procedure followed during the nadi reading

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Hare rama krishna

dear grp .

In continuation with earlier mail ,i am presenting the general procedure during the nadi leaf reading process .This is for general awareness .

 

PROCEDURE

The Nadi Astrologer is generally busy and one has to take an appointment with him a month before approximately When you go there on the appointed day he checks his dairy and take the three impressions of the right thumb for males and the left thumb for females on a paper giving serial order number and ask you to wait till he calls you. Then he goes inside his library room where the palm leaves are kept which is not accessible to others. After an hour or so, sometimes quicker, he comes back with an old palm leaf bundle called index leaves. After making himself comfortable he carefully unwinds the long string which keeps the bundle in tact. He tells you to answer yes or no to his questions. With great devotion he takes the first palm leaf and starts reading on one side. The reading style is of funny accent in a poetic way, not understandable to even Tamilians. After reading one or two lines or even less sometimes he asks you some questions and you have to answer yes or no only. If you say 'No' he proceeds to the other side of leaf or next leaf and continues his questions. The questions are generally one or two at a time , such as whether our name is after some God /Goddess contains 3 or 4 or so letters or so, starts ends with a particular letter in a Varga (series) of the Hindu alphabets, Similarly about the names of parents and wife/husband whether anyone of them or both are alive or dead, number of elder and younger brothers and sisters, number of children number of uncles, type of profession, whether you are born in rainy season /summer etc. whether you are born in moveable /fixed/dual Moon and lagna rasis, whether you are born in a particular Moon Birth star whether you are born in a particular day in a particular year whether your age is so and so etc. He says that h e does not know what questions to ask unless he scans the leaves and that is why they generally insist the concerned person or a person who knows every detail about the persons consulted, should be present to answer the questions correctly, otherwise they say the readings won't go wrong. They do no bother much of you cannot answer questions about birth date month age, Moon rasi and star, lagna and they seem to bother more about matching of your name names of parents and wife/husband. If he gets 'No' answers to all the leaves of the first bundle which he goes back into his library and brings another bundle. This process continues for an hour or so generally covering generally up to bundles each consisting about 50 leaves or sometimes quickly even in the first bundle till he and your are satisfied and the answers to all the questions in a particular leaf are 'yes' only Concerning names, parents, wife /husband, co-borns profession etc.

 

Then he goes inside and bring another particular bundle and reads in poetic style your actual birth date month land year the astrological birth chart with position of planets sometimes with lagna also exact names of yourself, parents, wife/ husband, co-born, education, profession and gist of future predictions in a broad way and this is called General Kandam (chapter) of first bhava. You can verify the chart given if you know your birth chart he writes the concerned verses from the leaf in a note book . Then he records the same in an audio tape with translation into common understandable Tamil or some other languages with the help of a translator if necessary . He generally charges a minimum of 400 rupees upto this General Kandam Then he asks you whether you want to more details about any particular aspect of your life such as marriage, profession, etc and if so he picks up corresponding bundle and charges a similar amount extra for each aspect which he calls it a separate kandam or chapter. Some chapters give details about previous birth, remedial measures etc. At the end he hands over the note book and audio tape to you with devotion and takes money generally at the place where the photos of Gods /Goddess are there.

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

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Dear Suniji,Thnx for the info for the general public. I have been to a couple of nadi astrologers in Bangalore. 1st person was recommended by my relative to be quite accurate. I was shell shocked to hear him say many of my personal details. They were so accurate that I began doubting if my relative had mentioned all my details to him beforehand. He even mentioned about my last birth, from which the reason why I was suffering in some aspects of life were clearly correlating.The doubt I have is, How do they match our fingerprints with the bundle of leaves. Does the bundle contain a similar fingerprint? Regards,Vijay.sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: Hare rama krishna dear grp . In continuation with earlier mail ,i am presenting the general procedure during the nadi leaf reading process .This is for general awareness . PROCEDURE The Nadi Astrologer is generally busy and one has to take an appointment with him a month before approximately When you go there on the

appointed day he checks his dairy and take the three impressions of the right thumb for males and the left thumb for females on a paper giving serial order number and ask you to wait till he calls you. Then he goes inside his library room where the palm leaves are kept which is not accessible to others. After an hour or so, sometimes quicker, he comes back with an old palm leaf bundle called index leaves. After making himself comfortable he carefully unwinds the long string which keeps the bundle in tact. He tells you to answer yes or no to his questions. With great devotion he takes the first palm leaf and starts reading on one side. The reading style is of funny accent in a poetic way, not understandable to even Tamilians. After reading one or two lines or even less sometimes he asks you some questions and you have to answer yes or no only. If you say 'No' he proceeds to the other side of leaf or next leaf and continues his questions. The questions are generally one or

two at a time , such as whether our name is after some God /Goddess contains 3 or 4 or so letters or so, starts ends with a particular letter in a Varga (series) of the Hindu alphabets, Similarly about the names of parents and wife/husband whether anyone of them or both are alive or dead, number of elder and younger brothers and sisters, number of children number of uncles, type of profession, whether you are born in rainy season /summer etc. whether you are born in moveable /fixed/dual Moon and lagna rasis, whether you are born in a particular Moon Birth star whether you are born in a particular day in a particular year whether your age is so and so etc. He says that h e does not know what questions to ask unless he scans the leaves and that is why they generally insist the concerned person or a person who knows every detail about the persons consulted, should be present to answer the questions correctly, otherwise they say the readings won't go wrong. They do no bother

