Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Dear Neelam ji, What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting involved in multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after marriage? You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other than that what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour. It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and prevent any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage. Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the girl & the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not referring to normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of planets leading to multiple relationships. blessings Renu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear renu ji As part of occult science some knowledge shud be given in secret to best students and sisyas . i will answer ur 2nd part of question ,leaving the first part to madam neelam ji if she wish she will answer it . so my opinion on multiple realtion ship yogas in each chart will not cancell each other where as it may lead to disasters ,unless the kids r trained in good way abt values and dharma. This is the biggest problem we r facing while matchting ,and we cannot tell the reasons also ,as it will spread and it may affect the reputation of other family . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , "renunw" <renunw wrote:>> Dear Neelam ji,> > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting involved in > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after marriage? > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other than that > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour.> > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and prevent > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage. > > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the girl & > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not referring to > normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of planets > leading to multiple relationships.> > blessings> > Renu> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Dear Renu ji, The multiple affairs is visible from the following combinations - * Venus in 7th from Moon in Vargottama (indicating the number 3) * Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon. * 7th from Lagna is an Uphaya house Gemini (indicating 2) with the malefic placed in it. * 5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and multiple affairs. * Afflicted Venus with malefic on both sides of it. It is such indications towards marriage failure and multiple affairs that prompts people to match the charts before marriage, in an effort to ease out the problems that could arise and make the chart balanced. But only the combinations indicating Adridha Karma and Dridhadridha karma only gets benefited by it. But if some results are indicated by Yoga, Dasa and Transit together then it is a Dridha karma and no matching or efforts can help and the destiny acts.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "renunw" <renunw wrote:>> Dear Neelam ji,> > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting involved in > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after marriage? > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other than that > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour.> > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and prevent > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage. > > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the girl & > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not referring to > normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of planets > leading to multiple relationships.> > blessings> > Renu> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Dear sunil ji, " As part of occult science some knowledge shud be given in secret to best students and sisyas " Wish I were one of your best students:) Anyway thanks for the censored information since it answers my querie # 02. I agree...it will be an insult to the family of the native concerned. But if you do not reveal the true facts, a poor girl/boy will suffer for no wrong of her/his. blessings Renu , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > dear renu ji > > > > As part of occult science some knowledge shud be given in secret to > best students and sisyas . > > > > i will answer ur 2nd part of question ,leaving the first part to madam > neelam ji if she wish she will answer it . > > > > so my opinion on multiple realtion ship yogas in each chart will not > cancell each other where as it may lead to disasters ,unless the kids r > trained in good way abt values and dharma. > > > > This is the biggest problem we r facing while matchting ,and we cannot > tell the reasons also ,as it will spread and it may affect the > reputation of other family . > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > > > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting involved in > > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after marriage? > > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other than that > > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour. > > > > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and prevent > > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage. > > > > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the girl & > > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not referring to > > normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of planets > > leading to multiple relationships. > > > > blessings > > > > Renu > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Dear Sreenadh ji, Thanks so much for the clear picture given. Just one question....did you refer to the blind chart in particular or is the answer given by you applicalbe in general? " But if some results are indicated by Yoga,Dasa and Transit together then it is a Dridha karma and no matching or efforts can help and the destiny acts. " It is sad to see that destiny plays a more important role in the lives of modern day children. I have noticed that for them divorce is just another routine event in life.... blessings Renu , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Renu ji, > The multiple affairs is visible from the following combinations - > * Venus in 7th from Moon in Vargottama (indicating the number 3) > * Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon. > * 7th from Lagna is an Uphaya house Gemini (indicating 2) with the > malefic placed in it. > * 5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and > multiple affairs. > * Afflicted Venus with malefic on both sides of it. > > It is such indications towards marriage failure and multiple affairs > that prompts people to match the charts before marriage, in an effort to > ease out the problems that could arise and make the chart balanced. But > only the combinations indicating Adridha Karma and Dridhadridha karma > only gets benefited by it. But if some results are indicated by Yoga, > Dasa and Transit together then it is a Dridha karma and no matching or > efforts can help and the destiny acts. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > > > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting involved in > > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after marriage? > > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other than that > > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour. > > > > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and prevent > > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage. > > > > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the girl & > > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not referring to > > normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of planets > > leading to multiple relationships. > > > > blessings > > > > Renu > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Dear Renuji, In addition to what Shreenadh has said, the way i looked at it was more as a hunch than than well laid out principles: Venus is retro in 5th House, the house of romance. A retro Venus is not a straight Venus....it should act differently from " normal " ...be quirky/perverse... Venus in combination or aspected by Moon shows changeability Venus is in the house of Mars (showing passions) Venus in Navamsha is in 12th House with Mars and Moon once again showing passions/changeability....many relationships. (Venus in 12th does not bode good for marriage). But number of marriages / relationships........no idea. Shreenadh has a better idea. Regards, vinita , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Renu ji, > The multiple affairs is visible from the following combinations - > * Venus in 7th from Moon in Vargottama (indicating the number 3) > * Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon. > * 7th from Lagna is an Uphaya house Gemini (indicating 2) with the > malefic placed in it. > * 5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and > multiple affairs. > * Afflicted Venus with malefic on both sides of it. > > It is such indications towards marriage failure and multiple affairs > that prompts people to match the charts before marriage, in an effort to > ease out the problems that could arise and make the chart balanced. But > only the combinations indicating Adridha Karma and Dridhadridha karma > only gets benefited by it. But if some results are indicated by Yoga, > Dasa and Transit together then it is a Dridha karma and no matching or > efforts can help and the destiny acts. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > > > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting involved in > > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after marriage? > > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other than that > > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour. > > > > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and prevent > > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage. > > > > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the girl & > > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not referring to > > normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of planets > > leading to multiple relationships. > > > > blessings > > > > Renu > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Dear Renu ji, I was speaking in general - the combinations mentioned below applies to all charts where we would like to look for multiple relationships. But along with note these points as well. * Simply any one out of many such combinations DOES NOT help us to ensure such a result. Such " Multiple Indications " (Dwi Tri Samvada Bhava) should be present to stress the result. * The dasa experienced by the native should match with the event/experience indicated by the chart. Love and regards, Sreenadh , " renunw " <renunw wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > Thanks so much for the clear picture given. Just one question....did > you refer to the blind chart in particular or is the answer given by > you applicalbe in general? > > " But if some results are indicated by Yoga,Dasa and Transit together > then it is a Dridha karma and no matching or efforts can help and > the destiny acts. " > > It is sad to see that destiny plays a more important role in the > lives of modern day children. I have noticed that for them divorce > is just another routine event in life.... > > blessings > > Renu > > > > , " Sreenadh " > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > Dear Renu ji, > > The multiple affairs is visible from the following > combinations - > > * Venus in 7th from Moon in Vargottama (indicating the number > 3) > > * Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon. > > * 7th from Lagna is an Uphaya house Gemini (indicating 2) with > the > > malefic placed in it. > > * 5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life > and > > multiple affairs. > > * Afflicted Venus with malefic on both sides of it. > > > > It is such indications towards marriage failure and multiple > affairs > > that prompts people to match the charts before marriage, in an > effort to > > ease out the problems that could arise and make the chart > balanced. But > > only the combinations indicating Adridha Karma and Dridhadridha > karma > > only gets benefited by it. But if some results are indicated by > Yoga, > > Dasa and Transit together then it is a Dridha karma and no > matching or > > efforts can help and the destiny acts. > > Love and regards, > > Sreenadh > > > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > > > > > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting involved in > > > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after > marriage? > > > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other than > that > > > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour. > > > > > > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and > prevent > > > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage. > > > > > > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the > girl & > > > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not referring to > > > normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of planets > > > leading to multiple relationships. > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Dear Vinita ji, You got some good points and logic behind it as per blind chart. Thanks for them. " Retro Venus is not a straight Venus.' ....It would be advantageous if we can apply this to other charts and see the result. I would like if you can give more conditions applicable to multiple relationships, in general.....in addition to those given by you here. Thanks once again.. blessings Renu , " vinita kumar " <shankar_mamta wrote: > > Dear Renuji, > > In addition to what Shreenadh has said, the way i looked at it was > more as a hunch than than well laid out principles: > > Venus is retro in 5th House, the house of romance. A retro Venus is > not a straight Venus....it should act differently from " normal " ...be > quirky/perverse... > > Venus in combination or aspected by Moon shows changeability > > Venus is in the house of Mars (showing passions) > > Venus in Navamsha is in 12th House with Mars and Moon once again > showing passions/changeability....many relationships. (Venus in 12th > does not bode good for marriage). > > But number of marriages / relationships........no idea. > Shreenadh has a better idea. > > Regards, > vinita > > > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Renu ji, > > The multiple affairs is visible from the following > combinations - > > * Venus in 7th from Moon in Vargottama (indicating the number > 3) > > * Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon. > > * 7th from Lagna is an Uphaya house Gemini (indicating 2) with > the > > malefic placed in it. > > * 5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life > and > > multiple affairs. > > * Afflicted Venus with malefic on both sides of it. > > > > It is such indications towards marriage failure and multiple > affairs > > that prompts people to match the charts before marriage, in an > effort to > > ease out the problems that could arise and make the chart > balanced. But > > only the combinations indicating Adridha Karma and Dridhadridha > karma > > only gets benefited by it. But if some results are indicated by > Yoga, > > Dasa and Transit together then it is a Dridha karma and no > matching or > > efforts can help and the destiny acts. > > Love and regards, > > Sreenadh > > > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > > > > > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting involved in > > > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after > marriage? > > > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other than > that > > > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour. > > > > > > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and > prevent > > > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage. > > > > > > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the > girl & > > > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not referring to > > > normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of planets > > > leading to multiple relationships. > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Dear Sreenadh ji, Thanks once again...I got the point. blessings Renu , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Renu ji, > I was speaking in general - the combinations mentioned below applies > to all charts where we would like to look for multiple relationships. > But along with note these points as well. > * Simply any one out of many such combinations DOES NOT help us to > ensure such a result. Such " Multiple Indications " (Dwi Tri Samvada > Bhava) should be present to stress the result. > * The dasa experienced by the native should match with the > event/experience indicated by the chart. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > Thanks so much for the clear picture given. Just one question....did > > you refer to the blind chart in particular or is the answer given by > > you applicalbe in general? > > > > " But if some results are indicated by Yoga,Dasa and Transit together > > then it is a Dridha karma and no matching or efforts can help and > > the destiny acts. " > > > > It is sad to see that destiny plays a more important role in the > > lives of modern day children. I have noticed that for them divorce > > is just another routine event in life.... > > > > blessings > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Renu ji, > > > The multiple affairs is visible from the following > > combinations - > > > * Venus in 7th from Moon in Vargottama (indicating the number > > 3) > > > * Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon. > > > * 7th from Lagna is an Uphaya house Gemini (indicating 2) with > > the > > > malefic placed in it. > > > * 5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life > > and > > > multiple affairs. > > > * Afflicted Venus with malefic on both sides of it. > > > > > > It is such indications towards marriage failure and multiple > > affairs > > > that prompts people to match the charts before marriage, in an > > effort to > > > ease out the problems that could arise and make the chart > > balanced. But > > > only the combinations indicating Adridha Karma and Dridhadridha > > karma > > > only gets benefited by