Jupiter (Thread owners - Pt. Arjun ji, Sreenivas ji)

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Dear Sunil ji,

He meant C-Hari (short for Chandra Hari) ayanamsa .. :=) Me too used

to write CHari to save typing. :=)

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

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> Hare ramakrishna,

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> dear anantha krishna ji ,

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>

> which ayanamsa u r using ,what is this chari ayanamsa --or is it

> chandra hari ayanamsa .

>

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> also i feel u r using 8hrs GMT time but its 7.30 hrs GMT those days

> .Pls read the all posts and re do the chart .

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> thanks for participating

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>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

>

>

> , Anantha Krishnan

> anantha_krishnan_98@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Sheevani Ji and Sunil Ji:

> > If I use Chari Ayanamsa, I get Gemini lagna 27 deg 42.

> > This puts Rahu in the ninth house, which is the worst place for it

to

> be.

> > It also answers his problems in the Rahu mahadasa.

> > Gets married and divorced in Jup dasa; 7L in 10 H (good)and also 7L

in

> 6H(not so good) in NAV- answers why he gets married and later it

breaks

> up in the same mahadasa. Also it was why he was able to get his law

> degree in this maha dasa..

> > Fifth Lord Venus (in charge of progeny among other things) is in the

> enemy's house, afflicted by Mars- a natural and functional malefic and

> Ketu, -always interested in taking something away from you, which you

> desire. This might explain why he has no children.

> > The current and the next maha dasa is Sa and Me. Both of them are

> functional benefics and are both well situated in friendly/own home.

The

> only problem is that they are both combust, Sat more so than Me.

> > Next dasa Me which starts in 2012 will be better but of course by

> then, the prime time would have gone.....

> > Best wishes

> > anantha krishnan

> > sheevani147 sheevani147@ wrote: Dear Sunilji,

> >

> > Namaste ji,

> >

> > Thank you for your analysis of the chart..

> >

> > My personal views are that Rahu mahadasha was the hardest period for

> > him, lots of frustrations and health problems,, also the period he

> > started drinking..

> >

> > Jupiter MD, so far has been his best period, he was happier in

> > himself and got his Law degree..

> >

> > Regarding his drinking habits,, although like all alcoholics it

> > started with drinking on a daily basis,, but later( 1990's onwards)

> > it was more 'binge drinking' meaning he wud not touch alcohol for

> > many months or even a year or two, then when problems arise,, he

> > would drink heavily for all day for a week or so and ends up in

> > hospital. His last drinking episode was in 2006..

> >

> > One question, if I may? what in his horoscope denied him of

> > children,, he loves children very much.

> >

> > Many thanks

> >

> > Warmest regards

> > Sheevani

> >

> > , " sunil nair "

> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hare rama krishna ,

> > >

> > > dear shivani ji .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I was realy studying the chart with various options and its

> > realay a

> > > interesting chart which reveals almost all astro principles known

> > to me

> > > .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nativ has shoola yoga ( sapta grahas in 3 signs) and a spoiled

gaja

> > > kesary yoga .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > All most all benefic dasas to lagna has passed already and now

sani

> > s

> > > dasa running who is debilated in amsa .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > rahu in 8th house and sani is debilated (also combust )as 7th Lord

(

> > > both contributed a divorse ) also 9th Lord jup in own house and

> > vakra

> > > .venus the karaka for marriage afflicted heavily .MOOn is weak as

> > shukla

> > > prathama and nite birth .so lagna lord is also weak .

> > >

> > > also 2nd house and Lord and karaka ( jup ) afflicted given him

> > bad

> > > habbits regrds to drinking as affliction in 2nd house .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > also affected in earning same is with 4th house

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 9th Lord is strong in chart so may be reasons for dependable

source

> > of

> > > support from father .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > coming periods of rahu and jupiter may giv him some work i hope

tho

> > main

> > > period lord is weak .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > also sadesati going on and sani goin tru a weak rasi .also next

> > maha of

> > > merc also weak to deliver good results .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 9th Lord of dharma is strong ,so praying vishnu will help him if

he

> > can

> > > reduce drinking habbits .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > regrds sunil nair .

> > >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " sheevani147 "

> > > <sheevani147@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sunil ji.

> > > >

> > > > Namaste.

> > > >

> > > > Sure Sunil ji,, I am happy to share his birth details and events

> > in

> > > > his life..

> > > >

> > > > Birthdate,, 2nd October 1951,

> > > > time 01:55 hrs ( past midnight)

> > > > POB.. Penang, Malaysia..(Timezone +7.5 hrs GMT) u might

remember!

> > > > Lagna is cancer..

> > > >

> > > > He is good looking, light skin, 5'6 tall. slim built. Very

> > > > intelligent, soft spoken, though he has a quick temper, which

> > > > subsides quickly too. although he appears arrogant, but is

really

> > > > very friendly and caring.. good communication skills, both

spoken

> > and

> > > > written, good with debates, has good general knowledge.

> > > >

> > > > After completing his senior cambridge exams, travelled to India

in

> > > > 1968 to study medicine.. spent 2 years in punjab, 2 years in

> > > > rajasthan, and 2 years in Bombay,, although he passed his exams

> > but

> > > > didnt get admission into university.. Got into wrong company,,

had

> > > > lots of problems, took to drinking alcohol regularly, sqandered

> > money

> > > > and had health issues..

> > > >

> > > > Came back to Malaysia in 1974.. Got a job in civil service and

got

> > > > married in 1981. Drinking problem continued..lost jobs in

> > sucession

> > > > due to his addiction.. No children, divorced in 1992..

> > > >

> > > > In 1984, came to UK, studied Law and graduated with LLB in 1989.

> > > > Started his baristership training but did not complete it.

> > Returned

> > > > home in 1991.

> > > >

> > > > Remarried in 1996 in India to a young widow with 2 young sons..

> > > > Had a son of his own in Nov 1998 but child died during

> > childbirth..

> > > >

> > > > After death of child, constant fights between husband and wife

and

> > > > finally in 2005 got separation from his wife. Moved to UK in

2007,

> > > > got permanent right to reside in UK.. Currently living with

> > parents,

> > > > looking after them.

> > > >

> > > > No self made assests, lived off father,s wealth most of his

life..

> > > > Tried various businesses and jobs,ended in losses and whenever

> > > > things got tough, he took to the bottle.. Although he can and

did

> > > > work hard for periods, but efforts were not

consistent..Generally

> > not

> > > > been very lucky..

> > > >

> > > > He is a wonderful individual to know, not reliable due to

drinking

> > > > habits.. He no longer has his drinking addiction, is very

> > > > spiritual/religious now, does a lot of community work and looks

> > after

> > > > his parents well.

> > > >

> > > > Warmest regards

> > > > Sheevani

> > > >

> > > > , " sunil nair "

> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare rama krishna ,

> > > > >

> > > > > dear shivani ji ,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > can u post the data of ur brother and post what ever known

> > > > details

> > > > > to the grp .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Let us see how they differ each other .Off cource kaal desh

> > patra

> > > > > principle apply here and one chart is a male and other is a

> > feamale

> > > > and

> > > > > place of birth is off cource differrent .We r curious to know

> > how

> > > > and

> > > > > what realy happened .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I got once a similar chart ( differnt data ) ,one is a film

> > > > producer

> > > > > and business man from south and other is a unmarried very

> > beutiful

> > > > delhi

> > > > > girl who is working as a manager in a showroom ,and wanted to

> > know

> > > > when

> > > > > she will get married and the male chart i was consulted by

some

> > > > relativ

> > > > > to know abt the success of a 2nd marriage ,after an un

> > successful

> > > > lov

> > > > > marriage and divorce .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > actualy i dont hav data with me ,off cource its some where in

> > > > daily

> > > > > entry books .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > so pls post the data with ur observation and analysis and

> > > > comparisons

> > > > > if possible .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > >

> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " sheevani147 "

> > > > > <sheevani147@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My older brother has identical chart to your mother.. He was

> > born

> > > > on

> > > > > > 2 Oct 1951.. time 01:55 hrs. When I made chart of your

> > mother,, I

> > > > > > thought I was seeing double..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > warmest regards

> > > > > > Sheevani

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > Vijayanarasimha H

> > > > > > Pakka hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Shreenadhji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for the reply. What you said seems very logical,

but

> > even

> > > > > > after change in Ayanamsha as you suggested and change in

year

> > > > length,

> > > > > > I get the same. She had uterus operation in Sep 30, 2001 and

> > on

> > > > Oct

> > > > > > 8th, she had brain haemorrage in the hospital itself, and

> > after

> > > > that

> > > > > > it was hell for all of us for nearly 3 months. Life seemed

to

> > end

> > > > for

> > > > > > all of us, and due to Lord Krishna and Lord Narsimha's grace

> > she

> > > > was

> > > > > > brought back to normal life and we all are a happy family

> > now. My

> > > > > > life changed after that. She was running Jup-Rahu-Venus

dasha

> > > > during

> > > > > > that time. She was expecting something to happen to her

lower

> > > > portion

> > > > > > of the body during operation (rahu representing legs). We

were

> > > > > > expecting something bad because during Rahu mahadasha, from

> > 1968

> > > > to

> > > > > > 1986 (especially 1976-1986), life was hell for my parents

> > (zero

> > > > > > income, living in a small house, father working day and

night

> > and

> > > > > > cheated by work partners, mother terribly illtreated from

in-

> > laws,

> > > > > > had abortion, etc). 1986 we shifted to a

> > > > > > > good house and suddenly all our problems almost vanished,

> > father

> > > > > > had a very good income, built 2 houses, established

industry,

> > etc

> > > > > > (she was running jupiter dasha from then). Till 2001 she had

a

> > > > very

> > > > > > good house life. Now, since saturn is in 3rd house, she is

> > > > enjoying

> > > > > > life again.

> > > > > > > DOB: 1-Oct-1951, 02.36 am, Koppal, 76E09, 15N21.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The point here I feel is that, even if malefic planets are

> > bad

> > > > > > (like rahu), a good placed jupiter somehow brings good

> > results to

> > > > the

> > > > > > native in the end. Jupiter is indeed life-saving if placed

> > well

> > > > and

> > > > > > has power.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Vijay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji,

> > > > > > > I will clarify it further -

> > > > > > > - Jupiter owns 6th house (disease) from Cancer Lagna

> > > > > > > - Mars owns the head of the Kalapurusha, i.e. Aries

> > > > > > > - Mars is debilitated in Lagna (cancer) which indicates

> > > > > > head of the native

> > > > > > > Where ever Mars be possibly this is a combination that may

> > give

> > > > > > disease or trouble. If there is malefic in Cancer

(especially

> > > > Ketu)

> > > > > > it could even give a minor heart attack in that period.

> > Therefore

> > > > > > considering the pointer Jupiter provides towards disease and

> > the

> > > > > > repeated pointers Mars provides towards head - it is clear

> > that

> > > > the

> > > > > > said period should be Ju/Ma.

> > > > > > > And that is why the guess, you must be getting it wrong,

> > due to

> > > > > > the use of wrong Ayanamsa and year length. It is such

examples

> > > > that

> > > > > > helps us to verify the validity of the Ayanamsa and year

> > length we

> > > > > > use in a practical perspective.

> > > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ,

" Sreenadh "

> > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > > > > > Re: Jupiter (Thread owners - Pt. Arjun ji, Sreenivas ji)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji,

> > > > > > > ==>

> > > > > > > > My mother has jupiter in 9th house in pisces and rahu in

> > 8th,

> > > > she

> > > > > > had brain-haemorrhage in

> > > > > > > > jup dasha-rahu bhukthi

> > > > > > > <==

> > > > > > > This statement must be wrong - with the ownership of Aries

> > (the

> > > > > > head of Kalapurusha), it should be Jupiter dasa-Mars antara;

> > > > please

> > > > > > use CHari Ayanamsa (46 min more than Lahari) and 360 day

> > Savana

> > > > year

> > > > > > and let me know whether this assumption is correct or not.

> > Also

> > > > > > please inform where Mars is placed in the chart.

> > > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

> > > > Vijayanarasimha

> > > > > > H Pakka

> > > > > > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > Re: Re: Jupiter (Thread

> > owners -

> > > > Pt.

> > > > > > Arjun

> > > > > > > > ji, Sreenivas ji)

> > > > > > > > Dear Sunilji / Shreenadhji, Its very interesting (or

> > obvious)

> > > > how

> > > > > > > > malefic planets affect jupiter. We can also view the

> > chart as

> > > > > > benefic

> > > > > > > > jupiter reducing the malefic effect of rahu and we get

> > mixed

> > > > > > results

> > > > > > > > Anyway the more complications with jupiter, the more

> > > > discussions

> > > > > > we can

> > > > > > > > have. Maybe malefic-uninfluenced and powerful jupiter is

> > the

> > > > one

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > truly makes the native famous, righteous, king-like,

etc.

> > I

> > > > would

> > > > > > rather

> > > > > > > > say from experience that, if for example the native has

> > some

> > > > bad

> > > > > > > > placements of other planets but has a good placement and

> > > > strength

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > jupiter, he suffers sometimes but finally he emerges

> > > > victorious.

> > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > should be the approach a practical astrologer should

take

> > > > while

> > > > > > > > predicting results, rather than jumping guns to proclaim

> > that

> > > > a

> > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > jupiter (or in lagna) will make the native king-like. My

> > > > mother

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > jupiter in 9th house in pisces and rahu in 8th, she had

> > > > > > > > brain-haemorrhage in jup dasha-rahu bhukthi (also

jupiter

> > was

> > > > in

> > > > > > ghataka

> > > > > > > > sthana in 10th house from moon in transit), but she

> > recovered

> > > > > > > > fantastically and is perfectly fine (taking some regular

> > > > tablets)

> > > > > > now.

> > > > > > > > So, dangers are there due to some planets but if some

> > other

> > > > > > planets,

> > > > > > > > especially jupiter is good in one's chart, then the

final

> > > > victory

> > > > > > is to

> > > > > > > > the native. Regarding winding up the jupiter in lagna

> > thread,

> > > > it

> > > > > > > > seems a big job if we start considering the effects of

> > > > jupiter in

> > > > > > each

> > > > > > > > lagna and also influence of each planet on jupiter in

> > lagna.

> > > > Then

> > > > > > we get

> > > > > > > > innumerable combinations to deal with , example: 1.

> > Jupiter in

> > > > > > Aries

> > > > > > > > lagna, uninfluenced

> > > > > > > > 2. Jupiter in Aries lagna, influenced by saturn, 3.

> > Jupiter in

> > > > > > Aries

> > > > > > > > lagna influenced by sun, etc. Also we should keep in

mind

> > the

> > > > > > strength

> > > > > > > > and placement of lagna lord. With so many combinations,

I

> > can

> > > > say

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > will take more than 1 year to discuss all these cases

> > Anyway,

> > > > as a

> > > > > > > > practical approach, its more than enough if we wind up

> > with

> > > > > > jupiter's

> > > > > > > > effects in various lagnas; and just mention as an

> > important

> > > > > > footnote to

> > > > > > > > be careful to look out for influences of other planets

and

> > > > > > placement of

> > > > > > > > lagna lord Finally, if Shreenadhji / Suniji / Neelamji /

> > or

> > > > any

> > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > member throw some light (along with any verses) on

> > jupiter's

> > > > > > effects in

> > > > > > > > various lagnas on one's artistic skills and when

> > influenced by

> > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > planets, I would be grateful. From experience I find it

> > > > difficult

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > estimate the artistic value of jupiter , maybe because

my

> > > > lagna

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > venus, who is enemy of Jupiter Regards, Vijay.>

> > > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna ,

> > > > > > > > > dear maligere ji ,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Jup is not alone in lagna but with a dire malefic rahu

> > ( in

> > > > > > north its

> > > > > > > > knows as guru chandal yoga ) .So rsults attributed to

> > single

> > > > jup

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > lagna how is it possible .

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > also sani and mars forming agni maruta yoga ( so the

> > houses

> > > > > > involved

> > > > > > > > can suffer ) also this yoga has no benefic aspects . ( u

> > hav

> > > > to

> > > > > > giv us

> > > > > > > > feed back ) .

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > also born in jup -merc period .then this sat dasa (

Athi

> > > > > > balavasta or

> > > > > > > > atma karaka planet ) ( tho yoga karaka ) also in marak

> > house

> > > > then

> > > > > > merc (

> > > > > > > > 64th navamsa and 22nd drekkana Lord) and then ketu in

7th

> > > > dasa (

> > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > maraka place ) ,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But i think he must hav born in good family ??

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > giv us ur feed back with full detailed analsysis .

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > any way jup in lagna is not applicable as other

> > influnces r

> > > > > > there .

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > > > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah .

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " M.A "

> > > > maligere@

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunilji,pundit ji

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > This is the details of a person who has jupiter in

> > lagna,

> > > > i

> > > > > > have not

> > > > > > > > seen any of the benefits that is been discussed here in

> > this

> > > > > > thread for

> > > > > > > > this person. I can say he has seen nothing but

> > difficulties in

> > > > > > life, his

> > > > > > > > health is also nothing to boast about.

> > > > > > > > > > " saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an

> > > > > > attractive

> > > > > > > > personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and

> > > > > > espectable

> > > > > > > > name "

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > This statement is totally opposite of what i have

> > seen in

> > > > this

> > > > > > > > persons life

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Name : Sreenivas

> > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart

> > > > > > > > > > September 9, 1958

> > > > > > > > > > Time: 10:10:00 am

> > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > > > > > Place: 76 E 05' 00 " , 13 N 00' 00 "

> > > > > > > > > > Hassan, India

> > > > > > > > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> > > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vilamba - Nija Sravana

> > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (77.75% left)

> > > > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)

> > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (59.56% left)

> > > > > > > > > > Yoga: Variyan (Ju) (89.14% left)

> > > > > > > > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (55.51% left)

> > > > > > > > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Cn)

> > > > > > > > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)

> > > > > > > > > > Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)

> > > > > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:18:07 am

> > > > > > > > > > Sunset: 6:28:06 pm

> > > > > > > > > > Janma Ghatis: 9.6618

> > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-16-55.29

> > > > > > > > > > Sidereal Time: 8:55:15

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanx n' rgds

> > > > > > > > > > Maligere

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna ,

> > > > > > > > > > dear pundit ji ,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > yes ,it says guru lagna can counter 1 crore doshas -

> > > > laksham

> > > > > > dosham

> > > > > > > > guru hanti .

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > what if its in actual experiences .for exmaple i

> > wanted to

> > > > > > know more

> > > > > > > > abt taurus lagna with guru as guru is 8th Lord and his

> > mool

> > > > > > trikon sign

> > > > > > > > also 8th house .

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > any memebrs has any charts ?? I think latha

> > mangeshwar ji

> > > > is

> > > > > > taurus

> > > > > > > > lagna .

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > , " panditarjun2004 "

> > > > > > > > panditarjun2004@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > dear vijayji

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > your mail with example charts and the lives of the

> > > > natives

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna from your database is informative

> > and

> > > > > > > > appreciated.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > lord rama has jupiter in lagna. some notable

people

> > with

> > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > lagna are as follows:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 1. bharatratna lata mangeshkar

> > > > > > > > > > > 2. erstwhile mysore maharaja krishnaraja wadiyar

IV

> > > > > > > > > > > 3. tata group founder JRD tata

> > > > > > > > > > > 4. former chief minister and actor N T Ramarao

> > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sri Aurobindo

> > > > > > > > > > > 6. kanchi sankaracharya sri vijayendra saraswati

> > > > > > > > > > > 7. former prime minister rajiv gandhi

> > > > > > > > > > > 8. emperor akbar

> > > > > > > > > > > 9. emperor aurangazeb

> > > > > > > > > > > 10. tennis star sania mirza

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > the above varied list contains emperors, rajas,

> > prime

> > > > > > minsiters,

> > > > > > > > > > > business tycoons, actors, singers, sportspersons

and

> > > > even

> > > > > > saints.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an

> > > > > > attractive

> > > > > > > > > > > personality, energetic health, long life,

> > courageous and

> > > > > > > > respectable

> > > > > > > > > > > name.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna is perceived as positive by most

if

> > > > not all

> > > > > > > > > > > astrologers. even those few who say guru spoils

> > lagna by

> > > > > > sitting

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > lagna say that his benefic aspect on 5, 7 and 9

> > houses

> > > > (one

> > > > > > > > quadrant

> > > > > > > > > > > and two trines) is auspicious for the native.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > as mentioned by tatvamasiji in one of his mails

> > earlier,

> > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > unanimously considered giving positive benfits on

> > all

> > > > the

> > > > > > three

> > > > > > > > > > > houses he aspect.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > the title " jeeva " or enlivener is granted by lord

> > shiva

> > > > to

> > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > > and naturally jupiter is a natural benefic.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > an axiom says guru in kendra negates one lakh

> > doshams.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > > > > > > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > , " Vijay "

> > > > > > > > > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Its been long time since I visited the group,

but

> > its

> > > > > > really

> > > > > > > > great

> > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > get hundreds of messages in my Inbox. I went

thru

> > > > most of

> > > > > > them

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > currently started to seriously go thru the files

> > > > section

> > > > > > of this

> > > > > > > > > > > > group, which is really very useful. Regarding

> > Jupiter

> > > > in

> > > > > > Lagna I

> > > > > > > > > > > > searched thru some of my database and found some

> > > > > > interesting

> > > > > > > > cases.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Here, I shall give the details of their birth

and

> > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > > > characteristics rather than important events in

> > their

> > > > > > life,

> > > > > > > > because

> > > > > > > > > > > > as we all know jupiter in lagna ALONE has little

> > to do

> > > > > > with the

> > > > > > > > > > > > events in their lives. For the events in their

> > lives

> > > > we

> > > > > > have to

> > > > > > > > > > > > consider all other effects, which is out of the

> > scope

> > > > of

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > present

> > > > > > > > > > > > discussion. The persons have clarified with me

> > about

> > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > > characters.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. IAS Officer (came with problems in health and

> > > > political

> > > > > > > > problems

> > > > > > > > > > > > in job):

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > June-23-1956, 11.05 am, Gudibanda, India,

77.41.E,

> > > > > > 13.40.N.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Character: I predicted he is very upright

officer

> > and

> > > > very

> > > > > > > > dynamic

> > > > > > > > > > > > because Jupiter in Leo Lagna makes one not just

> > honest

> > > > > > (which is

> > > > > > > > > > > why

> > > > > > > > > > > > he was transferred every 2 years by political

> > persons

> > > > and

> > > > > > even

> > > > > > > > got

> > > > > > > > > > > > death threats), but also very dynamic and knows

> > how to

> > > > > > control

> > > > > > > > > > > > people. He was very sweet in speech and very

> > decent

> > > > but

> > > > > > at the

> > > > > > > > same

> > > > > > > > > > > > time he seemed dominating (because Mars in 7th

> > > > house). He

> > > > > > said

> > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > feared in his circle because he is very honest

> > and he

> > > > is

> > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > scared of goondas and death threats. He was a

> > primary

> > > > > > school

> > > > > > > > > > > teacher

> > > > > > > > > > > > in a village before he became an IAS Officer. He

> > > > seems to

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely dedicated to work and as he was

> > workoholic

> > > > he

> > > > > > had

> > > > > > > > health

> > > > > > > > > > > > problems. He was a very good poet and has

> > published a

> > > > > > poetry

> > > > > > > > book

> > > > > > > > > > > > (this was my mother's prediction and he was

> > > > astonished,

> > > > > > even I

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > astonished). Also the way he speaks is really

> > > > > > astonishing, very

> > > > > > > > > > > clear

> > > > > > > > > > > > and dignified in speech and when he talks you

> > feel he

> > > > is

> > > > > > really

> > > > > > > > > > > > intelligent and a very dignified person.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. April-16-1986, 03.42, Hubli, India, student.

> > > > > > > > > > > > (parents came with problem of whether he will

> > join a

> > > > > > > > professional

> > > > > > > > > > > > course or not, which my mother predicted he

will,

> > > > seeing

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > only

> > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna but also his good sidhamsha).

But

> > > > > > character

> > > > > > > > wise,

> > > > > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > > > seems to be very soft and lively person, and

since

> > > > there

> > > > > > isnt

> > > > > > > > any

> > > > > > > > > > > > direct influence on Jupiter, we can safely say

he

> > is

> > > > very

> > > > > > > > > > > righteous,

> > > > > > > > > > > > and disciplined and respects elders. The parents

> > said

> > > > > > indeed he

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > very soft-spoken and honest kid and very much

> > > > respects all

> > > > > > > > > > > > traditions. Since he was also running Jupiter

> > dasha,

> > > > he

> > > > > > didnt

> > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > > any sort of problems in his education. Also he

> > plays

> > > > > > tabla at

> > > > > > > > > > > various

> > > > > > > > > > > > competitions.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 3. April-16-1953, 09.10, Bangalore, MLC (Member

of

> > > > > > Legislative

> > > > > > > > > > > > Council),

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > He came to ask whether he will win election

(MP),

> > but

> > > > my

> > > > > > mother

> > > > > > > > > > > said

> > > > > > > > > > > > he will not but he will still be in politics,

and

> > he

> > > > went

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > politics

> > > > > > > > > > > > thru backdoor (became MLC). He is widely known

by

> > > > public

> > > > > > to be

> > > > > > > > > > > > corrupt and goonda. But my mother said

completely

> > > > > > opposite, that

> > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > > > is very soft, honest, righteous, does charity

> > works,

> > > > and

> > > > > > sincere

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > his wife. He was shell-shocked and almost went

> > into

> > > > > > tears. He

> > > > > > > > said

> > > > > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > > > was pained at people calling him names, as he

was

> > very

> > > > > > sincere.

> > > > > > > > He

> > > > > > > > > > > > said he had earned money thru hard work in real

> > estate

> > > > > > business

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > then was stepping into politics now, but people

> > > > thought

> > > > > > he made

> > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > > > that money in politics since he was also

> > uneducated.

> > > > He

> > > > > > is not

> > > > > > > > > > > > involved in even one scandal. He respects

> > everyone and

> > > > > > also does

> > > > > > > > > > > > charity work. But, he is not educated well. But

> > since

> > > > > > Moon is in

> > > > > > > > > > > > lagna with Jupiter, he is sweet and soft in

> > speech and

> > > > > > has good

> > > > > > > > > > > mind.

> > > > > > > > > > > > But he is also very brave and courageous,

because

> > > > Mars in

> > > > > > own

> > > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > > > and Sun exalted. He is known to have dealt with

> > his

> > > > > > enemies in

> > > > > > > > real-

> > > > > > > > > > > > estate business with an iron hand. But its

> > > > interesting to

> > > > > > see

> > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > > > is not well educated.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > My Personal Conclusions about Jupiter in Lagna:

> > > > > > > > > > > > a. Jupiter in Lagna definitely makes one have

> > sweet

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > dignified

> > > > > > > > > > > > speech. He talks very sensibly and like a

learned

> > > > person.

> > > > > > > > > > > > b. Respects traditions and elders.

> > > > > > > > > > > > c. Very knowledgeable (not sure about education

> > > > though).

> > > > > > > > > > > > d. Gives some kind of artistic nature (music,

> > speech,

> > > > > > poetry,

> > > > > > > > etc),

> > > > > > > > > > > > though not like venus.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > , " Sreenadh "

> > > > > > > > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us start discussing the effects of Jupiter

> > in

> > > > > > Lagna. The

> > > > > > > > > > > > > lawyers/thread-owners for this thread are Pt.

> > Arjun

> > > > ji

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > Srinivas

> > > > > > > > > > > > ji.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > They have the full right to argue in favor of

> > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > and its

> > > > > > > > > > > power

> > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > produce identifiable results when placed in

> > Lagna.

> > > > Try

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > argue

> > > > > > > > > > > > against

> > > > > > > > > > > > > him or in support of them - validate the

results

> > > > with

> > > > > > your own

> > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the charts known to you. I will start the

> > discussion

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > minimum

> > > > > > > > > > > > inputs

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (fro Bhrigu sutra)-

> > > > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter is present in lagna the native

> > would be

> > > > > > versatile

> > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > sound or linguistic related knowledge branches

> > such

> > > > as -

> > > > > > > > > > > Vyakarana,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarka, oratory or the like. If Jupiter is in

> > Cancer

> > > > the

> > > > > > said

> > > > > > > > > > > results

> > > > > > > > > > > > > will happen for sure.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter is in Lagna - the native will

have

> > good

> > > > > > longevity

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > great luck at or after the age of 16 years.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter in Lagna is aspected by malefic

> > > > planets or

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > debilitation or with malefics in enemy house -

> > he

> > > > would

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > interested in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > doing bad deeds. His mind wavering, longevity

-

> > > > middle

> > > > > > age,

> > > > > > > > too

> > > > > > > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > > > > > > travel, egotic, no children, he will discard

his

> > > > > > relatives or

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > relatives may discard him, he will say bad

words

> > > > > > against good

> > > > > > > > > > > > people,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > sadness and sufferings will prevail.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > So, here goes our group - Jupiter Centric..

> > > > Hurah,

> > > > > > to the

> > > > > > > > > > > > thread of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Pt. Arjun ji and Srinivas ji.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

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There is no prime time. The givers of windfall gains as in Saturn, Rahu in the Kalayuga give after agreat struggle at a later age. In shive strotra the Lord himself says "Udhyamo Bhairav".

Look at the charts of Mr. DH Ambani. He became big after his "prime time" . Jamshedji Tata who had the vision of building a steel plant 100 years ago in inaccessable part of the country with a modern infrastructure had reportedly suffered a loss in earlier business.

All these are relative terms which are based on the perceptions that wealth is to be consumed and enjoyed in those activities that are supported only by youthfull body.

In an interview B.K.Birla who in his youth was not a struggler but a scion of the richest families in India, said that he never ate his Lunch as work load was so much and then he developed the habit of not eating at all !! Certainly even people with resources, in their prime cannot enjoy some basic necessities.

By the way astrologically speaking such traits are due to influence of Sani, Ketu.--- On Fri, 8/2/08, Vijayanarasimha H Pakka <hpvijaynarasimha wrote:

Vijayanarasimha H Pakka <hpvijaynarasimhaRe: Re: Jupiter (Thread owners - Pt. Arjun ji, Sreenivas ji) Date: Friday, 8 February, 2008, 8:42 PM

 

 

Dear Ananthji,Quite interesting find. But how do we in general determine which ayanamsha to use. I am confused over this.Regards,Vijay.Anantha Krishnan <anantha_krishnan_ 98 > wrote:

 

 

Dear Sheevani Ji and Sunil Ji:If I use Chari Ayanamsa, I get Gemini lagna 27 deg 42.This puts Rahu in the ninth house, which is the worst place for it to be.It also answers his problems in the Rahu mahadasa.Gets married and divorced in Jup dasa; 7L in 10 H (good)and also 7L in 6H(not so good) in NAV- answers why he gets married and later it breaks up in the same mahadasa. Also it was why he was able to get his law degree in this maha dasa..Fifth Lord Venus (in charge of progeny among other things) is in the enemy's house, afflicted by Mars- a natural and functional malefic and Ketu, -always interested in taking something away from you, which you desire. This might explain why he has no children. The current and the next maha dasa is Sa and Me. Both of them are functional benefics and are both well situated in friendly/own home. The only problem is that they are both combust, Sat more so than Me.Next dasa Me

which starts in 2012 will be better but of course by then, the prime time would have gone.....Best wishesanantha krishnansheevani147 <sheevani147@ .co. uk> wrote:

 

 

Dear Sunilji,Namaste ji,Thank you for your analysis of the chart.. My personal views are that Rahu mahadasha was the hardest period for him, lots of frustrations and health problems,, also the period he started drinking..Jupiter MD, so far has been his best period, he was happier in himself and got his Law degree..Regarding his drinking habits,, although like all alcoholics it started with drinking on a daily basis,, but later( 1990's onwards) it was more 'binge drinking' meaning he wud not touch alcohol for many months or even a year or two, then when problems arise,, he would drink heavily for all day for a week or so and ends up in hospital. His last drinking episode was in 2006.. One question, if I may? what in his horoscope denied him of children,, he loves children very much.Many thanksWarmest regardsSheevaniancient_indian_ astrology, "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > dear shivani ji .> > > > I was realy studying the chart with various options and its realay a> interesting chart which reveals almost all astro principles known to me> .> > > > Nativ has shoola yoga ( sapta grahas in 3 signs) and a spoiled gaja> kesary yoga .> > > > All most all benefic dasas to lagna has passed already and now sani s> dasa running who is debilated in amsa .> > > > rahu in 8th house and sani is debilated (also combust )as 7th Lord (> both contributed a divorse ) also 9th Lord jup in own house and vakra>

..venus the karaka for marriage afflicted heavily .MOOn is weak as shukla> prathama and nite birth .so lagna lord is also weak .> > also 2nd house and Lord and karaka ( jup ) afflicted given him bad> habbits regrds to drinking as affliction in 2nd house .> > > > also affected in earning same is with 4th house> > > > 9th Lord is strong in chart so may be reasons for dependable source of> support from father .> > > > coming periods of rahu and jupiter may giv him some work i hope tho main> period lord is weak .> > > > also sadesati going on and sani goin tru a weak rasi .also next maha of> merc also weak to deliver good results .> > > > > > 9th Lord of dharma is strong ,so praying vishnu will help him if he can> reduce

drinking habbits .> > > > regrds sunil nair .> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sheevani147"> <sheevani147@ > wrote:> >> >> > Dear Sunil ji.> >> > Namaste.> >> > Sure Sunil ji,, I am happy to share his birth details and events in> > his life..> >> > Birthdate,, 2nd October 1951,> > time 01:55 hrs ( past midnight)> > POB.. Penang, Malaysia..(Timezone +7.5 hrs GMT) u might remember!> > Lagna is cancer..> >> > He is good looking, light skin, 5'6 tall. slim built. Very> > intelligent, soft spoken, though he has a quick temper, which>

> subsides quickly too. although he appears arrogant, but is really> > very friendly and caring.. good communication skills, both spoken and> > written, good with debates, has good general knowledge.> >> > After completing his senior cambridge exams, travelled to India in> > 1968 to study medicine.. spent 2 years in punjab, 2 years in> > rajasthan, and 2 years in Bombay,, although he passed his exams but> > didnt get admission into university.. Got into wrong company,, had> > lots of problems, took to drinking alcohol regularly, sqandered money> > and had health issues..> >> > Came back to Malaysia in 1974.. Got a job in civil service and got> > married in 1981. Drinking problem continued..lost jobs in sucession> > due to his addiction.. No children, divorced in 1992..> >> > In 1984,

came to UK, studied Law and graduated with LLB in 1989.> > Started his baristership training but did not complete it. Returned> > home in 1991.> >> > Remarried in 1996 in India to a young widow with 2 young sons..> > Had a son of his own in Nov 1998 but child died during childbirth..> >> > After death of child, constant fights between husband and wife and> > finally in 2005 got separation from his wife. Moved to UK in 2007,> > got permanent right to reside in UK.. Currently living with parents,> > looking after them.> >> > No self made assests, lived off father,s wealth most of his life..> > Tried various businesses and jobs,ended in losses and whenever> > things got tough, he took to the bottle.. Although he can and did> > work hard for periods, but efforts were not consistent.. Generally

not> > been very lucky..> >> > He is a wonderful individual to know, not reliable due to drinking> > habits.. He no longer has his drinking addiction, is very> > spiritual/religious now, does a lot of community work and looks after> > his parents well.> >> > Warmest regards> > Sheevani> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sunil nair"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hare rama krishna ,> > >> > > dear shivani ji ,> > >> > >> > >> > > can u post the data of ur brother and post what ever known> > details> > > to the grp .> >

>> > >> > >> > > Let us see how they differ each other .Off cource kaal desh patra> > > principle apply here and one chart is a male and other is a feamale> > and> > > place of birth is off cource differrent .We r curious to know how> > and> > > what realy happened .> > >> > >> > >> > > I got once a similar chart ( differnt data ) ,one is a film> > producer> > > and business man from south and other is a unmarried very beutiful> > delhi> > > girl who is working as a manager in a showroom ,and wanted to know> > when> > > she will get married and the male chart i was consulted by some> > relativ> > > to know abt the success of a 2nd marriage ,after an un successful> > lov>

> > marriage and divorce .> > >> > >> > >> > > actualy i dont hav data with me ,off cource its some where in> > daily> > > entry books .> > >> > >> > >> > > so pls post the data with ur observation and analysis and> > comparisons> > > if possible .> > >> > >> > >> > > regrds sunil nair> > >> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sheevani147"> > > <sheevani147@ > wrote:> > > >> > >

> Namaste,> > > >> > > > My older brother has identical chart to your mother.. He was born> > on> > > > 2 Oct 1951.. time 01:55 hrs. When I made chart of your mother,, I> > > > thought I was seeing double..> > > >> > > > warmest regards> > > > Sheevani> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Vijayanarasimha H> > > > Pakka hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shreenadhji,> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for the reply. What you said seems very logical, but even> > > > after change in Ayanamsha as you suggested and change in year> > length,>

> > > I get the same. She had uterus operation in Sep 30, 2001 and on> > Oct> > > > 8th, she had brain haemorrage in the hospital itself, and after> > that> > > > it was hell for all of us for nearly 3 months. Life seemed to end> > for> > > > all of us, and due to Lord Krishna and Lord Narsimha's grace she> > was> > > > brought back to normal life and we all are a happy family now. My> > > > life changed after that. She was running Jup-Rahu-Venus dasha> > during> > > > that time. She was expecting something to happen to her lower> > portion> > > > of the body during operation (rahu representing legs). We were> > > > expecting something bad because during Rahu mahadasha, from 1968> > to> > > > 1986 (especially

1976-1986), life was hell for my parents (zero> > > > income, living in a small house, father working day and night and> > > > cheated by work partners, mother terribly illtreated from in-laws,> > > > had abortion, etc). 1986 we shifted to a> > > > > good house and suddenly all our problems almost vanished, father> > > > had a very good income, built 2 houses, established industry, etc> > > > (she was running jupiter dasha from then). Till 2001 she had a> > very> > > > good house life. Now, since saturn is in 3rd house, she is> > enjoying> > > > life again.> > > > > DOB: 1-Oct-1951, 02.36 am, Koppal, 76E09, 15N21.> > > > >> > > > > The point here I feel is that, even if malefic planets are bad> > > > (like

rahu), a good placed jupiter somehow brings good results to> > the> > > > native in the end. Jupiter is indeed life-saving if placed well> > and> > > > has power.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Vijay.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:> > > > > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > > I will clarify it further -> > > > > - Jupiter owns 6th house (disease) from Cancer Lagna> > > > > - Mars owns the head of the Kalapurusha, i.e. Aries> > > > > - Mars is debilitated in Lagna (cancer) which indicates> > > > head of the native> > > > > Where ever Mars be possibly this is a combination that may give> > > > disease or trouble. If there

is malefic in Cancer (especially> > Ketu)> > > > it could even give a minor heart attack in that period. Therefore> > > > considering the pointer Jupiter provides towards disease and the> > > > repeated pointers Mars provides towards head - it is clear that> > the> > > > said period should be Ju/Ma.> > > > > And that is why the guess, you must be getting it wrong, due to> > > > the use of wrong Ayanamsa and year length. It is such examples> > that> > > > helps us to verify the validity of the Ayanamsa and year length we> > > > use in a practical perspective.> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > Sreenadh> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sreenadh"> > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > > Re: Jupiter (Thread owners - Pt. Arjun ji, Sreenivas ji)> > > > >> > > > > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > > ==>> > > > > > My mother has jupiter in 9th house in pisces and rahu in 8th,> > she> > > > had brain-haemorrhage in> > > > > > jup dasha-rahu bhukthi> > > > > <==> > > > > This statement must be wrong - with the ownership of Aries (the> > > > head of Kalapurusha) , it should be Jupiter dasa-Mars antara;> > please> > > > use CHari Ayanamsa (46 min more than Lahari) and 360 day Savana> > year> > > > and let me know whether this assumption is correct or not.