much of you cannot answer questions about birth date month age, Moon rasi and star, lagna and they seem to bother more about matching of your name names of parents and wife/husband. If he gets 'No' answers to all the leaves of the first bundle which he goes back into his library and brings another bundle. This process continues for an hour or so generally covering generally up to bundles each consisting about 50 leaves or sometimes quickly even in the first bundle till he and your are satisfied and the answers to all the questions in a particular leaf are 'yes' only Concerning names, parents, wife /husband, co-borns profession etc. Then he goes inside and bring another particular bundle and reads in poetic style your actual

birth date month land year the astrological birth chart with position of planets sometimes with lagna also exact names of yourself, parents, wife/ husband, co-born, education, profession and gist of future predictions in a broad way and this is called General Kandam (chapter) of first bhava. You can verify the chart given if you know your birth chart he writes the concerned verses from the leaf in a note book . Then he records the same in an audio tape with translation into common understandable Tamil or some other languages with the help of a translator if necessary . He generally charges a minimum of 400 rupees upto this General Kandam Then he asks you whether you want to more details about any particular aspect of your life such as marriage, profession, etc and if so he picks up corresponding bundle and charges a similar amount extra for each aspect which he calls it a separate kandam or chapter. Some chapters give details about previous birth, remedial measures etc. At

the end he hands over the note book and audio tape to you with devotion and takes money generally at the place where the photos of Gods /Goddess are there. regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

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hare rama krishna

 

dear vijay ji

 

 

 

What i can understand frm few interactions is our thumb impressions

are classified as 1008 types and each has a diffrnt name .So they calls

some rekha like mani chanku rekha like some names i heard they called it

and they r selecting our leaf frm such bundles codyfied and indexed.

 

 

 

Then some questions to make it sure as its ur leaf and then they start

reading out each chpater upon ur demand

 

 

 

May be suppose ur name is vijaya narasimaha moorthy ,may such 2 or 3

persons may b having in the leafs and even some cases lot of similarity

..so in such case some more questions needed to make it more sure .

 

 

 

I am doing this readings for my clients and frnds ( get it read frm

known persons ) just a part of my reserch .

 

 

 

But i m after the principles of nadi which each rishi used and i think

and find they use defenit set of rules .But readers are generaly read

out for u and many dont know head and tail abt astrology or nadi s

principles .

 

 

 

these days even if they dont find ur leaf ,may try fake and read out

for u and making money

 

 

 

such ppl r more these days evn i find frm traditional families also the

next generation dont wanted toil and just knows the trick of trade than

family secrets .

 

 

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Vijayanarasimha H Pakka

<hpvijaynarasimha wrote:

>

> Dear Suniji,

>

> Thnx for the info for the general public. I have been to a couple of

nadi astrologers in Bangalore. 1st person was recommended by my relative

to be quite accurate. I was shell shocked to hear him say many of my

personal details. They were so accurate that I began doubting if my

relative had mentioned all my details to him beforehand. He even

mentioned about my last birth, from which the reason why I was suffering

in some aspects of life were clearly correlating.

>

> The doubt I have is, How do they match our fingerprints with the

bundle of leaves. Does the bundle contain a similar fingerprint?

>

> Regards,

> Vijay.

>

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Vijay ji,

 

Can you please give the details of this nadi reader? I live in Bangalore.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

Vijayanarasimha H Pakka <hpvijaynarasimha wrote:

Dear Suniji,

 

Thnx for the info for the general public. I have been to a couple of nadi

astrologers in Bangalore. 1st person was recommended by my relative to be quite

accurate. I was shell shocked to hear him say many of my personal details. They

were so accurate that I began doubting if my relative had mentioned all my

details to him beforehand. He even mentioned about my last birth, from which the

reason why I was suffering in some aspects of life were clearly correlating.

 

The doubt I have is, How do they match our fingerprints with the bundle of

leaves. Does the bundle contain a similar fingerprint?

 

Regards,

Vijay.

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Dear Vijay Ji and Krishna Ji,

 

My experience with one of the Bangalore based Nadi (Agasthya Muni

Nadi reader) reader is very strange.. i could make out they are Pakka

Commercial minded and have very good business model:-):-) (honestly i

appreciate thier Business Model and i don't have any issues with that)

 

Each Kandam reading is charged is separatly..

 

But personally i am not convienced what they told me and which are

not at all matching...

 

The Reader kept on asking me questions with some initial

letters...like is your name Name starts

with...Sha...Sa...Kha...ga...etc.. and using this permutation and

combinations technic and with some sychic condtions of the seeker

they keep on telling the Stories....And moresover I (Seeker) can not

read what is written in those palm leives...:-)

 

He changed min 2 sets of Nadis for my prediction(s)...later asked me

to give me a Birth details from which he made the chart...and jotted

down something in Tamil when i asked and came to know about the

details It is nothing But normal prediction(s) 90% Past 10%

future..!! that he mentioned..

 

One more interesting thing is he asked me to perform a Pooja of Sri

Subramanya..which cost only Rs 30/- then i said go-ahead he came back

with complete proposal in which it was mentioned 30 x 33 day poojas =

990.00 and only thing was they didn't mentioned the Service Tax:-)

 

This is my actual experience with Bangalore based Nadi reader agast

 

Regards

 

