Nadi amsa chart

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Hare rama krishna

dear grp .

This is part of nadi literature and this is dealt is detail with chandra kala nadi ( deva keralam ) tho some diffrnce in opinon abt calculation is there .

I dont know the nadi palm leaf readers are using it but the real nadi literature and technics revolvs around this amsas .

for those who wanted to know more abt it U can refer sri KN raojis book "planets and children " and there i think a seperate chapter deal with How his own nadi (of sri rao ji ) read by sri B V raman ji ( tru druva nadi ( a nadi in his possession ) } is wel explained .So he was using nadi amsas to determine and correct the birth time of sri raoji and some explanation and his future was given in it .

 

 

 

 

 

Nadi Amsha Chart

 

 

This article was published in "The Times of Astrology" magazine, New Delhi in April 2005.

Introduction

The Rashi is divided into several divisions such as Hora (1/2), Drekkana (1/3), Chaturtamsa ( 1/4), Panchamsa (1/5), Shastamsa ( 1/6), Saptamsa (1/7), Ashtamsa (1/8), Navamsha ( 1/9), Dashamsa (1/10), Dwadashamsa ( 1/12), Shodashamsa ( 1/16), Vimshamsa 91/20), Siddhamsa (1/24), Bhamsa (1/27), Trimshamsa (1/30), Khavedamsa (1/40), Akshavedamsa ( 1/40), Shastiamsa ( 1/60, Navamsha-Navamsha ( 1/81), Navamsha-Dwadashamsa ( 1/108) etc, representing different aspects of life. It is known how to prepare these different divisional charts though with some differences in the approach. But there is no published literature for the correct utilization of these charts in interpreting the results. Nadi Amsha is the subtlest in the division of the Rashi. Some of the published literature on Nadi amshas has given the results. But nowhere it is published how to prepare the Nadi amsha chart and to interpret the results.

In this article is given the explanation of the Nadi amshas, methodology to prepare the Nadi amsha chart and interpretation of Nadi amsha chart, out of my research.

Nadi Amshas

By now, most of the readers know what is a Nadi amsha. However, for the benefit of others, a Nadi amsha is 1/150th part of a rashi. The 30 degrees of rashi divided by 150 would give 12 minutes of arc (30 degrees multiplied by 60 and divided by 150 is equal to 12 minutes). Thus there are 150 Nadi amshas in a rashi and each Nadi amsha is of 12 minutes arc. If, on an average, 2 hours duration is taken for each rashi, it amounts to 48 seconds in time duration (2 hours multiplied by 3600 and divided by 150 is equal to 48 seconds). These Nadi amshas are given different names to recognize their interval periods.

The Nadi amshas are numbered in clockwise direction in moveable rashis from beginning to end of rashi. In fixed rashis they begin from end to beginning of rashi anti-clockwise. In dual rashis, they begin from middle of rashi, to the end of rashi then continue from beginning of rashi and counted upto the middle of rashi. For example, in Aries moveable rashi, the 1st Nadi amsha, named Vasudha, is from 0 degrees to 0 degrees 12 minutes, the 2nd Nadi amsha is from 0 degrees 12 minutes to 0degrees 24 minutes and so on till the 150th Nadi amsha is from 29 degrees 48 minutes to 30 degrees. In Taurus fixed rashi, the 1st Nadi amsha of Vasudha is from 29 degrees 48 minutes to 30 degrees, the 2nd one from 29 degrees 36 minutes to 29 degrees 48 minutes and so on till the last 150th Nadi amsha is from 0 degrees to 0 degrees 12 minutes. In Gemini dual rashi, the 1st Nadi amsha of Vasudha is from the middle 15 degrees to 15 degrees 12 minutes, the 2nd one from 15 degrees 12 minutes to 15 degrees 24 minutes and so on till the 75th Nadi amsha is from 29 degrees 48 minutes to 30 degrees and then the 76th Nadi amsha starts from the beginning of 0 degrees to 0 degrees 12 minutes, the 77th from 0 degrees 12 minutes to 0 degrees 24 minutes and so on till the 150th one is from 14 degrees 48 minutes to 15 degrees. Thus it can be seen that 1st Nadi amsha in Aries, the 150th Nadi amsha in Taurus and the 76th Nadi amsha in Gemini are the same. But it does not seem logical to apply this to all moveable, fixed and dual rashis. There are four sets of moveable, fixed and dual rashis in the zodiac. They are Aries-Taurus-Gemini, Cancer-Leo-Virgo, Libra-Scorpio-Sagittarius, and Capricorn-Aquarius-Pisces. The above logic applies only within each set. The 1st Nadi amsha of Cancer, 150th Nadi amsha of Leo, the 76th Nadi amsha of Virgo would be the same. The 1st Nadi amsha of Libra, the 150th Nadi amsha of Scorpio, the 76th Nadi amsha of Sagittarius would-be the same. The 1st Nadi amsha of Capricorn, the 150th Nadi amsha of Aquarius, the 76th adi amsha of Pisces would be the same.

Table of Nadi Amshas

For ready reference, the table of Nadi amshas is given in Appendix I to this article, as taken from my article " A Note on Nadi amshas" published by " Vedic Astrology" magazine November-December 1998. The list is also given the in the book " Devakeralam" by late Sri R. Shantanam and in " The Astrological Magazine" of late Sri B. V. Raman. The names of the Nadi amshas may differ but the duration of the intervals are the same in all the sources.

Preperation of Nadi Amshas Chart

Before preparing the Nadi amsha chart, it is essential to rectify the given birth time as per my article " Tatwa/Antartatwa Siddhata-Birth Rectification" published in " The Times of Astrology" magazine June 2002. This method would rectify the birth time to match the male / female births as per the day, lagna, and Moon star and tatwa upto a difference of 24 seconds in birthtime.

An attempt is made here from fundamentals of explanation of Nadi amshas to give a methodology to prepare a Nadi amsha chart for different sets moveable, fixed and dual rashis. Moveable Rashis In moveable rashis, the Nadi amshas are counted clockwise from the beginning to the end of the rashi. Hence in Aries moveable rashi, the 1st Nadi amsha falls in Aries itself, the 2nd I Taurus, the 3rd in Gemini and so on till the 150thfall in Virgo. In Cancer moveable rashi, the 1st Nadi amsha falls in Cancer, the 2nd in Leo, the 3rd in Virgo and so on till the last 150th falls in Sagittarius. In Libra moveable rashi, the 1st Nadi amsha falls in Libra, the 2nd in Scorpio, the 3rd in Sagittarius and so on till the 150th falls in Pisces. In Capricorn moveable rashi, the 1st Nadi amsha falls in Capricorn, the 2nd in Aquarius, the 3rd in Pisces and so on till the 150th falls in Gemini. That means, if Ascendant (lagna) or any other planet in rashi chart in Aries rashi is in 1st Nadi amsha of 0 degrees to 0 degrees 12 minutes, it falls in Aries rashi itself in Nadi amsha chart, if from 0-12 to 0-24 it falls in Taurus in Nadi chart, and so on till if it is between 29-48 to 39 degrees it should be place in Virgo in Nadi chart. Similarly the ascendant or any other planet in Cancer, Libra or Capricorn in rashi chart should be place in Nadi chart depending on the degrees and minutes in rashi chart and the number of the Nadi amsha. Fixed Rashis In fixed rashis, the Nadi amshas are counted anti-clockwise from the end to the beginning of the rashi. In Taurus fixed rashi, the 1st Nadi amsha of 29-48 to 30 degrees is the same as the 150th Nadi amsha of 29-48 to 30 degrees in Aries moveable rashi. The 150th Nadi amsha in Taurus from 0 degrees to 0-0:12 is the same as the 1srt Nadi amsha of 0 degrees to 0-0:12 in Aries. As already explained above, 150th Nadi amsha of Aries falls in Virgo and 1st falls in Aries. Therefore, the 1st Nadi amsha of Taurus should start from Virgo and go anti-clockwise, the 2nd from 29-36 to 29-48 in Leo and so on till the 150th of 0 degrees to 0-0:12 falls in Aries. Suppose if ascendant or any planet id in 10 -58 in Taurus, it falls in the 96th Nadi amsha in Taurus from 10-48 to 11 degrees and so count 96 anti-clockwise from Virgo, which would be Libra. Therefore, the ascendant or any planet in 10-58 in Taurus in rashi chart should be placed in Libra in Nadi amsha chart.

Similarly in the second set of moveable-fixed-dual rashis of Cancer-Leo-Virgo, the 1st Nadi amsha of Leo is the same as the 1450th Nadi amsha of Cancer. The 150th Nadi amsha of cancer if Sagittarius. So the counting of Nadi amshas in Leo should start from Sagittarius anti-clockwise. If the ascendant or any planet is in 20-51 in Leo, it falls in the 46th Nadi amsha of 20-28 to 21degrees and so count 46 anti-clockwise from Sagittarius, which would be Pisces. Therefore, the ascendant or any planet in 20-51 in Leo in rashi chart should be place in Pisces in Nadi amsha chart.

Similarly in the third set of Libra-Scorpio-Sagittarius, the 150th Nadi amsha of Libra falls in Pisces and so the counting for Nadi amshas in Scorpio should start from Pisces anti-clockwise. F ascendant or any planet is in 10-58 in Scorpio, which would be the 96th Nadi amsha and so count 96 anti-clockwise from Pisces, which would be Aries. Therefore, the ascendant or any planet in 10-58 in Scorpio in rashi chart should be placed in Aries in Nadi amsha chart.

Similarly in the fourth set of Capricorn-Aquarius-Pisces, the counting for Nadi amshas in Aquarius shold start form Gemini which is the 150th in Capricorn. If ascendant or any planet were in 24-40 in Aquarius, it would be in 27th Nadi amsha and so count 27 anti-clockwise from Gemini, which would be Aries. Therefore the ascendant or any planet in 24-40 in Aquarius in rashi chart should be placed in Aries in Nadi amsha chart.

Thus the crux is that if the ascendant of any planet is in Taurus, the counting of Nadi amsha of that should start from Virgo anti-clockwise, if in Leo start counting from Sagittarius anti-clockwise, if in Scorpio start counting from Pisces anti-clockwise and if in Aquarius start counting from Gemini anti-clockwise. Dual Rashis In dual rashis, the Nadi amshas are counted clockwise from the middle to the end of the rashi and then counting continued from the beginning to the middle of the rashi. In Gemini dual rashi, the 1st Nadi amsha of 15 to 15-12 is the same as the 76th Nadi amsha of 15 to 15-12 in Aries moveable rashi. The 75th Nadi amsha of Gemini from 29-48 to 30 degrees is same as the 150th in Aries. The 76th Nadi amsha in Gemini from 0 degrees to 0-12 is same as the 1srt in Aries. The 150th Nadi amsha in Gemini from 14-48 to 15 degrees is same as the 75th in Aries. As already seen in Aries, the 76th Nadi amsha falls in Cancer, the 150th in Virgo, and the 1srt in Aries and the 75th in Gemini. So the 1st Nadi amsha in Gemini should fall in Cancer, 75th in Virgo, 76th in Aries and 150th in Gemini. So the counting of Nadi amshas in Gemini should start form Cancer clockwise from the 1srt Nadi amsha till the 75th in Virgo. The 76th in Gemini should start clockwise from Aries till the 150th in Gemini. Suppose the ascendant or any planet is in 18-27 in Gemini, it falls in the 18th Nadi amsha in Gemini from 18-24 to18-36 and so count 18 clockwise from Cancer, which would be Sagittarius. Therefore, the ascendant or any planet in 18-27 in Gemini in rashi chart should be placed in Sagittarius in Nadi chart. Suppose the ascendant or any planet is in 1-10 in Gemini, it falls in the 82nd Nadi amsha in Gemini from 1 degree to 1-12 and so count 82 clockwise from Aries taking 76 as Aries, which would be Virgo. Therefore the ascendant or any planet in 1-10 in Gemini in rashi chart should be placed in Virgo in Nadi chart.