Also> > > > please inform where Mars is placed in the chart.> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > Vijayanarasimha> > > > H Pakka> > > > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Jupiter (Thread owners -> > Pt.> > > > Arjun> > > > > > ji, Sreenivas ji)> > > > > > Dear Sunilji / Shreenadhji, Its very interesting (or obvious)> > how> > > > > > malefic planets affect jupiter. We can also view the chart as> > > > benefic> > > > > >

jupiter reducing the malefic effect of rahu and we get mixed> > > > results> > > > > > Anyway the more complications with jupiter, the more> > discussions> > > > we can> > > > > > have. Maybe malefic-uninfluence d and powerful jupiter is the> > one> > > > which> > > > > > truly makes the native famous, righteous, king-like, etc. I> > would> > > > rather> > > > > > say from experience that, if for example the native has some> > bad> > > > > > placements of other planets but has a good placement and> > strength> > > > of> > > > > > jupiter, he suffers sometimes but finally he emerges> > victorious.> > > > This> > > > > > should be the

approach a practical astrologer should take> > while> > > > > > predicting results, rather than jumping guns to proclaim that> > a> > > > good> > > > > > jupiter (or in lagna) will make the native king-like. My> > mother> > > > has> > > > > > jupiter in 9th house in pisces and rahu in 8th, she had> > > > > > brain-haemorrhage in jup dasha-rahu bhukthi (also jupiter was> > in> > > > ghataka> > > > > > sthana in 10th house from moon in transit), but she recovered> > > > > > fantastically and is perfectly fine (taking some regular> > tablets)> > > > now.> > > > > > So, dangers are there due to some planets but if some other> > > > planets,> > > >

> > especially jupiter is good in one's chart, then the final> > victory> > > > is to> > > > > > the native. Regarding winding up the jupiter in lagna thread,> > it> > > > > > seems a big job if we start considering the effects of> > jupiter in> > > > each> > > > > > lagna and also influence of each planet on jupiter in lagna.> > Then> > > > we get> > > > > > innumerable combinations to deal with , example: 1. Jupiter in> > > > Aries> > > > > > lagna, uninfluenced> > > > > > 2. Jupiter in Aries lagna, influenced by saturn, 3. Jupiter in> > > > Aries> > > > > > lagna influenced by sun, etc. Also we should keep in mind the> > > >

strength> > > > > > and placement of lagna lord. With so many combinations, I can> > say> > > > it> > > > > > will take more than 1 year to discuss all these cases Anyway,> > as a> > > > > > practical approach, its more than enough if we wind up with> > > > jupiter's> > > > > > effects in various lagnas; and just mention as an important> > > > footnote to> > > > > > be careful to look out for influences of other planets and> > > > placement of> > > > > > lagna lord Finally, if Shreenadhji / Suniji / Neelamji / or> > any> > > > other> > > > > > member throw some light (along with any verses) on jupiter's> > > > effects in> > > > > >

various lagnas on one's artistic skills and when influenced by> > > > other> > > > > > planets, I would be grateful. From experience I find it> > difficult> > > > to> > > > > > estimate the artistic value of jupiter , maybe because my> > lagna> > > > has> > > > > > venus, who is enemy of Jupiter Regards, Vijay.>> > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna ,> > > > > > > dear maligere ji ,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Jup is not alone in lagna but with a dire malefic rahu ( in> > > > north its> > > > > > knows as guru chandal yoga ) .So rsults attributed to single> > jup> > > > in> > > > > > lagna how is it possible .> > > >

> > >> > > > > > > also sani and mars forming agni maruta yoga ( so the houses> > > > involved> > > > > > can suffer ) also this yoga has no benefic aspects . ( u hav> > to> > > > giv us> > > > > > feed back ) .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > also born in jup -merc period .then this sat dasa ( Athi> > > > balavasta or> > > > > > atma karaka planet ) ( tho yoga karaka ) also in marak house> > then> > > > merc (> > > > > > 64th navamsa and 22nd drekkana Lord) and then ketu in 7th> > dasa (> > > > another> > > > > > maraka place ) ,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > But i think he must hav born in good family

??> > > > > > >> > > > > > > giv us ur feed back with full detailed analsysis .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > any way jup in lagna is not applicable as other influnces r> > > > there .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah .> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "M.A"> > maligere@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Sunilji,pundit ji> > > > > > > >> > > >

> > > > This is the details of a person who has jupiter in lagna,> > i> > > > have not> > > > > > seen any of the benefits that is been discussed here in this> > > > thread for> > > > > > this person. I can say he has seen nothing but difficulties in> > > > life, his> > > > > > health is also nothing to boast about.> > > > > > > > " saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an> > > > attractive> > > > > > personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and> > > > espectable> > > > > > name"> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This statement is totally opposite of what i have seen in> > this> > > > > > persons

life> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Name : Sreenivas> > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > September 9, 1958> > > > > > > > Time: 10:10:00 am> > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > Place: 76 E 05' 00", 13 N 00' 00"> > > > > > > > Hassan, India> > > > > > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vilamba - Nija Sravana> > > > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (77.75% left)> > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)> > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (59.56% left)> > > > > > > > Yoga: Variyan (Ju) (89.14% left)>

> > > > > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (55.51% left)> > > > > > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Cn)> > > > > > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> > > > > > > > Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)> > > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:18:07 am> > > > > > > > Sunset: 6:28:06 pm> > > > > > > > Janma Ghatis: 9.6618> > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-16-55.29> > > > > > > > Sidereal Time: 8:55:15> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanx n' rgds> > > > > > > > Maligere> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > > > > > > > dear pundit ji ,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > yes ,it says guru lagna can counter 1 crore doshas -> > laksham> > > > dosham> > > > > > guru hanti .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > what if its in actual experiences .for exmaple i wanted to> > > > know more> > > > > > abt taurus lagna with guru as guru is 8th Lord and his mool> > > > trikon sign> > > > > > also 8th house .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > any memebrs has any charts ?? I think latha mangeshwar ji> > is> > > > taurus> > > > > > lagna .> > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- In> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "panditarjun2004"> > > > > > panditarjun2004@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > dear vijayji> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > your mail with example charts and the lives of the> > natives> > > > with> > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna from your database is informative

and> > > > > > appreciated.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > lord rama has jupiter in lagna. some notable people with> > > > jupiter> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > lagna are as follows:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1. bharatratna lata mangeshkar> > > > > > > > > 2. erstwhile mysore maharaja krishnaraja wadiyar IV> > > > > > > > > 3. tata group founder JRD tata> > > > > > > > > 4. former chief minister and actor N T Ramarao> > > > > > > > > 5. Sri Aurobindo> > > > > > > > > 6. kanchi sankaracharya sri vijayendra saraswati> > > > > > > > > 7.

former prime minister rajiv gandhi> > > > > > > > > 8. emperor akbar> > > > > > > > > 9. emperor aurangazeb> > > > > > > > > 10. tennis star sania mirza> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > the above varied list contains emperors, rajas, prime> > > > minsiters,> > > > > > > > > business tycoons, actors, singers, sportspersons and> > even> > > > saints.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an> > > > attractive> > > > > > > > > personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and> > > > > > respectable> > > > > > > > >

name.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna is perceived as positive by most if> > not all> > > > > > > > > astrologers. even those few who say guru spoils lagna by> > > > sitting> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > lagna say that his benefic aspect on 5, 7 and 9 houses> > (one> > > > > > quadrant> > > > > > > > > and two trines) is auspicious for the native.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > as mentioned by tatvamasiji in one of his mails earlier,> > > > jupiter> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > unanimously considered giving positive benfits on all> > the>

> > > three> > > > > > > > > houses he aspect.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > the title "jeeva" or enlivener is granted by lord shiva> > to> > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > > and naturally jupiter is a natural benefic.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > an axiom says guru in kendra negates one lakh doshams.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > > > > > > > pandit arjun> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Vijay"> > > > > > > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Its been long time since I visited the group, but its> > > > really> > > > > > great> > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > get hundreds of messages in my Inbox. I went thru> > most of> > > > them> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > currently started to seriously go thru the files> > section> > > > of this> > > > > > > > > > group, which is really very

useful. Regarding Jupiter> > in> > > > Lagna I> > > > > > > > > > searched thru some of my database and found some> > > > interesting> > > > > > cases.> > > > > > > > > > Here, I shall give the details of their birth and> > their> > > > > > > > > > characteristics rather than important events in their> > > > life,> > > > > > because> > > > > > > > > > as we all know jupiter in lagna ALONE has little to do> > > > with the> > > > > > > > > > events in their lives. For the events in their lives> > we> > > > have to> > > > > > > > > > consider all other effects, which is out of the

scope> > of> > > > the> > > > > > > > > present> > > > > > > > > > discussion. The persons have clarified with me about> > their> > > > > > > > > characters.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 1. IAS Officer (came with problems in health and> > political> > > > > > problems> > > > > > > > > > in job):> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > June-23-1956, 11.05 am, Gudibanda, India, 77.41.E,> > > > 13.40.N.> > > > > > > > > > Character: I predicted he is very upright officer and> > very> > > > > > dynamic> > > > >

> > > > > because Jupiter in Leo Lagna makes one not just honest> > > > (which is> > > > > > > > > why> > > > > > > > > > he was transferred every 2 years by political persons> > and> > > > even> > > > > > got> > > > > > > > > > death threats), but also very dynamic and knows how to> > > > control> > > > > > > > > > people. He was very sweet in speech and very decent> > but> > > > at the> > > > > > same> > > > > > > > > > time he seemed dominating (because Mars in 7th> > house). He> > > > said> > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > is> > > > >

> > > > > feared in his circle because he is very honest and he> > is> > > > also> > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > scared of goondas and death threats. He was a primary> > > > school> > > > > > > > > teacher> > > > > > > > > > in a village before he became an IAS Officer. He> > seems to> > > > be> > > > > > > > > > sincerely dedicated to work and as he was workoholic> > he> > > > had> > > > > > health> > > > > > > > > > problems. He was a very good poet and has published a> > > > poetry> > > > > > book> > > > > > > > > > (this was my mother's

prediction and he was> > astonished,> > > > even I> > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > astonished). Also the way he speaks is really> > > > astonishing, very> > > > > > > > > clear> > > > > > > > > > and dignified in speech and when he talks you feel he> > is> > > > really> > > > > > > > > > intelligent and a very dignified person.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 2. April-16-1986, 03.42, Hubli, India, student.> > > > > > > > > > (parents came with problem of whether he will join a> > > > > > professional> > > > > > > > > > course or not, which my mother predicted he

will,> > seeing> > > > not> > > > > > only> > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna but also his good sidhamsha). But> > > > character> > > > > > wise,> > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > seems to be very soft and lively person, and since> > there> > > > isnt> > > > > > any> > > > > > > > > > direct influence on Jupiter, we can safely say he is> > very> > > > > > > > > righteous,> > > > > > > > > > and disciplined and respects elders. The parents said> > > > indeed he> > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > >

> > very soft-spoken and honest kid and very much> > respects all> > > > > > > > > > traditions. Since he was also running Jupiter dasha,> > he> > > > didnt> > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > any sort of problems in his education. Also he plays> > > > tabla at> > > > > > > > > various> > > > > > > > > > competitions.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 3. April-16-1953, 09.10, Bangalore, MLC (Member of> > > > Legislative> > > > > > > > > > Council),> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > He came to ask whether he will win election (MP), but>

> my> > > > mother> > > > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > > he will not but he will still be in politics, and he> > went> > > > to> > > > > > > > > politics> > > > > > > > > > thru backdoor (became MLC). He is widely known by> > public> > > > to be> > > > > > > > > > corrupt and goonda. But my mother said completely> > > > opposite, that> > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > is very soft, honest, righteous, does charity works,> > and> > > > sincere> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > his wife. He was shell-shocked and almost went into> > > > tears.

He> > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > was pained at people calling him names, as he was very> > > > sincere.> > > > > > He> > > > > > > > > > said he had earned money thru hard work in real estate> > > > business> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > then was stepping into politics now, but people> > thought> > > > he made> > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > that money in politics since he was also uneducated.> > He> > > > is not> > > > > > > > > > involved in even one scandal. He respects everyone and> > > > also does> > > >

> > > > > > charity work. But, he is not educated well. But since> > > > Moon is in> > > > > > > > > > lagna with Jupiter, he is sweet and soft in speech and> > > > has good> > > > > > > > > mind.> > > > > > > > > > But he is also very brave and courageous, because> > Mars in> > > > own> > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > > and Sun exalted. He is known to have dealt with his> > > > enemies in> > > > > > real-> > > > > > > > > > estate business with an iron hand. But its> > interesting to> > > > see> > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > he> > > > > >

> > > > is not well educated.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > My Personal Conclusions about Jupiter in Lagna:> > > > > > > > > > a. Jupiter in Lagna definitely makes one have sweet> > and> > > > > > dignified> > > > > > > > > > speech. He talks very sensibly and like a learned> > person.> > > > > > > > > > b. Respects traditions and elders.> > > > > > > > > > c. Very knowledgeable (not sure about education> > though).> > > > > > > > > > d. Gives some kind of artistic nature (music, speech,> > > > poetry,> > > > > > etc),> > > > > > > > > > though not like venus.>

> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Vijay.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sreenadh"> > > > > > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > > > Let us start discussing the effects of Jupiter in> > > > Lagna. The> > > > > > > > > > > lawyers/thread- owners for this thread are Pt. Arjun> > ji> > > > and>

> > > > > > > > Srinivas> > > > > > > > > > ji.> > > > > > > > > > > They have the full right to argue in favor of> > Jupiter> > > > and its> > > > > > > > > power> > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > produce identifiable results when placed in Lagna.> > Try> > > > to> > > > > > argue> > > > > > > > > > against> > > > > > > > > > > him or in support of them - validate the results> > with> > > > your own> > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > the charts known to you. I

will start the discussion> > > > with> > > > > > minimum> > > > > > > > > > inputs> > > > > > > > > > > (fro Bhrigu sutra)-> > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter is present in lagna the native would be> > > > versatile> > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > sound or linguistic related knowledge branches such> > as -> > > > > > > > > Vyakarana,> > > > > > > > > > > Tarka, oratory or the like. If Jupiter is in Cancer> > the> > > > said> > > > > > > > > results> > > > > > > > > > > will happen for sure.> > > > > > > >

> > > * If Jupiter is in Lagna - the native will have good> > > > longevity> > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > great luck at or after the age of 16 years.> > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter in Lagna is aspected by malefic> > planets or> > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > debilitation or with malefics in enemy house - he> > would> > > > be> > > > > > > > > > interested in> > > > > > > > > > > doing bad deeds. His mind wavering, longevity -> > middle> > > > age,> > > > > > too> > > > > > > > > much> > > > > > > > > > > travel, egotic, no

children, he will discard his> > > > relatives or> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > relatives may discard him, he will say bad words> > > > against good> > > > > > > > > > people,> > > > > > > > > > > sadness and sufferings will prevail.> > > > > > > > > > > So, here goes our group - Jupiter Centric.. > > Hurah,> > > > to the> > > > > > > > > > thread of> > > > > > > > > > > Pt. Arjun ji and Srinivas ji. > > > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >

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Dear Sheevani ji, Namaste. Thanks for the clarification. Probably, involvement of of 5th house/lord is a must for love marriage. In this case as only third lord is involved, it could just be an 'agreement' on something. I am just thinking loud here. Need to explore futher. On the age difference point, so far I have good success rate. Hope to get more data points to validate. Thanks and Regards, Krishnasheevani147 <sheevani147 wrote: Dear Sunilji,Namaste ji,Thank you for your analysis of the chart.. My personal views are that Rahu mahadasha was the hardest period for him, lots of frustrations and health problems,, also the period he started drinking..Jupiter MD, so far has been his best period, he was happier in himself and got his Law degree..Regarding his drinking habits,, although like all alcoholics it started with drinking on a daily basis,, but later( 1990's onwards) it was more 'binge drinking' meaning he wud not touch alcohol for many months or even a year or two, then when problems arise,, he would drink heavily for all day for a week or so and ends up in hospital. His last drinking episode was in 2006.. One question, if I may? what in his horoscope denied him of children,, he loves children very much.Many thanksWarmest

regardsSheevani , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > dear shivani ji .> > > > I was realy studying the chart with various options and its realay a> interesting chart which reveals almost all astro principles known to me> .> > > > Nativ has shoola yoga ( sapta grahas in 3 signs) and a spoiled gaja> kesary yoga .> > > > All most all benefic dasas to lagna has passed already and now sani s> dasa running who is debilated in amsa .> > > > rahu in 8th house and sani is debilated (also combust )as 7th Lord (> both contributed a divorse ) also 9th Lord jup in own house and

vakra> .venus the karaka for marriage afflicted heavily .MOOn is weak as shukla> prathama and nite birth .so lagna lord is also weak .> > also 2nd house and Lord and karaka ( jup ) afflicted given him bad> habbits regrds to drinking as affliction in 2nd house .> > > > also affected in earning same is with 4th house> > > > 9th Lord is strong in chart so may be reasons for dependable source of> support from father .> > > > coming periods of rahu and jupiter may giv him some work i hope tho main> period lord is weak .> > > > also sadesati going on and sani goin tru a weak rasi .also next maha of> merc also weak to deliver good results .> > > > > > 9th Lord of dharma is strong ,so praying vishnu will help him if he can> reduce drinking

habbits .> > > > regrds sunil nair .> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > > , "sheevani147"> <sheevani147@> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Sunil ji.> >> > Namaste.> >> > Sure Sunil ji,, I am happy to share his birth details and events in> > his life..> >> > Birthdate,, 2nd October 1951,> > time 01:55 hrs ( past midnight)> > POB.. Penang, Malaysia..(Timezone +7.5 hrs GMT) u might remember!> > Lagna is cancer..> >> > He is good looking, light skin, 5'6 tall. slim built. Very> > intelligent, soft spoken, though he has a quick temper, which> > subsides quickly too. although he

appears arrogant, but is really> > very friendly and caring.. good communication skills, both spoken and> > written, good with debates, has good general knowledge.> >> > After completing his senior cambridge exams, travelled to India in> > 1968 to study medicine.. spent 2 years in punjab, 2 years in> > rajasthan, and 2 years in Bombay,, although he passed his exams but> > didnt get admission into university.. Got into wrong company,, had> > lots of problems, took to drinking alcohol regularly, sqandered money> > and had health issues..> >> > Came back to Malaysia in 1974.. Got a job in civil service and got> > married in 1981. Drinking problem continued..lost jobs in sucession> > due to his addiction.. No children, divorced in 1992..> >> > In 1984, came to UK, studied Law and graduated with LLB in

1989.> > Started his baristership training but did not complete it. Returned> > home in 1991.> >> > Remarried in 1996 in India to a young widow with 2 young sons..> > Had a son of his own in Nov 1998 but child died during childbirth..> >> > After death of child, constant fights between husband and wife and> > finally in 2005 got separation from his wife. Moved to UK in 2007,> > got permanent right to reside in UK.. Currently living with parents,> > looking after them.> >> > No self made assests, lived off father,s wealth most of his life..> > Tried various businesses and jobs,ended in losses and whenever> > things got tough, he took to the bottle.. Although he can and did> > work hard for periods, but efforts were not consistent..Generally not> > been very lucky..> >> > He is

a wonderful individual to know, not reliable due to drinking> > habits.. He no longer has his drinking addiction, is very> > spiritual/religious now, does a lot of community work and looks after> > his parents well.> >> > Warmest regards> > Sheevani> >> > , "sunil nair"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hare rama krishna ,> > >> > > dear shivani ji ,> > >> > >> > >> > > can u post the data of ur brother and post what ever known> > details> > > to the grp .> > >> > >> > >> > > Let us see how they differ each other .Off

cource kaal desh patra> > > principle apply here and one chart is a male and other is a feamale> > and> > > place of birth is off cource differrent .We r curious to know how> > and> > > what realy happened .> > >> > >> > >> > > I got once a similar chart ( differnt data ) ,one is a film> > producer> > > and business man from south and other is a unmarried very beutiful> > delhi> > > girl who is working as a manager in a showroom ,and wanted to know> > when> > > she will get married and the male chart i was consulted by some> > relativ> > > to know abt the success of a 2nd marriage ,after an un successful> > lov> > > marriage and divorce .> > >> > >> > >> > > actualy i dont hav

data with me ,off cource its some where in> > daily> > > entry books .> > >> > >> > >> > > so pls post the data with ur observation and analysis and> > comparisons> > > if possible .> > >> > >> > >> > > regrds sunil nair> > >> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "sheevani147"> > > <sheevani147@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Namaste,> > > >> > > > My older brother has identical chart to your mother.. He was born> > on>

> > > 2 Oct 1951.. time 01:55 hrs. When I made chart of your mother,, I> > > > thought I was seeing double..> > > >> > > > warmest regards> > > > Sheevani> > > >> > > > , Vijayanarasimha H> > > > Pakka hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shreenadhji,> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for the reply. What you said seems very logical, but even> > > > after change in Ayanamsha as you suggested and change in year> > length,> > > > I get the same. She had uterus operation in Sep 30, 2001 and on> > Oct> > > > 8th, she had brain haemorrage in the hospital itself, and

after> > that> > > > it was hell for all of us for nearly 3 months. Life seemed to end> > for> > > > all of us, and due to Lord Krishna and Lord Narsimha's grace she> > was> > > > brought back to normal life and we all are a happy family now. My> > > > life changed after that. She was running Jup-Rahu-Venus dasha> > during> > > > that time. She was expecting something to happen to her lower> > portion> > > > of the body during operation (rahu representing legs). We were> > > > expecting something bad because during Rahu mahadasha, from 1968> > to> > > > 1986 (especially 1976-1986), life was hell for my parents (zero> > > > income, living in a small house, father working day and night and> > > > cheated by work partners, mother

terribly illtreated from in-laws,> > > > had abortion, etc). 1986 we shifted to a> > > > > good house and suddenly all our problems almost vanished, father> > > > had a very good income, built 2 houses, established industry, etc> > > > (she was running jupiter dasha from then). Till 2001 she had a> > very> > > > good house life. Now, since saturn is in 3rd house, she is> > enjoying> > > > life again.> > > > > DOB: 1-Oct-1951, 02.36 am, Koppal, 76E09, 15N21.> > > > >> > > > > The point here I feel is that, even if malefic planets are bad> > > > (like rahu), a good placed jupiter somehow brings good results to> > the> > > > native in the end. Jupiter is indeed life-saving if placed well> > and> > > > has

power.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Vijay.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:> > > > > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > > I will clarify it further -> > > > > - Jupiter owns 6th house (disease) from Cancer Lagna> > > > > - Mars owns the head of the Kalapurusha, i.e. Aries> > > > > - Mars is debilitated in Lagna (cancer) which indicates> > > > head of the native> > > > > Where ever Mars be possibly this is a combination that may give> > > > disease or trouble. If there is malefic in Cancer (especially> > Ketu)> > > > it could even give a minor heart attack in that period. Therefore> > > > considering the pointer Jupiter provides towards disease and

the> > > > repeated pointers Mars provides towards head - it is clear that> > the> > > > said period should be Ju/Ma.> > > > > And that is why the guess, you must be getting it wrong, due to> > > > the use of wrong Ayanamsa and year length. It is such examples> > that> > > > helps us to verify the validity of the Ayanamsa and year length we> > > > use in a practical perspective.> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > Sreenadh> > > > >> > > > > , "Sreenadh"> > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > > Re: Jupiter (Thread owners - Pt. Arjun ji, Sreenivas ji)> > > > >> > > > > Dear

Vijay ji,> > > > > ==>> > > > > > My mother has jupiter in 9th house in pisces and rahu in 8th,> > she> > > > had brain-haemorrhage in> > > > > > jup dasha-rahu bhukthi> > > > > <==> > > > > This statement must be wrong - with the ownership of Aries (the> > > > head of Kalapurusha), it should be Jupiter dasa-Mars antara;> > please> > > > use CHari Ayanamsa (46 min more than Lahari) and 360 day Savana> > year> > > > and let me know whether this assumption is correct or not. Also> > > > please inform where Mars is placed in the chart.> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > >> > > > > > ,> > Vijayanarasimha> > > > H Pakka> > > > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > > > Re: Re: Jupiter (Thread owners -> > Pt.> > > > Arjun> > > > > > ji, Sreenivas ji)> > > > > > Dear Sunilji / Shreenadhji, Its very interesting (or obvious)> > how> > > > > > malefic planets affect jupiter. We can also view the chart as> > > > benefic> > > > > > jupiter reducing the malefic effect of rahu and we get mixed> > > > results> > > > > > Anyway the more complications with jupiter, the more> > discussions> > > > we can> > > > > >

have. Maybe malefic-uninfluenced and powerful jupiter is the> > one> > > > which> > > > > > truly makes the native famous, righteous, king-like, etc. I> > would> > > > rather> > > > > > say from experience that, if for example the native has some> > bad> > > > > > placements of other planets but has a good placement and> > strength> > > > of> > > > > > jupiter, he suffers sometimes but finally he emerges> > victorious.> > > > This> > > > > > should be the approach a practical astrologer should take> > while> > > > > > predicting results, rather than jumping guns to proclaim that> > a> > > > good> > > > > > jupiter (or in lagna) will make the native

king-like. My> > mother> > > > has> > > > > > jupiter in 9th house in pisces and rahu in 8th, she had> > > > > > brain-haemorrhage in jup dasha-rahu bhukthi (also jupiter was> > in> > > > ghataka> > > > > > sthana in 10th house from moon in transit), but she recovered> > > > > > fantastically and is perfectly fine (taking some regular> > tablets)> > > > now.> > > > > > So, dangers are there due to some planets but if some other> > > > planets,> > > > > > especially jupiter is good in one's chart, then the final> > victory> > > > is to> > > > > > the native. Regarding winding up the jupiter in lagna thread,> > it> > > > > > seems a big job if we start

considering the effects of> > jupiter in> > > > each> > > > > > lagna and also influence of each planet on jupiter in lagna.> > Then> > > > we get> > > > > > innumerable combinations to deal with , example: 1. Jupiter in> > > > Aries> > > > > > lagna, uninfluenced> > > > > > 2. Jupiter in Aries lagna, influenced by saturn, 3. Jupiter in> > > > Aries> > > > > > lagna influenced by sun, etc. Also we should keep in mind the> > > > strength> > > > > > and placement of lagna lord. With so many combinations, I can> > say> > > > it> > > > > > will take more than 1 year to discuss all these cases Anyway,> > as a> > > > > > practical approach, its more

than enough if we wind up with> > > > jupiter's> > > > > > effects in various lagnas; and just mention as an important> > > > footnote to> > > > > > be careful to look out for influences of other planets and> > > > placement of> > > > > > lagna lord Finally, if Shreenadhji / Suniji / Neelamji / or> > any> > > > other> > > > > > member throw some light (along with any verses) on jupiter's> > > > effects in> > > > > > various lagnas on one's artistic skills and when influenced by> > > > other> > > > > > planets, I would be grateful. From experience I find it> > difficult> > > > to> > > > > > estimate the artistic value of jupiter , maybe because my> > lagna>

> > > has> > > > > > venus, who is enemy of Jupiter Regards, Vijay.>> > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna ,> > > > > > > dear maligere ji ,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Jup is not alone in lagna but with a dire malefic rahu ( in> > > > north its> > > > > > knows as guru chandal yoga ) .So rsults attributed to single> > jup> > > > in> > > > > > lagna how is it possible .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > also sani and mars forming agni maruta yoga ( so the houses> > > > involved> > > > > > can suffer ) also this yoga has no benefic aspects . ( u hav> > to> > > > giv us> > > > > > feed back ) .> > > > > >

>> > > > > > > also born in jup -merc period .then this sat dasa ( Athi> > > > balavasta or> > > > > > atma karaka planet ) ( tho yoga karaka ) also in marak house> > then> > > > merc (> > > > > > 64th navamsa and 22nd drekkana Lord) and then ketu in 7th> > dasa (> > > > another> > > > > > maraka place ) ,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > But i think he must hav born in good family ??> > > > > > >> > > > > > > giv us ur feed back with full detailed analsysis .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > any way jup in lagna is not applicable as other influnces r> > > > there .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regrds sunil

nair> > > > > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah .> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , "M.A"> > maligere@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Sunilji,pundit ji> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is the details of a person who has jupiter in lagna,> > i> > > > have not> > > > > > seen any of the benefits that is been discussed here in this> > > > thread for> > > > > > this person. I can say he has seen nothing but difficulties in> > > > life, his> > > > > >

health is also nothing to boast about.> > > > > > > > " saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an> > > > attractive> > > > > > personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and> > > > espectable> > > > > > name"> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This statement is totally opposite of what i have seen in> > this> > > > > > persons life> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Name : Sreenivas> > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > September 9, 1958> > > > > > > > Time: 10:10:00 am> > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > Place: 76 E 05' 00", 13 N 00'

00"> > > > > > > > Hassan, India> > > > > > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vilamba - Nija Sravana> > > > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (77.75% left)> > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)> > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (59.56% left)> > > > > > > > Yoga: Variyan (Ju) (89.14% left)> > > > > > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (55.51% left)> > > > > > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Cn)> > > > > > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> > > > > > > > Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)> > > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:18:07 am> > > > > > > > Sunset: 6:28:06 pm> > > >

> > > > Janma Ghatis: 9.6618> > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-16-55.29> > > > > > > > Sidereal Time: 8:55:15> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanx n' rgds> > > > > > > > Maligere> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > > > > > > > dear pundit ji ,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > yes ,it says guru lagna can counter 1 crore doshas -> > laksham> > > > dosham> > > > > > guru hanti .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > what if its in actual experiences .for exmaple i

wanted to> > > > know more> > > > > > abt taurus lagna with guru as guru is 8th Lord and his mool> > > > trikon sign> > > > > > also 8th house .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > any memebrs has any charts ?? I think latha mangeshwar ji> > is> > > > taurus> > > > > > lagna .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- In> > > > , "panditarjun2004">

> > > > > panditarjun2004@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > dear vijayji> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > your mail with example charts and the lives of the> > natives> > > > with> > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna from your database is informative and> > > > > > appreciated.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > lord rama has jupiter in lagna. some notable people with> > > > jupiter> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > lagna are as follows:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1. bharatratna lata mangeshkar> > > > > > > > > 2.

erstwhile mysore maharaja krishnaraja wadiyar IV> > > > > > > > > 3. tata group founder JRD tata> > > > > > > > > 4. former chief minister and actor N T Ramarao> > > > > > > > > 5. Sri Aurobindo> > > > > > > > > 6. kanchi sankaracharya sri vijayendra saraswati> > > > > > > > > 7. former prime minister rajiv gandhi> > > > > > > > > 8. emperor akbar> > > > > > > > > 9. emperor aurangazeb> > > > > > > > > 10. tennis star sania mirza> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > the above varied list contains emperors, rajas, prime> > > > minsiters,> > > > > > > > > business tycoons, actors, singers, sportspersons and> >

even> > > > saints.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an> > > > attractive> > > > > > > > > personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and> > > > > > respectable> > > > > > > > > name.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna is perceived as positive by most if> > not all> > > > > > > > > astrologers. even those few who say guru spoils lagna by> > > > sitting> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > lagna say that his benefic aspect on 5, 7 and 9 houses> > (one> > > > > > quadrant> > > > > > > > >

and two trines) is auspicious for the native.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > as mentioned by tatvamasiji in one of his mails earlier,> > > > jupiter> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > unanimously considered giving positive benfits on all> > the> > > > three> > > > > > > > > houses he aspect.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > the title "jeeva" or enlivener is granted by lord shiva> > to> > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > > and naturally jupiter is a natural benefic.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > an axiom says guru in kendra negates one lakh doshams.> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > > > > > > > pandit arjun> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > , "Vijay"> > > > > > > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Its been long time since I visited the group, but its> > > > really> > > > > > great> > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > get hundreds of messages in my

Inbox. I went thru> > most of> > > > them> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > currently started to seriously go thru the files> > section> > > > of this> > > > > > > > > > group, which is really very useful. Regarding Jupiter> > in> > > > Lagna I> > > > > > > > > > searched thru some of my database and found some> > > > interesting> > > > > > cases.> > > > > > > > > > Here, I shall give the details of their birth and> > their> > > > > > > > > > characteristics rather than important events in their> > > > life,> > > > > > because> > > > > > > > > > as we all know jupiter in lagna ALONE

has little to do> > > > with the> > > > > > > > > > events in their lives. For the events in their lives> > we> > > > have to> > > > > > > > > > consider all other effects, which is out of the scope> > of> > > > the> > > > > > > > > present> > > > > > > > > > discussion. The persons have clarified with me about> > their> > > > > > > > > characters.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 1. IAS Officer (came with problems in health and> > political> > > > > > problems> > > > > > > > > > in job):> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > June-23-1956, 11.05 am, Gudibanda, India, 77.41.E,> > > > 13.40.N.> > > > > > > > > > Character: I predicted he is very upright officer and> > very> > > > > > dynamic> > > > > > > > > > because Jupiter in Leo Lagna makes one not just honest> > > > (which is> > > > > > > > > why> > > > > > > > > > he was transferred every 2 years by political persons> > and> > > > even> > > > > > got> > > > > > > > > > death threats), but also very dynamic and knows how to> > > > control> > > > > > > > > > people. He was very sweet in speech and very decent> > but> > > > at the> > > > > >

same> > > > > > > > > > time he seemed dominating (because Mars in 7th> > house). He> > > > said> > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > feared in his circle because he is very honest and he> > is> > > > also> > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > scared of goondas and death threats. He was a primary> > > > school> > > > > > > > > teacher> > > > > > > > > > in a village before he became an IAS Officer. He> > seems to> > > > be> > > > > > > > > > sincerely dedicated to work and as he was workoholic> > he> > > > had> > > > > > health>

> > > > > > > > > problems. He was a very good poet and has published a> > > > poetry> > > > > > book> > > > > > > > > > (this was my mother's prediction and he was> > astonished,> > > > even I> > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > astonished). Also the way he speaks is really> > > > astonishing, very> > > > > > > > > clear> > > > > > > > > > and dignified in speech and when he talks you feel he> > is> > > > really> > > > > > > > > > intelligent and a very dignified person.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 2. April-16-1986, 03.42, Hubli, India, student.> > > > >

> > > > > (parents came with problem of whether he will join a> > > > > > professional> > > > > > > > > > course or not, which my mother predicted he will,> > seeing> > > > not> > > > > > only> > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna but also his good sidhamsha). But> > > > character> > > > > > wise,> > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > seems to be very soft and lively person, and since> > there> > > > isnt> > > > > > any> > > > > > > > > > direct influence on Jupiter, we can safely say he is> > very> > > > > > > > > righteous,> > > > > > > > > > and disciplined

and respects elders. The parents said> > > > indeed he> > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > very soft-spoken and honest kid and very much> > respects all> > > > > > > > > > traditions. Since he was also running Jupiter dasha,> > he> > > > didnt> > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > any sort of problems in his education. Also he plays> > > > tabla at> > > > > > > > > various> > > > > > > > > > competitions.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 3. April-16-1953, 09.10, Bangalore, MLC (Member of> > > > Legislative> > > > > > > > >

> Council),> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > He came to ask whether he will win election (MP), but> > my> > > > mother> > > > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > > he will not but he will still be in politics, and he> > went> > > > to> > > > > > > > > politics> > > > > > > > > > thru backdoor (became MLC). He is widely known by> > public> > > > to be> > > > > > > > > > corrupt and goonda. But my mother said completely> > > > opposite, that> > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > is very soft, honest, righteous, does charity works,> > and> > > > sincere>

> > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > his wife. He was shell-shocked and almost went into> > > > tears. He> > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > was pained at people calling him names, as he was very> > > > sincere.> > > > > > He> > > > > > > > > > said he had earned money thru hard work in real estate> > > > business> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > then was stepping into politics now, but people> > thought> > > > he made> > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > that money in politics since he was also uneducated.> > He> > > > is not> > >

> > > > > > > involved in even one scandal. He respects everyone and> > > > also does> > > > > > > > > > charity work. But, he is not educated well. But since> > > > Moon is in> > > > > > > > > > lagna with Jupiter, he is sweet and soft in speech and> > > > has good> > > > > > > > > mind.> > > > > > > > > > But he is also very brave and courageous, because> > Mars in> > > > own> > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > > and Sun exalted. He is known to have dealt with his> > > > enemies in> > > > > > real-> > > > > > > > > > estate business with an iron hand. But its> > interesting to> > >

> see> > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > is not well educated.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > My Personal Conclusions about Jupiter in Lagna:> > > > > > > > > > a. Jupiter in Lagna definitely makes one have sweet> > and> > > > > > dignified> > > > > > > > > > speech. He talks very sensibly and like a learned> > person.> > > > > > > > > > b. Respects traditions and elders.> > > > > > > > > > c. Very knowledgeable (not sure about education> > though).> > > > > > > > > > d. Gives some kind of artistic nature (music, speech,> > > > poetry,> >

> > > > etc),> > > > > > > > > > though not like venus.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Vijay.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > , "Sreenadh"> > > > > > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > > > Let us start discussing the effects of Jupiter in> > > > Lagna. The> > > > > > > > > > > lawyers/thread-owners for this

thread are Pt. Arjun> > ji> > > > and> > > > > > > > > Srinivas> > > > > > > > > > ji.> > > > > > > > > > > They have the full right to argue in favor of> > Jupiter> > > > and its> > > > > > > > > power> > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > produce identifiable results when placed in Lagna.> > Try> > > > to> > > > > > argue> > > > > > > > > > against> > > > > > > > > > > him or in support of them - validate the results> > with> > > > your own> > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > >

> > > > > the charts known to you. I will start the discussion> > > > with> > > > > > minimum> > > > > > > > > > inputs> > > > > > > > > > > (fro Bhrigu sutra)-> > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter is present in lagna the native would be> > > > versatile> > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > sound or linguistic related knowledge branches such> > as -> > > > > > > > > Vyakarana,> > > > > > > > > > > Tarka, oratory or the like. If Jupiter is in Cancer> > the> > > > said> > > > > > > > > results> > > > > > > > > > > will happen for sure.> >

> > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter is in Lagna - the native will have good> > > > longevity> > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > great luck at or after the age of 16 years.> > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter in Lagna is aspected by malefic> > planets or> > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > debilitation or with malefics in enemy house - he> > would> > > > be> > > > > > > > > > interested in> > > > > > > > > > > doing bad deeds. His mind wavering, longevity -> > middle> > > > age,> > > > > > too> > > > > > > > > much> > > > > > > > > > > travel,

egotic, no children, he will discard his> > > > relatives or> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > relatives may discard him, he will say bad words> > > > against good> > > > > > > > > > people,> > > > > > > > > > > sadness and sufferings will prevail.> > > > > > > > > > > So, here goes our group - Jupiter Centric.. > > Hurah,> > > > to the> > > > > > > > > > thread of> > > > > > > > > > > Pt. Arjun ji and Srinivas ji. > > > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>

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Dear Vijay ji, You have a very valid point when you say "... look for the degrees between the planets and lagna.." This is very important to judge the effect of a planet on the bhava it occupies. I have not yet looked at your mother's chart. But, I think it will be a rewarding experience to study these two charts in detail, to look at the lagna degree with respect to degrees of other planets, also to look at the vargas. I will definitely take it up for my own learning. Thanks for sharing the details about your mother. Regards, KrishnaVijayanarasimha H Pakka <hpvijaynarasimha wrote: Dear Sunilji, Krishnamurthyji, Sheevaniji,Nice to hear that sheevaniji's brother has similar chart to that of my mother's. But I am sorry to hear what he had to go thru in his life, I wish him all the best for his future. I went thru all the details given by sheevaniji, but it would be interesting to know that my mother had a completely different life except for some similarities:Differences:1. She is very pious, and very soft right from childhood till now. No habits of drinking, etc. She hates people who have such habits. She is extremely emotional and sensitive. She is extremely patient and never gets angry, even at big blunders committed by people.2. Her education was fantastic. Right from childhood, she was called the superkid with respect to studies. She stood first in languages,

maths, science, etc. She stood first in the university in BSc, Msc (Maths). (Till now, her record marks in mathematics hasnt been beaten). Her memory power is excellent.3. She married at 22 yrs and it was an arranged marriage. She is completely devoted to my father, and inspite of inlaws terribly illtreating her, she has solidly stood by my father through out. Infact, she wont allow anyone to abuse her inlaws. She is very spiritual.4. Except for the period between 1976 - 1986 (Rahu Dasha), her life is wonderful. She is very happy with family and no financial troubles or family troubles. 5. She is now running Saturn Dasha, and she is constantly travelling abroad (twice every year) and enjoying life with my father and grandchildren. She has become over spiritual and detached from material life. Similarities:1. She has very good communication skills.2. The age difference between my parents is almost 11 years.3. She too tried her hand at work

(teaching at engg college for 1 year), but had to leave it for children's future, hence no success in career, i.e., no income from job.Looking at the planetary positions between sheevaniji's brother's chart and my mother's chart, its very difficult to immediately come to conclusions based solely on main chart. Looking at divisional charts is very important, as all yogas are applicable to both natives, but still both have almost extreme lives. Also another point to look in main charts are the degrees between various planets and between planets and lagna. (For example, if distance between lagna and a planet, especially dasha lord is 60 degrees its very good in that dasha). Anyway, nice examples to ponder on.Regards,Vijay.Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > wrote: Dear Sheevani ji, That was a good detailed portrait of your brother. I would like to share my observations: 1. Though jupiter is in its own house in Rasi (that too in the 9th!) and in a friendly house in Navamsha, it would be mostly mixed results because of the following negatives: - Jup is retrograde - Jup is in the nakshatra of Saturn - Jup is aspected by malefics Saturn and Mars, Sun - One consolation is that Mars is the yogakaraka among the above malefics - Gajakesari Yoga does not work here as Jupiter is retrograde and Moon is combust 2. Because of the above reasons though Jupiter is aspecting Lagna, the native seem to have lived a turbulant life, even during Jupiter MD. 3. Karaka of Mind Moon, who is also the lagna lord, is combust. Hence, the native might have got into

drinking problem as his 2nd house falls into RKA axis. Note that the problem has started in Rau MD. The problem has either started in Rahu-Ketu period of Rahu-Venus period. Both Venus and Ketu occupy 2nd house. 4. It is interesting to note that both Sat and Moon occupy UL. Rahu is disposited by Saturn. & th lord Saturn is with 3rd lord Mercury in the 3rd house. It clearly indicates a possibility of love marraige and a good possibility of the spouse having a big age difference. What was the age difference with his second wife? That appears to be a love marriage as it took place during Sat-Mer period. Please clarify. 5. He seems to have a poor career. Notice that in D10 Ra/Ke are in kendras to lagna 6. His 10th lord from Rasi is in Venus Navamsha. Venus is with Mars in Rasi aspecting Jupiter. That might explain his studying Law and completing it in Jup-Mars period! Note that in

D24 Jup and Mars are in trines to each other. Regards, Krishnasheevani147 <sheevani147 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Sunil ji.Namaste.Sure Sunil ji,, I am happy to share his birth details and events in his life..Birthdate,, 2nd October 1951,time 01:55 hrs ( past midnight)POB.. Penang, Malaysia..(Timezone +7.5 hrs GMT) u might remember!Lagna is cancer..He is good looking, light skin, 5'6 tall. slim built. Very intelligent, soft spoken, though he has a quick temper, which subsides quickly too. although he appears arrogant, but is really very friendly and caring.. good communication skills, both spoken and written, good with debates, has good general knowledge.After completing his senior cambridge exams, travelled to India

in 1968 to study medicine.. spent 2 years in punjab, 2 years in rajasthan, and 2 years in Bombay,, although he passed his exams but didnt get admission into university.. Got into wrong company,, had lots of problems, took to drinking alcohol regularly, sqandered money and had health issues..Came back to Malaysia in 1974.. Got a job in civil service and got married in 1981. Drinking problem continued..lost jobs in sucession due to his addiction.. No children, divorced in 1992..In 1984, came to UK, studied Law and graduated with LLB in 1989. Started his baristership training but did not complete it. Returned home in 1991.Remarried in 1996 in India to a young widow with 2 young sons..Had a son of his own in Nov 1998 but child died during childbirth..After death of child, constant fights between husband and wife and finally in 2005 got separation from his wife. Moved to UK in 2007, got permanent

right to reside in UK.. Currently living with parents, looking after them.No self made assests, lived off father,s wealth most of his life..Tried various businesses and jobs,ended in losses and whenever things got tough, he took to the bottle.. Although he can and did work hard for periods, but efforts were not consistent..Generally not been very lucky..He is a wonderful individual to know, not reliable due to drinking habits.. He no longer has his drinking addiction, is very spiritual/religious now, does a lot of community work and looks after his parents well.Warmest regardsSheevani , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > dear shivani ji ,> > > >

can u post the data of ur brother and post what ever known details> to the grp .> > > > Let us see how they differ each other .Off cource kaal desh patra> principle apply here and one chart is a male and other is a feamale and> place of birth is off cource differrent .We r curious to know how and> what realy happened .> > > > I got once a similar chart ( differnt data ) ,one is a film producer> and business man from south and other is a unmarried very beutiful delhi> girl who is working as a manager in a showroom ,and wanted to know when> she will get married and the male chart i was consulted by some relativ> to know abt the success of a 2nd marriage ,after an un successful lov> marriage and divorce .> > > > actualy i dont hav data with me ,off cource its some where in daily> entry

books .> > > > so pls post the data with ur observation and analysis and comparisons> if possible .> > > > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > > > > , "sheevani147"> <sheevani147@> wrote:> >> > Namaste,> >> > My older brother has identical chart to your mother.. He was born on> > 2 Oct 1951.. time 01:55 hrs. When I made chart of your mother,, I> > thought I was seeing double..> >> > warmest regards> > Sheevani> >> > ,

