenever he occupies anysign. > This result is part negetive and part positive. > > So when we talk of Guru and his effects, we are talking of a planet > with > almost exactly opposite attributes.Dr. Jackyll & Hyde personified. > > He is a hangman and a killer and at the same time Giver of Life. > He is the chief cause of disease and he is the medicine. > Guru is very mighty and has very benign aspect.Guru gives us oxygen > and is > Jeeva.Without Guru's help, we would all be Mudha and lifeless. > Let us pray Guru with all our heart and full faith for his Amrit > Drishti. > > Brum Bruhaspataye Namah: > Looking for last minute shopping deals? 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Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Dear Mr. Venkat, It would be a nice idea to look at your wife's chart. Please do post her birth details. And as informed earlier, this adage is NOT MY THEORY. Be blessed Tatvam-Asi , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Dear Venkat ji, > > Can you post the birth data so that Mr. Nameisego theories can be > applied for your data/statement clearly indicates contrary to his > experience. > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > , R Venkat > <rdjvenkat@> wrote: > > > > dear > > guru in 11th > > my wife is having Him in 11th. she is the last child, father is not > the eldest but the last > > he passed away leaving two elder brothers - i think for her Guru in 11 > th took a U-turn ;) > > > > > > nameisego nameisego@ wrote: > > > > Friends, > > > > This part was also published a long time back in various groups where > > in I have attempted to explain why Guru shows dual nature which is > > exactly opposite in nature, > > Some of my friends have jumped the gun in trying to disprove what I > > have written. > > As I always say, we should have a fresher look with newer approach to > > karakatwas of planets. > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > I am posting the second part of my paper on Guru. > > > > Guru Bhagawan as Giver of DHI Intellectual Aura, Tejas, Brilliance of > > Dhi shakti etc. is highly reveared in Vedic Astrology. His aspect > > infuses life,fortifies athe Bhava he aspects and gives superior > > grasping power of shastras. > > > > In my last posting on Guru I have tried and posted some charts to > > corroborate the dictum BHAVA NASHA KARO JEEVA, I had posted its > > effects till 8th bhava. Some time back, in other postings in Another > > discussion group, I had posted my findings on Guru in 7th bhava also . > > > > I have found Guru in 7th bhava delaying marriages and also giving an > > inclination of straying from normal marital life .It has been found > > to give lovemarriages and Extra marital interests. > > > > Guru in 8th bhava has been found to take life and give > > Alpayu/Madhyayu to > > jatakas. Guru in 9th has been found by me to be very detrimental to > > father in a lot of cases. Father's luck starts dwindling after the > > jatakas are born. Guru in 10th bhava has been observed by me to give > > failures in business to self and loss of property to father. > > > > Guru in 11th makes a person first born or 1st male child or it denotes > > miscarriage/short life to previous borns of the siblings elder to > > jataka. Father > > is found to be eldest born or he outsurvives all his siblings. > > > > Guru in 12th bhava gives destruction of Shaiya sukham resulting in > > very late marriages , remarriage and inflow of money.I have found > > people with 12th Guru earning in excess and spending little. > > > > Guru and Sani , always give something and take away something. > > If in 9th, if a person becomes lucky, his father suffers or dies. > > In second house, he gives a lot of money and then lands the man in > > neck deep debts. > > In 4th house, if he gives a house, he takes away vahana or mother or > > somerthing connected with 4th house. > > > > My whole exercise in giving examples of negetive traits of Guru is > > not to demean Guru but trying to enter in an excercise to reach the > > bottom of the thing and find out why GURU gives very bad results. > > > > I have done research into the causes and found the cause to be very > > simple as always. As written before, Guru takes root in a bhava