Chand2Chill

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Namaste Sunil Ji, Thanks for giving some insights to Nadi astrology... The enlightened Siddha masters founded Nadi astrology. Lord Shiva, pleased with their devotion, bestowed upon them some exclusive powers. He gave them the incredible clairvoyance to know the past, present and future. The Siddhas have etched their priceless knowledge on ancient palm leaves called Nadis. Associated with you in your 'Poorva Janma' (previous birth), they promised to help you in a future life, i.e. now. By the Nadi law, you will be involuntarily attracted to the leaves by destiny only. The very word Nadi in Tamil means (destined) to come on own accord . Not every person goes in search of this prediction. Only selected few get the reading. That is why it is termed Nadi sasthiram in Tamil. The very fact you are reading this far into the description of the Nadis is an

interesting omen as not everyone even hears about them, let alone is curious about them. Nadi astrology was written on palm leaves in ancient India. It is mostly prevalent in South India, particularly in Tamilnadu State. Its main centre is a place called 'Vaitheeswarankoil' near 'Chidambaram'in Tamilnadu State. It is also available in some other places

of Chennai, Kanchipuram, Salem, Hyderabad/Secunderabad, Tirupati etc. There are many Nadi Grandhas and they are named after Hindu Gods, Sages and Planets such as Mahasiva Nadi Brugu Nadi Kowmara Nadi Koushika Nadi Vashishta Nadi Agastya Nadi Sapta Rishi Nadi SatyaNadi Chandra Kala Nadi etc. I am not sure about which "Nadi" reading is better, may be memebers in this group can share their experience. Just thought of sharing some info which I got from my friend. Namashivaya.

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Dear Krishnaji, I am currently in UK and have left his address in my room back in Bangalore. But I shall give you an informal address as of now, plz give me a week's time to ask someone back home to look at the address. I suppose you might be knowing oracle office on hosur road, just by the side of it is the famous arunodaya choultry. If you stand exactly in front of arunodaya (this choultry is on a side road) you can see a small road leading directly to this nadi astrologer. Basically once to go near arunodaya, anyone on the road can direct you to this guy. He follows agastya rishi nadi. I had been to another guy who lives on a service road by the airport road (HAL layout). He is the more famous guy in bangalore, but I felt he is too lazy to give appointments and definitely tried to fool me with the readings. I shall get you the full address and ph nos of these two guys soon. Regards,VijayKrishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote: Vijay ji, Can you please give the details of this nadi reader? I live in Bangalore. Regards, Krishna Vijayanarasimha H Pakka <hpvijaynarasimha > wrote: Dear Suniji, Thnx for the info for the general public. I have been to a couple of nadi astrologers in Bangalore. 1st person was recommended by my relative to be quite accurate. I was shell shocked to hear him say many of my personal details. They were so accurate

that I began doubting if my relative had mentioned all my details to him beforehand. He even mentioned about my last birth, from which the reason why I was suffering in some aspects of life were clearly correlating. The doubt I have is, How do they match our fingerprints with the bundle of leaves. Does the bundle contain a similar fingerprint? Regards, Vijay.

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Dear Chandu ji,What you said is true now-a-days but there are a few persons who are sincere and do give correct predictions. Basically we cant test the future predictions, hence we depend on the past. What you said about the nadi astrologer predicting our name is perfectly true. Infact when he was doing that I was very much doubtful whether all this would work, but once he got the particular leaf out of the bundle, it was after this that I was shell-shocked. He said the following things from the 1st leaf (without looking at my DOB or my natal chart):1. I was doing my 3rd degree, and it was in research.2. My dad was into civil works.3. I did bachelors in Electrical Engg.4. My Mom had an operation on a part of body lower to stomach within a few years back (she had a tumor removed in 2001). 5. I had two sisters and their professions were in medicine and engg. 6. The family life of one of my sister was not good (she had big fights with

in-laws). But my other sister's family life was wonderful (her in-laws are very sweet and caring). and many such things. Please note that all this was said without him going thru my DOB or my natal chart. Hence the chances of him cheating me are virtually impossible. All these details were to confirm whether the leaf belonged to me or not. I dont think anyone could have just "guessed" about all of these 6 points by just looking at me. But, I also agree with you when you say that many of these guys try to cheat us and dont know anything about nadi stuff. I had experience with such guys also. Regards,Vijay.Chandu2chill <nanna_id2006 wrote: Dear Vijay Ji and Krishna Ji, My experience with one of the Bangalore based Nadi (Agasthya Muni Nadi reader) reader is very strange.. i could make out they are Pakka Commercial minded and have very good business model:-):-) (honestly i appreciate thier Business Model and i don't have any issues with that) Each Kandam reading is charged is separatly.. But personally i am not convienced what they told me and which are not at all matching... The Reader kept on asking me questions with some initial letters...like is your name Name starts with...Sha...Sa...Kha...ga...etc.. and using this permutation and combinations technic and with some sychic condtions of the seeker they keep on telling the Stories....And moresover I (Seeker) can not read what is written in those palm

leives...:-) He changed min 2 sets of Nadis for my prediction(s)...later asked me to give me a Birth details from which he made the chart...and jotted down something in Tamil when i asked and came to know about the details It is nothing But normal prediction(s) 90% Past 10% future..!! that he mentioned.. One more interesting thing is he asked me to perform a Pooja of Sri Subramanya..which cost only Rs 30/- then i said go-ahead he came back with complete proposal in which it was mentioned 30 x 33 day poojas = 990.00 and only thing was they didn't mentioned the Service Tax:-) This is my actual experience with Bangalore based Nadi reader agast Regards Chand2Chill

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Dear Sudhirji,

I do not know which Nadi is better, but my experience with Nadi was

unfortunate. I took important decisions in my life based on Nadi and

today I am regretting it. They told the past and the present

accurately but the future predictions are not materializing as

predicted. I am totally depressed with my Nadi experience.

-Sunder.

 

On 3/13/08, Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon wrote:

> Namaste Sunil Ji,

> Thanks for giving some insights to Nadi astrology...

