Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Dear Friends,HILLARY Clinton has taken a huge step towards staying alive in the US presidential race with crucial primary wins in Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island on what has been dubbed " Super Tuesday II " . But lots of drama is still left regarding the democratic candidate election. The US is on the threshold of a new dawn and may be the feat of a new history. If the democrats win, they will produce either the first ever 'lady' president' or the first ever 'black' president in the history of the USA. Obama's is being portrayed as the candidate for change — youthful and charismatic while Clinton is an accomplished senator, master political tactician and invaluable asset to the party. The biggest difference between the two appears to be 'judgment versus experience'. If there are no differences between Obama and Clinton on significant issues, would the Obama-Clinton contest largely be determined by intangibles: image, charisma, and personality? Sometime back we had an interesting astro-discussion on the prospects of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama for winning the US Presidential Elections.Since the issue will be ablaze for quite a while, I thought we could revisit our findings. I have collated the observations made by the members in a word file...attached alongwithregardsneelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Hello Friends, If it is primeries, I can understand the exercise. If we are talking of Who will be next president, then we are counting chickens before they are hatched. We can, atleast I , will wait till it is a contest between two candidates. Tatvam-Asi , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > HILLARY Clinton has taken a huge step towards staying alive in the US > presidential race with crucial primary wins in Ohio, Texas and Rhode > Islandon what has been dubbed " Super Tuesday II " . But lots > of drama is still left regarding the democratic candidate election. > > The US is on the threshold of a new dawn and may be the feat of a new > history. If the democrats win, they will produce either the first ever > 'lady' president' or the first ever 'black' president in the history of the > USA. > > Obama's is being portrayed as the candidate for change — youthful and > charismatic while Clinton is an accomplished senator, master political > tactician and invaluable asset to the party. The biggest difference between > the two appears to be 'judgment versus experience'. > > If there are no differences between Obama and Clinton on significant issues, > would the Obama-Clinton contest largely be determined by intangibles: image, > charisma, and personality? > Sometime back we had an interesting astro-discussion on the prospects of > Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama for winning the US Presidential Elections. > Since the issue will be ablaze for quite a while, I thought we could revisit > our findings. > I have collated the observations made by the members in a word > file...attached alongwith > regards > neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Namaste Mr. Name_Is_Ego ji, There is good amount of clarity that whoever amongst the democrats nominee, is going to win the Presidential election, for Republican party policies have brought the great liberal economy of USA to recession through its ill-conceived foreign policies including attacking Iraq, which primarily spinned off its own economy and the world in general. So a Republican party candidate is more likely to get negative votes, for with what face would they approach the USA electorate ?? with their economy staring at them.... Democrats are having a some suggested alternatives / ideas, which the intelligent USA electorate surely would have something to " hope " upon. So far, neither the Republican Party likely nominee Mc Cain an oldie and Obama had a cosy walk with media......so untested. Just my personal opinion. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , " nameisego " <nameisego wrote: Hello Friends, If it is primeries, I can understand the exercise. If we are talking of Who will be next president, then we are counting chickens before they are hatched. We can, atleast I , will wait till it is a contest between two candidates. Tatvam-Asi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Dear Neelam ji, I have not looked at Obama's chart in detail as I still am still not sure what is the birth time. However, I feel 8am birth chart of Hillary is the correct one. If you take that one, she is currently going through Ven-Sat period. There is one interesting combination! Look at it from lagna it is the period of LL-YK and from Moon it is the period of LL-YK too! LL - Lagna lord, YK - Yogakraka From Lagna, her sixth house is empty, where as from Moon the sixth house has deb. Mars and Sat - a deadly combo! No dobut she facing tough opposition from obama. However, I feel LL-YK combo would bail her out. Regards, Krishnaneelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: Dear Friends,HILLARY Clinton has taken a huge step