it. But if some results are indicated by > > Yoga, > > > Dasa and Transit together then it is a Dridha karma and no > > matching or > > > efforts can help and the destiny acts. > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > > > > > > > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting involved in > > > > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after > > marriage? > > > > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other than > > that > > > > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour. > > > > > > > > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and > > prevent > > > > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage. > > > > > > > > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the > > girl & > > > > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not referring to > > > > normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of planets > > > > leading to multiple relationships. > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Dear Sreenadh ji, "5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and multiple affairs" Why? Is it because then 5th lord will be in 3rd house from 5th house, an upachaya house for 5th house of relationships? Then does the same result occur when 7th lord from Lagna is in 5th house? Then 7th lord will be in the 11th house from it, an upachaya house for 7th house of marriage. Does this indicate more than 1 marriage? Finally, will it not be bad, if there is an exchange between 5HL and 7HL? In the above instances i assume that other factors supporting multiple affairs are present in the chart. Hope you will explain...thanks. blessings Renu , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Renu ji,> The multiple affairs is visible from the following combinations -> * Venus in 7th from Moon in Vargottama (indicating the number 3)> * Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon.> * 7th from Lagna is an Uphaya house Gemini (indicating 2) with the> malefic placed in it.> * 5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and> multiple affairs.> * Afflicted Venus with malefic on both sides of it.> > It is such indications towards marriage failure and multiple affairs> that prompts people to match the charts before marriage, in an effort to> ease out the problems that could arise and make the chart balanced. But> only the combinations indicating Adridha Karma and Dridhadridha karma> only gets benefited by it. But if some results are indicated by Yoga,> Dasa and Transit together then it is a Dridha karma and no matching or> efforts can help and the destiny acts.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "renunw" renunw@> wrote:> >> > Dear Neelam ji,> >> > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting involved in> > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after marriage?> > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other than that> > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour.> >> > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and prevent> > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage.> >> > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the girl & > > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not referring to> > normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of planets> > leading to multiple relationships.> >> > blessings> >> > Renu> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Dear Sreenadh ji Very true.Mental make up,multiple combinations,and relevant dasha makes things happen from my observations.You are better learned. Thanks Pradeep , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Renu ji, > I was speaking in general - the combinations mentioned below applies > to all charts where we would like to look for multiple relationships. > But along with note these points as well. > * Simply any one out of many such combinations DOES NOT help us to > ensure such a result. Such " Multiple Indications " (Dwi Tri Samvada > Bhava) should be present to stress the result. > * The dasa experienced by the native should match with the > event/experience indicated by the chart. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > Thanks so much for the clear picture given. Just one question....did > > you refer to the blind chart in particular or is the answer given by > > you applicalbe in general? > > > > " But if some results are indicated by Yoga,Dasa and Transit together > > then it is a Dridha karma and no matching or efforts can help and > > the destiny acts. " > > > > It is sad to see that destiny plays a more important role in the > > lives of modern day children. I have noticed that for them divorce > > is just another routine event in life.... > > > > blessings > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Renu ji, > > > The multiple affairs is visible from the following > > combinations - > > > * Venus in 7th from Moon in Vargottama (indicating the number > > 3) > > > * Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon. > > > * 7th from Lagna is an Uphaya house Gemini (indicating 2) with > > the > > > malefic placed in it. > > > * 5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life > > and > > > multiple affairs. > > > * Afflicted Venus with malefic on both sides of it. > > > > > > It is such indications towards marriage failure and multiple > > affairs > > > that prompts people to match the charts before marriage, in an > > effort to > > > ease out the problems that could arise and make the chart > > balanced. But > > > only the combinations indicating Adridha Karma and Dridhadridha > > karma > > > only gets benefited by it. But if some results are indicated by > > Yoga, > > > Dasa and Transit together then it is a Dridha karma and no > > matching or > > > efforts can help and the destiny acts. > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > > > > > > > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting involved in > > > > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after > > marriage? > > > > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other than > > that > > > > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour. > > > > > > > > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and > > prevent > > > > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage. > > > > > > > > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the > > girl & > > > > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not referring to > > > > normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of planets > > > > leading to multiple relationships. > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Dear Sreenadh ji, "Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon." What do you mean by this? 7th from Moon cannot have 'Mars-Moon' combination. Do you mean that Mars being in 7th from Moon is in Moon's star? Kidnly clarify....please. blessings Renu , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Renu ji,> The multiple affairs is visible from the following combinations -> * Venus in 7th from Moon in Vargottama (indicating the number 3)> * Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon.> * 7th from Lagna is an Uphaya house Gemini (indicating 2) with the> malefic placed in it.> * 5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and> multiple affairs.> * Afflicted Venus with malefic on both sides of it.> > It is such indications towards marriage failure and multiple affairs> that prompts people to match the charts before marriage, in an effort to> ease out the problems that could arise and make the chart balanced. But> only the combinations indicating Adridha Karma and Dridhadridha karma> only gets benefited by it. But if some results are indicated by Yoga,> Dasa and Transit together then it is a Dridha karma and no matching or> efforts can help and the destiny acts.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "renunw" renunw@> wrote:> >> > Dear Neelam ji,> >> > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting involved in> > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after marriage?> > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other than that> > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour.> >> > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and prevent> > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage.> >> > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the girl & > > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not referring to> > normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of planets> > leading to multiple relationships.> >> > blessings> >> > Renu> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Dear Pradeep ji, When are you going to let out the secret of judging her profession so accurately?! That was beautiful! We are much interested in it. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji> > Very true.Mental make up,multiple combinations,and relevant dasha > makes things happen from my observations.You are better learned.> > Thanks> Pradeep> , "Sreenadh" > sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Renu ji,> > I was speaking in general - the combinations mentioned below > applies> > to all charts where we would like to look for multiple > relationships. > > But along with note these points as well.