> The enlightened Siddha masters founded Nadi astrology. Lord Shiva, pleased

> with their devotion, bestowed upon them some exclusive powers. He gave them

> the incredible clairvoyance to know the past, present and future. The

> Siddhas have etched their priceless knowledge on ancient palm leaves called

> Nadis. Associated with you in your 'Poorva Janma' (previous birth), they

> promised to help you in a future life, i.e. now. By the Nadi law, you will

> be involuntarily attracted to the leaves by destiny only. The very word Nadi

> in Tamil means (destined) to come on own accord . Not every person goes in

> search of this prediction. Only selected few get the reading. That is why it

> is termed Nadi sasthiram in Tamil. The very fact you are reading this far

> into the description of the Nadis is an interesting omen as not everyone

> even hears about them, let alone is curious about them.

>

> Nadi astrology was written on palm leaves in ancient India. It is mostly

> prevalent in South India, particularly in Tamilnadu State. Its main centre

> is a place called 'Vaitheeswarankoil' near 'Chidambaram'in Tamilnadu State.

> It is also available in some other places of Chennai, Kanchipuram, Salem,

> Hyderabad/Secunderabad, Tirupati etc. There are many Nadi Grandhas and they

> are named after Hindu Gods, Sages and Planets such as

>

> Mahasiva Nadi

> Brugu Nadi

> Kowmara Nadi

> Koushika Nadi

> Vashishta Nadi

> Agastya Nadi

> Sapta Rishi Nadi

> SatyaNadi

> Chandra Kala Nadi etc.

>

I am not sure about which " Nadi " reading is better, may be memebers in

> this group can share their experience. Just thought of sharing some info

> which I got from my friend.

>

> Namashivaya.

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Namaste Chandu ji, When you are going to a Nadi astrologer just give him your thumb impression only .. Do not give your DOB or any other details. If he ask for DOB .. that itself shows how good he is...... Namashivaya. Vijayanarasimha H Pakka <hpvijaynarasimha wrote: Dear Chandu ji,What you said is true now-a-days but there are a few persons who are sincere and do give correct predictions. Basically we cant test the future predictions,

hence we depend on the past. What you said about the nadi astrologer predicting our name is perfectly true. Infact when he was doing that I was very much doubtful whether all this would work, but once he got the particular leaf out of the bundle, it was after this that I was shell-shocked. He said the following things from the 1st leaf (without looking at my DOB or my natal chart):1. I was doing my 3rd degree, and it was in research.2. My dad was into civil works.3. I did bachelors in Electrical Engg.4. My Mom had an operation on a part of body lower to stomach within a few years back (she had a tumor removed in 2001). 5. I had two sisters and their professions were in medicine and engg. 6. The family life of one of my sister was not good (she had big fights with in-laws). But my other sister's family life was wonderful (her in-laws are very sweet and caring). and many such things. Please note that all this was said without him going

thru my DOB or my natal chart. Hence the chances of him cheating me are virtually impossible. All these details were to confirm whether the leaf belonged to me or not. I dont think anyone could have just "guessed" about all of these 6 points by just looking at me. But, I also agree with you when you say that many of these guys try to cheat us and dont know anything about nadi stuff. I had experience with such guys also. Regards,Vijay.Chandu2chill <nanna_id2006 > wrote: Dear Vijay Ji and Krishna Ji,My experience with one of the Bangalore based Nadi (Agasthya Muni Nadi reader) reader is very strange.. i could make out they are Pakka Commercial minded and have very good business model:-):-) (honestly i appreciate thier Business Model and i don't have any issues with that)Each Kandam reading is

charged is separatly.. But personally i am not convienced what they told me and which are not at all matching...The Reader kept on asking me questions with some initial letters...like is your name Name starts with...Sha...Sa...Kha...ga...etc.. and using this permutation and combinations technic and with some sychic condtions of the seeker they keep on telling the Stories....And moresover I (Seeker) can not read what is written in those palm leives...:-) He changed min 2 sets of Nadis for my prediction(s)...later asked me to give me a Birth details from which he made the chart...and jotted down something in Tamil when i asked and came to know about the details It is nothing But normal prediction(s) 90% Past 10% future..!! that he mentioned..One more interesting thing is he asked me to perform a Pooja of Sri Subramanya..which cost only Rs 30/- then i said go-ahead he came

back with complete proposal in which it was mentioned 30 x 33 day poojas = 990.00 and only thing was they didn't mentioned the Service Tax:-)This is my actual experience with Bangalore based Nadi reader agast RegardsChand2Chill Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

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Dear Vijay ji, It appears that I have visited the one you are mentioning being near Oracle and Arunodaya. I used to work in Oracle for a long time. I know his place. I went to this guy about 15 years back. I must admit that my experience was horrible. At the end I could clearly make out that it was all gimmik and no truth. I could be wrong. But, that was my experience. I don't know anything about the HAL person. Regards, KrishnaVijayanarasimha H Pakka <hpvijaynarasimha wrote: Dear Krishnaji,I am currently in UK and have left his address in my room back in Bangalore. But I shall give you an informal address as of now, plz give me a week's time to ask someone back home to look at the address. I suppose you might be knowing oracle office on hosur road, just by the side of it is the famous arunodaya choultry. If you stand exactly in front of arunodaya (this choultry is on a side road) you can see a small road leading directly to this nadi astrologer. Basically once to go near arunodaya, anyone on the road can direct you to this guy. He follows agastya rishi nadi. I had been to another guy who lives on a service road by the airport road (HAL layout). He is the more famous guy in bangalore, but I felt he is too lazy to give appointments and definitely tried to fool me with the readings. I shall get you the full address and ph nos of these two guys soon. Regards,VijayKrishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 > wrote: Vijay ji,Can you please give the details of this nadi reader? I live in Bangalore.Regards,KrishnaVijayanarasimha H Pakka <hpvijaynarasimha > wrote:Dear Suniji,Thnx for the info for the general public. I have been to a couple of nadi astrologers in Bangalore. 1st person was recommended by my relative to be quite accurate. I was shell shocked to hear him say many of my personal details. They were so accurate that I began doubting if my relative had mentioned all my details to him beforehand. He even mentioned about my last birth, from which the reason why I was suffering in some aspects of life were clearly correlating.The doubt I have is, How do they match our fingerprints with the bundle of leaves. Does the