Similarly in the second set of moveable-fixed-dual rashis of Cancer-Leo-Virgo, the 1st Nadi amsha in Virgo is same as the 76th in Cancer, 75th in Virgo is same as 150th in Cancer, 76th in Virgo is same as 1st in Cancer and the 150th in Virgo is same as the 75th in Cancer. The 76th in Cancer falls in Libra. O the counting of Nadi amshas in Virgo should start from Libra clockwise till the 75th falls in Sagittarius. The 76th in Virgo should start clockwise from Cancer till the 150th in Virgo. Suppose if the ascendant or any planet is in 18-27 in Virgo, it falls in the 18th Nadi amsha in Virgo, and to count 18 from Libra clockwise, which would e Pisces. Therefore the ascendant or any planet in 18-27 in Virgo in rashi chart should be placed in Pisces in Nadi chart.

Suppose the ascendant or any planet is in 1-10 in Virgo, it falls in the 82nf Nadi amsha in Virgo and so count 82 clockwise from Cancer taking 76 as Cancer, which would be Sagittarius. Therefore the ascendant or any planet in 1-10 in Virgo in rashi chart should be place in Sagittarius in Nadi chart.

Similarly in the third set of Libra-Scorpio-Sagittarius, the 1st Nadi amsha in Sagittarius is same as the 76th in Libra, the 75th in Sagittarius is same as 150th in Libra, 76th in Sagittarius is same as 1st in Libra and the 150th in Sagittarius is same s 75th in Libra. The 76th in Libra falls in Capricorn. So the counting of Nadi amshas in Sagittarius from 1st to 75th should start clockwise from Capricorn till the 75th in Pisces. The 76th Sagittarius should start clockwise from Libra till the 150th in Sagittarius. Suppose if the ascendant or any planet is in 18-27 in Sagittarius, it falls in the 18th Nadi amsha of Sagittarius and so count 18 from Capricorn clockwise, which would be Gemini. Therefore the ascendant or any planet in Sagittarius in 18-27 in rashi chart should be placed in Gemini in Nadi chart. Suppose if the ascendant or any planet is in 1-10 in Sagittarius, it falls in 82nd Nadi amsha in Sagittarius and so count 82from Libra clockwise taking 786 as Libra, which would be Pisces and therefore should be place n Pisces in Nadi chart.

Similarly in the fourth set of Capricorn-Aquarius-Pisces, the counting of Nadi amshas in Pisces from 1st to 75th should start from Aries clockwise till the 75th falls in Gemini. The 76th Nadi amsha in Pisces should start clockwise from Capricorn till the 150th falls in Pisces. Therefore the ascendant or any planet in 23-51 in Pisces falls in 45th Nadi amsha in Pisces from 23-48 to 2 degrees. So count 45 from Aries clockwise, which would be Sagittarius and therefore should be placed in Sagittarius in Nadi chart. If ascendant or any planet is in 1-10 in Pisces, it falls in 82nd Nadi amsha in Pisces and so count 82 from Capricorn clockwise taking 76th as Capricorn, which would be Gemini and therefore should be placed in Gemini in Nadi chart.

Example of nadi Chart

Based on the above methodology, the Nadi chart is given below for the ascendant and planets in rashi chart.

Rasi Chart: Libra-Ascendant 5-54, Venus 7-4, Rahu 27-16; Capricorn- moon 20-9; Aquarius- Jupiter 2-7; Pisces- Saturn 23-51; Aries- Ketu 27-16; Leo- Mercury 5-59, Mars 6-33, Sun 20-51

Nadi Chart: Pisces-Ascendant, Sun, Mars; Taurus-Moon; Leo- Ketu; Virgo-Venus; Scorpio- Jupiter; Sagittarius-Mercury, Saturn; Aquarius-Rahu

Interpretation of nadi Chart

The person of the above rashi chart is a mechanical engineer retired from Government Defense Research service. After retirement he continued his hobby of astrology doing researh, writing articles, giving lectures and consultations, getting awards in astrology. He also knows Vedanta and Veena musical instrument to some extent. He has own house and vehicles. He ahs only one son settled abroad. He lives on pension I his own house with his wife studying astrology and Vedanta. He also travels in India and abroad. He ahs moderate health.

The above rashi and Nadi charts are broadly analyzed to check which one would give better interpretation.

In the rashi chart, the 10th house is vacant aspected by the 10th lord Moon. The 10th lords in 4th alone in Moon star without any aspects from any other planet. From this, it is difficult to interpret his activities in Defence research, astrology and Vedanta. Venus in Libra ascendant in own house has not given any proficiency in his musical interests. The Moon in 4th, the 4th not aspected by any planet ad the 4th lord Saturn in 6th house aspected by Mars should have obstructed having his own house, vehicles and education. Jupiter in 5th ouse aspected by Sun, Mercury and Mars and the 5th lord Saturn in 6th house with exchange (parivartana) with Jupiter should have given more children. The 2nd lord Mars, 9th lord Mercury and 11th lord Sun in 11th should have given big wealth and prosperity. Ascendant lord Venus in the ascendant and 6th lord Jupiter In 5th with exchange with Saturn should have given good health. The 9th and 12th lord Mercury with enemy mars should have obstructed his travels.

In the Nadi chart, Saturn and Mercury in 10th house, 10th and 1st lord Jupiter in Scorpio of Mars with exchange with Mars would give better interpretation about his activities in Defense research, astrology and Vedanta. Debilitated Venus has not given much progress in musical pursuits. The 4th house aspected by 4th lord Mercury, 2nd and 9th lord mars, 11th lord Saturn has given good house, vehicles and education. The 5th house aspected by Jupiter and 5th lord Moon exalted has given one son. The 2nd and 9th lord Mars in ascendant associated with 6th lord Sun and 11th and 12th lord Saturn have given moderate wealth and prosperity. The 6th lord Sun in ascendant aspected by 8th lord debilitated Venus has given moderate health though ascendant lord Jupiter aspecting the ascendant. Jupiter in 9th and 9th lord Mars in ascendant with exchange with ascendant lord Jupiter and 12th aspected by 11th and 12th lord Saturn has given the travels.

The transits of planets in both the charts can also be compared to check the results though it is not done here.

Thus from the above broad analysis the Nadi chart gives better interpretation than the rashi chart.

Conclusion

Since the Nadi amshas differentiate upto 48 seconds in birth time, it is the subtlest available means to interpret better results. When there is no published literature to correctly interpret the all the other known divisional charts, particularly whether lordship of houses can be taken or not in the divisional charts, it is not claimed that the analysis of the Nadi chart as given above is correct. It is also not claimed that the above methodology to prepare the Nadi chart is correct. The idea is writing this article is to stimulate the experts astrology to come out with better research to delve deep into this subject to interpret better results by studying all the divisional charts including the subtlest Nadi amsha chart and to publish the same for the benefit of others. The subject of astrology is already having its natural death with superficial knowledge and interpretations of commercial interest and without any deep research and published literature. It is an earnest request once again to all the astrologers and other government and private organizations to do deep research in astrology and publish the same to revive this great Divine subject.

Appendix I

Nadi Amshas and their Order in Various Rashis

The following table is attached to my article "A Note on Nadi Amshas" by the magazine "Vedic astrology" on their own. It is likely that the names may differ by some others.

Note: 1 represents 0 degrees to 0 degrees 12 minutes, 2 represents 0 degrees 12 minutes to 0 degrees 24 minutes etc till 150 represents 29 degrees 48 minutes to 30 degrees, thus each nadi amsha increasing by 0 degrees 12 minutes.

 

 

 

Nadi Amsha

Moveable rashi

Fixed rashi

Duel rashi

 

Vasudhaa

1

150

76

 

Vaishnavi

2

149

77

 

Braahmi

3

148

78

 

Kaalakoota

4

147

79

 

Shaankari

5

146

80

 

Sudhaakari

6

145

81

 

Samaa

7

144

82

 

Saumyaa

8

143

83

 

Suraa

9

142

84

 

Maayaa

10

141

85

 

Manoharaa

11

140

86

 

Maadhavi

12

139

87

 

Manjuswanaa

13

138

88

 

Ghoraa

14

137

89

 

Kumbhini

15

136

90

 

Kutilaa

16

135

91

 

Prabhaa

17

134

92

 

Paraa

18

133

93

 

Payasvini

19

132

94

 

Maalaa

20

131

95

 

Jagati

21

130

96

 

Jarjharaa

22

129

97

 

Dhruvaa

23

128

98

 

Musalaa

24

127

99

 

Mudgaraa

25

126

100

 

Paashaa

26

125

101

 

Champakaa

27

124

102

 

Daamakaa(Daamini)

28

123

103

 

Mahi

29

122

104

 

Kulashaa

30

121

105

 

Kamalaa

31

120

106

 

Kaantaa

32

119

107

 

Kaalaa

33

118

108

 

Karikaraa

34

117

109

 

Kahamaa

35

116

110

 

Durdharaa

36

115

111

 

Durbhagaa

37

114

112

 

Vishwaa

38

113

113

 

Visheernaa

39

112

114

 

Vikataa

40

111

115

 

Avilaa

41

110

116

 

Vibhramaa

42

109

117

 

Sukhadaa

43

108

118

 

Snigdhaa

44

107

119

 

Sodaraa

45

106

120

 

Surasundari

46

105

121

 

Amritaplaavini

47

104

122

 

Kaalaa

48

103

123

 

Kaamadhuk

49

102

124

 

Karaveerani

50

101

125

 

Gahvaraa

51

100

126

 

Kundini

52

99

127

 

Raudraa

53

98

128

 

Vishaakhyaa

54

97

129

 

Vishanaashini

55

96

130

 

Narmadaa

56

95

131

 

Sheetalaa

57

94

132

 

Nimnaa

58

93

133

 

Preetaa

59

92

134

 

Priyavardhini

60

91

135

 

Maanaghnaa

61

90

136

 

Durbhagaa

62

89

137

 

Chiraa

63

88

138

 

Chitrini

64

87

139

 

Chiranjeevini

65

86

140

 

Bhoopaa

66

85

141

 

Gakaharaa

67

84

142

 

Naalaa

68

83

143

 

Nalini

69

82

144

 

Nirmalaa

70

81

145

 

Nadi

71

80

146

 

Sudhaamritaamshu

72

79

147

 

Kaalikaa

73

78

148

 

Kalushankuraa

74

77

149

 

Trailokyamohankari

75

76

150

 

Mahaamaari

76

75

1

 

Susheetalaa

77

74

2

 

Sukhadaa

78

73

3

 

Suprabhaa

79

72

4

 

Shobhaa

80

71

5

 

Shobhanaa

81

70

6

 

Shivadaa

82

69

7

 

Shivaa

83

68

8

 

Balaa

84

67

9

 

Jwaalaa

85

66

10

 

Gadaa

86

65

11

 

Gaadhaa

87

64

12

 

Nootanaa

88

63

13

 

Sumanoharaa

89

62

14

 

Somavalli

90

61

15

 

Somalataa

91

60

16

 

Mangalaa

92

9

17

 

Mudrikaa

93

58

18

 

Kshudhaa

94

57

19

 

Mokshaapavargaa

95

56

20

 

