some more on MAYA -2

October 20, 2007

Hello there, It is indeed so refreshing to see some sense of decency and clarity in thinking coming back to this site, after such an acrimoniuous exchange of HOT words, and rather nasty commenst that don't mean anything. I guess there will always be someone willing to put up a fistifight for the sake of making a point. However, there is so much uncertainty about the epics such as Ramayana, Valimkis' background and the sources get so clouded. It is better to accept these poetic masterpieces and take the best out of them. To dissect and cross analyze the sources or their authenticity would be so futile, since in many cases, there will be always some revisionist historians, wantin to lay stress on "their" viewpoints. The more powerful kings and their associates tend to obfuscate the eternal truth- that man tends to be mostly wanting to wield power by whatever means, This is the season of navarathri, and Durga Puja and soon

the Deepavali, and its festivities. Let us bury the hatchets and prepare to smile and forgive the trespasses of others. Just say Good wishes and Happy Tidings and the best of Seasons greetings. babu krishnan Framingham Massachusetts USA ayeshathyabali <ayeshathyabali wrote: Hi Dear,You are so right, yes, leave the erotic figures and all alone. Thosewho wish to be excited by the looks of these, well let them go

aheadand excite themselves. After all in the days of old, no one live on jewels or troubles etc,.etc.,It was all love and fresh air indeed!!! I agree with you, you areso right in asking this question , yes, God said : Go forth Increaseand Multiply,hence, this was like open air teaching of increasing andmultiplying.Our ancestors hardly used any clothes at all, baring their breast thewomen flaunted their wares, and the men dangling their tools harldywore any under wear!!! So why bother about this now, the past is past,and civilization has changed all this and made you and me ashamed ofexposing the boobs or the hardware and all.Take it with a stride , we are here on this site to enjoy life andshare love which is free, till date, yes make hay while the sunshines, look around and pick and choose the method , the manner andthe won you wish to enjoy your sex life with, only thing make sure youuse the

proper condoms or you may land up with aids. Don't forget tohave a good bath when you enter home if you went around with others,who you should not have touched, but go tempted by looking at all thestill available nude statues and poses and people on the street hereand there.Go to Denmark , its there in real life, Romania too, oh no God's owndarlings, all standing here and there with hardly any wear.So enjoythis site and write more words that can bring some joy, some fun, somelight air to easy the thick atmosphere and set us free once again dears.We are all keyed up and glued to the site , with heavy fists waitingto fly at each and every turn of event. Come on and relax a bit, itsafter all festive season once again.Diwali with a bang , bang hereand a bang ,bang there,here a bang , there a bang ,everywhere a bang,bang: Lighten up and enjoy the X'mas season round the bend.In Europethe streets are all light up for

the X'mas New Years, its now going tobeging November soon, start new topics and give some rest to these whoare down with BP, Sugar,Palpatation and more!!!! Heated topics suremake me dizzy too, the heat is still on in UAE.We can continue the hot topics during our UAE colder seasons please !!!Enjoy the weekend and be back with more lighter stuff ,God Bless.Barbara. , "anstosrinadhco"<anstosrinadhco wrote:>> Dear Sree Raam,> > Liked your mail, I wonder on the one hand you write so good on > spiritual leader's mission but on the other u gave free hand to > Srinad to abuse same classics which were read by those spiritual > leaders and quoted in their lives.> > Where and what is confusing you.> > My villege is only

150 KM's away from Khajurao, I know much much more > that any other person is supposed to know in internet community. I > didn't understand what interpretition they people are trying to make.> > Somebody wanted to build erotic termples, he built, erotic idols are > present outside of the temples. let it be there.> > Ok, if u want to understand and discuss, pls. discuss with an > attitude, why u will pass judgements like they are built to seduce > baudh monks.> > Suppose, i make an erotic idol, why only bauddha monk will get > seduccted ?> > Can u answer man, or any one in the group will answer ?> > waiting ..> > regards,> Lalit.> > > > , "Sre_eram" > <sreeram64@> wrote:>

>> > > > Dear Kaul,> > > > excellent posting, though many of your emails though do not go > into my> > little head, but this one is good. Agreed that every incaranation > has a> > specific purpose. Extending the same logic to the five paths - > Jnana,> > Japa, Raja, Bhakti & Karma yogas, the defined ones, many of the > current> > - TV popular "swamis" may NOT be the really realized ones, but > trying to> > do some good marketing for his lord ship....!! Like Moses did for > Jesus> > { approx. 700 yrs gap between them !!}. Swami Vivekanand did for > Sri> > Paramhansa Yogananda & Sri Aurobindo Ghosh...so on so forth> > > > Each sect of swamis appeals to a group of people - the above > mentioned> > 3-Indian gurus addressed to the scientific temper people. While >