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Dear chandu ji, My experience was similar to yours. We might have visited the same guy. You said: "The Reader kept on asking me questions with some initial letters...like is your name Name starts with...Sha...Sa...Kha...ga...etc.. and..." I too got through this series of questions. I was very careful in answering to his questions. I wanted to test how much of what we tell is used to get the name right. I was very brief, not divulging anything extra, as far as possible stuck to 'yes' or 'no' type of answers. He took quite a lot of time to get to my name and that too it was only after I answered his question "If my name represents Vaishnavaite God or Shivite God?" Before that he had asked me if my name represents any God. With this kind of questions it is not difficult to arrive at my name 'Krishna'.

Similar things happened to find my fathers name etc. By that time I realized that it is a hoax. But, I paid his fee and walked out. Regards, Krishna

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Dear Krishnamurthy ji,I am sorry that you had a bad experience. Even I had great doubts regarding him estimating my name, I was frankly skeptical about that. But once he got the leaf, the things that were said in the leaf were virtually impossible to have been guessed. Similar was the case for 2 of my very close friends. We were shell-shocked to get such accuracy from just 1 leaf. He also mentioned that I was working in a research field analyzing some minute particles (I am working in molecular biology). I felt he is definitely better than the other guy (HAL). Regards,Vijay.Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: Dear Vijay ji, It appears that I have visited the one you are mentioning being near Oracle and Arunodaya. I used to work in Oracle for a long time. I know his place. I went to this guy about 15 years back. I must admit that my experience was horrible. At the end I could clearly make out that it was all gimmik and no truth. I could be wrong. But, that was my experience. I don't know anything about the HAL person. Regards, KrishnaVijayanarasimha H Pakka <hpvijaynarasimha > wrote: Dear Krishnaji,I am currently in UK and have left his address in my room back in Bangalore. But I shall give you an informal address as of now, plz

give me a week's time to ask someone back home to look at the address. I suppose you might be knowing oracle office on hosur road, just by the side of it is the famous arunodaya choultry. If you stand exactly in front of arunodaya (this choultry is on a side road) you can see a small road leading directly to this nadi astrologer. Basically once to go near arunodaya, anyone on the road can direct you to this guy. He follows agastya rishi nadi. I had been to another guy who lives on a service road by the airport road (HAL layout). He is the more famous guy in bangalore, but I felt he is too lazy to give appointments and definitely tried to fool me with the readings. I shall get you the full address and ph nos of these two guys soon. Regards,VijayKrishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > wrote: Vijay ji,Can you

please give the details of this nadi reader? I live in Bangalore.Regards,KrishnaVijayanarasimha H Pakka <hpvijaynarasimha > wrote:Dear Suniji,Thnx for the info for the general public. I have been to a couple of nadi astrologers in Bangalore. 1st person was recommended by my relative to be quite accurate. I was shell shocked to hear him say many of my personal details. They were so accurate that I began doubting if my relative had mentioned all my details to him beforehand. He even mentioned about my last birth, from which the reason why I was suffering in some aspects of life were clearly correlating.The doubt I have is, How do they match our fingerprints with the bundle of leaves. Does the bundle contain a similar fingerprint? Regards,Vijay. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.

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Tiruvanikkovil at Mambazhasalai in Trichi is the only place I found to

be genuine. They took thumb impression and the first letter of father's

name. After half an hour checking for leaves they told that the leaf is

not available. They did not try to play a fraud on me.

 

I have visited few guys in Madurai, Chennai, Vaideesvaran kovil - all

were frauds. I offered many to work out their charts if they answered

the questions raised by them. Day birth, night birth, Cara rasi, Sthira

rasi, no of brothers, sisters, name etc all they figure out in the

process of trial and error reading. Chennai Agasthya nadi must be known

to many people.

 

chandra hari

 

 

, " panditarjun2004 "

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear friends

>

> what chandrahariji said is true. some nadi readers asks you minutest

> micro level details and collect all details of you, prepare your

> biodata and present it to you and you are flabberghasted. then they

> ask you to go for sookshma reading for each area of life and there

> too you are asked 1001 minutest mirco level details and then give

> some logical predictions and the thrust is majorly on the pariharams.

>

> out of curiosity i visited agastya, kausika and mahasiva nadis in

> three different places. surprisingly all the three gave correct past

> and present details. however, all of them said ten things of future

> and none of them happened and rather completely opposite things

> happened in future, nay, all of them gave three different versions of

> the past and future births as well.

>

> since i am a healer, i could easily understand that they take the

> help of karnapisachi and also some other spirits which get the

> details of the native till that date including names of native and

> his or her kith and kin as well. all the three nadis i visited told

> that they are nonbrahmins and have the siddhis (spirit power) to find

> the details of the native.

>

> however, since few minority customers got their readings right, the

> craze for nadireading gained such momentum that these days some

> centres have come up in andhra pradesh where telugu written palm

> leavs of various nadis are purportedly discovered which were all

> written by sages thousands of years ago. if similar nadi palm leaves

> sprung up suddenly in bengali, punjabi and all other languages also,

> one shall not wonder.