Balayaa

96

55

21

 

Navaneeta

97

54

22

 

Nishaachari

98

53

23

 

Nirritti

99

52

24

 

Nigadaa

100

51

25

 

Saraa

101

50

26

 

Sangeetaa

102

49

27

 

Saamadaa

103

48

28

 

Samaa

104

47

29

 

Viwhwambharaa

105

46

30

 

Kumaari

106

45

31

 

Kokilaa

107

44

32

 

Kunjaraakriti

108

43

33

 

Aindraa

109

42

34

 

Swaahaa

110

41

35

 

Swaraa

111

40

36

 

Vahni

112

39

37

 

Preetaa

113

38

38

 

Rakshajalaaplavaa

114

37

39

 

Vaaruni

115

36

40

 

Madiraa

116

35

41

 

Maitri

117

34

42

 

Haarini

118

33

43

 

Harini

119

32

44

 

Marut

120

31

45

 

Dhananjayaa

121

30

46

 

Dhanakari

122

29

47

 

Dhanadaa

123

28

48

 

Kamchhapaambuja

124

27

49

 

Maamshaani

125

26

50

 

Shooeini

126

25

51

 

Raudri

127

24

52

 

Shivaa

128

23

53

 

Shivakari

129

22

54

 

Kalaa

130

21

55

 

Kundaa

131

20

56

 

Mukundaa

132

19

57

 

Bharataa

133

18

58

 

Haritaa

134

17

59

 

Kadalee

135

16

60

 

Smaraa

136

15

61

 

Kandalaa

137

14

62

 

Kokilaa

138

13

63

 

Paapaa

139

12

64

 

Kaamini

140

11

65

 

Kalashodbhavaa

141

10

66

 

Veeraprasoo

142

9

67

 

Sangaraa

143

8

68

 

Shatayajnaa

144

7

69

 

Shataavari

145

6

70

 

Prahvi

146

5

71

 

Paatalini

147

4

72

 

Naagaa

148

3

73

 

Pankajaa

149

2

74

 

Parameshwari

150

1

75

 

sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil,

The referred article on the Nadi Amsa is written by Mr. Rayudu, Ex. Director of DRDO, Hyderabad, and he happens to be a student of Dr. D.V. Subba Rao who was an excellent exponent of Nadi Astrology and has published about 9 books on the same, most of them are out of print. The last print has been some time 1970's. I know few people who have those books, including Mr. Rayudu, Hyderabad who is now into his 75+ yrs, tried many times with all incentives and begging tactics, many were NOT even agreed to show the book in their own house/home.....least we may steel the printed paper like a magician, such is the narrow mentality of the book possessors or owners. Did some charity work, in faint expectation to have a glance at it, however the charity was received very well, but on the book issue, got a same Antartic + Siberian Cold replies.

Interestingly, none in their families have any qualified astrologer who could have benefited from them. They would allow the termites to prey on them, but never even share or show or allow us to copy or.....etc..

When contacted the family members of Dr. D.V. Subba Rao, surprised to get a reply from an educated family that - Sri Subba Rao prior to his death, has declared based on his astrology, that he would be reborn and write much more,.....so do not reprint or distribute them further..... so similar to our some rigid religious intructions that there is NO further Guru after me..... type proclamations/declarations....

Mr. Rayudu boasts of his degrees & his official positions, but the same is not reflected in his outlook or decisions. They are a breed of yester generation. Moreover, he is NOT doing anything that would elevate his jyotish_guru stature in public. If he shares, he would doing a great service to his jyotish_guru and the subject of astrology.

Tried through many of my close classmates, whose parents also had held similar or higher posts than Mr. Rayudu in the same organization and they also happen to his colleagues.

I still have some hope that I would be able to lay my hands on atleast 3-4 main books of Dr.D.V. Subba Rao for one of my distant relatives of older generations, has been engaged in astro_discussions with him on many issues, {those days it was through post cards & inland letters...some of them are still preserved in his library.....} did have his books in his collection. Need to take some time later to visit his ancestral house and search through the "Spiders web"

Sri C.S. Patel & Dr. Subba Rao were like brothers and had long healthy relations between them.

Would surely share that knowledgebase as I get to know..... { the books are written in Telugu language}

For those interested to read his articles...... http://webpages.charter.net/rayudu/rayudu.html

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

 

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Dear Srinivas ji, May be an extra expectation beyond our capabilities - but still I am of the view that instead of depending on the work of others, especially in the lack of availablity of the same, we ourselves should do some solid work like CS Patel or Suba Rao ji to bring out the beauty and techniques of Nadi system of astrology, possibly based on the available nadis published by Madras Manuscript Library and the info provided by scholers like CS Patel and traditional knowledge available to scholers like Sunil ji. May be there is a lot more we can do - than others did. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote:>> > Dear Sunil,> > The referred article on the Nadi Amsa is written by Mr. Rayudu, Ex.> Director of DRDO, Hyderabad, and he happens to be a student of Dr. D.V.> Subba Rao who was an excellent exponent of Nadi Astrology and has> published about 9 books on the same, most of them are out of print. > The last print has been some time 1970's. I know few people who have> those books, including Mr. Rayudu, Hyderabad who is now into his 75+> yrs, tried many times with all incentives and begging tactics, many were> NOT even agreed to show the book in their own house/home.....least we> may steel the printed paper like a magician, such is the narrow> mentality of the book possessors or owners. Did some charity work,> in faint expectation to have a glance at it, however the charity was> received very well, but on the book issue, got a same Antartic +> Siberian Cold replies.> > Interestingly, none in their families have any qualified astrologer who> could have benefited from them. They would allow the termites to prey> on them, but never even share or show or allow us to copy or.....etc..> > When contacted the family members of Dr. D.V. Subba Rao, surprised to> get a reply from an educated family that - Sri Subba Rao prior to his> death, has declared based on his astrology, that he would be reborn and> write much more,.....so do not reprint or distribute them further.....> so similar to our some rigid religious intructions that there is NO> further Guru after me..... type proclamations/declarations....> > Mr. Rayudu boasts of his degrees & his official positions, but the same> is not reflected in his outlook or decisions. They are a breed of> yester generation. Moreover, he is NOT doing anything that would> elevate his jyotish_guru stature in public. If he shares, he would> doing a great service to his jyotish_guru and the subject of astrology.> > Tried through many of my close classmates, whose parents also had held> similar or higher posts than Mr. Rayudu in the same organization and> they also happen to his colleagues.> > I still have some hope that I would be able to lay my hands on atleast> 3-4 main books of Dr.D.V. Subba Rao for one of my distant relatives of> older generations, has been engaged in astro_discussions with him on> many issues, {those days it was through post cards & inland> letters...some of them are still preserved in his library.....} did> have his books in his collection. Need to take some time later to> visit his ancestral house and search through the "Spiders web"> > Sri C.S. Patel & Dr. Subba Rao were like brothers and had long healthy> relations between them.> > Would surely share that knowledgebase as I get to know..... { the books> are written in Telugu language}> > For those interested to read his articles...... > http://webpages.charter.net/rayudu/rayudu.html> <http://webpages.charter.net/rayudu/rayudu.html>> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas>

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Dear SSS jeees,Nadi astrology seems to be absolutely amazing!! Whatever little I could grasp through Sh. Patel's books seems like a treasure in itself. I also tried my hand in Deva Keralam, (the santhanam translation), which leaves me a little confused as whenever you read a chart, you've got to sit with the book and so far not gained much success with it.

If we're able to collect, in one place, all available info about the 150 nadis and develop our own simpler and modern parameters for application, it could be really useful for us. We may start with the tip of the iceberg. Apply to one planet, say lagna lord only and see if we can make any headway with it. Application to a planet could be more reliable as for lagna we're may not be sure of the birth time.

Or else, we could only start with Jupiter or saturn, the slower ones and would be easier to handle in faster nadi movements. If we are able to formulate some attributes for Jupiter in different nadis and could apply it across the board...

And thanks sunil ji for all the info on Nadi reading...waiting for a day when I could experience it myself...regardsneelam On 13/03/2008, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Srinivas ji, May be an extra expectation beyond our capabilities - but still I am of the view that instead of depending on the work of others, especially in the lack of availablity of the same, we ourselves should do some solid work like CS Patel or Suba Rao ji to bring out the beauty and techniques of Nadi system of astrology, possibly based on the available nadis published by Madras Manuscript Library and the info provided by scholers like CS Patel and traditional knowledge available to scholers like Sunil ji. May be there is a lot more we can do - than others did.

Love and regards,Sreenadh , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote:

>> > Dear Sunil,> > The referred article on the Nadi Amsa is written by Mr. Rayudu, Ex.> Director of DRDO, Hyderabad, and he happens to be a student of Dr. D.V.> Subba Rao who was an excellent exponent of Nadi Astrology and has

> published about 9 books on the same, most of them are out of print. > The last print has been some time 1970's. I know few people who have> those books, including Mr. Rayudu, Hyderabad who is now into his 75+

> yrs, tried many times with all incentives and begging tactics, many were> NOT even agreed to show the book in their own house/home.....least we> may steel the printed paper like a magician, such is the narrow

> mentality of the book possessors or owners. Did some charity work,> in faint expectation to have a glance at it, however the charity was> received very well, but on the book issue, got a same Antartic +

> Siberian Cold replies.> > Interestingly, none in their families have any qualified astrologer who> could have benefited from them. They would allow the termites to prey> on them, but never even share or show or allow us to copy or.....etc..

> > When contacted the family members of Dr. D.V. Subba Rao, surprised to> get a reply from an educated family that - Sri Subba Rao prior to his> death, has declared based on his astrology, that he would be reborn and

> write much more,.....so do not reprint or distribute them further.....> so similar to our some rigid religious intructions that there is NO> further Guru after me..... type proclamations/declarations....

> > Mr. Rayudu boasts of his degrees & his official positions, but the same> is not reflected in his outlook or decisions. They are a breed of> yester generation. Moreover, he is NOT doing anything that would

> elevate his jyotish_guru stature in public. If he shares, he would> doing a great service to his jyotish_guru and the subject of astrology.> > Tried through many of my close classmates, whose parents also had held

> similar or higher posts than Mr. Rayudu in the same organization and> they also happen to his colleagues.> > I still have some hope that I would be able to lay my hands on atleast> 3-4 main books of Dr.D.V. Subba Rao for one of my distant relatives of

> older generations, has been engaged in astro_discussions with him on> many issues, {those days it was through post cards & inland> letters...some of them are still preserved in his library.....} did

> have his books in his collection. Need to take some time later to> visit his ancestral house and search through the " Spiders web " > > Sri C.S. Patel & Dr. Subba Rao were like brothers and had long healthy

> relations between them.> > Would surely share that knowledgebase as I get to know..... { the books> are written in Telugu language}> > For those interested to read his articles......

> http://webpages.charter.net/rayudu/rayudu.html> <http://webpages.charter.net/rayudu/rayudu.html>

> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas>

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Hello All,

 

The NADI System of astrology has been a source of attraction and I have been very eager to learn about it. I have the Deva Keralam set which when i went through, it is found that it is difficult to apply the text in our readings. What best could be done is to discern the techniques used and apply them.

 

Now having gone thru the article by Mr . nair it is amazing to find the process of preparing the Nadi Chart. I wonder where this method has been enumerated. Please let me know if it is there in the Deva Karalam. Apart from this lets discuss some of the techniques and their results which have been found to be accurate.

Plz revert.

Thanx & Regards

Sumit Bajaj

On 13/03/2008, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hare rama krishna

dear grp .

