USA Elections - Analysis done on the 9th of March 2006

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Dear Respected members

 

Please find the analysis done by me during early 2006.Mesg No.10270

in Jyotish Group list.

The period will be Ve-Sa.Sun may be the Pratyantara dasha running

during November.Sun is in Lagna - debilitated and attaining NBRY.From

my analysis,it looks like if God's grace is there Ms.Clinton is

likely to become presdient.

 

Regds

Pradeep

 

 

Hillary Clinton - Possibility of Libra

 

 

Dear Respected members

 

Thanks for the chart and possible times.I have tried to verify the

chart with events and Libra seems to give satisfactory results.Kindly

have a look.

 

First of all a general observation (Libra and balance)

 

During the 1992 presidential campaign, Hillary Rodham Clinton

observed, " Our lives are a mixture of different roles. Most of us are

doing the best we can to find whatever the right balance is . . . For

me, that balance is family, work, and service. "

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1)First attraction to politics(1964,Supporting Republican senator,at

the age of 16).Sa/Mo - Yogakaraka Shani and 10th lord Moon in

Parivartana.

 

2)President of Wellesley College Chapter(1965).Sa/Ma

 

3)Marriage(1975/Oct).Me-Ve.

Lagna as well as mercury are having navamsha in Gemini.Mercury is

aspecting seventh house,seventh lord is aspecting mercury.These make

mercury a possible candidate for marriage.

 

Venus is Lagna lord associating Lagna navamsha lord.Venus is aspecting

7th house, apart from having navamsha in the 7th from lagna, making it

a candidate for marriage.(Kindly see the usage of navamsha as found in

classics)

 

4)First Lady of Arkansas (1978).Me/Su

Mercury has brought her many luck.Mercury is ninth lord forming

Rajayoga in Lagna.Sun is 11th lord attaining Neechabhanga.Moreover

Lagna is having Bhagya navamsha.9th lord is aslo having bhahya

navamsha.Sun the antar-dasha,is the 11th lord attaining Neechabhanga.

 

5)1980,Child birth.Me-Mo as per Chandrahari ayanamsha.Moon is in the

fifth.(Mars is the antar dasha as per Lahiri)

 

6)Senate election - Ve/Mo

 

If she is running for the 2008 november predidential,the period will

be VE-SA. Saturn yogakaraka is giving neechabhanga to 7th lord mars

placed in 10th and undergoing parivartana with 10th lord moon .Good

period.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

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Hare ramakrishna ,

dear vijaya das ji ,

 

Good analysis .what is the data u used .How reliable is the data..now there is lot of versions of birth chart of mrs .clinton is doing rounds in net .

 

Now any way this is going to be a unpredictable election as far logic is concerned .Generaly US public was against Non -white and also against a woman .But now in actual practise things r on the other way around .

 

Now i was reading clinton s changed their campain manager and obama is winning in 4 states and narrowing the margin and giving a tight fight .

 

From unforeseen quarters they r getting support .She is experienced and famous were as Obama is new and fresh face who has not proved yet .But how this charishma happened ?all in a sudden .

 

No logics ,may be if we can get correct and reliable birth charts we could able to ascertain correct reasons .

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

 

 