>

> these days some nadireaders have kept receptionist and other support

> staff who mix with the customers by offering water and collect the

> problems faced by them and pass on the same to the nadireader.

>

> many believe that the nadileaf comes only out of destiny and many

> return without finding their leaf. i visited one nadi and he too

> could not find after which i told him that am leaving that city that

> evening as i came from different state and hence wont mind offering

> one thousand rupees instead of normal four hundred rupees if he could

> search thoroughly and find my leaf, lo he got it within few minutes.

>

> however, every thing is a matter of BLIND faith and those who believe

> in these nadi leaves may do so according their beliefs as much as the

> devotees of lord saibaba finding him sitting prettily on the moon.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

>

[Guest guest]

My experience was that they play a kind of guessing game with you.

We used to play such a game and I think it's name is 20 questions.

Where a person thinks of something and you ask 20 questions which

that person replies with yes or no to arrive at answer. Like is it

name of movie you are thinking, is it English Movie, is it telugu

movie, is it old movie etc to finally guess the name of movie.

 

So first the receptionist took thumb impression and sent it inside

to search for leaf. Since I had gone with my parents, we started

chatting about the problem due to which we were consulting the nadi

and the receptionist was obviously listening in to every word even

though pretending to read some register (he was not good actor). We

stopped immediately not divulging any personal details. After 40

minutes of suspense building, he said leaf not found but they will

search in other branches and so I should come after 2 weeks. We

said, did you look properly and he said that we are not greedy and

if not found we truthfully say so. On my parents telling that I was

from abroad and flying back and this being urgent and we would pay

double i.e. Rs. 1400 instead of their rate of Rs. 700, he searched

again and this time found the leaf in 7-8 minutes. One thing to

mention is that the " leaf found or not found " seemed to be giving

great suspense while waiting, fallen faces if not found or great joy

if found (some were coming for 3rd time and the branch searched this

time had yielded their leaf!!!).

 

So the person called inside and got out the booklet and started

reading in each leaf in some sing song tamil(???) with bland

face/expression and another would make show of asking questions.

Each think he told me took around 40-50 questions for him to figure

out. E.g. -

 

Do you have a sister and brother? No

Do you have a sister? No

Do you have 2 sisters? No

Do you have 3 brothers? No

......

Do you have one brother? Yes

Is your brother'name name of God? No

Is your brother elder? No

Is your brother's name 2 letter? No

Is your brother's name 3 letters? Yes

Is first letter of brother's name sa, ch, gh or na? No

Is first letter of brother's name pa, fa, ga or ma? No

Is first letter of brother's name a, ra, ta or ha? Yes

...........

Is first letter of brother's name a, ra? Yes

Is first letter of brother's name ra? No

Is first letter of brother's name a? Yes

Is brother's name Anil? No

Is brother's name Aneesh? No

Is brother's name Atul? Yes

.......................................

 

And the person observes your body language and if you lip sync the

entire name to count number of sylabels it has, he is trained to

catch such things. So in finally I was told some things about me

like I have one younger brother with name Atul. These questions

regarding brother were not one after another but interspersed with

other question like Is father in business? Is father in govt

service? etc etc which were then told to me finally so I was

supposed to jump with joy that my exact leaf found.

 

Then he asked for 2 weeks time to prepare casette about events and

took all money in advance. Casette contained same old past and

current events gleaned from me and none of future events came true.

 

When I went and told my experience to the people who had highly

recommended the nadi and experienced amazing readings, they finally

figured out that the first one had given most details idiotically in

the questions game. The rest were siblings. When you go, the first

thing the receptionist asks is who recommended us and what date they

had come so they take out that casette and booklet and so parent's

occupation, number of siblings etc are pat available to them

already. These are highly educated and intelligent people who were

then sitting and scratching their heads as to how they had been had.

 

There is nothing unnatural about wanting to know more about oneself

and it is present in everyone. Irrespective of whether one goes out

of curiosity (like general checkup to physician) or due to some

problem (like visit to doctor due to pain/illness), the doctor is

supposed to give value for money. The questioner has to give thumb

impression and that is it. Justification of quakes in any field even

in astrology is hardly any attitude of questions,

casual/serious/falling in nadi readers feet/whatever.

 

There may be good nadi readers but they are rare, many such nadi

astrologers pretending to have grabbed nadi leaves falling from

heavan abound so sharing my experience. Why God siting in heavan

wrote details like number of siblings, each one's good name, each

parents name and profession on leaves and threw them down I do not

know. Neither in palmistry nor astrology can people guess EXACT name

of mother, father, brother, sister....

 

Just to add, I then visited astrologer who took birth details and

gave very correct/true readings based on logical explanations of

houses, lords, karakas etc. Pretty much, most of what he predicted

came out to be true.

 

---

[Guest guest]

Chandrahariji,

 

Regarding thumb impression and other things, there is a book called on

Palmistry by William Hewitt -

There is a page written on shape of hand - he classifies it based on 4

combinations of hand - square/rectangular palm and short/long fingers

classifying people's palms as fire/air/water/earth.

I have tried this classification on 10-12 people with amazing accuracy.

 

Also there are some basic rules on major lines of palm - lifeline,

heart line and head line - and the predictions generalized are in many

cases okay.

 

Palmistry fails when we try to predict intricacies - for general

trends it is pretty ok.

 

Sorry for deviating from the group. Moderators, sorry!!