This is part of nadi literature and this is dealt is detail with chandra kala nadi ( deva keralam ) tho some diffrnce in opinon abt calculation is there .

I dont know the nadi palm leaf readers are using it but the real nadi literature and technics revolvs around this amsas .

for those who wanted to know more abt it U can refer sri KN raojis book " planets and children " and there i think a seperate chapter deal with How his own nadi (of sri rao ji ) read by sri B V raman ji ( tru druva nadi ( a nadi in his possession ) } is wel explained .So he was using nadi amsas to determine and correct the birth time of sri raoji and some explanation and his future was given in it .

 

 

 

 

 

Nadi Amsha Chart

 

 

This article was published in " The Times of Astrology " magazine, New Delhi in April 2005.

Introduction

The Rashi is divided into several divisions such as Hora (1/2), Drekkana (1/3), Chaturtamsa ( 1/4), Panchamsa (1/5), Shastamsa ( 1/6), Saptamsa (1/7), Ashtamsa (1/8), Navamsha ( 1/9), Dashamsa (1/10), Dwadashamsa ( 1/12), Shodashamsa ( 1/16), Vimshamsa 91/20), Siddhamsa (1/24), Bhamsa (1/27), Trimshamsa (1/30), Khavedamsa (1/40), Akshavedamsa ( 1/40), Shastiamsa ( 1/60, Navamsha-Navamsha ( 1/81), Navamsha-Dwadashamsa ( 1/108) etc, representing different aspects of life. It is known how to prepare these different divisional charts though with some differences in the approach. But there is no published literature for the correct utilization of these charts in interpreting the results. Nadi Amsha is the subtlest in the division of the Rashi. Some of the published literature on Nadi amshas has given the results. But nowhere it is published how to prepare the Nadi amsha chart and to interpret the results.

In this article is given the explanation of the Nadi amshas, methodology to prepare the Nadi amsha chart and interpretation of Nadi amsha chart, out of my research.

Nadi Amshas

By now, most of the readers know what is a Nadi amsha. However, for the benefit of others, a Nadi amsha is 1/150th part of a rashi. The 30 degrees of rashi divided by 150 would give 12 minutes of arc (30 degrees multiplied by 60 and divided by 150 is equal to 12 minutes). Thus there are 150 Nadi amshas in a rashi and each Nadi amsha is of 12 minutes arc. If, on an average, 2 hours duration is taken for each rashi, it amounts to 48 seconds in time duration (2 hours multiplied by 3600 and divided by 150 is equal to 48 seconds). These Nadi amshas are given different names to recognize their interval periods.

The Nadi amshas are numbered in clockwise direction in moveable rashis from beginning to end of rashi. In fixed rashis they begin from end to beginning of rashi anti-clockwise. In dual rashis, they begin from middle of rashi, to the end of rashi then continue from beginning of rashi and counted upto the middle of rashi. For example, in Aries moveable rashi, the 1st Nadi amsha, named Vasudha, is from 0 degrees to 0 degrees 12 minutes, the 2nd Nadi amsha is from 0 degrees 12 minutes to 0degrees 24 minutes and so on till the 150th Nadi amsha is from 29 degrees 48 minutes to 30 degrees. In Taurus fixed rashi, the 1st Nadi amsha of Vasudha is from 29 degrees 48 minutes to 30 degrees, the 2nd one from 29 degrees 36 minutes to 29 degrees 48 minutes and so on till the last 150th Nadi amsha is from 0 degrees to 0 degrees 12 minutes. In Gemini dual rashi, the 1st Nadi amsha of Vasudha is from the middle 15 degrees to 15 degrees 12 minutes, the 2nd one from 15 degrees 12 minutes to 15 degrees 24 minutes and so on till the 75th Nadi amsha is from 29 degrees 48 minutes to 30 degrees and then the 76th Nadi amsha starts from the beginning of 0 degrees to 0 degrees 12 minutes, the 77th from 0 degrees 12 minutes to 0 degrees 24 minutes and so on till the 150th one is from 14 degrees 48 minutes to 15 degrees. Thus it can be seen that 1st Nadi amsha in Aries, the 150th Nadi amsha in Taurus and the 76th Nadi amsha in Gemini are the same. But it does not seem logical to apply this to all moveable, fixed and dual rashis. There are four sets of moveable, fixed and dual rashis in the zodiac. They are Aries-Taurus-Gemini, Cancer-Leo-Virgo, Libra-Scorpio-Sagittarius, and Capricorn-Aquarius-Pisces. The above logic applies only within each set. The 1st Nadi amsha of Cancer, 150th Nadi amsha of Leo, the 76th Nadi amsha of Virgo would be the same. The 1st Nadi amsha of Libra, the 150th Nadi amsha of Scorpio, the 76th Nadi amsha of Sagittarius would-be the same. The 1st Nadi amsha of Capricorn, the 150th Nadi amsha of Aquarius, the 76th adi amsha of Pisces would be the same.

Table of Nadi Amshas

For ready reference, the table of Nadi amshas is given in Appendix I to this article, as taken from my article " A Note on Nadi amshas " published by " Vedic Astrology " magazine November-December 1998. The list is also given the in the book " Devakeralam " by late Sri R. Shantanam and in " The Astrological Magazine " of late Sri B. V. Raman. The names of the Nadi amshas may differ but the duration of the intervals are the same in all the sources.

Preperation of Nadi Amshas Chart

Before preparing the Nadi amsha chart, it is essential to rectify the given birth time as per my article " Tatwa/Antartatwa Siddhata-Birth Rectification " published in " The Times of Astrology " magazine June 2002. This method would rectify the birth time to match the male / female births as per the day, lagna, and Moon star and tatwa upto a difference of 24 seconds in birthtime.

An attempt is made here from fundamentals of explanation of Nadi amshas to give a methodology to prepare a Nadi amsha chart for different sets moveable, fixed and dual rashis. Moveable Rashis In moveable rashis, the Nadi amshas are counted clockwise from the beginning to the end of the rashi. Hence in Aries moveable rashi, the 1st Nadi amsha falls in Aries itself, the 2nd I Taurus, the 3rd in Gemini and so on till the 150thfall in Virgo. In Cancer moveable rashi, the 1st Nadi amsha falls in Cancer, the 2nd in Leo, the 3rd in Virgo and so on till the last 150th falls in Sagittarius. In Libra moveable rashi, the 1st Nadi amsha falls in Libra, the 2nd in Scorpio, the 3rd in Sagittarius and so on till the 150th falls in Pisces. In Capricorn moveable rashi, the 1st Nadi amsha falls in Capricorn, the 2nd in Aquarius, the 3rd in Pisces and so on till the 150th falls in Gemini. That means, if Ascendant (lagna) or any other planet in rashi chart in Aries rashi is in 1st Nadi amsha of 0 degrees to 0 degrees 12 minutes, it falls in Aries rashi itself in Nadi amsha chart, if from 0-12 to 0-24 it falls in Taurus in Nadi chart, and so on till if it is between 29-48 to 39 degrees it should be place in Virgo in Nadi chart. Similarly the ascendant or any other planet in Cancer, Libra or Capricorn in rashi chart should be place in Nadi chart depending on the degrees and minutes in rashi chart and the number of the Nadi amsha.

Fixed Rashis In fixed rashis, the Nadi amshas are counted anti-clockwise from the end to the beginning of the rashi. In Taurus fixed rashi, the 1st Nadi amsha of 29-48 to 30 degrees is the same as the 150th Nadi amsha of 29-48 to 30 degrees in Aries moveable rashi. The 150th Nadi amsha in Taurus from 0 degrees to 0-0:12 is the same as the 1srt Nadi amsha of 0 degrees to 0-0:12 in Aries. As already explained above, 150th Nadi amsha of Aries falls in Virgo and 1st falls in Aries. Therefore, the 1st Nadi amsha of Taurus should start from Virgo and go anti-clockwise, the 2nd from 29-36 to 29-48 in Leo and so on till the 150th of 0 degrees to 0-0:12 falls in Aries. Suppose if ascendant or any planet id in 10 -58 in Taurus, it falls in the 96th Nadi amsha in Taurus from 10-48 to 11 degrees and so count 96 anti-clockwise from Virgo, which would be Libra. Therefore, the ascendant or any planet in 10-58 in Taurus in rashi chart should be placed in Libra in Nadi amsha chart.

Similarly in the second set of moveable-fixed-dual rashis of Cancer-Leo-Virgo, the 1st Nadi amsha of Leo is the same as the 1450th Nadi amsha of Cancer. The 150th Nadi amsha of cancer if Sagittarius. So the counting of Nadi amshas in Leo should start from Sagittarius anti-clockwise. If the ascendant or any planet is in 20-51 in Leo, it falls in the 46th Nadi amsha of 20-28 to 21degrees and so count 46 anti-clockwise from Sagittarius, which would be Pisces. Therefore, the ascendant or any planet in 20-51 in Leo in rashi chart should be place in Pisces in Nadi amsha chart.

Similarly in the third set of Libra-Scorpio-Sagittarius, the 150th Nadi amsha of Libra falls in Pisces and so the counting for Nadi amshas in Scorpio should start from Pisces anti-clockwise. F ascendant or any planet is in 10-58 in Scorpio, which would be the 96th Nadi amsha and so count 96 anti-clockwise from Pisces, which would be Aries. Therefore, the ascendant or any planet in 10-58 in Scorpio in rashi chart should be placed in Aries in Nadi amsha chart.

Similarly in the fourth set of Capricorn-Aquarius-Pisces, the counting for Nadi amshas in Aquarius shold start form Gemini which is the 150th in Capricorn. If ascendant or any planet were in 24-40 in Aquarius, it would be in 27th Nadi amsha and so count 27 anti-clockwise from Gemini, which would be Aries. Therefore the ascendant or any planet in 24-40 in Aquarius in rashi chart should be placed in Aries in Nadi amsha chart.

Thus the crux is that if the ascendant of any planet is in Taurus, the counting of Nadi amsha of that should start from Virgo anti-clockwise, if in Leo start counting from Sagittarius anti-clockwise, if in Scorpio start counting from Pisces anti-clockwise and if in Aquarius start counting from Gemini anti-clockwise.

Dual Rashis In dual rashis, the Nadi amshas are counted clockwise from the middle to the end of the rashi and then counting continued from the beginning to the middle of the rashi. In Gemini dual rashi, the 1st Nadi amsha of 15 to 15-12 is the same as the 76th Nadi amsha of 15 to 15-12 in Aries moveable rashi. The 75th Nadi amsha of Gemini from 29-48 to 30 degrees is same as the 150th in Aries. The 76th Nadi amsha in Gemini from 0 degrees to 0-12 is same as the 1srt in Aries. The 150th Nadi amsha in Gemini from 14-48 to 15 degrees is same as the 75th in Aries. As already seen in Aries, the 76th Nadi amsha falls in Cancer, the 150th in Virgo, and the 1srt in Aries and the 75th in Gemini. So the 1st Nadi amsha in Gemini should fall in Cancer, 75th in Virgo, 76th in Aries and 150th in Gemini. So the counting of Nadi amshas in Gemini should start form Cancer clockwise from the 1srt Nadi amsha till the 75th in Virgo. The 76th in Gemini should start clockwise from Aries till the 150th in Gemini. Suppose the ascendant or any planet is in 18-27 in Gemini, it falls in the 18th Nadi amsha in Gemini from 18-24 to18-36 and so count 18 clockwise from Cancer, which would be Sagittarius. Therefore, the ascendant or any planet in 18-27 in Gemini in rashi chart should be placed in Sagittarius in Nadi chart. Suppose the ascendant or any planet is in 1-10 in Gemini, it falls in the 82nd Nadi amsha in Gemini from 1 degree to 1-12 and so count 82 clockwise from Aries taking 76 as Aries, which would be Virgo. Therefore the ascendant or any planet in 1-10 in Gemini in rashi chart should be placed in Virgo in Nadi chart.