towards staying alive in the US presidential race with crucial primary wins in Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island on what has been dubbed "Super Tuesday II". But lots of drama is still left regarding the democratic candidate election. The US is on the threshold of a new dawn and may be the feat of a new history. If the democrats win, they will produce either the first ever 'lady' president' or the first ever 'black' president in the history of the USA. Obama's is being portrayed as the candidate for change — youthful and charismatic while Clinton is an accomplished senator, master political tactician and invaluable asset to the party. The biggest difference between the two appears to be 'judgment versus experience'. If there are no differences between Obama and Clinton on significant issues, would the Obama-Clinton contest largely be determined by intangibles: image, charisma, and personality? Sometime back we had an interesting astro-discussion on the prospects of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama for winning the US Presidential Elections.Since the issue will be ablaze for quite a while, I thought we could revisit our findings. I have collated the observations made by the members in a word file...attached alongwithregardsneelam Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Dear Sreeramji, My past experience about elections dicatates that it is the final contestants who should be evaluated. Tatvam-Asi , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Namaste Mr. Name_Is_Ego ji, > > There is good amount of clarity that whoever amongst the democrats > nominee, is going to win the Presidential election, for Republican party > policies have brought the great liberal economy of USA to recession > through its ill-conceived foreign policies including attacking Iraq, > which primarily spinned off its own economy and the world in general. > > So a Republican party candidate is more likely to get negative votes, > for with what face would they approach the USA electorate ?? with their > economy staring at them.... > > Democrats are having a some suggested alternatives / ideas, which the > intelligent USA electorate surely would have something to " hope " upon. > > So far, neither the Republican Party likely nominee Mc Cain an oldie > and Obama had a cosy walk with media......so untested. > > Just my personal opinion. > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > , " nameisego " > <nameisego@> wrote: > > Hello Friends, > > If it is primeries, I can understand the exercise. If we are talking of > Who will be next president, then we are counting chickens before they > are hatched. > > We can, atleast I , will wait till it is a contest between two > candidates. > > Tatvam-Asi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear neelam ji , Thanks for showing interest in this debate Do u know how to see hindu new year chart for US .I think it can reaveal a lot >or atleast we can discuss it .We r not worried abt our predictions coming true or going ashtray ,but sharpening our astro tools . Both of their charts are still to be confirmed . we r using other sources ,so i think this new year charts can show gr8 deal abt coming events in US let us try ?? if u r familiar with new year charts and concepts .or if u read any articles we can depend on it and giv a try .Just an intellectual exercise . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Friends,> > HILLARY Clinton has taken a huge step towards staying alive in the US> presidential race with crucial primary wins in Ohio, Texas and Rhode> Islandon what has been dubbed "Super Tuesday II". But lots> of drama is still left regarding the democratic candidate election.> > The US is on the threshold of a new dawn and may be the feat of a new> history. If the democrats win, they will produce either the first ever> 'lady' president' or the first ever 'black' president in the history of the> USA.> > Obama's is being portrayed as the candidate for change — youthful and> charismatic while Clinton is an accomplished senator, master political> tactician and invaluable asset to the party. The biggest difference between> the two appears to be 'judgment versus experience'.> > If there are no differences between Obama and Clinton on significant issues,> would the Obama-Clinton contest largely be determined by intangibles: image,> charisma, and personality?> Sometime back we had an interesting astro-discussion on the prospects of> Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama for winning the US Presidential Elections.> Since the issue will be ablaze for quite a while, I thought we could revisit> our findings.