Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Dear Mahesh ji, Of course a reading about the 10th house of your chart was pending for long - I giving it today upto your satisfaction or dissatisfaction. I checked your chart today and the following is the reading - Natal Chart of Mahesh Iyer Natal chart: 22-Aug-1972: 12.40 PM IST Alappy. Long:76E18 Lat:9N30 Time Zone:5.30 East of GMT Year Length: 365.2425 (Normal solar year) Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa (46 min more than Lahari Ayanamsa) Dasa considered: Vimsottari Dasa from Moon. 1st house: Scorpio: Lagna-Gk Navamsa: _ 2nd house: Sagittarius: (Ju)-Ra Navamsa: Ra-Me 3rd house: Capricorn: Mo Navamsa: _ 4th house: Aquarius: _ Navamsa: Mo 5th house: Pisces: _ Navamsa: Ve 6th house: Aries: _ Navamsa: _ 7th house: Taurus: Sa Navamsa: (Ju)-Su 8th house: Gemini: Ve-Ke Navamsa: Ke 9th house: Cancer: Me Navamsa: Ma 10th house: Leo: Su-Ma Navamsa: Gk-Sa 11th house: Virgo: _ Navamsa: As 12th house: Libra: _ Navamsa: _ Basic Results: Age of the native at the time of chart analysis (i.e. As on Dec-2007): 35 years. The question is about 10th house about Job, and the analysis should concentrate on the same. 10th house is owned by Sun. The planet in 10th house should give Job, and related benefits. The native was running Ra Dasa Sun Antara during 21-Sep-2006 to 16-Aug-2007. Definitely this period must had given a job or a change in job ore permanency or rise of position to the native in profession in which he will continue for a long period of time. Currently Rahu Dasa Moon Antara is running, and it is from 16-Aug-2007 to 13-Feb-2009. The native place of the native is in Alappy, Kerala, but currently he is in Bombay, more than 2000 Km away from his native place – it was informed. The native argues that in Navamsa his 10th lord Sun is debilitated, but looking at the chart it is clear that the 10th lord Sun is NOT debilitated and also that Sun's navamsa is Libra in 7th house from natal lagna. With sun dasa running at the time of birth, with 4th house aspected by the house lord itself, the native is born in a moderate family, where the father was possibly in government service, or employed. In childhood the native was good in education during the Moon Dasa till approximately 13 years of age. During Mars dasa (13 to 20 years), there was some setback in the family (4th house aspected by Mars in 10th house and Saturn in 7th house causing Agni-Maruta yoga) and the troubles and turbulence might have affected even the fluent flow of the native's education as well – but any how which seems to have continued taking a technical turn. I request the native to confirm about a possible accident (fall from vehicle, vehicle accident or something falling on the native etc) happened in 19991, which might have caused the hospitalization of the native. There is a good possibility that the native is born in a family having many children with 2 or more sisters and possibly a brother. During the ending years of the Mars dasa itself (i.e. around 20 years) the native might have started earning possibly related to some establishment or undertaking some how related to brotherly relatives. By the end of Mars dasa the native's interest in education seems to have diminished and a clear shift of interest towards working and earnings is visible – though not much successful. The Rahu dasa (20 years onwards) caused a clear shift. With the problems in family and the need for extra income sources the native started searching for the same in distant places and left the other places becoming familiar alien and untidy life styles. It is a kind of life among unknown people with untidy routine – which still continues even though some sturdiness in life and job has already settled in. Even though aged 35 the native is yet to marry or even if married living away from wife and family. In short the settled happiness or family life is yet to manifest. The native has a moderate education and even at this age of 35 years he may go for some computer education and new certifications because he is running the Dasa of Rahu in 2nd house (education) and the Antara of Moon (9th lord=higher education) which is aspected by Mercury the 11th lord (higher education) placed in 9th house. He will successfully complete the certification and benefited by the same in his own profession. The native will become very favorable to the government. He would be interested in good deeds and would be popular. The native is distained to become very powerful and extremely popular and will receive awards or rewards – but all these results will manifest only in Jupiter dasa only and not prior to that. He will become famous by taking charge of constructing buildings (for public benefit) or any other such constructions that would benefit the general public. All good ones like the Vedic Brahmins will appreciate him, or good people in authority (He will promote the educated ones, and those who value culture, education and good will). Since sun is in 10th house, all the efforts of the native will become fruitful. But he will have to deal with sufferings caused by his mother. He will have to live away from his near and dear ones (relatives) and this will cause a bit of sadness to him. In the later part of the life the native is destined to become wealthy. Since sun is in 10th house, the native will lose interest in accomplishing the tasks. He would be meditative in nature (analyzing every possible aspects of the task at hand), radiant and would be obsessed with all kinds of competition. He will enjoy some family property. The native's lack of interest in accomplishing tasks springs from understanding the fact that there is only very few who could be in par with his as far as abilities are concerned. But then again in the current horoscope the good amount of abilities the native has and the insufficient qualifications he posses does not match and this is what currently causing his trouble in achieving expected success in profession. He owns a small vehicle or could be even a 4 wheeler but not of that good a quality – possibly a second hand vehicle. Or the possibility is that currently he is using a government vehicle (in which case the expense the government spends) for most of the travel purpose. About 10th House Sun is in 10th house, own house with navamsa in 7th from natal lagna in Taurus. The placement of sun in 10th should give mostly good results, but the same will not manifest strong enough in this chart due to the association of Sun with Mars, and also due to the turbulent past with imperfect education which we have already covered in the earlier section. The interest in education, occult subjects (since the native is Scorpio born) like astrology etc will continue and the coming Jupiter Dasa will give best possible beneficial results to the native. Mars afflicts Sun in 10th and this can cause job related troubles, since sun is the significator of 10th house placed in 10th house itself have a double impact on job due to this affliction. Actually the placement of sun 10th should make the native publicly popular, wealthy, kingly, and valorous and in effect a very successful and authentic individual – but the same will happen for this horoscope only by Jupiter Dasa. (after 38 years) . With the navamsa of 10th lord sun in Taurus and with Saturn aspecting 4th in the native may work in mechanical/railway related field OR tourism, hotel, or food/cosmetics business related field,. Anyhow a strong relation with government or authorities is strongly visible in the horoscope. (Shall I go for the choice of a railway or some other official working in government in a moderate post, in prediction? I am not sure). But for sure some job that demands urgency, tension, of some mechanical/technical/fiery industry related etc can be expected. Any how the native seems to be working some intermediate position which is currently not up to his expectation and satisfaction. The future holds good things for you in the forth-coming Jupiter dasa. Since the sun is in 10th house, the native would be very intelligent and rich. He will have wealth, vehicle, good relatives and friends, and children (good wife, children and family life). All his efforts will fructify. He would be incompatibly able and courageous, and would be very popular. Expect these good results to fructify in Jupiter dasa. I hope that at least 60% of these results predicted above are true and if not I regret my inability to give a good reading to the utmost satisfaction of the native, reflecting his current status, troubles and expected benefits. Love and regards, Sreenadh , jai <mahesh_jagannathan wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji,> > well here is a chance to keep the promise that u made( as the post is related to my query) and if u really are busy with no time frame provided ,then ur free from the promise that u made and i beg ur forgiveness for troubling u with my inconsiderate questions and promise to not bother u anymore.> > my question once again.> > mars the lagna lord is with sun in the 10th house and it's combust,also mars is debilitated in the navamsha .hence what are the considerations of this and what remedy can be done to rectify this.do we need to check the dik bala and the astavarga bindus for the lagna lord mars.> > Name :MAhesh Ayyer.> D.O.B--22/08/1972.> T.O.B-- 12:40 pm (AFternoon)> P.O.B--Alleppey ,Kerala (currently in Mumbai).> > > > The impurity of the mind is destroyed > through the performance of duty. MAHESH IYER.> > > > > > > Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 I find people getting elated on seeing Sun or exalted Sun in 10H. Yes, it is a excellent position - directional strength, exaltation...in 10H.....wah wah....then go balle balle....Wait, think for a while...what has the classics or experience say ?? Conclusion : Sun in 10H makes the person work hard, with less income !!?? i.e. work & income does not commensurated each other.....