Similarly in the second set of moveable-fixed-dual rashis of Cancer-Leo-Virgo, the 1st Nadi amsha in Virgo is same as the 76th in Cancer, 75th in Virgo is same as 150th in Cancer, 76th in Virgo is same as 1st in Cancer and the 150th in Virgo is same as the 75th in Cancer. The 76th in Cancer falls in Libra. O the counting of Nadi amshas in Virgo should start from Libra clockwise till the 75th falls in Sagittarius. The 76th in Virgo should start clockwise from Cancer till the 150th in Virgo. Suppose if the ascendant or any planet is in 18-27 in Virgo, it falls in the 18th Nadi amsha in Virgo, and to count 18 from Libra clockwise, which would e Pisces. Therefore the ascendant or any planet in 18-27 in Virgo in rashi chart should be placed in Pisces in Nadi chart.

Suppose the ascendant or any planet is in 1-10 in Virgo, it falls in the 82nf Nadi amsha in Virgo and so count 82 clockwise from Cancer taking 76 as Cancer, which would be Sagittarius. Therefore the ascendant or any planet in 1-10 in Virgo in rashi chart should be place in Sagittarius in Nadi chart.

Similarly in the third set of Libra-Scorpio-Sagittarius, the 1st Nadi amsha in Sagittarius is same as the 76th in Libra, the 75th in Sagittarius is same as 150th in Libra, 76th in Sagittarius is same as 1st in Libra and the 150th in Sagittarius is same s 75th in Libra. The 76th in Libra falls in Capricorn. So the counting of Nadi amshas in Sagittarius from 1st to 75th should start clockwise from Capricorn till the 75th in Pisces. The 76th Sagittarius should start clockwise from Libra till the 150th in Sagittarius. Suppose if the ascendant or any planet is in 18-27 in Sagittarius, it falls in the 18th Nadi amsha of Sagittarius and so count 18 from Capricorn clockwise, which would be Gemini. Therefore the ascendant or any planet in Sagittarius in 18-27 in rashi chart should be placed in Gemini in Nadi chart. Suppose if the ascendant or any planet is in 1-10 in Sagittarius, it falls in 82nd Nadi amsha in Sagittarius and so count 82from Libra clockwise taking 786 as Libra, which would be Pisces and therefore should be place n Pisces in Nadi chart.

Similarly in the fourth set of Capricorn-Aquarius-Pisces, the counting of Nadi amshas in Pisces from 1st to 75th should start from Aries clockwise till the 75th falls in Gemini. The 76th Nadi amsha in Pisces should start clockwise from Capricorn till the 150th falls in Pisces. Therefore the ascendant or any planet in 23-51 in Pisces falls in 45th Nadi amsha in Pisces from 23-48 to 2 degrees. So count 45 from Aries clockwise, which would be Sagittarius and therefore should be placed in Sagittarius in Nadi chart. If ascendant or any planet is in 1-10 in Pisces, it falls in 82nd Nadi amsha in Pisces and so count 82 from Capricorn clockwise taking 76th as Capricorn, which would be Gemini and therefore should be placed in Gemini in Nadi chart.

Example of nadi Chart

Based on the above methodology, the Nadi chart is given below for the ascendant and planets in rashi chart.

Rasi Chart: Libra-Ascendant 5-54, Venus 7-4, Rahu 27-16; Capricorn- moon 20-9; Aquarius- Jupiter 2-7; Pisces- Saturn 23-51; Aries- Ketu 27-16; Leo- Mercury 5-59, Mars 6-33, Sun 20-51

Nadi Chart: Pisces-Ascendant, Sun, Mars; Taurus-Moon; Leo- Ketu; Virgo-Venus; Scorpio- Jupiter; Sagittarius-Mercury, Saturn; Aquarius-Rahu

Interpretation of nadi Chart

The person of the above rashi chart is a mechanical engineer retired from Government Defense Research service. After retirement he continued his hobby of astrology doing researh, writing articles, giving lectures and consultations, getting awards in astrology. He also knows Vedanta and Veena musical instrument to some extent. He has own house and vehicles. He ahs only one son settled abroad. He lives on pension I his own house with his wife studying astrology and Vedanta. He also travels in India and abroad. He ahs moderate health.

The above rashi and Nadi charts are broadly analyzed to check which one would give better interpretation.

In the rashi chart, the 10th house is vacant aspected by the 10th lord Moon. The 10th lords in 4th alone in Moon star without any aspects from any other planet. From this, it is difficult to interpret his activities in Defence research, astrology and Vedanta. Venus in Libra ascendant in own house has not given any proficiency in his musical interests. The Moon in 4th, the 4th not aspected by any planet ad the 4th lord Saturn in 6th house aspected by Mars should have obstructed having his own house, vehicles and education. Jupiter in 5th ouse aspected by Sun, Mercury and Mars and the 5th lord Saturn in 6th house with exchange (parivartana) with Jupiter should have given more children. The 2nd lord Mars, 9th lord Mercury and 11th lord Sun in 11th should have given big wealth and prosperity. Ascendant lord Venus in the ascendant and 6th lord Jupiter In 5th with exchange with Saturn should have given good health. The 9th and 12th lord Mercury with enemy mars should have obstructed his travels.

In the Nadi chart, Saturn and Mercury in 10th house, 10th and 1st lord Jupiter in Scorpio of Mars with exchange with Mars would give better interpretation about his activities in Defense research, astrology and Vedanta. Debilitated Venus has not given much progress in musical pursuits. The 4th house aspected by 4th lord Mercury, 2nd and 9th lord mars, 11th lord Saturn has given good house, vehicles and education. The 5th house aspected by Jupiter and 5th lord Moon exalted has given one son. The 2nd and 9th lord Mars in ascendant associated with 6th lord Sun and 11th and 12th lord Saturn have given moderate wealth and prosperity. The 6th lord Sun in ascendant aspected by 8th lord debilitated Venus has given moderate health though ascendant lord Jupiter aspecting the ascendant. Jupiter in 9th and 9th lord Mars in ascendant with exchange with ascendant lord Jupiter and 12th aspected by 11th and 12th lord Saturn has given the travels.

The transits of planets in both the charts can also be compared to check the results though it is not done here.

Thus from the above broad analysis the Nadi chart gives better interpretation than the rashi chart.

Conclusion

Since the Nadi amshas differentiate upto 48 seconds in birth time, it is the subtlest available means to interpret better results. When there is no published literature to correctly interpret the all the other known divisional charts, particularly whether lordship of houses can be taken or not in the divisional charts, it is not claimed that the analysis of the Nadi chart as given above is correct. It is also not claimed that the above methodology to prepare the Nadi chart is correct. The idea is writing this article is to stimulate the experts astrology to come out with better research to delve deep into this subject to interpret better results by studying all the divisional charts including the subtlest Nadi amsha chart and to publish the same for the benefit of others. The subject of astrology is already having its natural death with superficial knowledge and interpretations of commercial interest and without any deep research and published literature. It is an earnest request once again to all the astrologers and other government and private organizations to do deep research in astrology and publish the same to revive this great Divine subject.

Appendix I

Nadi Amshas and their Order in Various Rashis

The following table is attached to my article " A Note on Nadi Amshas " by the magazine " Vedic astrology " on their own. It is likely that the names may differ by some others.

Note: 1 represents 0 degrees to 0 degrees 12 minutes, 2 represents 0 degrees 12 minutes to 0 degrees 24 minutes etc till 150 represents 29 degrees 48 minutes to 30 degrees, thus each nadi amsha increasing by 0 degrees 12 minutes.

 

 

 

Nadi Amsha

Moveable rashi

Fixed rashi

Duel rashi

 

Vasudhaa

1

150

76

 

Vaishnavi

2

149

77

 

Braahmi

3

148

78

 

Kaalakoota

4

147

79

 

Shaankari

5

146

80

 

Sudhaakari

6

145

81

 

Samaa

7

144

82

 

Saumyaa

8

143

83

 

Suraa

9

142

84

 

Maayaa

10

141

85

 

Manoharaa

11

140

86

 

Maadhavi

12

139

87

 

Manjuswanaa

13

138

88

 

Ghoraa

14

137

89

 

Kumbhini

15

136

90

 

Kutilaa

16

135

91

 

Prabhaa

17

134

92

 

Paraa

18

133

93

 

Payasvini

19

132

94

 

Maalaa

20

131

95

 

Jagati

21

130

96

 

Jarjharaa

22

129

97

 

Dhruvaa

23

128

98

 

Musalaa

24

127

99

 

Mudgaraa

25

126

100

 

Paashaa

26

125

101

 

Champakaa

27

124

102

 

Daamakaa(Daamini)

28

123

103

 

Mahi

29

122

104

 

Kulashaa

30

121

105

 

Kamalaa

31

120

106

 

Kaantaa

32

119

107

 

Kaalaa

33

118

108

 

Karikaraa

34

117

109

 

Kahamaa

35

116

110

 

Durdharaa

36

115

111

 

Durbhagaa

37

114

112

 

Vishwaa

38

113

113

 

Visheernaa

39

112

114

 

Vikataa

40

111

115

 

Avilaa

41

110

116

 

Vibhramaa

42

109

117

 

Sukhadaa

43

108

118

 

Snigdhaa

44

107

119

 

Sodaraa

45

106

120

 

Surasundari

46

105

121

 

Amritaplaavini

47

104

122

 

Kaalaa

48

103

123

 

Kaamadhuk

49

102

124

 

Karaveerani

50

101

125

 

Gahvaraa

51

100

126

 

Kundini

52

99

127

 

Raudraa

53

98

128

 

Vishaakhyaa

54

97

129

 

Vishanaashini

55

96

130

 

Narmadaa

56

95

131

 

Sheetalaa

57

94

132

 

Nimnaa

58

93

133

 

Preetaa

59

92

134

 

Priyavardhini

60

91

135

 

Maanaghnaa

61

90

136

 

Durbhagaa

62

89

137

 

Chiraa

63

88

138

 

Chitrini

64

87

139

 

Chiranjeevini

65

86

140

 

Bhoopaa

66

85

141

 

Gakaharaa

67

84

142

 

Naalaa

68

83

143

 

Nalini

69

82

144

 

Nirmalaa

70

81

145

 

Nadi

71

80

146

 

Sudhaamritaamshu

72

79

147

 

Kaalikaa

73

78

148

 

Kalushankuraa

74

77

149

 

Trailokyamohankari

75

76

150

 

Mahaamaari

76

75

1

 

Susheetalaa

77

74

2

 

Sukhadaa

78

73

3

 

Suprabhaa

79

72

4

 

Shobhaa

80

71

5

 

Shobhanaa

81

70

6

 

Shivadaa

82

69

7

 

Shivaa

83

68

8

 

Balaa

84

67

9

 

Jwaalaa

85

66

10

 

Gadaa

86

65

11

 

Gaadhaa

87

64

12

 

Nootanaa

88

63

13

 

Sumanoharaa

89

62

14

 

Somavalli

90

61

15

 

Somalataa

91

60

16

 

Mangalaa

92

9

17

 

Mudrikaa

93

58

18

 

Kshudhaa

94

57

19

 

Mokshaapavargaa

95

56

20

 

Balayaa

96

55

21

 

Navaneeta

97

54

22

 

Nishaachari

98

53

23

 

