venus in chart ,diffrnt rasi' s and tatwas

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Om Namah shivaye,

 

Namaste,

 

I have details of a young lady with Venus exalted in 9H, aspected by

vakri shani in 7H.. Venus is in navamsha lagna, aquarius..Currently

undergoing shani-venus period..

 

She is very attractive,lively, has interest in music, plays guitar,

not particularly talented..She is also very photogenic.. Her interest

in clothes ranges from 'wow' to 'awww', very much dependant on her

moods.. Has food fads etc.. Overall a very self absorbed person,, but

this can be due to her tender years too,, she is sweet seventeen!

 

Although she can be caring,, she gives impression of being very

superficial, long term planning and sense of responsiblity is

lacking.. She has decided to quit her studies,(shani-ven period), and

is undecided as what career she would like to pursue,, her mind is

in 'grasshopper mode'

 

Birth details.. 20th may 1990, birth time 11.25 am. POB, london UK,

dst 1Hour,, lagna is cancer (kark)

 

Regards

Sheevani

 

 

, " neelam gupta "

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> dear Sreenivas ji,

>

> Sorry, this dear friend of mine is cancer lagna and has exalted

venus with

> ketu in 9th house, not 4h. Her moon is in gemini in 12H, saturn

aspecting

> moon from 6H, Jupiter in scorpio in 5H, Mercury and sun in aquarius

in 8H.

> She's not likely to get her venus dasha before 2020.

>

> Very peculiar case:

> A little eccentric, all her subordinates hate her.

> Average looks, shabby dressing, shoddy tastes and everything

undesirable.

> Intelligent, obviously. A Ph.D in biochem and an IFS now.

> Never got married...nor interested...so no kids...

> has differences and frequent brawls with parents...

> one sister and no brother...

>

> Interestingly got through civil services in sat-ven.

>

> regards

> neelam

>

>

> On 11/03/2008, sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote:

> >

> >

> > Namaste Mr. Vijayanarasimha H Pakka ji,

> >

> > You are hitting the bulls_eye....your examples (1) & (2) both are

> > excellent. In the second case, the point change of dasha changing

the

> > life style pattern is a point to be noted. Very important in

> > predictions.

> >

> > A very similar case of exceptionally good at dancing " kuchipudi

style " -

> > Female, 17-Jan-1971, 09:50 hrs, Vijayawada. She in two years won

> > almost 197 awards including at state level, represented at

national

> > level at Khajurhao dance festival to my knowledge ..... know this

lady

> > very closely.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Sreeram_Srinivas

> >

> > --- In

<%

40>,

> > Vijayanarasimha H Pakka

> > <hpvijaynarasimha@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Neelamji,

> > Truly said, but I fell both of you are right, because here we are

> > looking at venus in isolation. Lagna is also important, as is the

> > influence of other planets on the native. For example, My father

has

> > exalted venus, but in 6th. He has mars exalted in 4th and has

ruchaka

> > yoga, and he truly shows those characteristics, i.e., is very

masculine

> > and short tempered, and has military characteristics, i.e,

involved in

> > physical fights, is very brave and is almost not afraid of

anyone. But

> > venus doesnt show up much in his behaviour, i.e., he is totally

> > unbothered about what he wears and not at all fussy about good

food.

> > Venus has manisfested in his very good looks and he used to sing

in his

> > younger days, but other venus characteristics are subdued very

much. Now

> > he is running venus dasha and is giving above average results.

i.e, he

> > is enjoying some comforts.

> >

> > My sister has venus exalted in 2nd house. She is very beautiful,

and is

> > excellent in dancing. When she had venus dasha she won Ms. India

> > superpersonality contest and 2 other similar contests. She won

numerous

> > prizes in dancing. She was a top choreographer/fashion designer

among

> > bangalore universities during that time. But immediately after

venus

> > dasha she completely stopped all this and now practices surgery.

She put

> > on weight and doesnt dance at all.

> >

> > Hence, I would say that while venus dasha is very fruitful for

such

> > persons, the characteristics vary to certain extent depending on

lagna

> > and other planets. But dahs and antardasha definitely give good

food,

> > jewellery, fine clothes, fame to certain extent, etc.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Vijay.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Madam,

 

Not surprising for her to go into Civil Services during Saturn - Venus.