Vijayanarasimha H> > Pakka hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Shreenadhji,> > >> > > Thanks for the reply. What you said seems very logical, but even> > after change in Ayanamsha as you suggested and change in year length,> > I get the same. She had uterus operation in Sep 30, 2001 and on Oct> > 8th, she had brain haemorrage in the hospital itself, and after that> > it was hell for all of us for nearly 3 months. Life seemed to end for> > all of us, and due to Lord Krishna and Lord Narsimha's grace she was> > brought back to normal life and we all are a happy family now. My> > life changed after that. She was running Jup-Rahu-Venus dasha during> > that time. She was expecting something to happen to her lower portion> > of the body during operation (rahu representing legs). We were>

> expecting something bad because during Rahu mahadasha, from 1968 to> > 1986 (especially 1976-1986), life was hell for my parents (zero> > income, living in a small house, father working day and night and> > cheated by work partners, mother terribly illtreated from in-laws,> > had abortion, etc). 1986 we shifted to a> > > good house and suddenly all our problems almost vanished, father> > had a very good income, built 2 houses, established industry, etc> > (she was running jupiter dasha from then). Till 2001 she had a very> > good house life. Now, since saturn is in 3rd house, she is enjoying> > life again.> > > DOB: 1-Oct-1951, 02.36 am, Koppal, 76E09, 15N21.> > >> > > The point here I feel is that, even if malefic planets are bad> > (like rahu), a good placed jupiter somehow brings good results to the>

> native in the end. Jupiter is indeed life-saving if placed well and> > has power.> > >> > > Regards,> > > Vijay.> > >> > >> > > Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:> > > Dear Vijay ji,> > > I will clarify it further -> > > - Jupiter owns 6th house (disease) from Cancer Lagna> > > - Mars owns the head of the Kalapurusha, i.e. Aries> > > - Mars is debilitated in Lagna (cancer) which indicates> > head of the native> > > Where ever Mars be possibly this is a combination that may give> > disease or trouble. If there is malefic in Cancer (especially Ketu)> > it could even give a minor heart attack in that period. Therefore> > considering the pointer Jupiter provides towards disease and the> > repeated pointers Mars provides towards head - it is clear that

the> > said period should be Ju/Ma.> > > And that is why the guess, you must be getting it wrong, due to> > the use of wrong Ayanamsa and year length. It is such examples that> > helps us to verify the validity of the Ayanamsa and year length we> > use in a practical perspective.> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > , "Sreenadh"> > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > Re: Jupiter (Thread owners - Pt. Arjun ji, Sreenivas ji)> > >> > > Dear Vijay ji,> > > ==>> > > > My mother has jupiter in 9th house in pisces and rahu in 8th, she> > had brain-haemorrhage in> > > > jup dasha-rahu bhukthi> > > <==> > >

This statement must be wrong - with the ownership of Aries (the> > head of Kalapurusha), it should be Jupiter dasa-Mars antara; please> > use CHari Ayanamsa (46 min more than Lahari) and 360 day Savana year> > and let me know whether this assumption is correct or not. Also> > please inform where Mars is placed in the chart.> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > > >> > > > , Vijayanarasimha> > H Pakka> > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > Re: Re: Jupiter (Thread owners - Pt.> > Arjun> > > > ji, Sreenivas ji)> > > > Dear Sunilji / Shreenadhji, Its very interesting (or obvious) how> > > > malefic

planets affect jupiter. We can also view the chart as> > benefic> > > > jupiter reducing the malefic effect of rahu and we get mixed> > results> > > > Anyway the more complications with jupiter, the more discussions> > we can> > > > have. Maybe malefic-uninfluenced and powerful jupiter is the one> > which> > > > truly makes the native famous, righteous, king-like, etc. I would> > rather> > > > say from experience that, if for example the native has some bad> > > > placements of other planets but has a good placement and strength> > of> > > > jupiter, he suffers sometimes but finally he emerges victorious.> > This> > > > should be the approach a practical astrologer should take while> > > > predicting results, rather than jumping

guns to proclaim that a> > good> > > > jupiter (or in lagna) will make the native king-like. My mother> > has> > > > jupiter in 9th house in pisces and rahu in 8th, she had> > > > brain-haemorrhage in jup dasha-rahu bhukthi (also jupiter was in> > ghataka> > > > sthana in 10th house from moon in transit), but she recovered> > > > fantastically and is perfectly fine (taking some regular tablets)> > now.> > > > So, dangers are there due to some planets but if some other> > planets,> > > > especially jupiter is good in one's chart, then the final victory> > is to> > > > the native. Regarding winding up the jupiter in lagna thread, it> > > > seems a big job if we start considering the effects of jupiter in> > each> > > >

lagna and also influence of each planet on jupiter in lagna. Then> > we get> > > > innumerable combinations to deal with , example: 1. Jupiter in> > Aries> > > > lagna, uninfluenced> > > > 2. Jupiter in Aries lagna, influenced by saturn, 3. Jupiter in> > Aries> > > > lagna influenced by sun, etc. Also we should keep in mind the> > strength> > > > and placement of lagna lord. With so many combinations, I can say> > it> > > > will take more than 1 year to discuss all these cases Anyway, as a> > > > practical approach, its more than enough if we wind up with> > jupiter's> > > > effects in various lagnas; and just mention as an important> > footnote to> > > > be careful to look out for influences of other planets and> > placement of> >

> > lagna lord Finally, if Shreenadhji / Suniji / Neelamji / or any> > other> > > > member throw some light (along with any verses) on jupiter's> > effects in> > > > various lagnas on one's artistic skills and when influenced by> > other> > > > planets, I would be grateful. From experience I find it difficult> > to> > > > estimate the artistic value of jupiter , maybe because my lagna> > has> > > > venus, who is enemy of Jupiter Regards, Vijay.>> > > > > Hare ramakrishna ,> > > > > dear maligere ji ,> > > > >> > > > > Jup is not alone in lagna but with a dire malefic rahu ( in> > north its> > > > knows as guru chandal yoga ) .So rsults attributed to single jup> > in> > > > lagna how is it

possible .> > > > >> > > > > also sani and mars forming agni maruta yoga ( so the houses> > involved> > > > can suffer ) also this yoga has no benefic aspects . ( u hav to> > giv us> > > > feed back ) .> > > > >> > > > > also born in jup -merc period .then this sat dasa ( Athi> > balavasta or> > > > atma karaka planet ) ( tho yoga karaka ) also in marak house then> > merc (> > > > 64th navamsa and 22nd drekkana Lord) and then ketu in 7th dasa (> > another> > > > maraka place ) ,> > > > >> > > > > But i think he must hav born in good family ??> > > > >> > > > > giv us ur feed back with full detailed analsysis .> > > > >> > > > > any way jup in

lagna is not applicable as other influnces r> > there .> > > > >> > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "M.A" maligere@> > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sunilji,pundit ji> > > > > >> > > > > > This is the details of a person who has jupiter in lagna, i> > have not> > > > seen any of the benefits that is been discussed here in this> > thread for> > > > this person. I can say he has seen nothing but difficulties in> > life, his> > > > health is also nothing to boast about.>

> > > > > " saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an> > attractive> > > > personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and> > espectable> > > > name"> > > > > >> > > > > > This statement is totally opposite of what i have seen in this> > > > persons life> > > > > >> > > > > > Name : Sreenivas> > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > September 9, 1958> > > > > > Time: 10:10:00 am> > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > Place: 76 E 05' 00", 13 N 00' 00"> > > > > > Hassan, India> > > > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vilamba - Nija Sravana> > > > > > Tithi:

Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (77.75% left)> > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)> > > > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (59.56% left)> > > > > > Yoga: Variyan (Ju) (89.14% left)> > > > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (55.51% left)> > > > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Cn)> > > > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> > > > > > Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)> > > > > > Sunrise: 6:18:07 am> > > > > > Sunset: 6:28:06 pm> > > > > > Janma Ghatis: 9.6618> > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-16-55.29> > > > > > Sidereal Time: 8:55:15> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanx n' rgds> > > > > > Maligere> > > > > >> > > > > > sunil nair

astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > > > > > dear pundit ji ,> > > > > >> > > > > > yes ,it says guru lagna can counter 1 crore doshas -laksham> > dosham> > > > guru hanti .> > > > > >> > > > > > what if its in actual experiences .for exmaple i wanted to> > know more> > > > abt taurus lagna with guru as guru is 8th Lord and his mool> > trikon sign> > > > also 8th house .> > > > > >> > > > > > any memebrs has any charts ?? I think latha mangeshwar ji is> > taurus> > > > lagna .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > om shreem

mahalaxmai namah> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In> > , "panditarjun2004"> > > > panditarjun2004@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > dear vijayji> > > > > > >> > > > > > > your mail with example charts and the lives of the natives> > with> > > > > > > jupiter in lagna from your database is informative and> > > > appreciated.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > lord rama has jupiter in lagna. some notable people with> > jupiter> > > > in> > > > > > > lagna are as follows:> > > > > > >> >

> > > > > 1. bharatratna lata mangeshkar> > > > > > > 2. erstwhile mysore maharaja krishnaraja wadiyar IV> > > > > > > 3. tata group founder JRD tata> > > > > > > 4. former chief minister and actor N T Ramarao> > > > > > > 5. Sri Aurobindo> > > > > > > 6. kanchi sankaracharya sri vijayendra saraswati> > > > > > > 7. former prime minister rajiv gandhi> > > > > > > 8. emperor akbar> > > > > > > 9. emperor aurangazeb> > > > > > > 10. tennis star sania mirza> > > > > > >> > > > > > > the above varied list contains emperors, rajas, prime> > minsiters,> > > > > > > business tycoons, actors, singers, sportspersons and even> > saints.> >

> > > > >> > > > > > > saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an> > attractive> > > > > > > personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and> > > > respectable> > > > > > > name.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > jupiter in lagna is perceived as positive by most if not all> > > > > > > astrologers. even those few who say guru spoils lagna by> > sitting> > > > in> > > > > > > lagna say that his benefic aspect on 5, 7 and 9 houses (one> > > > quadrant> > > > > > > and two trines) is auspicious for the native.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > as mentioned by tatvamasiji in one of his mails earlier,> > jupiter> > >

> is> > > > > > > unanimously considered giving positive benfits on all the> > three> > > > > > > houses he aspect.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > the title "jeeva" or enlivener is granted by lord shiva to> > jupiter> > > > > > > and naturally jupiter is a natural benefic.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > an axiom says guru in kendra negates one lakh doshams.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > > > > > pandit arjun> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , "Vijay"> > > >

> > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Its been long time since I visited the group, but its> > really> > > > great> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > get hundreds of messages in my Inbox. I went thru most of> > them> > > > and> > > > > > > > currently started to seriously go thru the files section> > of this> > > > > > > > group, which is really very useful. Regarding Jupiter in> > Lagna I> > > > > > > > searched thru some of my database and found some> > interesting> > > > cases.> > > > > > > > Here, I shall give the details

of their birth and their> > > > > > > > characteristics rather than important events in their> > life,> > > > because> > > > > > > > as we all know jupiter in lagna ALONE has little to do> > with the> > > > > > > > events in their lives. For the events in their lives we> > have to> > > > > > > > consider all other effects, which is out of the scope of> > the> > > > > > > present> > > > > > > > discussion. The persons have clarified with me about their> > > > > > > characters.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 1. IAS Officer (came with problems in health and political> > > > problems> > > > > > > > in job):>

> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > June-23-1956, 11.05 am, Gudibanda, India, 77.41.E,> > 13.40.N.> > > > > > > > Character: I predicted he is very upright officer and very> > > > dynamic> > > > > > > > because Jupiter in Leo Lagna makes one not just honest> > (which is> > > > > > > why> > > > > > > > he was transferred every 2 years by political persons and> > even> > > > got> > > > > > > > death threats), but also very dynamic and knows how to> > control> > > > > > > > people. He was very sweet in speech and very decent but> > at the> > > > same> > > > > > > > time he seemed dominating (because Mars in 7th house). He>

> said> > > > he> > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > feared in his circle because he is very honest and he is> > also> > > > not> > > > > > > > scared of goondas and death threats. He was a primary> > school> > > > > > > teacher> > > > > > > > in a village before he became an IAS Officer. He seems to> > be> > > > > > > > sincerely dedicated to work and as he was workoholic he> > had> > > > health> > > > > > > > problems. He was a very good poet and has published a> > poetry> > > > book> > > > > > > > (this was my mother's prediction and he was astonished,> > even I> > > > was> > > > > >

> > astonished). Also the way he speaks is really> > astonishing, very> > > > > > > clear> > > > > > > > and dignified in speech and when he talks you feel he is> > really> > > > > > > > intelligent and a very dignified person.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 2. April-16-1986, 03.42, Hubli, India, student.> > > > > > > > (parents came with problem of whether he will join a> > > > professional> > > > > > > > course or not, which my mother predicted he will, seeing> > not> > > > only> > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna but also his good sidhamsha). But> > character> > > > wise,> > > > > > > he> > > > > > > >

seems to be very soft and lively person, and since there> > isnt> > > > any> > > > > > > > direct influence on Jupiter, we can safely say he is very> > > > > > > righteous,> > > > > > > > and disciplined and respects elders. The parents said> > indeed he> > > > was> > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > very soft-spoken and honest kid and very much respects all> > > > > > > > traditions. Since he was also running Jupiter dasha, he> > didnt> > > > have> > > > > > > > any sort of problems in his education. Also he plays> > tabla at> > > > > > > various> > > > > > > > competitions.> > > > > > > >> > >

> > > > > 3. April-16-1953, 09.10, Bangalore, MLC (Member of> > Legislative> > > > > > > > Council),> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > He came to ask whether he will win election (MP), but my> > mother> > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > he will not but he will still be in politics, and he went> > to> > > > > > > politics> > > > > > > > thru backdoor (became MLC). He is widely known by public> > to be> > > > > > > > corrupt and goonda. But my mother said completely> > opposite, that> > > > he> > > > > > > > is very soft, honest, righteous, does charity works, and> > sincere> > > > to> > > > > >

> > his wife. He was shell-shocked and almost went into> > tears. He> > > > said> > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > was pained at people calling him names, as he was very> > sincere.> > > > He> > > > > > > > said he had earned money thru hard work in real estate> > business> > > > and> > > > > > > > then was stepping into politics now, but people thought> > he made> > > > all> > > > > > > > that money in politics since he was also uneducated. He> > is not> > > > > > > > involved in even one scandal. He respects everyone and> > also does> > > > > > > > charity work. But, he is not educated well. But since> > Moon is in> > > >

> > > > lagna with Jupiter, he is sweet and soft in speech and> > has good> > > > > > > mind.> > > > > > > > But he is also very brave and courageous, because Mars in> > own> > > > house> > > > > > > > and Sun exalted. He is known to have dealt with his> > enemies in> > > > real-> > > > > > > > estate business with an iron hand. But its interesting to> > see> > > > that> > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > is not well educated.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > My Personal Conclusions about Jupiter in Lagna:> > > > > > > > a. Jupiter in Lagna definitely makes one have sweet and> > > > dignified> > >

> > > > > speech. He talks very sensibly and like a learned person.> > > > > > > > b. Respects traditions and elders.> > > > > > > > c. Very knowledgeable (not sure about education though).> > > > > > > > d. Gives some kind of artistic nature (music, speech,> > poetry,> > > > etc),> > > > > > > > though not like venus.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Vijay.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- In> > , "Sreenadh"> > > > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > Let us start discussing the effects of Jupiter in> > Lagna. The> > > > > > > > > lawyers/thread-owners for this thread are Pt. Arjun ji> > and> > > > > > > Srinivas> > > > > > > > ji.> > > > > > > > > They have the full right to argue in favor of Jupiter> > and its> > > > > > > power> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > produce identifiable results when placed in Lagna. Try> > to> > > > argue> > > > > > > > against> > > > > > > > > him or in support of them - validate the results with> > your own> > > > or> > >

> > > > > with> > > > > > > > > the charts known to you. I will start the discussion> > with> > > > minimum> > > > > > > > inputs> > > > > > > > > (fro Bhrigu sutra)-> > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter is present in lagna the native would be> > versatile> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > sound or linguistic related knowledge branches such as -> > > > > > > Vyakarana,> > > > > > > > > Tarka, oratory or the like. If Jupiter is in Cancer the> > said> > > > > > > results> > > > > > > > > will happen for sure.> > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter is in Lagna - the native will have good> >

longevity> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > great luck at or after the age of 16 years.> > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter in Lagna is aspected by malefic planets or> > in> > > > > > > > > debilitation or with malefics in enemy house - he would> > be> > > > > > > > interested in> > > > > > > > > doing bad deeds. His mind wavering, longevity - middle> > age,> > > > too> > > > > > > much> > > > > > > > > travel, egotic, no children, he will discard his> > relatives or> > > > the> > > > > > > > > relatives may discard him, he will say bad words> > against good> > > > > > > > people,> >

> > > > > > > sadness and sufferings will prevail.> > > > > > > > > So, here goes our group - Jupiter Centric.. Hurah,> > to the> > > > > > > > thread of> > > > > > > > > Pt. Arjun ji and Srinivas ji. > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with> > > > > > Search.> > > > > >>

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hare rama krishna ,

dear sree nadh ji ,

 

i was also thinking on same lines but was confused .

Hope he will come out with his anlaysis with renewed time zone

 

Thanks for clarifying .

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

 

 

, "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> He meant C-Hari (short for Chandra Hari) ayanamsa .. :=) Me too used> to write CHari to save typing. :=)> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> >> >> > Hare ramakrishna,> >> > dear anantha krishna ji ,> >> >> >> > which ayanamsa u r using ,what is this chari ayanamsa --or is it> > chandra hari ayanamsa .> >> >> >> > also i feel u r using 8hrs GMT time but its 7.30 hrs GMT those days> > .Pls read the all posts and re do the chart .> >> >> >> > thanks for participating> >> >> >> > regrds sunil nair> >> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> >> >> > , Anantha Krishnan> > anantha_krishnan_98@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Sheevani Ji and Sunil Ji:> > > If I use Chari Ayanamsa, I get Gemini lagna 27 deg 42.> > > This puts Rahu in the ninth house, which is the worst place for it> to> > be.> > > It also answers his problems in the Rahu mahadasa.> > > Gets married and divorced in Jup dasa; 7L in 10 H (good)and also 7L> in> > 6H(not so good) in NAV- answers why he gets married and later it> breaks> > up in the same mahadasa. Also it was why he was able to get his law> > degree in this maha dasa..> > > Fifth Lord Venus (in charge of progeny among other things) is in the> > enemy's house, afflicted by Mars- a natural and functional malefic and> > Ketu, -always interested in taking something away from you, which you> > desire. This might explain why he has no children.> > > The current and the next maha dasa is Sa and Me. Both of them are> > functional benefics and are both well situated in friendly/own home.> The> > only problem is that they are both combust, Sat more so than Me.> > > Next dasa Me which starts in 2012 will be better but of course by> > then, the prime time would have gone.....> > > Best wishes> > > anantha krishnan> > > sheevani147 sheevani147@ wrote: Dear Sunilji,> > >> > > Namaste ji,> > >> > > Thank you for your analysis of the chart..> > >> > > My personal views are that Rahu mahadasha was the hardest period for> > > him, lots of frustrations and health problems,, also the period he> > > started drinking..> > >> > > Jupiter MD, so far has been his best period, he was happier in> > > himself and got his Law degree..> > >> > > Regarding his drinking habits,, although like all alcoholics it> > > started with drinking on a daily basis,, but later( 1990's onwards)> > > it was more 'binge drinking' meaning he wud not touch alcohol for> > > many months or even a year or two, then when problems arise,, he> > > would drink heavily for all day for a week or so and ends up in> > > hospital. His last drinking episode was in 2006..> > >> > > One question, if I may? what in his horoscope denied him of> > > children,, he loves children very much.> > >> > > Many thanks> > >> > > Warmest regards> > > Sheevani> > >> > > , "sunil nair"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > > >> > > > dear shivani ji .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > I was realy studying the chart with various options and its> > > realay a> > > > interesting chart which reveals almost all astro principles known> > > to me> > > > .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Nativ has shoola yoga ( sapta grahas in 3 signs) and a spoiled> gaja> > > > kesary yoga .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > All most all benefic dasas to lagna has passed already and now> sani> > > s> > > > dasa running who is debilated in amsa .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > rahu in 8th house and sani is debilated (also combust )as 7th Lord> (> > > > both contributed a divorse ) also 9th Lord jup in own house and> > > vakra> > > > .venus the karaka for marriage afflicted heavily .MOOn is weak as> > > shukla> > > > prathama and nite birth .so lagna lord is also weak .> > > >> > > > also 2nd house and Lord and karaka ( jup ) afflicted given him> > > bad> > > > habbits regrds to drinking as affliction in 2nd house .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > also affected in earning same is with 4th house> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 9th Lord is strong in chart so may be reasons for dependable> source> > > of> > > > support from father .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > coming periods of rahu and jupiter may giv him some work i hope> tho> > > main> > > > period lord is weak .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > also sadesati going on and sani goin tru a weak rasi .also next> > > maha of> > > > merc also weak to deliver good results .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 9th Lord of dharma is strong ,so praying vishnu will help him if> he> > > can> > > > reduce drinking habbits .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > regrds sunil nair .> > > >> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "sheevani147"> > > > <sheevani147@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sunil ji.> > > > >> > > > > Namaste.> > > > >> > > > > Sure Sunil ji,, I am happy to share his birth details and events> > > in> > > > > his life..> > > > >> > > > > Birthdate,, 2nd October 1951,> > > > > time 01:55 hrs ( past midnight)> > > > > POB.. Penang, Malaysia..(Timezone +7.5 hrs GMT) u might> remember!> > > > > Lagna is cancer..> > > > >> > > > > He is good looking, light skin, 5'6 tall. slim built. Very> > > > > intelligent, soft spoken, though he has a quick temper, which> > > > > subsides quickly too. although he appears arrogant, but is> really> > > > > very friendly and caring.. good communication skills, both> spoken> > > and> > > > > written, good with debates, has good general knowledge.> > > > >> > > > > After completing his senior cambridge exams, travelled to India> in> > > > > 1968 to study medicine.. spent 2 years in punjab, 2 years in> > > > > rajasthan, and 2 years in Bombay,, although he passed his exams> > > but> > > > > didnt get admission into university.. Got into wrong company,,> had> > > > > lots of problems, took to drinking alcohol regularly, sqandered> > > money> > > > > and had health issues..> > > > >> > > > > Came back to Malaysia in 1974.. Got a job in civil service and> got> > > > > married in 1981. Drinking problem continued..lost jobs in> > > sucession> > > > > due to his addiction.. No children, divorced in 1992..> > > > >> > > > > In 1984, came to UK, studied Law and graduated with LLB in 1989.> > > > > Started his baristership training but did not complete it.> > > Returned> > > > > home in 1991.> > > > >> > > > > Remarried in 1996 in India to a young widow with 2 young sons..> > > > > Had a son of his own in Nov 1998 but child died during> > > childbirth..> > > > >> > > > > After death of child, constant fights between husband and wife> and> > > > > finally in 2005 got separation from his wife. Moved to UK in> 2007,> > > > > got permanent right to reside in UK.. Currently living with> > > parents,> > > > > looking after them.> > > > >> > > > > No self made assests, lived off father,s wealth most of his> life..> > > > > Tried various businesses and jobs,ended in losses and whenever> > > > > things got tough, he took to the bottle.. Although he can and> did> > > > > work hard for periods, but efforts were not> consistent..Generally> > > not> > > > > been very lucky..> > > > >> > > > > He is a wonderful individual to know, not reliable due to> drinking> > > > > habits.. He no longer has his drinking addiction, is very> > > > > spiritual/religious now, does a lot of community work and looks> > > after> > > > > his parents well.> > > > >> > > > > Warmest regards> > > > > Sheevani> > > > >> > > > > , "sunil nair"> > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > > > > >> > > > > > dear shivani ji ,> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > can u post the data of ur brother and post what ever known> > > > > details> > > > > > to the grp .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Let us see how they differ each other .Off cource kaal desh> > > patra> > > > > > principle apply here and one chart is a male and other is a> > > feamale> > > > > and> > > > > > place of birth is off cource differrent .We r curious to know> > > how> > > > > and> > > > > > what realy happened .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > I got once a similar chart ( differnt data ) ,one is a film> > > > > producer> > > > > > and business man from south and other is a unmarried very> > > beutiful> > > > > delhi> > > > > > girl who is working as a manager in a showroom ,and wanted to> > > know> > > > > when> > > > > > she will get married and the male chart i was consulted by> some> > > > > relativ> > > > > > to know abt the success of a 2nd marriage ,after an un> > > successful> > > > > lov> > > > > > marriage and divorce .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > actualy i dont hav data with me ,off cource its some where in> > > > > daily> > > > > > entry books .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > so pls post the data with ur observation and analysis and> > > > > comparisons> > > > > > if possible .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > >> > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > , "sheevani147"> > > > > > <sheevani147@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Namaste,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > My older brother has identical chart to your mother.. He was> > > born> > > > > on> > > > > > > 2 Oct 1951.. time 01:55 hrs. When I made chart of your> > > mother,, I> > > > > > > thought I was seeing double..> > > > > > >> > > > > > > warmest regards> > > > > > > Sheevani> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ,> > > Vijayanarasimha H> > > > > > > Pakka hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Shreenadhji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply. What you said seems very logical,> but> > > even> > > > > > > after change in Ayanamsha as you suggested and change in> year> > > > > length,> > > > > > > I get the same. She had uterus operation in Sep 30, 2001 and> > > on> > > > > Oct> > > > > > > 8th, she had brain haemorrage in the hospital itself, and> > > after> > > > > that> > > > > > > it was hell for all of us for nearly 3 months. Life seemed> to> > > end> > > > > for> > > > > > > all of us, and due to Lord Krishna and Lord Narsimha's grace> > > she> > > > > was> > > > > > > brought back to normal life and we all are a happy family> > > now. My> > > > > > > life changed after that. She was running Jup-Rahu-Venus> dasha> > > > > during> > > > > > > that time. She was expecting something to happen to her> lower> > > > > portion> > > > > > > of the body during operation (rahu representing legs). We> were> > > > > > > expecting something bad because during Rahu mahadasha, from> > > 1968> > > > > to> > > > > > > 1986 (especially 1976-1986), life was hell for my parents> > > (zero> > > > > > > income, living in a small house, father working day and> night> > > and> > > > > > > cheated by work partners, mother terribly illtreated from> in-> > > laws,> > > > > > > had abortion, etc). 1986 we shifted to a> > > > > > > > good house and suddenly all our problems almost vanished,> > > father> > > > > > > had a very good income, built 2 houses, established> industry,> > > etc> > > > > > > (she was running jupiter dasha from then). Till 2001 she had> a> > > > > very> > > > > > > good house life. Now, since saturn is in 3rd house, she is> > > > > enjoying> > > > > > > life again.> > > > > > > > DOB: 1-Oct-1951, 02.36 am, Koppal, 76E09, 15N21.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The point here I feel is that, even if malefic planets are> > > bad> > > > > > > (like rahu), a good placed jupiter somehow brings good> > > results to> > > > > the> > > > > > > native in the end. Jupiter is indeed life-saving if placed> > > well> > > > > and> > > > > > > has power.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Vijay.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > > > > > I will clarify it further -> > > > > > > > - Jupiter owns 6th house (disease) from Cancer Lagna> > > > > > > > - Mars owns the head of the Kalapurusha, i.e. Aries> > > > > > > > - Mars is debilitated in Lagna (cancer) which indicates> > > > > > > head of the native> > > > > > > > Where ever Mars be possibly this is a combination that may> > > give> > > > > > > disease or trouble. If there is malefic in Cancer> (especially> > > > > Ketu)> > > > > > > it could even give a minor heart attack in that period.> > > Therefore> > > > > > > considering the pointer Jupiter provides towards disease and> > > the> > > > > > > repeated pointers Mars provides towards head - it is clear> > > that> > > > > the> > > > > > > said period should be Ju/Ma.> > > > > > > > And that is why the guess, you must be getting it wrong,> > > due to> > > > > > > the use of wrong Ayanamsa and year length. It is such> examples> > > > > that> > > > > > > helps us to verify the validity of the Ayanamsa and year> > > length we> > > > > > > use in a practical perspective.> > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ,> "Sreenadh"> > > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Re: Jupiter (Thread owners - Pt. Arjun ji, Sreenivas ji)> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > > > > > ==>> > > > > > > > > My mother has jupiter in 9th house in pisces and rahu in> > > 8th,> > > > > she> > > > > > > had brain-haemorrhage in> > > > > > > > > jup dasha-rahu bhukthi> > > > > > > > <==> > > > > > > > This statement must be wrong - with the ownership of Aries> > > (the> > > > > > > head of Kalapurusha), it should be Jupiter dasa-Mars antara;> > > > > please> > > > > > > use CHari Ayanamsa (46 min more than Lahari) and 360 day> > > Savana> > > > > year> > > > > > > and let me know whether this assumption is correct or not.> > > Also> > > > > > > please inform where Mars is placed in the chart.> > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ,> > > > > Vijayanarasimha> > > > > > > H Pakka> > > > > > > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > Re: Re: Jupiter (Thread> > > owners -> > > > > Pt.> > > > > > > Arjun> > > > > > > > > ji, Sreenivas ji)> > > > > > > > > Dear Sunilji / Shreenadhji, Its very interesting (or> > > obvious)> > > > > how> > > > > > > > > malefic planets affect jupiter. We can also view the> > > chart as> > > > > > > benefic> > > > > > > > > jupiter reducing the malefic effect of rahu and we get> > > mixed> > > > > > > results> > > > > > > > > Anyway the more complications with jupiter, the more> > > > > discussions> > > > > > > we can> > > > > > > > > have. Maybe malefic-uninfluenced and powerful jupiter is> > > the> > > > > one> > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > truly makes the native famous, righteous, king-like,> etc.> > > I> > > > > would> > > > > > > rather> > > > > > > > > say from experience that, if for example the native has> > > some> > > > > bad> > > > > > > > > placements of other planets but has a good placement and> > > > > strength> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > jupiter, he suffers sometimes but finally he emerges> > > > > victorious.> > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > should be the approach a practical astrologer should> take> > > > > while> > > > > > > > > predicting results, rather than jumping guns to proclaim> > > that> > > > > a> > > > > > > good> > > > > > > > > jupiter (or in lagna) will make the native king-like. My> > > > > mother> > > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > jupiter in 9th house in pisces and rahu in 8th, she had> > > > > > > > > brain-haemorrhage in jup dasha-rahu bhukthi (also> jupiter> > > was> > > > > in> > > > > > > ghataka> > > > > > > > > sthana in 10th house from moon in transit), but she> > > recovered> > > > > > > > > fantastically and is perfectly fine (taking some regular> > > > > tablets)> > > > > > > now.> > > > > > > > > So, dangers are there due to some planets but if some> > > other> > > > > > > planets,> > > > > > > > > especially jupiter is good in one's chart, then the> final> > > > > victory> > > > > > > is to> > > > > > > > > the native. Regarding winding up the jupiter in lagna> > > thread,> > > > > it> > > > > > > > > seems a big job if we start considering the effects of> > > > > jupiter in> > > > > > > each> > > > > > > > > lagna and also influence of each planet on jupiter in> > > lagna.> > > > > Then> > > > > > > we get> > > > > > > > > innumerable combinations to deal with , example: 1.> > > Jupiter in> > > > > > > Aries> > > > > > > > > lagna, uninfluenced> > > > > > > > > 2. Jupiter in Aries lagna, influenced by saturn, 3.> > > Jupiter in> > > > > > > Aries> > > > > > > > > lagna influenced by sun, etc. Also we should keep in> mind> > > the> > > > > > > strength> > > > > > > > > and placement of lagna lord. With so many combinations,> I> > > can> > > > > say> > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > will take more than 1 year to discuss all these cases> > > Anyway,> > > > > as a> > > > > > > > > practical approach, its more than enough if we wind up> > > with> > > > > > > jupiter's> > > > > > > > > effects in various lagnas; and just mention as an> > > important> > > > > > > footnote to> > > > > > > > > be careful to look out for influences of other planets> and> > > > > > > placement of> > > > > > > > > lagna lord Finally, if Shreenadhji / Suniji / Neelamji /> > > or> > > > > any> > > > > > > other> > > > > > > > > member throw some light (along with any verses) on> > > jupiter's> > > > > > > effects in> > > > > > > > > various lagnas on one's artistic skills and when> > > influenced by> > > > > > > other> > > > > > > > > planets, I would be grateful. From experience I find it> > > > > difficult> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > estimate the artistic value of jupiter , maybe because> my> > > > > lagna> > > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > venus, who is enemy of Jupiter Regards, Vijay.>> > > > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna ,> > > > > > > > > > dear maligere ji ,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Jup is not alone in lagna but with a dire malefic rahu> > > ( in> > > > > > > north its> > > > > > > > > knows as guru chandal yoga ) .So rsults attributed to> > > single> > > > > jup> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > lagna how is it possible .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > also sani and mars forming agni maruta yoga ( so the> > > houses> > > > > > > involved> > > > > > > > > can suffer ) also this yoga has no benefic aspects . ( u> > > hav> > > > > to> > > > > > > giv us> > > > > > > > > feed back ) .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > also born in jup -merc period .then this sat dasa (> Athi> > > > > > > balavasta or> > > > > > > > > atma karaka planet ) ( tho yoga karaka ) also in marak> > > house> > > > > then> > > > > > > merc (> > > > > > > > > 64th navamsa and 22nd drekkana Lord) and then ketu in> 7th> > > > > dasa (> > > > > > > another> > > > > > > > > maraka place ) ,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > But i think he must hav born in good family ??> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > giv us ur feed back with full detailed analsysis .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > any way jup in lagna is not applicable as other> > > influnces r> > > > > > > there .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > , "M.A"> > > > > maligere@> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunilji,pundit ji> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This is the details of a person who has jupiter in> > > lagna,> > > > > i> > > > > > > have not> > > > > > > > > seen any of the benefits that is been discussed here in> > > this> > > > > > > thread for> > > > > > > > > this person. I can say he has seen nothing but> > > difficulties in> > > > > > > life, his> > > > > > > > > health is also nothing to boast about.> > > > > > > > > > > " saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an> > > > > > > attractive> > > > > > > > > personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and> > > > > > > espectable> > > > > > > > > name"> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This statement is totally opposite of what i have> > > seen in> > > > > this> > > > > > > > > persons life> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Name : Sreenivas> > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > > September 9, 1958> > > > > > > > > > > Time: 10:10:00 am> > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > Place: 76 E 05' 00", 13 N 00' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > Hassan, India> > > > > > > > > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > > > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vilamba - Nija Sravana> > > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (77.75% left)> > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)> > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (59.56% left)> > > > > > > > > > > Yoga: Variyan (Ju) (89.14% left)> > > > > > > > > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (55.51% left)> > > > > > > > > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Cn)> > > > > > > > > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> > > > > > > > > > > Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)> > > > > > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:18:07 am> > > > > > > > > > > Sunset: 6:28:06 pm> > > > > > > > > > > Janma Ghatis: 9.6618> > > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-16-55.29> > > > > > > > > > > Sidereal Time: 8:55:15> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanx n' rgds> > > > > > > > > > > Maligere> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > > > > > > > > > > dear pundit ji ,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > yes ,it says guru lagna can counter 1 crore doshas -> > > > > laksham> > > > > > > dosham> > > > > > > > > guru hanti .> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > what if its in actual experiences .for exmaple i> > > wanted to> > > > > > > know more> > > > > > > > > abt taurus lagna with guru as guru is 8th Lord and his> > > mool> > > > > > > trikon sign> > > > > > > > > also 8th house .> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > any memebrs has any charts ?? I think latha> > > mangeshwar ji> > > > > is> > > > > > > taurus> > > > > > > > > lagna .> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004"> > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > dear vijayji> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > your mail with example charts and the lives of the> > > > > natives> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna from your database is informative> > > and> > > > > > > > > appreciated.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > lord rama has jupiter in lagna. some notable> people> > > with> > > > > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > lagna are as follows:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. bharatratna lata mangeshkar> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. erstwhile mysore maharaja krishnaraja wadiyar> IV> > > > > > > > > > > > 3. tata group founder JRD tata> > > > > > > > > > > > 4. former chief minister and actor N T Ramarao> > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sri Aurobindo> > > > > > > > > > > > 6. kanchi sankaracharya sri vijayendra saraswati> > > > > > > > > > > > 7. former prime minister rajiv gandhi> > > > > > > > > > > > 8. emperor akbar> > > > > > > > > > > > 9. emperor aurangazeb> > > > > > > > > > > > 10. tennis star sania mirza> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > the above varied list contains emperors, rajas,> > > prime> > > > > > > minsiters,> > > > > > > > > > > > business tycoons, actors, singers, sportspersons> and> > > > > even> > > > > > > saints.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an> > > > > > > attractive> > > > > > > > > > > > personality, energetic health, long life,> > > courageous and> > > > > > > > > respectable> > > > > > > > > > > > name.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna is perceived as positive by most> if> > > > > not all> > > > > > > > > > > > astrologers. even those few who say guru spoils> > > lagna by> > > > > > > sitting> > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > lagna say that his benefic aspect on 5, 7 and 9> > > houses> > > > > (one> > > > > > > > > quadrant> > > > > > > > > > > > and two trines) is auspicious for the native.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > as mentioned by tatvamasiji in one of his mails> > > earlier,> > > > > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > unanimously considered giving positive benfits on> > > all> > > > > the> > > > > > > three> > > > > > > > > > > > houses he aspect.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > the title "jeeva" or enlivener is granted by lord> > > shiva> > > > > to> > > > > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > > > > > and naturally jupiter is a natural benefic.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > an axiom says guru in kendra negates one lakh> > > doshams.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > > > > > > > > > > pandit arjun> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > , "Vijay"> > > > > > > > > > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Its been long time since I visited the group,> but> > > its> > > > > > > really> > > > > > > > > great> > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > get hundreds of messages in my Inbox. I went> thru> > > > > most of> > > > > > > them> > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > currently started to seriously go thru the files> > > > > section> > > > > > > of this> > > > > > > > > > > > > group, which is really very useful. Regarding> > > Jupiter> > > > > in> > > > > > > Lagna I> > > > > > > > > > > > > searched thru some of my database and found some> > > > > > > interesting> > > > > > > > > cases.> > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, I shall give the details of their birth> and> > > > > their> > > > > > > > > > > > > characteristics rather than important events in> > > their> > > > > > > life,> > > > > > > > > because> > > > > > > > > > > > > as we all know jupiter in lagna ALONE has little> > > to do> > > > > > > with the> > > > > > > > > > > > > events in their lives. For the events in their> > > lives> > > > > we> > > > > > > have to> > > > > > > > > > > > > consider all other effects, which is out of the> > > scope> > > > > of> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > present> > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion. The persons have clarified with me> > > about> > > > > their> > > > > > > > > > > > characters.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. IAS Officer (came with problems in health and> > > > > political> > > > > > > > > problems> > > > > > > > > > > > > in job):> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > June-23-1956, 11.05 am, Gudibanda, India,> 77.41.E,> > > > > > > 13.40.N.> > > > > > > > > > > > > Character: I predicted he is very upright> officer> > > and> > > > > very> > > > > > > > > dynamic> > > > > > > > > > > > > because Jupiter in Leo Lagna makes one not just> > > honest> > > > > > > (which is> > > > > > > > > > > > why> > > > > > > > > > > > > he was transferred every 2 years by political> > > persons> > > > > and> > > > > > > even> > > > > > > > > got> > > > > > > > > > > > > death threats), but also very dynamic and knows> > > how to> > > > > > > control> > > > > > > > > > > > > people. He was very sweet in speech and very> > > decent> > > > > but> > > > > > > at the> > > > > > > > > same> > > > > > > > > > > > > time he seemed dominating (because Mars in 7th> > > > > house). He> > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > feared in his circle because he is very honest> > > and he> > > > > is> > > > > > > also> > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > scared of goondas and death threats. He was a> > > primary> > > > > > > school> > > > > > > > > > > > teacher> > > > > > > > > > > > > in a village before he became an IAS Officer. He> > > > > seems to> > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely dedicated to work and as he was> > > workoholic> > > > > he> > > > > > > had> > > > > > > > > health> > > > > > > > > > > > > problems. He was a very good poet and has> > > published a> > > > > > > poetry> > > > > > > > > book> > > > > > > > > > > > > (this was my mother's prediction and he was> > > > > astonished,> > > > > > > even I> > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > astonished). Also the way he speaks is really> > > > > > > astonishing, very> > > > > > > > > > > > clear> > > > > > > > > > > > > and dignified in speech and when he talks you> > > feel he> > > > > is> > > > > > > really> > > > > > > > > > > > > intelligent and a very dignified person.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. April-16-1986, 03.42, Hubli, India, student.> > > > > > > > > > > > > (parents came with problem of whether he will> > > join a> > > > > > > > > professional> > > > > > > > > > > > > course or not, which my mother predicted he> will,> > > > > seeing> > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > only> > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna but also his good sidhamsha).> But> > > > > > > character> > > > > > > > > wise,> > > > > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > > seems to be very soft and lively person, and> since> > > > > there> > > > > > > isnt> > > > > > > > > any> > > > > > > > > > > > > direct influence on Jupiter, we can safely say> he> > > is> > > > > very> > > > > > > > > > > > righteous,> > > > > > > > > > > > > and disciplined and respects elders. The parents> > > said> > > > > > > indeed he> > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > > > > very soft-spoken and honest kid and very much> > > > > respects all> > > > > > > > > > > > > traditions. Since he was also running Jupiter> > > dasha,> > > > > he> > > > > > > didnt> > > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > > > > any sort of problems in his education. Also he> > > plays> > > > > > > tabla at> > > > > > > > > > > > various> > > > > > > > > > > > > competitions.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. April-16-1953, 09.10, Bangalore, MLC (Member> of> > > > > > > Legislative> > > > > > > > > > > > > Council),> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > He came to ask whether he will win election> (MP),> > > but> > > > > my> > > > > > > mother> > > > > > > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > > > > > he will not but he will still be in politics,> and> > > he> > > > > went> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > politics> > > > > > > > > > > > > thru backdoor (became MLC). He is widely known> by> > > > > public> > > > > > > to be> > > > > > > > > > > > > corrupt and goonda. But my mother said> completely> > > > > > > opposite, that> > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > > is very soft, honest, righteous, does charity> > > works,> > > > > and> > > > > > > sincere> > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > his wife. He was shell-shocked and almost went> > > into> > > > > > > tears. He> > > > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > > was pained at people calling him names, as he> was> > > very> > > > > > > sincere.> > > > > > > > > He> > > > > > > > > > > > > said he had earned money thru hard work in real> > > estate> > > > > > > business> > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > then was stepping into politics now, but people> > > > > thought> > > > > > > he made> > > > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > > > > that money in politics since he was also> > > uneducated.> > > > > He> > > > > > > is not> > > > > > > > > > > > > involved in even one scandal. He respects> > > everyone and> > > > > > > also does> > > > > > > > > > > > > charity work. But, he is not educated well. But> > > since> > > > > > > Moon is in> > > > > > > > > > > > > lagna with Jupiter, he is sweet and soft in> > > speech and> > > > > > > has good> > > > > > > > > > > > mind.> > > > > > > > > > > > > But he is also very brave and courageous,> because> > > > > Mars in> > > > > > > own> > > > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > > > > > and Sun exalted. He is known to have dealt with> > > his> > > > > > > enemies in> > > > > > > > > real-> > > > > > > > > > > > > estate business with an iron hand. But its> > > > > interesting to> > > > > > > see> > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > > is not well educated.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > My Personal Conclusions about Jupiter in Lagna:> > > > > > > > > > > > > a. Jupiter in Lagna definitely makes one have> > > sweet> > > > > and> > > > > > > > > dignified> > > > > > > > > > > > > speech. He talks very sensibly and like a> learned> > > > > person.> > > > > > > > > > > > > b. Respects traditions and elders.> > > > > > > > > > > > > c. Very knowledgeable (not sure about education> > > > > though).> > > > > > > > > > > > > d. Gives some kind of artistic nature (music,> > > speech,> > > > > > > poetry,> > > > > > > > > etc),> > > > > > > > > > > > > though not like venus.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > , "Sreenadh"> > > > > > > > > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us start discussing the effects of Jupiter> > > in> > > > > > > Lagna. The> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lawyers/thread-owners for this thread are Pt.> > > Arjun> > > > > ji> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > Srinivas> > > > > > > > > > > > > ji.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > They have the full right to argue in favor of> > > > > Jupiter> > > > > > > and its> > > > > > > > > > > > power> > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > produce identifiable results when placed in> > > Lagna.> > > > > Try> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > argue> > > > > > > > > > > > > against> > > > > > > > > > > > > > him or in support of them - validate the> results> > > > > with> > > > > > > your own> > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the charts known to you. I will start the> > > discussion> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > minimum> > > > > > > > > > > > > inputs> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (fro Bhrigu sutra)-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter is present in lagna the native> > > would be> > > > > > > versatile> > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sound or linguistic related knowledge branches> > > such> > > > > as -> > > > > > > > > > > > Vyakarana,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarka, oratory or the like. If Jupiter is in> > > Cancer> > > > > the> > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > > > > results> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will happen for sure.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter is in Lagna - the native will> have> > > good> > > > > > > longevity> > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > great luck at or after the age of 16 years.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter in Lagna is aspected by malefic> > > > > planets or> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > debilitation or with malefics in enemy house -> > > he> > > > > would> > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > > > > interested in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing bad deeds. His mind wavering, longevity> -> > > > > middle> > > > > > > age,> > > > > > > > > too> > > > > > > > > > > > much> > > > > > > > > > > > > > travel, egotic, no children, he will discard> his> > > > > > > relatives or> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > relatives may discard him, he will say bad> words> > > > > > > against good> > > > > > > > > > > > > people,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sadness and sufferings will prevail.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, here goes our group - Jupiter Centric.. > > > > > Hurah,> > > > > > > to the> > > > > > > > > > > > > thread of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pt. Arjun ji and Srinivas ji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them> fast> > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Search.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with> > > > > > > > > > Mobile. Try> > > > > > > > > it now.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > > > Mobile.> > > > > > > Try it now.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Sunil ji:I did not save save my previous chart . I know I used the CHari Ayanamsa and 7.30+ time zone. However, redoing the chart, now the lagna is 2 Cancer 22. Must have punched something wrong. I withdraw my previous analysis.Sorry for the trouble.Best wishesanantha krishnansunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: hare rama krishna , dear sree nadh ji ,

i was also thinking on same lines but was confused . Hope he will come out with his anlaysis with renewed time zone Thanks for clarifying . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> He meant C-Hari (short for Chandra Hari) ayanamsa .. :=) Me too used> to write CHari to save typing. :=)> Love and regards,>