, "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:>> Dear Respected members> > Please find the analysis done by me during early 2006.Mesg No.10270 > in Jyotish Group list.> The period will be Ve-Sa.Sun may be the Pratyantara dasha running > during November.Sun is in Lagna - debilitated and attaining NBRY.From > my analysis,it looks like if God's grace is there Ms.Clinton is > likely to become presdient.> > Regds> Pradeep > > > Hillary Clinton - Possibility of Libra > > > Dear Respected members> > Thanks for the chart and possible times.I have tried to verify the> chart with events and Libra seems to give satisfactory results.Kindly> have a look.> > First of all a general observation (Libra and balance)> > During the 1992 presidential campaign, Hillary Rodham Clinton> observed,"Our lives are a mixture of different roles. Most of us are> doing the best we can to find whatever the right balance is . . . For> me, that balance is family, work, and service."> ----> ----------\> ----> ----------\> ---------> 1)First attraction to politics(1964,Supporting Republican senator,at> the age of 16).Sa/Mo - Yogakaraka Shani and 10th lord Moon in > Parivartana.> > 2)President of Wellesley College Chapter(1965).Sa/Ma> > 3)Marriage(1975/Oct).Me-Ve.> Lagna as well as mercury are having navamsha in Gemini.Mercury is> aspecting seventh house,seventh lord is aspecting mercury.These make> mercury a possible candidate for marriage.> > Venus is Lagna lord associating Lagna navamsha lord.Venus is aspecting> 7th house, apart from having navamsha in the 7th from lagna, making it> a candidate for marriage.(Kindly see the usage of navamsha as found in> classics)> > 4)First Lady of Arkansas (1978).Me/Su> Mercury has brought her many luck.Mercury is ninth lord forming> Rajayoga in Lagna.Sun is 11th lord attaining Neechabhanga.Moreover> Lagna is having Bhagya navamsha.9th lord is aslo having bhahya> navamsha.Sun the antar-dasha,is the 11th lord attaining Neechabhanga.> > 5)1980,Child birth.Me-Mo as per Chandrahari ayanamsha.Moon is in the> fifth.(Mars is the antar dasha as per Lahiri)> > 6)Senate election - Ve/Mo> > If she is running for the 2008 november predidential,the period will> be VE-SA. Saturn yogakaraka is giving neechabhanga to 7th lord mars> placed in 10th and undergoing parivartana with 10th lord moon .Good> period.> > Thanks> Pradeep>

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Dear Sunil-ji,

 

I am a novice, so pardon my ignorance.

 

My question is...

 

In absence of correct lagna for both candidate, can we

rely on Moon as lagna here ? For both rasi & navamsha ?

 

Moon supposedly means the public and elections are

decided by public votes.

 

Also, debilitated moon for Obama - deb. may mean

deb. quality - which would favor recent politics.

 

As seen in many athletes, deb. mars giving a 'no holds barred'

attitude & no reduction in strength (result-giving wise), can we

treat debilitated moon like that also ?

 

'Looking forward to replies.

 

Regards

 

Chakraborty

 

 

sunil nair [astro_tellerkerala]Monday, February 11, 2008 8:43 AM Subject: Re: USA Elections - Analysis done on the 9th of March 2006

 

 

 

Hare ramakrishna ,

dear vijaya das ji ,

 

Good analysis .what is the data u used .How reliable is the data..now there is lot of versions of birth chart of mrs .clinton is doing rounds in net ..

 

Now any way this is going to be a unpredictable election as far logic is concerned .Generaly US public was against Non -white and also against a woman .But now in actual practise things r on the other way around .

 

Now i was reading clinton s changed their campain manager and obama is winning in 4 states and narrowing the margin and giving a tight fight .

 

From unforeseen quarters they r getting support .She is experienced and famous were as Obama is new and fresh face who has not proved yet .But how this charishma happened ?all in a sudden .

 

No logics ,may be if we can get correct and reliable birth charts we could able to ascertain correct reasons ..

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah ..

 

 