For Cancer Lagna, Saturn is 7HL & 8HL, Venus is 4HL & 11HL in

9H....indicating foreign services.....Saturn in 6H giving her the

impetus ....... Venus conjunct with Ketu again showing foreign

connection ...... Saturn & Venus in mutual kendra..... 11HL exalted in

9H.....good salary....abroad connections.....etc.....

 

LL going to 12H, lack of concentration, procastination, aspected by old

age lazy & slow planet Saturn, with a strong Rahu in 3H giving her

courage, Rahu & Moon in mutual kendra,.....with more planets in visible

side .... must be making her " unpopular " for in office people generally

appreciate clarity of mind, quick actions or decisions....which she may

be lacking....hence, I am using the word " unpopular " to " hate " ......the

Rahu is making little erratic and being harsh when things not so much

need or so....possibly making her being put in " hate " slot.

 

7HL & 8HL Saturn going to 6H .....even if married she would have ended

up in " incompatible " issues......

 

Need to see the varga positions....... incase if the birth data can be

posted.......we may chance to look on her " unmarried " & " hated "

parameters.

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

 

 

, " neelam gupta "

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

 

dear Sreenivas ji,

 

Sorry, this dear friend of mine is cancer lagna and has exalted venus

with ketu in 9th house, not 4h. Her moon is in gemini in 12H, saturn

aspecting moon from 6H, Jupiter in scorpio in 5H, Mercury and sun in

aquarius in 8H. She's not likely to get her venus dasha before 2020.

 

Very peculiar case:

A little eccentric, all her subordinates hate her. Average looks,

shabby dressing, shoddy tastes and everything undesirable.

Intelligent, bviously. A Ph.D in biochem and an IFS now. Never got

married...nor interested...so no kids... has differences and frequent

brawls with parents... one sister and no brother... Interestingly

got through civil services in sat-ven.

 

regards

neelam

[Guest guest]

sure SSji, her details are 19.2.1959/16.45/delhi.neelam

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil ji,

 

Thanks for your write-up on Venus in different houses.

 

Let me ask you something....27th degree in Pisces is the deep

exaltaion point of Venus. Thus it is also the Gandantha zone. How do

you explain this? Why did Venus select GD as her deep exaltation

point? Would such Venus lost in the indulgence of worldly comforts

lead the native to her/his own destruction?

 

Hope I am clear...

 

blessings

 

Renu

 

 

 

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

>

>

> hare rama krishna

>

> dear grp and respected members .

>

>

>

> I would like to discuss abt venus in diffrnt rasi signs and we

can

> see how its influenving the sexual behavior of a person .I just

wanted

> to concetrate on that aspect of life and pls consider it as an

addition

> to my marriage matchting article .

>

>

>

> In naisargika dasa venus rules 12 to 32 yrs ,So all most 20 yrs

and it

> says this is the main period as far as marriage ,lov and making a

> family is concerned ( let us forget the western ppl and marrying

at the

> age of 80 or so )

>

>

>

> Here i am taking the venus singly in one rasi ,if there is

conjunctions

> and aspects and other yogas like pravrajya or sanyasa or even if

venus

> is combust ,it may help or modify the behaviour and character of a

> person .

>

>

>

> I am writing this in context of 2 things one is there was a query

on how

> a planet behaves in diffrnt rasis .

>

>

>

> 2nd there was a discussion going on sanyas yogas and planets in

another

> grp .Tho i am not mentioning abt those yogas in this write up but

it may

> giv some idea abt those yogas and connections with venus .

>

>

>

> Venus is karaka for married life ,partner in general ,karak for sex

> organs ,sexual fluids in body ,also controls reproducing system and

> karaka for semen .Also venus has netra (eye ) karakatwa ,karaka

for face

> ,also karaka for money ( as natural 2nd lord ) tho jup controls

finances

> general .In male chart the condition of venus will decide the

beauty and

> character of his wife ,also his sexual beahviour and happiness

from

> marriage .In ladies chart the venus shows the qulaity of married

life

> and her happiness tru marriage .