> > * Simply any one out of many such combinations DOES NOT help us > to> > ensure such a result. Such "Multiple Indications" (Dwi Tri Samvada> > Bhava) should be present to stress the result.> > * The dasa experienced by the native should match with the> > event/experience indicated by the chart.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , "renunw" <renunw@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > >> > > Thanks so much for the clear picture given. Just one > question....did> > > you refer to the blind chart in particular or is the answer given > by> > > you applicalbe in general?> > >> > > "But if some results are indicated by Yoga,Dasa and Transit > together> > > then it is a Dridha karma and no matching or efforts can help and> > > the destiny acts."> > >> > > It is sad to see that destiny plays a more important role in the> > > lives of modern day children. I have noticed that for them divorce> > > is just another routine event in life....> > >> > > blessings> > >> > > Renu> > >> > >> > >> > > , "Sreenadh"> > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Renu ji,> > > > The multiple affairs is visible from the following> > > combinations -> > > > * Venus in 7th from Moon in Vargottama (indicating the > number> > > 3)> > > > * Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon.> > > > * 7th from Lagna is an Uphaya house Gemini (indicating 2) > with> > > the> > > > malefic placed in it.> > > > * 5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married > life> > > and> > > > multiple affairs.> > > > * Afflicted Venus with malefic on both sides of it.> > > >> > > > It is such indications towards marriage failure and multiple> > > affairs> > > > that prompts people to match the charts before marriage, in an> > > effort to> > > > ease out the problems that could arise and make the chart> > > balanced. But> > > > only the combinations indicating Adridha Karma and Dridhadridha> > > karma> > > > only gets benefited by it. But if some results are indicated by> > > Yoga,> > > > Dasa and Transit together then it is a Dridha karma and no> > > matching or> > > > efforts can help and the destiny acts.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >> > > > , "renunw" > <renunw@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > > > >> > > > > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting > involved in> > > > > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after> > > marriage?> > > > > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other > than> > > that> > > > > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour.> > > > >> > > > > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and> > > prevent> > > > > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage.> > > > >> > > > > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the> > > girl & > > > > > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not > referring to> > > > > normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of > planets> > > > > leading to multiple relationships.> > > > >> > > > > blessings> > > > >> > > > > Renu> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Dear Sreenadh, Pradeep did a wonderful job. He analyzed the Mars_Venus amsa in 5th also correctly and predicted multiple affairs and in respect of kid too he added " if any " . , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > > Dear Pradeep ji, > When are you going to let out the secret of judging her profession so > accurately?! [] That was beautiful! We are much interested in it. > [] > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji > > > > Very true.Mental make up,multiple combinations,and relevant dasha > > makes things happen from my observations.You are better learned. > > > > Thanks > > Pradeep > > , " Sreenadh " > > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Renu ji, > > > I was speaking in general - the combinations mentioned below > > applies > > > to all charts where we would like to look for multiple > > relationships. > > > But along with note these points as well. > > > * Simply any one out of many such combinations DOES NOT help us > > to > > > ensure such a result. Such " Multiple Indications " (Dwi Tri Samvada > > > Bhava) should be present to stress the result. > > > * The dasa experienced by the native should match with the > > > event/experience indicated by the chart. > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks so much for the clear picture given. Just one > > question....did > > > > you refer to the blind chart in particular or is the answer given > > by > > > > you applicalbe in general? > > > > > > > > " But if some results are indicated by Yoga,Dasa and Transit > > together > > > > then it is a Dridha karma and no matching or efforts can help and > > > > the destiny acts. " > > > > > > > > It is sad to see that destiny plays a more important role in the > > > > lives of modern day children. I have noticed that for them divorce > > > > is just another routine event in life.... > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > > > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Renu ji, > > > > > The multiple affairs is visible from the following > > > > combinations - > > > > > * Venus in 7th from Moon in Vargottama (indicating the > > number > > > > 3) > > > > > * Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon. > > > > > * 7th from Lagna is an Uphaya house Gemini (indicating 2) > > with > > > > the > > > > > malefic placed in it. > > > > > * 5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married > > life > > > > and > > > > > multiple affairs. > > > > > * Afflicted Venus with malefic on both sides of it. > > > > > > > > > > It is such indications towards marriage failure and multiple > > > > affairs > > > > > that prompts people to match the charts before marriage, in an > > > > effort to > > > > > ease out the problems that could arise and make the chart > > > > balanced. But > > > > > only the combinations indicating Adridha Karma and Dridhadridha > > > > karma > > > > > only gets benefited by it. But if some results are indicated by > > > > Yoga, > > > > > Dasa and Transit together then it is a Dridha karma and no > > > > matching or > > > > > efforts can help and the destiny acts. > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > , " renunw " > > <renunw@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting > > involved in > > > > > > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after > > > > marriage? > > > > > > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other > > than > > > > that > > > > > > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour. > > > > > > > > > > > > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and > > > > prevent > > > > > > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the > > > > girl & > > > > > > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not > > referring to > > > > > > normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of > > planets > > > > > > leading to multiple relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Dear Renu ji, Don't ask for the exact logic that causes the result - "5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and multiple affairs" - because I don't know. But there is one reason, I can provide - i.e. a quote from Phaladeepika. Phaladeepika tells us that - "Darese sutage prenashta vanita putra adhavadheeswaro dyune va nidhaneswaropi kurute patnee vinasam dhruvam" - Meaning, If 7th lord is in 5th he will lose his wife, if 5th lord is in 7th then too the same result can be predicted. If 8th lord is in 7th then too the lose of wife can be predicted soon"; and it is this quote that forms the base of the info I provided. By the way, if you want logic, here is some - * 11th house from any house indicates something incremental to that house; 11th house indicates second wife. 11th from 7th indicates second wife in the case of "Bhaval Bhava Chita" related to 7th house. 7th is love and affection and 5th (11th from 7th) is mind - thus it could indicate a (extra marital?) love afair. * 5th lord going to 3rd house from it also indicate multiple love affairs (which can cause lose of wife and normal married life) due to the 5th and 7th connection - I believe. If you are not satisfied with these logics, then find something yourself. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "renunw" <renunw wrote:>> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > "5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and> multiple affairs"> > Why? Is it because then 5th lord will be in 3rd house from 5th house,> an upachaya house for 5th house of relationships?> > Then does the same result occur when 7th lord from Lagna is in 5th> house? Then 7th lord will be in the 11th house from it, an upachaya> house for 7th house of marriage. Does this indicate more than 1> marriage?> > Finally, will it not be bad, if there is an exchange between 5HL and> 7HL?> > In the above instances i assume that other factors supporting multiple> affairs are present in the chart.> > Hope you will explain...thanks.