Nirritti

99

52

24

 

Nigadaa

100

51

25

 

Saraa

101

50

26

 

Sangeetaa

102

49

27

 

Saamadaa

103

48

28

 

Samaa

104

47

29

 

Viwhwambharaa

105

46

30

 

Kumaari

106

45

31

 

Kokilaa

107

44

32

 

Kunjaraakriti

108

43

33

 

Aindraa

109

42

34

 

Swaahaa

110

41

35

 

Swaraa

111

40

36

 

Vahni

112

39

37

 

Preetaa

113

38

38

 

Rakshajalaaplavaa

114

37

39

 

Vaaruni

115

36

40

 

Madiraa

116

35

41

 

Maitri

117

34

42

 

Haarini

118

33

43

 

Harini

119

32

44

 

Marut

120

31

45

 

Dhananjayaa

121

30

46

 

Dhanakari

122

29

47

 

Dhanadaa

123

28

48

 

Kamchhapaambuja

124

27

49

 

Maamshaani

125

26

50

 

Shooeini

126

25

51

 

Raudri

127

24

52

 

Shivaa

128

23

53

 

Shivakari

129

22

54

 

Kalaa

130

21

55

 

Kundaa

131

20

56

 

Mukundaa

132

19

57

 

Bharataa

133

18

58

 

Haritaa

134

17

59

 

Kadalee

135

16

60

 

Smaraa

136

15

61

 

Kandalaa

137

14

62

 

Kokilaa

138

13

63

 

Paapaa

139

12

64

 

Kaamini

140

11

65

 

Kalashodbhavaa

141

10

66

 

Veeraprasoo

142

9

67

 

Sangaraa

143

8

68

 

Shatayajnaa

144

7

69

 

Shataavari

145

6

70

 

Prahvi

146

5

71

 

Paatalini

147

4

72

 

Naagaa

148

3

73

 

Pankajaa

149

2

74

 

Parameshwari

150

1

75

 

sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

 

-- Sumit BajajContact: +91-98300-84593

[Guest guest]

Hare ramakrishna

 

dear sumit ji ,

 

Thanks for the query .

 

Now i hav to disppoint u and that article is not fully correct as nadi

amsa is not fixed and depending on signs it changes ( what sreeram ji

said is correct its guru shapa _its written by sri Rayudu ) I just

copied it to giv a general awareness and sequence is correct but

degrees changes ,Also one should know how nadiamsa behaves and the lagna

nadiamsa and the planets in each nadiamsa to know the real effects ,i

means the as the name suggests of each amsa its has got a defenit

meaning and its has to learn from guru mukha .So its passed down oraly

and lack of good gurus and lack of sincere and discpilined students

those technics r already on death bed

 

 

 

This technics are explained in devakerala ,sathya nadi and druva nadi as

for as my knowledge but not in print editions .I think astrological

magazine published a gr8 deal quoting DRuva nadi ( but it was on

serialised way than in book form )

 

 

 

So many translaters many dont know actual technics or usuages ,that is

the reason u find it difficult with those books .

 

 

 

There was a gr8 man sri C S patel who knows abt it among the english

knowing famous gurus .But again he dont disclose it in printed editions

 

 

 

I am still trying on it may be one day i may be successful

 

Till then both of us can try our level best and offcource knowledge will

come to seeker

 

Here i like to quote sri K N rao,the gr8 astro guru --- " yeh vidya gupt

hai ast nahi " ( if my my memory is correct -i read from some astro mag

)

 

 

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

 

 

, " Sumit Bajaj "

<sumitbajaj2000 wrote:

>

> Hello All,

>

> The NADI System of astrology has been a source of attraction and I

have been

> very eager to learn about it. I have the Deva Keralam set which when i

went

> through, it is found that it is difficult to apply the text in our

readings.

> What best could be done is to discern the techniques used and apply

them.

>

> Now having gone thru the article by Mr . nair it is amazing to find

the

> process of preparing the Nadi Chart. I wonder where this method has

been

> enumerated. Please let me know if it is there in the Deva Karalam.

Apart

> from this lets discuss some of the techniques and their results which

have

> been found to be accurate.

> Plz revert.

> Thanx & Regards

> Sumit Bajaj

>

[Guest guest]

Dear suniljii, thx a lot for the reply.

 

Now, the question is how to go about it. Its been 2 years i havent got a clue of the nadiamsa as detailed in Chandrakala Nadi. I will like a group to be formed specially for NADI Astrology and for the excavations of the techniques and knowledges which seems to be in " death bed " . We should if there is a concerted effort be able to bring out to the world these hidden and accurate techniques. If we could get the correct nadiamsa also it can be the first step for success.

 

I have imagined like, if we could put in a model the information about each kundli which we read like number of brother, sister, parents state, job, business etc. in a database and then if that could be analysed by a data miner through means of its modelling skills and other IT techniquess, then it will be possible to bring out certain rules based on this nadiamsa. But how far it will be successful can be known only after initiative is taken on.

 

I would advice all to let us form a group only based on Nadi astrology for the sake of this science. Please advice and reply.

 

Again, on C S Patel books a small clarification i had. Like he says " Whenever Lord of 22nd drekana from Asc and 64th navamsha from Moon happen to transit a point deprived of an auspicious bindu after 2 sodhanas are carried out and if that KAKSHYA happens to be owned by transiting planets, DEATH is unavoidable " . Has anyone have any view on this statemen? Has anyone applied and if yes then is it so accurate as Mr. Patel says so.I will like to know the intricasy of the same. Kindly reply

 

Thanx & regards

On 15/03/2008, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Hare ramakrishnadear sumit ji ,Thanks for the query .Now i hav to disppoint u and that article is not fully correct as nadiamsa is not fixed and depending on signs it changes ( what sreeram ji

said is correct its guru shapa _its written by sri Rayudu ) I justcopied it to giv a general awareness and sequence is correct butdegrees changes ,Also one should know how nadiamsa behaves and the lagnanadiamsa and the planets in each nadiamsa to know the real effects ,i

means the as the name suggests of each amsa its has got a defenitmeaning and its has to learn from guru mukha .So its passed down oralyand lack of good gurus and lack of sincere and discpilined studentsthose technics r already on death bed

This technics are explained in devakerala ,sathya nadi and druva nadi asfor as my knowledge but not in print editions .I think astrologicalmagazine published a gr8 deal quoting DRuva nadi ( but it was onserialised way than in book form )

So many translaters many dont know actual technics or usuages ,that isthe reason u find it difficult with those books .There was a gr8 man sri C S patel who knows abt it among the englishknowing famous gurus .But again he dont disclose it in printed editions

I am still trying on it may be one day i may be successfulTill then both of us can try our level best and offcource knowledge willcome to seekerHere i like to quote sri K N rao,the gr8 astro guru --- " yeh vidya gupt

hai ast nahi " ( if my my memory is correct -i read from some astro mag)regrds sunil nairom shreem mahalaxmai namah , " Sumit Bajaj "

<sumitbajaj2000 wrote:>> Hello All,>> The NADI System of astrology has been a source of attraction and Ihave been> very eager to learn about it. I have the Deva Keralam set which when i

went> through, it is found that it is difficult to apply the text in ourreadings.> What best could be done is to discern the techniques used and applythem.>> Now having gone thru the article by Mr . nair it is amazing to find

the> process of preparing the Nadi Chart. I wonder where this method hasbeen> enumerated. Please let me know if it is there in the Deva Karalam.Apart> from this lets discuss some of the techniques and their results which

have> been found to be accurate.> Plz revert.> Thanx & Regards> Sumit Bajaj> -- Sumit BajajContact: +91-98300-84593

[Guest guest]

, " sreeram srinivas "

<sreeram64 wrote:

>

Dear Sreeramji,

 

I happen to possess a book by Rayuduji - " how to read a horoscope "

 

I must say that the book does not follow any of the astrological

principles in predictions. He has come up with a percentage based method.

 

* Benefic/Malefic percentages of planets

Example:

Say planet in own house - give 2 benefic points,

in friend's house - add 1 benefic point,

in own start - some more +/-

 

and arrives at a benefic percentage for each planet - and similarly

arrives at a malefic percentage for each planet.

 

* Benefic/Malefic percentages of houses

Then depending on planets in each house he arrives at a

benefic/malefic percentages of houses

 

For every house, he uses the above percentages to say how much

beneficity/maleficity will result from the planet/house.

 

Others may disagree with me - But I feel the above method is

completely wrong.

 

Sreeramji, Sreenadhji, Sunilji - Your views on the above Rayudu method

are welcome

 

Thanks

Kiran

 

>

> Dear Sunil,

>

> The referred article on the Nadi Amsa is written by Mr. Rayudu, Ex.

> Director of DRDO, Hyderabad, and he happens to be a student of Dr. D.V.

> Subba Rao who was an excellent exponent of Nadi Astrology and has

> published about 9 books on the same, most of them are out of print.

> The last print has been some time 1970's. I know few people who have

> those books, including Mr. Rayudu, Hyderabad who is now into his 75+

> yrs, tried many times with all incentives and begging tactics, many were

> NOT even agreed to show the book in their own house/home.....least we

> may steel the printed paper like a magician, such is the narrow

> mentality of the book possessors or owners. Did some charity work,

> in faint expectation to have a glance at it, however the charity was

> received very well, but on the book issue, got a same Antartic +

> Siberian Cold replies.

>

> Interestingly, none in their families have any qualified astrologer who

> could have benefited from them. They would allow the termites to prey

> on them, but never even share or show or allow us to copy or.....etc..

>

> When contacted the family members of Dr. D.V. Subba Rao, surprised to

> get a reply from an educated family that - Sri Subba Rao prior to his

> death, has declared based on his astrology, that he would be reborn and

> write much more,.....so do not reprint or distribute them further.....

> so similar to our some rigid religious intructions that there is NO

> further Guru after me..... type proclamations/declarations....

>

> Mr. Rayudu boasts of his degrees & his official positions, but the same

> is not reflected in his outlook or decisions. They are a breed of

> yester generation. Moreover, he is NOT doing anything that would

> elevate his jyotish_guru stature in public. If he shares, he would

> doing a great service to his jyotish_guru and the subject of astrology.

>

> Tried through many of my close classmates, whose parents also had held

> similar or higher posts than Mr. Rayudu in the same organization and

> they also happen to his colleagues.

>

> I still have some hope that I would be able to lay my hands on atleast

> 3-4 main books of Dr.D.V. Subba Rao for one of my distant relatives of

> older generations, has been engaged in astro_discussions with him on

> many issues, {those days it was through post cards & inland

> letters...some of them are still preserved in his library.....} did

> have his books in his collection. Need to take some time later to

> visit his ancestral house and search through the " Spiders web "

>

> Sri C.S. Patel & Dr. Subba Rao were like brothers and had long healthy

> relations between them.

>

> Would surely share that knowledgebase as I get to know..... { the books

> are written in Telugu language}

>

> For those interested to read his articles......

> http://webpages.charter.net/rayudu/rayudu.html

> <http://webpages.charter.net/rayudu/rayudu.html>

>

> With regards,

>

> Sreeram_Srinivas

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Kiran.Rama ji,

 

Welcome back....nice to see you shooting arrows.....Mr. Rayudu's logic

does have some relevance in the classics.....do not exactly remember it

now....would come on it......there is a method in which you give and

take some points for each planets.....used for timing and strength

capacity for predictions......let me do some reading.....in between....