 

Thanks

Kiran

 

, " chandra_hari18 "

<chandra_hari18 wrote:

>

>

> Tiruvanikkovil at Mambazhasalai in Trichi is the only place I found to

> be genuine. They took thumb impression and the first letter of father's

> name. After half an hour checking for leaves they told that the leaf is

> not available. They did not try to play a fraud on me.

>

> I have visited few guys in Madurai, Chennai, Vaideesvaran kovil - all

> were frauds. I offered many to work out their charts if they answered

> the questions raised by them. Day birth, night birth, Cara rasi, Sthira

> rasi, no of brothers, sisters, name etc all they figure out in the

> process of trial and error reading. Chennai Agasthya nadi must be known

> to many people.

>

> chandra hari

>

>

> , " panditarjun2004 "

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > dear friends

> >

> > what chandrahariji said is true. some nadi readers asks you minutest

> > micro level details and collect all details of you, prepare your

> > biodata and present it to you and you are flabberghasted. then they

> > ask you to go for sookshma reading for each area of life and there

> > too you are asked 1001 minutest mirco level details and then give

> > some logical predictions and the thrust is majorly on the pariharams.

> >

> > out of curiosity i visited agastya, kausika and mahasiva nadis in

> > three different places. surprisingly all the three gave correct past

> > and present details. however, all of them said ten things of future

> > and none of them happened and rather completely opposite things

> > happened in future, nay, all of them gave three different versions of

> > the past and future births as well.

> >

> > since i am a healer, i could easily understand that they take the

> > help of karnapisachi and also some other spirits which get the

> > details of the native till that date including names of native and

> > his or her kith and kin as well. all the three nadis i visited told

> > that they are nonbrahmins and have the siddhis (spirit power) to find

> > the details of the native.

> >

> > however, since few minority customers got their readings right, the

> > craze for nadireading gained such momentum that these days some

> > centres have come up in andhra pradesh where telugu written palm

> > leavs of various nadis are purportedly discovered which were all

> > written by sages thousands of years ago. if similar nadi palm leaves

> > sprung up suddenly in bengali, punjabi and all other languages also,

> > one shall not wonder.

> >

> > these days some nadireaders have kept receptionist and other support

> > staff who mix with the customers by offering water and collect the

> > problems faced by them and pass on the same to the nadireader.

> >

> > many believe that the nadileaf comes only out of destiny and many

> > return without finding their leaf. i visited one nadi and he too

> > could not find after which i told him that am leaving that city that

> > evening as i came from different state and hence wont mind offering

> > one thousand rupees instead of normal four hundred rupees if he could

> > search thoroughly and find my leaf, lo he got it within few minutes.

> >

> > however, every thing is a matter of BLIND faith and those who believe

> > in these nadi leaves may do so according their beliefs as much as the

> > devotees of lord saibaba finding him sitting prettily on the moon.

> >

> > with best wishes and blessings

> > pandit arjun

> >

>

[Guest guest]

dear nadiresearch my experience was totally different. the nadi astrologer took only thumb impression he did not ask for dob etc., he told my father's name very accurate - he told the name as ramaswamy - but the leave he has shown me the name written as "athan paer marasamye endru kooruvai" - actually narada while narrating Lord Rama's name to Valmiki he said it is Mara due to a curse. he did nt ask questions like this - he was opening the leaf and tell parents name - if wrong he goes to the next one. if father name is correct he will then read further then tell mothers name. finally the birth year in tamil. if all three are positive then he will start to read. i myself had seen the leaf - the names. when he read further in the leaf my job - the status there - my sisters and brother etc were told correctly. he didnt ask nor did i tell him. This is in

Palani as well as in Trichy Agasthyar Nadi. from so many peoples experience it is difficult to say who is genuine who is fake. you can very well ask them to show the leaf.nadiresearch <nadiresearch wrote: My experience was that they play a kind of guessing game with you. We used to play such a game and I think it's name is 20 questions. Where a person thinks of something and you ask 20 questions which that person replies with yes or no to

arrive at answer. Like is it name of movie you are thinking, is it English Movie, is it telugu movie, is it old movie etc to finally guess the name of movie. So first the receptionist took thumb impression and sent it inside to search for leaf. Since I had gone with my parents, we started chatting about the problem due to which we were consulting the nadi and the receptionist was obviously listening in to every word even though pretending to read some register (he was not good actor). We stopped immediately not divulging any personal details. After 40 minutes of suspense building, he said leaf not found but they will search in other branches and so I should come after 2 weeks. We said, did you look properly and he said that we are not greedy and if not found we truthfully say so. On my parents telling that I was from abroad and flying back and this being urgent and we would pay double i.e. Rs. 1400 instead of

their rate of Rs. 700, he searched again and this time found the leaf in 7-8 minutes. One thing to mention is that the "leaf found or not found" seemed to be giving great suspense while waiting, fallen faces if not found or great joy if found (some were coming for 3rd time and the branch searched this time had yielded their leaf!!!). So the person called inside and got out the booklet and started reading in each leaf in some sing song tamil(???) with bland face/expression and another would make show of asking questions. Each think he told me took around 40-50 questions for him to figure out. E.g. -Do you have a sister and brother? NoDo you have a sister? NoDo you have 2 sisters? NoDo you have 3 brothers? No.....Do you have one brother? YesIs your brother'name name of God? NoIs your brother elder? NoIs your brother's name 2 letter? NoIs your brother's name 3 letters? YesIs first