> > blessings> > Renu> > > , "Sreenadh"> sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Renu ji,> > The multiple affairs is visible from the following combinations -> > * Venus in 7th from Moon in Vargottama (indicating the number 3)> > * Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon.> > * 7th from Lagna is an Uphaya house Gemini (indicating 2) with the> > malefic placed in it.> > * 5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and> > multiple affairs.> > * Afflicted Venus with malefic on both sides of it.> >> > It is such indications towards marriage failure and multiple affairs> > that prompts people to match the charts before marriage, in an effort> to> > ease out the problems that could arise and make the chart balanced.> But> > only the combinations indicating Adridha Karma and Dridhadridha karma> > only gets benefited by it. But if some results are indicated by Yoga,> > Dasa and Transit together then it is a Dridha karma and no matching or> > efforts can help and the destiny acts.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> > , "renunw" renunw@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Neelam ji,> > >> > > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting involved in> > > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after marriage?> > > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other than that> > > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour.> > >> > > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and prevent> > > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage.> > >> > > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the girl & > > > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not referring to> > > normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of planets> > > leading to multiple relationships.> > >> > > blessings> > >> > > Renu> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Dear Renu ji, It should be - Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon Natal Moon in Navamsa". i.e. In natal chart Moon is in Libra; and the Navamsa of Moon and Mars falls in Aries - i.e. 7th from Natal Moon.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "renunw" <renunw wrote:>> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > "Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon."> > What do you mean by this? 7th from Moon cannot have 'Mars-Moon'> combination. Do you mean that Mars being in 7th from Moon is in Moon's> star?> > Kidnly clarify....please.> > blessings> > Renu> > > > , "Sreenadh"> sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Renu ji,> > The multiple affairs is visible from the following combinations -> > * Venus in 7th from Moon in Vargottama (indicating the number 3)> > * Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon.> > * 7th from Lagna is an Uphaya house Gemini (indicating 2) with the> > malefic placed in it.> > * 5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and> > multiple affairs.> > * Afflicted Venus with malefic on both sides of it.> >> > It is such indications towards marriage failure and multiple affairs> > that prompts people to match the charts before marriage, in an effort> to> > ease out the problems that could arise and make the chart balanced.> But> > only the combinations indicating Adridha Karma and Dridhadridha karma> > only gets benefited by it. But if some results are indicated by Yoga,> > Dasa and Transit together then it is a Dridha karma and no matching or> > efforts can help and the destiny acts.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> > , "renunw" renunw@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Neelam ji,> > >> > > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting involved in> > > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after marriage?> > > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other than that> > > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour.> > >> > > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and prevent> > > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage.> > >> > > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the girl & > > > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not referring to> > > normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of planets> > > leading to multiple relationships.> > >> > > blessings> > >> > > Renu> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Dear Chandrahari ji, True!!! It was really wonderful!Love and regards,Sreeandh--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Dear All, The combination of the 5th & 7th is wellknown. However that may be indicative of marriages which happen after a relationship. 11th house also 7th from 5th house. It is said that aspect of planet from the 11th house also influences/grows/dstroys marraige. There is another way to know a persons realationships - 4th house according to an astrologer. Would like the all to throw some light on it. Thanks & Regards. Chiranjiv Mehta.--- On Mon, 12/5/08, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Sreenadh <sreesog Re: Multiple Relationships Date: Monday, 12 May, 2008, 1:56 PM Dear Renu ji, Don't ask for the exact logic that causes the result - "5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and multiple affairs" - because I don't know. But there is one reason, I can provide - i.e. a quote from Phaladeepika. Phaladeepika tells us that - "Darese sutage prenashta vanita putra adhavadheeswaro dyune va nidhaneswaropi kurute patnee vinasam dhruvam" - Meaning, If 7th lord is in 5th he will lose his wife, if 5th lord is in 7th then too the same result can be predicted. If 8th lord is in 7th then too the lose of wife can be predicted soon"; and it is this quote that forms the base of the info I provided.. By the way, if you want logic, here is some - * 11th house from any house indicates something incremental to that house; 11th house indicates second wife. 11th from 7th indicates second wife in the case of "Bhaval Bhava Chita" related to 7th house. 7th is love and affection and 5th (11th from 7th) is mind - thus it could indicate a (extra marital?) love afair. * 5th lord going to 3rd house from it also indicate multiple love affairs (which can cause lose of wife and normal married life) due to the 5th and 7th connection - I believe. If you are not satisfied with these logics, then find something yourself. Love and regards,Sreenadh ancient_indian_ astrology, "renunw" <renunw wrote:>> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > "5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and> multiple affairs"> > Why? Is it because then 5th lord will be in 3rd house from 5th house,> an upachaya house for 5th house of relationships?> > Then does the same result occur when 7th lord from Lagna is in 5th> house? Then 7th lord will be in the 11th house from it, an upachaya> house for 7th house of marriage. Does this indicate more than 1> marriage?> > Finally, will it not be bad, if there is an exchange between 5HL and> 7HL?> > In the above instances i assume that other factors supporting multiple> affairs are present in the chart.> > Hope you will explain...thanks.> > blessings> > Renu> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sreenadh"> sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Renu ji,> > The multiple affairs is visible from the following combinations -> > * Venus in 7th from Moon in Vargottama (indicating the number 3)> > * Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon.> > * 7th from Lagna is an Uphaya house Gemini (indicating 2) with the> > malefic placed in it.> > * 5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and> > multiple affairs.> > * Afflicted Venus with malefic on both sides of it.> >> > It is such indications towards marriage failure and multiple affairs> > that prompts people to match the charts before marriage, in an effort> to> > ease out the problems that could arise and make the chart balanced.> But> > only the combinations indicating Adridha Karma and Dridhadridha karma> > only gets benefited by it. But if some results are indicated by Yoga,> > Dasa and Transit together then it is a Dridha karma and no matching or> > efforts can help and the destiny acts.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "renunw" renunw@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Neelam ji,> > >> > > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting involved in> > > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after marriage?> > > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other than that> > > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour.> > >> > > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and prevent> > > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage.> > >> > > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the girl & > > > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not referring to> > > normal afflicitons to a marriage....but about placement of planets> > > leading to multiple relationships.