and > > in order to give something in aspects to other bhavas, it sucks the > > inner strength of the bhava like a tube well or a wick of a lamp.In > > this process some attributes of a bhavaare destoyed.The examples are > > already given as above. > > > > The cause may lie in his ownership of Dhanur Rasi. > > What is so special about Dhanur Rasi? > > Dhanur is an Agni Tatwa rasi which is termed as KRURA or PITILESS . > > It is the sign that falls in 9th house of kalapurusha chart.Over this > > sign, a > > Jathaka has no control as it signifies Bhagya and Pita. > > If Mesha is the jathaka, then Dhanur Rasi is the father. Nakshatras in > > Dhanur rasi are, MOOLA, belonging to Ketu, Purvashadha of Shukra and > > U.Shadha of > > Surya.If you think the significance of this, it means, Father puts > > Atma > > Tatwa(Sun) in His sperms(Shukra) and thereby reduces his own life > > (ketu) > > . > > Since only 1st pada of U.Shadha is in Dhanur Rasi, it means Father > > puts only a > > part of his Atma tatwa in the Sperm. As he may have many other > > children. > > Guru is made the owner of this sign as the combination of Sperm, Atma > > tatwa > > signifies Sum total of Jeeva or Life.This is why Guru is also known > > as JEEVA. It > > may look paradoxical that a dry sign should signify life. But it is > > true. > > Why the sign is Krura? This sign is Krura because When the Ojas of > > Father > > leaves him, he reduces his Tejas and his Atma shakti becomes > > depleated or KSHINA. > > > > This is a krura karma. > > > > All this is ok so far. > > But why should the Dhanur Rasi be affecting its owner so much ? > > > > I would like to take you back to my work on Plantery Nodes . > > Out of the Nodes of Guru and Sani, we are concerned with the > > following nodes. > > > > Jupiter'e Northen node GURA (My termonology)falls in > > Gemini,17Deg.40mts in > > Aridra Nakshatra. > > > > Jupiter'e southern node GUKE falls in Dhanur Rasi .17Deg.40 mt > > in P.Shadha Nakshatra. > > > > Saturn's Northern Node SARA falls in Gemini.0.Deg 56mts. > > in Mrigshirsha Nakshatra. > > > > Saturn's southern node SAKE falls in Dhanur Rasi.0.Deg 56.mts > > Southern Node in MULA nakshatra. > > > > IF YOU LOOK AT SOUTHERN NODE OF SATURN (Sani's Ketu), IT IS IN MULA > > AND THIS > > > > EXPLAINS WHY MULA NAKSHATRA IS SO POISONOUS.!!!Remarkable isn't it? > > IF YOU LOOK AT SOUTHERN NODE OF GURU, (Ketu of Jupiter) IT IS IN > > SAGGITARIUS.!! > > > > No wonder Guru is the Lord of Knowledge and Intelligence. > > These nodes are as good as planets in those signs. Of the above > > nodes, it has been found that nodes of Mars,Jupiter and Saturn are > > very important and have a remarkable effect in mundane and personal > > life. > > > > Since each node takes over 30,000 to 40,000 years to change a sign, > > we can practically say that they do not change their fixed positions > > during our lifetime. > > Dhanur rasi is represented by A Hunter. > > > > Dhanur Rasi has SAKE,and GUKE the southern nodes of Sani and Guru. It > > also has > > Mula Nakshatra of Lunar southern node Ketu. > > > > Having three Ketus power is something very very powerful thing. > > Ketu is termed as Daruna, Tikshna,Hangman,Atirogi, Sinful planet, > > karaka of Pain and suffering,Tamasika, living in cremation ground, > > without any Rasa,a snake, he is very old of Vayu prakriti,Akash > > Tatwa ,Headless spirit. > > > > On the positive side, Ketu is Moksha karaka and Antargyani. > > So when Guru becomes the lord of Dhanur Rasi, he is responsible for > > imbibing the attributes of Ketus of Dhanu Rasi. > > > > Imagine how will it be when there are Two Permenent Ketus in Dhanur > > rasi andaspect of Sani's Rahu SARA and Guru's Rahu GURA on Dhanur > > Rasi ??. > > > > Compared to this, Meena Rasi which is another Rasi owned by Guru , is > > totally opposite in nature more in tune with Guru's good attributes. > > Hence Guru gives two types of results whenever he occupies anysign. > > This result is part negetive and part positive. > > > > So when we talk of Guru and his effects, we are talking of a planet > > with > > almost exactly opposite attributes.Dr. Jackyll & Hyde personified. > > > > He is a hangman and a killer and at the same time Giver of Life. > > He is the chief cause of disease and he is the medicine. > > Guru is very mighty and has very benign aspect.Guru gives us oxygen > > and is > > Jeeva.Without Guru's help, we would all be Mudha and lifeless. > > Let us pray Guru with all our heart and full faith for his Amrit > > Drishti. > > > > Brum Bruhaspataye Namah: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? 