letter of brother's name sa, ch, gh or na? NoIs first letter of brother's name pa, fa, ga or ma? NoIs first letter of brother's name a, ra, ta or ha? Yes..........Is first letter of brother's name a, ra? YesIs first letter of brother's name ra? NoIs first letter of brother's name a? YesIs brother's name Anil? NoIs brother's name Aneesh? NoIs brother's name Atul? Yes......................................And the person observes your body language and if you lip sync the entire name to count number of sylabels it has, he is trained to catch such things. So in finally I was told some things about me like I have one younger brother with name Atul. These questions regarding brother were not one after another but interspersed with other question like Is father in business? Is father in govt service? etc etc which were then told to me finally so I was supposed to jump with joy that my exact

leaf found.Then he asked for 2 weeks time to prepare casette about events and took all money in advance. Casette contained same old past and current events gleaned from me and none of future events came true.When I went and told my experience to the people who had highly recommended the nadi and experienced amazing readings, they finally figured out that the first one had given most details idiotically in the questions game. The rest were siblings. When you go, the first thing the receptionist asks is who recommended us and what date they had come so they take out that casette and booklet and so parent's occupation, number of siblings etc are pat available to them already. These are highly educated and intelligent people who were then sitting and scratching their heads as to how they had been had.There is nothing unnatural about wanting to know more about oneself and it is present in everyone. Irrespective

of whether one goes out of curiosity (like general checkup to physician) or due to some problem (like visit to doctor due to pain/illness), the doctor is supposed to give value for money. The questioner has to give thumb impression and that is it. Justification of quakes in any field even in astrology is hardly any attitude of questions, casual/serious/falling in nadi readers feet/whatever.There may be good nadi readers but they are rare, many such nadi astrologers pretending to have grabbed nadi leaves falling from heavan abound so sharing my experience. Why God siting in heavan wrote details like number of siblings, each one's good name, each parents name and profession on leaves and threw them down I do not know. Neither in palmistry nor astrology can people guess EXACT name of mother, father, brother, sister....Just to add, I then visited astrologer who took birth details and gave very

correct/true readings based on logical explanations of houses, lords, karakas etc. Pretty much, most of what he predicted came out to be true. ---

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[Guest guest]

Dear Venkat,

 

Thanks for your email.

 

Yes, I completely agree that it is difficult to say who is genuine and who

is fake till you yourself go and exprerience but by that time you have paid to

get conned!

 

The particular nadi astrologer place I went to last year was like this and

further, to let you know, it is in Lajpat Nagar, New Delhi. They also have a

branch in Faridabad in Delhi itself and some other places outside Delhi. Don't

remember exact address but only one in these areas.

 

In my case also procedure was same as yours - when one gives thumb impression,

it is sent inside by the receptionist to search for your " leaf bundle " . Once

found, you go in and he reads statements from leaf which you then confirm or

deny (I wrote in question form in my previous post because ultimately he is

looking for confirmation means similar to 20 questions game... ). Like your

father's name has 2 syllables. If you deny, he will keep this leaf and pick next

one in the bundle. If you confirm, he will read next statement from same leaf.

If all statements of that leaf are true means that is your leaf. You can rest

assured that the cons will learn and follow the regular procedure like true blue

nadi astrologer. The question session with this con took one and half tiring

hours. Mainly, if my name was Rama Krishna or elder brother's name Sai Krishna

or younger brother's name Maruthi (which he asked initially - finally made

statement like your name is based on God and when

I replied in negative, he stopped taking such names and changed tactics to how

many letters and is starting letter this or that ), I am sure " my leaf " would

have been found soon enough but our parents giving us non-God based names made

the guy work hard for his money .

 

I think the procedure followed by Nadi has been dicussed but not really the

principal behind it. If I missed an email, my apologies in advance and please

just forward me that email if possible.

 

In case of dob, etc based astrology, there are principles and rules and logic.

An astrologer in Andhra can correctly give reading irrespective of someone from

Kashmir or Kanya kumari going to him as long as they have correct dob, pob and

tob. If I take this information from a white man in Australia or black man in

London, I am sure that they will be surprised and delighted to discover that

events of their life happened as per dashas and transits like material expansion

during their Rahu dasha or life moving in slow motion during Shani dasha etc. It

is universally applicable.

 

What is the theory behind nadi? What I understood from Nadi people I visited

was that the sages/Gods were writing everyone's destiny on leaves with

predicted/future thumb impression as index/unique identifier and accidentally

their elbow hit the pile and some fell to earth and so not everyone's nadi can

be found - only those few which the God " mistakenly " let fall (and ofcourse

never bothered to reach out and grab back inspite of being God)!

 

Since their God was writing in Tamil and not Sanskrit, English, etc, seems

that somebody with name John Smith or father's name Jim Smowtsky or brother's

name Anupam Arora or sister's name Meena Bhattacharya will never have a nadi

leaf or prediction. Unless they sit for atleast a couple of days playing the

game.

 

Do you happen to know what is the basis behind the nadi astrology stream?

 

R Venkat <rdjvenkat wrote:

dear nadiresearch

 

my experience was totally different. the nadi astrologer took only thumb

impression he did not ask for dob etc., he told my father's name very accurate -

he told the name as ramaswamy - but the leave he has shown me the name written

as " athan paer marasamye endru kooruvai " - actually narada while narrating Lord

Rama's name to Valmiki he said it is Mara due to a curse.

 

he did nt ask questions like this - he was opening the leaf and tell parents

name - if wrong he goes to the next one. if father name is correct he will then

read further then tell mothers name. finally the birth year in tamil. if all

three are positive then he will start to read. i myself had seen the leaf - the

names. when he read further in the leaf my job - the status there - my sisters

and brother etc were told correctly. he didnt ask nor did i tell him. This is

in Palani as well as in Trichy Agasthyar Nadi.

 

from so many peoples experience it is difficult to say who is genuine who is

fake.

 

you can very well ask them to show the leaf.