Swami> > Prabhupada of ISKCON addressed to the emotional ones.....through his> > teachings...> > > > It is important to note that whenever darkness prevailed, the God> > appeared in some form to set things right. Similarly Lord Buddha> > incarnation came at a crucial time of history. Many people were > so> > influenced by Lord Buddhar or Lord Mahavira that, people left their> > homes to join him, leaving their families in doldrums. It created a> > social problem with many men have left, the task of doing daily > chores> > and running the families....etc.....there was a social imbalance in> > every aspect of it....... the kings of those days, found it tricky > to> > deal with the problem......so they worked out a plan to lure back > this> > "converted buddhists" through building temples in forest areas -

the> > most probable place for monks to be found - with some - pornographic> > images -....expecting some "converted family monks" would return to> > their homelands / families ....... { Example - Though much of> > ill-famed Hindu temples at Khajuraho - popular for sex images, than > for> > the word "temple" }.> > > > To conclude this, recall the mythology episode, wherein Lord > Parashuram> > comes charging at Yound Prince Ram for having broken the "Shiva > Dhanush"> > { Lord Shiva's gifted Bow - archery}, prompting the Young Prince > Ram> > saying that he the Lord Vishnu has now incarnated as Young Prince > Ram,> > and the avatar Lord Parashuram should now take retirement !! - > very> > nice instance of - Handing over and taking over of daily> > duties.......like in current office !!! - example of

protocols set > in> > those times itself.....> > > > with regards,> > > > sreeram srinivas> > > > > > , "Avtar Krishen > Kaul"> > <jyotirved@> wrote:> > > > Sushri Renuji,> > Namaskar!> > Excuse me for interjection! There is a sholka in the Gita 1> (0/41),> > readeing:> > "yad-yad vibhuti mat satvam shreemad oorjitam eva va> > tad-tad eva avgachha tvam mama tejoamsha sambhavam"> > > > "Whatsoever entity of outstanding essence, grandeur-ful or > possessed > > of high spirit, there be; each such know thou to be born from a > phase> > of My Radiant Potence" (Belvalkar's translation)> > > > As

such, you can say Budha was a divine incarnation! We must also> > remeber that every entity, including every divine incarnation, > has a> > specific purpose. Once that is completed/achieved/accomplished, > that> > particular avatar ceases to exercise that very influence unless > it> > is "shodasha-kala sampoorna> > avatar" like that of Krishna or even Rama!> > > > Budha had a particular mission. So had the Mahavira. It could be > that> > at that point of time, animal sacrifcies were taking place at an> > extraordinarily high rate. To counter that, "Avatars" like Budha> > and Mahavira were a must.> > > > I wonder whether you know that even Narsimha Avatar had to be > killed- > > --yes literally killed---by Bhagwan Shankara through his "Shalaba" > > Avatar, because Narasimha had tried to "exceed

his brief".> > > > In a sort of way, even Arjuna is an Avatar of Vishnu bcause > Krishna > > tells him specifically, "Pandavanam dhananjayah" -- I am Arjuna > among> > Pandavas!> > > > > > With regards,> > Avtar Krishen Kaul> >>

October 20, 2007

Dear Mr. Kaul, I am your old friend G.K.Goel, We were used to meet in Sagar Publication. I always wished and thought that you will change and mellowed down with time.. I find no change in you. YOU only demand from others and refuse to learn. you are always in angry mood, trying to impose your views on others. In the chapter on Vibhuties , Lord Krishna says, 'Among Pandavas , I am Arjuna. No where it is mentioned or even implied that Arjuna is God incarnate. He represents NARA . Regards, ayeshathyabali <ayeshathyabali wrote: Hi Dear,You are so right, yes, leave the erotic figures and all alone. Thosewho wish to be excited by the looks of these, well let them go aheadand excite themselves. After all in the days of old, no one live on jewels or troubles etc,.etc.,It was all love and fresh air indeed!!! I agree with you, you areso right in asking this question , yes, God said : Go forth Increaseand Multiply,hence, this was like open air teaching of increasing andmultiplying.Our ancestors hardly used any clothes at all, baring their breast thewomen flaunted their wares, and the men dangling their tools harldywore any under wear!!! So why bother about this now, the past is past,and civilization has changed all this and made you and me ashamed ofexposing the boobs or the hardware and all.Take it with a stride

, we are here on this site to enjoy life andshare love which is free, till date, yes make hay while the sunshines, look around and pick and choose the method , the manner andthe won you wish to enjoy your sex life with, only thing make sure youuse the proper condoms or you may land up with aids. Don't forget tohave a good bath when you enter home if you went around with others,who you should not have touched, but go tempted by looking at all thestill available nude statues and poses and people on the street hereand there.Go to Denmark , its there in real life, Romania too, oh no God's owndarlings, all standing here and there with hardly any wear.So enjoythis site and write more words that can bring some joy, some fun, somelight air to easy the thick atmosphere and set us free once again dears.We are all keyed up and glued to the site , with heavy fists waitingto fly at each and every turn of event. Come on and