Sreenadh> , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> >> >> > Hare ramakrishna,> >> > dear anantha krishna ji ,> >> >> >> > which ayanamsa u r using ,what is this chari ayanamsa --or is it> > chandra hari ayanamsa .> >> >> >> > also i feel u r using 8hrs GMT time but its 7.30 hrs GMT those days> > .Pls read the all posts and re do the chart .> >> >> >> > thanks for participating> >> >> >> > regrds sunil nair> >> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> >> >> > , Anantha Krishnan> > anantha_krishnan_98@ wrote:> >

>> > >> > > Dear Sheevani Ji and Sunil Ji:> > > If I use Chari Ayanamsa, I get Gemini lagna 27 deg 42.> > > This puts Rahu in the ninth house, which is the worst place for it> to> > be.> > > It also answers his problems in the Rahu mahadasa.> > > Gets married and divorced in Jup dasa; 7L in 10 H (good)and also 7L> in> > 6H(not so good) in NAV- answers why he gets married and later it> breaks> > up in the same mahadasa. Also it was why he was able to get his law> > degree in this maha dasa..> > > Fifth Lord Venus (in charge of progeny among other things) is in the> > enemy's house, afflicted by Mars- a natural and functional malefic and> > Ketu, -always interested in taking something away from you, which you> > desire. This might explain why he has no children.> > > The current

and the next maha dasa is Sa and Me. Both of them are> > functional benefics and are both well situated in friendly/own home.> The> > only problem is that they are both combust, Sat more so than Me.> > > Next dasa Me which starts in 2012 will be better but of course by> > then, the prime time would have gone.....> > > Best wishes> > > anantha krishnan> > > sheevani147 sheevani147@ wrote: Dear Sunilji,> > >> > > Namaste ji,> > >> > > Thank you for your analysis of the chart..> > >> > > My personal views are that Rahu mahadasha was the hardest period for> > > him, lots of frustrations and health problems,, also the period he> > > started drinking..> > >> > > Jupiter MD, so far has been his best period, he was happier in> > > himself and got his

Law degree..> > >> > > Regarding his drinking habits,, although like all alcoholics it> > > started with drinking on a daily basis,, but later( 1990's onwards)> > > it was more 'binge drinking' meaning he wud not touch alcohol for> > > many months or even a year or two, then when problems arise,, he> > > would drink heavily for all day for a week or so and ends up in> > > hospital. His last drinking episode was in 2006..> > >> > > One question, if I may? what in his horoscope denied him of> > > children,, he loves children very much.> > >> > > Many thanks> > >> > > Warmest regards> > > Sheevani> > >> > > , "sunil nair"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >>

> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > > >> > > > dear shivani ji .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > I was realy studying the chart with various options and its> > > realay a> > > > interesting chart which reveals almost all astro principles known> > > to me> > > > .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Nativ has shoola yoga ( sapta grahas in 3 signs) and a spoiled> gaja> > > > kesary yoga .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > All most all benefic dasas to lagna has passed already and now> sani> > > s> > > > dasa running who is debilated in amsa .> > > >> > >

>> > > >> > > > rahu in 8th house and sani is debilated (also combust )as 7th Lord> (> > > > both contributed a divorse ) also 9th Lord jup in own house and> > > vakra> > > > .venus the karaka for marriage afflicted heavily .MOOn is weak as> > > shukla> > > > prathama and nite birth .so lagna lord is also weak .> > > >> > > > also 2nd house and Lord and karaka ( jup ) afflicted given him> > > bad> > > > habbits regrds to drinking as affliction in 2nd house .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > also affected in earning same is with 4th house> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 9th Lord is strong in chart so may be reasons for dependable> source> > > of> > >

> support from father .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > coming periods of rahu and jupiter may giv him some work i hope> tho> > > main> > > > period lord is weak .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > also sadesati going on and sani goin tru a weak rasi .also next> > > maha of> > > > merc also weak to deliver good results .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 9th Lord of dharma is strong ,so praying vishnu will help him if> he> > > can> > > > reduce drinking habbits .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > regrds sunil nair .> > > >> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah>

> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "sheevani147"> > > > <sheevani147@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sunil ji.> > > > >> > > > > Namaste.> > > > >> > > > > Sure Sunil ji,, I am happy to share his birth details and events> > > in> > > > > his life..> > > > >> > > > > Birthdate,, 2nd October 1951,> > > > > time 01:55 hrs ( past midnight)> > > > > POB.. Penang, Malaysia..(Timezone +7.5 hrs GMT) u might> remember!> > > > > Lagna is cancer..> > > > >> > > > > He is good

looking, light skin, 5'6 tall. slim built. Very> > > > > intelligent, soft spoken, though he has a quick temper, which> > > > > subsides quickly too. although he appears arrogant, but is> really> > > > > very friendly and caring.. good communication skills, both> spoken> > > and> > > > > written, good with debates, has good general knowledge.> > > > >> > > > > After completing his senior cambridge exams, travelled to India> in> > > > > 1968 to study medicine.. spent 2 years in punjab, 2 years in> > > > > rajasthan, and 2 years in Bombay,, although he passed his exams> > > but> > > > > didnt get admission into university.. Got into wrong company,,> had> > > > > lots of problems, took to drinking alcohol regularly, sqandered>

> > money> > > > > and had health issues..> > > > >> > > > > Came back to Malaysia in 1974.. Got a job in civil service and> got> > > > > married in 1981. Drinking problem continued..lost jobs in> > > sucession> > > > > due to his addiction.. No children, divorced in 1992..> > > > >> > > > > In 1984, came to UK, studied Law and graduated with LLB in 1989.> > > > > Started his baristership training but did not complete it.> > > Returned> > > > > home in 1991.> > > > >> > > > > Remarried in 1996 in India to a young widow with 2 young sons..> > > > > Had a son of his own in Nov 1998 but child died during> > > childbirth..> > > > >> > > > > After death of child,

constant fights between husband and wife> and> > > > > finally in 2005 got separation from his wife. Moved to UK in> 2007,> > > > > got permanent right to reside in UK.. Currently living with> > > parents,> > > > > looking after them.> > > > >> > > > > No self made assests, lived off father,s wealth most of his> life..> > > > > Tried various businesses and jobs,ended in losses and whenever> > > > > things got tough, he took to the bottle.. Although he can and> did> > > > > work hard for periods, but efforts were not> consistent..Generally> > > not> > > > > been very lucky..> > > > >> > > > > He is a wonderful individual to know, not reliable due to> drinking> > > > > habits..

He no longer has his drinking addiction, is very> > > > > spiritual/religious now, does a lot of community work and looks> > > after> > > > > his parents well.> > > > >> > > > > Warmest regards> > > > > Sheevani> > > > >> > > > > , "sunil nair"> > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > > > > >> > > > > > dear shivani ji ,> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > can u post the data of ur brother and post what ever known> > >

> > details> > > > > > to the grp .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Let us see how they differ each other .Off cource kaal desh> > > patra> > > > > > principle apply here and one chart is a male and other is a> > > feamale> > > > > and> > > > > > place of birth is off cource differrent .We r curious to know> > > how> > > > > and> > > > > > what realy happened .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > I got once a similar chart ( differnt data ) ,one is a film> > > > > producer> > > > > > and business man from south and other is a unmarried very> > >

beutiful> > > > > delhi> > > > > > girl who is working as a manager in a showroom ,and wanted to> > > know> > > > > when> > > > > > she will get married and the male chart i was consulted by> some> > > > > relativ> > > > > > to know abt the success of a 2nd marriage ,after an un> > > successful> > > > > lov> > > > > > marriage and divorce .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > actualy i dont hav data with me ,off cource its some where in> > > > > daily> > > > > > entry books .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > so pls post the data with ur observation

and analysis and> > > > > comparisons> > > > > > if possible .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > >> > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > , "sheevani147"> > > > > > <sheevani147@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Namaste,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > My older brother has identical chart to

your mother.. He was> > > born> > > > > on> > > > > > > 2 Oct 1951.. time 01:55 hrs. When I made chart of your> > > mother,, I> > > > > > > thought I was seeing double..> > > > > > >> > > > > > > warmest regards> > > > > > > Sheevani> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ,> > > Vijayanarasimha H> > > > > > > Pakka hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Shreenadhji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply. What you said seems very logical,> but> > > even> > > > > > > after change in

Ayanamsha as you suggested and change in> year> > > > > length,> > > > > > > I get the same. She had uterus operation in Sep 30, 2001 and> > > on> > > > > Oct> > > > > > > 8th, she had brain haemorrage in the hospital itself, and> > > after> > > > > that> > > > > > > it was hell for all of us for nearly 3 months. Life seemed> to> > > end> > > > > for> > > > > > > all of us, and due to Lord Krishna and Lord Narsimha's grace> > > she> > > > > was> > > > > > > brought back to normal life and we all are a happy family> > > now. My> > > > > > > life changed after that. She was running Jup-Rahu-Venus> dasha> > > > > during> >

> > > > > that time. She was expecting something to happen to her> lower> > > > > portion> > > > > > > of the body during operation (rahu representing legs). We> were> > > > > > > expecting something bad because during Rahu mahadasha, from> > > 1968> > > > > to> > > > > > > 1986 (especially 1976-1986), life was hell for my parents> > > (zero> > > > > > > income, living in a small house, father working day and> night> > > and> > > > > > > cheated by work partners, mother terribly illtreated from> in-> > > laws,> > > > > > > had abortion, etc). 1986 we shifted to a> > > > > > > > good house and suddenly all our problems almost vanished,> > > father>

> > > > > > had a very good income, built 2 houses, established> industry,> > > etc> > > > > > > (she was running jupiter dasha from then). Till 2001 she had> a> > > > > very> > > > > > > good house life. Now, since saturn is in 3rd house, she is> > > > > enjoying> > > > > > > life again.> > > > > > > > DOB: 1-Oct-1951, 02.36 am, Koppal, 76E09, 15N21.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The point here I feel is that, even if malefic planets are> > > bad> > > > > > > (like rahu), a good placed jupiter somehow brings good> > > results to> > > > > the> > > > > > > native in the end. Jupiter is indeed life-saving if placed> > >

well> > > > > and> > > > > > > has power.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Vijay.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > > > > > I will clarify it further -> > > > > > > > - Jupiter owns 6th house (disease) from Cancer Lagna> > > > > > > > - Mars owns the head of the Kalapurusha, i.e. Aries> > > > > > > > - Mars is debilitated in Lagna (cancer) which indicates> > > > > > > head of the native> > > > > > > > Where ever Mars be possibly this is a combination that may> > >

give> > > > > > > disease or trouble. If there is malefic in Cancer> (especially> > > > > Ketu)> > > > > > > it could even give a minor heart attack in that period.> > > Therefore> > > > > > > considering the pointer Jupiter provides towards disease and> > > the> > > > > > > repeated pointers Mars provides towards head - it is clear> > > that> > > > > the> > > > > > > said period should be Ju/Ma.> > > > > > > > And that is why the guess, you must be getting it wrong,> > > due to> > > > > > > the use of wrong Ayanamsa and year length. It is such> examples> > > > > that> > > > > > > helps us to verify the validity of the Ayanamsa and year> >

> length we> > > > > > > use in a practical perspective.> > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ,> "Sreenadh"> > > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Re: Jupiter (Thread owners - Pt. Arjun ji, Sreenivas ji)> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > > > > > ==>> > > > > > > > > My mother has jupiter in 9th house in pisces and rahu in> > > 8th,> > > > > she> > > > > > > had brain-haemorrhage in> > > > > > > > > jup dasha-rahu bhukthi> >

> > > > > > <==> > > > > > > > This statement must be wrong - with the ownership of Aries> > > (the> > > > > > > head of Kalapurusha), it should be Jupiter dasa-Mars antara;> > > > > please> > > > > > > use CHari Ayanamsa (46 min more than Lahari) and 360 day> > > Savana> > > > > year> > > > > > > and let me know whether this assumption is correct or not.> > > Also> > > > > > > please inform where Mars is placed in the chart.> > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ,> > > > > Vijayanarasimha>

> > > > > > H Pakka> > > > > > > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > Re: Re: Jupiter (Thread> > > owners -> > > > > Pt.> > > > > > > Arjun> > > > > > > > > ji, Sreenivas ji)> > > > > > > > > Dear Sunilji / Shreenadhji, Its very interesting (or> > > obvious)> > > > > how> > > > > > > > > malefic planets affect jupiter. We can also view the> > > chart as> > > > > > > benefic> > > > > > > > > jupiter reducing the malefic effect of rahu and we get> > > mixed> > > > > > > results> > > > > > > > > Anyway the more complications with jupiter, the

more> > > > > discussions> > > > > > > we can> > > > > > > > > have. Maybe malefic-uninfluenced and powerful jupiter is> > > the> > > > > one> > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > truly makes the native famous, righteous, king-like,> etc.> > > I> > > > > would> > > > > > > rather> > > > > > > > > say from experience that, if for example the native has> > > some> > > > > bad> > > > > > > > > placements of other planets but has a good placement and> > > > > strength> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > jupiter, he suffers sometimes but finally he emerges> > > > >

victorious.> > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > should be the approach a practical astrologer should> take> > > > > while> > > > > > > > > predicting results, rather than jumping guns to proclaim> > > that> > > > > a> > > > > > > good> > > > > > > > > jupiter (or in lagna) will make the native king-like. My> > > > > mother> > > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > jupiter in 9th house in pisces and rahu in 8th, she had> > > > > > > > > brain-haemorrhage in jup dasha-rahu bhukthi (also> jupiter> > > was> > > > > in> > > > > > > ghataka> > > > > > > > > sthana in 10th house from moon in

transit), but she> > > recovered> > > > > > > > > fantastically and is perfectly fine (taking some regular> > > > > tablets)> > > > > > > now.> > > > > > > > > So, dangers are there due to some planets but if some> > > other> > > > > > > planets,> > > > > > > > > especially jupiter is good in one's chart, then the> final> > > > > victory> > > > > > > is to> > > > > > > > > the native. Regarding winding up the jupiter in lagna> > > thread,> > > > > it> > > > > > > > > seems a big job if we start considering the effects of> > > > > jupiter in> > > > > > > each> > > > > > > >

> lagna and also influence of each planet on jupiter in> > > lagna.> > > > > Then> > > > > > > we get> > > > > > > > > innumerable combinations to deal with , example: 1.> > > Jupiter in> > > > > > > Aries> > > > > > > > > lagna, uninfluenced> > > > > > > > > 2. Jupiter in Aries lagna, influenced by saturn, 3.> > > Jupiter in> > > > > > > Aries> > > > > > > > > lagna influenced by sun, etc. Also we should keep in> mind> > > the> > > > > > > strength> > > > > > > > > and placement of lagna lord. With so many combinations,> I> > > can> > > > > say> > > > > > > it> > >

> > > > > > will take more than 1 year to discuss all these cases> > > Anyway,> > > > > as a> > > > > > > > > practical approach, its more than enough if we wind up> > > with> > > > > > > jupiter's> > > > > > > > > effects in various lagnas; and just mention as an> > > important> > > > > > > footnote to> > > > > > > > > be careful to look out for influences of other planets> and> > > > > > > placement of> > > > > > > > > lagna lord Finally, if Shreenadhji / Suniji / Neelamji /> > > or> > > > > any> > > > > > > other> > > > > > > > > member throw some light (along with any verses) on> > >

jupiter's> > > > > > > effects in> > > > > > > > > various lagnas on one's artistic skills and when> > > influenced by> > > > > > > other> > > > > > > > > planets, I would be grateful. From experience I find it> > > > > difficult> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > estimate the artistic value of jupiter , maybe because> my> > > > > lagna> > > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > venus, who is enemy of Jupiter Regards, Vijay.>> > > > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna ,> > > > > > > > > > dear maligere ji ,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Jup is not alone in lagna but

with a dire malefic rahu> > > ( in> > > > > > > north its> > > > > > > > > knows as guru chandal yoga ) .So rsults attributed to> > > single> > > > > jup> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > lagna how is it possible .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > also sani and mars forming agni maruta yoga ( so the> > > houses> > > > > > > involved> > > > > > > > > can suffer ) also this yoga has no benefic aspects . ( u> > > hav> > > > > to> > > > > > > giv us> > > > > > > > > feed back ) .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > also born in

jup -merc period .then this sat dasa (> Athi> > > > > > > balavasta or> > > > > > > > > atma karaka planet ) ( tho yoga karaka ) also in marak> > > house> > > > > then> > > > > > > merc (> > > > > > > > > 64th navamsa and 22nd drekkana Lord) and then ketu in> 7th> > > > > dasa (> > > > > > > another> > > > > > > > > maraka place ) ,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > But i think he must hav born in good family ??> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > giv us ur feed back with full detailed analsysis .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > any

way jup in lagna is not applicable as other> > > influnces r> > > > > > > there .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > , "M.A"> > > > > maligere@> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunilji,pundit ji> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This is the details of a person who has jupiter in> > > lagna,>

> > > > i> > > > > > > have not> > > > > > > > > seen any of the benefits that is been discussed here in> > > this> > > > > > > thread for> > > > > > > > > this person. I can say he has seen nothing but> > > difficulties in> > > > > > > life, his> > > > > > > > > health is also nothing to boast about.> > > > > > > > > > > " saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an> > > > > > > attractive> > > > > > > > > personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and> > > > > > > espectable> > > > > > > > > name"> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >

> This statement is totally opposite of what i have> > > seen in> > > > > this> > > > > > > > > persons life> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Name : Sreenivas> > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > > September 9, 1958> > > > > > > > > > > Time: 10:10:00 am> > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > Place: 76 E 05' 00", 13 N 00' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > Hassan, India> > > > > > > > > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > > > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vilamba - Nija Sravana> > > >

> > > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (77.75% left)> > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)> > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (59.56% left)> > > > > > > > > > > Yoga: Variyan (Ju) (89.14% left)> > > > > > > > > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (55.51% left)> > > > > > > > > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Cn)> > > > > > > > > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> > > > > > > > > > > Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)> > > > > > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:18:07 am> > > > > > > > > > > Sunset: 6:28:06 pm> > > > > > > > > > > Janma Ghatis: 9.6618> > >

> > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-16-55.29> > > > > > > > > > > Sidereal Time: 8:55:15> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanx n' rgds> > > > > > > > > > > Maligere> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > > > > > > > > > > dear pundit ji ,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > yes ,it says guru lagna can counter 1 crore doshas -> > > > > laksham> > > > > > > dosham> > > > > >

> > > guru hanti .> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > what if its in actual experiences .for exmaple i> > > wanted to> > > > > > > know more> > > > > > > > > abt taurus lagna with guru as guru is 8th Lord and his> > > mool> > > > > > > trikon sign> > > > > > > > > also 8th house .> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > any memebrs has any charts ?? I think latha> > > mangeshwar ji> > > > > is> > > > > > > taurus> > > > > > > > > lagna .> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >

> > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004"> > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > dear vijayji> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > your mail with example charts and the lives of the> > > > > natives> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna from your database is

informative> > > and> > > > > > > > > appreciated.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > lord rama has jupiter in lagna. some notable> people> > > with> > > > > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > lagna are as follows:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. bharatratna lata mangeshkar> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. erstwhile mysore maharaja krishnaraja wadiyar> IV> > > > > > > > > > > > 3. tata group founder JRD tata> > > > > > > > > > > > 4. former chief minister and actor N T Ramarao> > >

> > > > > > > > > 5. Sri Aurobindo> > > > > > > > > > > > 6. kanchi sankaracharya sri vijayendra saraswati> > > > > > > > > > > > 7. former prime minister rajiv gandhi> > > > > > > > > > > > 8. emperor akbar> > > > > > > > > > > > 9. emperor aurangazeb> > > > > > > > > > > > 10. tennis star sania mirza> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > the above varied list contains emperors, rajas,> > > prime> > > > > > > minsiters,> > > > > > > > > > > > business tycoons, actors, singers, sportspersons> and> > > > > even> > > > > > >

saints.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an> > > > > > > attractive> > > > > > > > > > > > personality, energetic health, long life,> > > courageous and> > > > > > > > > respectable> > > > > > > > > > > > name.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna is perceived as positive by most> if> > > > > not all> > > > > > > > > > > > astrologers. even those few who say guru spoils> > > lagna by> > > > > > > sitting> > > > > > > > > in> > > > >

> > > > > > > lagna say that his benefic aspect on 5, 7 and 9> > > houses> > > > > (one> > > > > > > > > quadrant> > > > > > > > > > > > and two trines) is auspicious for the native.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > as mentioned by tatvamasiji in one of his mails> > > earlier,> > > > > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > unanimously considered giving positive benfits on> > > all> > > > > the> > > > > > > three> > > > > > > > > > > > houses he aspect.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >

> > > > > > > the title "jeeva" or enlivener is granted by lord> > > shiva> > > > > to> > > > > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > > > > > and naturally jupiter is a natural benefic.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > an axiom says guru in kendra negates one lakh> > > doshams.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > > > > > > > > > > pandit arjun> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > >

, "Vijay"> > > > > > > > > > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Its been long time since I visited the group,> but> > > its> > > > > > > really> > > > > > > > > great> > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > get hundreds of messages in my Inbox. I went> thru> > > > > most of> > > > > > > them> > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > >

> > > > currently started to seriously go thru the files> > > > > section> > > > > > > of this> > > > > > > > > > > > > group, which is really very useful. Regarding> > > Jupiter> > > > > in> > > > > > > Lagna I> > > > > > > > > > > > > searched thru some of my database and found some> > > > > > > interesting> > > > > > > > > cases.> > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, I shall give the details of their birth> and> > > > > their> > > > > > > > > > > > > characteristics rather than important events in> > > their> > > > > > > life,> > > > > > > > >

because> > > > > > > > > > > > > as we all know jupiter in lagna ALONE has little> > > to do> > > > > > > with the> > > > > > > > > > > > > events in their lives. For the events in their> > > lives> > > > > we> > > > > > > have to> > > > > > > > > > > > > consider all other effects, which is out of the> > > scope> > > > > of> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > present> > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion. The persons have clarified with me> > > about> > > > > their> > > > > > > > > > > > characters.> > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. IAS Officer (came with problems in health and> > > > > political> > > > > > > > > problems> > > > > > > > > > > > > in job):> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > June-23-1956, 11.05 am, Gudibanda, India,> 77.41.E,> > > > > > > 13.40.N.> > > > > > > > > > > > > Character: I predicted he is very upright> officer> > > and> > > > > very> > > > > > > > > dynamic> > > > > > > > > > > > > because Jupiter in Leo Lagna makes one not just> > > honest> > > > > > > (which

is> > > > > > > > > > > > why> > > > > > > > > > > > > he was transferred every 2 years by political> > > persons> > > > > and> > > > > > > even> > > > > > > > > got> > > > > > > > > > > > > death threats), but also very dynamic and knows> > > how to> > > > > > > control> > > > > > > > > > > > > people. He was very sweet in speech and very> > > decent> > > > > but> > > > > > > at the> > > > > > > > > same> > > > > > > > > > > > > time he seemed dominating (because Mars in 7th> > > > > house). He> > > > > > >

said> > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > feared in his circle because he is very honest> > > and he> > > > > is> > > > > > > also> > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > scared of goondas and death threats. He was a> > > primary> > > > > > > school> > > > > > > > > > > > teacher> > > > > > > > > > > > > in a village before he became an IAS Officer. He> > > > > seems to> > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely dedicated to work and as he was> > > workoholic>

> > > > he> > > > > > > had> > > > > > > > > health> > > > > > > > > > > > > problems. He was a very good poet and has> > > published a> > > > > > > poetry> > > > > > > > > book> > > > > > > > > > > > > (this was my mother's prediction and he was> > > > > astonished,> > > > > > > even I> > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > astonished). Also the way he speaks is really> > > > > > > astonishing, very> > > > > > > > > > > > clear> > > > > > > > > > > > > and dignified in speech and when he talks you> > > feel

he> > > > > is> > > > > > > really> > > > > > > > > > > > > intelligent and a very dignified person.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. April-16-1986, 03.42, Hubli, India, student.> > > > > > > > > > > > > (parents came with problem of whether he will> > > join a> > > > > > > > > professional> > > > > > > > > > > > > course or not, which my mother predicted he> will,> > > > > seeing> > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > only> > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna but also his good sidhamsha).> But> > > > > >

> character> > > > > > > > > wise,> > > > > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > > seems to be very soft and lively person, and> since> > > > > there> > > > > > > isnt> > > > > > > > > any> > > > > > > > > > > > > direct influence on Jupiter, we can safely say> he> > > is> > > > > very> > > > > > > > > > > > righteous,> > > > > > > > > > > > > and disciplined and respects elders. The parents> > > said> > > > > > > indeed he> > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > a> > > > > > >

> > > > > > very soft-spoken and honest kid and very much> > > > > respects all> > > > > > > > > > > > > traditions. Since he was also running Jupiter> > > dasha,> > > > > he> > > > > > > didnt> > > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > > > > any sort of problems in his education. Also he> > > plays> > > > > > > tabla at> > > > > > > > > > > > various> > > > > > > > > > > > > competitions.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. April-16-1953, 09.10, Bangalore, MLC (Member> of> > > > > > > Legislative> > >

> > > > > > > > > > Council),> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > He came to ask whether he will win election> (MP),> > > but> > > > > my> > > > > > > mother> > > > > > > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > > > > > he will not but he will still be in politics,> and> > > he> > > > > went> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > politics> > > > > > > > > > > > > thru backdoor (became MLC). He is widely known> by> > > > > public> > > > > > > to be> > > > > > > > > > > > >

corrupt and goonda. But my mother said> completely> > > > > > > opposite, that> > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > > is very soft, honest, righteous, does charity> > > works,> > > > > and> > > > > > > sincere> > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > his wife. He was shell-shocked and almost went> > > into> > > > > > > tears. He> > > > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > > was pained at people calling him names, as he> was> > > very> > > > > > > sincere.> > > > > > > > >

He> > > > > > > > > > > > > said he had earned money thru hard work in real> > > estate> > > > > > > business> > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > then was stepping into politics now, but people> > > > > thought> > > > > > > he made> > > > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > > > > that money in politics since he was also> > > uneducated.> > > > > He> > > > > > > is not> > > > > > > > > > > > > involved in even one scandal. He respects> > > everyone and> > > > > > > also does> > > > > > > > > > > > > charity work. But, he

is not educated well. But> > > since> > > > > > > Moon is in> > > > > > > > > > > > > lagna with Jupiter, he is sweet and soft in> > > speech and> > > > > > > has good> > > > > > > > > > > > mind.> > > > > > > > > > > > > But he is also very brave and courageous,> because> > > > > Mars in> > > > > > > own> > > > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > > > > > and Sun exalted. He is known to have dealt with> > > his> > > > > > > enemies in> > > > > > > > > real-> > > > > > > > > > > > > estate business with an iron hand. But its> > >

> > interesting to> > > > > > > see> > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > > is not well educated.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > My Personal Conclusions about Jupiter in Lagna:> > > > > > > > > > > > > a. Jupiter in Lagna definitely makes one have> > > sweet> > > > > and> > > > > > > > > dignified> > > > > > > > > > > > > speech. He talks very sensibly and like a> learned> > > > > person.> > > > > > > > > > > > > b. Respects traditions and elders.> > > > > >

> > > > > > > c. Very knowledgeable (not sure about education> > > > > though).> > > > > > > > > > > > > d. Gives some kind of artistic nature (music,> > > speech,> > > > > > > poetry,> > > > > > > > > etc),> > > > > > > > > > > > > though not like venus.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > , "Sreenadh"> > > > > > > > > > > > >

<sreesog@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us start discussing the effects of Jupiter> > > in> > > > > > > Lagna. The> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lawyers/thread-owners for this thread are Pt.> > > Arjun> > > > > ji> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > Srinivas> > > > > > > > > > > > > ji.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > They have the full right to argue in favor of> > > > > Jupiter> > > > > > > and its> > > > > > > > >

> > > power> > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > produce identifiable results when placed in> > > Lagna.> > > > > Try> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > argue> > > > > > > > > > > > > against> > > > > > > > > > > > > > him or in support of them - validate the> results> > > > > with> > > > > > > your own> > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the charts known to you. I will start the> > > discussion> > > > > > > with> > > > >

> > > > minimum> > > > > > > > > > > > > inputs> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (fro Bhrigu sutra)-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter is present in lagna the native> > > would be> > > > > > > versatile> > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sound or linguistic related knowledge branches> > > such> > > > > as -> > > > > > > > > > > > Vyakarana,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarka, oratory or the like. If Jupiter is in> > > Cancer> > > > > the> > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > > > >

results> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will happen for sure.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter is in Lagna - the native will> have> > > good> > > > > > > longevity> > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > great luck at or after the age of 16 years.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter in Lagna is aspected by malefic> > > > > planets or> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > debilitation or with malefics in enemy house -> > > he> > > > > would> > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > > > > interested

in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing bad deeds. His mind wavering, longevity> -> > > > > middle> > > > > > > age,> > > > > > > > > too> > > > > > > > > > > > much> > > > > > > > > > > > > > travel, egotic, no children, he will discard> his> > > > > > > relatives or> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > relatives may discard him, he will say bad> words> > > > > > > against good> > > > > > > > > > > > > people,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sadness and sufferings will prevail.> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > So, here goes our group - Jupiter Centric.. > > > > > Hurah,> > > > > > > to the> > > > > > > > > > > > > thread of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pt. Arjun ji and Srinivas ji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them> fast> > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Search.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with> > > > > >

> > > > Mobile. Try> > > > > > > > > it now.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > > > Mobile.> > > > > > > Try it now.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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hare ramakrishna ,

dear anantha krishnan ji ,

 

thanks for the mail .pls do the chart and we will b happy to hear ur opinions on chart ,after all we r learning and reserching .

 

Nothing to loose .

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

 

