Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Dear Chandra ji Yes i agree that diplomacy is kind of hypocricy or spineless act :-). However i feel Goel ji is free to express his ''personal opinion''. The problem starts when people starts trying to sell ''own theories'' in the name of vedic astrology and that too with authentication signatures. But we also have a choice to logically and pramana wise counter the personal views and understandings of such views.Then it is in line with the principles of Tarka. I agree that considerable damage has been done to astrology because of violating fundamental principles.This can change only and if and only if respected members like Goel ji are willing to take a relook at basics.No one is entitled to re-define fundamentals as formulated by Mahamunis. Pradeep , " chandra_hari18 " <chandra_hari18 wrote: > > > Dear Pradeep, > > If he is free to hold his personal opinion, then people like him can > have their astrology, their sciences - all and their own versions for > everything. Such people should not be allowed to telecast their mental > malady into the Public. > > Such theories reflect the grooming that certain students receive in > certain places. > > chandra hari > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Goel ji > > > > Classics have only spoken about a planet or Lagna(rising degree) > > being in Vargottama. > > > > If we study the ganita part of astrology and divisions, or the > > paramanas one can never speak of Bhava Vargottama. > > > > The reason is simple.Check the following instance - Take any chart > > with Lagna in Vargottama.You will find that all the ''bhavas'' are in > > Vargottama in those charts.Thus one can say Lagna is Vargottama.Rest > > is redundant.Amshas are not for bhavas.It is sad to note how basics > > are twisted. > > > > Thus there are no such Vargottamas as per my understanding and as > > mentioned by sages. > > > > You are free to hold your personal opionion. > > > > Regards > > Pradeep > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Dear Pradeep ji, Well said! ==> > Yes i agree that diplomacy is kind of hypocrisy or spineless act :-). <== Yes, me too agree. ==> > However i feel Goel ji is free to express his ''personal opinion''. > The problem starts when people starts trying to sell ''own theories'' > in the name of vedic astrology and that too with authentication > signatures. <== True!!! Yes, the authentication signatures, which are actually nothing but mis guiding without understanding, that cause the problem. ==> > But we also have a choice to logically and pramana wise counter the > personal views and understandings of such views.Then it is in line > with the principles of Tarka. <== Yes, but it is nothing but waste of time for us - and that is the problem we face; why should we waste that much time, if Goel ji is not ready to listen and still not seeing the point? Most of his statements are throughly against the fundamentals!! Then where should be the tarka start? How much time it will take? Will Goel ji listen to the same and evolve? If all these is not going to happen - why waste too much time after that? Is it not better to use that time for better purpose? ==> > I agree that considerable damage has been done to astrology because > of violating fundamental principles.This can change only and if and > only if respected members like Goel ji are willing to take a relook > at basics.No one is entitled to re-define fundamentals as formulated > by Mahamunis. <== True. :=) Love and regards, Sreenadh , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear Chandra ji > > Yes i agree that diplomacy is kind of hypocricy or spineless act :-). > > However i feel Goel ji is free to express his ''personal opinion''. > > The problem starts when people starts trying to sell ''own theories'' > in the name of vedic astrology and that too with authentication > signatures. > > But we also have a choice to logically and pramana wise counter the > personal views and understandings of such views.Then it is in line > with the principles of Tarka. > > I agree that considerable damage has been done to astrology because > of violating fundamental principles.This can change only and if and > only if respected members like Goel ji are willing to take a relook > at basics.No one is entitled to re-define fundamentals as formulated > by Mahamunis. > > Pradeep > > > > , " chandra_hari18 " > chandra_hari18@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > If he is free to hold his personal opinion, then people like him can > > have their astrology, their sciences - all and their own versions > for > > everything. Such people should not be allowed to telecast their > mental > > malady into the Public. > > > > Such theories reflect the grooming that certain students receive in > > certain places. > > > > chandra hari > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Goel ji > > > > > > Classics have only spoken about a planet or Lagna(rising degree) > > > being in Vargottama. > > > > > > If we study the ganita part of astrology and divisions, or the > > > paramanas one can never speak of Bhava Vargottama. > > > > > > The reason is simple.Check the following instance - Take any chart > > > with Lagna in Vargottama.You will find that all the ''bhavas'' > are in > > > Vargottama in those charts.Thus one can say Lagna is > Vargottama.Rest > > > is redundant.Amshas are not for bhavas.It is sad to note how > basics > > > are twisted. > > > > > > Thus there are no such Vargottamas as per my understanding and as > > > mentioned by sages. > > > > > > You are free to hold your personal opionion. > > > > > > Regards > > > Pradeep > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Dear Sreenadh ji Thank you for the comments and views. PVR Narasimha Rao ji had given full freedom to express my views in his forum eventhough ,i was against his understandings/views. Thus Shri Goel and others may be given a chance to express their personal views ,which can then be countered using logic/pramana. This is my view and it is upto you to decide as i am not the owner of this group:-). Regds Pradeep , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Pradeep ji, > Well said! > ==> > > Yes i agree that diplomacy is kind of hypocrisy or spineless act :-). > <== > Yes, me too agree. > ==> > > However i feel Goel ji is free to express his ''personal opinion''. > > The problem starts when people starts trying to sell ''own theories'' > > in the name of vedic astrology and that too with authentication > > signatures. > <== > True!!! Yes, the authentication signatures, which are actually > nothing but mis guiding without understanding, that cause the problem. > ==> > > But we also have a choice to logically and pramana wise counter the > > personal views and understandings of such views.Then it is in line > > with the principles of Tarka. > <== > Yes, but it is nothing but waste of time for us - and that is the > problem we face; why should we waste that much time, if Goel ji is not > ready to listen and still not seeing the point? Most of his statements > are throughly against the fundamentals!! Then where should be the tarka > start? How much time it will take? Will Goel ji listen to the same and > evolve? If all these is not going to happen - why waste too much time > after that? Is it not better to use that time for better purpose? > ==> > > I agree that considerable damage has been done to astrology because > > of violating fundamental principles.This can change only and if and > > only if respected members like Goel ji are willing to take a relook > > at basics.No one is entitled to re-define fundamentals as formulated > > by Mahamunis. > <== > True. :=) > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Chandra ji > > > > Yes i agree that diplomacy is kind of hypocricy or spineless act :-). > > > > However i feel Goel ji is free to express his ''personal opinion''. > > > > The problem starts when people starts trying to sell ''own theories'' > > in the name of vedic astrology and that too with authentication > > signatures. > > > > But we also have a choice to logically and pramana wise counter the > > personal views and understandings of such views.Then it is in line > > with the principles of Tarka. > > > > I agree that considerable damage has been done to astrology because > > of violating fundamental principles.This can change only and if and > > only if respected members like Goel ji are willing to take a relook > > at basics.No one is entitled to re-define fundamentals as formulated > > by Mahamunis. > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > , " chandra_hari18 " > > chandra_hari18@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > If he is free to hold his personal opinion, then people like him can > > > have their astrology, their sciences - all and their own versions > > for > > > everything. Such people should not be allowed to telecast their > > mental > > > malady into the Public. > > > > > > Such theories reflect the grooming that certain students receive in > > > certain places. > > > > > > chandra hari > > > --- In , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste Goel ji > > > > > > > > Classics have only spoken about a planet or Lagna(rising degree) > > > > being in Vargottama. > > > > > > > > If we study the ganita part of astrology and divisions, or the > > > > paramanas one can never speak of Bhava Vargottama. > > > > > > > > The reason is simple.Check the following instance - Take any chart > > > > with Lagna in Vargottama.You will find that all the ''bhavas'' > > are in > > > > Vargottama in those charts.Thus one can say Lagna is > > Vargottama.Rest > > > > is redundant.Amshas are not for bhavas.It is sad to note how > > basics > > > > are twisted. > > > > > > > > Thus there are no such Vargottamas as per my understanding and as > > > > mentioned by sages. > > > > > > > > You are free to hold your personal opionion. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Dear Pradeep ji, Goel ji is free to express his views and others like Chandrahari ji is free to criticize it. As far as I am concerned, I hold my self back from responding to the mails of Goel ji due to prior mentioned reasons. It is all related to individual spines. I would be love to be spineless than trying to become spine full by supporting the baseless arguments/presentation of goel ji in most of the situations; but also will appreciate him when ever he presents something valid and effortful. Just the quality of a unique spine. ;=) Note: By the way I am not PVR, and Chandrahari too is not I know; PVR is PVR and Chandrahari is Chandrahari and I am Me; It is better not to compare things at times. :)Love and regards,Sreenadh , "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji> > Thank you for the comments and views.> PVR Narasimha Rao ji had given full freedom to express my views in > his forum eventhough ,i was against his understandings/views.> > Thus Shri Goel and others may be given a chance to express their > personal views ,which can then be countered using logic/pramana.> > This is my view and it is upto you to decide as i am not the owner of > this group:-).> > Regds> Pradeep> > > , "Sreenadh" > sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Pradeep ji,> > Well said!