Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Dear Sir, If Time is an illusion, then shouldnt astrolgy which is based on time be also an illusion? ) Time = breath. Then, by the rule of induction, All organisms that breath are illusions, so we all human beings and animals are illusions. Plants also breath, so they are also illusions. Now what is not an illusion??? May be only the inanimate things, rocks, stones are not illusions??. Oh No, how do we see the rocks and other inanimate things in this world? Because we breathe, thereby we exist and thereby we see. So as long as we are illusions all that our senses create are also illusions and the inanimate things are the creation of our senses (imagine a world of all blind, for them there wont be any rocks or flowers)are also illusions. Final output: Everything is an illusion!! May be thats why Lord Krishna said " Everything is a Maya " )) Regards, Jyothi , " chandra_hari18 " <chandra_hari18 wrote: > > > Dear Sreenadh, > > I think your observation is not correct. Karma theory is fundamental to > astrology. What is time? Time is an illusion. How time operates? Time is > constituted of the 5 tattvas and bhutas in successive micro and macro > levels (terminology is difficult to mind) and the Bhuta -ghatana imparts > special qualities for moments which reflect destiny. Karma is the factor > that decides Bhuta-ghatana and Karma catches up with the individual > through breath which has a specific bhuta or tattva pattern. > > Because of the above reason, first breath or cry is the true birth time. > First cry is the siren of Karma- Prarabdham for which horoscope is made. > > chandra hari , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Jagdish ji and Srinivas ji, > > Being an astrology group, I have a simple question - Is there ANY > > Rishi hora slokas (astrological quotes) that supports Karma theory > > before the laghu jataka (attributed to Mihira) which > > reads 'Edupachitam anya janmani ..... " etc. The point I want to > > emphasize is there is NO Rishi Hora sloka that support Karma theory > > available! > > As per astrology - time is the cause behind; As per Vedanta it is > > Karma theory; As per Ayurveda it is the innate nature; as per Sankhya > > it is Purusha - and so on. The various knowledge branches had there > > own philosophical approach (and astrology has its own unique > > philosophical approach for sure) - and the mixing of adopted theories > > such as Karma theory into astrology is NOT in tune with the vision of > > the sages who wrote Horas on astrology - this is my opinion. > > Note: If we want to follow Rishi horas we may have to drop Karma > > theory. > > Love and regards, > > Sreenadh > > > > , Prathamesn Chawan > > upaoakcrest@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Srinivas Ji > > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > > > > Lord Krishna had fatal attacks on his life. Krishna was a lord > > itself. What karma he did in his last life (which is not there) so > > that he got such a dangerous childhood ? > > > > > > What karma Jesus did ? He suffered a lot. > > > > > > Well, who made this karma or came up with this concept of Karma ? > > What was his desire ? If its God, then what does he want from human > > being ? > > > > > > Even if we believe that Karma theory ( supported by Gita) is true > > then it means that we are slave of a rule. Who made us slave of the > > rule ? > > > > > > There are many more question in my mind to ask you. Well, i am > > asking because of my planetary positions (19:13, Ghaziabad - UP, 25- > > August-1981). > > > > > > I think a lot on all these questions and try to justify or > > counter-argue with myself on these question. But never got a > > satisfied reason. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Jagdish > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote: Dear Srinivas ji, > > > ==> > > > > karma burning .... > > > <== > > > I wonder - is it some thing like Firewood?! :=) > > > Love and hugs, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , " sreeram srinivas " > > > <sreeram64@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chawan saab, > > > > > > > > I respect your views and hence the pleasure of disagreeing with > > > > you....!!....Going by your logics, one can put lot of excuses to > > one's > > > > Boss in office....!!! and stand a sure chance of losing the > > job....!!! > > > > > > > > Well not everything is destiny.....for ordinary mortals - yes who > > are > > > > resigned to fate, for those with a thinking mind....it is not > > so.....!! > > > > > > > > Everything is cause and reaction......and upholding of > > dharma....!! In > > > > mahabharat...Lord Krishna instructs Arjun... - you duty is to > > shoot > > > > arrows......to ensure that the arrows hit the enemy is my > > job..... to > > > > upload dharma in daily life is one's prerogative......the > > examples you > > > > have are in principle are bad {using a milder word !!}....to stop > > the > > > > karmic cycle....by perpetuating the reaction is where the real > > karma or > > > > dharma lies.... > > > > > > > > Kindly read the hindu scriptures in english language shall > > provide the > > > > weblinks on it tomorrow...the karmic law cannot be overruled even > > by > > > > great saints....it has to be satisfied.....prayers & guru's help > > in > > > > overcoming it...or advanced yogis, transfer the karma on to > > themselves > > > > through yogic methods to protect their disciples......does Jesus > > really > > > > deserve the type of crucification death...??? for his simple > > > > preachings....surely NOT > > > > > > > > Normally the karma burning is very slow for ordinary people...but > > people > > > > who are already on dharma....it burns must faster...hurdles are > > > > more....you are repaying your debts of next life now > > itself.....!! see > > > > my karma accounting theories in the archives..... > > > > > > > > ....got to for dinner...getting late...will continue > > tomorrow.....on > > > > this....consider this as part-1 > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > sreeram srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prathamesn Chawan > > > > <upaoakcrest@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I feel more sorry if someone proves that astrology is 100% true. I > > > > havent got the answer of this question so far. If astrology is > > 100% true > > > > then an able astrologer can predict everything about your future. > > If > > > > that happens then there is nothing good or bad or evil. > > > > > > > > A rapist is as good as a the victim. Rapist was supposed to rape > > > > according to planetary conditions in his chart and victim was > > supposed > > > > to be victim according to her chart. It means Harshad Mehta, > > > > Daud-Abrahim, Chotta Shakil and all the people from underworld or > > > > indulge in illegal activities are not bad. They are acting as > > they are > > > > destined. > > > > > > > > A husband who beats his wife daily is not a bad person. Wife was > > > > destined to suffer and husband was supposed to be the aggresive > > and > > > > voilent ? > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me how much is in human hand and how much is in > > the hand > > > > of destiny ? After reading many books of K. N. Rao, i feel that > > its all > > > > destiny. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Jagdish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make your > > homepage. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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