, Anantha Krishnan <anantha_krishnan_98 wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji:> I did not save save my previous chart . I know I used the CHari Ayanamsa and 7.30+ time zone. However, redoing the chart, now the lagna is 2 Cancer 22. Must have punched something wrong.> I withdraw my previous analysis.Sorry for the trouble.> Best wishes> anantha krishnan> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > hare rama krishna ,> dear sree nadh ji ,> > i was also thinking on same lines but was confused .> Hope he will come out with his anlaysis with renewed time zone > > Thanks for clarifying .> > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > > , "Sreenadh" sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > He meant C-Hari (short for Chandra Hari) ayanamsa .. :=) Me too used> > to write CHari to save typing. :=)> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > , "sunil nair"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna,> > >> > > dear anantha krishna ji ,> > >> > >> > >> > > which ayanamsa u r using ,what is this chari ayanamsa --or is it> > > chandra hari ayanamsa .> > >> > >> > >> > > also i feel u r using 8hrs GMT time but its 7.30 hrs GMT those days> > > .Pls read the all posts and re do the chart .> > >> > >> > >> > > thanks for participating> > >> > >> > >> > > regrds sunil nair> > >> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > >> > >> > > , Anantha Krishnan> > > anantha_krishnan_98@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Sheevani Ji and Sunil Ji:> > > > If I use Chari Ayanamsa, I get Gemini lagna 27 deg 42.> > > > This puts Rahu in the ninth house, which is the worst place for it> > to> > > be.> > > > It also answers his problems in the Rahu mahadasa.> > > > Gets married and divorced in Jup dasa; 7L in 10 H (good)and also 7L> > in> > > 6H(not so good) in NAV- answers why he gets married and later it> > breaks> > > up in the same mahadasa. Also it was why he was able to get his law> > > degree in this maha dasa..> > > > Fifth Lord Venus (in charge of progeny among other things) is in the> > > enemy's house, afflicted by Mars- a natural and functional malefic and> > > Ketu, -always interested in taking something away from you, which you> > > desire. This might explain why he has no children.> > > > The current and the next maha dasa is Sa and Me. Both of them are> > > functional benefics and are both well situated in friendly/own home.> > The> > > only problem is that they are both combust, Sat more so than Me.> > > > Next dasa Me which starts in 2012 will be better but of course by> > > then, the prime time would have gone.....> > > > Best wishes> > > > anantha krishnan> > > > sheevani147 sheevani147@ wrote: Dear Sunilji,> > > >> > > > Namaste ji,> > > >> > > > Thank you for your analysis of the chart..> > > >> > > > My personal views are that Rahu mahadasha was the hardest period for> > > > him, lots of frustrations and health problems,, also the period he> > > > started drinking..> > > >> > > > Jupiter MD, so far has been his best period, he was happier in> > > > himself and got his Law degree..> > > >> > > > Regarding his drinking habits,, although like all alcoholics it> > > > started with drinking on a daily basis,, but later( 1990's onwards)> > > > it was more 'binge drinking' meaning he wud not touch alcohol for> > > > many months or even a year or two, then when problems arise,, he> > > > would drink heavily for all day for a week or so and ends up in> > > > hospital. His last drinking episode was in 2006..> > > >> > > > One question, if I may? what in his horoscope denied him of> > > > children,, he loves children very much.> > > >> > > > Many thanks> > > >> > > > Warmest regards> > > > Sheevani> > > >> > > > , "sunil nair"> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > > > >> > > > > dear shivani ji .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I was realy studying the chart with various options and its> > > > realay a> > > > > interesting chart which reveals almost all astro principles known> > > > to me> > > > > .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Nativ has shoola yoga ( sapta grahas in 3 signs) and a spoiled> > gaja> > > > > kesary yoga .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > All most all benefic dasas to lagna has passed already and now> > sani> > > > s> > > > > dasa running who is debilated in amsa .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > rahu in 8th house and sani is debilated (also combust )as 7th Lord> > (> > > > > both contributed a divorse ) also 9th Lord jup in own house and> > > > vakra> > > > > .venus the karaka for marriage afflicted heavily .MOOn is weak as> > > > shukla> > > > > prathama and nite birth .so lagna lord is also weak .> > > > >> > > > > also 2nd house and Lord and karaka ( jup ) afflicted given him> > > > bad> > > > > habbits regrds to drinking as affliction in 2nd house .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > also affected in earning same is with 4th house> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 9th Lord is strong in chart so may be reasons for dependable> > source> > > > of> > > > > support from father .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > coming periods of rahu and jupiter may giv him some work i hope> > tho> > > > main> > > > > period lord is weak .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > also sadesati going on and sani goin tru a weak rasi .also next> > > > maha of> > > > > merc also weak to deliver good results .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 9th Lord of dharma is strong ,so praying vishnu will help him if> > he> > > > can> > > > > reduce drinking habbits .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > regrds sunil nair .> > > > >> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "sheevani147"> > > > > <sheevani147@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sunil ji.> > > > > >> > > > > > Namaste.> > > > > >> > > > > > Sure Sunil ji,, I am happy to share his birth details and events> > > > in> > > > > > his life..> > > > > >> > > > > > Birthdate,, 2nd October 1951,> > > > > > time 01:55 hrs ( past midnight)> > > > > > POB.. Penang, Malaysia..(Timezone +7.5 hrs GMT) u might> > remember!> > > > > > Lagna is cancer..> > > > > >> > > > > > He is good looking, light skin, 5'6 tall. slim built. Very> > > > > > intelligent, soft spoken, though he has a quick temper, which> > > > > > subsides quickly too. although he appears arrogant, but is> > really> > > > > > very friendly and caring.. good communication skills, both> > spoken> > > > and> > > > > > written, good with debates, has good general knowledge.> > > > > >> > > > > > After completing his senior cambridge exams, travelled to India> > in> > > > > > 1968 to study medicine.. spent 2 years in punjab, 2 years in> > > > > > rajasthan, and 2 years in Bombay,, although he passed his exams> > > > but> > > > > > didnt get admission into university.. Got into wrong company,,> > had> > > > > > lots of problems, took to drinking alcohol regularly, sqandered> > > > money> > > > > > and had health issues..> > > > > >> > > > > > Came back to Malaysia in 1974.. Got a job in civil service and> > got> > > > > > married in 1981. Drinking problem continued..lost jobs in> > > > sucession> > > > > > due to his addiction.. No children, divorced in 1992..> > > > > >> > > > > > In 1984, came to UK, studied Law and graduated with LLB in 1989.> > > > > > Started his baristership training but did not complete it.> > > > Returned> > > > > > home in 1991.> > > > > >> > > > > > Remarried in 1996 in India to a young widow with 2 young sons..> > > > > > Had a son of his own in Nov 1998 but child died during> > > > childbirth..> > > > > >> > > > > > After death of child, constant fights between husband and wife> > and> > > > > > finally in 2005 got separation from his wife. Moved to UK in> > 2007,> > > > > > got permanent right to reside in UK.. Currently living with> > > > parents,> > > > > > looking after them.> > > > > >> > > > > > No self made assests, lived off father,s wealth most of his> > life..> > > > > > Tried various businesses and jobs,ended in losses and whenever> > > > > > things got tough, he took to the bottle.. Although he can and> > did> > > > > > work hard for periods, but efforts were not> > consistent..Generally> > > > not> > > > > > been very lucky..> > > > > >> > > > > > He is a wonderful individual to know, not reliable due to> > drinking> > > > > > habits.. He no longer has his drinking addiction, is very> > > > > > spiritual/religious now, does a lot of community work and looks> > > > after> > > > > > his parents well.> > > > > >> > > > > > Warmest regards> > > > > > Sheevani> > > > > >> > > > > > , "sunil nair"> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > dear shivani ji ,> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > can u post the data of ur brother and post what ever known> > > > > > details> > > > > > > to the grp .> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Let us see how they differ each other .Off cource kaal desh> > > > patra> > > > > > > principle apply here and one chart is a male and other is a> > > > feamale> > > > > > and> > > > > > > place of birth is off cource differrent .We r curious to know> > > > how> > > > > > and> > > > > > > what realy happened .> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I got once a similar chart ( differnt data ) ,one is a film> > > > > > producer> > > > > > > and business man from south and other is a unmarried very> > > > beutiful> > > > > > delhi> > > > > > > girl who is working as a manager in a showroom ,and wanted to> > > > know> > > > > > when> > > > > > > she will get married and the male chart i was consulted by> > some> > > > > > relativ> > > > > > > to know abt the success of a 2nd marriage ,after an un> > > > successful> > > > > > lov> > > > > > > marriage and divorce .> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > actualy i dont hav data with me ,off cource its some where in> > > > > > daily> > > > > > > entry books .> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > so pls post the data with ur observation and analysis and> > > > > > comparisons> > > > > > > if possible .> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > >> > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , "sheevani147"> > > > > > > <sheevani147@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Namaste,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > My older brother has identical chart to your mother.. He was> > > > born> > > > > > on> > > > > > > > 2 Oct 1951.. time 01:55 hrs. When I made chart of your> > > > mother,, I> > > > > > > > thought I was seeing double..> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > warmest regards> > > > > > > > Sheevani> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ,> > > > Vijayanarasimha H> > > > > > > > Pakka hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Shreenadhji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply. What you said seems very logical,> > but> > > > even> > > > > > > > after change in Ayanamsha as you suggested and change in> > year> > > > > > length,> > > > > > > > I get the same. She had uterus operation in Sep 30, 2001 and> > > > on> > > > > > Oct> > > > > > > > 8th, she had brain haemorrage in the hospital itself, and> > > > after> > > > > > that> > > > > > > > it was hell for all of us for nearly 3 months. Life seemed> > to> > > > end> > > > > > for> > > > > > > > all of us, and due to Lord Krishna and Lord Narsimha's grace> > > > she> > > > > > was> > > > > > > > brought back to normal life and we all are a happy family> > > > now. My> > > > > > > > life changed after that. She was running Jup-Rahu-Venus> > dasha> > > > > > during> > > > > > > > that time. She was expecting something to happen to her> > lower> > > > > > portion> > > > > > > > of the body during operation (rahu representing legs). We> > were> > > > > > > > expecting something bad because during Rahu mahadasha, from> > > > 1968> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > 1986 (especially 1976-1986), life was hell for my parents> > > > (zero> > > > > > > > income, living in a small house, father working day and> > night> > > > and> > > > > > > > cheated by work partners, mother terribly illtreated from> > in-> > > > laws,> > > > > > > > had abortion, etc). 1986 we shifted to a> > > > > > > > > good house and suddenly all our problems almost vanished,> > > > father> > > > > > > > had a very good income, built 2 houses, established> > industry,> > > > etc> > > > > > > > (she was running jupiter dasha from then). Till 2001 she had> > a> > > > > > very> > > > > > > > good house life. Now, since saturn is in 3rd house, she is> > > > > > enjoying> > > > > > > > life again.> > > > > > > > > DOB: 1-Oct-1951, 02.36 am, Koppal, 76E09, 15N21.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The point here I feel is that, even if malefic planets are> > > > bad> > > > > > > > (like rahu), a good placed jupiter somehow brings good> > > > results to> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > native in the end. Jupiter is indeed life-saving if placed> > > > well> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > has power.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > Vijay.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > > > > > > I will clarify it further -> > > > > > > > > - Jupiter owns 6th house (disease) from Cancer Lagna> > > > > > > > > - Mars owns the head of the Kalapurusha, i.e. Aries> > > > > > > > > - Mars is debilitated in Lagna (cancer) which indicates> > > > > > > > head of the native> > > > > > > > > Where ever Mars be possibly this is a combination that may> > > > give> > > > > > > > disease or trouble. If there is malefic in Cancer> > (especially> > > > > > Ketu)> > > > > > > > it could even give a minor heart attack in that period.> > > > Therefore> > > > > > > > considering the pointer Jupiter provides towards disease and> > > > the> > > > > > > > repeated pointers Mars provides towards head - it is clear> > > > that> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > said period should be Ju/Ma.> > > > > > > > > And that is why the guess, you must be getting it wrong,> > > > due to> > > > > > > > the use of wrong Ayanamsa and year length. It is such> > examples> > > > > > that> > > > > > > > helps us to verify the validity of the Ayanamsa and year> > > > length we> > > > > > > > use in a practical perspective.> > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ,> > "Sreenadh"> > > > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Re: Jupiter (Thread owners - Pt. Arjun ji, Sreenivas ji)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > > > > > > ==>> > > > > > > > > > My mother has jupiter in 9th house in pisces and rahu in> > > > 8th,> > > > > > she> > > > > > > > had brain-haemorrhage in> > > > > > > > > > jup dasha-rahu bhukthi> > > > > > > > > <==> > > > > > > > > This statement must be wrong - with the ownership of Aries> > > > (the> > > > > > > > head of Kalapurusha), it should be Jupiter dasa-Mars antara;> > > > > > please> > > > > > > > use CHari Ayanamsa (46 min more than Lahari) and 360 day> > > > Savana> > > > > > year> > > > > > > > and let me know whether this assumption is correct or not.> > > > Also> > > > > > > > please inform where Mars is placed in the chart.> > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ,> > > > > > Vijayanarasimha> > > > > > > > H Pakka> > > > > > > > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: Jupiter (Thread> > > > owners -> > > > > > Pt.> > > > > > > > Arjun> > > > > > > > > > ji, Sreenivas ji)> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunilji / Shreenadhji, Its very interesting (or> > > > obvious)> > > > > > how> > > > > > > > > > malefic planets affect jupiter. We can also view the> > > > chart as> > > > > > > > benefic> > > > > > > > > > jupiter reducing the malefic effect of rahu and we get> > > > mixed> > > > > > > > results> > > > > > > > > > Anyway the more complications with jupiter, the more> > > > > > discussions> > > > > > > > we can> > > > > > > > > > have. Maybe malefic-uninfluenced and powerful jupiter is> > > > the> > > > > > one> > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > > truly makes the native famous, righteous, king-like,> > etc.> > > > I> > > > > > would> > > > > > > > rather> > > > > > > > > > say from experience that, if for example the native has> > > > some> > > > > > bad> > > > > > > > > > placements of other planets but has a good placement and> > > > > > strength> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > jupiter, he suffers sometimes but finally he emerges> > > > > > victorious.> > > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > > should be the approach a practical astrologer should> > take> > > > > > while> > > > > > > > > > predicting results, rather than jumping guns to proclaim> > > > that> > > > > > a> > > > > > > > good> > > > > > > > > > jupiter (or in lagna) will make the native king-like. My> > > > > > mother> > > > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > > jupiter in 9th house in pisces and rahu in 8th, she had> > > > > > > > > > brain-haemorrhage in jup dasha-rahu bhukthi (also> > jupiter> > > > was> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > ghataka> > > > > > > > > > sthana in 10th house from moon in transit), but she> > > > recovered> > > > > > > > > > fantastically and is perfectly fine (taking some regular> > > > > > tablets)> > > > > > > > now.> > > > > > > > > > So, dangers are there due to some planets but if some> > > > other> > > > > > > > planets,> > > > > > > > > > especially jupiter is good in one's chart, then the> > final> > > > > > victory> > > > > > > > is to> > > > > > > > > > the native. Regarding winding up the jupiter in lagna> > > > thread,> > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > > seems a big job if we start considering the effects of> > > > > > jupiter in> > > > > > > > each> > > > > > > > > > lagna and also influence of each planet on jupiter in> > > > lagna.> > > > > > Then> > > > > > > > we get> > > > > > > > > > innumerable combinations to deal with , example: 1.> > > > Jupiter in> > > > > > > > Aries> > > > > > > > > > lagna, uninfluenced> > > > > > > > > > 2. Jupiter in Aries lagna, influenced by saturn, 3.> > > > Jupiter in> > > > > > > > Aries> > > > > > > > > > lagna influenced by sun, etc. Also we should keep in> > mind> > > > the> > > > > > > > strength> > > > > > > > > > and placement of lagna lord. With so many combinations,> > I> > > > can> > > > > > say> > > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > > will take more than 1 year to discuss all these cases> > > > Anyway,> > > > > > as a> > > > > > > > > > practical approach, its more than enough if we wind up> > > > with> > > > > > > > jupiter's> > > > > > > > > > effects in various lagnas; and just mention as an> > > > important> > > > > > > > footnote to> > > > > > > > > > be careful to look out for influences of other planets> > and> > > > > > > > placement of> > > > > > > > > > lagna lord Finally, if Shreenadhji / Suniji / Neelamji /> > > > or> > > > > > any> > > > > > > > other> > > > > > > > > > member throw some light (along with any verses) on> > > > jupiter's> > > > > > > > effects in> > > > > > > > > > various lagnas on one's artistic skills and when> > > > influenced by> > > > > > > > other> > > > > > > > > > planets, I would be grateful. From experience I find it> > > > > > difficult> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > estimate the artistic value of jupiter , maybe because> > my> > > > > > lagna> > > > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > > venus, who is enemy of Jupiter Regards, Vijay.>> > > > > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna ,> > > > > > > > > > > dear maligere ji ,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Jup is not alone in lagna but with a dire malefic rahu> > > > ( in> > > > > > > > north its> > > > > > > > > > knows as guru chandal yoga ) .So rsults attributed to> > > > single> > > > > > jup> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > lagna how is it possible .> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > also sani and mars forming agni maruta yoga ( so the> > > > houses> > > > > > > > involved> > > > > > > > > > can suffer ) also this yoga has no benefic aspects . ( u> > > > hav> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > giv us> > > > > > > > > > feed back ) .> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > also born in jup -merc period .then this sat dasa (> > Athi> > > > > > > > balavasta or> > > > > > > > > > atma karaka planet ) ( tho yoga karaka ) also in marak> > > > house> > > > > > then> > > > > > > > merc (> > > > > > > > > > 64th navamsa and 22nd drekkana Lord) and then ketu in> > 7th> > > > > > dasa (> > > > > > > > another> > > > > > > > > > maraka place ) ,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > But i think he must hav born in good family ??> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > giv us ur feed back with full detailed analsysis .> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > any way jup in lagna is not applicable as other> > > > influnces r> > > > > > > > there .> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah .> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > , "M.A"> > > > > > maligere@> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunilji,pundit ji> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > This is the details of a person who has jupiter in> > > > lagna,> > > > > > i> > > > > > > > have not> > > > > > > > > > seen any of the benefits that is been discussed here in> > > > this> > > > > > > > thread for> > > > > > > > > > this person. I can say he has seen nothing but> > > > difficulties in> > > > > > > > life, his> > > > > > > > > > health is also nothing to boast about.> > > > > > > > > > > > " saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an> > > > > > > > attractive> > > > > > > > > > personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and> > > > > > > > espectable> > > > > > > > > > name"> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > This statement is totally opposite of what i have> > > > seen in> > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > persons life> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Name : Sreenivas> > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > September 9, 1958> > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 10:10:00 am> > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 76 E 05' 00", 13 N 00' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > > Hassan, India> > > > > > > > > > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > > > > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vilamba - Nija Sravana> > > > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (77.75% left)> > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)> > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (59.56% left)> > > > > > > > > > > > Yoga: Variyan (Ju) (89.14% left)> > > > > > > > > > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (55.51% left)> > > > > > > > > > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Cn)> > > > > > > > > > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> > > > > > > > > > > > Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)> > > > > > > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:18:07 am> > > > > > > > > > > > Sunset: 6:28:06 pm> > > > > > > > > > > > Janma Ghatis: 9.6618> > > > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-16-55.29> > > > > > > > > > > > Sidereal Time: 8:55:15> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx n' rgds> > > > > > > > > > > > Maligere> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > > > > > > > > > > > dear pundit ji ,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > yes ,it says guru lagna can counter 1 crore doshas -> > > > > > laksham> > > > > > > > dosham> > > > > > > > > > guru hanti .> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > what if its in actual experiences .for exmaple i> > > > wanted to> > > > > > > > know more> > > > > > > > > > abt taurus lagna with guru as guru is 8th Lord and his> > > > mool> > > > > > > > trikon sign> > > > > > > > > > also 8th house .> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > any memebrs has any charts ?? I think latha> > > > mangeshwar ji> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > taurus> > > > > > > > > > lagna .> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004"> > > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > dear vijayji> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > your mail with example charts and the lives of the> > > > > > natives> > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna from your database is informative> > > > and> > > > > > > > > > appreciated.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > lord rama has jupiter in lagna. some notable> > people> > > > with> > > > > > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > lagna are as follows:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. bharatratna lata mangeshkar> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. erstwhile mysore maharaja krishnaraja wadiyar> > IV> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. tata group founder JRD tata> > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. former chief minister and actor N T Ramarao> > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sri Aurobindo> > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. kanchi sankaracharya sri vijayendra saraswati> > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. former prime minister rajiv gandhi> > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. emperor akbar> > > > > > > > > > > > > 9. emperor aurangazeb> > > > > > > > > > > > > 10. tennis star sania mirza> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > the above varied list contains emperors, rajas,> > > > prime> > > > > > > > minsiters,> > > > > > > > > > > > > business tycoons, actors, singers, sportspersons> > and> > > > > > even> > > > > > > > saints.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an> > > > > > > > attractive> > > > > > > > > > > > > personality, energetic health, long life,> > > > courageous and> > > > > > > > > > respectable> > > > > > > > > > > > > name.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna is perceived as positive by most> > if> > > > > > not all> > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologers. even those few who say guru spoils> > > > lagna by> > > > > > > > sitting> > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > lagna say that his benefic aspect on 5, 7 and 9> > > > houses> > > > > > (one> > > > > > > > > > quadrant> > > > > > > > > > > > > and two trines) is auspicious for the native.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > as mentioned by tatvamasiji in one of his mails> > > > earlier,> > > > > > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > unanimously considered giving positive benfits on> > > > all> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > three> > > > > > > > > > > > > houses he aspect.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > the title "jeeva" or enlivener is granted by lord> > > > shiva> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > > > > > > and naturally jupiter is a natural benefic.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > an axiom says guru in kendra negates one lakh> > > > doshams.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > > > > > > > > > > > pandit arjun> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > , "Vijay"> > > > > > > > > > > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its been long time since I visited the group,> > but> > > > its> > > > > > > > really> > > > > > > > > > great> > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > get hundreds of messages in my Inbox. I went> > thru> > > > > > most of> > > > > > > > them> > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > currently started to seriously go thru the files> > > > > > section> > > > > > > > of this> > > > > > > > > > > > > > group, which is really very useful. Regarding> > > > Jupiter> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > Lagna I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > searched thru some of my database and found some> > > > > > > > interesting> > > > > > > > > > cases.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, I shall give the details of their birth> > and> > > > > > their> > > > > > > > > > > > > > characteristics rather than important events in> > > > their> > > > > > > > life,> > > > > > > > > > because> > > > > > > > > > > > > > as we all know jupiter in lagna ALONE has little> > > > to do> > > > > > > > with the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > events in their lives. For the events in their> > > > lives> > > > > > we> > > > > > > > have to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > consider all other effects, which is out of the> > > > scope> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > present> > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion. The persons have clarified with me> > > > about> > > > > > their> > > > > > > > > > > > > characters.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. IAS Officer (came with problems in health and> > > > > > political> > > > > > > > > > problems> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in job):> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > June-23-1956, 11.05 am, Gudibanda, India,> > 77.41.E,> > > > > > > > 13.40.N.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Character: I predicted he is very upright> > officer> > > > and> > > > > > very> > > > > > > > > > dynamic> > > > > > > > > > > > > > because Jupiter in Leo Lagna makes one not just> > > > honest> > > > > > > > (which is> > > > > > > > > > > > > why> > > > > > > > > > > > > > he was transferred every 2 years by political> > > > persons> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > even> > > > > > > > > > got> > > > > > > > > > > > > > death threats), but also very dynamic and knows> > > > how to> > > > > > > > control> > > > > > > > > > > > > > people. He was very sweet in speech and very> > > > decent> > > > > > but> > > > > > > > at the> > > > > > > > > > same> > > > > > > > > > > > > > time he seemed dominating (because Mars in 7th> > > > > > house). He> > > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > feared in his circle because he is very honest> > > > and he> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > also> > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > scared of goondas and death threats. He was a> > > > primary> > > > > > > > school> > > > > > > > > > > > > teacher> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a village before he became an IAS Officer. He> > > > > > seems to> > > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely dedicated to work and as he was> > > > workoholic> > > > > > he> > > > > > > > had> > > > > > > > > > health> > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems. He was a very good poet and has> > > > published a> > > > > > > > poetry> > > > > > > > > > book> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (this was my mother's prediction and he was> > > > > > astonished,> > > > > > > > even I> > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > > astonished). Also the way he speaks is really> > > > > > > > astonishing, very> > > > > > > > > > > > > clear> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and dignified in speech and when he talks you> > > > feel he> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > really> > > > > > > > > > > > > > intelligent and a very dignified person.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. April-16-1986, 03.42, Hubli, India, student.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (parents came with problem of whether he will> > > > join a> > > > > > > > > > professional> > > > > > > > > > > > > > course or not, which my mother predicted he> > will,> > > > > > seeing> > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > only> > > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna but also his good sidhamsha).> > But> > > > > > > > character> > > > > > > > > > wise,> > > > > > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems to be very soft and lively person, and> > since> > > > > > there> > > > > > > > isnt> > > > > > > > > > any> > > > > > > > > > > > > > direct influence on Jupiter, we can safely say> > he> > > > is> > > > > > very> > > > > > > > > > > > > righteous,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and disciplined and respects elders. The parents> > > > said> > > > > > > > indeed he> > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > very soft-spoken and honest kid and very much> > > > > > respects all> > > > > > > > > > > > > > traditions. Since he was also running Jupiter> > > > dasha,> > > > > > he> > > > > > > > didnt> > > > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > > > > > any sort of problems in his education. Also he> > > > plays> > > > > > > > tabla at> > > > > > > > > > > > > various> > > > > > > > > > > > > > competitions.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. April-16-1953, 09.10, Bangalore, MLC (Member> > of> > > > > > > > Legislative> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Council),> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > He came to ask whether he will win election> > (MP),> > > > but> > > > > > my> > > > > > > > mother> > > > > > > > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > > > > > > he will not but he will still be in politics,> > and> > > > he> > > > > > went> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > politics> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thru backdoor (became MLC). He is widely known> > by> > > > > > public> > > > > > > > to be> > > > > > > > > > > > > > corrupt and goonda. But my mother said> > completely> > > > > > > > opposite, that> > > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is very soft, honest, righteous, does charity> > > > works,> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > sincere> > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > his wife. He was shell-shocked and almost went> > > > into> > > > > > > > tears. He> > > > > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > > > was pained at people calling him names, as he> > was> > > > very> > > > > > > > sincere.> > > > > > > > > > He> > > > > > > > > > > > > > said he had earned money thru hard work in real> > > > estate> > > > > > > > business> > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > then was stepping into politics now, but people> > > > > > thought> > > > > > > > he made> > > > > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that money in politics since he was also> > > > uneducated.> > > > > > He> > > > > > > > is not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > involved in even one scandal. He respects> > > > everyone and> > > > > > > > also does> > > > > > > > > > > > > > charity work. But, he is not educated well. But> > > > since> > > > > > > > Moon is in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagna with Jupiter, he is sweet and soft in> > > > speech and> > > > > > > > has good> > > > > > > > > > > > > mind.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But he is also very brave and courageous,> > because> > > > > > Mars in> > > > > > > > own> > > > > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Sun exalted. He is known to have dealt with> > > > his> > > > > > > > enemies in> > > > > > > > > > real-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > estate business with an iron hand. But its> > > > > > interesting to> > > > > > > > see> > > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not well educated.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Personal Conclusions about Jupiter in Lagna:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a. Jupiter in Lagna definitely makes one have> > > > sweet> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > dignified> > > > > > > > > > > > > > speech. He talks very sensibly and like a> > learned> > > > > > person.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > b. Respects traditions and elders.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > c. Very knowledgeable (not sure about education> > > > > > though).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > d. Gives some kind of artistic nature (music,> > > > speech,> > > > > > > > poetry,> > > > > > > > > > etc),> > > > > > > > > > > > > > though not like venus.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > > , "Sreenadh"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us start discussing the effects of Jupiter> > > > in> > > > > > > > Lagna. The> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lawyers/thread-owners for this thread are Pt.> > > > Arjun> > > > > > ji> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > Srinivas> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ji.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They have the full right to argue in favor of> > > > > > Jupiter> > > > > > > > and its> > > > > > > > > > > > > power> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > produce identifiable results when placed in> > > > Lagna.> > > > > > Try> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > argue> > > > > > > > > > > > > > against> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > him or in support of them - validate the> > results> > > > > > with> > > > > > > > your own> > > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the charts known to you. I will start the> > > > discussion> > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > minimum> > > > > > > > > > > > > > inputs> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (fro Bhrigu sutra)-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter is present in lagna the native> > > > would be> > > > > > > > versatile> > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sound or linguistic related knowledge branches> > > > such> > > > > > as -> > > > > > > > > > > > > Vyakarana,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarka, oratory or the like. If Jupiter is in> > > > Cancer> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > > > > > results> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will happen for sure.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter is in Lagna - the native will> > have> > > > good> > > > > > > > longevity> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > great luck at or after the age of 16 years.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter in Lagna is aspected by malefic> > > > > > planets or> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > debilitation or with malefics in enemy house -> > > > he> > > > > > would> > > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > > > > > interested in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing bad deeds. His mind wavering, longevity> > -> > > > > > middle> > > > > > > > age,> > > > > > > > > > too> > > > > > > > > > > > > much> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > travel, egotic, no children, he will discard> > his> > > > > > > > relatives or> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > relatives may discard him, he will say bad> > words> > > > > > > > against good> > > > > > > > > > > > > > people,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sadness and sufferings will prevail.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, here goes our group - Jupiter Centric.. > > > > > > Hurah,> > > > > > > > to the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thread of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pt. Arjun ji and Srinivas ji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them> > fast> > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Search.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with> > > > > > > > > > > > Mobile. Try> > > > > > > > > > it now.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > > > > Mobile.> > > > > > > > Try it now.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Vijay ji,Normally, everybody uses Chitra Paksha Ayanamsa(Lahiri). I understand from this group,Chandrahari Ayanamsa (not much different), is more accurate in predictions. To get this, if you use JHora software, (7.0), go to preferences,drop down and check related to calculations, check Ayanamsa and pull down custom (user defined) and enter 0 deg 46 min and 0 sec and select "more than Lahiri". Hit OK.Hope this helpsanantha krishnanVijayanarasimha H Pakka <hpvijaynarasimha wrote: Dear Ananthji,Quite interesting find. But how do

we in general determine which ayanamsha to use. I am confused over this.Regards,Vijay.Anantha Krishnan <anantha_krishnan_98 > wrote: Dear Sheevani Ji and Sunil Ji:If I use Chari Ayanamsa, I get Gemini lagna 27 deg 42.This puts Rahu in the ninth house, which is the worst place for it to be.It also answers his problems in the Rahu mahadasa.Gets married and divorced in Jup dasa; 7L in 10 H (good)and also 7L in 6H(not so good) in NAV- answers why he gets married and later it breaks up in the same mahadasa. Also it was why he was able to get his law degree in this maha dasa..Fifth Lord Venus (in charge of progeny among other things) is in the enemy's house, afflicted by Mars- a natural and functional malefic and Ketu, -always interested in taking something

away from you, which you desire. This might explain why he has no children. The current and the next maha dasa is Sa and Me. Both of them are functional benefics and are both well situated in friendly/own home. The only problem is that they are both combust, Sat more so than Me.Next dasa Me which starts in 2012 will be better but of course by then, the prime time would have gone.....Best wishesanantha krishnansheevani147 <sheevani147 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Sunilji, Namaste ji, Thank you for your analysis of the chart.. My personal views are that Rahu mahadasha was the hardest period for him, lots of frustrations and health problems,, also the period he started drinking.. Jupiter MD, so far has been his best period, he was happier in

himself and got his Law degree.. Regarding his drinking habits,, although like all alcoholics it started with drinking on a daily basis,, but later( 1990's onwards) it was more 'binge drinking' meaning he wud not touch alcohol for many months or even a year or two, then when problems arise,, he would drink heavily for all day for a week or so and ends up in hospital. His last drinking episode was in 2006.. One question, if I may? what in his horoscope denied him of children,, he loves children very much. Many thanks Warmest regards Sheevani , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > Hare rama krishna , > > dear shivani ji . > > > > I was realy studying

the chart with various options and its realay a > interesting chart which reveals almost all astro principles known to me > . > > > > Nativ has shoola yoga ( sapta grahas in 3 signs) and a spoiled gaja > kesary yoga . > > > > All most all benefic dasas to lagna has passed already and now sani s > dasa running who is debilated in amsa . > > > > rahu in 8th house and sani is debilated (also combust )as 7th Lord ( > both contributed a divorse ) also 9th Lord jup in own house and vakra > .venus the karaka for marriage afflicted heavily .MOOn is weak as shukla > prathama and nite birth .so lagna lord is also weak . > > also 2nd house and Lord and karaka ( jup ) afflicted given him bad > habbits regrds to drinking as affliction in 2nd house . > > > >

also affected in earning same is with 4th house > > > > 9th Lord is strong in chart so may be reasons for dependable source of > support from father . > > > > coming periods of rahu and jupiter may giv him some work i hope tho main > period lord is weak . > > > > also sadesati going on and sani goin tru a weak rasi .also next maha of > merc also weak to deliver good results . > > > > > > 9th Lord of dharma is strong ,so praying vishnu will help him if he can > reduce drinking habbits . > > > > regrds sunil nair . > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > ,

"sheevani147" > <sheevani147@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji. > > > > Namaste. > > > > Sure Sunil ji,, I am happy to share his birth details and events in > > his life.. > > > > Birthdate,, 2nd October 1951, > > time 01:55 hrs ( past midnight) > > POB.. Penang, Malaysia..(Timezone +7.5 hrs GMT) u might remember! > > Lagna is cancer.. > > > > He is good looking, light skin, 5'6 tall. slim built. Very > > intelligent, soft spoken, though he has a quick temper, which > > subsides quickly too. although he appears arrogant, but is really > > very friendly and caring.. good communication skills, both spoken and > > written, good with debates, has good general knowledge. > > > > After completing his senior cambridge exams, travelled to India

in > > 1968 to study medicine.. spent 2 years in punjab, 2 years in > > rajasthan, and 2 years in Bombay,, although he passed his exams but > > didnt get admission into university.. Got into wrong company,, had > > lots of problems, took to drinking alcohol regularly, sqandered money > > and had health issues.. > > > > Came back to Malaysia in 1974.. Got a job in civil service and got > > married in 1981. Drinking problem continued..lost jobs in sucession > > due to his addiction.. No children, divorced in 1992.. > > > > In 1984, came to UK, studied Law and graduated with LLB in 1989. > > Started his baristership training but did not complete it. Returned > > home in 1991. > > > > Remarried in 1996 in India to a young widow with 2 young sons.. > > Had a son of his own in Nov 1998 but child died

during childbirth.. > > > > After death of child, constant fights between husband and wife and > > finally in 2005 got separation from his wife. Moved to UK in 2007, > > got permanent right to reside in UK.. Currently living with parents, > > looking after them. > > > > No self made assests, lived off father,s wealth most of his life.. > > Tried various businesses and jobs,ended in losses and whenever > > things got tough, he took to the bottle.. Although he can and did > > work hard for periods, but efforts were not consistent..Generally not > > been very lucky.. > > > > He is a wonderful individual to know, not reliable due to drinking > > habits.. He no longer has his drinking addiction, is very > > spiritual/religious now, does a lot of community work and looks after > > his parents

well. > > > > Warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > , "sunil nair" > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna , > > > > > > dear shivani ji , > > > > > > > > > > > > can u post the data of ur brother and post what ever known > > details > > > to the grp . > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us see how they differ each other .Off cource kaal desh patra > > > principle apply here and one chart is a male and other is a feamale > > and > > > place of birth is off cource differrent .We r curious to know

how > > and > > > what realy happened . > > > > > > > > > > > > I got once a similar chart ( differnt data ) ,one is a film > > producer > > > and business man from south and other is a unmarried very beutiful > > delhi > > > girl who is working as a manager in a showroom ,and wanted to know > > when > > > she will get married and the male chart i was consulted by some > > relativ > > > to know abt the success of a 2nd marriage ,after an un successful > > lov > > > marriage and divorce . > > > > > > > > > > > > actualy i dont hav data with me ,off cource its some where in > > daily > > > entry books . > > > > > > > > > > > > so pls post the data

with ur observation and analysis and > > comparisons > > > if possible . > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "sheevani147" > > > <sheevani147@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > My older brother has identical chart to your mother.. He was born > > on > > > > 2 Oct 1951.. time 01:55 hrs. When I made chart of your mother,, I > > > > thought I was seeing double.. > > >

> > > > > warmest regards > > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > , Vijayanarasimha H > > > > Pakka hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shreenadhji, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply. What you said seems very logical, but even > > > > after change in Ayanamsha as you suggested and change in year > > length, > > > > I get the same. She had uterus operation in Sep 30, 2001 and on > > Oct > > > > 8th, she had brain haemorrage in the hospital itself, and after > > that > > > > it was hell for all of us for nearly 3 months. Life seemed to end > > for

> > > > all of us, and due to Lord Krishna and Lord Narsimha's grace she > > was > > > > brought back to normal life and we all are a happy family now. My > > > > life changed after that. She was running Jup-Rahu-Venus dasha > > during > > > > that time. She was expecting something to happen to her lower > > portion > > > > of the body during operation (rahu representing legs). We were > > > > expecting something bad because during Rahu mahadasha, from 1968 > > to > > > > 1986 (especially 1976-1986), life was hell for my parents (zero > > > > income, living in a small house, father working day and night and > > > > cheated by work partners, mother terribly illtreated from in- laws, > > > > had abortion, etc). 1986 we shifted to a > > >

> > good house and suddenly all our problems almost vanished, father > > > > had a very good income, built 2 houses, established industry, etc > > > > (she was running jupiter dasha from then). Till 2001 she had a > > very > > > > good house life. Now, since saturn is in 3rd house, she is > > enjoying > > > > life again. > > > > > DOB: 1-Oct-1951, 02.36 am, Koppal, 76E09, 15N21. > > > > > > > > > > The point here I feel is that, even if malefic planets are bad > > > > (like rahu), a good placed jupiter somehow brings good results to > > the > > > > native in the end. Jupiter is indeed life-saving if placed well > > and > > > > has power. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > >

Vijay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > Dear Vijay ji, > > > > > I will clarify it further - > > > > > - Jupiter owns 6th house (disease) from Cancer Lagna > > > > > - Mars owns the head of the Kalapurusha, i.e. Aries > > > > > - Mars is debilitated in Lagna (cancer) which indicates > > > > head of the native > > > > > Where ever Mars be possibly this is a combination that may give > > > > disease or trouble. If there is malefic in Cancer (especially > > Ketu) > > > > it could even give a minor heart attack in that period. Therefore > > > > considering the pointer Jupiter provides towards disease and the > > > > repeated pointers Mars provides towards head - it is

clear that > > the > > > > said period should be Ju/Ma. > > > > > And that is why the guess, you must be getting it wrong, due to > > > > the use of wrong Ayanamsa and year length. It is such examples > > that > > > > helps us to verify the validity of the Ayanamsa and year length we > > > > use in a practical perspective. > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > , "Sreenadh" > > > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > Re: Jupiter (Thread owners - Pt. Arjun ji, Sreenivas ji) > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji, > > > > > ==> > > >

> > > My mother has jupiter in 9th house in pisces and rahu in 8th, > > she > > > > had brain-haemorrhage in > > > > > > jup dasha-rahu bhukthi > > > > > <== > > > > > This statement must be wrong - with the ownership of Aries (the > > > > head of Kalapurusha), it should be Jupiter dasa-Mars antara; > > please > > > > use CHari Ayanamsa (46 min more than Lahari) and 360 day Savana > > year > > > > and let me know whether this assumption is correct or not. Also > > > > please inform where Mars is placed in the chart. > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > Vijayanarasimha > > > > H Pakka > > > > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote: > > > > > > Re: Re: Jupiter (Thread owners - > > Pt. > > > > Arjun > > > > > > ji, Sreenivas ji) > > > > > > Dear Sunilji / Shreenadhji, Its very interesting (or obvious) > > how > > > > > > malefic planets affect jupiter. We can also view the chart as > > > > benefic > > > > > > jupiter reducing the malefic effect of rahu and we get mixed > > > > results > > > > > > Anyway the more complications with jupiter, the more > > discussions > > > > we can > >

> > > > have. Maybe malefic-uninfluenced and powerful jupiter is the > > one > > > > which > > > > > > truly makes the native famous, righteous, king-like, etc. I > > would > > > > rather > > > > > > say from experience that, if for example the native has some > > bad > > > > > > placements of other planets but has a good placement and > > strength > > > > of > > > > > > jupiter, he suffers sometimes but finally he emerges > > victorious. > > > > This > > > > > > should be the approach a practical astrologer should take > > while > > > > > > predicting results, rather than jumping guns to proclaim that > > a > > > > good > > > > > >

jupiter (or in lagna) will make the native king-like. My > > mother > > > > has > > > > > > jupiter in 9th house in pisces and rahu in 8th, she had > > > > > > brain-haemorrhage in jup dasha-rahu bhukthi (also jupiter was > > in > > > > ghataka > > > > > > sthana in 10th house from moon in transit), but she recovered > > > > > > fantastically and is perfectly fine (taking some regular > > tablets) > > > > now. > > > > > > So, dangers are there due to some planets but if some other > > > > planets, > > > > > > especially jupiter is good in one's chart, then the final > > victory > > > > is to > > > > > > the native. Regarding winding up the jupiter in lagna thread, > >

it > > > > > > seems a big job if we start considering the effects of > > jupiter in > > > > each > > > > > > lagna and also influence of each planet on jupiter in lagna. > > Then > > > > we get > > > > > > innumerable combinations to deal with , example: 1. Jupiter in > > > > Aries > > > > > > lagna, uninfluenced > > > > > > 2. Jupiter in Aries lagna, influenced by saturn, 3. Jupiter in > > > > Aries > > > > > > lagna influenced by sun, etc. Also we should keep in mind the > > > > strength > > > > > > and placement of lagna lord. With so many combinations, I can > > say > > > > it > > > > > > will take more than 1 year to discuss all these cases

Anyway, > > as a > > > > > > practical approach, its more than enough if we wind up with > > > > jupiter's > > > > > > effects in various lagnas; and just mention as an important > > > > footnote to > > > > > > be careful to look out for influences of other planets and > > > > placement of > > > > > > lagna lord Finally, if Shreenadhji / Suniji / Neelamji / or > > any > > > > other > > > > > > member throw some light (along with any verses) on jupiter's > > > > effects in > > > > > > various lagnas on one's artistic skills and when influenced by > > > > other > > > > > > planets, I would be grateful. From experience I find it > > difficult > > > >

to > > > > > > estimate the artistic value of jupiter , maybe because my > > lagna > > > > has > > > > > > venus, who is enemy of Jupiter Regards, Vijay.> > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna , > > > > > > > dear maligere ji , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jup is not alone in lagna but with a dire malefic rahu ( in > > > > north its > > > > > > knows as guru chandal yoga ) .So rsults attributed to single > > jup > > > > in > > > > > > lagna how is it possible . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also sani and mars forming agni maruta yoga ( so the houses > > > > involved > > > > > > can suffer ) also this yoga has no benefic

aspects . ( u hav > > to > > > > giv us > > > > > > feed back ) . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also born in jup -merc period .then this sat dasa ( Athi > > > > balavasta or > > > > > > atma karaka planet ) ( tho yoga karaka ) also in marak house > > then > > > > merc ( > > > > > > 64th navamsa and 22nd drekkana Lord) and then ketu in 7th > > dasa ( > > > > another > > > > > > maraka place ) , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But i think he must hav born in good family ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > giv us ur feed back with full detailed analsysis . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any way jup in

lagna is not applicable as other influnces r > > > > there . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "M.A" > > maligere@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunilji,pundit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the details of a person who has jupiter in lagna, > > i > > > > have not > > > > > > seen any of the benefits that is been discussed here in this >

> > > thread for > > > > > > this person. I can say he has seen nothing but difficulties in > > > > life, his > > > > > > health is also nothing to boast about. > > > > > > > > " saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an > > > > attractive > > > > > > personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and > > > > espectable > > > > > > name" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This statement is totally opposite of what i have seen in > > this > > > > > > persons life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name : Sreenivas > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > September 9, 1958

> > > > > > > > Time: 10:10:00 am > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > Place: 76 E 05' 00", 13 N 00' 00" > > > > > > > > Hassan, India > > > > > > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vilamba - Nija Sravana > > > > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (77.75% left) > > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma) > > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (59.56% left) > > > > > > > > Yoga: Variyan (Ju) (89.14% left) > > > > > > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (55.51% left) > > > > > > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Cn) > > > > > > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta) >

> > > > > > > Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury) > > > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:18:07 am > > > > > > > > Sunset: 6:28:06 pm > > > > > > > > Janma Ghatis: 9.6618 > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-16-55.29 > > > > > > > > Sidereal Time: 8:55:15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx n' rgds > > > > > > > > Maligere > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna , > > > > > > > > dear pundit ji , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes ,it says guru lagna can counter 1 crore

doshas - > > laksham > > > > dosham > > > > > > guru hanti . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what if its in actual experiences .for exmaple i wanted to > > > > know more > > > > > > abt taurus lagna with guru as guru is 8th Lord and his mool > > > > trikon sign > > > > > > also 8th house . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any memebrs has any charts ?? I think latha mangeshwar ji > > is > > > > taurus > > > > > > lagna . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > > > > > panditarjun2004@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear vijayji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your mail with example charts and the lives of the > > natives > > > > with > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna from your database is informative and > > > > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lord rama has jupiter in lagna. some notable people with > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > lagna are as follows: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. bharatratna lata mangeshkar > > > > > > > > > 2. erstwhile mysore maharaja krishnaraja wadiyar IV > > > > > > > > > 3. tata group founder JRD tata > > > > > > > > > 4. former chief minister and actor N T Ramarao > > > > > > > > > 5. Sri Aurobindo > > > > > > > > > 6. kanchi sankaracharya sri vijayendra saraswati > > > > > > > > > 7. former prime minister rajiv gandhi > > > > > > > > > 8. emperor akbar > > > > > > > > > 9. emperor aurangazeb > > > > > > > > > 10. tennis star sania mirza >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the above varied list contains emperors, rajas, prime > > > > minsiters, > > > > > > > > > business tycoons, actors, singers, sportspersons and > > even > > > > saints. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an > > > > attractive > > > > > > > > > personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and > > > > > > respectable > > > > > > > > > name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna is perceived as positive by most if > > not all > > > > > > > > > astrologers. even those few who

say guru spoils lagna by > > > > sitting > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > lagna say that his benefic aspect on 5, 7 and 9 houses > > (one > > > > > > quadrant > > > > > > > > > and two trines) is auspicious for the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as mentioned by tatvamasiji in one of his mails earlier, > > > > jupiter > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > unanimously considered giving positive benfits on all > > the > > > > three > > > > > > > > > houses he aspect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the title "jeeva" or enlivener is granted by lord shiva >

> to > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > and naturally jupiter is a natural benefic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an axiom says guru in kendra negates one lakh doshams. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Vijay" > > > > > > > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its been long time since I visited the group, but its > > > > really > > > > > > great > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > get hundreds of messages in my Inbox. I went thru > > most of > > > > them > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > currently started to seriously go thru the files > > section > > > > of this > > > > > > > > > > group, which is really very useful. Regarding Jupiter > > in > > > > Lagna I > > > > > > > > > > searched thru some of my database and found some > > > > interesting > > > > > > cases. > > > >

> > > > > > Here, I shall give the details of their birth and > > their > > > > > > > > > > characteristics rather than important events in their > > > > life, > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > as we all know jupiter in lagna ALONE has little to do > > > > with the > > > > > > > > > > events in their lives. For the events in their lives > > we > > > > have to > > > > > > > > > > consider all other effects, which is out of the scope > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > > > discussion. The persons have clarified with me about > > their > > > > > > > >

> characters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. IAS Officer (came with problems in health and > > political > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > in job): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > June-23-1956, 11.05 am, Gudibanda, India, 77.41.E, > > > > 13.40.N. > > > > > > > > > > Character: I predicted he is very upright officer and > > very > > > > > > dynamic > > > > > > > > > > because Jupiter in Leo Lagna makes one not just honest > > > > (which is > > > > > > > > > why > > > > > > > > > > he was transferred every 2 years by political

persons > > and > > > > even > > > > > > got > > > > > > > > > > death threats), but also very dynamic and knows how to > > > > control > > > > > > > > > > people. He was very sweet in speech and very decent > > but > > > > at the > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > time he seemed dominating (because Mars in 7th > > house). He > > > > said > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > feared in his circle because he is very honest and he > > is > > > > also > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > scared of goondas and death threats. He was a

primary > > > > school > > > > > > > > > teacher > > > > > > > > > > in a village before he became an IAS Officer. He > > seems to > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > sincerely dedicated to work and as he was workoholic > > he > > > > had > > > > > > health > > > > > > > > > > problems. He was a very good poet and has published a > > > > poetry > > > > > > book > > > > > > > > > > (this was my mother's prediction and he was > > astonished, > > > > even I > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > astonished). Also the way he speaks is really > > > > astonishing, very > > >

> > > > > > clear > > > > > > > > > > and dignified in speech and when he talks you feel he > > is > > > > really > > > > > > > > > > intelligent and a very dignified person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. April-16-1986, 03.42, Hubli, India, student. > > > > > > > > > > (parents came with problem of whether he will join a > > > > > > professional > > > > > > > > > > course or not, which my mother predicted he will, > > seeing > > > > not > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna but also his good sidhamsha). But > > > > character > > > > > > wise,

> > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > seems to be very soft and lively person, and since > > there > > > > isnt > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > direct influence on Jupiter, we can safely say he is > > very > > > > > > > > > righteous, > > > > > > > > > > and disciplined and respects elders. The parents said > > > > indeed he > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > very soft-spoken and honest kid and very much > > respects all > > > > > > > > > > traditions. Since he was also running Jupiter dasha, > > he > > > > didnt > > > > >

> have > > > > > > > > > > any sort of problems in his education. Also he plays > > > > tabla at > > > > > > > > > various > > > > > > > > > > competitions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. April-16-1953, 09.10, Bangalore, MLC (Member of > > > > Legislative > > > > > > > > > > Council), > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He came to ask whether he will win election (MP), but > > my > > > > mother > > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > he will not but he will still be in politics, and he > > went > > > > to > > >

> > > > > > politics > > > > > > > > > > thru backdoor (became MLC). He is widely known by > > public > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > > corrupt and goonda. But my mother said completely > > > > opposite, that > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > is very soft, honest, righteous, does charity works, > > and > > > > sincere > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > his wife. He was shell-shocked and almost went into > > > > tears. He > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > was pained at people calling him names, as he was very > > > > sincere. > > > > >

> He > > > > > > > > > > said he had earned money thru hard work in real estate > > > > business > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > then was stepping into politics now, but people > > thought > > > > he made > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > that money in politics since he was also uneducated. > > He > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > involved in even one scandal. He respects everyone and > > > > also does > > > > > > > > > > charity work. But, he is not educated well. But since > > > > Moon is in > > > > > > > > > > lagna with Jupiter, he is sweet and soft in speech and > > > > has

good > > > > > > > > > mind. > > > > > > > > > > But he is also very brave and courageous, because > > Mars in > > > > own > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > and Sun exalted. He is known to have dealt with his > > > > enemies in > > > > > > real- > > > > > > > > > > estate business with an iron hand. But its > > interesting to > > > > see > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > is not well educated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Personal Conclusions about Jupiter in Lagna: > > > > > > > > > > a. Jupiter in

Lagna definitely makes one have sweet > > and > > > > > > dignified > > > > > > > > > > speech. He talks very sensibly and like a learned > > person. > > > > > > > > > > b. Respects traditions and elders. > > > > > > > > > > c. Very knowledgeable (not sure about education > > though). > > > > > > > > > > d. Gives some kind of artistic nature (music, speech, > > > > poetry, > > > > > > etc), > > > > > > > > > > though not like venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Vijay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > , "Sreenadh" > > > > > > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > Let us start discussing the effects of Jupiter in > > > > Lagna. The > > > > > > > > > > > lawyers/thread-owners for this thread are Pt. Arjun > > ji > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Srinivas > > > > > > > > > > ji. > > > > > > > > > > > They have the full right to argue in favor of > > Jupiter > > > > and its > >

> > > > > > > power > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > produce identifiable results when placed in Lagna. > > Try > > > > to > > > > > > argue > > > > > > > > > > against > > > > > > > > > > > him or in support of them - validate the results > > with > > > > your own > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > the charts known to you. I will start the discussion > > > > with > > > > > > minimum > > > > > > > > > > inputs > > > > > > > > > > > (fro Bhrigu sutra)- > > > > > > >

> > > > * If Jupiter is present in lagna the native would be > > > > versatile > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > sound or linguistic related knowledge branches such > > as - > > > > > > > > > Vyakarana, > > > > > > > > > > > Tarka, oratory or the like. If Jupiter is in Cancer > > the > > > > said > > > > > > > > > results > > > > > > > > > > > will happen for sure. > > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter is in Lagna - the native will have good > > > > longevity > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > great luck at or after the age of 16 years. > >

> > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter in Lagna is aspected by malefic > > planets or > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > debilitation or with malefics in enemy house - he > > would > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > interested in > > > > > > > > > > > doing bad deeds. His mind wavering, longevity - > > middle > > > > age, > > > > > > too > > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > > > travel, egotic, no children, he will discard his > > > > relatives or > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > relatives may discard him, he will say bad words > > > > against good > > > > > >

> > > > people, > > > > > > > > > > > sadness and sufferings will prevail. > > > > > > > > > > > So, here goes our group - Jupiter Centric.. > > Hurah, > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > thread of > > > > > > > > > > > Pt. Arjun ji and Srinivas ji. > > > > > > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Dear

Sheevani ji,

Prana-Deha-Mritu sputas (these 3 are always considered

together; and there are 2 popular variants to them) and the Trisphuta are

special longitudes (cumulative total of various other longitudes)

considered in PRASHNA only. The use of these longitudes especially in

Ashta Mangala Prasha (the style of Prasna depicted in texts like Prasnamarga,

Prasna anushtana Pradeepa etc) which is well popular in South India and

especially in Kerala. Ashta Mangala Prashna is VERY BIG subject and

providing a glimpse of it may demand big effort due to the vastness of the

subject. Note that the first volume of Prashnamarga deals with this subject

(Ashta Mangala Prasna) ALONE and nothing else. Note:

Some scholars (especially of SJC school) after learning the subject

from book alone, has now started erroneous applying it in natal chart

as well,

which is AGAINST the advice of the original scholars who presented

these

methods. It is better NOT to touch these subjects for those who are

trying to get a correct understanding of basic astrological principles.