{ now do NOT rush back to see the ashtakvarga points....the conclusion statement is a standalone statement & works good irrespective of ashtakavarga.} Now decide to do balle balle or wah wah or.....etc. My two cents, but a heavy one !! with regards, sreeram srinivas , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > > Dear Mahesh ji, > Of course a reading about the 10th house of your chart was pending > for long - I giving it today upto your satisfaction or dissatisfaction. > I checked your chart today and the following is the reading - > Natal Chart of Mahesh Iyer > > Natal chart: 22-Aug-1972: 12.40 PM IST Alappy. Long:76E18 Lat:9N30 > Time Zone:5.30 East of GMT Year Length: 365.2425 (Normal solar year) > > Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa (46 min more than Lahari Ayanamsa) > > Dasa considered: Vimsottari Dasa from Moon. > > 1st house: Scorpio: Lagna-Gk Navamsa: _ > > 2nd house: Sagittarius: (Ju)-Ra Navamsa: Ra-Me > > 3rd house: Capricorn: Mo Navamsa: _ > > 4th house: Aquarius: _ Navamsa: Mo > > 5th house: Pisces: _ Navamsa: Ve > > 6th house: Aries: _ Navamsa: _ > > 7th house: Taurus: Sa Navamsa: (Ju)-Su > > 8th house: Gemini: Ve-Ke Navamsa: Ke > > 9th house: Cancer: Me Navamsa: Ma > > 10th house: Leo: Su-Ma Navamsa: Gk-Sa > > 11th house: Virgo: _ Navamsa: As > > 12th house: Libra: _ Navamsa: _ > > Basic Results: > > Age of the native at the time of chart analysis (i.e. As on > Dec-2007): 35 years. The question is about 10th house about Job, and the > analysis should concentrate on the same. 10th house is owned by Sun. The > planet in 10th house should give Job, and related benefits. The native > was running Ra Dasa Sun Antara during 21-Sep-2006 to 16-Aug-2007. > Definitely this period must had given a job or a change in job ore > permanency or rise of position to the native in profession in which he > will continue for a long period of time. Currently Rahu Dasa Moon Antara > is running, and it is from 16-Aug-2007 to 13-Feb-2009. The native place > of the native is in Alappy, Kerala, but currently he is in Bombay, more > than 2000 Km away from his native place – it was informed. The > native argues that in Navamsa his 10th lord Sun is debilitated, but > looking at the chart it is clear that the 10th lord Sun is NOT > debilitated and also that Sun's navamsa is Libra in 7th house from > natal lagna. > > With sun dasa running at the time of birth, with 4th house > aspected by the house lord itself, the native is born in a moderate > family, where the father was possibly in government service, or > employed. In childhood the native was good in education during the Moon > Dasa till approximately 13 years of age. During Mars dasa (13 to 20 > years), there was some setback in the family (4th house aspected by > Mars in 10th house and Saturn in 7th house causing Agni-Maruta yoga) and > the troubles and turbulence might have affected even the fluent flow of > the native's education as well – but any how which seems to have > continued taking a technical turn. > > I request the native to confirm about a possible accident (fall from > vehicle, vehicle accident or something falling on the native etc) > happened in 19991, which might have caused the hospitalization of the > native. > > There is a good possibility that the native is born in a family having > many children with 2 or more sisters and possibly a brother. During the > ending years of the Mars dasa itself (i.e. around 20 years) the native > might have started earning possibly related to some establishment or > undertaking some how related to brotherly relatives. By the end of Mars > dasa the native's interest in education seems to have diminished and > a clear shift of interest towards working and earnings is visible – > though not much successful. > > The Rahu dasa (20 years onwards) caused a clear shift. With > the problems in family and the need for extra income sources the native > started searching for the same in distant places and left the other > places becoming familiar alien and untidy life styles. It is a kind of > life among unknown people with untidy routine – which still > continues even though some sturdiness in life and job has already > settled in. > > Even though aged 35 the native is yet to marry or even if > married living away from wife and family. In short the settled happiness > or family life is yet to manifest. The native has a moderate education > and even at this age of 35 years he may go for some computer education > and new certifications because he is running the Dasa of Rahu in 2nd > house (education) and the Antara of Moon (9th lord=higher education) > which is aspected by Mercury the 11th lord (higher education) placed in > 9th house. He will successfully complete the certification and benefited > by the same in his own profession. > > The native will become very favorable to the government. He > would be interested in good deeds and would be popular. The native is > distained to become very powerful and extremely popular and will receive > awards or rewards – but all these results will manifest only in > Jupiter dasa only and not prior to that. He will become famous by taking > charge of constructing buildings (for public benefit) or any other such > constructions that would benefit the general public. All good ones like > the Vedic Brahmins will appreciate him, or good people in authority (He > will promote the educated ones, and those who value culture, education > and good will). Since sun is in 10th house, all the efforts of the > native will become fruitful. But he will have to deal with sufferings > caused by his mother. He will have to live away from his near and dear > ones (relatives) and this will cause a bit of sadness to him. In the > later part of the life the native is destined to become wealthy. > > Since sun is in 10th house, the native will lose interest in > accomplishing the tasks. He would be meditative in nature (analyzing > every possible aspects of the task at hand), radiant and would be > obsessed with all kinds of competition. He will enjoy some family > property. The native's lack of interest in accomplishing tasks > springs from understanding the fact that there is only very few who > could be in par with his as far as abilities are concerned. But then > again in the current horoscope the good amount of abilities the native > has and the insufficient qualifications he posses does not match and > this is what currently causing his trouble in achieving expected success > in profession. > > He owns a small vehicle or could be even a 4 wheeler but not > of that good a quality – possibly a second hand vehicle. Or the > possibility is that currently he is using a government vehicle (in which > case the expense the government spends) for most of the travel purpose. > > About 10th House > > Sun is in 10th house, own house with navamsa in 7th from > natal lagna in Taurus. The placement of sun in 10th should give mostly > good results, but the same will not manifest strong enough in this chart > due to the association of Sun with Mars, and also due to the turbulent > past with imperfect education which we have already covered in the > earlier section. The interest in education, occult subjects (since the > native is Scorpio born) like astrology etc will continue and the coming > Jupiter Dasa will give best possible beneficial results to the native. > > Mars afflicts Sun in 10th and this can cause job related > troubles, since sun is the significator of 10th house placed in 10th > house itself have a double impact on job due to this affliction. > Actually the placement of sun 10th should make the native publicly > popular, wealthy, kingly, and valorous and in effect a very successful > and authentic individual – but the same will happen for this > horoscope only by Jupiter Dasa. (after 38 years) . > > With the navamsa of 10th lord sun in Taurus and with Saturn > aspecting 4th in the native may work in mechanical/railway related field > OR tourism, hotel, or food/cosmetics business related field,. Anyhow a > strong relation with government or authorities is strongly visible in > the horoscope. (Shall I go for the choice of a railway or some other > official working in government in a moderate post, in prediction? I am > not sure). But for sure some job that demands urgency, tension, of some > mechanical/technical/fiery industry related etc can be expected. Any how > the native seems to be working some intermediate position which is > currently not up to his expectation and satisfaction. > > The future holds good things for you in the forth-coming Jupiter dasa. > Since the sun is in 10th house, the native would be very intelligent and > rich. He will have wealth, vehicle, good relatives and friends, and > children (good wife, children and family life). All his efforts will > fructify. He would be incompatibly able and courageous, and would be > very popular. Expect these good results to fructify in Jupiter dasa. > > I hope that at least 60% of these results predicted above are true and > if not I regret my inability to give a good reading to the utmost > satisfaction of the native, reflecting his current status, troubles and > expected benefits. > > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , jai > mahesh_jagannathan@ wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > well here is a chance to keep the promise that u made( as the post is > related to my query) and if u really are busy with no time frame > provided ,then ur free from the promise that u made and i beg ur > forgiveness for troubling u with my inconsiderate questions and promise > to not bother u anymore. > > > > my question once again. > > > > mars the lagna lord is with sun in the 10th house and it's > combust,also mars is debilitated in the navamsha .hence what are the > considerations of this and what remedy can be done to rectify this.do we > need to check the dik bala and the astavarga bindus for the lagna lord > mars. > > > > Name :MAhesh Ayyer. > > D.O.B--22/08/1972. > > T.O.B-- 12:40 pm (AFternoon) > > P.O.B--Alleppey ,Kerala (currently in Mumbai). > > > > > > > > The impurity of the mind is destroyed > > through the performance of duty. MAHESH IYER. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Dear Kiran ji, Note that I am not looking at any D-charts. But rather " the navamsa varga is SUPER IMPOSED on top of the natal chart " as in mixed chart style you will find in JHora. This applies all other varga readings as well. It is the ancient classics approved, traditional chart reading style prevalent through out south india and was once popular throughout india (before some one introduced this stupid D-chart style something like 200 years before in north) Love and regards, Sreenadh , " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama wrote: > > Sreenadhji > > Why are you looking at navamsa chart D-9. Should'nt D-1 natal chart > suffice > > Regards > kIran > > , " sreeram srinivas " > <sreeram64@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I find people getting elated on seeing Sun or exalted Sun in 10H. Yes, > > it is a excellent position - directional strength, exaltation...in > > 10H.....wah wah....then go balle balle....Wait, think for a while...what > > has the classics or experience say ?? > > > > Conclusion : Sun in 10H makes the person work hard, with less income > > !!?? i.e. work & income does not commensurated each other.....{ now do > > NOT rush back to see the ashtakvarga points....the conclusion statement > > is a standalone statement & works good irrespective of ashtakavarga.} > > > > Now decide to do balle balle or wah wah or.....etc. > > > > My two cents, but a heavy one !! > > > > with regards, > > > > sreeram srinivas > > > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Mahesh ji, > > > Of course a reading about the 10th house of your chart was pending > > > for long - I giving it today upto your satisfaction or > > dissatisfaction. > > > I checked your chart today and the following is the reading - > > > Natal Chart of Mahesh Iyer > > > > > > Natal chart: 22-Aug-1972: 12.40 PM IST Alappy. Long:76E18 Lat:9N30 > > > Time Zone:5.30 East of GMT Year Length: 365.2425 (Normal solar year) > > > > > > Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa (46 min more than Lahari Ayanamsa) > > > > > > Dasa considered: Vimsottari Dasa from Moon. > > > > > > 1st house: Scorpio: Lagna-Gk Navamsa: _ > > > > > > 2nd house: Sagittarius: (Ju)-Ra Navamsa: Ra-Me > > > > > > 3rd house: Capricorn: Mo Navamsa: _ > > > > > > 4th house: Aquarius: _ Navamsa: Mo > > > > > > 5th house: Pisces: _ Navamsa: Ve > > > > > > 6th house: Aries: _ Navamsa: _ > > > > > > 7th house: Taurus: Sa Navamsa: (Ju)-Su > > > > > > 8th house: Gemini: Ve-Ke Navamsa: Ke > > > > > > 9th house: Cancer: Me Navamsa: Ma > > > > > > 10th house: Leo: Su-Ma Navamsa: Gk-Sa > > > > > > 11th house: Virgo: _ Navamsa: As > > > > > > 12th house: Libra: _ Navamsa: _ > > > > > > Basic Results: > > > > > > Age of the native at the time of chart analysis (i.e. As on > > > Dec-2007): 35 years. The question is about 10th house about Job, and > > the > > > analysis should concentrate on the same. 10th house is owned by Sun. > > The > > > planet in 10th house should give Job, and related benefits. The native > > > was running Ra Dasa Sun Antara during 21-Sep-2006 to 16-Aug- 2007. > > > Definitely this period must had given a job or a change in job ore > > > permanency or rise of position to the native in profession in which he > > > will continue for a long period of time. Currently Rahu Dasa Moon > > Antara > > > is running, and it is from 16-Aug-2007 to 13-Feb-2009. The native > > place > > > of the native is in Alappy, Kerala, but currently he is in Bombay, > > more > > > than 2000 Km away from his native place – it was informed. The > > > native argues that in Navamsa his 10th lord Sun is debilitated, but > > > looking at the chart it is clear that the 10th lord Sun is NOT > > > debilitated and also that Sun's navamsa is Libra in 7th house from > > > natal lagna. > > > > > > With sun dasa running at the time of birth, with 4th house > > > aspected by the house lord itself, the native is born in a moderate > > > family, where the father was possibly in government service, or > > > employed. In childhood the native was good in education during the > > Moon > > > Dasa till approximately 13 years of age. During Mars dasa (13 to 20 > > > years), there was some setback in the family (4th house aspected by > > > Mars in 10th house and Saturn in 7th house causing Agni-Maruta yoga) > > and > > > the troubles and turbulence might have affected even the fluent flow > > of > > > the native's education as well – but any how which seems to have > > > continued taking a technical turn. > > > > > > I request the native to confirm about a possible accident (fall from > > > vehicle, vehicle accident or something falling on the native etc) > > > happened in 19991, which might have caused the hospitalization of the > > > native. > > > > > > There is a good possibility that the native is born in a family having > > > many children with 2 or more sisters and possibly a brother. During > > the > > > ending years of the Mars dasa itself (i.e. around 20 years) the native > > > might have started earning possibly related to some establishment or > > > undertaking some how related to brotherly relatives. By the end of > > Mars > > > dasa the native's interest in education seems to have diminished and > > > a clear shift of interest towards working and earnings is visible > > – > > > though not much successful. > > > > > > The Rahu dasa (20 years onwards) caused a clear shift. With > > > the problems in family and the need for extra income sources the > > native > > > started searching for the same in distant places and left the other > > > places becoming familiar alien and untidy life styles. It is a kind of > > > life among unknown people with untidy routine – which still > > > continues even though some sturdiness in life and job has already > > > settled in. > > > > > > Even though aged 35 the native is yet to marry or even if > > > married living away from wife and family. In short the settled > > happiness > > > or family life is yet to manifest. The native has a moderate education > > > and even at this age of 35 years he may go for some computer education > > > and new certifications because he is running the Dasa of Rahu in 2nd > > > house (education) and the Antara of Moon (9th lord=higher education) > > > which is aspected by Mercury the 11th lord (higher education) placed > > in > > > 9th house. He will successfully complete the certification and > > benefited > > > by the same in his own profession. > > > > > > The native will become very favorable to the government. He > > > would be interested in good deeds and would be popular. The native is > > > distained to become very powerful and extremely popular and will > > receive > > > awards or rewards – but all these results will manifest only in > > > Jupiter dasa only and not prior to that. He will become famous by > > taking > > > charge of constructing buildings (for public benefit) or any other > > such > > > constructions that would benefit the general public. All good ones > > like > > > the Vedic Brahmins will appreciate him, or good people in authority > > (He > > > will promote the educated ones, and those who value culture, education > > > and good will). Since sun is in 10th house, all the efforts of the > > > native will become fruitful. But he will have to deal with sufferings > > > caused by his mother. He will have to live away from his near and dear > > > ones (relatives) and this will cause a bit of sadness to him. In the > > > later part of the life the native is destined to become wealthy. > > > > > > Since sun is in 10th house, the native will lose interest in > > > accomplishing the tasks. He would be meditative in nature (analyzing > > > every possible aspects of the task at hand), radiant and would be > > > obsessed with all kinds of competition. He will enjoy some family > > > property. The native's lack of interest in accomplishing tasks > > > springs from understanding the fact that there is only very few who > > > could be in par with his as far as abilities are concerned. But then > > > again in the current horoscope the good amount of abilities the native > > > has and the insufficient qualifications he posses does not match and > > > this is what currently causing his trouble in achieving expected > > success > > > in profession. > > > > > > He owns a small vehicle or could be even a 4 wheeler but not > > > of that good a quality – possibly a second hand vehicle. Or the > > > possibility is that currently he is using a government vehicle (in > > which > > > case the expense the government spends) for most of the travel > > purpose. > > > > > > About 10th House > > > > > > Sun is in 10th house, own house with navamsa in 7th from > > > natal lagna in Taurus. The placement of sun in 10th should give mostly > > > good results, but the same will not manifest strong enough in this > > chart > > > due to the association of Sun with Mars, and also due to the turbulent > > > past with imperfect education which we have already covered in