Vimsottari Dasa - List of Queries-Answers

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Sreeram_Comments: See my comments below against each query.

I am learning Vimsottari dasa for timing of events. I request Sunilji, Sreeramji to help out with my gaps in understanding.

Sreeram_Comments: We are also learning through public grilling from sincere people like you, so do take a considerate view of our limited knowledge answers.***************************************************************************************I observe that if we take Vimsottari dasa starting from Lagna instead of Moon, the entire sequence of planets changes!! Hence the rules we should consider before taking Vimsottari Dasa started from Moon or Lagna - and this becomes important.One rule is that we take it from whichever is stronger.Query 1:How to decide which is stronger? One with more planets in quadrants from itself is stronger. Is this correcT?

Sreeram_Comments: See the sign in which it is placed invidually. Consider Saturn & Mars conjunct in Capricon. Saturn is in own house, Mars is exalted. Both are technically in strength. See closely, who is holding the baton ?? It is Saturn so Saturn is more powerful. So Mars exaltation is no THREAT to Saturn, who is sitting in his own house listening to his own country music with Coffee or Tea or a Bottle of Wine or Beer.***************************************************************************************For simplicity I am starting only with Mahadasa (MD), Pratyantardasa (PD) combinations i.e Vimsottari dasa down upto 2 levels only.Say Mahadasa is of planet X.Antardasa is of planet Y.Consider X-Y period:Query 2: What if X and Y indicate opposite results. If X indicates gain of wealth and Y indicates loss of wealth, what should we predict a) Gain of wealth as indicated by X, MD Lordb) No change in wealth as X and Y are oppositeSreeram_Comments: Predict overall loss and some grace of recovery. Go back to Query No.1 when in doubt. Saturn in own house, with lesser comforts, is still enjoying all his benefits - note my example of drinks in Query No.1.Query 3: What if X does not signify wealth and Y signifiies gain/loss or wealth. Can the AD Lord Y give results that are not even signified/supported by MD lord XSreeram_Comments: Over all damage countrol BATON lies with Mahadasha Lord. If he is strong he would ensure that all planets fall in line. Mahadasha Lord is the C.E.O weilding the baton. Antar Dasha Lord is the Middle Level Manager, who is given the task to execute with help of Pratyantar Dasha Lord and field execute. Between CEO & Manager, CEO rules over him, unless CEO is strong enough, else, we let us go back to Akbar Vs Birbal of "Amar Chitra Kathas" { Amar Chitra Katha - comic story telling publications}. Akbar is CEO, yet our Manager Birbal always scores over him !!! Not convinced ??

Let us again go back to my Chandamama Stories { Again kid story telling publications}. Take example of Tenali Rama Krishna Vs. Krishnadevaraya. Inspite of Krishnadevaraya being strong & good administrator, Tenali Rama Krishna beats him blue in all fronts.

Extend the same logics to Pratyantar Lord and others. If CEO & Field Executive are in good relations, what can this Manager can complain of ?? Similarly, Manager & Field Executive gang up against CEO ?? Again CEO & Manager together play with Field Executive....he will have tought time.....

So see the condition of the planets - Sign, House, amsa, Nakshatra Lordship. Important to see the natural & Temporal friendships here.....and put them in the followining order

All the below is with respect to Lagna + Vis-a-Vis w.r.t. to respective planets amongst themselves