 

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

, "sheevani147" <sheevani147 wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> > Namaste,> > Thank you so much for the analysis..I have often see the various > sphutas.. prana, deha, mitru, trisphutas mentioned in both PL and > Jhora but I have no proper understanding of it. Perhaps if time and > situations permit,, you could give us some guiding principles and > appropriate applications.> > Many thanks> Sheevani> > , "sunil nair" > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > > > dear shivani ji ,> > > > > > > > yes rahu maha dasa can be very tricky since its in 8th house ( > tho> > some schools of astro follows rahu is in own house when in kumbha > rasi )> > but that result is never i found out b true and even wen analysing > the> > chart this dictum coming as a stumbling block and now a days r more > sure> > of it .> > > > > > > > His case for children> > > > ================> > > > see 5th Lord is under rahu ketu axis .Karaka for 5th HOuse for> > children is jup again vakri and afflicted .5th house is aspected by > sani> > planet of slowness .Even gulik ( not jhora one ) given its amsa to > 5th> > HOuse .> > > > > > > > Karaka for semen is venus again very heavily afflicted .Power to > help> > cause pregnancy is strenght of sun (as natural putra rasi owner and> > universal atma karak) .U can see he is with sani .> > > > > > > > also beeja sphuta ( the virility point in male charts) has fall in > a> > makara ,a female sign and in amsa its aries (male sign ) but sani is> > sitting there .Also lord of beeja sputa rasi is sani who is combust > and> > weak in navamsa .> > > > > > > > From Karaka Jup also 5th Lord was Moon and u know its weak and > afflicted> > .So all the results was showing a mixed result .> > > > > > > > I will write abt beeja sputa (male virility ) khetra sphuta ( female> > virility ) and santan thithi and other concepts when ever i get > time in> > grp .If some one has prashna maarga translated by BV raman in > english it> > gives so many yogas and concepts .> > > > > > > > Hope this helps u .> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "sheevani147"> > <sheevani147@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunilji,> > >> > > Namaste ji,> > >> > > Thank you for your analysis of the chart..> > >> > > My personal views are that Rahu mahadasha was the hardest period > for> > > him, lots of frustrations and health problems,, also the period he> > > started drinking..> > >> > > Jupiter MD, so far has been his best period, he was happier in> > > himself and got his Law degree..> > >> > > Regarding his drinking habits,, although like all alcoholics it> > > started with drinking on a daily basis,, but later( 1990's > onwards)> > > it was more 'binge drinking' meaning he wud not touch alcohol for> > > many months or even a year or two, then when problems arise,, he> > > would drink heavily for all day for a week or so and ends up in> > > hospital. His last drinking episode was in 2006..> > >> > > One question, if I may? what in his horoscope denied him of> > > children,, he loves children very much.> > >> > > Many thanks> > >> > > Warmest regards> > > Sheevani> > >> > >> > > , "sunil nair"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > > >> > > > dear shivani ji .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > I was realy studying the chart with various options and its> > > realay a> > > > interesting chart which reveals almost all astro principles > known> > > to me> > > > .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Nativ has shoola yoga ( sapta grahas in 3 signs) and a spoiled > gaja> > > > kesary yoga .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > All most all benefic dasas to lagna has passed already and now > sani> > > s> > > > dasa running who is debilated in amsa .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > rahu in 8th house and sani is debilated (also combust )as 7th > Lord (> > > > both contributed a divorse ) also 9th Lord jup in own house and> > > vakra> > > > .venus the karaka for marriage afflicted heavily .MOOn is weak > as> > > shukla> > > > prathama and nite birth .so lagna lord is also weak .> > > >> > > > also 2nd house and Lord and karaka ( jup ) afflicted given him> > > bad> > > > habbits regrds to drinking as affliction in 2nd house .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > also affected in earning same is with 4th house> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 9th Lord is strong in chart so may be reasons for dependable > source> > > of> > > > support from father .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > coming periods of rahu and jupiter may giv him some work i hope > tho> > > main> > > > period lord is weak .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > also sadesati going on and sani goin tru a weak rasi .also next> > > maha of> > > > merc also weak to deliver good results .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 9th Lord of dharma is strong ,so praying vishnu will help him > if he> > > can> > > > reduce drinking habbits .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > regrds sunil nair .> > > >> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "sheevani147"> > > > <sheevani147@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sunil ji.> > > > >> > > > > Namaste.> > > > >> > > > > Sure Sunil ji,, I am happy to share his birth details and > events> > > in> > > > > his life..> > > > >> > > > > Birthdate,, 2nd October 1951,> > > > > time 01:55 hrs ( past midnight)> > > > > POB.. Penang, Malaysia..(Timezone +7.5 hrs GMT) u might > remember!> > > > > Lagna is cancer..> > > > >> > > > > He is good looking, light skin, 5'6 tall. slim built. Very> > > > > intelligent, soft spoken, though he has a quick temper, which> > > > > subsides quickly too. although he appears arrogant, but is > really> > > > > very friendly and caring.. good communication skills, both > spoken> > > and> > > > > written, good with debates, has good general knowledge.> > > > >> > > > > After completing his senior cambridge exams, travelled to > India in> > > > > 1968 to study medicine.. spent 2 years in punjab, 2 years in> > > > > rajasthan, and 2 years in Bombay,, although he passed his > exams> > > but> > > > > didnt get admission into university.. Got into wrong > company,, had> > > > > lots of problems, took to drinking alcohol regularly, > sqandered> > > money> > > > > and had health issues..> > > > >> > > > > Came back to Malaysia in 1974.. Got a job in civil service > and got> > > > > married in 1981. Drinking problem continued..lost jobs in> > > sucession> > > > > due to his addiction.. No children, divorced in 1992..> > > > >> > > > > In 1984, came to UK, studied Law and graduated with LLB in > 1989.> > > > > Started his baristership training but did not complete it.> > > Returned> > > > > home in 1991.> > > > >> > > > > Remarried in 1996 in India to a young widow with 2 young > sons..> > > > > Had a son of his own in Nov 1998 but child died during> > > childbirth..> > > > >> > > > > After death of child, constant fights between husband and > wife and> > > > > finally in 2005 got separation from his wife. Moved to UK in > 2007,> > > > > got permanent right to reside in UK.. Currently living with> > > parents,> > > > > looking after them.> > > > >> > > > > No self made assests, lived off father,s wealth most of his > life..> > > > > Tried various businesses and jobs,ended in losses and whenever> > > > > things got tough, he took to the bottle.. Although he can and > did> > > > > work hard for periods, but efforts were not > consistent..Generally> > > not> > > > > been very lucky..> > > > >> > > > > He is a wonderful individual to know, not reliable due to > drinking> > > > > habits.. He no longer has his drinking addiction, is very> > > > > spiritual/religious now, does a lot of community work and > looks> > > after> > > > > his parents well.> > > > >> > > > > Warmest regards> > > > > Sheevani> > > > >> > > > > , "sunil nair"> > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > > > > >> > > > > > dear shivani ji ,> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > can u post the data of ur brother and post what ever known> > > > > details> > > > > > to the grp .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Let us see how they differ each other .Off cource kaal desh> > > patra> > > > > > principle apply here and one chart is a male and other is a> > > feamale> > > > > and> > > > > > place of birth is off cource differrent .We r curious to > know> > > how> > > > > and> > > > > > what realy happened .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > I got once a similar chart ( differnt data ) ,one is a film> > > > > producer> > > > > > and business man from south and other is a unmarried very> > > beutiful> > > > > delhi> > > > > > girl who is working as a manager in a showroom ,and wanted > to> > > know> > > > > when> > > > > > she will get married and the male chart i was consulted by > some> > > > > relativ> > > > > > to know abt the success of a 2nd marriage ,after an un> > > successful> > > > > lov> > > > > > marriage and divorce .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > actualy i dont hav data with me ,off cource its some where > in> > > > > daily> > > > > > entry books .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > so pls post the data with ur observation and analysis and> > > > > comparisons> > > > > > if possible .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > >> > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > , "sheevani147"> > > > > > <sheevani147@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Namaste,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > My older brother has identical chart to your mother.. He > was> > > born> > > > > on> > > > > > > 2 Oct 1951.. time 01:55 hrs. When I made chart of your> > > mother,, I> > > > > > > thought I was seeing double..> > > > > > >> > > > > > > warmest regards> > > > > > > Sheevani> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ,> > > Vijayanarasimha H> > > > > > > Pakka hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Shreenadhji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply. What you said seems very logical, > but> > > even> > > > > > > after change in Ayanamsha as you suggested and change in > year> > > > > length,> > > > > > > I get the same. She had uterus operation in Sep 30, 2001 > and> > > on> > > > > Oct> > > > > > > 8th, she had brain haemorrage in the hospital itself, and> > > after> > > > > that> > > > > > > it was hell for all of us for nearly 3 months. Life > seemed to> > > end> > > > > for> > > > > > > all of us, and due to Lord Krishna and Lord Narsimha's > grace> > > she> > > > > was> > > > > > > brought back to normal life and we all are a happy family> > > now. My> > > > > > > life changed after that. She was running Jup-Rahu-Venus > dasha> > > > > during> > > > > > > that time. She was expecting something to happen to her > lower> > > > > portion> > > > > > > of the body during operation (rahu representing legs). We > were> > > > > > > expecting something bad because during Rahu mahadasha, > from> > > 1968> > > > > to> > > > > > > 1986 (especially 1976-1986), life was hell for my parents> > > (zero> > > > > > > income, living in a small house, father working day and > night> > > and> > > > > > > cheated by work partners, mother terribly illtreated from > in-> > > laws,> > > > > > > had abortion, etc). 1986 we shifted to a> > > > > > > > good house and suddenly all our problems almost > vanished,> > > father> > > > > > > had a very good income, built 2 houses, established > industry,> > > etc> > > > > > > (she was running jupiter dasha from then). Till 2001 she > had a> > > > > very> > > > > > > good house life. Now, since saturn is in 3rd house, she is> > > > > enjoying> > > > > > > life again.> > > > > > > > DOB: 1-Oct-1951, 02.36 am, Koppal, 76E09, 15N21.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The point here I feel is that, even if malefic planets > are> > > bad> > > > > > > (like rahu), a good placed jupiter somehow brings good> > > results to> > > > > the> > > > > > > native in the end. Jupiter is indeed life-saving if placed> > > well> > > > > and> > > > > > > has power.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Vijay.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > > > > > I will clarify it further -> > > > > > > > - Jupiter owns 6th house (disease) from Cancer Lagna> > > > > > > > - Mars owns the head of the Kalapurusha, i.e. Aries> > > > > > > > - Mars is debilitated in Lagna (cancer) which indicates> > > > > > > head of the native> > > > > > > > Where ever Mars be possibly this is a combination that > may> > > give> > > > > > > disease or trouble. If there is malefic in Cancer > (especially> > > > > Ketu)> > > > > > > it could even give a minor heart attack in that period.> > > Therefore> > > > > > > considering the pointer Jupiter provides towards disease > and> > > the> > > > > > > repeated pointers Mars provides towards head - it is clear> > > that> > > > > the> > > > > > > said period should be Ju/Ma.> > > > > > > > And that is why the guess, you must be getting it wrong,> > > due to> > > > > > > the use of wrong Ayanamsa and year length. It is such > examples> > > > > that> > > > > > > helps us to verify the validity of the Ayanamsa and year> > > length we> > > > > > > use in a practical perspective.> > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > , "Sreenadh"> > > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Re: Jupiter (Thread owners - Pt. Arjun ji, Sreenivas ji)> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > > > > > ==>> > > > > > > > > My mother has jupiter in 9th house in pisces and rahu > in> > > 8th,> > > > > she> > > > > > > had brain-haemorrhage in> > > > > > > > > jup dasha-rahu bhukthi> > > > > > > > <==> > > > > > > > This statement must be wrong - with the ownership of > Aries> > > (the> > > > > > > head of Kalapurusha), it should be Jupiter dasa-Mars > antara;> > > > > please> > > > > > > use CHari Ayanamsa (46 min more than Lahari) and 360 day> > > Savana> > > > > year> > > > > > > and let me know whether this assumption is correct or not.> > > Also> > > > > > > please inform where Mars is placed in the chart.> > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ,> > > > > Vijayanarasimha> > > > > > > H Pakka> > > > > > > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > Re: Re: Jupiter (Thread> > > owners -> > > > > Pt.> > > > > > > Arjun> > > > > > > > > ji, Sreenivas ji)> > > > > > > > > Dear Sunilji / Shreenadhji, Its very interesting (or> > > obvious)> > > > > how> > > > > > > > > malefic planets affect jupiter. We can also view the> > > chart as> > > > > > > benefic> > > > > > > > > jupiter reducing the malefic effect of rahu and we get> > > mixed> > > > > > > results> > > > > > > > > Anyway the more complications with jupiter, the more> > > > > discussions> > > > > > > we can> > > > > > > > > have. Maybe malefic-uninfluenced and powerful jupiter > is> > > the> > > > > one> > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > truly makes the native famous, righteous, king-like, > etc.> > > I> > > > > would> > > > > > > rather> > > > > > > > > say from experience that, if for example the native > has> > > some> > > > > bad> > > > > > > > > placements of other planets but has a good placement > and> > > > > strength> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > jupiter, he suffers sometimes but finally he emerges> > > > > victorious.> > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > should be the approach a practical astrologer should > take> > > > > while> > > > > > > > > predicting results, rather than jumping guns to > proclaim> > > that> > > > > a> > > > > > > good> > > > > > > > > jupiter (or in lagna) will make the native king-like. > My> > > > > mother> > > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > jupiter in 9th house in pisces and rahu in 8th, she > had> > > > > > > > > brain-haemorrhage in jup dasha-rahu bhukthi (also > jupiter> > > was> > > > > in> > > > > > > ghataka> > > > > > > > > sthana in 10th house from moon in transit), but she> > > recovered> > > > > > > > > fantastically and is perfectly fine (taking some > regular> > > > > tablets)> > > > > > > now.> > > > > > > > > So, dangers are there due to some planets but if some> > > other> > > > > > > planets,> > > > > > > > > especially jupiter is good in one's chart, then the > final> > > > > victory> > > > > > > is to> > > > > > > > > the native. Regarding winding up the jupiter in lagna> > > thread,> > > > > it> > > > > > > > > seems a big job if we start considering the effects of> > > > > jupiter in> > > > > > > each> > > > > > > > > lagna and also influence of each planet on jupiter in> > > lagna.> > > > > Then> > > > > > > we get> > > > > > > > > innumerable combinations to deal with , example: 1.> > > Jupiter in> > > > > > > Aries> > > > > > > > > lagna, uninfluenced> > > > > > > > > 2. Jupiter in Aries lagna, influenced by saturn, 3.> > > Jupiter in> > > > > > > Aries> > > > > > > > > lagna influenced by sun, etc. Also we should keep in > mind> > > the> > > > > > > strength> > > > > > > > > and placement of lagna lord. With so many > combinations, I> > > can> > > > > say> > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > will take more than 1 year to discuss all these cases> > > Anyway,> > > > > as a> > > > > > > > > practical approach, its more than enough if we wind up> > > with> > > > > > > jupiter's> > > > > > > > > effects in various lagnas; and just mention as an> > > important> > > > > > > footnote to> > > > > > > > > be careful to look out for influences of other > planets and> > > > > > > placement of> > > > > > > > > lagna lord Finally, if Shreenadhji / Suniji / > Neelamji /> > > or> > > > > any> > > > > > > other> > > > > > > > > member throw some light (along with any verses) on> > > jupiter's> > > > > > > effects in> > > > > > > > > various lagnas on one's artistic skills and when> > > influenced by> > > > > > > other> > > > > > > > > planets, I would be grateful. From experience I find > it> > > > > difficult> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > estimate the artistic value of jupiter , maybe > because my> > > > > lagna> > > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > venus, who is enemy of Jupiter Regards, Vijay.>> > > > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna ,> > > > > > > > > > dear maligere ji ,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Jup is not alone in lagna but with a dire malefic > rahu> > > ( in> > > > > > > north its> > > > > > > > > knows as guru chandal yoga ) .So rsults attributed to> > > single> > > > > jup> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > lagna how is it possible .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > also sani and mars forming agni maruta yoga ( so the> > > houses> > > > > > > involved> > > > > > > > > can suffer ) also this yoga has no benefic aspects . > ( u> > > hav> > > > > to> > > > > > > giv us> > > > > > > > > feed back ) .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > also born in jup -merc period .then this sat dasa ( > Athi> > > > > > > balavasta or> > > > > > > > > atma karaka planet ) ( tho yoga karaka ) also in marak> > > house> > > > > then> > > > > > > merc (> > > > > > > > > 64th navamsa and 22nd drekkana Lord) and then ketu in > 7th> > > > > dasa (> > > > > > > another> > > > > > > > > maraka place ) ,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > But i think he must hav born in good family ??> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > giv us ur feed back with full detailed analsysis .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > any way jup in lagna is not applicable as other> > > influnces r> > > > > > > there .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah .> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > , "M.A"> > > > > maligere@> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunilji,pundit ji> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This is the details of a person who has jupiter in> > > lagna,> > > > > i> > > > > > > have not> > > > > > > > > seen any of the benefits that is been discussed here > in> > > this> > > > > > > thread for> > > > > > > > > this person. I can say he has seen nothing but> > > difficulties in> > > > > > > life, his> > > > > > > > > health is also nothing to boast about.> > > > > > > > > > > " saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native > an> > > > > > > attractive> > > > > > > > > personality, energetic health, long life, courageous > and> > > > > > > espectable> > > > > > > > > name"> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This statement is totally opposite of what i have> > > seen in> > > > > this> > > > > > > > > persons life> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Name : Sreenivas> > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > > September 9, 1958> > > > > > > > > > > Time: 10:10:00 am> > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > Place: 76 E 05' 00", 13 N 00' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > Hassan, India> > > > > > > > > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > > > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vilamba - Nija Sravana> > > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (77.75% left)> > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)> > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (59.56% left)> > > > > > > > > > > Yoga: Variyan (Ju) (89.14% left)> > > > > > > > > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (55.51% left)> > > > > > > > > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Cn)> > > > > > > > > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> > > > > > > > > > > Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)> > > > > > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:18:07 am> > > > > > > > > > > Sunset: 6:28:06 pm> > > > > > > > > > > Janma Ghatis: 9.6618> > > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-16-55.29> > > > > > > > > > > Sidereal Time: 8:55:15> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanx n' rgds> > > > > > > > > > > Maligere> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > > > > > > > > > > dear pundit ji ,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > yes ,it says guru lagna can counter 1 crore > doshas -> > > > > laksham> > > > > > > dosham> > > > > > > > > guru hanti .> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > what if its in actual experiences .for exmaple i> > > wanted to> > > > > > > know more> > > > > > > > > abt taurus lagna with guru as guru is 8th Lord and his> > > mool> > > > > > > trikon sign> > > > > > > > > also 8th house .> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > any memebrs has any charts ?? I think latha> > > mangeshwar ji> > > > > is> > > > > > > taurus> > > > > > > > > lagna .> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004"> > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > dear vijayji> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > your mail with example charts and the lives of > the> > > > > natives> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna from your database is > informative> > > and> > > > > > > > > appreciated.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > lord rama has jupiter in lagna. some notable > people> > > with> > > > > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > lagna are as follows:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. bharatratna lata mangeshkar> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. erstwhile mysore maharaja krishnaraja > wadiyar IV> > > > > > > > > > > > 3. tata group founder JRD tata> > > > > > > > > > > > 4. former chief minister and actor N T Ramarao> > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sri Aurobindo> > > > > > > > > > > > 6. kanchi sankaracharya sri vijayendra saraswati> > > > > > > > > > > > 7. former prime minister rajiv gandhi> > > > > > > > > > > > 8. emperor akbar> > > > > > > > > > > > 9. emperor aurangazeb> > > > > > > > > > > > 10. tennis star sania mirza> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > the above varied list contains emperors, rajas,> > > prime> > > > > > > minsiters,> > > > > > > > > > > > business tycoons, actors, singers, > sportspersons and> > > > > even> > > > > > > saints.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native > an> > > > > > > attractive> > > > > > > > > > > > personality, energetic health, long life,> > > courageous and> > > > > > > > > respectable> > > > > > > > > > > > name.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna is perceived as positive by > most if> > > > > not all> > > > > > > > > > > > astrologers. even those few who say guru spoils> > > lagna by> > > > > > > sitting> > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > lagna say that his benefic aspect on 5, 7 and 9> > > houses> > > > > (one> > > > > > > > > quadrant> > > > > > > > > > > > and two trines) is auspicious for the native.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > as mentioned by tatvamasiji in one of his mails> > > earlier,> > > > > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > unanimously considered giving positive benfits > on> > > all> > > > > the> > > > > > > three> > > > > > > > > > > > houses he aspect.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > the title "jeeva" or enlivener is granted by > lord> > > shiva> > > > > to> > > > > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > > > > > and naturally jupiter is a natural benefic.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > an axiom says guru in kendra negates one lakh> > > doshams.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > > > > > > > > > > pandit arjun> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > , "Vijay"> > > > > > > > > > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Its been long time since I visited the group, > but> > > its> > > > > > > really> > > > > > > > > great> > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > get hundreds of messages in my Inbox. I went > thru> > > > > most of> > > > > > > them> > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > currently started to seriously go thru the > files> > > > > section> > > > > > > of this> > > > > > > > > > > > > group, which is really very useful. Regarding> > > Jupiter> > > > > in> > > > > > > Lagna I> > > > > > > > > > > > > searched thru some of my database and found > some> > > > > > > interesting> > > > > > > > > cases.> > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, I shall give the details of their birth > and> > > > > their> > > > > > > > > > > > > characteristics rather than important events > in> > > their> > > > > > > life,> > > > > > > > > because> > > > > > > > > > > > > as we all know jupiter in lagna ALONE has > little> > > to do> > > > > > > with the> > > > > > > > > > > > > events in their lives. For the events in their> > > lives> > > > > we> > > > > > > have to> > > > > > > > > > > > > consider all other effects, which is out of > the> > > scope> > > > > of> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > present> > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion. The persons have clarified with me> > > about> > > > > their> > > > > > > > > > > > characters.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. IAS Officer (came with problems in health > and> > > > > political> > > > > > > > > problems> > > > > > > > > > > > > in job):> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > June-23-1956, 11.05 am, Gudibanda, India, > 77.41.E,> > > > > > > 13.40.N.> > > > > > > > > > > > > Character: I predicted he is very upright > officer> > > and> > > > > very> > > > > > > > > dynamic> > > > > > > > > > > > > because Jupiter in Leo Lagna makes one not > just> > > honest> > > > > > > (which is> > > > > > > > > > > > why> > > > > > > > > > > > > he was transferred every 2 years by political> > > persons> > > > > and> > > > > > > even> > > > > > > > > got> > > > > > > > > > > > > death threats), but also very dynamic and > knows> > > how to> > > > > > > control> > > > > > > > > > > > > people. He was very sweet in speech and very> > > decent> > > > > but> > > > > > > at the> > > > > > > > > same> > > > > > > > > > > > > time he seemed dominating (because Mars in 7th> > > > > house). He> > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > feared in his circle because he is very honest> > > and he> > > > > is> > > > > > > also> > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > scared of goondas and death threats. He was a> > > primary> > > > > > > school> > > > > > > > > > > > teacher> > > > > > > > > > > > > in a village before he became an IAS Officer. > He> > > > > seems to> > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely dedicated to work and as he was> > > workoholic> > > > > he> > > > > > > had> > > > > > > > > health> > > > > > > > > > > > > problems. He was a very good poet and has> > > published a> > > > > > > poetry> > > > > > > > > book> > > > > > > > > > > > > (this was my mother's prediction and he was> > > > > astonished,> > > > > > > even I> > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > astonished). Also the way he speaks is really> > > > > > > astonishing, very> > > > > > > > > > > > clear> > > > > > > > > > > > > and dignified in speech and when he talks you> > > feel he> > > > > is> > > > > > > really> > > > > > > > > > > > > intelligent and a very dignified person.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. April-16-1986, 03.42, Hubli, India, > student.> > > > > > > > > > > > > (parents came with problem of whether he will> > > join a> > > > > > > > > professional> > > > > > > > > > > > > course or not, which my mother predicted he > will,> > > > > seeing> > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > only> > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna but also his good > sidhamsha). But> > > > > > > character> > > > > > > > > wise,> > > > > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > > seems to be very soft and lively person, and > since> > > > > there> > > > > > > isnt> > > > > > > > > any> > > > > > > > > > > > > direct influence on Jupiter, we can safely > say he> > > is> > > > > very> > > > > > > > > > > > righteous,> > > > > > > > > > > > > and disciplined and respects elders. The > parents> > > said> > > > > > > indeed he> > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > > > > very soft-spoken and honest kid and very much> > > > > respects all> > > > > > > > > > > > > traditions. Since he was also running Jupiter> > > dasha,> > > > > he> > > > > > > didnt> > > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > > > > any sort of problems in his education. Also he> > > plays> > > > > > > tabla at> > > > > > > > > > > > various> > > > > > > > > > > > > competitions.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. April-16-1953, 09.10, Bangalore, MLC > (Member of> > > > > > > Legislative> > > > > > > > > > > > > Council),> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > He came to ask whether he will win election > (MP),> > > but> > > > > my> > > > > > > mother> > > > > > > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > > > > > he will not but he will still be in politics, > and> > > he> > > > > went> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > politics> > > > > > > > > > > > > thru backdoor (became MLC). He is widely > known by> > > > > public> > > > > > > to be> > > > > > > > > > > > > corrupt and goonda. But my mother said > completely> > > > > > > opposite, that> > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > > is very soft, honest, righteous, does charity> > > works,> > > > > and> > > > > > > sincere> > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > his wife. He was shell-shocked and almost went> > > into> > > > > > > tears. He> > > > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > > was pained at people calling him names, as he > was> > > very> > > > > > > sincere.> > > > > > > > > He> > > > > > > > > > > > > said he had earned money thru hard work in > real> > > estate> > > > > > > business> > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > then was stepping into politics now, but > people> > > > > thought> > > > > > > he made> > > > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > > > > that money in politics since he was also> > > uneducated.> > > > > He> > > > > > > is not> > > > > > > > > > > > > involved in even one scandal. He respects> > > everyone and> > > > > > > also does> > > > > > > > > > > > > charity work. But, he is not educated well. > But> > > since> > > > > > > Moon is in> > > > > > > > > > > > > lagna with Jupiter, he is sweet and soft in> > > speech and> > > > > > > has good> > > > > > > > > > > > mind.> > > > > > > > > > > > > But he is also very brave and courageous, > because> > > > > Mars in> > > > > > > own> > > > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > > > > > and Sun exalted. He is known to have dealt > with> > > his> > > > > > > enemies in> > > > > > > > > real-> > > > > > > > > > > > > estate business with an iron hand. But its> > > > > interesting to> > > > > > > see> > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > > > > is not well educated.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > My Personal Conclusions about Jupiter in > Lagna:> > > > > > > > > > > > > a. Jupiter in Lagna definitely makes one have> > > sweet> > > > > and> > > > > > > > > dignified> > > > > > > > > > > > > speech. He talks very sensibly and like a > learned> > > > > person.> > > > > > > > > > > > > b. Respects traditions and elders.> > > > > > > > > > > > > c. Very knowledgeable (not sure about > education> > > > > though).> > > > > > > > > > > > > d. Gives some kind of artistic nature (music,> > > speech,> > > > > > > poetry,> > > > > > > > > etc),> > > > > > > > > > > > > though not like venus.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > , "Sreenadh"> > > > > > > > > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us start discussing the effects of > Jupiter> > > in> > > > > > > Lagna. The> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lawyers/thread-owners for this thread are > Pt.> > > Arjun> > > > > ji> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > Srinivas> > > > > > > > > > > > > ji.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > They have the full right to argue in favor > of> > > > > Jupiter> > > > > > > and its> > > > > > > > > > > > power> > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > produce identifiable results when placed in> > > Lagna.> > > > > Try> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > argue> > > > > > > > > > > > > against> > > > > > > > > > > > > > him or in support of them - validate the > results> > > > > with> > > > > > > your own> > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the charts known to you. I will start the> > > discussion> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > minimum> > > > > > > > > > > > > inputs> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (fro Bhrigu sutra)-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter is present in lagna the native> > > would be> > > > > > > versatile> > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sound or linguistic related knowledge > branches> > > such> > > > > as -> > > > > > > > > > > > Vyakarana,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarka, oratory or the like. If Jupiter is in> > > Cancer> > > > > the> > > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > > > > results> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will happen for sure.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter is in Lagna - the native will > have> > > good> > > > > > > longevity> > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > great luck at or after the age of 16 years.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter in Lagna is aspected by malefic> > > > > planets or> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > debilitation or with malefics in enemy > house -> > > he> > > > > would> > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > > > > interested in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing bad deeds. His mind wavering, > longevity -> > > > > middle> > > > > > > age,> > > > > > > > > too> > > > > > > > > > > > much> > > > > > > > > > > > > > travel, egotic, no children, he will > discard his> > > > > > > relatives or> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > relatives may discard him, he will say bad > words> > > > > > > against good> > > > > > > > > > > > > people,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sadness and sufferings will prevail.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, here goes our group - Jupiter > Centric.. > > > > > Hurah,> > > > > > > to the> > > > > > > > > > > > > thread of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pt. Arjun ji and Srinivas ji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them > fast> > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Search.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with> > > > > > > > > > Mobile. Try> > > > > > > > > it now.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > > > > Mobile.> > > > > > > Try it now.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sreenadh ji,

 

Namaste..

 

Thank you for your guidance which I appreciate very much.. I was

curious about the various sphuta's and how and where they were used

and applied, which you have very kindly indicated..

 

Warmest regards

Sheevani

 

 

 

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Dear Sheevani ji,

> Prana-Deha-Mritu sputas (these 3 are always considered

together; and

> there are 2 popular variants to them) and the Trisphuta are special

> longitudes (cumulative total of various other longitudes)

considered in

> PRASHNA only. The use of these longitudes especially in Ashta

Mangala

> Prasha (the style of Prasna depicted in texts like Prasnamarga,

Prasna

> anushtana Pradeepa etc) which is well popular in South India and

> especially in Kerala. Ashta Mangala Prashna is VERY BIG subject and

> providing a glimpse of it may demand big effort due to the vastness

of

> the subject. Note that the first volume of Prashnamarga deals with

this

> subject (Ashta Mangala Prasna) ALONE and nothing else.

> Note: Some scholars (especially of SJC school) after learning the

> subject from book alone, has now started erroneous applying it in

natal

> chart as well, which is AGAINST the advice of the original scholars

who

> presented these methods. It is better NOT to touch these subjects

for

> those who are trying to get a correct understanding of basic

> astrological principles.

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

> , " sheevani147 "

> <sheevani147@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sunil ji,

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > Thank you so much for the analysis..I have often see the various

> > sphutas.. prana, deha, mitru, trisphutas mentioned in both PL and

> > Jhora but I have no proper understanding of it. Perhaps if time

and

> > situations permit,, you could give us some guiding principles and

> > appropriate applications.

> >

> > Many thanks

> > Sheevani

> >

> > , " sunil nair "

> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hare rama krishna ,

> > >

> > > dear shivani ji ,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > yes rahu maha dasa can be very tricky since its in 8th

house (

> > tho

> > > some schools of astro follows rahu is in own house when in

kumbha

> > rasi )

> > > but that result is never i found out b true and even wen

analysing

> > the

> > > chart this dictum coming as a stumbling block and now a days r

more

> > sure

> > > of it .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > His case for children

> > >

> > > ================

> > >

> > > see 5th Lord is under rahu ketu axis .Karaka for 5th HOuse

for

> > > children is jup again vakri and afflicted .5th house is

aspected by

> > sani

> > > planet of slowness .Even gulik ( not jhora one ) given its amsa

to

> > 5th

> > > HOuse .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Karaka for semen is venus again very heavily afflicted .Power to

> > help

> > > cause pregnancy is strenght of sun (as natural putra rasi

owner and

> > > universal atma karak) .U can see he is with sani .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > also beeja sphuta ( the virility point in male charts) has

fall in

> > a

> > > makara ,a female sign and in amsa its aries (male sign ) but

sani is

> > > sitting there .Also lord of beeja sputa rasi is sani who is

combust

> > and

> > > weak in navamsa .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > From Karaka Jup also 5th Lord was Moon and u know its weak and

> > afflicted

> > > .So all the results was showing a mixed result .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I will write abt beeja sputa (male virility ) khetra sphuta (

female

> > > virility ) and santan thithi and other concepts when ever i get

> > time in

> > > grp .If some one has prashna maarga translated by BV raman in

> > english it

> > > gives so many yogas and concepts .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hope this helps u .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > regrds sunil nair

> > >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " sheevani147 "

> > > <sheevani147@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sunilji,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste ji,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for your analysis of the chart..

> > > >

> > > > My personal views are that Rahu mahadasha was the hardest

period

> > for

> > > > him, lots of frustrations and health problems,, also the

period he

> > > > started drinking..

> > > >

> > > > Jupiter MD, so far has been his best period, he was happier in

> > > > himself and got his Law degree..

> > > >

> > > > Regarding his drinking habits,, although like all alcoholics

it

> > > > started with drinking on a daily basis,, but later( 1990's

> > onwards)

> > > > it was more 'binge drinking' meaning he wud not touch alcohol

for

> > > > many months or even a year or two, then when problems arise,,

he

> > > > would drink heavily for all day for a week or so and ends up

in

> > > > hospital. His last drinking episode was in 2006..

> > > >

> > > > One question, if I may? what in his horoscope denied him of

> > > > children,, he loves children very much.

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks

> > > >

> > > > Warmest regards

> > > > Sheevani

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " sunil nair "

> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare rama krishna ,

> > > > >

> > > > > dear shivani ji .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I was realy studying the chart with various options and its

> > > > realay a

> > > > > interesting chart which reveals almost all astro principles

> > known

> > > > to me

> > > > > .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Nativ has shoola yoga ( sapta grahas in 3 signs) and a

spoiled

> > gaja

> > > > > kesary yoga .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > All most all benefic dasas to lagna has passed already and

now

> > sani

> > > > s

> > > > > dasa running who is debilated in amsa .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > rahu in 8th house and sani is debilated (also combust )as

7th

> > Lord (

> > > > > both contributed a divorse ) also 9th Lord jup in own house

and

> > > > vakra

> > > > > .venus the karaka for marriage afflicted heavily .MOOn is

weak

> > as

> > > > shukla

> > > > > prathama and nite birth .so lagna lord is also weak .

> > > > >

> > > > > also 2nd house and Lord and karaka ( jup ) afflicted given

him

> > > > bad

> > > > > habbits regrds to drinking as affliction in 2nd house .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > also affected in earning same is with 4th house

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 9th Lord is strong in chart so may be reasons for dependable

> > source

> > > > of

> > > > > support from father .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > coming periods of rahu and jupiter may giv him some work i

hope

> > tho

> > > > main

> > > > > period lord is weak .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > also sadesati going on and sani goin tru a weak rasi .also

next

> > > > maha of

> > > > > merc also weak to deliver good results .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 9th Lord of dharma is strong ,so praying vishnu will help

him

> > if he

> > > > can

> > > > > reduce drinking habbits .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > regrds sunil nair .

> > > > >

> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

, " sheevani147 "

> > > > > <sheevani147@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sunil ji.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sure Sunil ji,, I am happy to share his birth details and

> > events

> > > > in

> > > > > > his life..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Birthdate,, 2nd October 1951,

> > > > > > time 01:55 hrs ( past midnight)

> > > > > > POB.. Penang, Malaysia..(Timezone +7.5 hrs GMT) u might

> > remember!

> > > > > > Lagna is cancer..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He is good looking, light skin, 5'6 tall. slim built. Very

> > > > > > intelligent, soft spoken, though he has a quick temper,

which

> > > > > > subsides quickly too. although he appears arrogant, but is

> > really

> > > > > > very friendly and caring.. good communication skills, both

> > spoken

> > > > and

> > > > > > written, good with debates, has good general knowledge.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After completing his senior cambridge exams, travelled to

> > India in

> > > > > > 1968 to study medicine.. spent 2 years in punjab, 2 years

in

> > > > > > rajasthan, and 2 years in Bombay,, although he passed his

> > exams

> > > > but

> > > > > > didnt get admission into university.. Got into wrong

> > company,, had

> > > > > > lots of problems, took to drinking alcohol regularly,

> > sqandered

> > > > money

> > > > > > and had health issues..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Came back to Malaysia in 1974.. Got a job in civil service

> > and got

> > > > > > married in 1981. Drinking problem continued..lost jobs in

> > > > sucession

> > > > > > due to his addiction.. No children, divorced in 1992..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In 1984, came to UK, studied Law and graduated with LLB in

> > 1989.

> > > > > > Started his baristership training but did not complete it.

> > > > Returned

> > > > > > home in 1991.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Remarried in 1996 in India to a young widow with 2 young

> > sons..

> > > > > > Had a son of his own in Nov 1998 but child died during

> > > > childbirth..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After death of child, constant fights between husband and

> > wife and

> > > > > > finally in 2005 got separation from his wife. Moved to UK

in

> > 2007,

> > > > > > got permanent right to reside in UK.. Currently living

with

> > > > parents,

> > > > > > looking after them.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No self made assests, lived off father,s wealth most of

his

> > life..

> > > > > > Tried various businesses and jobs,ended in losses and

whenever

> > > > > > things got tough, he took to the bottle.. Although he can

and

> > did

> > > > > > work hard for periods, but efforts were not

> > consistent..Generally

> > > > not

> > > > > > been very lucky..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He is a wonderful individual to know, not reliable due to

> > drinking

> > > > > > habits.. He no longer has his drinking addiction, is very

> > > > > > spiritual/religious now, does a lot of community work and

> > looks

> > > > after

> > > > > > his parents well.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Warmest regards

> > > > > > Sheevani

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " sunil

nair "

> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hare rama krishna ,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear shivani ji ,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > can u post the data of ur brother and post what ever

known

> > > > > > details

> > > > > > > to the grp .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Let us see how they differ each other .Off cource kaal

desh

> > > > patra

> > > > > > > principle apply here and one chart is a male and other

is a

> > > > feamale

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > place of birth is off cource differrent .We r curious to

> > know

> > > > how

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > what realy happened .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I got once a similar chart ( differnt data ) ,one is a

film

> > > > > > producer

> > > > > > > and business man from south and other is a unmarried

very

> > > > beutiful

> > > > > > delhi

> > > > > > > girl who is working as a manager in a showroom ,and

wanted

> > to

> > > > know

> > > > > > when

> > > > > > > she will get married and the male chart i was consulted

by

> > some

> > > > > > relativ

> > > > > > > to know abt the success of a 2nd marriage ,after an un

> > > > successful

> > > > > > lov

> > > > > > > marriage and divorce .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > actualy i dont hav data with me ,off cource its some

where

> > in

> > > > > > daily

> > > > > > > entry books .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > so pls post the data with ur observation and analysis

and

> > > > > > comparisons

> > > > > > > if possible .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > , " sheevani147 "

> > > > > > > <sheevani147@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My older brother has identical chart to your mother..

He

> > was

> > > > born

> > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > 2 Oct 1951.. time 01:55 hrs. When I made chart of your

> > > > mother,, I

> > > > > > > > thought I was seeing double..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > warmest regards

> > > > > > > > Sheevani

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

> > > > Vijayanarasimha H

> > > > > > > > Pakka hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Shreenadhji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply. What you said seems very

logical,

> > but

> > > > even

> > > > > > > > after change in Ayanamsha as you suggested and change

in

> > year

> > > > > > length,

> > > > > > > > I get the same. She had uterus operation in Sep 30,

2001

> > and

> > > > on

> > > > > > Oct

> > > > > > > > 8th, she had brain haemorrage in the hospital itself,

and

> > > > after

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > it was hell for all of us for nearly 3 months. Life

> > seemed to

> > > > end

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > all of us, and due to Lord Krishna and Lord Narsimha's

> > grace

> > > > she

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > brought back to normal life and we all are a happy

family

> > > > now. My

> > > > > > > > life changed after that. She was running Jup-Rahu-

Venus

> > dasha

> > > > > > during

> > > > > > > > that time. She was expecting something to happen to

her

> > lower

> > > > > > portion

> > > > > > > > of the body during operation (rahu representing

legs). We

> > were

> > > > > > > > expecting something bad because during Rahu mahadasha,

> > from

> > > > 1968

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > 1986 (especially 1976-1986), life was hell for my

parents

> > > > (zero

> > > > > > > > income, living in a small house, father working day

and

> > night

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > cheated by work partners, mother terribly illtreated

from

> > in-

> > > > laws,

> > > > > > > > had abortion, etc). 1986 we shifted to a

> > > > > > > > > good house and suddenly all our problems almost

> > vanished,

> > > > father

> > > > > > > > had a very good income, built 2 houses, established

> > industry,

> > > > etc

> > > > > > > > (she was running jupiter dasha from then). Till 2001

she

> > had a

> > > > > > very

> > > > > > > > good house life. Now, since saturn is in 3rd house,

she is

> > > > > > enjoying

> > > > > > > > life again.