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

, " kiran.rama "

<kiran.rama wrote:

>

> , " sreeram srinivas "

> sreeram64@ wrote:

> >

> Dear Sreeramji,

>

> I happen to possess a book by Rayuduji - " how to read a horoscope "

>

> I must say that the book does not follow any of the astrological

> principles in predictions. He has come up with a percentage based

method.

>

> * Benefic/Malefic percentages of planets

> Example:

> Say planet in own house - give 2 benefic points,

> in friend's house - add 1 benefic point,

> in own start - some more +/-

>

> and arrives at a benefic percentage for each planet - and similarly

> arrives at a malefic percentage for each planet.

>

> * Benefic/Malefic percentages of houses

> Then depending on planets in each house he arrives at a

> benefic/malefic percentages of houses

>

> For every house, he uses the above percentages to say how much

> beneficity/maleficity will result from the planet/house.

>

> Others may disagree with me - But I feel the above method is

> completely wrong.

>

> Sreeramji, Sreenadhji, Sunilji - Your views on the above Rayudu method

> are welcome

>

> Thanks

> Kiran

>

[Guest guest]

Hare rama krishna

 

dear sumit Bajaj ji,

 

 

 

Thanks for the mail and showing interest in discussion .

 

 

But i doubt another grp will be solution to the problem ,what we

need is a close circuit closed grp ,and those who r realy ready to

acrifice for the cause of it ,so each and every one can contribute

depending on his calibre .Some can devote even 24 Hrs in reserch and

getting things trnslated and tabulating applied and proved theoreys for

the rest of mankind .Otherwise another grp will be u can find some one will come

there for easy predictions or some arm chair learning and will kill the

whole essence of it .

 

 

I think u can also conct sree ram srinivasji who is realy ready to

help and go to any extent in reserch .

 

 

Now ur question on great master swargiya sri C S patel ji (Like he says

" Whenever Lord of 22nd drekana from Asc and 64th navamsha from Moon

happen to transit a point deprived of an auspicious bindu after 2

sodhanas are carried out and if that KAKSHYA happens to be owned by

transiting planets, DEATH is unavoidable " . Has anyone have any view on

this statemen? Has anyone applied and if yes then is it so accurate as

Mr. Patel says so.I will like to know the intricasy of the same. )

 

 

MY experience says he never utter any word which he dont find working

 

 

Now if u r interested work on this chart of sri Dhirubhai ambani

(Dhirajlal Hirachand Ambani (28 December

1932

- 6 July 2002

),The man with midas touch

 

 

 

28/12/32

6.37 am

POB- Chorwad

021=01 N

070=18 E

 

Ascendant -

Sagittarius - 01.29.59

(As per KP ayanamsha)

as per Lahiri minus 6 mts.

 

 

His 22nd drekkana Lord is moon and from moon 64th navamsa lord -its sat ,the day

of his

death is given above .

 

 

 

U can pls work on it and see how the theeorem is working on lite of

actual lite of events ( i am yet to work on it )

 

 

 

 

regrds sunil nair

 

 

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

 

 

 

 

, " Sumit Bajaj "

<sumitbajaj2000 wrote:

>

> Dear suniljii, thx a lot for the reply.

>

> Now, the question is how to go about it. Its been 2 years i havent got

a

> clue of the nadiamsa as detailed in Chandrakala Nadi. I will like a

group to

> be formed specially for NADI Astrology and for the excavations of the

> techniques and knowledges which seems to be in " death bed " . We should

if

> there is a concerted effort be able to bring out to the world these

hidden

> and accurate techniques. If we could get the correct nadiamsa also it

can be

> the first step for success.

>

> I have imagined like, if we could put in a model the information about

each

> kundli which we read like number of brother, sister, parents state,

job,

> business etc. in a database and then if that could be analysed by a

data

> miner through means of its modelling skills and other IT techniquess,

then

> it will be possible to bring out certain rules based on this nadiamsa.

But

> how far it will be successful can be known only after initiative is

taken

> on.

>

> I would advice all to let us form a group only based on Nadi astrology

for

> the sake of this science. Please advice and reply.

>

> Again, on C S Patel books a small clarification i had. Like he

Kindly reply

>

> Thanx & regards

>

>

> On 15/03/2008, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Hare ramakrishna

> >

> > dear sumit ji ,

> >

> > Thanks for the query .

> >

> > Now i hav to disppoint u and that article is not fully correct as

nadi

> > amsa is not fixed and depending on signs it changes ( what sreeram

ji

> > said is correct its guru shapa _its written by sri Rayudu ) I just

> > copied it to giv a general awareness and sequence is correct but

> > degrees changes ,Also one should know how nadiamsa behaves and the

lagna

> > nadiamsa and the planets in each nadiamsa to know the real effects

,i

> > means the as the name suggests of each amsa its has got a defenit

> > meaning and its has to learn from guru mukha .So its passed down

oraly

> > and lack of good gurus and lack of sincere and discpilined students

> > those technics r already on death bed

> >

> > This technics are explained in devakerala ,sathya nadi and druva

nadi as

> > for as my knowledge but not in print editions .I think astrological

> > magazine published a gr8 deal quoting DRuva nadi ( but it was on

> > serialised way than in book form )

> >

> > So many translaters many dont know actual technics or usuages ,that

is

> > the reason u find it difficult with those books .

> >

> > There was a gr8 man sri C S patel who knows abt it among the english

> > knowing famous gurus .But again he dont disclose it in printed

editions

> >

> > I am still trying on it may be one day i may be successful

> >

> > Till then both of us can try our level best and offcource knowledge

will

> > come to seeker

> >

> > Here i like to quote sri K N rao,the gr8 astro guru --- " yeh vidya

gupt

> > hai ast nahi " ( if my my memory is correct -i read from some astro

mag

> > )

> >

> > regrds sunil nair

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> >

> > --- In

<%40yaho\

ogroups.com>,

> > " Sumit Bajaj "

> > sumitbajaj2000@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello All,

> > >

> > > The NADI System of astrology has been a source of attraction and I

> > have been

> > > very eager to learn about it. I have the Deva Keralam set which

when i

> > went

> > > through, it is found that it is difficult to apply the text in our

> > readings.

> > > What best could be done is to discern the techniques used and

apply

> > them.

> > >

> > > Now having gone thru the article by Mr . nair it is amazing to

find

> > the

> > > process of preparing the Nadi Chart. I wonder where this method

has

> > been

> > > enumerated. Please let me know if it is there in the Deva Karalam.

> > Apart

> > > from this lets discuss some of the techniques and their results

which

> > have

> > > been found to be accurate.

> > > Plz revert.

> > > Thanx & Regards

> > > Sumit Bajaj

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Sumit Bajaj

> Contact: +91-98300-84593

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Sumit Bajaj2000 ji,

 

Your interest and ideas are appreciated. The nadiamsas given in

Chandra Kala nadi as per Sri Patel's own admission, in his subsequent

years of few years of serious thinking, made some pencil corrections, as

per my friend who was close to him.... unfortunately that book is

untraceable. Similarly to some statements or interpretations to

original commentary of Sri Santanam. According to Sri C. S. Patel,

the correct nadiamsa according to him were published in some Gujarati

magazine....details unknown.....longback...

 

No one in any group has ever read or has or any idea where that Gujarati

astro_magazine can be traced.....nor the publishers have kept any

copy..... in their archives.... {may be 2-3 astro_magazines}.

 

It is beyond we mortals currently, for get grip of such nadi-texts, one

should be exceptionally good in sanskrit and guru's grace.

 

There are many query posers from Chennai, Tamilnadu,.....not a word to

my query to them...if they can just visit the govt. libraries there... {

predefined}.... to get some " surface information " with all effort &

money paid in hard cash...... NOT one came forward......

 

So I am sceptical.

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

 

, " Sumit Bajaj "

<sumitbajaj2000 wrote:

>

> Dear suniljii, thx a lot for the reply.

>

> Now, the question is how to go about it. Its been 2 years i havent got

a

> clue of the nadiamsa as detailed in Chandrakala Nadi. I will like a

group to

> be formed specially for NADI Astrology and for the excavations of the

> techniques and knowledges which seems to be in " death bed " . We should

if

> there is a concerted effort be able to bring out to the world these

hidden

> and accurate techniques. If we could get the correct nadiamsa also it

can be

> the first step for success.

>

> I have imagined like, if we could put in a model the information about

each

> kundli which we read like number of brother, sister, parents state,

job,

> business etc. in a database and then if that could be analysed by a

data

> miner through means of its modelling skills and other IT techniquess,

then

> it will be possible to bring out certain rules based on this nadiamsa.

But

> how far it will be successful can be known only after initiative is

taken

> on.

>

> I would advice all to let us form a group only based on Nadi astrology

for

> the sake of this science. Please advice and reply.

>

> Again, on C S Patel books a small clarification i had. Like he says

> " Whenever Lord of 22nd drekana from Asc and 64th navamsha from Moon

happen

> to transit a point deprived of an auspicious bindu after 2 sodhanas

are

> carried out and if that KAKSHYA happens to be owned by transiting

planets,

> DEATH is unavoidable " . Has anyone have any view on this statemen? Has

anyone

> applied and if yes then is it so accurate as Mr. Patel says so.I will

like

> to know the intricasy of the same. Kindly reply

>

> Thanx & regards

>

>

> On 15/03/2008, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Hare ramakrishna

> >

> > dear sumit ji ,

> >

> > Thanks for the query .

> >

> > Now i hav to disppoint u and that article is not fully correct as

nadi

> > amsa is not fixed and depending on signs it changes ( what sreeram

ji

> > said is correct its guru shapa _its written by sri Rayudu ) I just

> > copied it to giv a general awareness and sequence is correct but

> > degrees changes ,Also one should know how nadiamsa behaves and the

lagna

> > nadiamsa and the planets in each nadiamsa to know the real effects

,i

> > means the as the name suggests of each amsa its has got a defenit

> > meaning and its has to learn from guru mukha .So its passed down

oraly

> > and lack of good gurus and lack of sincere and discpilined students

> > those technics r already on death bed

> >

> > This technics are explained in devakerala ,sathya nadi and druva

nadi as

> > for as my knowledge but not in print editions .I think astrological

> > magazine published a gr8 deal quoting DRuva nadi ( but it was on

> > serialised way than in book form )

> >

> > So many translaters many dont know actual technics or usuages ,that

is

> > the reason u find it difficult with those books .

> >

> > There was a gr8 man sri C S patel who knows abt it among the english

> > knowing famous gurus .But again he dont disclose it in printed

editions

> >

> > I am still trying on it may be one day i may be successful

> >

> > Till then both of us can try our level best and offcource knowledge

will

> > come to seeker

> >

> > Here i like to quote sri K N rao,the gr8 astro guru --- " yeh vidya

gupt

> > hai ast nahi " ( if my my memory is correct -i read from some astro

mag

> > )

> >

> > regrds sunil nair

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> >

> > --- In

<%40yaho\

ogroups.com>,

> > " Sumit Bajaj "

> > sumitbajaj2000@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello All,

> > >

> > > The NADI System of astrology has been a source of attraction and I

> > have been

> > > very eager to learn about it. I have the Deva Keralam set which

when i

> > went

> > > through, it is found that it is difficult to apply the text in our

> > readings.

> > > What best could be done is to discern the techniques used and

apply

> > them.

> > >

> > > Now having gone thru the article by Mr . nair it is amazing to

find

> > the

> > > process of preparing the Nadi Chart. I wonder where this method

has

> > been

> > > enumerated. Please let me know if it is there in the Deva Karalam.

> > Apart

> > > from this lets discuss some of the techniques and their results

which

> > have

> > > been found to be accurate.

> > > Plz revert.