the > > > earlier section. The interest in education, occult subjects (since the > > > native is Scorpio born) like astrology etc will continue and the > > coming > > > Jupiter Dasa will give best possible beneficial results to the native. > > > > > > Mars afflicts Sun in 10th and this can cause job related > > > troubles, since sun is the significator of 10th house placed in 10th > > > house itself have a double impact on job due to this affliction. > > > Actually the placement of sun 10th should make the native publicly > > > popular, wealthy, kingly, and valorous and in effect a very successful > > > and authentic individual – but the same will happen for this > > > horoscope only by Jupiter Dasa. (after 38 years) . > > > > > > With the navamsa of 10th lord sun in Taurus and with Saturn > > > aspecting 4th in the native may work in mechanical/railway related > > field > > > OR tourism, hotel, or food/cosmetics business related field,. Anyhow a > > > strong relation with government or authorities is strongly visible in > > > the horoscope. (Shall I go for the choice of a railway or some other > > > official working in government in a moderate post, in prediction? I am > > > not sure). But for sure some job that demands urgency, tension, of > > some > > > mechanical/technical/fiery industry related etc can be expected. Any > > how > > > the native seems to be working some intermediate position which is > > > currently not up to his expectation and satisfaction. > > > > > > The future holds good things for you in the forth-coming Jupiter dasa. > > > Since the sun is in 10th house, the native would be very intelligent > > and > > > rich. He will have wealth, vehicle, good relatives and friends, and > > > children (good wife, children and family life). All his efforts will > > > fructify. He would be incompatibly able and courageous, and would be > > > very popular. Expect these good results to fructify in Jupiter dasa. > > > > > > I hope that at least 60% of these results predicted above are true and > > > if not I regret my inability to give a good reading to the utmost > > > satisfaction of the native, reflecting his current status, troubles > > and > > > expected benefits. > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , jai > > > mahesh_jagannathan@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > > > > > well here is a chance to keep the promise that u made( as the post > > is > > > related to my query) and if u really are busy with no time frame > > > provided ,then ur free from the promise that u made and i beg ur > > > forgiveness for troubling u with my inconsiderate questions and > > promise > > > to not bother u anymore. > > > > > > > > my question once again. > > > > > > > > mars the lagna lord is with sun in the 10th house and it's > > > combust,also mars is debilitated in the navamsha .hence what are the > > > considerations of this and what remedy can be done to rectify this.do > > we > > > need to check the dik bala and the astavarga bindus for the lagna lord > > > mars. > > > > > > > > Name :MAhesh Ayyer. > > > > D.O.B--22/08/1972. > > > > T.O.B-- 12:40 pm (AFternoon) > > > > P.O.B--Alleppey ,Kerala (currently in Mumbai). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The impurity of the mind is destroyed > > > > through the performance of duty. MAHESH IYER. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Kiranji, I feel use of Sri Chakra is a better thing to do, than use of Divisional charts for it give better visualization. There are controversies in using as D-chart, though Late Sri B.V. Raman, Sri K.N. Rao ...etc. used it, but centered on 2-3 slokas in BPHS, which is also "depends" on individual interpretations or take on that. In comparision to 2-3, there are many slokas elsewhere where amsa are to be contained in the signs itself. Further, Late Sri Shesadri Iyer {correct me on this} in his book "New Techniques of Prediction Vol-1 to 3", does not support D-charts or its aspect, only mentions amsa if its dispositors are related to 6,8,12....says bad..etc.. This books were out of print for many years, till a Bangalore based publisher revived with a help of a astro_ICAS stalwart. They are available with Ranjan Publications Costs Rs. 50+55 for Vol-1 & 2. Great books, must to read by every aspiring astro. with regards,sreeram srinivas , "kiran.rama" <kiran.rama wrote: Sreenadhji Why are you looking at navamsa chart D-9. Should'nt D-1 natal chart suffice Regards kIran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Dear Sreenadh, * * * * * before some one introduced this stupid D-chart style something like 200 years before in north * * * * * There can be difference in opinion and that does not make one of them necessarily incorrect. Also there always difference between fact and belief. Belief does not change the fact... but everyone would swear by their own beliefs to be true. Anyway if great scholars of the past used them, they got to have some merit! Wouldn't they? A tolerant attitude can bring new lights to unknown areas! Rejecting something outrightly without using and testing it sufficiently, makes you belong to the same category as the so called rationalist who swear that astrology is nothing but fooling others :-). Words like stupid might be a bit inappropriate given the fact that there are difference in opinion on this matter. Regards Sarajit On Dec 5, 2007 1:28 PM, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Kiran ji,Note that I am not looking at any D-charts. But rather " the navamsa varga is SUPER IMPOSED on top of the natal chart " as in mixed chart style you will find in JHora. This applies all other varga readings as well. It is the ancient classics approved, traditional chart reading style prevalent through out south india and was once popular throughout india (before some one introduced this stupid D-chart style something like 200 years before in north) Love and regards,Sreenadh , " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama wrote:>> Sreenadhji> > Why are you looking at navamsa chart D-9. Should'nt D-1 natal chart> suffice> > Regards> kIran > > , " sreeram srinivas " > <sreeram64@> wrote:> > > > > > > > I find people getting elated on seeing Sun or exalted Sun in 10H. Yes,> > it is a excellent position - directional strength, exaltation...in> > 10H.....wah wah....then go balle balle....Wait, think for a while...what> > has the classics or experience say ??> > > > Conclusion : Sun in 10H makes the person work hard, with less income> > !!?? i.e. work & income does not commensurated each other.....{ now do> > NOT rush back to see the ashtakvarga points....the conclusion statement> > is a standalone statement & works good irrespective of ashtakavarga.}> > > > Now decide to do balle balle or wah wah or.....etc. > > > > My two cents, but a heavy one !!> > > > with regards,> > > > sreeram srinivas> > > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Mahesh ji,> > > Of course a reading about the 10th house of your chart was pending> > > for long - I giving it today upto your satisfaction or> > dissatisfaction.> > > I checked your chart today and the following is the reading -> > > Natal Chart of Mahesh Iyer > > >> > > Natal chart: 22-Aug-1972: 12.40 PM IST Alappy. Long:76E18 Lat:9N30> > > Time Zone:5.30 East of GMT Year Length: 365.2425 (Normal solar year)> > >> > > Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa (46 min more than Lahari Ayanamsa) > > >> > > Dasa considered: Vimsottari Dasa from Moon.> > >> > > 1st house: Scorpio: Lagna-Gk Navamsa: _> > >> > > 2nd house: Sagittarius: (Ju)-Ra Navamsa: Ra-Me > > >> > > 3rd house: Capricorn: Mo Navamsa: _> > >> > > 4th house: Aquarius: _ Navamsa: Mo> > >> > > 5th house: Pisces: _ Navamsa: Ve> > > > > > 6th house: Aries: _ Navamsa: _> > >> > > 7th house: Taurus: Sa Navamsa: (Ju)-Su> > >> > > 8th house: Gemini: Ve-Ke Navamsa: Ke> > >> > > 9th house: Cancer: Me Navamsa: Ma > > >> > > 10th house: Leo: Su-Ma Navamsa: Gk-Sa> > >> > > 11th house: Virgo: _ Navamsa: As> > >> > > 12th house: Libra: _ Navamsa: _> > > > > > Basic Results:> > >> > > Age of the native at the time of chart analysis (i.e. As on> > > Dec-2007): 35 years. The question is about 10th house about Job, and > > the> > > analysis should concentrate on the same. 10th house is owned by Sun.> > The> > > planet in 10th house should give Job, and related benefits. The native> > > was running Ra Dasa Sun Antara during 21-Sep-2006 to 16-Aug- 2007.> > > Definitely this period must had given a job or a change in job ore> > > permanency or rise of position to the native in profession in which he> > > will continue for a long period of time. Currently Rahu Dasa Moon> > Antara> > > is running, and it is from 16-Aug-2007 to 13-Feb-2009. The native> > place> > > of the native is in Alappy, Kerala, but currently he is in Bombay, > > more> > > than 2000 Km away from his native place – it was informed. The> > > native argues that in Navamsa his 10th lord Sun is debilitated, but> > > looking at the chart it is clear that the 10th lord Sun is NOT > > > debilitated and also that Sun's navamsa is Libra in 7th house from> > > natal lagna.> > >> > > With sun dasa running at the time of birth, with 4th house > > > aspected by the house lord itself, the native is born in a moderate> > > family, where the father was possibly in government service, or> > > employed. In childhood the native was good in education during the> > Moon> > > Dasa till approximately 13 years of age. During Mars dasa (13 to 20> > > years), there was some setback in the family (4th house aspected by> > > Mars in 10th house and Saturn in 7th house causing Agni-Maruta yoga)> > and> > > the troubles and turbulence might have affected even the fluent flow> > of> > > the native's education as well – but any how which seems to have > > > continued taking a technical turn.