> > > > > > > > > DOB: 1-Oct-1951, 02.36 am, Koppal, 76E09, 15N21.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The point here I feel is that, even if malefic

planets

> > are

> > > > bad

> > > > > > > > (like rahu), a good placed jupiter somehow brings good

> > > > results to

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > native in the end. Jupiter is indeed life-saving if

placed

> > > > well

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > has power.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Vijay.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji,

> > > > > > > > > I will clarify it further -

> > > > > > > > > - Jupiter owns 6th house (disease) from Cancer Lagna

> > > > > > > > > - Mars owns the head of the Kalapurusha, i.e. Aries

> > > > > > > > > - Mars is debilitated in Lagna (cancer) which

indicates

> > > > > > > > head of the native

> > > > > > > > > Where ever Mars be possibly this is a combination

that

> > may

> > > > give

> > > > > > > > disease or trouble. If there is malefic in Cancer

> > (especially

> > > > > > Ketu)

> > > > > > > > it could even give a minor heart attack in that

period.

> > > > Therefore

> > > > > > > > considering the pointer Jupiter provides towards

disease

> > and

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > repeated pointers Mars provides towards head - it is

clear

> > > > that

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > said period should be Ju/Ma.

> > > > > > > > > And that is why the guess, you must be getting it

wrong,

> > > > due to

> > > > > > > > the use of wrong Ayanamsa and year length. It is such

> > examples

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > helps us to verify the validity of the Ayanamsa and

year

> > > > length we

> > > > > > > > use in a practical perspective.

> > > > > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > , " Sreenadh "

> > > > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Re: Jupiter (Thread owners - Pt. Arjun ji,

Sreenivas ji)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji,

> > > > > > > > > ==>

> > > > > > > > > > My mother has jupiter in 9th house in pisces and

rahu

> > in

> > > > 8th,

> > > > > > she

> > > > > > > > had brain-haemorrhage in

> > > > > > > > > > jup dasha-rahu bhukthi

> > > > > > > > > <==

> > > > > > > > > This statement must be wrong - with the ownership of

> > Aries

> > > > (the

> > > > > > > > head of Kalapurusha), it should be Jupiter dasa-Mars

> > antara;

> > > > > > please

> > > > > > > > use CHari Ayanamsa (46 min more than Lahari) and 360

day

> > > > Savana

> > > > > > year

> > > > > > > > and let me know whether this assumption is correct or

not.

> > > > Also

> > > > > > > > please inform where Mars is placed in the chart.

> > > > > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ,

> > > > > > Vijayanarasimha

> > > > > > > > H Pakka

> > > > > > > > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: Jupiter (Thread

> > > > owners -

> > > > > > Pt.

> > > > > > > > Arjun

> > > > > > > > > > ji, Sreenivas ji)

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunilji / Shreenadhji, Its very interesting

(or

> > > > obvious)

> > > > > > how

> > > > > > > > > > malefic planets affect jupiter. We can also view

the

> > > > chart as

> > > > > > > > benefic

> > > > > > > > > > jupiter reducing the malefic effect of rahu and

we get

> > > > mixed

> > > > > > > > results

> > > > > > > > > > Anyway the more complications with jupiter, the

more

> > > > > > discussions

> > > > > > > > we can

> > > > > > > > > > have. Maybe malefic-uninfluenced and powerful

jupiter

> > is

> > > > the

> > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > truly makes the native famous, righteous, king-

like,

> > etc.

> > > > I

> > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > rather

> > > > > > > > > > say from experience that, if for example the

native

> > has

> > > > some

> > > > > > bad

> > > > > > > > > > placements of other planets but has a good

placement

> > and

> > > > > > strength

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > jupiter, he suffers sometimes but finally he

emerges

> > > > > > victorious.

> > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > should be the approach a practical astrologer

should

> > take

> > > > > > while

> > > > > > > > > > predicting results, rather than jumping guns to

> > proclaim

> > > > that

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > jupiter (or in lagna) will make the native king-

like.

> > My

> > > > > > mother

> > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > jupiter in 9th house in pisces and rahu in 8th,

she

> > had

> > > > > > > > > > brain-haemorrhage in jup dasha-rahu bhukthi (also

> > jupiter

> > > > was

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > ghataka

> > > > > > > > > > sthana in 10th house from moon in transit), but

she

> > > > recovered

> > > > > > > > > > fantastically and is perfectly fine (taking some

> > regular

> > > > > > tablets)

> > > > > > > > now.

> > > > > > > > > > So, dangers are there due to some planets but if

some

> > > > other

> > > > > > > > planets,

> > > > > > > > > > especially jupiter is good in one's chart, then

the

> > final

> > > > > > victory

> > > > > > > > is to

> > > > > > > > > > the native. Regarding winding up the jupiter in

lagna

> > > > thread,

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > seems a big job if we start considering the

effects of

> > > > > > jupiter in

> > > > > > > > each

> > > > > > > > > > lagna and also influence of each planet on

jupiter in

> > > > lagna.

> > > > > > Then

> > > > > > > > we get

> > > > > > > > > > innumerable combinations to deal with , example:

1.

> > > > Jupiter in

> > > > > > > > Aries

> > > > > > > > > > lagna, uninfluenced

> > > > > > > > > > 2. Jupiter in Aries lagna, influenced by saturn,

3.

> > > > Jupiter in

> > > > > > > > Aries

> > > > > > > > > > lagna influenced by sun, etc. Also we should keep

in

> > mind

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > strength

> > > > > > > > > > and placement of lagna lord. With so many

> > combinations, I

> > > > can

> > > > > > say

> > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > will take more than 1 year to discuss all these

cases

> > > > Anyway,

> > > > > > as a

> > > > > > > > > > practical approach, its more than enough if we

wind up

> > > > with

> > > > > > > > jupiter's

> > > > > > > > > > effects in various lagnas; and just mention as an

> > > > important

> > > > > > > > footnote to

> > > > > > > > > > be careful to look out for influences of other

> > planets and

> > > > > > > > placement of

> > > > > > > > > > lagna lord Finally, if Shreenadhji / Suniji /

> > Neelamji /

> > > > or

> > > > > > any

> > > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > member throw some light (along with any verses) on

> > > > jupiter's

> > > > > > > > effects in

> > > > > > > > > > various lagnas on one's artistic skills and when

> > > > influenced by

> > > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > planets, I would be grateful. From experience I

find

> > it

> > > > > > difficult

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > estimate the artistic value of jupiter , maybe

> > because my

> > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > venus, who is enemy of Jupiter Regards, Vijay.>

> > > > > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna ,

> > > > > > > > > > > dear maligere ji ,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Jup is not alone in lagna but with a dire

malefic

> > rahu

> > > > ( in

> > > > > > > > north its

> > > > > > > > > > knows as guru chandal yoga ) .So rsults

attributed to

> > > > single

> > > > > > jup

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > lagna how is it possible .

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > also sani and mars forming agni maruta yoga (

so the

> > > > houses

> > > > > > > > involved

> > > > > > > > > > can suffer ) also this yoga has no benefic

aspects .

> > ( u

> > > > hav

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > giv us

> > > > > > > > > > feed back ) .

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > also born in jup -merc period .then this sat

dasa (

> > Athi

> > > > > > > > balavasta or

> > > > > > > > > > atma karaka planet ) ( tho yoga karaka ) also in

marak

> > > > house

> > > > > > then

> > > > > > > > merc (

> > > > > > > > > > 64th navamsa and 22nd drekkana Lord) and then

ketu in

> > 7th

> > > > > > dasa (

> > > > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > > > maraka place ) ,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > But i think he must hav born in good family ??

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > giv us ur feed back with full detailed

analsysis .

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > any way jup in lagna is not applicable as other

> > > > influnces r

> > > > > > > > there .

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > > > > > > > om shreem maha laxmai namah .

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > , " M.A "

> > > > > > maligere@

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunilji,pundit ji

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > This is the details of a person who has

jupiter in

> > > > lagna,

> > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > have not

> > > > > > > > > > seen any of the benefits that is been discussed

here

> > in

> > > > this

> > > > > > > > thread for

> > > > > > > > > > this person. I can say he has seen nothing but

> > > > difficulties in

> > > > > > > > life, his

> > > > > > > > > > health is also nothing to boast about.

> > > > > > > > > > > > " saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the

native

> > an

> > > > > > > > attractive

> > > > > > > > > > personality, energetic health, long life,

courageous

> > and

> > > > > > > > espectable

> > > > > > > > > > name "

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > This statement is totally opposite of what i

have

> > > > seen in

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > persons life

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Name : Sreenivas

> > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart

> > > > > > > > > > > > September 9, 1958

> > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 10:10:00 am

> > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 76 E 05' 00 " , 13 N 00' 00 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hassan, India

> > > > > > > > > > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vilamba - Nija Sravana

> > > > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (77.75% left)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (59.56% left)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Yoga: Variyan (Ju) (89.14% left)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (55.51% left)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Cn)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:18:07 am

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sunset: 6:28:06 pm

> > > > > > > > > > > > Janma Ghatis: 9.6618

> > > > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-16-55.29

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sidereal Time: 8:55:15

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx n' rgds

> > > > > > > > > > > > Maligere

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna ,

> > > > > > > > > > > > dear pundit ji ,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > yes ,it says guru lagna can counter 1 crore

> > doshas -

> > > > > > laksham

> > > > > > > > dosham

> > > > > > > > > > guru hanti .

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > what if its in actual experiences .for

exmaple i

> > > > wanted to

> > > > > > > > know more

> > > > > > > > > > abt taurus lagna with guru as guru is 8th Lord

and his

> > > > mool

> > > > > > > > trikon sign

> > > > > > > > > > also 8th house .

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > any memebrs has any charts ?? I think latha

> > > > mangeshwar ji

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > taurus

> > > > > > > > > > lagna .

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > >

> > , " panditarjun2004 "

> > > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > dear vijayji

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > your mail with example charts and the lives

of

> > the

> > > > > > natives

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna from your database is

> > informative

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > appreciated.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > lord rama has jupiter in lagna. some notable

> > people

> > > > with

> > > > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > lagna are as follows:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. bharatratna lata mangeshkar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. erstwhile mysore maharaja krishnaraja

> > wadiyar IV

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. tata group founder JRD tata

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. former chief minister and actor N T

Ramarao

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sri Aurobindo

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. kanchi sankaracharya sri vijayendra

saraswati

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. former prime minister rajiv gandhi

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. emperor akbar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 9. emperor aurangazeb

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 10. tennis star sania mirza

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the above varied list contains emperors,

rajas,

> > > > prime

> > > > > > > > minsiters,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > business tycoons, actors, singers,

> > sportspersons and

> > > > > > even

> > > > > > > > saints.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the

native

> > an

> > > > > > > > attractive

> > > > > > > > > > > > > personality, energetic health, long life,

> > > > courageous and

> > > > > > > > > > respectable

> > > > > > > > > > > > > name.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna is perceived as positive by

> > most if

> > > > > > not all

> > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologers. even those few who say guru

spoils

> > > > lagna by

> > > > > > > > sitting

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > lagna say that his benefic aspect on 5, 7

and 9

> > > > houses

> > > > > > (one

> > > > > > > > > > quadrant

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and two trines) is auspicious for the

native.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > as mentioned by tatvamasiji in one of his

mails

> > > > earlier,

> > > > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > unanimously considered giving positive

benfits

> > on

> > > > all

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > three

> > > > > > > > > > > > > houses he aspect.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the title " jeeva " or enlivener is granted by

> > lord

> > > > shiva

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and naturally jupiter is a natural benefic.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > an axiom says guru in kendra negates one

lakh

> > > > doshams.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > > > > > > > > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " Vijay "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its been long time since I visited the

group,

> > but

> > > > its

> > > > > > > > really

> > > > > > > > > > great

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > get hundreds of messages in my Inbox. I

went

> > thru

> > > > > > most of

> > > > > > > > them

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > currently started to seriously go thru the

> > files

> > > > > > section

> > > > > > > > of this

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > group, which is really very useful.

Regarding

> > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > Lagna I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > searched thru some of my database and

found

> > some

> > > > > > > > interesting

> > > > > > > > > > cases.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here, I shall give the details of their

birth

> > and

> > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > characteristics rather than important

events

> > in

> > > > their

> > > > > > > > life,

> > > > > > > > > > because

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > as we all know jupiter in lagna ALONE has

> > little

> > > > to do

> > > > > > > > with the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > events in their lives. For the events in

their

> > > > lives

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > have to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > consider all other effects, which is out

of

> > the

> > > > scope

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > present

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion. The persons have clarified

with me

> > > > about

> > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > > > > characters.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. IAS Officer (came with problems in

health

> > and

> > > > > > political

> > > > > > > > > > problems

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in job):

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > June-23-1956, 11.05 am, Gudibanda, India,

> > 77.41.E,

> > > > > > > > 13.40.N.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Character: I predicted he is very upright

> > officer

> > > > and

> > > > > > very

> > > > > > > > > > dynamic

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > because Jupiter in Leo Lagna makes one not

> > just

> > > > honest

> > > > > > > > (which is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > why

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > he was transferred every 2 years by

political

> > > > persons

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > even

> > > > > > > > > > got

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > death threats), but also very dynamic and

> > knows

> > > > how to

> > > > > > > > control

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > people. He was very sweet in speech and

very

> > > > decent

> > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > at the

> > > > > > > > > > same

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > time he seemed dominating (because Mars

in 7th

> > > > > > house). He

> > > > > > > > said

> > > > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > feared in his circle because he is very

honest

> > > > and he

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > scared of goondas and death threats. He

was a

> > > > primary

> > > > > > > > school

> > > > > > > > > > > > > teacher

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a village before he became an IAS

Officer.

> > He

> > > > > > seems to

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely dedicated to work and as he was

> > > > workoholic

> > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > had

> > > > > > > > > > health

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems. He was a very good poet and has

> > > > published a

> > > > > > > > poetry

> > > > > > > > > > book

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (this was my mother's prediction and he

was

> > > > > > astonished,

> > > > > > > > even I

> > > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > astonished). Also the way he speaks is

really

> > > > > > > > astonishing, very

> > > > > > > > > > > > > clear

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and dignified in speech and when he talks

you

> > > > feel he

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > really

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > intelligent and a very dignified person.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. April-16-1986, 03.42, Hubli, India,

> > student.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (parents came with problem of whether he

will

> > > > join a

> > > > > > > > > > professional

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > course or not, which my mother predicted

he

> > will,

> > > > > > seeing

> > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > only

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna but also his good

> > sidhamsha). But

> > > > > > > > character

> > > > > > > > > > wise,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems to be very soft and lively person,

and

> > since

> > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > isnt

> > > > > > > > > > any

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > direct influence on Jupiter, we can safely

> > say he

> > > > is

> > > > > > very

> > > > > > > > > > > > > righteous,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and disciplined and respects elders. The

> > parents

> > > > said

> > > > > > > > indeed he

> > > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > very soft-spoken and honest kid and very

much

> > > > > > respects all

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > traditions. Since he was also running

Jupiter

> > > > dasha,

> > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > didnt

> > > > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > any sort of problems in his education.

Also he

> > > > plays

> > > > > > > > tabla at

> > > > > > > > > > > > > various

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > competitions.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. April-16-1953, 09.10, Bangalore, MLC

> > (Member of

> > > > > > > > Legislative

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Council),

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > He came to ask whether he will win

election

> > (MP),

> > > > but

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > mother

> > > > > > > > > > > > > said

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > he will not but he will still be in

politics,

> > and

> > > > he

> > > > > > went

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > politics

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thru backdoor (became MLC). He is widely

> > known by

> > > > > > public

> > > > > > > > to be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > corrupt and goonda. But my mother said

> > completely

> > > > > > > > opposite, that

> > > > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is very soft, honest, righteous, does

charity

> > > > works,

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > sincere

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > his wife. He was shell-shocked and almost

went

> > > > into

> > > > > > > > tears. He

> > > > > > > > > > said

> > > > > > > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > was pained at people calling him names,

as he

> > was

> > > > very

> > > > > > > > sincere.

> > > > > > > > > > He

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > said he had earned money thru hard work in

> > real

> > > > estate

> > > > > > > > business

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > then was stepping into politics now, but

> > people

> > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > he made

> > > > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that money in politics since he was also

> > > > uneducated.

> > > > > > He

> > > > > > > > is not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > involved in even one scandal. He respects

> > > > everyone and

> > > > > > > > also does

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > charity work. But, he is not educated

well.

> > But

> > > > since

> > > > > > > > Moon is in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagna with Jupiter, he is sweet and soft

in

> > > > speech and

> > > > > > > > has good

> > > > > > > > > > > > > mind.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But he is also very brave and courageous,

> > because

> > > > > > Mars in

> > > > > > > > own

> > > > > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Sun exalted. He is known to have dealt

> > with

> > > > his

> > > > > > > > enemies in

> > > > > > > > > > real-

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > estate business with an iron hand. But its

> > > > > > interesting to

> > > > > > > > see

> > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not well educated.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Personal Conclusions about Jupiter in

> > Lagna:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a. Jupiter in Lagna definitely makes one

have

> > > > sweet

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > dignified

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > speech. He talks very sensibly and like a

> > learned

> > > > > > person.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > b. Respects traditions and elders.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > c. Very knowledgeable (not sure about

> > education

> > > > > > though).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > d. Gives some kind of artistic nature

(music,

> > > > speech,

> > > > > > > > poetry,

> > > > > > > > > > etc),

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > though not like venus.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > > , " Sreenadh "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us start discussing the effects of

> > Jupiter

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > Lagna. The

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lawyers/thread-owners for this thread

are

> > Pt.

> > > > Arjun

> > > > > > ji

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Srinivas

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ji.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They have the full right to argue in

favor

> > of

> > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > and its

> > > > > > > > > > > > > power

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > produce identifiable results when

placed in

> > > > Lagna.

> > > > > > Try

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > argue

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > against

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > him or in support of them - validate the

> > results

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > your own

> > > > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the charts known to you. I will start

the

> > > > discussion

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > minimum

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > inputs

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (fro Bhrigu sutra)-

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter is present in lagna the

native

> > > > would be

> > > > > > > > versatile

> > > > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sound or linguistic related knowledge

> > branches

> > > > such

> > > > > > as -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Vyakarana,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarka, oratory or the like. If Jupiter

is in

> > > > Cancer

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > said

> > > > > > > > > > > > > results

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will happen for sure.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter is in Lagna - the native

will

> > have

> > > > good

> > > > > > > > longevity

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > great luck at or after the age of 16

years.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * If Jupiter in Lagna is aspected by

malefic

> > > > > > planets or

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > debilitation or with malefics in enemy

> > house -

> > > > he

> > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > interested in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing bad deeds. His mind wavering,

> > longevity -

> > > > > > middle

> > > > > > > > age,

> > > > > > > > > > too

> > > > > > > > > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > travel, egotic, no children, he will

> > discard his

> > > > > > > > relatives or

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > relatives may discard him, he will say

bad

> > words

> > > > > > > > against good

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > people,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sadness and sufferings will prevail.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, here goes our group - Jupiter

> > Centric..

> > > > > > Hurah,

> > > > > > > > to the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thread of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pt. Arjun ji and Srinivas ji.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Sunilji, you are right he was born to a very respectful family rather i can say his grandfather was very very rich. I had read somewhere that Rahu behaves like the planet he is in company with and has more of jupiter results. So i thought it didn't make much difference but now that you pointed out, effects of Rahu must be prevalent in the native because nobody trusts him.When he was young he contantly ran away from home and after few years he used to come back.He used rob from his house only and sell it outside. He works for the state government now and he is very skillful. He is good and helpful person but he has a reputation to lie and he used to cheat a lot. For eg he takes loan saying he will return in a week but he will never return.He is constantly into debts. He has to booze everyday and smokes a lot. Agnimaruta yoga i am not aware of its effects, but from past 3-4 yrs he simply says i am not

keeping well and goes and admits in the hospital.He suffers from gastritis and tooth problems.he has spent lakhs on hospitalization. Saturn being the 4th & 5th Lord and mars being the 2nd and 7th Lord what i have seen is his wife was very adjusting and all these years she was very caring towards him. But now from past 3-4 yrs she has started to rebel{:-> He has 2 sons, eldest can't stand his father. They are constantly locking horns with each other and mother takes the support of her son against her husband now a days. He is running Ketu dasha & it doesn't seem to be very good either. Thank you sunilji, it has been a learning process and i have opened up to new avenues of thoughts by reading your mails and i like the way sreenadh ji explains ( his writing skills are amazing) Thanx n' rgds Maligeresunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: Hare ramakrishna , dear maligere ji , Jup is not alone in lagna but with a dire malefic rahu ( in north its knows as guru chandal yoga ) .So rsults attributed to single jup in lagna how is it possible . also sani and mars forming agni maruta yoga ( so the houses involved can suffer ) also this yoga has no benefic aspects . ( u hav to giv us feed back ) . also born in jup -merc period .then this sat dasa ( Athi balavasta or atma karaka planet ) ( tho yoga karaka ) also in marak house then merc ( 64th navamsa and 22nd drekkana Lord) and then ketu in 7th dasa ( another maraka place ) , But i think he must hav born in good

family ?? giv us ur feed back with full detailed analsysis . any way jup in lagna is not applicable as other influnces r there . regrds sunil nair om shreem maha laxmai namah . , "M.A" <maligere wrote:>> Dear Sunilji,pundit ji > > This is the details of a person who has jupiter in lagna, i have not seen any of the benefits that is been discussed here in this thread

for this person. I can say he has seen nothing but difficulties in life, his health is also nothing to boast about.> " saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an attractive personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and espectable name" > > This statement is totally opposite of what i have seen in this persons life> > Name : Sreenivas> Natal Chart> September 9, 1958> Time: 10:10:00 am> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 76 E 05' 00", 13 N 00' 00"> Hassan, India> Altitude: 0.00 meters> Lunar Yr-Mo: Vilamba - Nija Sravana> Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (77.75% left)> Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)> Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (59.56% left)> Yoga: Variyan (Ju) (89.14% left)> Karana: Bava (Su) (55.51% left)> Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Cn)> Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> Kaala Lord: Mercury

(Mahakala: Mercury)> Sunrise: 6:18:07 am> Sunset: 6:28:06 pm> Janma Ghatis: 9.6618> Ayanamsa: 23-16-55.29> Sidereal Time: 8:55:15> > Thanx n' rgds> Maligere> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > Hare rama krishna ,> dear pundit ji ,> > yes ,it says guru lagna can counter 1 crore doshas -laksham dosham guru hanti .> > what if its in actual experiences .for exmaple i wanted to know more abt taurus lagna with guru as guru is 8th Lord and his mool trikon sign also 8th house .> > any memebrs has any charts ?? I think latha mangeshwar ji is taurus lagna .> > > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > , "panditarjun2004" panditarjun2004@ wrote:> >> > dear vijayji> > > > your mail with example

charts and the lives of the natives with > > jupiter in lagna from your database is informative and appreciated.> > > > lord rama has jupiter in lagna. some notable people with jupiter in > > lagna are as follows:> > > > 1. bharatratna lata mangeshkar> > 2. erstwhile mysore maharaja krishnaraja wadiyar IV> > 3. tata group founder JRD tata> > 4. former chief minister and actor N T Ramarao> > 5. Sri Aurobindo> > 6. kanchi sankaracharya sri vijayendra saraswati> > 7. former prime minister rajiv gandhi> > 8. emperor akbar> > 9. emperor aurangazeb> > 10. tennis star sania mirza> > > > the above varied list contains emperors, rajas, prime minsiters, > > business tycoons, actors, singers, sportspersons and even saints.> > > > saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an

attractive > > personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and respectable > > name.> > > > jupiter in lagna is perceived as positive by most if not all > > astrologers. even those few who say guru spoils lagna by sitting in > > lagna say that his benefic aspect on 5, 7 and 9 houses (one quadrant > > and two trines) is auspicious for the native.> > > > as mentioned by tatvamasiji in one of his mails earlier, jupiter is > > unanimously considered giving positive benfits on all the three > > houses he aspect.> > > > the title "jeeva" or enlivener is granted by lord shiva to jupiter > > and naturally jupiter is a natural benefic.> > > > an axiom says guru in kendra negates one lakh doshams.> > > > with best wishes and blessings> > pandit arjun> > > > >

> , "Vijay" > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > > > > > Its been long time since I visited the group, but its really great > > to > > > get hundreds of messages in my Inbox. I went thru most of them and > > > currently started to seriously go thru the files section of this > > > group, which is really very useful. Regarding Jupiter in Lagna I > > > searched thru some of my database and found some interesting cases. > > > Here, I shall give the details of their birth and their > > > characteristics rather than important events in their life, because > > > as we all know jupiter in lagna ALONE has little to do with the > > > events in their lives. For the events in their lives we have to > > > consider all other effects,

which is out of the scope of the > > present > > > discussion. The persons have clarified with me about their > > characters.> > > > > > 1. IAS Officer (came with problems in health and political problems > > > in job):> > > > > > June-23-1956, 11.05 am, Gudibanda, India, 77.41.E, 13.40.N.> > > Character: I predicted he is very upright officer and very dynamic > > > because Jupiter in Leo Lagna makes one not just honest (which is > > why > > > he was transferred every 2 years by political persons and even got > > > death threats), but also very dynamic and knows how to control > > > people. He was very sweet in speech and very decent but at the same > > > time he seemed dominating (because Mars in 7th house). He said he > > is > > > feared in his circle because he is

very honest and he is also not > > > scared of goondas and death threats. He was a primary school > > teacher > > > in a village before he became an IAS Officer. He seems to be > > > sincerely dedicated to work and as he was workoholic he had health > > > problems. He was a very good poet and has published a poetry book > > > (this was my mother's prediction and he was astonished, even I was > > > astonished). Also the way he speaks is really astonishing, very > > clear > > > and dignified in speech and when he talks you feel he is really > > > intelligent and a very dignified person.> > > > > > 2. April-16-1986, 03.42, Hubli, India, student.> > > (parents came with problem of whether he will join a professional > > > course or not, which my mother predicted he will, seeing not only > >

> jupiter in lagna but also his good sidhamsha). But character wise, > > he > > > seems to be very soft and lively person, and since there isnt any > > > direct influence on Jupiter, we can safely say he is very > > righteous, > > > and disciplined and respects elders. The parents said indeed he was > > a > > > very soft-spoken and honest kid and very much respects all > > > traditions. Since he was also running Jupiter dasha, he didnt have > > > any sort of problems in his education. Also he plays tabla at > > various > > > competitions.> > > > > > 3. April-16-1953, 09.10, Bangalore, MLC (Member of Legislative > > > Council),> > > > > > He came to ask whether he will win election (MP), but my mother > > said > > > he will not but he will still be in

politics, and he went to > > politics > > > thru backdoor (became MLC). He is widely known by public to be > > > corrupt and goonda. But my mother said completely opposite, that he > > > is very soft, honest, righteous, does charity works, and sincere to > > > his wife. He was shell-shocked and almost went into tears. He said > > he > > > was pained at people calling him names, as he was very sincere. He > > > said he had earned money thru hard work in real estate business and > > > then was stepping into politics now, but people thought he made all > > > that money in politics since he was also uneducated. He is not > > > involved in even one scandal. He respects everyone and also does > > > charity work. But, he is not educated well. But since Moon is in > > > lagna with Jupiter, he is sweet and soft in speech

and has good > > mind. > > > But he is also very brave and courageous, because Mars in own house > > > and Sun exalted. He is known to have dealt with his enemies in real-> > > estate business with an iron hand. But its interesting to see that > > he > > > is not well educated.> > > > > > My Personal Conclusions about Jupiter in Lagna:> > > a. Jupiter in Lagna definitely makes one have sweet and dignified > > > speech. He talks very sensibly and like a learned person.> > > b. Respects traditions and elders.> > > c. Very knowledgeable (not sure about education though).> > > d. Gives some kind of artistic nature (music, speech, poetry, etc), > > > though not like venus.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Vijay.> > > > > > --- In

, "Sreenadh" > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear All,> > > > Let us start discussing the effects of Jupiter in Lagna. The> > > > lawyers/thread-owners for this thread are Pt. Arjun ji and > > Srinivas > > > ji. > > > > They have the full right to argue in favor of Jupiter and its > > power > > > to> > > > produce identifiable results when placed in Lagna. Try to argue > > > against> > > > him or in support of them - validate the results with your own or > > > with> > > > the charts known to you. I will start the discussion with minimum > > > inputs> > > > (fro Bhrigu sutra)-> > > > * If Jupiter is present in lagna the native would be versatile > > in>

> > > sound or linguistic related knowledge branches such as - > > Vyakarana,> > > > Tarka, oratory or the like. If Jupiter is in Cancer the said > > results> > > > will happen for sure.> > > > * If Jupiter is in Lagna - the native will have good longevity > > > and> > > > great luck at or after the age of 16 years.> > > > * If Jupiter in Lagna is aspected by malefic planets or in> > > > debilitation or with malefics in enemy house - he would be > > > interested in> > > > doing bad deeds. His mind wavering, longevity - middle age, too > > much> > > > travel, egotic, no children, he will discard his relatives or the> > > > relatives may discard him, he will say bad words against good > > > people,> > > > sadness and sufferings will

prevail.> > > > So, here goes our group - Jupiter Centric.. Hurah, to the > > > thread of> > > > Pt. Arjun ji and Srinivas ji. > > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.>

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Sreenadh ji , you hit the nail on the head!!! you are absolutely correct...all through his life he has seen nothing but trials and misery but since he is born to a royal family he has this false prestige that keeps him going. But i would like to draw your attention to one fact all his miseries are self made. He got into wrong company wrong thoughts etcNever listened to elders advice. Thanx n' rgds Maligere Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Chandramouliswer ji and Neelam Gupta ji, I am attracting your attention to this chart provided by Maligere ji. A typical case similar to the one mentioned in my previous mail to Chandramouliswar ji with Libra Lagna, Punarvasu Nakshatra and Jupiter dasa running at the time of birth! To quote my previous statement -==>Note that, if Libra is Lagna, Jupiter Dasa running at birth time (e.g. People born in Punarvasu, Visakha, Purva Bhadrapada), and if there is a malefic in 11 or 12th from Aries (i.e. considering Natural horoscope) then most possibly the native

would be handicapped - a result enhanced by lordship of Jupiter for 3rd and 6th houses!! And you say that Jupiter will not give any bad results for Libra lagna!!! <== Any way, note that out of the above parameters quoted - "Malefic in 11th or 12th from Aries" is missing in this case - that much good for him. But still not much good since the 2nd house from Natural Horoscope (Taurus) and 2nd house from Natal chart (Scorpio) - both afflicted; and everything related to 2nd house suffering (getting handicapped- can be interpreted as 'only slightly materializing'). And for him Jupiter is in Lagna afflicted by Rahu! (Jupiter and Rahu in Lagna - 2 points we are currently discussing!) ==>> " saravali says Jupiter in lagna gives the native an attractive personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and expectable name" >

This statement is totally opposite of what i have seen in this persons life<== The problem is NOT with the books but with the understanding. Note that the result experienced and the suffering was 'already expected' for the above combination, as per the above statement given by me in my previous mail. * First - the dasa of this nasty Jupiter (owner of 3rd and 6th) * Second - the dasa of Saturn for long 19 year - a Saturn that with sitting with Gk (dangerous!) and is in Agnimaruta yoga (aspected by Mars) and make things worse sitting in 2nd house (the house signifying wealth, face, family and what not)! By now he would be 29 yrs of age - and was in misery - 29 yrs gone. * Now comes the dasa of Mercury in 11th with navamsa in 8th from Lagna; the dasa of the owner of the 9th and 12th lord. Since the Moolatrikona sign of Mercury is Virgo -

the effect of 12th house will take effect for the first half (8.5 years) and lost again is 8 years and by now he is 37.5 years. Anyway from 37.5 to 46 years it would be moderatly good time. But what use of it all, and what can be expected at this late age?! * There on for 7 years it is the dasa of Ketu in 7th and 7th lord Mars fallen in 8th. Again gone are 7 years. Age 53 yrs. Now what more can you expect from this horoscope?!Love and regards,Sreenadh , "M.A" <maligere wrote:>> Dear Sunilji,pundit ji > > This is the details of a person who has jupiter in lagna, i have not seen any of the benefits that is been discussed here in this thread for this person. I can say he has seen nothing but difficulties in life, his health is also nothing to boast about.> "

saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an attractive personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and espectable name" > > This statement is totally opposite of what i have seen in this persons life> > Name : Sreenivas> Natal Chart> September 9, 1958> Time: 10:10:00 am> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 76 E 05' 00", 13 N 00' 00"> Hassan, India> Altitude: 0.00 meters> Lunar Yr-Mo: Vilamba - Nija Sravana> Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (77.75% left)> Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)> Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (59.56% left)> Yoga: Variyan (Ju) (89.14% left)> Karana: Bava (Su) (55.51% left)> Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Cn)> Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)> Sunrise: 6:18:07 am> Sunset: 6:28:06 pm> Janma Ghatis: 9.6618> Ayanamsa:

23-16-55.29> Sidereal Time: 8:55:15> > Thanx n' rgds> Maligere> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > Hare rama krishna ,> dear pundit ji ,> > yes ,it says guru lagna can counter 1 crore doshas -laksham dosham guru hanti .> > what if its in actual experiences .for exmaple i wanted to know more abt taurus lagna with guru as guru is 8th Lord and his mool trikon sign also 8th house .> > any memebrs has any charts ?? I think latha mangeshwar ji is taurus lagna .> > > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > , "panditarjun2004" panditarjun2004@ wrote:> >> > dear vijayji> > > > your mail with example charts and the lives of the natives with > > jupiter in lagna from your database is informative and

appreciated.> > > > lord rama has jupiter in lagna. some notable people with jupiter in > > lagna are as follows:> > > > 1. bharatratna lata mangeshkar> > 2. erstwhile mysore maharaja krishnaraja wadiyar IV> > 3. tata group founder JRD tata> > 4. former chief minister and actor N T Ramarao> > 5. Sri Aurobindo> > 6. kanchi sankaracharya sri vijayendra saraswati> > 7. former prime minister rajiv gandhi> > 8. emperor akbar> > 9. emperor aurangazeb> > 10. tennis star sania mirza> > > > the above varied list contains emperors, rajas, prime minsiters, > > business tycoons, actors, singers, sportspersons and even saints.> > > > saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an attractive > > personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and respectable > >

name.> > > > jupiter in lagna is perceived as positive by most if not all > > astrologers. even those few who say guru spoils lagna by sitting in > > lagna say that his benefic aspect on 5, 7 and 9 houses (one quadrant > > and two trines) is auspicious for the native.> > > > as mentioned by tatvamasiji in one of his mails earlier, jupiter is > > unanimously considered giving positive benfits on all the three > > houses he aspect.> > > > the title "jeeva" or enlivener is granted by lord shiva to jupiter > > and naturally jupiter is a natural benefic.> > > > an axiom says guru in kendra negates one lakh doshams.> > > > with best wishes and blessings> > pandit arjun> > > > > > , "Vijay" > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:>

> >> > > Dear All,> > > > > > Its been long time since I visited the group, but its really great > > to > > > get hundreds of messages in my Inbox. I went thru most of them and > > > currently started to seriously go thru the files section of this > > > group, which is really very useful. Regarding Jupiter in Lagna I > > > searched thru some of my database and found some interesting cases. > > > Here, I shall give the details of their birth and their > > > characteristics rather than important events in their life, because > > > as we all know jupiter in lagna ALONE has little to do with the > > > events in their lives. For the events in their lives we have to > > > consider all other effects, which is out of the scope of the > > present > > > discussion. The persons have clarified

with me about their > > characters.> > > > > > 1. IAS Officer (came with problems in health and political problems > > > in job):> > > > > > June-23-1956, 11.05 am, Gudibanda, India, 77.41.E, 13.40.N.> > > Character: I predicted he is very upright officer and very dynamic > > > because Jupiter in Leo Lagna makes one not just honest (which is > > why > > > he was transferred every 2 years by political persons and even got > > > death threats), but also very dynamic and knows how to control > > > people. He was very sweet in speech and very decent but at the same > > > time he seemed dominating (because Mars in 7th house). He said he > > is > > > feared in his circle because he is very honest and he is also not > > > scared of goondas and death threats. He was a primary school

> > teacher > > > in a village before he became an IAS Officer. He seems to be > > > sincerely dedicated to work and as he was workoholic he had health > > > problems. He was a very good poet and has published a poetry book > > > (this was my mother's prediction and he was astonished, even I was > > > astonished). Also the way he speaks is really astonishing, very > > clear > > > and dignified in speech and when he talks you feel he is really > > > intelligent and a very dignified person.> > > > > > 2. April-16-1986, 03.42, Hubli, India, student.> > > (parents came with problem of whether he will join a professional > > > course or not, which my mother predicted he will, seeing not only > > > jupiter in lagna but also his good sidhamsha). But character wise, > > he > > > seems

to be very soft and lively person, and since there isnt any > > > direct influence on Jupiter, we can safely say he is very > > righteous, > > > and disciplined and respects elders. The parents said indeed he was > > a > > > very soft-spoken and honest kid and very much respects all > > > traditions. Since he was also running Jupiter dasha, he didnt have > > > any sort of problems in his education. Also he plays tabla at > > various > > > competitions.> > > > > > 3. April-16-1953, 09.10, Bangalore, MLC (Member of Legislative > > > Council),> > > > > > He came to ask whether he will win election (MP), but my mother > > said > > > he will not but he will still be in politics, and he went to > > politics > > > thru backdoor (became MLC). He is widely known by

public to be > > > corrupt and goonda. But my mother said completely opposite, that he > > > is very soft, honest, righteous, does charity works, and sincere to > > > his wife. He was shell-shocked and almost went into tears. He said > > he > > > was pained at people calling him names, as he was very sincere. He > > > said he had earned money thru hard work in real estate business and > > > then was stepping into politics now, but people thought he made all > > > that money in politics since he was also uneducated. He is not > > > involved in even one scandal. He respects everyone and also does > > > charity work. But, he is not educated well. But since Moon is in > > > lagna with Jupiter, he is sweet and soft in speech and has good > > mind. > > > But he is also very brave and courageous, because Mars in own

house > > > and Sun exalted. He is known to have dealt with his enemies in real-> > > estate business with an iron hand. But its interesting to see that > > he > > > is not well educated.> > > > > > My Personal Conclusions about Jupiter in Lagna:> > > a. Jupiter in Lagna definitely makes one have sweet and dignified > > > speech. He talks very sensibly and like a learned person.> > > b. Respects traditions and elders.> > > c. Very knowledgeable (not sure about education though).> > > d. Gives some kind of artistic nature (music, speech, poetry, etc), > > > though not like venus.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Vijay.> > > > > > , "Sreenadh" > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > >> >

> > Dear All,> > > > Let us start discussing the effects of Jupiter in Lagna. The> > > > lawyers/thread-owners for this thread are Pt. Arjun ji and > > Srinivas > > > ji. > > > > They have the full right to argue in favor of Jupiter and its > > power > > > to> > > > produce identifiable results when placed in Lagna. Try to argue > > > against> > > > him or in support of them - validate the results with your own or > > > with> > > > the charts known to you. I will start the discussion with minimum > > > inputs> > > > (fro Bhrigu sutra)-> > > > * If Jupiter is present in lagna the native would be versatile > > in> > > > sound or linguistic related knowledge branches such as - > > Vyakarana,> > > > Tarka,

oratory or the like. If Jupiter is in Cancer the said > > results> > > > will happen for sure.> > > > * If Jupiter is in Lagna - the native will have good longevity > > > and> > > > great luck at or after the age of 16 years.> > > > * If Jupiter in Lagna is aspected by malefic planets or in> > > > debilitation or with malefics in enemy house - he would be > > > interested in> > > > doing bad deeds. His mind wavering, longevity - middle age, too > > much> > > > travel, egotic, no children, he will discard his relatives or the> > > > relatives may discard him, he will say bad words against good > > > people,> > > > sadness and sufferings will prevail.> > > > So, here goes our group - Jupiter Centric.. Hurah, to the > > > thread of> >

> > Pt. Arjun ji and Srinivas ji. > > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.>

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Dear Panditji, He didn't study beyond class 12, he is employed with the state government, he is very skillful and artistic.he has solution for any problem related to electrical and electronic items.He is living in rented house and has no asset ( movable or immovable) absolutely. From past 3-4 yrs marital life is stressful aggravated from past 1 year. he has 2 sons. Thanx n' rgds Maligerepanditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear maligerejiplease furnish more details of this native like his education, employment, marital life, children and financial status, living in rented or own home etc. so that we can draw some inference as to whether or why jupiter in lagna failed to help this native.with best wishes and

blessingspandit arjun , "M.A" wrote:>> Dear Sunilji,pundit ji > > This is the details of a person who has jupiter in lagna, i have not seen any of the benefits that is been discussed here in this thread for this person. I can say he has seen nothing but difficulties in life, his health is also nothing to boast about.> " saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an attractive personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and espectable name" > > This statement is totally opposite of what i have seen in this persons life> > Name : Sreenivas> Natal Chart> September 9, 1958> Time: 10:10:00 am> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 76 E 05' 00", 13 N 00' 00"> Hassan, India> Altitude: 0.00 meters> Lunar Yr-Mo: Vilamba - Nija Sravana>

Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (77.75% left)> Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)> Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (59.56% left)> Yoga: Variyan (Ju) (89.14% left)> Karana: Bava (Su) (55.51% left)> Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Cn)> Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)> Sunrise: 6:18:07 am> Sunset: 6:28:06 pm> Janma Ghatis: 9.6618> Ayanamsa: 23-16-55.29> Sidereal Time: 8:55:15> > Thanx n' rgds> Maligere> > sunil nair wrote:> > Hare rama krishna ,> dear pundit ji ,> > yes ,it says guru lagna can counter 1 crore doshas -laksham dosham guru hanti .> > what if its in actual experiences .for exmaple i wanted to know more abt taurus lagna with guru as guru is 8th Lord and his mool trikon sign also 8th house .> > any memebrs has any

charts ?? I think latha mangeshwar ji is taurus lagna .> > > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > , "panditarjun2004" wrote:> >> > dear vijayji> > > > your mail with example charts and the lives of the natives with > > jupiter in lagna from your database is informative and appreciated.> > > > lord rama has jupiter in lagna. some notable people with jupiter in > > lagna are as follows:> > > > 1. bharatratna lata mangeshkar> > 2. erstwhile mysore maharaja krishnaraja wadiyar IV> > 3. tata group founder JRD tata> > 4. former chief minister and actor N T Ramarao> > 5. Sri Aurobindo> > 6. kanchi sankaracharya sri vijayendra saraswati> > 7. former prime minister rajiv

gandhi> > 8. emperor akbar> > 9. emperor aurangazeb> > 10. tennis star sania mirza> > > > the above varied list contains emperors, rajas, prime minsiters, > > business tycoons, actors, singers, sportspersons and even saints.> > > > saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an attractive > > personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and respectable > > name.> > > > jupiter in lagna is perceived as positive by most if not all > > astrologers. even those few who say guru spoils lagna by sitting in > > lagna say that his benefic aspect on 5, 7 and 9 houses (one quadrant > > and two trines) is auspicious for the native.> > > > as mentioned by tatvamasiji in one of his mails earlier, jupiter is > > unanimously considered giving positive benfits on all the three >

> houses he aspect.> > > > the title "jeeva" or enlivener is granted by lord shiva to jupiter > > and naturally jupiter is a natural benefic.> > > > an axiom says guru in kendra negates one lakh doshams.> > > > with best wishes and blessings> > pandit arjun> > > > > > , "Vijay" > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > > > > > Its been long time since I visited the group, but its really great > > to > > > get hundreds of messages in my Inbox. I went thru most of them and > > > currently started to seriously go thru the files section of this > > > group, which is really very useful. Regarding Jupiter in Lagna I > > > searched thru some of my database and found some

interesting cases. > > > Here, I shall give the details of their birth and their > > > characteristics rather than important events in their life, because > > > as we all know jupiter in lagna ALONE has little to do with the > > > events in their lives. For the events in their lives we have to > > > consider all other effects, which is out of the scope of the > > present > > > discussion. The persons have clarified with me about their > > characters.> > > > > > 1. IAS Officer (came with problems in health and political problems > > > in job):> > > > > > June-23-1956, 11.05 am, Gudibanda, India, 77.41.E, 13.40.N.> > > Character: I predicted he is very upright officer and very dynamic > > > because Jupiter in Leo Lagna makes one not just honest (which is > >

why > > > he was transferred every 2 years by political persons and even got > > > death threats), but also very dynamic and knows how to control > > > people. He was very sweet in speech and very decent but at the same > > > time he seemed dominating (because Mars in 7th house). He said he > > is > > > feared in his circle because he is very honest and he is also not > > > scared of goondas and death threats. He was a primary school > > teacher > > > in a village before he became an IAS Officer. He seems to be > > > sincerely dedicated to work and as he was workoholic he had health > > > problems. He was a very good poet and has published a poetry book > > > (this was my mother's prediction and he was astonished, even I was > > > astonished). Also the way he speaks is really

astonishing, very > > clear > > > and dignified in speech and when he talks you feel he is really > > > intelligent and a very dignified person.> > > > > > 2. April-16-1986, 03.42, Hubli, India, student.> > > (parents came with problem of whether he will join a professional > > > course or not, which my mother predicted he will, seeing not only > > > jupiter in lagna but also his good sidhamsha). But character wise, > > he > > > seems to be very soft and lively person, and since there isnt any > > > direct influence on Jupiter, we can safely say he is very > > righteous, > > > and disciplined and respects elders. The parents said indeed he was > > a > > > very soft-spoken and honest kid and very much respects all > > > traditions. Since he was also running

Jupiter dasha, he didnt have > > > any sort of problems in his education. Also he plays tabla at > > various > > > competitions.> > > > > > 3. April-16-1953, 09.10, Bangalore, MLC (Member of Legislative > > > Council),> > > > > > He came to ask whether he will win election (MP), but my mother > > said > > > he will not but he will still be in politics, and he went to > > politics > > > thru backdoor (became MLC). He is widely known by public to be > > > corrupt and goonda. But my mother said completely opposite, that he > > > is very soft, honest, righteous, does charity works, and sincere to > > > his wife. He was shell-shocked and almost went into tears. He said > > he > > > was pained at people calling him names, as he was very sincere. He

> > > said he had earned money thru hard work in real estate business and > > > then was stepping into politics now, but people thought he made all > > > that money in politics since he was also uneducated. He is not > > > involved in even one scandal. He respects everyone and also does > > > charity work. But, he is not educated well. But since Moon is in > > > lagna with Jupiter, he is sweet and soft in speech and has good > > mind. > > > But he is also very brave and courageous, because Mars in own house > > > and Sun exalted. He is known to have dealt with his enemies in real-> > > estate business with an iron hand. But its interesting to see that > > he > > > is not well educated.> > > > > > My Personal Conclusions about Jupiter in Lagna:> > > a. Jupiter

in Lagna definitely makes one have sweet and dignified > > > speech. He talks very sensibly and like a learned person.> > > b. Respects traditions and elders.> > > c. Very knowledgeable (not sure about education though).> > > d. Gives some kind of artistic nature (music, speech, poetry, etc), > > > though not like venus.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Vijay.> > > > > > , "Sreenadh" > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear All,> > > > Let us start discussing the effects of Jupiter in Lagna. The> > > > lawyers/thread-owners for this thread are Pt. Arjun ji and > > Srinivas > > > ji. > > > > They have the full right to argue in favor of Jupiter and its > > power > >

> to> > > > produce identifiable results when placed in Lagna. Try to argue > > > against> > > > him or in support of them - validate the results with your own or > > > with> > > > the charts known to you. I will start the discussion with minimum > > > inputs> > > > (fro Bhrigu sutra)-> > > > * If Jupiter is present in lagna the native would be versatile > > in> > > > sound or linguistic related knowledge branches such as - > > Vyakarana,> > > > Tarka, oratory or the like. If Jupiter is in Cancer the said > > results> > > > will happen for sure.> > > > * If Jupiter is in Lagna - the native will have good longevity > > > and> > > > great luck at or after the age of 16 years.> > > > * If Jupiter in

Lagna is aspected by malefic planets or in> > > > debilitation or with malefics in enemy house - he would be > > > interested in> > > > doing bad deeds. His mind wavering, longevity - middle age, too > > much> > > > travel, egotic, no children, he will discard his relatives or the> > > > relatives may discard him, he will say bad words against good > > > people,> > > > sadness and sufferings will prevail.> > > > So, here goes our group - Jupiter Centric.. Hurah, to the > > > thread of> > > > Pt. Arjun ji and Srinivas ji. > > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with

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Hare ramakrishna ,

dear Maligere ji .