> I have collated the observations made by the members in a word> file...attached alongwith> regards> neelam> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Dear Neelam ji, That was good work! I have uploaded the file in the files section of the group for the benefit of all and for future reference. The URL is: Group%20Wisdom/Obama%20vs%20Hillary.doc Love and regards,Sreenadh , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:Dear Friends,HILLARY Clinton has taken a huge step towards staying alive in the US presidential race with crucial primary wins in Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island on what has been dubbed "Super Tuesday II". But lots of drama is still left regarding the democratic candidate election. The US is on the threshold of a new dawn and may be the feat of a new history. If the democrats win, they will produce either the first ever 'lady' president' or the first ever 'black' president in the history of the USA. Obama's is being portrayed as the candidate for change — youthful and charismatic while Clinton is an accomplished senator, master political tactician and invaluable asset to the party. The biggest difference between the two appears to be 'judgment versus experience'. If there are no differences between Obama and Clinton on significant issues, would the Obama-Clinton contest largely be determined by intangibles: image, charisma, and personality? Sometime back we had an interesting astro-discussion on the prospects of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama for winning the US Presidential Elections.Since the issue will be ablaze for quite a while, I thought we could revisit our findings. I have collated the observations made by the members in a word file...attached alongwithregardsneelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Neelamji and Others, Namaskar, Thanks for compiling shots of few at Hillary V/S Obama contest. I too found place in urs mentions. Howver, my narayn dasa analysis never pointedly said OBAMA may win but I said that he is passing through very good period. However,his period of gain ends on 21/2/2008. from 21/2/2008 to 12/5/2008, he will be getting mediocre results. If till 12/5/2008, he can hold fort, he has greater chance of suceeding. But if during above period, Hillary scores heavily and ruin him, that will be it. I am reprducing my analysis from that thread: " " After this, he is going to experience Ra influence, which begins from 21/2/2008 to January 2009. Ra is lord of 5th house, which will help him to an extent, but unfortunately, initial period from 21/2/2008 to 12/5/2008, Ra will be giving mediocre results. Hence, his period of gain ends wef 21/2/2008, hence he is gaining right now. After this he is going to gain, but I think by that time things would have been decided. " " Thanks and regards, sanjeev Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Namaste Mr. Name_is_Ego ji, I agree to your view point, the sheer charm of electing either the First Woman or Black President, in the SO called = "Liberty" country, standing for "Freedom of expression, Human Values & Greatest Democracy".....till date have never given any chance to their " The great American Blacks" { for all other blacks are lesser mortals !!} nor upheld or nominated any "Great American Women" for higher posts.....without any "Chest Beating or Burning" makes this election interesting. Nowadays, the Western Countries are busy in counting the young, middle & oldage population studies..etc., find the" blacks & young" category are more in numbers than any other......so plausible to rush into predictions. The Republican Party nominee now confirmed Mc Cain is an oldie 71 yrs old and bitter rival of my favorite George W. Bush, is somebody people would love to forget for various reasons {republic party created this Oil Barrel US $ 101 cost, economy failure, raising inflation, ...}. The great American democracy is yet to prove to the world that it is indeed democractic country. The charisma of Obama & fight-back "girl" Hillary Clinton, is a testimony that Mc Cain nomination is mostly reported or read ..."in sidelines"..... Feel American Media was favoring Obama more than Hillary Clinton { Americans detest Woman President presiding over their country......a personal thinking of my American friends in private }. Most of the creative musicians happens to be Blacks in comparision to Whites with in The Great American borders. You have a point....to wait for final nominees...... { Being an outsider, it is easy for me to frame opinions based on the "masala" american news, however, it is upto the American Citizens to decide based on their views & moods} All the above has NO astrology in it, however, the astrologer should be aware of the society around him.... With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , "nameisego" <nameisego wrote: Dear Sreeramji, My past experience about elections dicatates that it is the final contestants who should be evaluated. Tatvam-Asi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Dear members, Continuing my earlier mails, delving into predictions without waiting for final nominee names being announced as advised by Mr. Name_Is_Ego ji,.....the hororscopes of both democrat nominee contenders are strong, can indicate some surprise spin later with each one sharing / trading " President / Vice President " posts....for it is need irrespective of who wins the final democrat nomination. Some internet media reports suggest this.... In this current of world economics, CIA surely do not want Mr. Obama for various reasons ..... for USA would look for an experienced candidate to fight raising China. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Namaste All, SHE OR HE ? HILLARY OR OBAMA ? Please check this below link http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?category_id=1 & article_id=147 The travel has been very informative. Thanks to Neelam Ji. Namashivaya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Dear Mr. Sudhir Menon ji, The weblink to Col Gour's article is excellent ....... appreciate if you also throw some astro_light on this with your own knowledgebase..... or whom you would be placing your bets....purely astrology....NO politics..... With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Before seeing Obama's chart, I had the feeling that Hillary is set to win under the grace of her Sun. Obama's chart [Mr. Obama, 4-Aug-1961, 13:06 hrs, Honolulu] is stronger and he is likely to outsmart Hillary after 26 May 2008. Obama will win with his oratory if the chart is correct i.e. Mercury in 10th in Cancer. Obama's 10th harmonic chart has Mars as Lagna lord who is in the royal sign Leo and favors rice to the topmost position. Guru_Venus from 07.04.2006 to Dec 2008 is a lucky period for him. Only negative factor in his chart is Rahu joining Mars - his Presidency will be affected by disgrace, Rahu is in navamsa_Lagna too. Mars bhukti after 26. 01.2011 and the Rahu chidram 14.02.2011 to 06 April 20011 may cause allegations which may affect his career. chandra hari , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote:>> > Dear members,> > Continuing my earlier mails, delving into predictions without waiting> for final nominee names being announced as advised by Mr. Name_Is_Ego> ji,.....the hororscopes of both democrat nominee contenders are strong, > can indicate some surprise spin later with each one sharing / trading> "President / Vice President" posts....for it is need irrespective of who> wins the final democrat nomination. Some internet media reports> suggest this....> > In this current of world economics, CIA surely do not want Mr. Obama> for various reasons ..... for USA would look for an experienced> candidate to fight raising China.> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Namaste Chandra_Hari18 ji, Good point, I feel the intelligent American electrorate should be noting this prediction of yours and instead vote & elect Ms Hillary Clinton who has nursed her secret ambition for many years and stood Republican attack for 16+ yrs { she often mentions it...trust it is deadlier than Israeli's missiles} and has White House Experience as a former first lady. Further, the American can hope to get experience of her husband Mr. Bill Clinton, vote -1, get 2 ..... must be appealing to business savvy Americans,....to prove that they are truly democractic country. Mr. Sunil Nair has said earlier, that the principle of " Desh, Kaal, Patra " is against Mr. Obama being Black, can stand against him, in elections in the country of Liberty & Freedom i.e . America. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , " chandra_hari18 " <chandra_hari18 wrote: > > > Before seeing Obama's chart, I had the feeling that Hillary is set to > win under the grace of her Sun. Obama's chart [Mr. Obama, 4-Aug-1961, > 13:06 hrs, Honolulu] is stronger and he is likely to outsmart Hillary > after 26 May 2008. Obama will win with his oratory if the chart is > correct i.e. Mercury in 10th in Cancer. > > Obama's 10th harmonic chart has Mars as Lagna lord who is in the royal > sign Leo and favors rice to the topmost position. > > Guru_Venus from 07.04.2006 to Dec 2008 is a lucky period for him. Only > negative factor in his chart is Rahu joining Mars - his Presidency will > be affected by disgrace, Rahu is in navamsa_Lagna too. Mars bhukti > after 26. 01.2011 and the Rahu chidram 14.02.2011 to 06 April 20011 may > cause allegations which may affect his career. > > chandra hari > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Dear Friends,Well said by Sreeramji,...Ms Hillary Clinton who has nursed her secret ambition for many years....look at 7L jupiter with ketu in 6H in scorpio. A combination that shows secret endeavours of husband and secret endurings of wife.... regardsneelam On 07/03/2008, sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: Namaste Chandra_Hari18 ji, Good point, I feel the intelligent American electrorate should be noting this prediction of yours and instead vote & elect Ms Hillary Clinton who has nursed her secret ambition for many years and stood Republican attack for 16+ yrs { she often mentions it...trust it is deadlier than Israeli's missiles} and has White House Experience as a former first lady. Further, the American can hope to get experience of her husband Mr. Bill Clinton, vote -1, get 2 ..... must be appealing to business savvy Americans,....to prove that they are truly democractic country. Mr. Sunil Nair has said earlier, that the principle of " Desh, Kaal, Patra " is against Mr. Obama being Black, can stand against him, in elections in the country of Liberty & Freedom i.e . America. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , " chandra_hari18 " <chandra_hari18 wrote: > > > Before seeing Obama's chart, I had the feeling that Hillary is set to > win under the grace of her Sun. Obama's chart [Mr. Obama, 4-Aug-1961, > 13:06 hrs, Honolulu] is stronger and he is likely to outsmart Hillary > after 26 May 2008. Obama will win with his oratory if the chart is > correct i.e. Mercury in 10th in Cancer. > > Obama's 10th harmonic chart has Mars as Lagna lord who is in the royal > sign Leo and favors rice to the topmost position. > > Guru_Venus from 07.04.2006 to Dec 2008 is a lucky period for him. Only > negative factor in his chart is Rahu joining Mars - his Presidency will > be affected by disgrace, Rahu is in navamsa_Lagna too. Mars bhukti > after 26. 01.2011 and the Rahu chidram 14.02.2011 to 06 April 20011 may > cause allegations which may affect his career. > > chandra hari > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Namaste All, Please check this link http://www.ganeshaspeaks.com/blog_The_Prospect_for_US_Elections_2008_Barack_Obama_vs_Hillary_Clinton_828.jsp Namashivaya neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: Dear Friends,Well said by Sreeramji,...Ms Hillary Clinton who has nursed her secret ambition for many years....look at 7L jupiter with ketu in 6H in scorpio. A combination that shows secret endeavours of husband and secret endurings of wife....regardsneelam On 07/03/2008, sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 (AT) sify (DOT) com> wrote: Namaste Chandra_Hari18 ji,Good point, I feel the intelligent American electrorate should benoting this prediction of yours and instead vote & elect Ms HillaryClinton who has nursed her secret ambition for many years and stoodRepublican attack for 16+ yrs { she often mentions it...trust it isdeadlier than Israeli's missiles} and has White House Experience as aformer first lady. Further, the American can hope to get experience ofher husband Mr. Bill Clinton, vote -1, get 2 ..... must be appealing tobusiness savvy Americans,....to prove that they are truly democracticcountry.Mr. Sunil Nair has said earlier, that the principle of "Desh, Kaal,Patra" is against Mr. Obama being Black, can stand against him, inelections in the country of Liberty & Freedom i.e . America.With regards,Sreeram_Srinivas , "chandra_hari18"<chandra_hari18 wrote:>>> Before seeing Obama's chart, I had the feeling that Hillary is set to> win under the grace of her Sun. Obama's chart [Mr. Obama, 4-Aug-1961,> 13:06 hrs, Honolulu] is stronger and he is likely to outsmart Hillary> after 26 May 2008. Obama will win with his oratory if the chart is> correct i.e. Mercury in 10th in Cancer.>> Obama's 10th harmonic chart has Mars as Lagna lord who is in the royal> sign Leo and favors rice to the topmost position.>> Guru_Venus from 07.04.2006 to Dec 2008 is a lucky period for him. Only> negative factor in his chart is Rahu joining Mars - his Presidencywill> be affected by disgrace, Rahu is in navamsa_Lagna too. Mars bhukti> after 26. 01.2011 and the Rahu chidram 14.02.2011 to 06 April 20011may> cause allegations which may affect his career.>> chandra hari> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Had a look at the web page discussing Obama and Hillari contest. To the best of my knowledge, Hillary cannot be born in Libra having Budha and Ravi. Ravi in Libra Lagna should give noticeable eye defect and Budha should have given a bilious disposition to her body. Both these features are missing in photographs I have seen. I did see some birth details and data which give Gemini Lagna for Hillary. Her stature as a legal luminary is well explained by Gemini Lagna. Now in the dasa of debiliated Sun, she is in a contest with Obama having a stronger chart. How sun will favor her given the fact that she is an ex-queen (First Lady) and thus placed higher in respect of Kula. 3 months 18 days of sun/sun will be over on 26 April or so and her fate will be decided by moon bhukti. Obama is in an advantageous position as Guru and Venus are favorable to him. Asura_Guru can make him win the contest. Claims of experience are all nonsense. Genius does not need on the job experience. If Obama has the destiny and intelligence, he may handle things better. Old wine in new bottle may not be better. chandra hari , Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon wrote: > > Namaste All, > > Please check this link > > http://www.ganeshaspeaks.com/blog_The_Prospect_for_US_Elections_2008_Bar\ ack_Obama_vs_Hillary_Clinton_828.jsp > > Namashivaya > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07 wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Well said by Sreeramji, > ...Ms Hillary Clinton who has nursed her secret ambition for many years.... > > look at 7L jupiter with ketu in 6H in scorpio. A combination that shows secret endeavours of husband and secret endurings of wife.... > > regards > neelam > > On 07/03/2008, sreeram srinivas sreeram64 wrote: > Namaste Chandra_Hari18 ji, > > Good point, I feel the intelligent American electrorate should be > noting this prediction of yours and instead vote & elect