>

>

>

> So venus has given water karaka twa too also venus rules 2 signs

taurus

> an earthy sign and libra an airy sign ,

>

>

>

> Now let us see a chart having venus in aries a agni rasi ,being a

watery

> planet in agneya rasi <it can giv more movement to sexual fluids in

> one's body and situaltion may be out of control as mars is also a

pitta

> planet and agneya graha and aries in his sign .so naturaly will be

> having more sexual drive ,it can be reduced or more when venus has

> aspect of sun ( more ) or other planets like rahu ,and a jupiterian

> drishti may bring a disciplined character too .

>

>

>

> But when in scorpio sign its also a jala rasi so venus will be more

> tamed here ,and rest may depends on whole chart ,

>

>

>

> venus in watery rasis is more comfortable as watery planet excpet

in

> cancer sign .cancer is natural 4th house and venus getting a stana

bala

> in 4th house and also being a watery sign of moon ( moon is good

and bad

> according to its paksha bala and planets influencing it even tru

kendra

> ,trikona axis as far as married life is concerned ) also u can see

> jupiter gets exlated here .Again venus exalts in a jupiterian rasi

and

> natural 12th house ,such persons to may go for more relations tho

some

> hidden natureor controlled secret behavour in relation ships may

be

> there as the rasi also a satwik sign .But conjn with moon and merc

can

> increase the water nature ( water can enter any where )

>

>

>

> venus in mercurian signs --One is airy (gemini ) and other is

earthy

> sign (virgo )Both are natural dual signs .airy rasis generaly

gives more

> imagination and merc is a planet which is nutral or child ,so this

> placement is not that harmful tho venus dont like child like

attitude

> But its natural 3rd house and a kama trikon .But in virgo tho

bhoomi

> tatwa sign with water content .so this duality in nature of the

rasi is

> difficult for venus ,also virgo is showing a rasi of virgin which

is

> against the nature of venus .Also natural 6th house ,a roga rasi

and

> also its 12th to venus s favrite libra sign .so venus debilates

here

> .6th house is other wise house of hard work too .But venus as

natural

> karaka for comforts venus cant be comfortable here .

>

>

>

> Now let us take venus in leo ,a agni tatwa ,pitta rasi of sun ,sun

is a

> dharmik planet and also satwik in nature ,so this satwa rajo guna

is

> better than tamo guna of mars .

>

>

>

> Now venus in jupiterian rasis .one is sagitarius and other is

pisces .

>

> one is agni tatwa rasi and other is a water sign .Also jupiter is a

> satwik planet .

>

>

>

> Jupiter represents the traditions ,discipline in darmik sense and

also

> who rules 9th house house of dharma and 12th house house of moksha

(tho

> it also shows sayya sukha ) in natural chart .

>

>

>

> But the explanations given by vishanava branch of astrology in kala

> purusha is equating venus with laxmi and 12th house feet of

naryana and

> they explains venus is happy here like laxmii sitting near lotus

feet of

> lord narayana and laxmi also came frm ocean ( shkeer sagar ) what

ever

> it is .this position of venus is taming venus to a gr8 extent and

venus

> qualities will be ther with more decent and neat beahviour,also

venus if

> without much afflictions the agni karaka natural dharma bhava rasi

of

> sagitarious also venus is very much controlled here .

>

>

>

> it also says venus is moving reverse .prathiloma gathi which shows

some

> reverse in attitude who is having venus in trouble that may be one

of

> the reason in planetary war even when venus fails actialy not

fails .The

> planet behind in war is considered looser in planetary war except

venus

> .

>

>

>

> venus in saturn signs --sat has 2 signs .one is capricon a jala

rasi and

> bhoomi rasi

>

> venus must be comfortable here ,but sani is a cold planet showing a

> contraction also tamo graha and vata karaka and shows

olderness ,too

> much discipline and hard working -all this is against venusian

happy

> and joyful nature ,so it can reduce the movable and jovial nature

of

> venus and even it can cuase a sort of jadatwa ( so sort of

frigidity )

> and it may cause problems in natural course of venusian traits and

it

> may lead to other kind of sexual habbits even .

>

>

>

> And in aquarian sign --its airy rasi venus should be comfortable

here

> .But natural 11th house .which can make may be the desireus more

active

> and giv more trouble .also saturnian traits .so its more

problematic

> than capriconian sign .So this is a volatile situation .