> > >> > > I request the native to confirm about a possible accident (fall from> > > vehicle, vehicle accident or something falling on the native etc)> > > happened in 19991, which might have caused the hospitalization of the> > > native.> > >> > > There is a good possibility that the native is born in a family having> > > many children with 2 or more sisters and possibly a brother. During> > the> > > ending years of the Mars dasa itself (i.e. around 20 years) the native> > > might have started earning possibly related to some establishment or> > > undertaking some how related to brotherly relatives. By the end of> > Mars> > > dasa the native's interest in education seems to have diminished and > > > a clear shift of interest towards working and earnings is visible> > –> > > though not much successful.> > >> > > The Rahu dasa (20 years onwards) caused a clear shift. With > > > the problems in family and the need for extra income sources the> > native> > > started searching for the same in distant places and left the other> > > places becoming familiar alien and untidy life styles. It is a kind of> > > life among unknown people with untidy routine – which still> > > continues even though some sturdiness in life and job has already> > > settled in.> > > > > > Even though aged 35 the native is yet to marry or even if> > > married living away from wife and family. In short the settled> > happiness> > > or family life is yet to manifest. The native has a moderate education> > > and even at this age of 35 years he may go for some computer education> > > and new certifications because he is running the Dasa of Rahu in 2nd> > > house (education) and the Antara of Moon (9th lord=higher education)> > > which is aspected by Mercury the 11th lord (higher education) placed> > in> > > 9th house. He will successfully complete the certification and> > benefited > > > by the same in his own profession.> > >> > > The native will become very favorable to the government. He> > > would be interested in good deeds and would be popular. The native is> > > distained to become very powerful and extremely popular and will> > receive> > > awards or rewards – but all these results will manifest only in> > > Jupiter dasa only and not prior to that. He will become famous by> > taking> > > charge of constructing buildings (for public benefit) or any other> > such> > > constructions that would benefit the general public. All good ones > > like> > > the Vedic Brahmins will appreciate him, or good people in authority> > (He> > > will promote the educated ones, and those who value culture, education > > > and good will). Since sun is in 10th house, all the efforts of the> > > native will become fruitful. But he will have to deal with sufferings> > > caused by his mother. He will have to live away from his near and dear> > > ones (relatives) and this will cause a bit of sadness to him. In the> > > later part of the life the native is destined to become wealthy.> > >> > > Since sun is in 10th house, the native will lose interest in > > > accomplishing the tasks. He would be meditative in nature (analyzing> > > every possible aspects of the task at hand), radiant and would be> > > obsessed with all kinds of competition. He will enjoy some family> > > property. The native's lack of interest in accomplishing tasks> > > springs from understanding the fact that there is only very few who> > > could be in par with his as far as abilities are concerned. But then> > > again in the current horoscope the good amount of abilities the native> > > has and the insufficient qualifications he posses does not match and> > > this is what currently causing his trouble in achieving expected > > success> > > in profession.> > >> > > He owns a small vehicle or could be even a 4 wheeler but not> > > of that good a quality – possibly a second hand vehicle. Or the > > > possibility is that currently he is using a government vehicle (in> > which> > > case the expense the government spends) for most of the travel> > purpose.> > > > > > About 10th House> > >> > > Sun is in 10th house, own house with navamsa in 7th from> > > natal lagna in Taurus. The placement of sun in 10th should give mostly > > > good results, but the same will not manifest strong enough in this> > chart> > > due to the association of Sun with Mars, and also due to the turbulent> > > past with imperfect education which we have already covered in the> > > earlier section. The interest in education, occult subjects (since the> > > native is Scorpio born) like astrology etc will continue and the> > coming> > > Jupiter Dasa will give best possible beneficial results to the native.> > >> > > Mars afflicts Sun in 10th and this can cause job related> > > troubles, since sun is the significator of 10th house placed in 10th> > > house itself have a double impact on job due to this affliction. > > > Actually the placement of sun 10th should make the native publicly> > > popular, wealthy, kingly, and valorous and in effect a very successful> > > and authentic individual – but the same will happen for this > > > horoscope only by Jupiter Dasa. (after 38 years) .> > >> > > With the navamsa of 10th lord sun in Taurus and with Saturn> > > aspecting 4th in the native may work in mechanical/railway related> > field> > > OR tourism, hotel, or food/cosmetics business related field,. Anyhow a> > > strong relation with government or authorities is strongly visible in> > > the horoscope. (Shall I go for the choice of a railway or some other> > > official working in government in a moderate post, in prediction? I am> > > not sure). But for sure some job that demands urgency, tension, of> > some> > > mechanical/technical/fiery industry related etc can be expected. Any> > how> > > the native seems to be working some intermediate position which is> > > currently not up to his expectation and satisfaction.> > >> > > The future holds good things for you in the forth-coming Jupiter dasa.> > > Since the sun is in 10th house, the native would be very intelligent> > and> > > rich. He will have wealth, vehicle, good relatives and friends, and> > > children (good wife, children and family life). All his efforts will> > > fructify. He would be incompatibly able and courageous, and would be> > > very popular. Expect these good results to fructify in Jupiter dasa.> > >> > > I hope that at least 60% of these results predicted above are true and> > > if not I regret my inability to give a good reading to the utmost> > > satisfaction of the native, reflecting his current status, troubles> > and> > > expected benefits. > > >> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > , jai> > > mahesh_jagannathan@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > > >> > > > well here is a chance to keep the promise that u made( as the post> > is> > > related to my query) and if u really are busy with no time frame> > > provided ,then ur free from the promise that u made and i beg ur> > > forgiveness for troubling u with my inconsiderate questions and > > promise> > > to not bother u anymore.> > > >> > > > my question once again.> > > >> > > > mars the lagna lord is with sun in the 10th house and it's > > > combust,also mars is debilitated in the navamsha .hence what are the> > > considerations of this and what remedy can be done to rectify this.do> > we> > > need to check the dik bala and the astavarga bindus for the lagna lord> > > mars.> > > >> > > > Name :MAhesh Ayyer.> > > > D.O.B--22/08/1972.> > > > T.O.B-- 12:40 pm (AFternoon)> > > > P.O.B--Alleppey ,Kerala (currently in Mumbai).> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The impurity of the mind is destroyed> > > > through the performance of duty. MAHESH IYER. > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > >> > >> >> -- Best WishesSarajit Poddar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Dear Sarajit ji,==>> There can be difference in opinion and that does not make one of > them necessarily incorrect.<== Agreed - as a possibility.==>> Anyway if great scholars of the past used them, they got> to have some merit! Wouldn't they?<== I believe you are referring to some scholars who lived with in the near past 200 years in north by the words "great scholars of the past", because it is they who used it. I am of the opinion that there is far more merit present in what was followed by the sages for thousands of years, than in something the yesterdays scholars of rain who won't be remembered for long created possibly due to their erroneous understanding. I am telling this because even in the period of Acharya Balabhadra (author of HoraRatna) of 17th century this practice of D-charts were NOT in use! Neither it is used by 16th century Nrisimha Daivajya (author of Jataka saradeepa) nor by 17th century Dundi Raja (author of Jatakabharana). How may scholars can you name who were as knowledgeable as Balabhadra, Nrisimha or Dundiraja after 17th century in practical astrology? I think none. Thus - 1) It seems that the use of D-charts is misunderstanding than something traditional. 