, "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:>> Dear Respected members> > Please find the analysis done by me during early 2006.Mesg No.10270 > in Jyotish Group list.> The period will be Ve-Sa.Sun may be the Pratyantara dasha running > during November.Sun is in Lagna - debilitated and attaining NBRY.From > my analysis,it looks like if God's grace is there Ms.Clinton is > likely to become presdient.> > Regds> Pradeep > > > Hillary Clinton - Possibility of Libra > > > Dear Respected members> > Thanks for the chart and possible times.I have tried to verify the> chart with events and Libra seems to give satisfactory results.Kindly> have a look.> > First of all a general observation (Libra and balance)> > During the 1992 presidential campaign, Hillary Rodham Clinton> observed,"Our lives are a mixture of different roles. Most of us are> doing the best we can to find whatever the right balance is . . . For> me, that balance is family, work, and service."> ----> ----------\> ----> ----------\> ---------> 1)First attraction to politics(1964,Supporting Republican senator,at> the age of 16).Sa/Mo - Yogakaraka Shani and 10th lord Moon in > Parivartana.> > 2)President of Wellesley College Chapter(1965).Sa/Ma> > 3)Marriage(1975/Oct).Me-Ve.> Lagna as well as mercury are having navamsha in Gemini.Mercury is> aspecting seventh house,seventh lord is aspecting mercury.These make> mercury a possible candidate for marriage.> > Venus is Lagna lord associating Lagna navamsha lord.Venus is aspecting> 7th house, apart from having navamsha in the 7th from lagna, making it> a candidate for marriage.(Kindly see the usage of navamsha as found in> classics)> > 4)First Lady of Arkansas (1978).Me/Su> Mercury has brought her many luck.Mercury is ninth lord forming> Rajayoga in Lagna.Sun is 11th lord attaining Neechabhanga.Moreover> Lagna is having Bhagya navamsha.9th lord is aslo having bhahya> navamsha.Sun the antar-dasha,is the 11th lord attaining Neechabhanga.> > 5)1980,Child birth.Me-Mo as per Chandrahari ayanamsha.Moon is in the> fifth.(Mars is the antar dasha as per Lahiri)> > 6)Senate election - Ve/Mo> > If she is running for the 2008 november predidential,the period will> be VE-SA. Saturn yogakaraka is giving neechabhanga to 7th lord mars> placed in 10th and undergoing parivartana with 10th lord moon .Good> period.> > Thanks> Pradeep>

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Hare ramakrishna ,

dear chakravarthy ji .

 

yes we can use moon as lagna Under 2 conditions one is if u know day and birth time is unknown and other is even if u know birth data correctly ,moon if aspected by guru or benefics like merc or moon aspected by dispositor ,in that case after 30 years u can use moon lagna also .SOme says we can use moon lagna irrespectiv of strenth of moon .But i cannot vouch it as moon is in a rasi for 2and 1/4 days ,so it becomes too general approach .were as lagna is the 2hrs window and it narrow down the effects to minute levels.

 

But in chart of obama which i posted moon is exlated ,u can see the post .

i dont know moon can be used in navamsa as lagna ,may be possible ,its a new thing and some one can help us this line .

But the danger is when moon is last degree of a sign in early morning and if birth is later part of day rasi can be changed ,then also sub periods cant be dependable .AS it becomes tricky .

 

Otherwise moon as 2nd lagna ,we can use it ,esp under the conditions i explained .

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

 

 