 

 

rahu behaves like planets in conjnction ,But rahu dasa is far away and this jup is 3rd and 6th Lord ,so functional malefic .

 

The 2nd house and Lord afflicted and the karaka jup afflicted is may b the reason s to hav bad food (means taking liquor ) and lieing etc .

 

His agni maruta Yoga ( aspect between sani and mars is bad ) and all the Bhavs owned by sani and mars is suffering and even the palcements also can destroy those bhavas ,its also without any benefic aspect and now ketu dasa is running and coming periods may be bad for marriage longitivity also esp rahu ,sani and merc sub periods .

 

The house of frnds 11th is having so many good planets and u can see he has so many frnds ,but same sani and mars is influencing here also ,so end up in bad company .

The planet of idealism afflicted ( jup ) also in lagna ,this may be the reason he dont wanted to change .so many good planets in 11th is still promising an income .

 

How is his younger co borns and his relations with them .

 

The rest depends on dasas and transits .It requires detailed analsysis .

 

regrds sunil nair .

 

Om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

 

 

, "M.A" <maligere wrote:>> Sunilji, you are right he was born to a very respectful family rather i can say his grandfather was very very rich. I had read somewhere that Rahu behaves like the planet he is in company with and has more of jupiter results. So i thought it didn't make much difference but now that you pointed out, effects of Rahu must be prevalent in the native because nobody trusts him.When he was young he contantly ran away from home and after few years he used to come back.He used rob from his house only and sell it outside.> > He works for the state government now and he is very skillful. He is good and helpful person but he has a reputation to lie and he used to cheat a lot. For eg he takes loan saying he will return in a week but he will never return.He is constantly into debts. He has to booze everyday and smokes a lot.> > Agnimaruta yoga i am not aware of its effects, but from past 3-4 yrs he simply says i am not keeping well and goes and admits in the hospital.He suffers from gastritis and tooth problems.he has spent lakhs on hospitalization.> > Saturn being the 4th & 5th Lord and mars being the 2nd and 7th Lord what i have seen is his wife was very adjusting and all these years she was very caring towards him. But now from past 3-4 yrs she has started to rebel{:->> > He has 2 sons, eldest can't stand his father. They are constantly locking horns with each other and mother takes the support of her son against her husband now a days.> > He is running Ketu dasha & it doesn't seem to be very good either.> > Thank you sunilji, it has been a learning process and i have opened up to new avenues of thoughts by reading your mails and i like the way sreenadh ji explains ( his writing skills are amazing)> > Thanx n' rgds> Maligere> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > Hare ramakrishna ,> dear maligere ji ,> > Jup is not alone in lagna but with a dire malefic rahu ( in north its knows as guru chandal yoga ) .So rsults attributed to single jup in lagna how is it possible .> > also sani and mars forming agni maruta yoga ( so the houses involved can suffer ) also this yoga has no benefic aspects . ( u hav to giv us feed back ) .> > also born in jup -merc period .then this sat dasa ( Athi balavasta or atma karaka planet ) ( tho yoga karaka ) also in marak house then merc ( 64th navamsa and 22nd drekkana Lord) and then ketu in 7th dasa ( another maraka place ) ,> > But i think he must hav born in good family ??> > giv us ur feed back with full detailed analsysis .> > any way jup in lagna is not applicable as other influnces r there .> > regrds sunil nair > om shreem maha laxmai namah .> > > , "M.A" maligere@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sunilji,pundit ji > > > > This is the details of a person who has jupiter in lagna, i have not seen any of the benefits that is been discussed here in this thread for this person. I can say he has seen nothing but difficulties in life, his health is also nothing to boast about.> > " saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an attractive personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and espectable name" > > > > This statement is totally opposite of what i have seen in this persons life> > > > Name : Sreenivas> > Natal Chart> > September 9, 1958> > Time: 10:10:00 am> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 76 E 05' 00", 13 N 00' 00"> > Hassan, India> > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vilamba - Nija Sravana> > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (77.75% left)> > Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)> > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (59.56% left)> > Yoga: Variyan (Ju) (89.14% left)> > Karana: Bava (Su) (55.51% left)> > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Cn)> > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> > Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)> > Sunrise: 6:18:07 am> > Sunset: 6:28:06 pm> > Janma Ghatis: 9.6618> > Ayanamsa: 23-16-55.29> > Sidereal Time: 8:55:15> > > > Thanx n' rgds> > Maligere> > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > dear pundit ji ,> > > > yes ,it says guru lagna can counter 1 crore doshas -laksham dosham guru hanti .> > > > what if its in actual experiences .for exmaple i wanted to know more abt taurus lagna with guru as guru is 8th Lord and his mool trikon sign also 8th house .> > > > any memebrs has any charts ?? I think latha mangeshwar ji is taurus lagna .> > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" panditarjun2004@ wrote:> > >> > > dear vijayji> > > > > > your mail with example charts and the lives of the natives with > > > jupiter in lagna from your database is informative and appreciated.> > > > > > lord rama has jupiter in lagna. some notable people with jupiter in > > > lagna are as follows:> > > > > > 1. bharatratna lata mangeshkar> > > 2. erstwhile mysore maharaja krishnaraja wadiyar IV> > > 3. tata group founder JRD tata> > > 4. former chief minister and actor N T Ramarao> > > 5. Sri Aurobindo> > > 6. kanchi sankaracharya sri vijayendra saraswati> > > 7. former prime minister rajiv gandhi> > > 8. emperor akbar> > > 9. emperor aurangazeb> > > 10. tennis star sania mirza> > > > > > the above varied list contains emperors, rajas, prime minsiters, > > > business tycoons, actors, singers, sportspersons and even saints.> > > > > > saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an attractive > > > personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and respectable > > > name.> > > > > > jupiter in lagna is perceived as positive by most if not all > > > astrologers. even those few who say guru spoils lagna by sitting in > > > lagna say that his benefic aspect on 5, 7 and 9 houses (one quadrant > > > and two trines) is auspicious for the native.> > > > > > as mentioned by tatvamasiji in one of his mails earlier, jupiter is > > > unanimously considered giving positive benfits on all the three > > > houses he aspect.> > > > > > the title "jeeva" or enlivener is granted by lord shiva to jupiter > > > and naturally jupiter is a natural benefic.> > > > > > an axiom says guru in kendra negates one lakh doshams.> > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > pandit arjun> > > > > > > > > , "Vijay" > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > Its been long time since I visited the group, but its really great > > > to > > > > get hundreds of messages in my Inbox. I went thru most of them and > > > > currently started to seriously go thru the files section of this > > > > group, which is really very useful. Regarding Jupiter in Lagna I > > > > searched thru some of my database and found some interesting cases. > > > > Here, I shall give the details of their birth and their > > > > characteristics rather than important events in their life, because > > > > as we all know jupiter in lagna ALONE has little to do with the > > > > events in their lives. For the events in their lives we have to > > > > consider all other effects, which is out of the scope of the > > > present > > > > discussion. The persons have clarified with me about their > > > characters.> > > > > > > > 1. IAS Officer (came with problems in health and political problems > > > > in job):> > > > > > > > June-23-1956, 11.05 am, Gudibanda, India, 77.41.E, 13.40.N.> > > > Character: I predicted he is very upright officer and very dynamic > > > > because Jupiter in Leo Lagna makes one not just honest (which is > > > why > > > > he was transferred every 2 years by political persons and even got > > > > death threats), but also very dynamic and knows how to control > > > > people. He was very sweet in speech and very decent but at the same > > > > time he seemed dominating (because Mars in 7th house). He said he > > > is > > > > feared in his circle because he is very honest and he is also not > > > > scared of goondas and death threats. He was a primary school > > > teacher > > > > in a village before he became an IAS Officer. He seems to be > > > > sincerely dedicated to work and as he was workoholic he had health > > > > problems. He was a very good poet and has published a poetry book > > > > (this was my mother's prediction and he was astonished, even I was > > > > astonished). Also the way he speaks is really astonishing, very > > > clear > > > > and dignified in speech and when he talks you feel he is really > > > > intelligent and a very dignified person.> > > > > > > > 2. April-16-1986, 03.42, Hubli, India, student.> > > > (parents came with problem of whether he will join a professional > > > > course or not, which my mother predicted he will, seeing not only > > > > jupiter in lagna but also his good sidhamsha). But character wise, > > > he > > > > seems to be very soft and lively person, and since there isnt any > > > > direct influence on Jupiter, we can safely say he is very > > > righteous, > > > > and disciplined and respects elders. The parents said indeed he was > > > a > > > > very soft-spoken and honest kid and very much respects all > > > > traditions. Since he was also running Jupiter dasha, he didnt have > > > > any sort of problems in his education. Also he plays tabla at > > > various > > > > competitions.> > > > > > > > 3. April-16-1953, 09.10, Bangalore, MLC (Member of Legislative > > > > Council),> > > > > > > > He came to ask whether he will win election (MP), but my mother > > > said > > > > he will not but he will still be in politics, and he went to > > > politics > > > > thru backdoor (became MLC). He is widely known by public to be > > > > corrupt and goonda. But my mother said completely opposite, that he > > > > is very soft, honest, righteous, does charity works, and sincere to > > > > his wife. He was shell-shocked and almost went into tears. He said > > > he > > > > was pained at people calling him names, as he was very sincere. He > > > > said he had earned money thru hard work in real estate business and > > > > then was stepping into politics now, but people thought he made all > > > > that money in politics since he was also uneducated. He is not > > > > involved in even one scandal. He respects everyone and also does > > > > charity work. But, he is not educated well. But since Moon is in > > > > lagna with Jupiter, he is sweet and soft in speech and has good > > > mind. > > > > But he is also very brave and courageous, because Mars in own house > > > > and Sun exalted. He is known to have dealt with his enemies in real-> > > > estate business with an iron hand. But its interesting to see that > > > he > > > > is not well educated.> > > > > > > > My Personal Conclusions about Jupiter in Lagna:> > > > a. Jupiter in Lagna definitely makes one have sweet and dignified > > > > speech. He talks very sensibly and like a learned person.> > > > b. Respects traditions and elders.> > > > c. Very knowledgeable (not sure about education though).> > > > d. Gives some kind of artistic nature (music, speech, poetry, etc), > > > > though not like venus.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Vijay.> > > > > > > > , "Sreenadh" > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear All,> > > > > Let us start discussing the effects of Jupiter in Lagna. The> > > > > lawyers/thread-owners for this thread are Pt. Arjun ji and > > > Srinivas > > > > ji. > > > > > They have the full right to argue in favor of Jupiter and its > > > power > > > > to> > > > > produce identifiable results when placed in Lagna. Try to argue > > > > against> > > > > him or in support of them - validate the results with your own or > > > > with> > > > > the charts known to you. I will start the discussion with minimum > > > > inputs> > > > > (fro Bhrigu sutra)-> > > > > * If Jupiter is present in lagna the native would be versatile > > > in> > > > > sound or linguistic related knowledge branches such as - > > > Vyakarana,> > > > > Tarka, oratory or the like. If Jupiter is in Cancer the said > > > results> > > > > will happen for sure.> > > > > * If Jupiter is in Lagna - the native will have good longevity > > > > and> > > > > great luck at or after the age of 16 years.> > > > > * If Jupiter in Lagna is aspected by malefic planets or in> > > > > debilitation or with malefics in enemy house - he would be > > > > interested in> > > > > doing bad deeds. His mind wavering, longevity - middle age, too > > > much> > > > > travel, egotic, no children, he will discard his relatives or the> > > > > relatives may discard him, he will say bad words against good > > > > people,> > > > > sadness and sufferings will prevail.> > > > > So, here goes our group - Jupiter Centric.. Hurah, to the > > > > thread of> > > > > Pt. Arjun ji and Srinivas ji. > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > Sreenadh> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.> >> > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.>

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Dear Sunilji, You are absolutely right, he had more friends than anybody can imagine. Now his friend circle has reduced but before marriage he had so many friends all his income was spent on having fun with them. he never saved any money for future.He used to support his friends for everything. He has 2 elder sisters and 5 brothers ( 2 brothers are no more).he is close with 1 sister otherwise with the others he is so so, not very close nor very far.Except for one sister nobody helps or supports him monetarily or otherwise.Mother is no more, her property is yet to be shared among the brothers, the possession of the property is with the last brother(youngest). So now all the other brothers have gone to court for deciding the share. This litigation is still not decided in the court. If it is settled may be he will get good amount of money and property. Thanx n' rgds Maligeresunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: Hare ramakrishna , dear Maligere ji . rahu behaves like planets in conjnction ,But rahu dasa is far away and this jup is 3rd and 6th Lord ,so functional malefic . The 2nd house and Lord afflicted and the karaka jup afflicted is may b the reason s to hav bad food (means taking liquor ) and lieing etc . His agni maruta Yoga ( aspect between sani and mars is bad ) and all the Bhavs owned by sani and mars is suffering and even the palcements also can destroy those bhavas ,its also without any benefic aspect and now ketu dasa is running and coming periods may be bad for marriage longitivity also esp rahu ,sani and merc sub periods . The house of frnds 11th is having so many good planets and u can see he has so many frnds ,but same sani and mars is influencing here also ,so end up in bad company . The planet of idealism afflicted ( jup ) also in lagna ,this may be the reason he dont wanted to change .so many good planets in 11th is still promising an income . How is his younger co borns and his relations with them . The rest depends on dasas and transits .It requires detailed analsysis . regrds sunil nair . Om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , "M.A" <maligere wrote:>> Sunilji, you are right he was born to a very respectful family rather i can say his grandfather was very very rich. I had read somewhere that Rahu behaves like the planet he is in company with and has more of jupiter results. So i thought it didn't make much difference but now that you pointed out, effects of Rahu must be prevalent in the native because nobody trusts him.When he was young he contantly ran away from home and after few years he used to come back.He used rob from his house only and sell it

outside.> > He works for the state government now and he is very skillful. He is good and helpful person but he has a reputation to lie and he used to cheat a lot. For eg he takes loan saying he will return in a week but he will never return.He is constantly into debts. He has to booze everyday and smokes a lot.> > Agnimaruta yoga i am not aware of its effects, but from past 3-4 yrs he simply says i am not keeping well and goes and admits in the hospital.He suffers from gastritis and tooth problems.he has spent lakhs on hospitalization.> > Saturn being the 4th & 5th Lord and mars being the 2nd and 7th Lord what i have seen is his wife was very adjusting and all these years she was very caring towards him. But now from past 3-4 yrs she has started to rebel{:->> > He has 2 sons, eldest can't stand his father. They are constantly locking horns with each other and mother takes the support of her son against her

husband now a days.> > He is running Ketu dasha & it doesn't seem to be very good either.> > Thank you sunilji, it has been a learning process and i have opened up to new avenues of thoughts by reading your mails and i like the way sreenadh ji explains ( his writing skills are amazing)> > Thanx n' rgds> Maligere> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > Hare ramakrishna ,> dear maligere ji ,> > Jup is not alone in lagna but with a dire malefic rahu ( in north its knows as guru chandal yoga ) .So rsults attributed to single jup in lagna how is it possible .> > also sani and mars forming agni maruta yoga ( so the houses involved can suffer ) also this yoga has no benefic aspects . ( u hav to giv us feed back ) .> > also born in jup -merc period .then this sat dasa ( Athi balavasta or atma karaka planet ) ( tho yoga karaka ) also in marak

house then merc ( 64th navamsa and 22nd drekkana Lord) and then ketu in 7th dasa ( another maraka place ) ,> > But i think he must hav born in good family ??> > giv us ur feed back with full detailed analsysis .> > any way jup in lagna is not applicable as other influnces r there .> > regrds sunil nair > om shreem maha laxmai namah .> > > , "M.A" maligere@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sunilji,pundit ji > > > > This is the details of a person who has jupiter in lagna, i have not seen any of the benefits that is been discussed here in this thread for this person. I can say he has seen nothing but difficulties in life, his health is also nothing to boast about.> > " saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an attractive personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and espectable name" >

> > > This statement is totally opposite of what i have seen in this persons life> > > > Name : Sreenivas> > Natal Chart> > September 9, 1958> > Time: 10:10:00 am> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 76 E 05' 00", 13 N 00' 00"> > Hassan, India> > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vilamba - Nija Sravana> > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (77.75% left)> > Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)> > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (59.56% left)> > Yoga: Variyan (Ju) (89.14% left)> > Karana: Bava (Su) (55.51% left)> > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Cn)> > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> > Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)> > Sunrise: 6:18:07 am> > Sunset: 6:28:06 pm> > Janma Ghatis: 9.6618> > Ayanamsa: 23-16-55.29> > Sidereal

Time: 8:55:15> > > > Thanx n' rgds> > Maligere> > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > dear pundit ji ,> > > > yes ,it says guru lagna can counter 1 crore doshas -laksham dosham guru hanti .> > > > what if its in actual experiences .for exmaple i wanted to know more abt taurus lagna with guru as guru is 8th Lord and his mool trikon sign also 8th house .> > > > any memebrs has any charts ?? I think latha mangeshwar ji is taurus lagna .> > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" panditarjun2004@ wrote:> > >> > > dear vijayji> > > > > > your mail with example charts and the lives of the

natives with > > > jupiter in lagna from your database is informative and appreciated.> > > > > > lord rama has jupiter in lagna. some notable people with jupiter in > > > lagna are as follows:> > > > > > 1. bharatratna lata mangeshkar> > > 2. erstwhile mysore maharaja krishnaraja wadiyar IV> > > 3. tata group founder JRD tata> > > 4. former chief minister and actor N T Ramarao> > > 5. Sri Aurobindo> > > 6. kanchi sankaracharya sri vijayendra saraswati> > > 7. former prime minister rajiv gandhi> > > 8. emperor akbar> > > 9. emperor aurangazeb> > > 10. tennis star sania mirza> > > > > > the above varied list contains emperors, rajas, prime minsiters, > > > business tycoons, actors, singers, sportspersons and even saints.> > >

> > > saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an attractive > > > personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and respectable > > > name.> > > > > > jupiter in lagna is perceived as positive by most if not all > > > astrologers. even those few who say guru spoils lagna by sitting in > > > lagna say that his benefic aspect on 5, 7 and 9 houses (one quadrant > > > and two trines) is auspicious for the native.> > > > > > as mentioned by tatvamasiji in one of his mails earlier, jupiter is > > > unanimously considered giving positive benfits on all the three > > > houses he aspect.> > > > > > the title "jeeva" or enlivener is granted by lord shiva to jupiter > > > and naturally jupiter is a natural benefic.> > > > > > an axiom says guru in

kendra negates one lakh doshams.> > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > pandit arjun> > > > > > > > > , "Vijay" > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > Its been long time since I visited the group, but its really great > > > to > > > > get hundreds of messages in my Inbox. I went thru most of them and > > > > currently started to seriously go thru the files section of this > > > > group, which is really very useful. Regarding Jupiter in Lagna I > > > > searched thru some of my database and found some interesting cases. > > > > Here, I shall give the details of their birth and their > > > > characteristics rather than important

events in their life, because > > > > as we all know jupiter in lagna ALONE has little to do with the > > > > events in their lives. For the events in their lives we have to > > > > consider all other effects, which is out of the scope of the > > > present > > > > discussion. The persons have clarified with me about their > > > characters.> > > > > > > > 1. IAS Officer (came with problems in health and political problems > > > > in job):> > > > > > > > June-23-1956, 11.05 am, Gudibanda, India, 77.41.E, 13.40.N.> > > > Character: I predicted he is very upright officer and very dynamic > > > > because Jupiter in Leo Lagna makes one not just honest (which is > > > why > > > > he was transferred every 2 years by political persons and even got

> > > > death threats), but also very dynamic and knows how to control > > > > people. He was very sweet in speech and very decent but at the same > > > > time he seemed dominating (because Mars in 7th house). He said he > > > is > > > > feared in his circle because he is very honest and he is also not > > > > scared of goondas and death threats. He was a primary school > > > teacher > > > > in a village before he became an IAS Officer. He seems to be > > > > sincerely dedicated to work and as he was workoholic he had health > > > > problems. He was a very good poet and has published a poetry book > > > > (this was my mother's prediction and he was astonished, even I was > > > > astonished). Also the way he speaks is really astonishing, very > > > clear > > > >

and dignified in speech and when he talks you feel he is really > > > > intelligent and a very dignified person.> > > > > > > > 2. April-16-1986, 03.42, Hubli, India, student.> > > > (parents came with problem of whether he will join a professional > > > > course or not, which my mother predicted he will, seeing not only > > > > jupiter in lagna but also his good sidhamsha). But character wise, > > > he > > > > seems to be very soft and lively person, and since there isnt any > > > > direct influence on Jupiter, we can safely say he is very > > > righteous, > > > > and disciplined and respects elders. The parents said indeed he was > > > a > > > > very soft-spoken and honest kid and very much respects all > > > > traditions. Since he was also running Jupiter

dasha, he didnt have > > > > any sort of problems in his education. Also he plays tabla at > > > various > > > > competitions.> > > > > > > > 3. April-16-1953, 09.10, Bangalore, MLC (Member of Legislative > > > > Council),> > > > > > > > He came to ask whether he will win election (MP), but my mother > > > said > > > > he will not but he will still be in politics, and he went to > > > politics > > > > thru backdoor (became MLC). He is widely known by public to be > > > > corrupt and goonda. But my mother said completely opposite, that he > > > > is very soft, honest, righteous, does charity works, and sincere to > > > > his wife. He was shell-shocked and almost went into tears. He said > > > he > > > > was pained at

people calling him names, as he was very sincere. He > > > > said he had earned money thru hard work in real estate business and > > > > then was stepping into politics now, but people thought he made all > > > > that money in politics since he was also uneducated. He is not > > > > involved in even one scandal. He respects everyone and also does > > > > charity work. But, he is not educated well. But since Moon is in > > > > lagna with Jupiter, he is sweet and soft in speech and has good > > > mind. > > > > But he is also very brave and courageous, because Mars in own house > > > > and Sun exalted. He is known to have dealt with his enemies in real-> > > > estate business with an iron hand. But its interesting to see that > > > he > > > > is not well educated.> > > >

> > > > My Personal Conclusions about Jupiter in Lagna:> > > > a. Jupiter in Lagna definitely makes one have sweet and dignified > > > > speech. He talks very sensibly and like a learned person.> > > > b. Respects traditions and elders.> > > > c. Very knowledgeable (not sure about education though).> > > > d. Gives some kind of artistic nature (music, speech, poetry, etc), > > > > though not like venus.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Vijay.> > > > > > > > , "Sreenadh" > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear All,> > > > > Let us start discussing the effects of Jupiter in Lagna. The> > > > > lawyers/thread-owners for this thread are

Pt. Arjun ji and > > > Srinivas > > > > ji. > > > > > They have the full right to argue in favor of Jupiter and its > > > power > > > > to> > > > > produce identifiable results when placed in Lagna. Try to argue > > > > against> > > > > him or in support of them - validate the results with your own or > > > > with> > > > > the charts known to you. I will start the discussion with minimum > > > > inputs> > > > > (fro Bhrigu sutra)-> > > > > * If Jupiter is present in lagna the native would be versatile > > > in> > > > > sound or linguistic related knowledge branches such as - > > > Vyakarana,> > > > > Tarka, oratory or the like. If Jupiter is in Cancer the said > > > results>

> > > > will happen for sure.> > > > > * If Jupiter is in Lagna - the native will have good longevity > > > > and> > > > > great luck at or after the age of 16 years.> > > > > * If Jupiter in Lagna is aspected by malefic planets or in> > > > > debilitation or with malefics in enemy house - he would be > > > > interested in> > > > > doing bad deeds. His mind wavering, longevity - middle age, too > > > much> > > > > travel, egotic, no children, he will discard his relatives or the> > > > > relatives may discard him, he will say bad words against good > > > > people,> > > > > sadness and sufferings will prevail.> > > > > So, here goes our group - Jupiter Centric.. Hurah, to the > > > > thread of> > > >

> Pt. Arjun ji and Srinivas ji. > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > Sreenadh> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.> >> > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.>

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, "M.A" <maligere wrote:>> Dear Sunilji,> > You are absolutely right, he had more friends than anybody can imagine. Now his friend circle has reduced but before marriage he had so many friends all his income was spent on having fun with them. he never saved any money for future.He used to support his friends for everything.> > He has 2 elder sisters and 5 brothers ( 2 brothers are no more).he is close with 1 sister otherwise with the others he is so so, not very close nor very far.Except for one sister nobody helps or supports him monetarily or otherwise.Mother is no more, her property is yet to be shared among the brothers, the possession of the property is with the last brother(youngest). So now all the other brothers have gone to court for deciding the share. This litigation is still not decided in the court. If it is settled may be he will get good amount of money and property.> > Thanx n' rgds> Maligere> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > Hare ramakrishna ,> dear Maligere ji .> > > rahu behaves like planets in conjnction ,But rahu dasa is far away and this jup is 3rd and 6th Lord ,so functional malefic .> > The 2nd house and Lord afflicted and the karaka jup afflicted is may b the reason s to hav bad food (means taking liquor ) and lieing etc .> > His agni maruta Yoga ( aspect between sani and mars is bad ) and all the Bhavs owned by sani and mars is suffering and even the palcements also can destroy those bhavas ,its also without any benefic aspect and now ketu dasa is running and coming periods may be bad for marriage longitivity also esp rahu ,sani and merc sub periods .> > The house of frnds 11th is having so many good planets and u can see he has so many frnds ,but same sani and mars is influencing here also ,so end up in bad company .> The planet of idealism afflicted ( jup ) also in lagna ,this may be the reason he dont wanted to change .so many good planets in 11th is still promising an income .> > How is his younger co borns and his relations with them .> > The rest depends on dasas and transits .It requires detailed analsysis .> > regrds sunil nair .> > Om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > > , "M.A" maligere@ wrote:> >> > Sunilji, you are right he was born to a very respectful family rather i can say his grandfather was very very rich. I had read somewhere that Rahu behaves like the planet he is in company with and has more of jupiter results. So i thought it didn't make much difference but now that you pointed out, effects of Rahu must be prevalent in the native because nobody trusts him.When he was young he contantly ran away from home and after few years he used to come back.He used rob from his house only and sell it outside.> > > > He works for the state government now and he is very skillful. He is good and helpful person but he has a reputation to lie and he used to cheat a lot. For eg he takes loan saying he will return in a week but he will never return.He is constantly into debts. He has to booze everyday and smokes a lot.> > > > Agnimaruta yoga i am not aware of its effects, but from past 3-4 yrs he simply says i am not keeping well and goes and admits in the hospital.He suffers from gastritis and tooth problems.he has spent lakhs on hospitalization.> > > > Saturn being the 4th & 5th Lord and mars being the 2nd and 7th Lord what i have seen is his wife was very adjusting and all these years she was very caring towards him. But now from past 3-4 yrs she has started to rebel{:->> > > > He has 2 sons, eldest can't stand his father. They are constantly locking horns with each other and mother takes the support of her son against her husband now a days.> > > > He is running Ketu dasha & it doesn't seem to be very good either.> > > > Thank you sunilji, it has been a learning process and i have opened up to new avenues of thoughts by reading your mails and i like the way sreenadh ji explains ( his writing skills are amazing)> > > > Thanx n' rgds> > Maligere> > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > Hare ramakrishna ,> > dear maligere ji ,> > > > Jup is not alone in lagna but with a dire malefic rahu ( in north its knows as guru chandal yoga ) .So rsults attributed to single jup in lagna how is it possible .> > > > also sani and mars forming agni maruta yoga ( so the houses involved can suffer ) also this yoga has no benefic aspects . ( u hav to giv us feed back ) .> > > > also born in jup -merc period .then this sat dasa ( Athi balavasta or atma karaka planet ) ( tho yoga karaka ) also in marak house then merc ( 64th navamsa and 22nd drekkana Lord) and then ketu in 7th dasa ( another maraka place ) ,> > > > But i think he must hav born in good family ??> > > > giv us ur feed back with full detailed analsysis .> > > > any way jup in lagna is not applicable as other influnces r there .> > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem maha laxmai namah .> > > > > > , "M.A" maligere@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunilji,pundit ji > > > > > > This is the details of a person who has jupiter in lagna, i have not seen any of the benefits that is been discussed here in this thread for this person. I can say he has seen nothing but difficulties in life, his health is also nothing to boast about.> > > " saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an attractive personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and espectable name" > > > > > > This statement is totally opposite of what i have seen in this persons life> > > > > > Name : Sreenivas> > > Natal Chart> > > September 9, 1958> > > Time: 10:10:00 am> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 76 E 05' 00", 13 N 00' 00"> > > Hassan, India> > > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vilamba - Nija Sravana> > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (77.75% left)> > > Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)> > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (59.56% left)> > > Yoga: Variyan (Ju) (89.14% left)> > > Karana: Bava (Su) (55.51% left)> > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Cn)> > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> > > Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)> > > Sunrise: 6:18:07 am> > > Sunset: 6:28:06 pm> > > Janma Ghatis: 9.6618> > > Ayanamsa: 23-16-55.29> > > Sidereal Time: 8:55:15> > > > > > Thanx n' rgds> > > Maligere> > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > Hare rama krishna ,> > > dear pundit ji ,> > > > > > yes ,it says guru lagna can counter 1 crore doshas -laksham dosham guru hanti .> > > > > > what if its in actual experiences .for exmaple i wanted to know more abt taurus lagna with guru as guru is 8th Lord and his mool trikon sign also 8th house .> > > > > > any memebrs has any charts ?? I think latha mangeshwar ji is taurus lagna .> > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" panditarjun2004@ wrote:> > > >> > > > dear vijayji> > > > > > > > your mail with example charts and the lives of the natives with > > > > jupiter in lagna from your database is informative and appreciated.> > > > > > > > lord rama has jupiter in lagna. some notable people with jupiter in > > > > lagna are as follows:> > > > > > > > 1. bharatratna lata mangeshkar> > > > 2. erstwhile mysore maharaja krishnaraja wadiyar IV> > > > 3. tata group founder JRD tata> > > > 4. former chief minister and actor N T Ramarao> > > > 5. Sri Aurobindo> > > > 6. kanchi sankaracharya sri vijayendra saraswati> > > > 7. former prime minister rajiv gandhi> > > > 8. emperor akbar> > > > 9. emperor aurangazeb> > > > 10. tennis star sania mirza> > > > > > > > the above varied list contains emperors, rajas, prime minsiters, > > > > business tycoons, actors, singers, sportspersons and even saints.> > > > > > > > saravali says jupiter in lagna gives the native an attractive > > > > personality, energetic health, long life, courageous and respectable > > > > name.> > > > > > > > jupiter in lagna is perceived as positive by most if not all > > > > astrologers. even those few who say guru spoils lagna by sitting in > > > > lagna say that his benefic aspect on 5, 7 and 9 houses (one quadrant > > > > and two trines) is auspicious for the native.> > > > > > > > as mentioned by tatvamasiji in one of his mails earlier, jupiter is > > > > unanimously considered giving positive benfits on all the three > > > > houses he aspect.> > > > > > > > the title "jeeva" or enlivener is granted by lord shiva to jupiter > > > > and naturally jupiter is a natural benefic.> > > > > > > > an axiom says guru in kendra negates one lakh doshams.> > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > > pandit arjun> > > > > > > > > > > > , "Vijay" > > > > hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > > Its been long time since I visited the group, but its really great > > > > to > > > > > get hundreds of messages in my Inbox. I went thru most of them and > > > > > currently started to seriously go thru the files section of this > > > > > group, which is really very useful. Regarding Jupiter in Lagna I > > > > > searched thru some of my database and found some interesting cases. > > > > > Here, I shall give the details of their birth and their > > > > > characteristics rather than important events in their life, because > > > > > as we all know jupiter in lagna ALONE has little to do with the > > > > > events in their lives. For the events in their lives we have to > > > > > consider all other effects, which is out of the scope of the > > > > present > > > > > discussion. The persons have clarified with me about their > > > > characters.> > > > > > > > > > 1. IAS Officer (came with problems in health and political problems > > > > > in job):> > > > > > > > > > June-23-1956, 11.05 am, Gudibanda, India, 77.41.E, 13.40.N.> > > > > Character: I predicted he is very upright officer and very dynamic > > > > > because Jupiter in Leo Lagna makes one not just honest (which is > > > > why > > > > > he was transferred every 2 years by political persons and even got > > > > > death threats), but also very dynamic and knows how to control > > > > > people. He was very sweet in speech and very decent but at the same > > > > > time he seemed dominating (because Mars in 7th house). He said he > > > > is > > > > > feared in his circle because he is very honest and he is also not > > > > > scared of goondas and death threats. He was a primary school > > > > teacher > > > > > in a village before he became an IAS Officer. He seems to be > > > > > sincerely dedicated to work and as he was workoholic he had health > > > > > problems. He was a very good poet and has published a poetry book > > > > > (this was my mother's prediction and he was astonished, even I was > > > > > astonished). Also the way he speaks is really astonishing, very > > > > clear > > > > > and dignified in speech and when he talks you feel he is really > > > > > intelligent and a very dignified person.> > > > > > > > > > 2. April-16-1986, 03.42, Hubli, India, student.> > > > > (parents came with problem of whether he will join a professional > > > > > course or not, which my mother predicted he will, seeing not only > > > > > jupiter in lagna but also his good sidhamsha). But character wise, > > > > he > > > > > seems to be very soft and lively person, and since there isnt any > > > > > direct influence on Jupiter, we can safely say he is very > > > > righteous, > > > > > and disciplined and respects elders. The parents said indeed he was > > > > a > > > > > very soft-spoken and honest kid and very much respects all > > > > > traditions. Since he was also running Jupiter dasha, he didnt have > > > > > any sort of problems in his education. Also he plays tabla at > > > > various > > > > > competitions.> > > > > > > > > > 3. April-16-1953, 09.10, Bangalore, MLC (Member of Legislative > > > > > Council),> > > > > > > > > > He came to ask whether he will win election (MP), but my mother > > > > said > > > > > he will not but he will still be in politics, and he went to > > > > politics > > > > > thru backdoor (became MLC). He is widely known by public to be > > > > > corrupt and goonda. But my mother said completely opposite, that he > > > > > is very soft, honest, righteous, does charity works, and sincere to > > > > > his wife. He was shell-shocked and almost went into tears. He said > > > > he > > > > > was pained at people calling him names, as he was very sincere. He > > > > > said he had earned money thru hard work in real estate business and > > > > > then was stepping into politics now, but people thought he made all > > > > > that money in politics since he was also uneducated. He is not > > > > > involved in even one scandal. He respects everyone and also does > > > > > charity work. But, he is not educated well. But since Moon is in > > > > > lagna with Jupiter, he is sweet and soft in speech and has good > > > > mind. > > > > > But he is also very brave and courageous, because Mars in own house > > > > > and Sun exalted. He is known to have dealt with his enemies in real-> > > > > estate business with an iron hand. But its interesting to see that > > > > he > > > > > is not well educated.> > > > > > > > > > My Personal Conclusions about Jupiter in Lagna:> > > > > a. Jupiter in Lagna definitely makes one have sweet and dignified > > > > > speech. He talks very sensibly and like a learned person.> > > > > b. Respects traditions and elders.> > > > > c. Very knowledgeable (not sure about education though).> > > > > d. Gives some kind of artistic nature (music, speech, poetry, etc), > > > > > though not like venus.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > Vijay.> > > > > > > > > > , "Sreenadh" > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > Let us start discussing the effects of Jupiter in Lagna. The> > > > > > lawyers/thread-owners for this thread are Pt. Arjun ji and > > > > Srinivas > > > > > ji. > > > > > > They have the full right to argue in favor of Jupiter and its > > > > power > > > > > to> > > > > > produce identifiable results when placed in Lagna. Try to argue > > > > > against> > > > > > him or in support of them - validate the results with your own or > > > > > with> > > > > > the charts known to you. I will start the discussion with minimum > > > > > inputs> > > > > > (fro Bhrigu sutra)-> > > > > > * If Jupiter is present in lagna the native would be versatile > > > > in> > > > > > sound or linguistic related knowledge branches such as - > > > > Vyakarana,> > > > > > Tarka, oratory or the like. If Jupiter is in Cancer the said > > > > results> > > > > > will happen for sure.> > > > > > * If Jupiter is in Lagna - the native will have good longevity > > > > > and> > > > > > great luck at or after the age of 16 years.> > > > > > * If Jupiter in Lagna is aspected by malefic planets or in> > > > > > debilitation or with malefics in enemy house - he would be > > > > > interested in> > > > > > doing bad deeds. His mind wavering, longevity - middle age, too > > > > much> > > > > > travel, egotic, no children, he will discard his relatives or the> > > > > > relatives may discard him, he will say bad words against good > > > > > people,> > > > > > sadness and sufferings will prevail.> > > > > > So, here goes our group - Jupiter Centric.. Hurah, to the > > > > > thread of> > > > > > Pt. Arjun ji and Srinivas ji. > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.> >> > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.>