2) The group is for 'Ancient' Indian Astrology, and such since the D-chart method is NOT ancient (having a history of less than 200 years), our prime interest is in understanding 'ancient indian astrology' in the same way the sages used it, and in the same way this ancient knowledge branch is presented in Rishi horas. Therefore, even if the D-chart methods have some merits, they can not became a major subject of discussion, or a method propagated in our group at all, due to the above said points! But still the believers in D-charts are always welcome to demonstrate their mastery on using D-charts, and the advantage of D-charts over natal chart and vargas in "BLIND CHART READINGS". Since astrology is a practical knowledge branch the usefulness of any tool that makes it valid and acceptable - than even the 'ancient' constraint I referred earlier. Therefore if you (or any other supporter of D-charts) can demonstrate the benefits of D-Charts (ranging from D-2 to D-300 and more) in practical blind chart readings, I am always ready to appreciate it and is open to possibilities. The point is - let us first accept concepts that are truly useful in practical astrology, all the extra decorations (some useful and some useless) we will think of later. Let us learn the core, the essence, first - this is my opinion.==>> Words like stupid might be a bit inappropriate given the fact that there are> difference in opinion on this matter.<== OK - accepted, and appologize, respecting the D-chart supporter. :)Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit.poddar wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh,> > * * * * *> before some one introduced this stupid D-chart> style something like 200 years before in north> * * * * *> There can be difference in opinion and that does not make one of them> necessarily incorrect. Also there always difference between fact and belief.> Belief does not change the fact... but everyone would swear by their own> beliefs to be true. Anyway if great scholars of the past used them, they got> to have some merit! Wouldn't they? A tolerant attitude can bring new lights> to unknown areas! Rejecting something outrightly without using and testing> it sufficiently, makes you belong to the same category as the so called> rationalist who swear that astrology is nothing but fooling others :-).> > Words like stupid might be a bit inappropriate given the fact that there are> difference in opinion on this matter.> > Regards> Sarajit> > > > On Dec 5, 2007 1:28 PM, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> > > Dear Kiran ji,> > Note that I am not looking at any D-charts. But rather "the navamsa> > varga is SUPER IMPOSED on top of the natal chart" as in mixed chart> > style you will find in JHora. This applies all other varga readings> > as well. It is the ancient classics approved, traditional chart> > reading style prevalent through out south india and was once popular> > throughout india (before some one introduced this stupid D-chart> > style something like 200 years before in north)> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> > <%40>,> > "kiran.rama"> >> > kiran.rama@ wrote:> > >> > > Sreenadhji> > >> > > Why are you looking at navamsa chart D-9. Should'nt D-1 natal chart> > > suffice> > >> > > Regards> > > kIran> > >> > > <%40>,> > "sreeram srinivas"> > > <sreeram64@> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > I find people getting elated on seeing Sun or exalted Sun in> > 10H. Yes,> > > > it is a excellent position - directional strength, exaltation...in> > > > 10H.....wah wah....then go balle balle....Wait, think for a> > while...what> > > > has the classics or experience say ??> > > >> > > > Conclusion : Sun in 10H makes the person work hard, with less> > income> > > > !!?? i.e. work & income does not commensurated each other.....{> > now do> > > > NOT rush back to see the ashtakvarga points....the conclusion> > statement> > > > is a standalone statement & works good irrespective of> > ashtakavarga.}> > > >> > > > Now decide to do balle balle or wah wah or.....etc.> > > >> > > > My two cents, but a heavy one !!> > > >> > > > with regards,> > > >> > > > sreeram srinivas> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > <%40>,> > "Sreenadh"> > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Mahesh ji,> > > > > Of course a reading about the 10th house of your chart was> > pending> > > > > for long - I giving it today upto your satisfaction or> > > > dissatisfaction.> > > > > I checked your chart today and the following is the reading -> > > > > Natal Chart of Mahesh Iyer> > > > >> > > > > Natal chart: 22-Aug-1972: 12.40 PM IST Alappy. Long:76E18> > Lat:9N30> > > > > Time Zone:5.30 East of GMT Year Length: 365.2425 (Normal solar> > year)> > > > >> > > > > Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa (46 min more than Lahari Ayanamsa)> > > > >> > > > > Dasa considered: Vimsottari Dasa from Moon.> > > > >> > > > > 1st house: Scorpio: Lagna-Gk Navamsa: _> > > > >> > > > > 2nd house: Sagittarius: (Ju)-Ra Navamsa: Ra-Me> > > > >> > > > > 3rd house: Capricorn: Mo Navamsa: _> > > > >> > > > > 4th house: Aquarius: _ Navamsa: Mo> > > > >> > > > > 5th house: Pisces: _ Navamsa: Ve> > > > >> > > > > 6th house: Aries: _ Navamsa: _> > > > >> > > > > 7th house: Taurus: Sa Navamsa: (Ju)-Su> > > > >> > > > > 8th house: Gemini: Ve-Ke Navamsa: Ke> > > > >> > > > > 9th house: Cancer: Me Navamsa: Ma> > > > >> > > > > 10th house: Leo: Su-Ma Navamsa: Gk-Sa> > > > >> > > > > 11th house: Virgo: _ Navamsa: As> > > > >> > > > > 12th house: Libra: _ Navamsa: _> > > > >> > > > > Basic Results:> > > > >> > > > > Age of the native at the time of chart analysis (i.e. As on> > > > > Dec-2007): 35 years. The question is about 10th house about> > Job, and> > > > the> > > > > analysis should concentrate on the same. 10th house is owned by> > Sun.> > > > The> > > > > planet in 10th house should give Job, and related benefits. The> > native> > > > > was running Ra Dasa Sun Antara during 21-Sep-2006 to 16-Aug-> > 2007.> > > > > Definitely this period must had given a job or a change in job> > ore> > > > > permanency or rise of position to the native in profession in> > which he> > > > > will continue for a long period of time. Currently Rahu Dasa> > Moon> > > > Antara> > > > > is running, and it is from 16-Aug-2007 to 13-Feb-2009. The> > native> > > > place> > > > > of the native is in Alappy, Kerala, but currently he is in> > Bombay,> > > > more> > > > > than 2000 Km away from his native place – it was informed. The> > > > > native argues that in Navamsa his 10th lord Sun is debilitated,> > but> > > > > looking at the chart it is clear that the 10th lord Sun is NOT> > > > > debilitated and also that Sun's navamsa is Libra in 7th house> > from> > > > > natal lagna.> > > > >> > > > > With sun dasa running at the time of birth, with 4th house> > > > > aspected by the house lord itself, the native is born in a> > moderate> > > > > family, where the father was possibly in government service, or> > > > > employed. In childhood the native was good in education during> > the> > > > Moon> > > > > Dasa till approximately 13 years of age. During Mars dasa (13> > to 20> > > > > years), there was some setback in the family (4th house> > aspected by> > > > > Mars in 10th house and Saturn in 7th house causing Agni-Maruta> > yoga)> > > > and> > > > > the troubles and turbulence might have affected even the fluent> > flow> > > > of> > > > > the native's education as well – but any how which seems to have> > > > > continued taking a technical turn.> > > > >> > > > > I request the native to confirm about a possible accident (fall> > from> > > > > vehicle, vehicle accident or something falling on the native> > etc)> > > > > happened in 19991, which might have caused the hospitalization> > of the> > > > > native.> > > > >> > > > > There is a good possibility that the native is born in a family> > having> > > > > many children with 2 or more sisters and possibly a brother.> > During> > > > the> > > > > ending years of the Mars dasa itself (i.e. around 20 years) the> > native> > > > > might have started earning possibly related to some> > establishment or> > > > > undertaking some how related to brotherly relatives. By the end> > of> > > > Mars> > > > > dasa the native's interest in education seems to have> > diminished and> > > > > a clear shift of interest towards working and earnings is> > visible> > > > –> > > > > though not much successful.> > > > >> > > > > The Rahu dasa (20 years onwards) caused a clear shift. With> > > > > the problems in family and the need for extra income sources the> > > > native> > > > > started searching for the same in distant places and left the> > other> > > > > places becoming familiar alien and untidy life styles. It is a> > kind of> > > > > life among unknown people with untidy routine – which still> > > > > continues even though some sturdiness in life and job has> > already> > > > > settled in.> > > > >> > > > > Even though aged 35 the native is yet to marry or even if> > > > > married living away from wife and family. In short the settled> > > > happiness> > > > > or family life is yet to manifest. The native has a moderate> > education> > > > > and even at this age of 35 years he may go for some computer> > education> > > > > and new certifications because he is running the Dasa of Rahu> > in 2nd> > > > > house (education) and the Antara of Moon (9th lord=higher> > education)> > > > > which is aspected by Mercury the 11th lord (higher education)> > placed> > > > in> > > > > 9th house. He will successfully complete the certification and> > > > benefited> > > > > by the same in his own profession.> > > > >> > > > > The native will become very favorable to the government. He> > > > > would be interested in good deeds and would be popular. The> > native is> > > > > distained to become very powerful and extremely popular and will> > > > receive> > > > > awards or rewards – but all these results will manifest only in> > > > > Jupiter dasa only and not prior to that. He will become famous> > by> > > > taking> > > > > charge of constructing buildings (for public benefit) or any> > other> > > > such> > > > > constructions that would benefit the general public. All good> > ones> > > > like> > > > > the Vedic Brahmins will appreciate him, or good people in> > authority> > > > (He> > > > > will promote the educated ones, and those who value culture,> > education> > > > > and good will). Since sun is in 10th house, all the efforts of> > the> > > > > native will become fruitful. But he will have to deal with> > sufferings> > > > > caused by his mother. He will have to live away from his near> > and dear> > > > > ones (relatives) and this will cause a bit of sadness to him.