>

>

>

> Also we should consider the other aspects in chart for complete

judge

> ment

>

>

>

> If venus is in good sign and is comfortable ,the nature of a

person in

> married or lov life will be more caring ,giving respect to

partner ,will

> hav mercy .lov and sacrificial attitude towards partner .If this is

> absent then the fights and oppositions and selfishness will be

there

> and it can cause problems in married life and then it can giv other

> relation ship and their by many problems including loses and mental

> problems and extra ordinary and unexpected jolts in life of a

person

> may resulting to the extent of down falls in life .

>

>

>

> By the by the venus too much afflicted along with 2nd house and

lord

> afflicted charts i find there is problems in earning money and if

the

> dasa is unfavrable it may result in damage to ones face by

accidents or

> other events .More so in ladies charts .

>

>

>

> This i am scribbling down because a got a challenge to prove and

show

> atleast one planet and its karaka and rasis and how we can mix all

this

> in phaladesha .Depending on nature of query and wheter we seeing

natal

> chart or prashna depending on the karakatwa according to the

karyesha we

> can add or edit many things to venus

>

> for example a query abt Garbha prashna (pregnancy ) venus rules

first

> month ,so if venus is afflicted in the prashna chart too much (

now in

> horizon ) the first month of pregnancy can be trouble some .Venus

rules

> khatta tastes ,so lady may be given that kind of food ( or fond of

that

> kind food during first month of pregnancy ) ,venus rules

mahamritynja

> mantra ,so reciting it will be help ful .venus also rules similar

> ayurvedic herbs which is khatta taste ( means tamarind type taste )

>

>

>

> so depending on nature of query and condition of progression of

> delination of results we hav to add karakatwa and other

characteristics

> .

>

>

>

> But generaly in a chart too much afflicted venus is laibility and

it may

> giv obstructions and blocks and problems in natural happiness in

married

> life and life in general .

>

>

>

> hope this may be some what correct to truth and nearest to waht

rishis

> has proclaimed .I invite corrections from learned memebrs

>

>

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

>

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah

>

[Guest guest]

Hare rama krishna

dear renu ji

 

Thanks for asking such a question and putting me in such a trap

 

I am also searching for answer as my venus dasa is running now and there is so many years take it to complete ,for my chart its yoga karaka too .

 

venus almost in same position and tho i was b4 very fond of perfumes and good dreesess ( those days CD shirts were ruling roost and i used to take in dozens also very costly ) Now in venus dasa i am not that type .

 

also its a place of balavasta (child ) if u take from last as its a female sign

 

i think other memebrs may answer u

 

rgrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

 

 

 

 

, "renunw" <renunw wrote:>> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Thanks for your write-up on Venus in different houses.> > Let me ask you something....27th degree in Pisces is the deep > exaltaion point of Venus. Thus it is also the Gandantha zone. How do > you explain this? Why did Venus select GD as her deep exaltation > point? Would such Venus lost in the indulgence of worldly comforts > lead the native to her/his own destruction?> > Hope I am clear...> > blessings> > Renu

[Guest guest]

Dear Renu ji, Sunil ji,The exaltation and debilitation signs and degrees are very strange. We need to dive deeper to get close to their meanings..Like venus, mars also exalts at 28 degrees. also jupiter! very young at 5 degrees.

Apart from degrees, ever wonder why:

Venus is not friendly to moon but moon chooses to exalt in Taurus, but

debilitates in friendly scorpio. Should this moon give results of exaltation

or inimical sign.

Mars and Saturn are

enemies but Mars exalts in Capricorn. Mars and Jupiter are

friends but mars exalts in Capricorn where Jupiter is debilitated whereas

Jupiter exalts in cancer where mars gets debilitated. Mars is also friendly to

moon but gets debilitated in its territory.Mercury and venus are

friends, but venus exalts in pisces where mercury is debilitated, while venus is

debilitated in virgo

Sun's behaviour is understandable, it exalts in

friendly aries and debilitates in inimical libraSaturn is also sensible, it exalts in friend venus's MT sign and debilitates in enemy mars' sign.think and keep thinking...

regardsneelam

 

 

On 11/03/2008, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Hare rama krishna

dear renu ji

 

Thanks for asking such a question and putting me in such a trap

 

I am also searching for answer as my venus dasa is running now and there is so many years take it to complete ,for my chart its yoga karaka too .