relax a bit, itsafter all festive season once again.Diwali with a bang , bang hereand a bang ,bang there,here a bang , there a bang ,everywhere a bang,bang: Lighten up and enjoy the X'mas season round the bend.In Europethe streets are all light up for the X'mas New Years, its now going tobeging November soon, start new topics and give some rest to these whoare down with BP, Sugar,Palpatation and more!!!! Heated topics suremake me dizzy too, the heat is still on in UAE.We can continue the hot topics during our UAE colder seasons please !!!Enjoy the weekend and be back with more lighter stuff ,God Bless.Barbara. , "anstosrinadhco"<anstosrinadhco wrote:>> Dear Sree Raam,> > Liked your mail, I wonder on the one hand you write so good on >

spiritual leader's mission but on the other u gave free hand to > Srinad to abuse same classics which were read by those spiritual > leaders and quoted in their lives.> > Where and what is confusing you.> > My villege is only 150 KM's away from Khajurao, I know much much more > that any other person is supposed to know in internet community. I > didn't understand what interpretition they people are trying to make.> > Somebody wanted to build erotic termples, he built, erotic idols are > present outside of the temples. let it be there.> > Ok, if u want to understand and discuss, pls. discuss with an > attitude, why u will pass judgements like they are built to seduce > baudh monks.> > Suppose, i make an erotic idol, why only bauddha monk will get > seduccted ?> > Can u answer man, or any one in the group will answer ?> >

waiting ..> > regards,> Lalit.> > > > , "Sre_eram" > <sreeram64@> wrote:> >> > > > Dear Kaul,> > > > excellent posting, though many of your emails though do not go > into my> > little head, but this one is good. Agreed that every incaranation > has a> > specific purpose. Extending the same logic to the five paths - > Jnana,> > Japa, Raja, Bhakti & Karma yogas, the defined ones, many of the > current> > - TV popular "swamis" may NOT be the really realized ones, but > trying to> > do some good marketing for his lord ship....!! Like Moses did for > Jesus> > { approx. 700 yrs gap between them !!}. Swami Vivekanand did for >

Sri> > Paramhansa Yogananda & Sri Aurobindo Ghosh...so on so forth> > > > Each sect of swamis appeals to a group of people - the above > mentioned> > 3-Indian gurus addressed to the scientific temper people. While > Swami> > Prabhupada of ISKCON addressed to the emotional ones.....through his> > teachings...> > > > It is important to note that whenever darkness prevailed, the God> > appeared in some form to set things right. Similarly Lord Buddha> > incarnation came at a crucial time of history. Many people were > so> > influenced by Lord Buddhar or Lord Mahavira that, people left their> > homes to join him, leaving their families in doldrums. It created a> > social problem with many men have left, the task of doing daily > chores> > and running the families....etc.....there was a social imbalance

in> > every aspect of it....... the kings of those days, found it tricky > to> > deal with the problem......so they worked out a plan to lure back > this> > "converted buddhists" through building temples in forest areas - the> > most probable place for monks to be found - with some - pornographic> > images -....expecting some "converted family monks" would return to> > their homelands / families ....... { Example - Though much of> > ill-famed Hindu temples at Khajuraho - popular for sex images, than > for> > the word "temple" }.> > > > To conclude this, recall the mythology episode, wherein Lord > Parashuram> > comes charging at Yound Prince Ram for having broken the "Shiva > Dhanush"> > { Lord Shiva's gifted Bow - archery}, prompting the Young Prince > Ram> > saying that he the Lord Vishnu has now

incarnated as Young Prince > Ram,> > and the avatar Lord Parashuram should now take retirement !! - > very> > nice instance of - Handing over and taking over of daily> > duties.......like in current office !!! - example of protocols set > in> > those times itself.....> > > > with regards,> > > > sreeram srinivas> > > > > > , "Avtar Krishen > Kaul"> > <jyotirved@> wrote:> > > > Sushri Renuji,> > Namaskar!> > Excuse me for interjection! There is a sholka in the Gita 1> (0/41),> > readeing:> > "yad-yad vibhuti mat satvam shreemad oorjitam eva va> > tad-tad eva avgachha tvam mama tejoamsha sambhavam"> > >

> "Whatsoever entity of outstanding essence, grandeur-ful or > possessed > > of high spirit, there be; each such know thou to be born from a > phase> > of My Radiant Potence" (Belvalkar's translation)> > > > As such, you can say Budha was a divine incarnation! We must also> > remeber that every entity, including every divine incarnation, > has a> > specific purpose. Once that is completed/achieved/accomplished, > that> > particular avatar ceases to exercise that very influence unless > it> > is "shodasha-kala sampoorna> > avatar" like that of Krishna or even Rama!> > > > Budha had a particular mission. So had the Mahavira. It could be > that> > at that point of time, animal sacrifcies were taking place at an> > extraordinarily high rate. To counter that, "Avatars" like Budha> > and

Mahavira were a must.> > > > I wonder whether you know that even Narsimha Avatar had to be > killed- > > --yes literally killed---by Bhagwan Shankara through his "Shalaba" > > Avatar, because Narasimha had tried to "exceed his brief".> > > > In a sort of way, even Arjuna is an Avatar of Vishnu bcause > Krishna > > tells him specifically, "Pandavanam dhananjayah" -- I am Arjuna > among> > Pandavas!> > > > > > With regards,> > Avtar Krishen Kaul> >>G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA

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