Ms Hillary > Clinton who has nursed her secret ambition for many years and stood > Republican attack for 16+ yrs { she often mentions it...trust it is > deadlier than Israeli's missiles} and has White House Experience as a > former first lady. Further, the American can hope to get experience of > her husband Mr. Bill Clinton, vote -1, get 2 ..... must be appealing to > business savvy Americans,....to prove that they are truly democractic > country. > > Mr. Sunil Nair has said earlier, that the principle of " Desh, Kaal, > Patra " is against Mr. Obama being Black, can stand against him, in > elections in the country of Liberty & Freedom i.e . America. > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > , " chandra_hari18 " > chandra_hari18@ wrote: > > > > > > Before seeing Obama's chart, I had the feeling that Hillary is set to > > win under the grace of her Sun. Obama's chart [Mr. Obama, 4-Aug-1961, > > 13:06 hrs, Honolulu] is stronger and he is likely to outsmart Hillary > > after 26 May 2008. Obama will win with his oratory if the chart is > > correct i.e. Mercury in 10th in Cancer. > > > > Obama's 10th harmonic chart has Mars as Lagna lord who is in the royal > > sign Leo and favors rice to the topmost position. > > > > Guru_Venus from 07.04.2006 to Dec 2008 is a lucky period for him. Only > > negative factor in his chart is Rahu joining Mars - his Presidency > will > > be affected by disgrace, Rahu is in navamsa_Lagna too. Mars bhukti > > after 26. 01.2011 and the Rahu chidram 14.02.2011 to 06 April 20011 > may > > cause allegations which may affect his career. > > > > chandra hari > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 I read some of the postings of Obama Vs. Hillary thread in which there is Saturn/Sun combination or opposition in Obama's chart. Due to which something, ( reversal, assasination atempt, serious illness) was to have happened in the current phase ending March. His reversals in the past few days are a part of this process. Obama is " underdog " in terms of Race and experience. Hillary also is a first (gender) for US but she is an insider. US economy has undergone such drastic changes due to the outsourcing of industry and services that even a weak $ will take time to ressurect low end industry. Inflation will hit the poor and they will vote for one of their own. Unless Obama messes up bigtime, Hillary is facing a losing battle. I do not know if astrology bears out this observation. --- On Sat, 8/3/08, chandra_hari18 <chandra_hari18 wrote: chandra_hari18 <chandra_hari18 Re: Who wins the race - Hillary or Obama Date: Saturday, 8 March, 2008, 8:37 AM Had a look at the web page discussing Obama and Hillari contest. To thebest of my knowledge, Hillary cannot be born in Libra having Budha andRavi. Ravi in Libra Lagna should give noticeable eye defect and Budhashould have given a bilious disposition to her body. Both these featuresare missing in photographs I have seen. I did see some birth details anddata which give Gemini Lagna for Hillary. Her stature as a legalluminary is well explained by Gemini Lagna. Now in the dasa ofdebiliated Sun, she is in a contest with Obama having a stronger chart.How sun will favor her given the fact that she is an ex-queen (FirstLady) and thus placed higher in respect of Kula. 3 months 18 days ofsun/sun will be over on 26 April or so and her fate will be decided bymoon bhukti.Obama is in an advantageous position as Guru and Venus are favorable tohim. Asura_Guru can make him win the contest.Claims of experience are all nonsense. Genius does not need on the jobexperience.. If Obama has the destiny and intelligence, he may handlethings better.. Old wine in new bottle may not be better.chandra hariancient_indian_ astrology, Sudhir Menon<sudhirmenon@ ...> wrote:>> Namaste All,>> Please check this link>>http://www.ganeshas peaks.com/ blog_The_ Prospect_ for_US_Elections _2008_Bar\ack_Obama_vs_ Hillary_Clinton_ 828.jsp>> Namashivaya>>> neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... wrote:> Dear Friends,>> Well said by Sreeramji,> ...Ms Hillary Clinton who has nursed her secret ambition for manyyears....>> look at 7L jupiter with ketu in 6H in scorpio. A combination thatshows secret endeavours of husband and secret endurings of wife....>> regards> neelam>> On 07/03/2008, sreeram srinivas sreeram64@.. . wrote:> Namaste Chandra_Hari18 ji,>> Good point, I feel the intelligent American electrorate should be> noting this prediction of yours and instead vote & elect Ms Hillary> Clinton who has nursed her secret ambition for many years and stood> Republican attack for 16+ yrs { she often mentions it...trust it is> deadlier than Israeli's missiles} and has White House Experience as a> former first lady. Further, the American can hope to get experience of> her husband Mr. Bill Clinton, vote -1, get 2 ..... must be appealingto> business savvy Americans,.. ..to prove that they are truly democractic> country.>> Mr. Sunil Nair has said earlier, that the principle of "Desh, Kaal,> Patra" is against Mr. Obama being Black, can stand against him, in> elections in the country of Liberty & Freedom i.e . America.