, "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear Sunil-ji,> > I am a novice, so pardon my ignorance.> > My question is...> > In absence of correct lagna for both candidate, can we> rely on Moon as lagna here ? For both rasi & navamsha ?> > Moon supposedly means the public and elections are> decided by public votes.> > Also, debilitated moon for Obama - deb. may mean > deb. quality - which would favor recent politics.> > As seen in many athletes, deb. mars giving a 'no holds barred'> attitude & no reduction in strength (result-giving wise), can we> treat debilitated moon like that also ?> > 'Looking forward to replies.> > Regards> > Chakraborty> > > > sunil nair [astro_tellerkerala]> Monday, February 11, 2008 8:43 AM> > Re: USA Elections - Analysis done on the> 9th of March 2006> > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna ,> > dear vijaya das ji ,> > > > Good analysis .what is the data u used .How reliable is the data..now> there is lot of versions of birth chart of mrs .clinton is doing rounds in> net .> > > > Now any way this is going to be a unpredictable election as far logic is> concerned .Generaly US public was against Non -white and also against a> woman .But now in actual practise things r on the other way around .> > > > Now i was reading clinton s changed their campain manager and obama is> winning in 4 states and narrowing the margin and giving a tight fight .> > > > From unforeseen quarters they r getting support .She is experienced and> famous were as Obama is new and fresh face who has not proved yet .But how> this charishma happened ?all in a sudden .> > > > No logics ,may be if we can get correct and reliable birth charts we could> able to ascertain correct reasons .> > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > > > > > > , "vijayadas_pradeep"> vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote:> >> > Dear Respected members> > > > Please find the analysis done by me during early 2006.Mesg No.10270 > > in Jyotish Group list.> > The period will be Ve-Sa.Sun may be the Pratyantara dasha running > > during November.Sun is in Lagna - debilitated and attaining NBRY.From > > my analysis,it looks like if God's grace is there Ms.Clinton is > > likely to become presdient.> > > > Regds> > Pradeep > > > > > > Hillary Clinton - Possibility of Libra > > > > > > Dear Respected members> > > > Thanks for the chart and possible times.I have tried to verify the> > chart with events and Libra seems to give satisfactory results.Kindly> > have a look.> > > > First of all a general observation (Libra and balance)> > > > During the 1992 presidential campaign, Hillary Rodham Clinton> > observed,"Our lives are a mixture of different roles. Most of us are> > doing the best we can to find whatever the right balance is . . . For> > me, that balance is family, work, and service."> > ----> > ----------\> > ----> > ----------\> > ---------> > 1)First attraction to politics(1964,Supporting Republican senator,at> > the age of 16).Sa/Mo - Yogakaraka Shani and 10th lord Moon in > > Parivartana.> > > > 2)President of Wellesley College Chapter(1965).Sa/Ma> > > > 3)Marriage(1975/Oct).Me-Ve.> > Lagna as well as mercury are having navamsha in Gemini.Mercury is> > aspecting seventh house,seventh lord is aspecting mercury.These make> > mercury a possible candidate for marriage.> > > > Venus is Lagna lord associating Lagna navamsha lord.Venus is aspecting> > 7th house, apart from having navamsha in the 7th from lagna, making it> > a candidate for marriage.(Kindly see the usage of navamsha as found in> > classics)> > > > 4)First Lady of Arkansas (1978).Me/Su> > Mercury has brought her many luck.Mercury is ninth lord forming> > Rajayoga in Lagna.Sun is 11th lord attaining Neechabhanga.Moreover> > Lagna is having Bhagya navamsha.9th lord is aslo having bhahya> > navamsha.Sun the antar-dasha,is the 11th lord attaining Neechabhanga.> > > > 5)1980,Child birth.Me-Mo as per Chandrahari ayanamsha.Moon is in the> > fifth.(Mars is the antar dasha as per Lahiri)> > > > 6)Senate election - Ve/Mo> > > > If she is running for the 2008 november predidential,the period will> > be VE-SA. Saturn yogakaraka is giving neechabhanga to 7th lord mars> > placed in 10th and undergoing parivartana with 10th lord moon .Good> > period.> > > > Thanks> > Pradeep> >> > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.>

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Dear Sunil ji

 

I am not sure about the authenticity.

It was given by a US resident of Jyotish group list during early 2006.

 

You are right ,it looks like it is going to be a tough fight.

 

Tranit wise the picture is good - Jupiter in transit is 11th from

natal Moon and aspecting 9th from lagna and 5th from natal moon -

Highly favourable.Jupiter and Saturn are simulateneously influencing

the 11th from Lagna.Saturn is Chandralagnadhipathi and is aspecting

his own house ie the 5th as a yogakaraka from transit.

 

Lord alone knows the outcome.Let us wait.

 

Regds

Pradeep

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Hare ramakrishna ,

>

> dear vijaya das ji ,

>

>

>

> Good analysis .what is the data u used .How reliable is the

> data..now there is lot of versions of birth chart of mrs .clinton is

> doing rounds in net .