 

venus almost in same position and tho i was b4 very fond of perfumes and good dreesess ( those days CD shirts were ruling roost and i used to take in dozens also very costly ) Now in venus dasa i am not that type .

 

also its a place of balavasta (child ) if u take from last as its a female sign

 

i think other memebrs may answer u

 

rgrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

 

 

 

 

, " renunw " <renunw wrote:

>> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Thanks for your write-up on Venus in different houses.> > Let me ask you something....27th degree in Pisces is the deep > exaltaion point of Venus. Thus it is also the Gandantha zone. How do

> you explain this? Why did Venus select GD as her deep exaltation > point? Would such Venus lost in the indulgence of worldly comforts > lead the native to her/his own destruction?> > Hope I am clear...

> > blessings> > Renu

[Guest guest]

Hare rama krishna

 

dear neelam ji

 

 

 

last time when sreenadh ji visited me ,we started this discussion

and but some phone call diverted the topic and he was trying to say some

thing ,may be this time he can giv it clear answer i hope ,or i am not

sure wat he was trying to say .

 

 

 

This are the areas where some times we find how we r not good in basics

or hidden mysteries .which could hav more helped in delination of dasas

..

 

 

 

thanks for the post

 

 

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

 

 

 

 

, " neelam gupta "

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Renu ji, Sunil ji,

>

> The exaltation and debilitation signs and degrees are very strange. We

need

> to dive deeper to get close to their meanings..

> Like venus, mars also exalts at 28 degrees. also jupiter! very young

at 5

> degrees.

>

> Apart from degrees, ever wonder why:

>

> Venus is not friendly to moon but moon chooses to exalt in Taurus, but

> debilitates in friendly scorpio.

> Should this moon give results of exaltation or inimical sign.

>

> Mars and Saturn are enemies but Mars exalts in Capricorn.

>

> Mars and Jupiter are friends but mars exalts in Capricorn where

Jupiter is

> debilitated whereas Jupiter exalts in cancer where mars gets

debilitated.

> Mars is also friendly to moon but gets debilitated in its territory.

>

> Mercury and venus are friends, but venus exalts in pisces where

mercury is

> debilitated, while venus is debilitated in virgo

> Sun's behaviour is understandable, it exalts in friendly aries and

> debilitates in inimical libra

>

> Saturn is also sensible, it exalts in friend venus's MT sign and

debilitates

> in enemy mars' sign.

>

> think and keep thinking...

>

> regards

> neelam

[Guest guest]

Namaste madamji,

I am little influenced by the logics of Sri P.S. Sastry in book "Brihat Jataka" {may be pages 14 ..or so... left page running into 3-4 small paras}.... a good reasoning.... members having access to the book may please share the text there in.....

The relation & reasoning lies in the nakshatra postions of respective planets & its qualities.

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

, "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Renu ji, Sunil ji,> > The exaltation and debilitation signs and degrees are very strange. We need to dive deeper to get close to their meanings.. Like venus, mars also exalts at 28 degrees. also jupiter! very young at 5 degrees. Apart from degrees, ever wonder why: Venus is not friendly to moon but moon chooses to exalt in Taurus, but debilitates in friendly scorpio. Should this moon give results of exaltation or inimical sign. Mars and Saturn are enemies but Mars exalts in Capricorn. Mars and Jupiter are friends but mars exalts in Capricorn where Jupiter is debilitated hereas Jupiter exalts in cancer where mars gets debilitated. Mars is also friendly to moon but gets debilitated in its territory. Mercury and venus are friends, but venus exalts in pisces where mercury is debilitated, while venus is debilitated in virgo Sun's behaviour is understandable, it exalts in friendly aries and debilitates in inimical libra Saturn is also sensible, it exalts in friend venus's MT sign and debilitates in enemy mars' sign. think and keep thinking... regardsneelam

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil ji,

 

Trapping was not my motive but getting a quality answer from a

highly learned astrologer and a nice human being ))..Thanks anyway

for the reply.

 

Am I to understand that your Venus is in deep exaltation? It seems

that it is not blocking your path towards seeking the truth...yet as

you say it is only the beginning of the dasha:)))

 

Will be away for a few days..

