Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 dear grp . My opion abt karna pisachini or such baser spirit sidhis is that we can idetify if the reader or so called astrologer uses . Because they follow some rituals and it make the atmosphere in the place of reading a sort thick or choking atmosphere and ppl with satwik mind or delicate sensible mind the person can understand some thing wrong as if we stepped in some wrong places . and i dont think they can use diyas or other moorthies and poojas in that room which many readers ( wheter fake or good ) does . And even i heard the karna pisachini livs in one ear and u hav to keep some cloths or cotton soaked in extretia or urine in it and she livs there and tell s u . also so is the case of other baser spirits like mohini ,yakshini or what evr ( u hav to follow some ritual like offering raw meat and country alcohol and the sadak also consumes it whole as prasad ) And end of this ppl will be horrible as even u think this way how long a person can eat raw meat and country liquor and be healthy . Because the more u use them for ur reading the more they will be demanding all kind this ritual frm u and finaly u can be diseased and still u cant resist them or they will finish u off . So either way ur death will b horrible and mysterious . so think how many readers may be using it . I find some ppl who claims as astrologers and using this sidhis as when they say the name of u or wifes name then u will be subdued and ready to do any thing pooja or upay he recommends and shells out what ever u hav in ur purse thinking his remedies will solve ur problems . even i find one girl ( told her lover who is going to marry her will die soon if she dont do some bali of some goats to this astrologers seva moorthi and demanded 40,000 rs and she go out and immd within 10 minits she withdraw money frm ATM and paid him -because she blved him as he said the name of her lover and some details and even the other girls name who was chasing him and he told this girl done some bad thing on him and if he marry her this boy will die ) Also i got lot of exp abt this persons tru my customers ( and even i find highly educated persons fall for this ) i know once one foreigner was fooled by some saffron clad sadhu in a hotel as this sadhu told his girl frnds name ( that he was wondered within hrs of his landing in india and he met this sadhu outside hotel gate he was staying and sadhu asked some 200 dollars and said some thing ,said he will come back and meet him personaly as he has some imp thing to disclose and left and he nver see him again ) i hav seen such person one delhi and one in Trivandrum in kerala some readers of nadi in the name of checking leavs they extract every info frm u and supplying to u in the pretext of they saw in nadis ( this is the general tactics majority of the frauds doing ) and they hav some style which u cant resist it and u automaticaly discloses it without ur knowldge . But otherwise every family who is traditionaly in this has some secrets and some studies they must undergo and they employ this technics ( may be even they know real principles behind nadis ) But u know if the person is good ,the ppl will exploit his good ness and so finaly i find many persons cannot resist the impulse ofkaliyuga , Which i exp frm many rich as according our tradition we never asks fees or dakhsina but its understood that ppl r paying u according their capacity and so u can cater any one rich or poor But if u say this -esp in northern part of india ,u giv as ur wishes u may get 11 rs and a respectable adressing maharaj or guruji frm multicrore rich ppl too .Some astrologers even advised me take ur fees b4 hand and moniter their questions to 1or 3 or like other wise whole day they will sit and u end up reading may be 10 charts for them at the cost of 11rs .But in internet u can imagine ( u miss that 11 rs too ) I can say this is a viscious circle ,a difficult knot ,i dont know how we adress this problem .because kaliyuga is showing its full colors and spoiling every where .Its because of the society we livs they r making criminals . recently i got a feed back on one good astrologer now he fully changed after his marriage and now he scans ppl and entertains and if he sees u r a poor man then he will call u only when all rich or VIPs gone and also dont devotes even few minits on ur chart .But i cant blaim him too .As he also has his expenditures .because all other professions are high paying and he also has to liv in our society . every one expects the other person to be spiritual where as ur happy when ur son become a doctor and charges huge Bribes ( or any profession ) ,How many parents want their kids to be good and principled in real sense .They think this is the duty of another . these r my views and observation only . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Namaste Sunil ji, May I just touch on one aspect of your article.. In UK, especially in London, we get frequently get individuals from India, who appear to have some siddhi's etc.. They poach on unsuspecting individuals in the large supermarket carparks.. They start by saying a few things like.. u have had this or that problems etc of that there had been a wedding or death in family etc.. I wonder if they read faces?? The first one or two predictions seem true,, and then they want to tell u more and ask u to name a flower etc and ask a question etc. Their aim is to fraudualently get u to give them money and give them phone and home details etc,, and then u are subjected to emotional blackmail etc.. u have to do very expensive poojas or someone close is going to die etc.. The last few years the police have had these people arrested, charged and deported.. Still many fall victim to these fraudsters and some live with the fear that something nasty will happen to them and their families because the 'Holy person' has cursed them etc.. Regards Sheevani , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > dear grp . > > My opion abt karna pisachini or such baser spirit sidhis is that we > can idetify if the reader or so called astrologer uses . > > > > Because they follow some rituals and it make the atmosphere in the place > of reading a sort thick or choking atmosphere and ppl with satwik mind > or delicate sensible mind the person can understand some thing wrong as > if we stepped in some wrong places . > > > > and i dont think they can use diyas or other moorthies and poojas in > that room which many readers ( wheter fake or good ) does . > > > > And even i heard the karna pisachini livs in one ear and u hav to keep > some cloths or cotton soaked in extretia or urine in it and she livs > there and tell s u . > > > > also so is the case of other baser spirits like mohini ,yakshini or what > evr ( u hav to follow some ritual like offering raw meat and country > alcohol and the sadak also consumes it whole as prasad ) > > > > And end of this ppl will be horrible as even u think this way how long a > person can eat raw meat and country liquor and be healthy . > > > > Because the more u use them for ur reading the more they