CEO Manager Executive

Friend -Neutral -Enemy

Friend Enemy Enemy

Friend Enemy Friend

Enemy Friend Friend

Enemy Friend Enemy

Enemy Enemy Enemy

*******************************************************Query 4:Suppose Z is lord of a house and signifies results - Is it that these results are likely to give full result only in some period MD/AD of Z?Suppose X MD Lord is enemy of Z, Will Z fail to give results/give bad results in X period?Suppose X MD Lord is friend of Z, does it mean X will give results easily?Sreeram_Comments: Moderate the results whenever you see Friend - Enemy - Enemy combinations and good results when you see Friend - Friend - Friend. For other combinations... make your own conclusions on above lines.******************************************************Query 6:Your comments on this statement:Planets in sirsodaya2 (head rising) signs give results (good or bad) atthe beginning (first 1/3rd portion) of their dasa/antar. Planets inpristodaya3 signs (back rising) give results at the end (last 1/3rdportion) of their period and planets in ubhayodaya4 (both rising onlyPisces) give results in the middle (middle 1/3rd portion) of theirperiods.Is above same for benefic and malefic planets?Sreeram_Comments: Those are specific to the dasha results. But still the above applies. Those are general statements, very important to note at times, depending upon the query.

Query 7:Suppose say lord of house is A and MD period is of planet X who is malefic and aspecting house lorded by A.So who has more say in what happens during that period - A or XSreeram_Comments: Whenever, a planet aspects, it transfer part of its qualities - positive or negative to it. It is something that you are going to shopping that someone has handed you his list to you to do the needful. {Someone can be your friend or your Office Boss or your girl friend!!}. If it is Office Boss, then you can surely forget your own shopping list, incase of your girl friend, same thing applies, forget your own shopping list, for you obviously would be left nothing in your wallet to buy for yourself.....!!!??!!!

ThanksKiranSreeram_Comments: This is my non-astro description of astrology, for public reading. Though a lighter way of saying, yet brings clarity.

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Hello Dear Members.

 

Dear Sreeramji,

 

I had recently joined this group and am a silent member.

 

I think your explanation with CEO, Mgr and FE was amazing. It gives me a

very good understanding on how to predict the results of Dasa's.

 

About me - I am just a beginner on my baby steps towards ancient

astrology.

 

Thank you again.

 

Regards

 

Sejal Maheta (SM)

 

, " sreeram srinivas "

<sreeram64 wrote:

>

>

> Sreeram_Comments: See my comments below against each query.

>

> I am learning Vimsottari dasa for timing of events. I request Sunilji,

> Sreeramji to help out with my gaps in understanding.

>

> Sreeram_Comments: We are also learning through public grilling from

> sincere people like you, so do take a considerate view of our limited

> knowledge answers.

>

>

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> ***************

> I observe that if we take Vimsottari dasa starting from Lagna instead

of

> Moon, the entire sequence of planets changes!! Hence the rules we

should

> consider before taking Vimsottari Dasa started from Moon or Lagna -

and

> this becomes important.

>

> One rule is that we take it from whichever is stronger.

>

> Query 1:

> How to decide which is stronger? One with more planets in quadrants

from

> itself is stronger. Is this correcT?

>

> Sreeram_Comments: See the sign in which it is placed invidually.

> Consider Saturn & Mars conjunct in Capricon. Saturn is in own house,

> Mars is exalted. Both are technically in strength. See closely, who

> is holding the baton ?? It is Saturn so Saturn is more powerful. So

> Mars exaltation is no THREAT to Saturn, who is sitting in his own

house

> listening to his own country music with Coffee or Tea or a Bottle of

> Wine or Beer.

>

>

************************************************************************\

\

> ***************

> For simplicity I am starting only with Mahadasa (MD), Pratyantardasa

> (PD) combinations i.e Vimsottari dasa down upto 2 levels only.

>

> Say Mahadasa is of planet X.

> Antardasa is of planet Y.

>

> Consider X-Y period:

> Query 2: What if X and Y indicate opposite results. If X indicates

gain

> of wealth and Y indicates loss of wealth, what should we predict

> a) Gain of wealth as indicated by X, MD Lord

> b) No change in wealth as X and Y are opposite

> Sreeram_Comments: Predict overall loss and some grace of recovery. Go

> back to Query No.1 when in doubt. Saturn in own house, with lesser

> comforts, is still enjoying all his benefits - note my example of

drinks

> in Query No.1.