 

blessings

 

Renu

 

 

 

 

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Hare rama krishna

>

> dear renu ji

>

>

>

> Thanks for asking such a question and putting me in such a

trap

>

>

>

> I am also searching for answer as my venus dasa is running now and

there

> is so many years take it to complete ,for my chart its yoga

karaka too

> .

>

>

>

> venus almost in same position and tho i was b4 very fond of

perfumes and

> good dreesess ( those days CD shirts were ruling roost and i used

to

> take in dozens also very costly ) Now in venus dasa i am not that

type .

>

>

>

> also its a place of balavasta (child ) if u take from last as its

a

> female sign

>

>

>

> i think other memebrs may answer u

>

>

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

>

>

>

>

, " renunw " <renunw@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Sunil ji,

> >

> > Thanks for your write-up on Venus in different houses.

> >

> > Let me ask you something....27th degree in Pisces is the deep

> > exaltaion point of Venus. Thus it is also the Gandantha zone.

How do

> > you explain this? Why did Venus select GD as her deep exaltation

> > point? Would such Venus lost in the indulgence of worldly

comforts

> > lead the native to her/his own destruction?

> >

> > Hope I am clear...

> >

> > blessings

> >

> > Renu

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Neelam ji,

 

Exactly...I totally agree with you. Thanks for the reply...May be we

need to consider the nakshastra that these planets get exalted. May

be Sunil ji can explain this to us. I remember Sreenadh ji giving an

interesting explanation as to why planets gets exalted at their

chosen degrees.

 

Would like you to contemplate more on this ....

 

blessings

 

Renu

 

, " neelam gupta "

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Renu ji, Sunil ji,

>

> The exaltation and debilitation signs and degrees are very

strange. We need

> to dive deeper to get close to their meanings..

> Like venus, mars also exalts at 28 degrees. also jupiter! very

young at 5

> degrees.

>

> Apart from degrees, ever wonder why:

>

> Venus is not friendly to moon but moon chooses to exalt in Taurus,

but

> debilitates in friendly scorpio.

> Should this moon give results of exaltation or inimical sign.

>

> Mars and Saturn are enemies but Mars exalts in Capricorn.

>

> Mars and Jupiter are friends but mars exalts in Capricorn where

Jupiter is

> debilitated whereas Jupiter exalts in cancer where mars gets

debilitated.

> Mars is also friendly to moon but gets debilitated in its

territory.

>

> Mercury and venus are friends, but venus exalts in pisces where

mercury is

> debilitated, while venus is debilitated in virgo

> Sun's behaviour is understandable, it exalts in friendly aries and

> debilitates in inimical libra

>

> Saturn is also sensible, it exalts in friend venus's MT sign and

debilitates

> in enemy mars' sign.

>

> think and keep thinking...

>

> regards

> neelam

>

On 11/03/2008, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Hare rama krishna

> >

> > dear renu ji

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks for asking such a question and putting me in such a

trap

> >

> >

> >

> > I am also searching for answer as my venus dasa is running now

and there

> > is so many years take it to complete ,for my chart its yoga

karaka too .

> >

> >

> >

> > venus almost in same position and tho i was b4 very fond of

perfumes and

> > good dreesess ( those days CD shirts were ruling roost and i

used to take in

> > dozens also very costly ) Now in venus dasa i am not that type .

> >

> >

> >

> > also its a place of balavasta (child ) if u take from last as

its a

> > female sign

> >

> >

> >

> > i think other memebrs may answer u

> >

> >

> >

> > rgrds sunil nair

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " renunw "

<renunw@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Sunil ji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for your write-up on Venus in different houses.

> > >

> > > Let me ask you something....27th degree in Pisces is the deep

> > > exaltaion point of Venus. Thus it is also the Gandantha zone.

How do

> > > you explain this? Why did Venus select GD as her deep

exaltation

> > > point? Would such Venus lost in the indulgence of worldly

comforts

> > > lead the native to her/his own destruction?

> > >

> > > Hope I am clear...