will be > demanding all kind this ritual frm u and finaly u can be diseased and > still u cant resist them or they will finish u off . > > > > So either way ur death will b horrible and mysterious . > > > > so think how many readers may be using it . > > > > I find some ppl who claims as astrologers and using this sidhis as when > they say the name of u or wifes name then u will be subdued and ready > to do any thing pooja or upay he recommends and shells out what ever u > hav in ur purse thinking his remedies will solve ur problems . even i > find one girl ( told her lover who is going to marry her will die soon > if she dont do some bali of some goats to this astrologers seva moorthi > and demanded 40,000 rs and she go out and immd within 10 minits she > withdraw money frm ATM and paid him -because she blved him as he said > the name of her lover and some details and even the other girls name who > was chasing him and he told this girl done some bad thing on him and if > he marry her this boy will die ) > > > > Also i got lot of exp abt this persons tru my customers ( and even i > find highly educated persons fall for this ) > > > > i know once one foreigner was fooled by some saffron clad sadhu in a > hotel as this sadhu told his girl frnds name ( that he was wondered > within hrs of his landing in india and he met this sadhu outside hotel > gate he was staying and sadhu asked some 200 dollars and said some thing > ,said he will come back and meet him personaly as he has some imp thing > to disclose and left and he nver see him again ) > > > > i hav seen such person one delhi and one in Trivandrum in kerala > > > > some readers of nadi in the name of checking leavs they extract every > info frm u and supplying to u in the pretext of they saw in nadis ( this > is the general tactics majority of the frauds doing ) and they hav some > style which u cant resist it and u automaticaly discloses it without ur > knowldge . > > > > But otherwise every family who is traditionaly in this has some secrets > and some studies they must undergo and they employ this technics ( may > be even they know real principles behind nadis ) But u know if the > person is good ,the ppl will exploit his good ness and so finaly i find > many persons cannot resist the impulse ofkaliyuga , > > > > Which i exp frm many rich as according our tradition we never asks fees > or dakhsina but its understood that ppl r paying u according their > capacity and so u can cater any one rich or poor But if u say this - esp > in northern part of india ,u giv as ur wishes u may get 11 rs and a > respectable adressing maharaj or guruji frm multicrore rich ppl too > .Some astrologers even advised me take ur fees b4 hand and moniter their > questions to 1or 3 or like other wise whole day they will sit and u end > up reading may be 10 charts for them at the cost of 11rs .But in > internet u can imagine ( u miss that 11 rs too ) > > > > I can say this is a viscious circle ,a difficult knot ,i dont know how > we adress this problem .because kaliyuga is showing its full colors and > spoiling every where .Its because of the society we livs they r making > criminals . > > > > recently i got a feed back on one good astrologer now he fully changed > after his marriage and now he scans ppl and entertains and if he sees u > r a poor man then he will call u only when all rich or VIPs gone and > also dont devotes even few minits on ur chart .But i cant blaim him too > .As he also has his expenditures .because all other professions are high > paying and he also has to liv in our society . > > every one expects the other person to be spiritual where as ur happy > when ur son become a doctor and charges huge Bribes ( or any profession > ) ,How many parents want their kids to be good and principled in real > sense .They think this is the duty of another . > > > > these r my views and observation only . > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear shivani ji , it is not face reading ,if they can read ur face and predict properly they can make a good living in any western country unlike here many expect u to do free ,Recently one lady sent me a mail for consultancy and i replied her that i am full time astrologer and and i do paid reading only .So she sent me reply as ,sorry to hear that i am jobless and she can bless me to get a job and pls giv the reading and another funny thing is that she approached every known living astrologer in forums on regular basis and keep on taunting too. So this persons are using this minor devata ( baser spirit sidhis ) and that is y they operate this way .Even i think the gypsies and crystal grazers of west has some spirits and they employ it .Openly they pose as tarrot readers or some egyptian cofee pot readers .But they operate in more decent way than this indians .The main reason is I find old genration who migrated is uneduated ( once i was in Londn -muscut -bombay flight and i boarded frm muscut -so airhostess asked me to help her to fill the disembarcation cards (during 98 ) while we were nearing mumbai ,i was surprised as the whole crowd was frm LOndon and i was the only passenger who boarded frm muscut ) ,so they carry all this kind of this blvfs ( sorry if i am wrong ) But ppl r after miracles and no body want to hear it s ur bad time and pls wait for now or pray . rt now i got a call frm a girl (indian student ) frm London ( she suspects her lover is cheating on her ) and she is ready to pay any amnt to keep him with her . So ppl dont wanted to hear wats in ur destiny or what is ur dasa ,they expect us to do some magik and by hook or crook they wanted to win . Amother aspect of consumerism -i am ready to pay anything but i want this or i hav money and i want it ( so no karma theorey or no dharma lectures --they just dont wanted to hear anything ) regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "sheevani147" <sheevani147 wrote:>> Namaste Sunil ji,> > May I just touch on one aspect of your article.. > > In UK, especially in London, we get frequently get individuals from > India, who appear to have some siddhi's etc.. They poach on > unsuspecting individuals in the large supermarket carparks..> > They start by saying a few things like.. u have had this or that > problems etc of that there had been a wedding or death in family etc..> > I wonder if they read faces??> > The first one or two predictions seem true,, and then they want to > tell u more and ask u to name a flower etc and ask a question etc. > Their aim is to fraudualently get u to give them money and give them > phone and home details etc,, and then u are subjected to emotional > blackmail etc.. u have to do very expensive poojas or someone close > is going to die etc..> > The last few years the police have had these people arrested, charged > and deported.. Still many fall victim to these fraudsters and some > live with the fear that something nasty will happen to them and their > families because the 'Holy person' has cursed them etc..> > Regards> Sheevani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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