> Query 3: What if X does not signify wealth and Y signifiies gain/loss

or

> wealth. Can the AD Lord Y give results that are not even

> signified/supported by MD lord X

> Sreeram_Comments: Over all damage countrol BATON lies with Mahadasha

> Lord. If he is strong he would ensure that all planets fall in line.

> Mahadasha Lord is the C.E.O weilding the baton. Antar Dasha Lord is

> the Middle Level Manager, who is given the task to execute with help

of

> Pratyantar Dasha Lord and field execute. Between CEO & Manager, CEO

> rules over him, unless CEO is strong enough, else, we let us go back

to

> Akbar Vs Birbal of " Amar Chitra Kathas " { Amar Chitra Katha - comic

> story telling publications}. Akbar is CEO, yet our Manager Birbal

> always scores over him !!! Not convinced ??

>

> Let us again go back to my Chandamama Stories { Again kid story

telling

> publications}. Take example of Tenali Rama Krishna Vs.

Krishnadevaraya.

> Inspite of Krishnadevaraya being strong & good administrator, Tenali

> Rama Krishna beats him blue in all fronts.

>

> Extend the same logics to Pratyantar Lord and others. If CEO & Field

> Executive are in good relations, what can this Manager can complain of

> ?? Similarly, Manager & Field Executive gang up against CEO ?? Again

> CEO & Manager together play with Field Executive....he will have

tought

> time.....

>

> So see the condition of the planets - Sign, House, amsa, Nakshatra

> Lordship. Important to see the natural & Temporal friendships

> here.....and put them in the followining order

>

> All the below is with respect to Lagna + Vis-a-Vis w.r.t. to

respective

> planets amongst themselves

>

> CEO Manager Executive

>

> Friend -Neutral -Enemy

>

> Friend Enemy Enemy

>

> Friend Enemy Friend

>

> Enemy Friend Friend

>

> Enemy Friend Enemy

>

> Enemy Enemy Enemy

>

>

> *******************************************************

> Query 4:

> Suppose Z is lord of a house and signifies results - Is it that these

> results are likely to give full result only in some period MD/AD of Z?

> Suppose X MD Lord is enemy of Z, Will Z fail to give results/give bad

> results in X period?

> Suppose X MD Lord is friend of Z, does it mean X will give results

> easily?

> Sreeram_Comments: Moderate the results whenever you see Friend -

> Enemy - Enemy combinations and good results when you see Friend -

Friend

> - Friend. For other combinations... make your own conclusions on above

> lines.

> ******************************************************

> Query 6:

> Your comments on this statement:

> Planets in sirsodaya2 (head rising) signs give results (good or bad)

at

> the beginning (first 1/3rd portion) of their dasa/antar. Planets in

> pristodaya3 signs (back rising) give results at the end (last 1/3rd

> portion) of their period and planets in ubhayodaya4 (both rising only

> Pisces) give results in the middle (middle 1/3rd portion) of their

> periods.

> Is above same for benefic and malefic planets?

> Sreeram_Comments: Those are specific to the dasha results. But still

> the above applies. Those are general statements, very important to

note

> at times, depending upon the query.

>

> Query 7:

> Suppose say lord of house is A and MD period is of planet X who is

> malefic and aspecting house lorded by A.

> So who has more say in what happens during that period - A or X

> Sreeram_Comments: Whenever, a planet aspects, it transfer part of its

> qualities - positive or negative to it. It is something that you are

> going to shopping that someone has handed you his list to you to do

the

> needful. {Someone can be your friend or your Office Boss or your girl

> friend!!}. If it is Office Boss, then you can surely forget your own

> shopping list, incase of your girl friend, same thing applies, forget

> your own shopping list, for you obviously would be left nothing in

your

> wallet to buy for yourself.....!!!??!!!

>

> Thanks

> Kiran

> Sreeram_Comments: This is my non-astro description of astrology, for

> public reading. Though a lighter way of saying, yet brings clarity.

>