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Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 09-JULY-1968 TRICHY 13.01 HOURS TAMIL NADUnameisego <nameisego wrote: Dear Mr. Venkat,It would be a nice idea to look at your wife's chart.Please do post her birth details.And as informed earlier, this adage is NOT MY THEORY.Be blessedTatvam-Asi , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote:>> > Dear Venkat ji,> > Can you post the birth data so that Mr. Nameisego theories can be> applied for your data/statement clearly indicates contrary to his> experience.> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> > , R Venkat> <rdjvenkat@> wrote:> >> > dear> > guru in 11th> > my wife is having Him in 11th. she is the last child, father is not> the eldest but the last> > he passed away leaving two elder brothers - i think for her Guru in 11> th took a U-turn ;)> >> >> > nameisego nameisego@ wrote:> >> > Friends,> >> > This part was also published a long time back in various groups where> > in I have attempted to explain why Guru shows dual nature which is> > exactly opposite in nature,> > Some of my friends have jumped the gun in trying to disprove what I> > have written.> > As I always say, we should have a fresher look with newer approach to> > karakatwas of planets.> >> > Dear Friends,> >> > I am posting the second part of my paper on Guru.> >> > Guru Bhagawan as Giver of DHI Intellectual Aura, Tejas, Brilliance of> > Dhi shakti etc. is highly reveared in Vedic Astrology. His aspect> > infuses life,fortifies athe Bhava he aspects and gives superior> > grasping power of shastras.> >> > In my last posting on Guru I have tried and posted some charts to> > corroborate the dictum BHAVA NASHA KARO JEEVA, I had posted its> > effects till 8th bhava. Some time back, in other postings in Another> > discussion group, I had posted my findings on Guru in 7th bhava also .> >> > I have found Guru in 7th bhava delaying marriages and also giving an> > inclination of straying from normal marital life .It has been found> > to give lovemarriages and Extra marital interests.> >> > Guru in 8th bhava has been found to take life and give> > Alpayu/Madhyayu to> > jatakas. Guru in 9th has been found by me to be very detrimental to> > father in a lot of cases. Father's luck starts dwindling after the> > jatakas are born. Guru in 10th bhava has been observed by me to give> > failures in business to self and loss of property to father.> >> > Guru in 11th makes a person first born or 1st male child or it denotes> > miscarriage/short life to previous borns of the siblings elder to> > jataka. Father> > is found to be eldest born or he outsurvives all his siblings.> >> > Guru in 12th bhava gives destruction of Shaiya sukham resulting in> > very late marriages , remarriage and inflow of money.I have found> > people with 12th Guru earning in excess and spending little.> >> > Guru and Sani , always give something and take away something.> > If in 9th, if a person becomes lucky, his father suffers or dies.> > In second house, he gives a lot of money and then lands the man in> > neck deep debts.> > In 4th house, if he gives a house, he takes away vahana or mother or> > somerthing connected with 4th house.> >> > My whole exercise in giving examples of negetive traits of Guru is> > not to demean Guru but trying to enter in an excercise to reach the> > bottom of the thing and find out why GURU gives very bad results.> >> > I have done research into the causes and found the cause to be very> > simple as always. As written before, Guru takes root in a bhava and> > in order to give something in aspects to other bhavas, it sucks the> > inner strength of the bhava like a tube well or a wick of a lamp.In> > this process some attributes of a bhavaare destoyed.The examples are> > already given as above.> >> > The cause may lie in his ownership of Dhanur Rasi.