> > >> > > blessings> > >> > > Renu> > >> >> Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Dear Sreenadh ji, First of all thanks so much. "If you are not satisfied with these logics, then find something yourself. " I am trying to grasp your logic....failing that, I will surely look for some logic myself. Just to mention that I know a wife who is very devoted to her husband with no extra marital relationships, whose chart shows an exchange between 5HL & 7HL. Besides her Mars and Venus are in 7H. Her life is her husband....and of course children too:) blessings Renu , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Renu ji,> Don't ask for the exact logic that causes the result - "5th lord from> Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and multiple affairs" > [] - because I don't know. [] But there is one reason, I can> provide - i.e. a quote from Phaladeepika. Phaladeepika tells us that -> "Darese sutage prenashta vanita putra adhavadheeswaro dyune va> nidhaneswaropi kurute patnee vinasam dhruvam" - Meaning, If 7th lord is> in 5th he will lose his wife, if 5th lord is in 7th then too the same> result can be predicted. If 8th lord is in 7th then too the lose of wife> can be predicted soon"; and it is this quote that forms the base of the> info I provided.> By the way, if you want logic, here is some -> * 11th house from any house indicates something incremental to that> house; 11th house indicates second wife. 11th from 7th indicates second> wife in the case of "Bhaval Bhava Chita" related to 7th house. 7th is> love and affection and 5th (11th from 7th) is mind - thus it could> indicate a (extra marital?) love afair.> * 5th lord going to 3rd house from it also indicate multiple love> affairs (which can cause lose of wife and normal married life) due to> the 5th and 7th connection - I believe.> If you are not satisfied with these logics, then find something> yourself. [>]> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "renunw" renunw@> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> >> > "5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and> > multiple affairs"> >> > Why? Is it because then 5th lord will be in 3rd house from 5th house,> > an upachaya house for 5th house of relationships?> >> > Then does the same result occur when 7th lord from Lagna is in 5th> > house? Then 7th lord will be in the 11th house from it, an upachaya> > house for 7th house of marriage. Does this indicate more than 1> > marriage?> >> > Finally, will it not be bad, if there is an exchange between 5HL and> > 7HL?> >> > In the above instances i assume that other factors supporting multiple> > affairs are present in the chart.> >> > Hope you will explain...thanks.> >> > blessings> >> > Renu> >> >> > , "Sreenadh"> > sreesog@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Renu ji,> > > The multiple affairs is visible from the following combinations -> > > * Venus in 7th from Moon in Vargottama (indicating the number 3)> > > * Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon.> > > * 7th from Lagna is an Uphaya house Gemini (indicating 2) with the> > > malefic placed in it.> > > * 5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and> > > multiple affairs.> > > * Afflicted Venus with malefic on both sides of it.> > >> > > It is such indications towards marriage failure and multiple affairs> > > that prompts people to match the charts before marriage, in an> effort> > to> > > ease out the problems that could arise and make the chart balanced.> > But> > > only the combinations indicating Adridha Karma and Dridhadridha> karma> > > only gets benefited by it. But if some results are indicated by> Yoga,> > > Dasa and Transit together then it is a Dridha karma and no matching> or> > > efforts can help and the destiny acts.> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > , "renunw" renunw@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > > >> > > > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting involved in> > > > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after> marriage?> > > > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other than> that> > > > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour.> > > >> > > > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and> prevent> > > > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage.> > > >> > > > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the girl> & > > > > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not referring to> > > > normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of planets> > > > leading to multiple relationships.> > > >> > > > blessings> > > >> > > > Renu> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Dear Renu ji,==>> I know a wife who is very> devoted to her husband with no extra marital relationships, whose chart> shows an exchange between 5HL & 7HL. Besides her Mars and Venus are in> 7H. Her life is her husband....and of course children too:)<== True! That is why I selected my wife as her chart too has an exchange between 5th and 7th lords - Not to mention that it was a love marriage. (But she does not have Mars or Venus in 7th; but instead an exalted Saturn) You are absolutely true to the point. An exchange between 5th and 7th lord gives entirely different results from a mere placement of 5th lord in 7th or 7th lord in 5th; a point to note. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "renunw" <renunw wrote:>> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > First of all thanks so much.> > "If you are not satisfied with these logics, then find something> yourself. [>] "> > I am trying to grasp your logic....failing that, I will surely look for> some logic myself. Just to mention that I know a wife who is very> devoted to her husband with no extra marital relationships, whose chart> shows an exchange between 5HL & 7HL. Besides her Mars and Venus are in> 7H. Her life is her husband....and of course children too:)> > blessings> > Renu> > > > > , "Sreenadh"> sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Renu ji,> > Don't ask for the exact logic that causes the result - "5th lord from> > Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and multiple affairs"> > [] - because I don't know. [] But there is one reason, I can> > provide - i.e. a quote from Phaladeepika. Phaladeepika tells us that -> > "Darese sutage prenashta vanita putra adhavadheeswaro dyune va> > nidhaneswaropi kurute patnee vinasam dhruvam" - Meaning, If 7th lord> is> > in 5th he will lose his wife, if 5th lord is in 7th then too the same> > result can be predicted. If 8th lord is in 7th then too the lose of> wife> > can be predicted soon"; and it is this quote that forms the base of> the> > info I provided.> > By the way, if you want logic, here is some -> > * 11th house from any house indicates something incremental to that> > house; 11th house indicates second wife. 11th from 7th indicates> second> > wife in the case of "Bhaval Bhava Chita" related to 7th house. 7th is> > love and affection and 5th (11th from 7th) is mind - thus it could> > indicate a (extra marital?) love afair.> > * 5th lord going to 3rd house from it also indicate multiple love> > affairs (which can cause lose of wife and normal married life) due to> > the 5th and 7th connection - I believe.> > If you are not satisfied with these logics, then find something> > yourself. [>]> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> > , "renunw" renunw@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > >> > > "5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and> > > multiple affairs"> > >> > > Why? Is it because then 5th lord will be in 3rd house from 5th> house,> > > an upachaya house for 5th house of relationships?> > >> > > Then does the same result occur when 7th lord from Lagna is in 5th> > > house? Then 7th lord will be in the 11th house from it, an upachaya> > > house for 7th house of marriage. Does this indicate more than 1> > > marriage?> > >> > > Finally, will it not be bad, if there is an exchange between 5HL and> > > 7HL?> > >> > > In the above instances i assume that other factors supporting> multiple> > > affairs are present in the chart.> > >> > > Hope you will explain...thanks.> > >> > > blessings> > >> > > Renu> > >> > >> > > , "Sreenadh"> > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Renu ji,> > > > The multiple affairs is visible from the following combinations -> > > > * Venus in 7th from Moon in Vargottama (indicating the number 3)> > > > * Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon.> > > > * 7th from Lagna is an Uphaya house Gemini (indicating 2) with the> > > > malefic placed in it.> > > > * 5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and> > > > multiple affairs.> > > > * Afflicted Venus with malefic on both sides of it.> > > >> > > > It is such indications towards marriage failure and multiple> affairs> > > > that prompts people to match the charts before marriage, in an> > effort> > > to> > > > ease out the problems that could arise and make the chart> balanced.> > > But> > > > only the combinations indicating Adridha Karma and Dridhadridha> > karma> > > > only gets benefited by it. But if some results are indicated by> > Yoga,> > > > Dasa and Transit together then it is a Dridha karma and no> matching> > or> > > > efforts can help and the destiny acts.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >> > > > , "renunw" renunw@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > > > >> > > > > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting involved> in> > > > > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after> > marriage?> > > > > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other than> > that> > > > > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour.> > > > >> > > > > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and> > prevent> > > > > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage.> > > > >> > > > > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the> girl> > & > > > > > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not referring> to> > > > > normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of> planets> > > > > leading to multiple relationships.> > > > >> > > > > blessings> > > > >> > > > > Renu> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Dear Renuji,Besides the points Sreenadhji gave, and those substantiated by the classics, I'd like to add that 5L and 7L are always inimical. Also in natural zodiac 5L sun debilitates in 7H. Therefore, there is an inherent weakness related to these 2 lordships. But any yoga to fructify, it must repeat at least thrice. Then any benefic aspect or association, if there, protects the native from ill-effects of the yoga. A lot will depend on the strength of lagna, LL, signs concerned (in 5H and 7H), moon and moon sign and above all karak jupiter in a woman's chart and venus in a man's chart. You will need to assess everything before drawing any inference. RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Dear Renu ji,Exchange of 5L and 7L in 7H or any other kendra or kona is a high order rajyoga. Which will lift the chart manyfolds in any case.RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Dear Sreenadh ji, "True! That is why I selected my wife as her chart too has an exchange between 5th and 7th lords - Not to mention that it was a love marriage. (But she does not have Mars or Venus in 7th; but instead an exalted Saturn) You are absolutely true to the point. An exchange between 5th and 7th lord gives entirely different results from a mere placement of 5th lord in 7th or 7th lord in 5th; a point to note. " Mark my word....you are indeed lucky Well, my friend's husband has Saturn exalted in 7H ....and he is as virtuous as his wife:) You can be still more happier:)))) blessings, Renu , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> > Dear Renu ji,> ==>> > I know a wife who is very> > devoted to her husband with no extra marital relationships, whose> chart> > shows an exchange between 5HL & 7HL. Besides her Mars and Venus are in> > 7H. Her life is her husband....and of course children too:)> <==> True! That is why I selected my wife as her chart too has an exchange> between 5th and 7th lords - Not to mention that it was a love marriage. > [] (But she does not have Mars or Venus in 7th; but instead an> exalted Saturn) You are absolutely true to the point. An exchange> between 5th and 7th lord gives entirely different results from a mere> placement of 5th lord in 7th or 7th lord in 5th; a point to note. []> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "renunw" renunw@> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> >> > First of all thanks so much.> >> > "If you are not satisfied with these logics, then find something> > yourself. [>] "> >> > I am trying to grasp your logic....failing that, I will surely look> for> > some logic myself. Just to mention that I know a wife who is very> > devoted to her husband with no extra marital relationships, whose> chart> > shows an exchange between 5HL & 7HL. Besides her Mars and Venus are in> > 7H. Her life is her husband....and of course children too:)> >> > blessings> >> > Renu> >> >> >> >> > , "Sreenadh"> > sreesog@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Renu ji,> > > Don't ask for the exact logic that causes the result - "5th lord> from> > > Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and multiple affairs"> > > [] - because I don't know. [] But there is one reason, I can> > > provide - i.e. a quote from Phaladeepika. Phaladeepika tells us that> -> > > "Darese sutage prenashta vanita putra adhavadheeswaro dyune va> > > nidhaneswaropi kurute patnee vinasam dhruvam" - Meaning, If 7th lord> > is> > > in 5th he will lose his wife, if 5th lord is in 7th then too the> same> > > result can be predicted. If 8th lord is in 7th then too the lose of> > wife> > > can be predicted soon"; and it is this quote that forms the base of> > the> > > info I provided.> > > By the way, if you want logic, here is some -> > > * 11th house from any house indicates something incremental to that> > > house; 11th house indicates second wife. 11th from 7th indicates> > second> > > wife in the case of "Bhaval Bhava Chita" related to 7th house. 7th> is> > > love and affection and 5th (11th from 7th) is mind - thus it could> > > indicate a (extra marital?) love afair.> > > * 5th lord going to 3rd house from it also indicate multiple love> > > affairs (which can cause lose of wife and normal married life) due> to> > > the 5th and 7th connection - I believe.> > > If you are not satisfied with these logics, then find something> > > yourself. [>]> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > , "renunw" renunw@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > > >> > > > "5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and> > > > multiple affairs"> > > >> > > > Why? Is it because then 5th lord will be in 3rd house from 5th> > house,> > > > an upachaya house for 5th house of relationships?> > > >> > > > Then does the same result occur when 7th lord from Lagna is in 5th> > > > house? Then 7th lord will be in the 11th house from it, an> upachaya> > > > house for 7th house of marriage. Does this indicate more than 1> > > > marriage?> > > >> > > > Finally, will it not be bad, if there is an exchange between 5HL> and> > > > 7HL?> > > >> > > > In the above instances i assume that other factors supporting> > multiple> > > > affairs are present in the chart.> > > >> > > > Hope you will explain...thanks.> > > >> > > > blessings> > > >> > > > Renu> > > >> > > >> > > > , "Sreenadh"> > > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Renu ji,> > > > > The multiple affairs is visible from the following combinations> -> > > > > * Venus in 7th from Moon in Vargottama (indicating the number 3)> > > > > * Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon.> > > > > * 7th from Lagna is an Uphaya house Gemini (indicating 2) with> the> > > > > malefic placed in it.> > > > > * 5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life> and> > > > > multiple affairs.> > > > > * Afflicted Venus with malefic on both sides of it.> > > > >> > > > > It is such indications towards marriage failure and multiple> > affairs> > > > > that prompts people to match the charts before marriage, in an> > > effort> > > > to> > > > > ease out the problems that could arise and make the chart> > balanced.> > > > But> > > > > only the combinations indicating Adridha Karma and Dridhadridha> > > karma> > > > > only gets benefited by it. But if some results are indicated by> > > Yoga,> > > > > Dasa and Transit together then it is a Dridha karma and no> > matching> > > or> > > > > efforts can help and the destiny acts.> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > Sreenadh> > > > >> > > > > , "renunw"> renunw@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting involved> > in> > > > > > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after> > > marriage?> > > > > > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other> than> > > that> > > > > > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour.> > > > > >> > > > > > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and> > > prevent> > > > > > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage.> > > > > >> > > > > > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the> > girl> > > & > > > > > > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not referring> > to> > > > > > normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of> > planets> > > > > > leading to multiple relationships.