> > >

> > > blessings

> > >

> > > Renu

> >

> >

> >

>

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A few years back ,I came across ainteresting article.It says,In the zodiac,Sun is KingMoon is queenMars is Commander-in-ChiefVenus is Court dancerJupiter is teacherMercury is traderand Saturn is general public

The king has to control the commander-in-Chief but becomes weak in front of dancer,hence sun is exalted in Aires but deb. in Libra,Mars becomes weak in front of the queen but has to control the population hence,Mars is exalted in Capricorn and deb, in cancer,

If you apply the logic likewise you get the logic behind all planets exaltations and debilitation.-Sunder. On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 7:21 AM, sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste madamji,

I am little influenced by the logics of Sri P.S. Sastry in book " Brihat Jataka " {may be pages 14 ..or so... left page running into 3-4 small paras}.... a good reasoning.... members having access to the book may please share the text there in.....

The relation & reasoning lies in the nakshatra postions of respective planets & its qualities.

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

, " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Renu ji, Sunil ji,

> > The exaltation and debilitation signs and degrees are very strange. We need to dive deeper to get close to their meanings.. Like venus, mars also exalts at 28 degrees. also jupiter! very young at 5 degrees.

Apart from degrees, ever wonder why: Venus is not friendly to moon but moon chooses to exalt in Taurus, but debilitates in friendly scorpio. Should this moon give results of exaltation or inimical sign.

Mars and Saturn are enemies but Mars exalts in Capricorn. Mars and Jupiter are friends but mars exalts in Capricorn where Jupiter is debilitated hereas Jupiter exalts in cancer where mars gets debilitated. Mars is also friendly to moon but gets debilitated in its territory.

Mercury and venus are friends, but venus exalts in pisces where mercury is debilitated, while venus is debilitated in virgo Sun's behaviour is understandable, it exalts in friendly aries and debilitates in inimical libra

Saturn is also sensible, it exalts in friend venus's MT sign and debilitates in enemy mars' sign. think and keep thinking... regardsneelam

 

 

-- Sunder

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Dear Renuji, 27th degree is not exactly gandanta. the gandanta is only the last degree of pisces and first degree of aries so far I know. This is true whenever there is a transition from water sign to fire sign.

I may point out here that the last pada of pisces is vargottama as well as the first pada of Aries. Hope that helps, Kishore patnaik

[Guest guest]

Hare rama krishna

dear renu ji

Thanks for the post .i was just joking with u otherwise i always welcomes ur mail ,even was worried when recently u r mails slowed down

 

yes my venus is almost near exaltation point and in nakshatra of merc who is in venus owned taurus .also its sampath tara and lord of 9th for me ,so expecting good results

 

But u know venus is longest dasa ,but i dont see any venusian traits in me ,even what ever was there all drained out i think ,even i was organiser of many cultural events b4 and always all kinds of artists used be in my company and home .

except my kids are good artists in dance and music

 

Now its all a dream and i am almost secluded life

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem maha laxmai namah

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

 

I have another query in this regard.

 

Why planets in maximum exaltation or maximum debilitation

never remains in same condition in navamsha ?

 

I mean Saturn is exalted (paramoccha) in 20 deg Libra. But it will move to

probably pisces or aries in navamsha. It will not remain exalted in navamsha.

 

Probably Mercury is the only exception (I have to check it)

 

Regards

 

Chakraborty

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil-ji,

 

I will get back to you after getting the desired details.

 

Regards

 

Chakraborty

 

[Guest guest]

If you corelate the basic nature of the planets to the nature of the depositor, some logic is evident. For. eg A brash and reckless Mars becomes industrious in capricon of slow mercury. A venus prone to sensuality if unbridled concentrates on the arts & its other aspects as a powerful teacher of knowledge when in Pisces belonging to Jupiter.

A self effacing Saturn is in its elements in the airy sign of friend Venus and debilitated in fast passed Mar's sign Aries where it is relentlessly pushed into doing things while it is reluctant. Also it is diametrically opposite to Aries where his father & arch enemy is exalated.

Venus is comfortable in the feminine and luxury loving Venus's sign of Taurus but in Scorpio it can create problems due to Mars relentless pace + its own high speed and because scorpio is a deep watery sign and can take Moon (karaka for emotions to great depths at high speed) Budh is intellect. Against brashness (mars), procastination (saturn) and ironically but truly at odds to spiritualism, where there is no 2+2=4 answers. Therefore it is good for a lawyer,trader but than you rarely find these guy's in spiritual pursuit { with due respects to members who are in these vocations- like me !! ) So Mercury is debilitated in Pisces and is exalated in its own world. SO ON & SO FORTH.........