>> With regards,>> Sreeram_Srinivas>> ancient_indian_ astrology, "chandra_hari18"> chandra_hari18@ wrote:> >> >> > Before seeing Obama's chart, I had the feeling that Hillary is setto> > win under the grace of her Sun. Obama's chart [Mr. Obama,4-Aug-1961,> > 13:06 hrs, Honolulu] is stronger and he is likely to outsmartHillary> > after 26 May 2008. Obama will win with his oratory if the chart is> > correct i.e. Mercury in 10th in Cancer.> >> > Obama's 10th harmonic chart has Mars as Lagna lord who is in theroyal> > sign Leo and favors rice to the topmost position.> >> > Guru_Venus from 07.04.2006 to Dec 2008 is a lucky period for him.Only> > negative factor in his chart is Rahu joining Mars - his Presidency> will> > be affected by disgrace, Rahu is in navamsa_Lagna too. Mars bhukti> > after 26.. 01.2011 and the Rahu chidram 14.02.2011 to 06 April 20011> may> > cause allegations which may affect his career.> >> > chandra hari> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------- ---> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Tryit now.> Share files, take polls, and discuss your passions - all under one roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Dear Members, A collection of messages from this group arhives where the predictions have astray.............. making us to go back and analyse again.... and to gain from that experience........ With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas /message/8313 Hello Friends,If it is primeries, I can understand the exercise. If we are talking of Who will be next president, then we are counting chickens beforethey are hatched. We can, atleast I , will wait till it is a contest between two candidates.Tatvam-Asi /message/8317 My past experience about elections dicatates that it is the final contestants who should be evaluated.Tatvam-Asi /message/8316 From Lagna, her sixth house is empty, where as from Moon the sixth house has deb. Mars and Sat - a deadly combo! No dobut she facing tough opposition from obama. However, I feel LL-YK combo would bail her out. Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Dear Members, Few affirmative positive prediction messages....... time to now apply them for more repeatability and perfection of technique.... With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas /message/8307 The US is on the threshold of a new dawn and may be the feat of a new history. If the democrats win, they will produce either the first ever 'lady' president' or the first ever 'black' president in the history of the USA. Obama's is being portrayed as the candidate for change — youthful and charismatic while Clinton is an accomplished senator, master political tactician and invaluable asset to the party. The biggest difference between the two appears to be 'judgment versus experience'. regardsneelam /message/8315 There is good amount of clarity that whoever amongst the democrats nominee, is going to win the Presidential election,..............Democrats are having a some suggested alternatives / ideas, which the intelligent USA electorate surely would have something to "hope" upon /message/8337 Continuing my earlier mails, delving into predictions without waiting for final nominee names being announced as advised by Mr. Name_Is_Ego ji,.....the hororscopes of both democrat nominee contenders are strong, can indicate some surprise spin later with each one sharing / trading "President / Vice President" posts....for it is need irrespective of who wins the final democrat nomination /message/8359 Before seeing Obama's chart, I had the feeling that Hillary is set to win under the grace of her Sun. Obama's chart [Mr. Obama, 4-Aug-1961, 13:06 hrs, Honolulu] is stronger and he is likely to outsmart Hillary after 26 May 2008. Obama will win with his oratory if the chart is correct i.e. Mercury in 10th in Cancer. Obama's 10th harmonic chart has Mars as Lagna lord who is in the royal sign Leo and favors rice to the topmost position. Guru_Venus from 07.04.2006 to Dec 2008 is a lucky period for him. Only negative factor in his chart is Rahu joining Mars - his Presidency will be affected by disgrace, Rahu is in navamsa_Lagna too. Mars bhukti after 26. 01.2011 and the Rahu chidram 14.02.2011 to 06 April 20011 may cause allegations which may affect his career. chandra hari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Dear Members, An addition to missed - list of prediction............ from this group arhives where the predictions have astray.............. making us to go back and analyse again.... and to gain from that experience........ With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas /message/8329 Thanks for compiling shots of few at Hillary V/S Obama contest. I too found place in urs mentions. Howver, my narayn dasa analysis never pointedly said OBAMA may win but I said that he is passing through very good period. However,his period of gain ends on 21/2/2008. from 21/2/2008 to 12/5/2008, he will be getting mediocre results Thanks and regards,sanjeev Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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