> > ==>> > > Yes i agree that diplomacy is kind of hypocrisy or spineless > act :-).> > <==> > Yes, me too agree. > > ==>> > > However i feel Goel ji is free to express his ''personal > opinion''.> > > The problem starts when people starts trying to sell ''own > theories''> > > in the name of vedic astrology and that too with authentication> > > signatures.> > <==> > True!!! Yes, the authentication signatures, which are actually> > nothing but mis guiding without understanding, that cause the > problem.> > ==>> > > But we also have a choice to logically and pramana wise counter > the> > > personal views and understandings of such views.Then it is in line> > > with the principles of Tarka.> > <==> > Yes, but it is nothing but waste of time for us - and that is the> > problem we face; why should we waste that much time, if Goel ji is > not> > ready to listen and still not seeing the point? Most of his > statements> > are throughly against the fundamentals!! Then where should be the > tarka> > start? How much time it will take? Will Goel ji listen to the same > and> > evolve? If all these is not going to happen - why waste too much > time> > after that? Is it not better to use that time for better purpose?> > ==>> > > I agree that considerable damage has been done to astrology > because> > > of violating fundamental principles.This can change only and if > and> > > only if respected members like Goel ji are willing to take a > relook> > > at basics.No one is entitled to re-define fundamentals as > formulated> > > by Mahamunis.> > <==> > True. :=)> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , "vijayadas_pradeep"> > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Chandra ji> > >> > > Yes i agree that diplomacy is kind of hypocricy or spineless > act :-).> > >> > > However i feel Goel ji is free to express his ''personal > opinion''.> > >> > > The problem starts when people starts trying to sell ''own > theories''> > > in the name of vedic astrology and that too with authentication> > > signatures.> > >> > > But we also have a choice to logically and pramana wise counter > the> > > personal views and understandings of such views.Then it is in line> > > with the principles of Tarka.> > >> > > I agree that considerable damage has been done to astrology > because> > > of violating fundamental principles.This can change only and if > and> > > only if respected members like Goel ji are willing to take a > relook> > > at basics.No one is entitled to re-define fundamentals as > formulated> > > by Mahamunis.> > >> > > Pradeep> > >> > >> > >> > > , "chandra_hari18"> > > chandra_hari18@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Pradeep,> > > >> > > > If he is free to hold his personal opinion, then people like > him can> > > > have their astrology, their sciences - all and their own > versions> > > for> > > > everything. Such people should not be allowed to telecast their> > > mental> > > > malady into the Public.> > > >> > > > Such theories reflect the grooming that certain students > receive in> > > > certain places.> > > >> > > > chandra hari> > > > > , "vijayadas_pradeep"> > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Namaste Goel ji> > > > >> > > > > Classics have only spoken about a planet or Lagna(rising > degree)> > > > > being in Vargottama.> > > > >> > > > > If we study the ganita part of astrology and divisions, or the> > > > > paramanas one can never speak of Bhava Vargottama.> > > > >> > > > > The reason is simple.Check the following instance - Take any > chart> > > > > with Lagna in Vargottama.You will find that all the ''bhavas''> > > are in> > > > > Vargottama in those charts.Thus one can say Lagna is> > > Vargottama.Rest> > > > > is redundant.Amshas are not for bhavas.It is sad to note how> > > basics> > > > > are twisted.> > > > >> > > > > Thus there are no such Vargottamas as per my understanding > and as> > > > > mentioned by sages.> > > > >> > > > > You are free to hold your personal opionion.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Pradeep> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Dear Sreenadh ji Yes you are right.We may not compare individuals.My intention was not to compare individuals.Giving fair chance to all was the point. Idelogical differences are there.Do agree.But We all are brothers as well-Agree/Disagree ?:-). Pradeep , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Pradeep ji, > Goel ji is free to express his views and others like Chandrahari ji > is free to criticize it. As far as I am concerned, I hold my self back > from responding to the mails of Goel ji due to prior mentioned reasons. > It is all related to individual spines. I would be love to be > spineless than trying to become spine full by supporting the baseless > arguments/presentation of goel ji in most of the situations; but also > will appreciate him when ever he presents something valid and effortful. > Just the quality of a unique spine. ;=) > Note: By the way I am not PVR, and Chandrahari too is not I know; PVR > is PVR and Chandrahari is Chandrahari and I am Me; It is better not to > compare things at times. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji > > > > Thank you for the comments and views. > > PVR Narasimha Rao ji had given full freedom to express my views in > > his forum eventhough ,i was against his understandings/views. > > > > Thus Shri Goel and others may be given a chance to express their > > personal views ,which can then be countered using logic/pramana. > > > > This is my view and it is upto you to decide as i am not the owner of > > this group:-). > > > > Regds > > Pradeep > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > > > Well said! > > > ==> > > > > Yes i agree that diplomacy is kind of hypocrisy or spineless > > act :-). > > > <== > > > Yes, me too agree. > > > ==> > > > > However i feel Goel ji is free to express his ''personal > > opinion''. > > > > The problem starts when people starts trying to sell ''own > > theories'' > > > > in the name of vedic astrology and that too with authentication > > > > signatures. > > > <== > > > True!!! Yes, the authentication signatures, which are actually > > > nothing but mis guiding without understanding, that cause the > > problem. > > > ==> > > > > But we also have a choice to logically and pramana wise counter > > the > > > > personal views and understandings of such views.Then it is in line > > > > with the principles of Tarka. > > > <== > > > Yes, but it is nothing but waste of time for us - and that is the > > > problem we face; why should we waste that much time, if Goel ji is > > not > > > ready to listen and still not seeing the point? Most of his > > statements > > > are throughly against the fundamentals!! Then where should be the > > tarka > > > start? How much time it will take? Will Goel ji listen to the same > > and > > > evolve? If all these is not going to happen - why waste too much > > time > > > after that? Is it not better to use that time for better purpose? > > > ==> > > > > I agree that considerable damage has been done to astrology > > because > > > > of violating fundamental principles.This can change only and if > > and > > > > only if respected members like Goel ji are willing to take a > > relook > > > > at basics.No one is entitled to re-define fundamentals as > > formulated > > > > by Mahamunis. > > > <== > > > True. :=) > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > --- In , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandra ji > > > > > > > > Yes i agree that diplomacy is kind of hypocricy or spineless > > act :-). > > > > > > > > However i feel Goel ji is free to express his ''personal > > opinion''. > > > > > > > > The problem starts when people starts trying to sell ''own > > theories'' > > > > in the name of vedic astrology and that too with authentication > > > > signatures. > > > > > > > > But we also have a choice to logically and pramana wise counter > > the > > > > personal views and understandings of such views.Then it is in line > > > > with the principles of Tarka. > > > > > > > > I agree that considerable damage has been done to astrology > > because > > > > of violating fundamental principles.This can change only and if > > and > > > > only if respected members like Goel ji are willing to take a > > relook > > > > at basics.No one is entitled to re-define fundamentals as > > formulated > > > > by Mahamunis. > > > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " chandra_hari18 " > > > > chandra_hari18@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > > > > > If he is free to hold his personal opinion, then people like > > him can > > > > > have their astrology, their sciences - all and their own > > versions > > > > for > > > > > everything. Such people should not be allowed to telecast their > > > > mental > > > > > malady into the Public. > > > > > > > > > > Such theories reflect the grooming that certain students > > receive in > > > > > certain places. > > > > > > > > > > chandra hari > > > > > --- In > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Goel ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Classics have only spoken about a planet or Lagna(rising > > degree) > > > > > > being in Vargottama. > > > > > > > > > > > > If we study the ganita part of astrology and divisions, or the > > > > > > paramanas one can never speak of Bhava Vargottama. > > > > > > > > > > > > The reason is simple.Check the following instance - Take any > > chart > > > > > > with Lagna in Vargottama.You will find that all the ''bhavas'' > > > > are in > > > > > > Vargottama in those charts.Thus one can say Lagna is > > > > Vargottama.Rest > > > > > > is redundant.Amshas are not for bhavas.It is sad to note how > > > > basics > > > > > > are twisted. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus there are no such Vargottamas as per my understanding > > and as > > > > > > mentioned by sages. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are free to hold your personal opionion. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Dear Pradeep ji, Agree - and also remember that Goel ji has contributed to the group with some very good and effort full articles at times in this group; he is a worthy member of this group. Ideological difference is one thing and being the member is of the same group another; definitely he is one of the family member in this astrology group.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji> > Yes you are right.We may not compare individuals.My intention was not > to compare individuals.Giving fair chance to all was the point.> > Idelogical differences are there.Do agree.But We all are brothers as > well-Agree/Disagree ?:-).> > > Pradeep> > > , "Sreenadh" > sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Pradeep ji,> > Goel ji is free to express his views and others like > Chandrahari ji> > is free to criticize it. As far as I am concerned, I hold my self > back> > from responding to the mails of Goel ji due to prior mentioned > reasons.> > It is all related to individual spines. I would be love to be> > spineless than trying to become spine full by supporting the > baseless> > arguments/presentation of goel ji in most of the situations; but > also> > will appreciate him when ever he presents something valid and > effortful.