>

>

>

> Now any way this is going to be a unpredictable election as far

logic is

> concerned .Generaly US public was against Non -white and also

against a

> woman .But now in actual practise things r on the other way around .

>

>

>

> Now i was reading clinton s changed their campain manager and

obama is

> winning in 4 states and narrowing the margin and giving a tight

fight .

>

>

>

> From unforeseen quarters they r getting support .She is experienced

and

> famous were as Obama is new and fresh face who has not proved

yet .But

> how this charishma happened ?all in a sudden .

>

>

>

> No logics ,may be if we can get correct and reliable birth charts we

> could able to ascertain correct reasons .

>

>

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

>

>

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

> <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Respected members

> >

> > Please find the analysis done by me during early 2006.Mesg

No.10270

> > in Jyotish Group list.

> > The period will be Ve-Sa.Sun may be the Pratyantara dasha running

> > during November.Sun is in Lagna - debilitated and attaining

NBRY.From

> > my analysis,it looks like if God's grace is there Ms.Clinton is

> > likely to become presdient.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

> > Hillary Clinton - Possibility of Libra

> >

> >

> > Dear Respected members

> >

> > Thanks for the chart and possible times.I have tried to verify the

> > chart with events and Libra seems to give satisfactory

results.Kindly

> > have a look.

> >

> > First of all a general observation (Libra and balance)

> >

> > During the 1992 presidential campaign, Hillary Rodham Clinton

> > observed, " Our lives are a mixture of different roles. Most of us

are

> > doing the best we can to find whatever the right balance is . . .

For

> > me, that balance is family, work, and service. "

> >

----

> > ----------\

> >

----

> > ----------\

> > ---------

> > 1)First attraction to politics(1964,Supporting Republican

senator,at

> > the age of 16).Sa/Mo - Yogakaraka Shani and 10th lord Moon in

> > Parivartana.

> >

> > 2)President of Wellesley College Chapter(1965).Sa/Ma

> >

> > 3)Marriage(1975/Oct).Me-Ve.

> > Lagna as well as mercury are having navamsha in Gemini.Mercury is

> > aspecting seventh house,seventh lord is aspecting mercury.These

make

> > mercury a possible candidate for marriage.

> >

> > Venus is Lagna lord associating Lagna navamsha lord.Venus is

aspecting

> > 7th house, apart from having navamsha in the 7th from lagna,

making it

> > a candidate for marriage.(Kindly see the usage of navamsha as

found in

> > classics)

> >

> > 4)First Lady of Arkansas (1978).Me/Su

> > Mercury has brought her many luck.Mercury is ninth lord forming

> > Rajayoga in Lagna.Sun is 11th lord attaining Neechabhanga.Moreover

> > Lagna is having Bhagya navamsha.9th lord is aslo having bhahya

> > navamsha.Sun the antar-dasha,is the 11th lord attaining

Neechabhanga.

> >

> > 5)1980,Child birth.Me-Mo as per Chandrahari ayanamsha.Moon is in

the

> > fifth.(Mars is the antar dasha as per Lahiri)

> >

> > 6)Senate election - Ve/Mo

> >

> > If she is running for the 2008 november predidential,the period

will

> > be VE-SA. Saturn yogakaraka is giving neechabhanga to 7th lord

mars

> > placed in 10th and undergoing parivartana with 10th lord

moon .Good

> > period.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Pradeep

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hare rama krishna

dear pradeep ji ,

 

Thanks for the information .let us wait for out come now .Any way i think clintons can influence the super delegates and twist the show to their favr .

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem maha laxmai namah.