> > In the> > > > > later part of the life the native is destined to become wealthy.> > > > >> > > > > Since sun is in 10th house, the native will lose interest in> > > > > accomplishing the tasks. He would be meditative in nature> > (analyzing> > > > > every possible aspects of the task at hand), radiant and would> > be> > > > > obsessed with all kinds of competition. He will enjoy some> > family> > > > > property. The native's lack of interest in accomplishing tasks> > > > > springs from understanding the fact that there is only very few> > who> > > > > could be in par with his as far as abilities are concerned. But> > then> > > > > again in the current horoscope the good amount of abilities the> > native> > > > > has and the insufficient qualifications he posses does not> > match and> > > > > this is what currently causing his trouble in achieving expected> > > > success> > > > > in profession.> > > > >> > > > > He owns a small vehicle or could be even a 4 wheeler but not> > > > > of that good a quality – possibly a second hand vehicle. Or the> > > > > possibility is that currently he is using a government vehicle> > (in> > > > which> > > > > case the expense the government spends) for most of the travel> > > > purpose.> > > > >> > > > > About 10th House> > > > >> > > > > Sun is in 10th house, own house with navamsa in 7th from> > > > > natal lagna in Taurus. The placement of sun in 10th should give> > mostly> > > > > good results, but the same will not manifest strong enough in> > this> > > > chart> > > > > due to the association of Sun with Mars, and also due to the> > turbulent> > > > > past with imperfect education which we have already covered in> > the> > > > > earlier section. The interest in education, occult subjects> > (since the> > > > > native is Scorpio born) like astrology etc will continue and the> > > > coming> > > > > Jupiter Dasa will give best possible beneficial results to the> > native.> > > > >> > > > > Mars afflicts Sun in 10th and this can cause job related> > > > > troubles, since sun is the significator of 10th house placed in> > 10th> > > > > house itself have a double impact on job due to this affliction.> > > > > Actually the placement of sun 10th should make the native> > publicly> > > > > popular, wealthy, kingly, and valorous and in effect a very> > successful> > > > > and authentic individual – but the same will happen for this> > > > > horoscope only by Jupiter Dasa. (after 38 years) .> > > > >> > > > > With the navamsa of 10th lord sun in Taurus and with Saturn> > > > > aspecting 4th in the native may work in mechanical/railway> > related> > > > field> > > > > OR tourism, hotel, or food/cosmetics business related field,.> > Anyhow a> > > > > strong relation with government or authorities is strongly> > visible in> > > > > the horoscope. (Shall I go for the choice of a railway or some> > other> > > > > official working in government in a moderate post, in> > prediction? I am> > > > > not sure). But for sure some job that demands urgency, tension,> > of> > > > some> > > > > mechanical/technical/fiery industry related etc can be> > expected. Any> > > > how> > > > > the native seems to be working some intermediate position which> > is> > > > > currently not up to his expectation and satisfaction.> > > > >> > > > > The future holds good things for you in the forth-coming> > Jupiter dasa.> > > > > Since the sun is in 10th house, the native would be very> > intelligent> > > > and> > > > > rich. He will have wealth, vehicle, good relatives and friends,> > and> > > > > children (good wife, children and family life). All his efforts> > will> > > > > fructify. He would be incompatibly able and courageous, and> > would be> > > > > very popular. Expect these good results to fructify in Jupiter> > dasa.> > > > >> > > > > I hope that at least 60% of these results predicted above are> > true and> > > > > if not I regret my inability to give a good reading to the> > utmost> > > > > satisfaction of the native, reflecting his current status,> > troubles> > > > and> > > > > expected benefits.> > > > >> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > Sreenadh> > > > >> > > > > <%40>,> > jai> > > > > mahesh_jagannathan@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > well here is a chance to keep the promise that u made( as the> > post> > > > is> > > > > related to my query) and if u really are busy with no time frame> > > > > provided ,then ur free from the promise that u made and i beg ur> > > > > forgiveness for troubling u with my inconsiderate questions and> > > > promise> > > > > to not bother u anymore.> > > > > >> > > > > > my question once again.> > > > > >> > > > > > mars the lagna lord is with sun in the 10th house and it's> > > > > combust,also mars is debilitated in the navamsha .hence what> > are the> > > > > considerations of this and what remedy can be done to rectify> > this.do> > > > we> > > > > need to check the dik bala and the astavarga bindus for the> > lagna lord> > > > > mars.> > > > > >> > > > > > Name :MAhesh Ayyer.> > > > > > D.O.B--22/08/1972.> > > > > > T.O.B-- 12:40 pm (AFternoon)> > > > > > P.O.B--Alleppey ,Kerala (currently in Mumbai).> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > The impurity of the mind is destroyed> > > > > > through the performance of duty. MAHESH IYER.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > > -- > Best Wishes> Sarajit Poddar> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Dear Sreenadh, * * * * * * * * * > I believe you are referring to some scholars who lived with in the near past 200 years in north by the words " great scholars of the past " , because it is they who used it. I am of the opinion that there is far more merit present in what was followed by the sages for thousands of years, than in something the yesterdays scholars of rain who won't be remembered for long created possibly due to their erroneous understanding. I am telling this because even in the period of Acharya Balabhadra (author of HoraRatna) of 17th century this practice of D-charts were NOT in use! Neither it is used by 16th century Nrisimha Daivajya (author of Jataka saradeepa) nor by 17th century Dundi Raja (author of Jatakabharana). How may scholars can you name who were as knowledgeable as Balabhadra, Nrisimha or Dundiraja after 17th century in practical astrology? I think none. Thus - > 1) It seems that the use of D-charts is misunderstanding than something traditional. > 2) The group is for 'Ancient' Indian Astrology, and such since the D-chart method is NOT ancient (having a history of less than 200 years), our prime interest is in understanding 'ancient indian astrology' in the same way the sages used it, and in the same way this ancient knowledge branch is presented in Rishi horas. * * * * * * * * * I believe that the scholars are even ancient such as the Parashara, Kalyanverma etc. I am sure, you would say Parashara never talked of Divisional charts.... My answer would be it is just a matter of interpretation. I do not want a debate in this forum on this at this moment and hence I am not writing on the statements from the classics and how it can be interpreted to represent divisional charts. Many of my learning on the divisional charts are from my tradition and not from any such classics as not everything was written in the classics and was verbally transferred through the tradition (or many be many of them are lost). If you compare some classics such as Prashara Hora to others you would see that most of the books do not even give details on concepts like argala, rasi drsti, many udu dasas, rasi dasas and host of such things, the way they do not give details of divisioinal charts. Anyway, I do not want to discuss this topic any further at this moment. * * * * * * * * * > But still the believers in D-charts are always welcome to demonstrate their mastery on using D-charts, and the advantage of D-charts over natal chart and vargas in " BLIND CHART READINGS " . Since astrology is a practical knowledge branch the usefulness of any tool that makes it valid and acceptable - than even the 'ancient' constraint I referred earlier. Therefore if you (or any other supporter of D-charts) can demonstrate the benefits of D-Charts (ranging from D-2 to D-300 and more) in practical blind chart readings, I am always ready to appreciate it and is open to possibilities. * * * * * * * * * I would not like to do that. If I participate in any blind chart reading, I will use the generic priciples of planets in signs and houses, graha aspects, lords in different houses, yogas etc; since I believe then only it would be fair game. Anyway, the efficacy of a method cannot be seen using Blind Chart Readings due to human errors, but consistently applying the principles in numerous charts with fair degree of accuracy. My purpose of the mail was to highlight, not to be-little something which is held by others as infalliable; without giving a try... and not to discuss about divisional charts in a forum which is not meant to do so. I too believe there is more to understand on the basics before we venture into areas such as Divisional Charts. So the thread can be dropped here. Regards Sarajit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Daer sarajit , i think u r misintrepreting things . I dont think sreenadh said varga divisions