> > What is so special about Dhanur Rasi?> > Dhanur is an Agni Tatwa rasi which is termed as KRURA or PITILESS .> > It is the sign that falls in 9th house of kalapurusha chart.Over this> > sign, a> > Jathaka has no control as it signifies Bhagya and Pita.> > If Mesha is the jathaka, then Dhanur Rasi is the father. Nakshatras in> > Dhanur rasi are, MOOLA, belonging to Ketu, Purvashadha of Shukra and> > U.Shadha of> > Surya.If you think the significance of this, it means, Father puts> > Atma> > Tatwa(Sun) in His sperms(Shukra) and thereby reduces his own life> > (ketu)> > .> > Since only 1st pada of U.Shadha is in Dhanur Rasi, it means Father> > puts only a> > part of his Atma tatwa in the Sperm. As he may have many other> > children.> > Guru is made the owner of this sign as the combination of Sperm, Atma> > tatwa> > signifies Sum total of Jeeva or Life.This is why Guru is also known> > as JEEVA. It> > may look paradoxical that a dry sign should signify life. But it is> > true.> > Why the sign is Krura? This sign is Krura because When the Ojas of> > Father> > leaves him, he reduces his Tejas and his Atma shakti becomes> > depleated or KSHINA.> >> > This is a krura karma.> >> > All this is ok so far.> > But why should the Dhanur Rasi be affecting its owner so much ?> >> > I would like to take you back to my work on Plantery Nodes .> > Out of the Nodes of Guru and Sani, we are concerned with the> > following nodes.> >> > Jupiter'e Northen node GURA (My termonology)falls in> > Gemini,17Deg.40mts in> > Aridra Nakshatra.> >> > Jupiter'e southern node GUKE falls in Dhanur Rasi .17Deg.40 mt> > in P.Shadha Nakshatra.> >> > Saturn's Northern Node SARA falls in Gemini.0.Deg 56mts.> > in Mrigshirsha Nakshatra.> >> > Saturn's southern node SAKE falls in Dhanur Rasi.0.Deg 56.mts> > Southern Node in MULA nakshatra.> >> > IF YOU LOOK AT SOUTHERN NODE OF SATURN (Sani's Ketu), IT IS IN MULA> > AND THIS> >> > EXPLAINS WHY MULA NAKSHATRA IS SO POISONOUS.!!!Remarkable isn't it?> > IF YOU LOOK AT SOUTHERN NODE OF GURU, (Ketu of Jupiter) IT IS IN> > SAGGITARIUS.!!> >> > No wonder Guru is the Lord of Knowledge and Intelligence.> > These nodes are as good as planets in those signs. Of the above> > nodes, it has been found that nodes of Mars,Jupiter and Saturn are> > very important and have a remarkable effect in mundane and personal> > life.> >> > Since each node takes over 30,000 to 40,000 years to change a sign,> > we can practically say that they do not change their fixed positions> > during our lifetime.> > Dhanur rasi is represented by A Hunter.> >> > Dhanur Rasi has SAKE,and GUKE the southern nodes of Sani and Guru. It> > also has> > Mula Nakshatra of Lunar southern node Ketu.> >> > Having three Ketus power is something very very powerful thing.> > Ketu is termed as Daruna, Tikshna,Hangman,Atirogi, Sinful planet,> > karaka of Pain and suffering,Tamasika, living in cremation ground,> > without any Rasa,a snake, he is very old of Vayu prakriti,Akash> > Tatwa ,Headless spirit.> >> > On the positive side, Ketu is Moksha karaka and Antargyani.> > So when Guru becomes the lord of Dhanur Rasi, he is responsible for> > imbibing the attributes of Ketus of Dhanu Rasi.> >> > Imagine how will it be when there are Two Permenent Ketus in Dhanur> > rasi andaspect of Sani's Rahu SARA and Guru's Rahu GURA on Dhanur> > Rasi ??.> >> > Compared to this, Meena Rasi which is another Rasi owned by Guru , is> > totally opposite in nature more in tune with Guru's good attributes.> > Hence Guru gives two types of results whenever he occupies anysign.> > This result is part negetive and part positive.> >> > So when we talk of Guru and his effects, we are talking of a planet> > with> > almost exactly opposite attributes.Dr. Jackyll & Hyde personified.> >> > He is a hangman and a killer and at the same time Giver of Life.> > He is the chief cause of disease and he is the medicine.> > Guru is very mighty and has very benign aspect.Guru gives us oxygen> > and is> > Jeeva.Without Guru's help, we would all be Mudha and lifeless.> > Let us pray Guru with all our heart and full faith for his Amrit> > Drishti.> >> > Brum Bruhaspataye Namah:> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? 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