Some thoughts

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Dear All,

As Barbara ji rightly mentioned - history is always a vexed question

- full truth never known and never will be. Here being an astrology

group we too should not be much interested in history - but on the

available knowledge. The book Ramayana and the possible related

literary history comes into consideration here - only because the

books contains some bits of astrological references. Otherwise what

relevance that text has in an astrology discussion forum?!

Spirituality and Religion are individual things - a lone path. If some

one want to attain enlightenment by following a group, bribing some

gods, or dipping in some water, by touching some stones, or by

providing a weekly prayer for compromise - he is not going to get it;

true consciousness is not a commodity that can be bought in the

market, or something we will get in return to some mechanical actions.

Spirituality

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No true individual in that path will boast of his trusts or methods

- he will never resort to fanatism, because he knows with in that

everything is one, the manifestation of the same. The people calling

from roof tops with different ids (E. Lalit - alias rpXrp,

astro_caro,anstrosirnadhco), Prabhat mishra and Jaswal exhibits

fanatic behavior, as if Hinduism is a commodity they own which they

allow others to use just out of compassion! They think that they only

know the history of India or that anything they cannot comprehend

should be STOPPED instantaneously!! Who these guys think they are!!

Everyone has to right to have their own opinions (opinions emerge out

of our experiences in this limited life - and is always limited by the

limitedness of our worldly being). They think they are saving the

religion(!) instead of destroying it!

True religion is something that flows from within - and it does not

have a name. Actually a truly spiritual individual can never be part

any ism or ity, (whether Muslim, Hindu, Christian or Buddhist or the

other thousand ones in the world) - he is unique and so be his

religion. Every true religion has only one creator, the man who is in

the path, and only one follower, he himself. Crowd does not have a

soul to attain salvation, only the individual has.

I bow to all those who know this truth - and grateful to them for

sharing the same feeling.

Knowledge and Information

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Knowledge or information is a different thing. To study or to

discuss it spirituality is not essential - even though the same could

be an added advantage. True spirituality helps the consciousness to

evolve and the same could be of much help anywhere - in dealing with

information in a better way as well.

History is not spirituality but knowledge - it is not something into

which weak sensitivity and fanatism should be brought into. It is some

thing to be approached in an objective manner. It is something to be

viewed from all possible directions - both positive and negative - and

arrive at a conclusion (which too cannot be complete).

The same is true about astrology as well. It is a subject that

should be approached objectively and systematically. You evolved

consciousness can definitely help - but it is better not to

contaminate the search after knowledge and information with

non-essential elements like weak sensitivity or fanatism.

To those 3 who where yelling from roof tops from the past 2 days

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If the castle is strong enough - why you fear?! If the structure

withstood the great waves of thousands of years - why do you fools

think that if you don't support it will fall down, like a domestic

fowl who may believe that if he didn't cry the sun will not rise?!!

Every time there is a point at which we should say - enough is

enough! The same here as well. Mere 3 people Lalit, Prabhat and Jaswal

making all these noise - and do you think that all the other 1000+ is

keeping quite because they agree with you?! Shame on you! They don't

want to dirty their hands with the nasty mud you pour and so the

silence; they have much better and worthy things to do - so the

silence. But alas, you don't even have the sensitivity to understand

that! Pumping 10 mails each to a 1000+ members without content and do

you think that you are helping them - do you think that they are

present in this group just to delete the junk mails you sent to them?

Shut up and get out! Make noise anywhere you want but not here! Enough

is enough!

At least try to learn something from Kaul ji, look at his mails,

even though totally against the path this group follow, his mails are

stuffed with valid information - in support of or against. When you

argue, argue with content. We got other jobs as well - no body is

waiting here to answer you 24x7 - don't expect that all these mockery

will help. If some one posted something and if he was unable to check

the mails for 2 days - some one pushing the same mails to a thousand

users 10 times within 5 minutes!! It is not only absurd and madness

but a crime! So the statement - Enough is enough! If you want to pour

out the rain of mails without content create a group and do it there -

exercise, practice, and one day you may learn to cross the world

record by posting a crore message within 5 minutes..

Yes, you won in making this unmoderated group a moderated one -

through your junk posts and spams. But note this - this is the same

you will cause to the great ideas you act as if is your father's

property! It is stupid people like you - who caused the current state

of India and Hindu Religion. In an Upanishad you will see an example

describing some dogs going around sacrificial fire chanting Ohm Ohm

Ohm - without knowing its meaning or essence. Yes, it is not from some

Christian or Muslim book - it is from the revered Upanishads which

share their blissful beuty with us. It is the people like - the sages

might have been describing. No wonder - I agree - your tribe was

present then too!!

Ok. Enough of shit and bull shit - I am tired of talking. I don't

want to waste my time for you three and so I won't be responding to

your mails - other paths and understanding differ. There is more than

a 1000 members in this group - who are more interested in astrology

and mails with informative content. The group and posts are for them -

and not to waste after fanatics without proper understanding.

Christian Plan

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To some stupid ones this group is the result of some Christian plan

and funded by someone. Yes, it is. This group is moderated by 7

Christians such as -

1) Sreeram Srinivas (now in Indonesia)

2) Sreenadh (Delhi)

3) Vinita (Kashmir)

4) Renu (Srilanka)

5) Sunil Nair (Delhi)

6) Madhu (Trivandrum, Kerala)

7) RK (Delhi)

Of course we may include more good Christians into this moderators

group. By the way there are so many good Christians in this group. For

example good Christians you can see in this group are Ernst ji,

Barbara ji, Pradeep ji, Fin ji, Ash ji and so on are all good

Christians who share their knowledge with us. Oh! I forgot to say one

thing - throughout this section on you can change the word 'Christian'

with Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Jain, Buddhist or Jew - that does not make a

difference. But don't take too much strain - your diseased fanatic

brains may fail to take such a load may crash down - making you to

land permanently in the asylum.

As you could see the main point is the 'Plan'. So let me state it

clearly with clarity - " This group has a clear Plan - and that is - to

Organize and present ancient indian astrology in a systematic manner " .

Yah, I know this is not going to be helpful to you - but of course it

would be for the other members who are here to teach, learn or discuss

with sincerity.

Thanks,

Sreenadh