[Guest guest]

Hare ramakrishna

dear chakraborty ji

 

thanks and u r welcome

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

 

 

, "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear Sunil-ji,> > I will get back to you after getting the desired details.> > Regards> > Chakraborty> > > sunil nair [astro_tellerkerala]> Tuesday, March 11, 2008 6:57 PM> > Re: venus in chart ,diffrnt rasi' s and> tatwas> > > > > > Hare rama krishna> > dear chakraborty ji> > i had a quick look on the chart u supplied> > venus exalted and in exchange with jupiter ,also sag lagna ,so> jupiterian traits also controlling his venus traits> > i think the time u provided is 1.30 am > > any idea abt mars dasa tho it happened when he was young ,also giv mea breif> account on rahu dasa who is vargottam in 11th house ,just curious > > regrds sunil nair> > ancient_indian_ <%40>> astrology , "Chakraborty, PL"> CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote:> >> > Dear Neelam-ji,> >> > I do agree with you.> >> > One of my junior is having exalted Venus in 4H. (He has also an> exalted> > Mars in 2nd house).> >> > What I noticed is....> >> > He is very comfortable (at home) in Cities ....> > Likes shopping.> > Likes to eat and enjoy, partying etc.. (no smoking / drinking)> > His dress sense is not so good, rather carefree (old jeans, T-shirts> etc)> > Informal dress etc.> > Does not like to study (although was good, did BE, MBA)> > Fond of movies, TV, good looking females. His computer screen saver> > is always have photographs of new actresses which keeps on changing.> > He also carries photographs of new actresses in his purse. His wife> > (love marraige, inter-lingusitic) is aware of that and accepted it as> it is.> > A very good human being.> >> > His DOB is> > 07 March, 1977, 01:30 (plus minus 5 min), kolkata> >> > Regards> >> > Chakraborty> > > > neelam gupta [neelamgupta07@]> > Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:09 PM> > ancient_indian_ <%40>> astrology > > Re: venus in chart ,diffrnt rasi'> s and> > tatwas> >> >> >> > Dear Sreeramji,> >> > // Exalted Venus, dress sense is excellent, if found in females,> > specific about "color" matching, good eating habits, food taste is> > excellent or say royal ?!!//> >> > Be careful...One sentence can make or break many> (mis)conceptions...people> > tend to take good things in isolation and try to get excuses for> not-so-good> > things. No-one will say I have a deb-venus and I am like that...> >> > Nice that it has manifested as SU-yog for some, but I can show you> some> > examples where it is quite the contrary. Exalted venus can manisfest> in> > other ways apart from beauty, dress sense etc., specially if it is not> > related to lagna factors from lagna and moon and navamsh.> >> > I have a friend and batch-mate, she has an exalted venus in 4th house> and> > she is quite contrary to the above though she is a high-rank diplomat> (an> > IFS).> >> > best regards> >> > neelam> >> > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil ji,

 

A lot to catch up....thanks for the reply. I am a bit busy these

days as my daughter is back in SL on vacation. Yet...I will try to

respond to posts as many as possible.

 

I am interested in analysing your Venus...as it seems to

be 'exalted' in the true sense of the word :}

 

blessings

 

Renu

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

> Hare rama krishna

>

> dear renu ji

>

> Thanks for the post .i was just joking with u otherwise i

always

> welcomes ur mail ,even was worried when recently u r mails slowed

down

>

>

>

> yes my venus is almost near exaltation point and in nakshatra of

merc

> who is in venus owned taurus .also its sampath tara and lord of

9th for

> me ,so expecting good results

>

>

>

> But u know venus is longest dasa ,but i dont see any venusian

traits in

> me ,even what ever was there all drained out i think ,even i was

> organiser of many cultural events b4 and always all kinds of

artists

> used be in my company and home .

>

> except my kids are good artists in dance and music

>

>

>

> Now its all a dream and i am almost secluded life

>

>

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem maha laxmai namah

>