> > > Thanx & Regards

> > > Sumit Bajaj

[Guest guest]

Dear Sumit ji and others,...Whenever Lord of 22nd drekana from Asc and

64th navamsha from Moon happen to transit a point deprived of an auspicious

bindu after 2 sodhanas are carried out and if that KAKSHYA happens to be owned

by transiting planets, DEATH is unavoidable….

The above statement by CS Patel, is quite valid and even

if not applicable verbatim, shows us a way to proceed. I've tried to test it with some cases with good rate of success...22nd Dreshkan from Ascendant and

64th navamsha from moon are two very sensitive points in a chart and

hence their lords become sensitive also. Since they are related with 8th

house, their affliction results in threat to life.

Whenever these points/lords are afflicted, it results in inauspicious results depending upon the severity of affliction. When

the affliction is seen in all the three areas: natal chart (promise), dasha

(fructification) and transit (delivery) the event becomes almost certain to

happen.

Some of the factors causing affliction in natal

chart could be:

Malefics afflicting 22nd Dk and/or 64 navamsh 22dk lord (DkL) or 64 nav lord (NvL) placed in trik houses.

Any PAC with lagna/LL with lagna/LL being afflictedLess/no benefic bindus in the sign and particularly in kaksha in

which they're placed

While in transit, the affliction is caused

with:

Malefics transiting the 22nd Dk and/or 64 navamsh22dk lord or 64 nav lord going to trik houses in transit.

Any PAC with lagna/LL with lagna/LL being afflictedThese lords transiting over a sign and particularly in kaksha

where they don't have a benefic pointTransiting in signs/kakshas of marak/trik lords

The affliction becomes very severe if the

planets are activated in dasha/antar also.

Here I am giving an example to show the event:

This is the case of a lady who passed away

on 18th

Nov 2007

Her birth details are: 24.10.1938/8.51/Delh --- scorpio lagna with venus in lagna,

jup in 3H, Sat in 5H, ket in 6H, LL mars in 11H, and a conjunction of Sun,

moon, mercury and rahu in 12H.

In this case 22nd DkL from

ascendant as well as moon is Mer and 64 NvL from moon is venus and from asc is

mars. While there were other indications also of death, if seen from the 22dkL and

64 nvL we observe the following: Dasha in operation: Dasha at the time of death was ve-mo-me

 

In the natal chart:

Mercury is, besides being 22DkL, is also 8L

and 11L. Is badly afflicted in natal chart being in 12H with rahu. Venus is also marak being 7L and 12L placed

in lagna (afflicts lagna)Mars is the lagna lord himself but also 6L

in 11th house and also 64 NvL from ascendant.

In the transit:

Mercury is transiting over exact natal

position in 12H, in kaksha of marak and MD lord Venus. It has no benefic bindu

in this kaksha. Venus is transiting over natal LL in virgo,

in it own kaksha, but has a bindu there (?) Was it required for venus to be

strong (being a maraca)Mars is retrograde, transiting in 8H over

22nd dreshkan, also in kaksha of venus. Here again mars is in kaksha

of venus but has a bindu there (?). Shall we again think the mars had to be

strong to afflict the 8H.At the time of death, Moon is in aquarius,

in exact conjunction with rahu and in trine to the natal rahu-moon conjunction.Mars, moon and mercury are in rahu's

nakshatra and venus, the MD lord is in moon's nakshatra.Thus, the possibility of such an event is clearly seen....regardsneelam

On 16/03/2008, Sumit Bajaj <sumitbajaj2000 wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear suniljii, thx a lot for the reply.

 

Now, the question is how to go about it. Its been 2 years i havent got a clue of the nadiamsa as detailed in Chandrakala Nadi. I will like a group to be formed specially for NADI Astrology and for the excavations of the techniques and knowledges which seems to be in " death bed " . We should if there is a concerted effort be able to bring out to the world these hidden and accurate techniques. If we could get the correct nadiamsa also it can be the first step for success.

 

I have imagined like, if we could put in a model the information about each kundli which we read like number of brother, sister, parents state, job, business etc. in a database and then if that could be analysed by a data miner through means of its modelling skills and other IT techniquess, then it will be possible to bring out certain rules based on this nadiamsa. But how far it will be successful can be known only after initiative is taken on.

 

I would advice all to let us form a group only based on Nadi astrology for the sake of this science. Please advice and reply.

 

Again, on C S Patel books a small clarification i had. Like he says " Whenever Lord of 22nd drekana from Asc and 64th navamsha from Moon happen to transit a point deprived of an auspicious bindu after 2 sodhanas are carried out and if that KAKSHYA happens to be owned by transiting planets, DEATH is unavoidable " . Has anyone have any view on this statemen? Has anyone applied and if yes then is it so accurate as Mr. Patel says so.I will like to know the intricasy of the same. Kindly reply

 

Thanx & regards

On 15/03/2008, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Hare ramakrishnadear sumit ji ,Thanks for the query .Now i hav to disppoint u and that article is not fully correct as nadiamsa is not fixed and depending on signs it changes ( what sreeram ji

said is correct its guru shapa _its written by sri Rayudu ) I justcopied it to giv a general awareness and sequence is correct butdegrees changes ,Also one should know how nadiamsa behaves and the lagnanadiamsa and the planets in each nadiamsa to know the real effects ,i

means the as the name suggests of each amsa its has got a defenitmeaning and its has to learn from guru mukha .So its passed down oralyand lack of good gurus and lack of sincere and discpilined studentsthose technics r already on death bed

This technics are explained in devakerala ,sathya nadi and druva nadi asfor as my knowledge but not in print editions .I think astrologicalmagazine published a gr8 deal quoting DRuva nadi ( but it was onserialised way than in book form )

So many translaters many dont know actual technics or usuages ,that isthe reason u find it difficult with those books .There was a gr8 man sri C S patel who knows abt it among the englishknowing famous gurus .But again he dont disclose it in printed editions

I am still trying on it may be one day i may be successfulTill then both of us can try our level best and offcource knowledge willcome to seekerHere i like to quote sri K N rao,the gr8 astro guru --- " yeh vidya gupt

hai ast nahi " ( if my my memory is correct -i read from some astro mag)regrds sunil nairom shreem mahalaxmai namah , " Sumit Bajaj "

<sumitbajaj2000 wrote:>> Hello All,>> The NADI System of astrology has been a source of attraction and Ihave been> very eager to learn about it. I have the Deva Keralam set which when i

went> through, it is found that it is difficult to apply the text in ourreadings.> What best could be done is to discern the techniques used and applythem.>> Now having gone thru the article by Mr . nair it is amazing to find

the> process of preparing the Nadi Chart. I wonder where this method hasbeen> enumerated. Please let me know if it is there in the Deva Karalam.Apart> from this lets discuss some of the techniques and their results which

have> been found to be accurate.> Plz revert.> Thanx & Regards> Sumit Bajaj>

-- Sumit BajajContact: +91-98300-84593

[Guest guest]

Dear Neelamji and other s,

 

It is a really wonderful example. One thing is that in respected B V Ramans

book i had seen that when saturn transits a point derived by adding the

positions of Saturn+ Jupiter + Sun + Moon (here it is aquarius 13 degree 22

minutes. This is where saturn was aspecting (7th aspect) degrecally also.

 

In this particular example it is seen that only mercury and mars were

transiting with zero bindu. And mars was exactly at that Khara. Again

question to be raised is that CS Patelji only refers to lord of 22nd

drekkana from ASCENDANT and lord of 64th Navamsha from MOON Only. (Mercury

and Venus respectively in the example).

 

Another observation: Count the no. of navamsha from Ketu to Mars coming to

69. Once that age was crossed on 24th Oct 07 the period of death started.

Moon being in 2nd half of navamsha she died before 14th Jan 08.

 

For clarification , Is this correct that A Kakshya is 3 degrees and 45

minutes and the the eight Kakshya rulers are Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun,

Venus, Mercury, Moon & the Ascendant ?

 

Thanx & Regards

Sumit Bajaj

 

 

 

On 16/03/2008, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Sumit ji and others,

>

> ...Whenever Lord of 22nd drekana from Asc and 64th navamsha from Moon

> happen to transit a point deprived of an auspicious bindu after 2 sodhanas

> are carried out and if that KAKSHYA happens to be owned by transiting

> planets, DEATH is unavoidable….

>

> The above statement by CS Patel, is quite valid and even if not applicable

> verbatim, shows us a way to proceed. I've tried to test it with some cases

> with good rate of success...

> 22nd Dreshkan from Ascendant and 64th navamsha from moon are two very

> sensitive points in a chart and hence their lords become sensitive also.

> Since they are related with 8th house, their affliction results in threat

> to life.

>

> Whenever these points/lords are afflicted, it results in inauspicious

> results depending upon the severity of affliction.

>

> When the affliction is seen in all the three areas: natal chart (promise),

> dasha (fructification) and transit (delivery) the event becomes almost

> certain to happen.

>

> Some of the factors causing affliction in natal chart could be:

>

> - Malefics afflicting 22nd Dk and/or 64 navamsh

> - 22dk lord (DkL) or 64 nav lord (NvL) placed in trik houses.

> - Any PAC with lagna/LL with lagna/LL being afflicted

> - Less/no benefic bindus in the sign and particularly in kaksha in

> which they're placed

>

> While in transit, the affliction is caused with:

>

> - Malefics transiting the 22nd Dk and/or 64 navamsh

> - 22dk lord or 64 nav lord going to trik houses in transit.

> - Any PAC with lagna/LL with lagna/LL being afflicted

> - These lords transiting over a sign and particularly in kaksha

> where they don't have a benefic point

> - Transiting in signs/kakshas of marak/trik lords

>

> The affliction becomes very severe if the planets are activated in

> dasha/antar also.

>

> Here I am giving an example to show the event:

>

> This is the case of a lady who passed away on 18th Nov 2007

>

> Her birth details are: 24.10.1938/8.51/Delh --- scorpio lagna with venus

> in lagna, jup in 3H, Sat in 5H, ket in 6H, LL mars in 11H, and a conjunction

> of Sun, moon, mercury and rahu in 12H.

>

> In this case 22nd DkL from ascendant as well as moon is Mer and 64 NvL

> from moon is venus and from asc is mars.

>

> While there were other indications also of death, if seen from the 22dkL

> and 64 nvL we observe the following:

>

> Dasha in operation:

>

> - Dasha at the time of death was ve-mo-me

>

> In the natal chart:

>

> - Mercury is, besides being 22DkL, is also 8L and 11L. Is badly

> afflicted in natal chart being in 12H with rahu.

> - Venus is also marak being 7L and 12L placed in lagna (afflicts

> lagna)

> - Mars is the lagna lord himself but also 6L in 11th house and also

> 64 NvL from ascendant.

>

> In the transit:

>

> - Mercury is transiting over exact natal position in 12H, in kaksha

> of marak and MD lord Venus. It has no benefic bindu in this kaksha.

> - Venus is transiting over natal LL in virgo, in it own kaksha, but

> has a bindu there (?) Was it required for venus to be strong (being a

> maraca)

> - Mars is retrograde, transiting in 8H over 22nd dreshkan, also in

> kaksha of venus. Here again mars is in kaksha of venus but has a bindu

there

> (?). Shall we again think the mars had to be strong to afflict the 8H.

> - At the time of death, Moon is in aquarius, in exact conjunction

> with rahu and in trine to the natal rahu-moon conjunction.

> - Mars, moon and mercury are in rahu's nakshatra and venus, the MD

> lord is in moon's nakshatra.

>

> Thus, the possibility of such an event is clearly seen....

>

> regards

>

> neelam