 

, "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji> > I am not sure about the authenticity.> It was given by a US resident of Jyotish group list during early 2006.> > You are right ,it looks like it is going to be a tough fight.> > Tranit wise the picture is good - Jupiter in transit is 11th from > natal Moon and aspecting 9th from lagna and 5th from natal moon -> Highly favourable.Jupiter and Saturn are simulateneously influencing > the 11th from Lagna.Saturn is Chandralagnadhipathi and is aspecting > his own house ie the 5th as a yogakaraka from transit.> > Lord alone knows the outcome.Let us wait.> > Regds> Pradeep> , "sunil nair" > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna ,> > > > dear vijaya das ji ,> > > > > > > > Good analysis .what is the data u used .How reliable is the> > data..now there is lot of versions of birth chart of mrs .clinton is> > doing rounds in net .> > > > > > > > Now any way this is going to be a unpredictable election as far > logic is> > concerned .Generaly US public was against Non -white and also > against a> > woman .But now in actual practise things r on the other way around .> > > > > > > > Now i was reading clinton s changed their campain manager and > obama is> > winning in 4 states and narrowing the margin and giving a tight > fight .> > > > > > > > From unforeseen quarters they r getting support .She is experienced > and> > famous were as Obama is new and fresh face who has not proved > yet .But> > how this charishma happened ?all in a sudden .> > > > > > > > No logics ,may be if we can get correct and reliable birth charts we> > could able to ascertain correct reasons .> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "vijayadas_pradeep"> > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Respected members> > >> > > Please find the analysis done by me during early 2006.Mesg > No.10270> > > in Jyotish Group list.> > > The period will be Ve-Sa.Sun may be the Pratyantara dasha running> > > during November.Sun is in Lagna - debilitated and attaining > NBRY.From> > > my analysis,it looks like if God's grace is there Ms.Clinton is> > > likely to become presdient.> > >> > > Regds> > > Pradeep> > >> > >> > > Hillary Clinton - Possibility of Libra> > >> > >> > > Dear Respected members> > >> > > Thanks for the chart and possible times.I have tried to verify the> > > chart with events and Libra seems to give satisfactory > results.Kindly> > > have a look.> > >> > > First of all a general observation (Libra and balance)> > >> > > During the 1992 presidential campaign, Hillary Rodham Clinton> > > observed,"Our lives are a mixture of different roles. Most of us > are> > > doing the best we can to find whatever the right balance is . . . > For> > > me, that balance is family, work, and service."> > > > ----> > > ----------\> > > > ----> > > ----------\> > > ---------> > > 1)First attraction to politics(1964,Supporting Republican > senator,at> > > the age of 16).Sa/Mo - Yogakaraka Shani and 10th lord Moon in> > > Parivartana.> > >> > > 2)President of Wellesley College Chapter(1965).Sa/Ma> > >> > > 3)Marriage(1975/Oct).Me-Ve.> > > Lagna as well as mercury are having navamsha in Gemini.Mercury is> > > aspecting seventh house,seventh lord is aspecting mercury.These > make> > > mercury a possible candidate for marriage.> > >> > > Venus is Lagna lord associating Lagna navamsha lord.Venus is > aspecting> > > 7th house, apart from having navamsha in the 7th from lagna, > making it> > > a candidate for marriage.(Kindly see the usage of navamsha as > found in> > > classics)> > >> > > 4)First Lady of Arkansas (1978).Me/Su> > > Mercury has brought her many luck.Mercury is ninth lord forming> > > Rajayoga in Lagna.Sun is 11th lord attaining Neechabhanga.Moreover> > > Lagna is having Bhagya navamsha.9th lord is aslo having bhahya> > > navamsha.Sun the antar-dasha,is the 11th lord attaining > Neechabhanga.> > >> > > 5)1980,Child birth.Me-Mo as per Chandrahari ayanamsha.Moon is in > the> > > fifth.(Mars is the antar dasha as per Lahiri)> > >> > > 6)Senate election - Ve/Mo> > >> > > If she is running for the 2008 november predidential,the period > will> > > be VE-SA. Saturn yogakaraka is giving neechabhanga to 7th lord > mars> > > placed in 10th and undergoing parivartana with 10th lord > moon .Good> > > period.> > >> > > Thanks> > > Pradeep> > >> >>