should not be used ,OR its not in rishi horas or parashari or varahamihira or traditions dont discussed it . What he was telling against the use of varga charts like indipendent charts .Like the same way using all yogas,drishties ,and even dasas and conjns and then may be ashtavargas and all other technics shud be used in rasi chart in vargas. Again while i am expressing this if u can proove the usage of varga charts ,independent than rasi chart ,u r welcome to prove it .But it should be based on a chart for predicting only not by knowing the event and then justifying it . That any schools of astro is capable for it . My intention is always learn new things and expand my knowledge base .So any discussion in that direction is welcome . with regrds Vijayaraghavan guruvayur. , "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit.poddar wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh,> > * * * * * * * * *> > I believe you are referring to some scholars who lived with in the near past 200 years in north by the words "great scholars of the past", because it is they who used it. I am of the opinion that there is far more merit present in what was followed by the sages for thousands of years, than in something the yesterdays scholars of rain who won't be remembered for long created possibly due to their erroneous understanding. I am telling this because even in the period of Acharya Balabhadra (author of HoraRatna) of 17th century this practice of D-charts were NOT in use! Neither it is used by 16th century Nrisimha Daivajya (author of Jataka saradeepa) nor by 17th century Dundi Raja (author of Jatakabharana). How may scholars can you name who were as knowledgeable as Balabhadra, Nrisimha or Dundiraja after 17th century in practical astrology? I think none. Thus -> > 1) It seems that the use of D-charts is misunderstanding than something traditional.> > 2) The group is for 'Ancient' Indian Astrology, and such since the D-chart method is NOT ancient (having a history of less than 200 years), our prime interest is in understanding 'ancient indian astrology' in the same way the sages used it, and in the same way this ancient knowledge branch is presented in Rishi horas.> * * * * * * * * *> > I believe that the scholars are even ancient such as the Parashara,> Kalyanverma etc. I am sure, you would say Parashara never talked of> Divisional charts.... My answer would be it is just a matter of> interpretation. I do not want a debate in this forum on this at this> moment and hence I am not writing on the statements from the classics> and how it can be interpreted to represent divisional charts. Many of> my learning on the divisional charts are from my tradition and not> from any such classics as not everything was written in the classics> and was verbally transferred through the tradition (or many be many of> them are lost). If you compare some classics such as Prashara Hora to> others you would see that most of the books do not even give details> on concepts like argala, rasi drsti, many udu dasas, rasi dasas and> host of such things, the way they do not give details of divisioinal> charts. Anyway, I do not want to discuss this topic any further at> this moment.> > > > > * * * * * * * * *> > But still the believers in D-charts are always welcome to demonstrate their mastery on using D-charts, and the advantage of D-charts over natal chart and vargas in "BLIND CHART READINGS". Since astrology is a practical knowledge branch the usefulness of any tool that makes it valid and acceptable - than even the 'ancient' constraint I referred earlier. Therefore if you (or any other supporter of D-charts) can demonstrate the benefits of D-Charts (ranging from D-2 to D-300 and more) in practical blind chart readings, I am always ready to appreciate it and is open to possibilities. > * * * * * * * * *> > I would not like to do that. If I participate in any blind chart> reading, I will use the generic priciples of planets in signs and> houses, graha aspects, lords in different houses, yogas etc; since I> believe then only it would be fair game. Anyway, the efficacy of a> method cannot be seen using Blind Chart Readings due to human errors,> but consistently applying the principles in numerous charts with fair> degree of accuracy.> > My purpose of the mail was to highlight, not to be-little something> which is held by others as infalliable; without giving a try... and> not to discuss about divisional charts in a forum which is not meant> to do so. I too believe there is more to understand on the basics> before we venture into areas such as Divisional Charts.> > So the thread can be dropped here.> > Regards> Sarajit> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Dear Sarajit, ==> > the efficacy of a method cannot be seen using Blind Chart Readings > due to human errors, but consistently applying the principles in > numerous charts with fair degree of accuracy. <== Actually in all blind chart readings, what the participants are trying to do is to " applying the principles in (numerous) charts with fair degree of accuracy " itself. Actually in blind chart readings the participants are putting there whole knowledge and understanding about practical use of astrology in a 'test' to verify and ensure that wether the prinicples they depeneded and believed upon is trustworthy/dependable or not. ==> My purpose of the mail was to highlight, not to be-little something which is held by others as infalliable; without giving a try... and not to discuss about divisional charts in a forum which is not meant to do so. I too believe there is more to understand on the basics before we venture into areas such as Divisional Charts. <== Yes, I agree and appreciate that view point. Love, Sreenadh , " Sarajit Poddar " <sarajit.poddar wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh, > > * * * * * * * * * > > I believe you are referring to some scholars who lived with in the near past 200 years in north by the words " great scholars of the past " , because it is they who used it. I am of the opinion that there is far more merit present in what was followed by the sages for thousands of years, than in something the yesterdays scholars of rain who won't be remembered for long created possibly due to their erroneous understanding. I am telling this because even in the period of Acharya Balabhadra (author of HoraRatna) of 17th century this practice of D-charts were NOT in use! Neither it is used by 16th century Nrisimha Daivajya (author of Jataka saradeepa) nor by 17th century Dundi Raja (author of Jatakabharana). How may scholars can you name who were as knowledgeable as Balabhadra, Nrisimha or Dundiraja after 17th century in practical astrology? I think none. Thus - > > 1) It seems that the use of D-charts is misunderstanding than something traditional. > > 2) The group is for 'Ancient' Indian Astrology, and such since the D-chart method is NOT ancient (having a history of less than 200 years), our prime interest is in understanding 'ancient indian astrology' in the same way the sages used it, and in the same way this ancient knowledge branch is presented in Rishi horas. > * * * * * * * * * > > I believe that the scholars are even ancient such as the Parashara, > Kalyanverma etc. I am sure, you would say Parashara never talked of > Divisional charts.... My answer would be it is just a matter of > interpretation. I do not want a debate in this forum on this at this > moment and hence I am not writing on the statements from the classics > and how it can be interpreted to represent divisional charts. Many of > my learning on the divisional charts are from my tradition and not > from any such classics as not everything was written in the classics > and was verbally transferred through the tradition (or many be many of > them are lost). If you compare some classics such as Prashara Hora to > others you would see that most of the books do not even give details > on concepts like argala, rasi drsti, many udu dasas, rasi dasas and > host of such things, the way they do not give details of divisioinal > charts. Anyway, I do not want to discuss this topic any further at > this moment. > > * * * * * * * * * > > But still the believers in D-charts are always welcome to demonstrate their mastery on using D-charts, and the advantage of D- charts over natal chart and vargas in " BLIND CHART READINGS " . Since astrology is a practical knowledge branch the usefulness of any tool that makes it valid and acceptable - than even the 'ancient' constraint I referred earlier. Therefore if you (or any other supporter of D-charts) can demonstrate the benefits of D-Charts (ranging from D-2 to D-300 and more) in practical blind chart readings, I am always ready to appreciate it and is open to possibilities. > * * * * * * * * * > > I would not like to do that. If I participate in any blind chart > reading, I will use the generic priciples of planets in signs and > houses, graha aspects, lords in different houses, yogas etc; since I > believe then only it would be fair game. Anyway, the efficacy of a > method cannot be seen using Blind Chart Readings due to human errors, > but consistently applying the principles in numerous charts with fair > degree of accuracy. > > My purpose of the mail was to highlight, not to be-little something > which is held by others as infalliable; without giving a try... and > not to discuss about divisional charts in a forum which is not meant > to do so. I too believe there is more to understand on the basics > before we venture into areas such as Divisional Charts. > > So the thread can be dropped here. > > Regards > Sarajit > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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