> > Just the quality of a unique spine. ;=)> > Note: By the way I am not PVR, and Chandrahari too is not I know; > PVR> > is PVR and Chandrahari is Chandrahari and I am Me; It is better not > to> > compare things at times. > > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , "vijayadas_pradeep"> > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh ji> > >> > > Thank you for the comments and views.> > > PVR Narasimha Rao ji had given full freedom to express my views in> > > his forum eventhough ,i was against his understandings/views.> > >> > > Thus Shri Goel and others may be given a chance to express their> > > personal views ,which can then be countered using logic/pramana.> > >> > > This is my view and it is upto you to decide as i am not the > owner of> > > this group:-).> > >> > > Regds> > > Pradeep> > >> > >> > > , "Sreenadh"> > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Pradeep ji,> > > > Well said!> > > > ==>> > > > > Yes i agree that diplomacy is kind of hypocrisy or spineless> > > act :-).> > > > <==> > > > Yes, me too agree. > > > > ==>> > > > > However i feel Goel ji is free to express his ''personal> > > opinion''.> > > > > The problem starts when people starts trying to sell ''own> > > theories''> > > > > in the name of vedic astrology and that too with > authentication> > > > > signatures.> > > > <==> > > > True!!! Yes, the authentication signatures, which are actually> > > > nothing but mis guiding without understanding, that cause the> > > problem.> > > > ==>> > > > > But we also have a choice to logically and pramana wise > counter> > > the> > > > > personal views and understandings of such views.Then it is in > line> > > > > with the principles of Tarka.> > > > <==> > > > Yes, but it is nothing but waste of time for us - and that is > the> > > > problem we face; why should we waste that much time, if Goel ji > is> > > not> > > > ready to listen and still not seeing the point? Most of his> > > statements> > > > are throughly against the fundamentals!! Then where should be > the> > > tarka> > > > start? How much time it will take? Will Goel ji listen to the > same> > > and> > > > evolve? If all these is not going to happen - why waste too much> > > time> > > > after that? Is it not better to use that time for better > purpose?> > > > ==>> > > > > I agree that considerable damage has been done to astrology> > > because> > > > > of violating fundamental principles.This can change only and > if> > > and> > > > > only if respected members like Goel ji are willing to take a> > > relook> > > > > at basics.No one is entitled to re-define fundamentals as> > > formulated> > > > > by Mahamunis.> > > > <==> > > > True. :=)> > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >> > > > > , "vijayadas_pradeep"> > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Chandra ji> > > > >> > > > > Yes i agree that diplomacy is kind of hypocricy or spineless> > > act :-).> > > > >> > > > > However i feel Goel ji is free to express his ''personal> > > opinion''.> > > > >> > > > > The problem starts when people starts trying to sell ''own> > > theories''> > > > > in the name of vedic astrology and that too with > authentication> > > > > signatures.> > > > >> > > > > But we also have a choice to logically and pramana wise > counter> > > the> > > > > personal views and understandings of such views.Then it is in > line> > > > > with the principles of Tarka.> > > > >> > > > > I agree that considerable damage has been done to astrology> > > because> > > > > of violating fundamental principles.This can change only and > if> > > and> > > > > only if respected members like Goel ji are willing to take a> > > relook> > > > > at basics.No one is entitled to re-define fundamentals as> > > formulated> > > > > by Mahamunis.> > > > >> > > > > Pradeep> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > , "chandra_hari18"> > > > > chandra_hari18@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Pradeep,> > > > > >> > > > > > If he is free to hold his personal opinion, then people like> > > him can> > > > > > have their astrology, their sciences - all and their own> > > versions> > > > > for> > > > > > everything. Such people should not be allowed to telecast > their> > > > > mental> > > > > > malady into the Public.> > > > > >> > > > > > Such theories reflect the grooming that certain students> > > receive in> > > > > > certain places.> > > > > >> > > > > > chandra hari> > > > > > --- In> > > , "vijayadas_pradeep"> > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Namaste Goel ji> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Classics have only spoken about a planet or Lagna(rising> > > degree)> > > > > > > being in Vargottama.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > If we study the ganita part of astrology and divisions, > or the> > > > > > > paramanas one can never speak of Bhava Vargottama.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The reason is simple.Check the following instance - Take > any> > > chart> > > > > > > with Lagna in Vargottama.You will find that all > the ''bhavas''> > > > > are in> > > > > > > Vargottama in those charts.Thus one can say Lagna is> > > > > Vargottama.Rest> > > > > > > is redundant.Amshas are not for bhavas.It is sad to note > how> > > > > basics> > > > > > > are twisted.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thus there are no such Vargottamas as per my understanding> > > and as> > > > > > > mentioned by sages.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > You are free to hold your personal opionion.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > Pradeep> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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