> > > > > >> > > > > > blessings> > > > > >> > > > > > Renu> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Dearest Renuji,.... your simplicity and zeal/persistence in discovering golden rule for extra marital affairs is amazing but also very endearing. There is a difference between tendency and destiny. Mars and Venus together in any house make a person extremely passionate and over-sexed (by normal standards of that place, their gender, that yug). If properly matched with similar chart, it leads to needs being satisfied within marriage. I think someone mentioned about Tagore in discussion few days back that he had yielding wife which led to kid after kid. Else it can mean anything. In a woman's chart, it may mean a frustrated housewife who is “devoted†to husband carrying her frustration in mind or in man's chart, may mean a husband who goes out for extra and constant need satisfaction to call girls, extra marital affairs, second marriage, etc………. Mars and Venus together does not necessarily mean many affairs – not everyone will get opportunity for two sided affairs that too multiple – that depends on dasha, looks, culture, strength of mind… finally destiny. This combination in some big Hero/actor (example) will give him ample opportunity to have affairs. But if as an e.g. Lower Income clerk has Mars and Venus together, I doubt he may have time, energy, resources to maintain a wife, 3 kids and a girlfriend/outside affair. Last but not the least, do not go by horoscope of some lady – if she have extra marital affair, is she going to come tell you? Not even if she is your sister! What is her age? Maybe she has one later in life owing to some unforeseen circumstances. Or if the corresponding dasha which will frutify this comes when she is ninety, then pretty much it means that it will not happen. Mars and Venus together does not mean you are in constant state of “affair after affair†all your life. May mean just one short interest outside marriage which may lead to breakage (maybe that man with whom affair happens is weak, married, met on business tour so temporary affair before both return to reality, etc). Or may be she had one – people do patch up after affairs or like for many men, they have outside affair but spouse is last to know or in fact never knows as they are able to love multiple women so wife also happy at home (more cared for due to their guilty feeling)…… You have also said in some earlier email about young people being governed more by destiny now-a-days –> young, old, today or yesterday’s generation – NO ONE can escape destiny. A person with afflicted 7th house may lead unhappy, incompatible married life (little communication between couples, live in their own separate shell of life, etc – no meeting of mind – just existing like two parallel lines in one home) in yesterday’s generation – no option for woman due to economic dependency – no option for man – parental pressure and lack of option outside of marriage – so mainly compulsion and no better option – but for people outside (like you), they will be epitome of togetherness and old-time values dedicated to institution of marriage - celebrating 30th… 40th… 50th wedding anniversary…………… raah raah. Same chart today’s generation MAY mean divorce as people are given less to hypocrisy or “what will people sayâ€, economic independence for women etc. – outsiders will go baah BUT destiny is the same and played itself out in BOTH cases!!!! J --- On Mon, 5/12/08, renunw <renunw wrote: renunw <renunw Re: Multiple Relationships Date: Monday, May 12, 2008, 4:35 PM Dear Sreenadh ji, First of all thanks so much. "If you are not satisfied with these logics, then find something yourself. " I am trying to grasp your logic....failing that, I will surely look for some logic myself. Just to mention that I know a wife who is very devoted to her husband with no extra marital relationships, whose chart shows an exchange between 5HL & 7HL. Besides her Mars and Venus are in 7H. Her life is her husband....and of course children too:) blessings Renu ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Renu ji,> Don't ask for the exact logic that causes the result - "5th lord from> Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and multiple affairs" > [] - because I don't know. [] But there is one reason, I can> provide - i.e. a quote from Phaladeepika. Phaladeepika tells us that -> "Darese sutage prenashta vanita putra adhavadheeswaro dyune va> nidhaneswaropi kurute patnee vinasam dhruvam" - Meaning, If 7th lord is> in 5th he will lose his wife, if 5th lord is in 7th then too the same> result can be predicted. If 8th lord is in 7th then too the lose of wife> can be predicted soon"; and it is this quote that forms the base of the> info I provided.> By the way, if you want logic, here is some -> * 11th house from any house indicates something incremental to that> house; 11th house indicates second wife. 11th from 7th indicates second> wife in the case of "Bhaval Bhava Chita" related to 7th house. 7th is> love and affection and 5th (11th from 7th) is mind - thus it could> indicate a (extra marital?) love afair.> * 5th lord going to 3rd house from it also indicate multiple love> affairs (which can cause lose of wife and normal married life) due to> the 5th and 7th connection - I believe.> If you are not satisfied with these logics, then find something> yourself.. [>]> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "renunw" renunw@> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> >> > "5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and> > multiple affairs"> >> > Why? Is it because then 5th lord will be in 3rd house from 5th house,> > an upachaya house for 5th house of relationships?> >> > Then does the same result occur when 7th lord from Lagna is in 5th> > house? Then 7th lord will be in the 11th house from it, an upachaya> > house for 7th house of marriage. Does this indicate more than 1> > marriage?> >> > Finally, will it not be bad, if there is an exchange between 5HL and> > 7HL?> >> > In the above instances i assume that other factors supporting multiple> > affairs are present in the chart.> >> > Hope you will explain...thanks.> >> > blessings> >> > Renu> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sreenadh"> > sreesog@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Renu ji,> > > The multiple affairs is visible from the following combinations -> > > * Venus in 7th from Moon in Vargottama (indicating the number 3)> > > * Mars Moon combination in 7th from Moon.> > > * 7th from Lagna is an Uphaya house Gemini (indicating 2) with the> > > malefic placed in it.> > > * 5th lord from Lagna in 7th indicate trouble in married life and> > > multiple affairs.> > > * Afflicted Venus with malefic on both sides of it.> > >> > > It is such indications towards marriage failure and multiple affairs> > > that prompts people to match the charts before marriage, in an> effort> > to> > > ease out the problems that could arise and make the chart balanced.> > But> > > only the combinations indicating Adridha Karma and Dridhadridha> karma> > > only gets benefited by it. But if some results are indicated by> Yoga,> > > Dasa and Transit together then it is a Dridha karma and no matching> or> > > efforts can help and the destiny acts.> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "renunw" renunw@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > > >> > > > What conditions are prevalent in a chart, for getting involved in> > > > multiple relationships with the opposite sex, before/after> marriage?> > > > You have given a few in the blind chart elaboration. Other than> that> > > > what else one would find to fulfil such behaviour.> > > >> > > > It will come in handy to warn prospective brides/grooms and> prevent> > > > any mishap, before committing into a horrible marriage.> > > >> > > > Also if such conditions are present in both the charts of the girl> & > > > > the boy, would such afflictions cancel off? I am not referring to> > > > normal afflicitons to a marriage...but about placement of planets> > > > leading to multiple relationships.> > > >> > > > blessings> > > >> > > > Renu> > > >> > >> >> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Dear Neelamji and others, Let me introduce myself first. I am a member of this group, may be over a year but have never posted in this group. This is an august group. I am impressed by all the expert astrologers. I am a learner, maybe middle level but more towards research orientation, I have been associated with the stars for long, I am selftaught but recently I found a great Guru- yes I am also the student of Shri. Sunil Nairji. I could not attempt the blind chart this time for other reasons. well, the reason for my this message is in B.V.raman's book, he has mentioned as 7th lord in 5th, if well placed is auspicious, likewise for 5th lord in 7th. I have charts with this combination, one is 7th lord jupiter (mithuna lagna) in tula with venus, the lord- no affairs even when the dasa was favorable, 100% arranged marriage, the twist is the couple knew eachother since childhood but never thought of marriage themselves. The other couple- both of them have 7th lord in 5th, male has mercury in aries, female has mars in aquarius. 100% arranged marriage, good relations between them, as far as I know very good people. Then, if in natural zodiac 5th and 7th are inimical by way of sun debilitated in tula, then 9th lord in 10th should also be inimical, by way of jupiter debilitated in capricorn in the natural zodiac. But it is not so. Shouldn't kendra- kona association be auspicious? I am currently working on this topic, hence my interest. You indeed are doing a wonderful job Regards, Mrs. bhagavathi , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Renuji, > > Besides the points Sreenadhji gave, and those substantiated by the classics, > I'd like to add that 5L and 7L are always inimical. Also in natural zodiac > 5L sun debilitates in 7H. Therefore, there is an inherent weakness related > to these 2 lordships. But any yoga to fructify, it must repeat at least > thrice. Then any benefic aspect or association, if there, protects the > native from ill-effects of the yoga. A lot will depend on the strength of > lagna, LL, signs concerned (in 5H and 7H), moon and moon sign and above all > karak jupiter in a woman's chart and venus in a man's chart. You will need > to assess everything before drawing any inference. > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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