Venus & Saturn yuti in Lagna - how to read / interpret first house ?

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hare ramakrishna

dear Amit ji

 

u r welcome to the grp . I like the way u try to analyse ur chart , but i hav a doubt ,what is this MKS??

In ur chart sani is in parivarthana with moon ,

 

also i lov to hear abt ur present dasa ie jup dasa ,how is it working in marital and professional frnt also if possible u can giv a breif discussion abt other areas of life like ur brothers ,parents while u r jup dasa was progressing as in its own sub .if u dont mind giv a breifing for grps learning experience .

 

also always try to giv us or any one the avilable birth time ( means un rectified birth time ) unless u 100% feel its wrong ,other wise i find each system follows its own methods in rectification of birth time and other astrologers may go wrong in their reading s .

 

so giv birth time as it is recorded by parents or hospitals .

 

also u can get a good learning exprnce here also esp u r in safe hands ( with shivani ji to guide u )

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

 

 

, "Amit Rajaishwar" <rajshwar wrote:>> Dear Sheevaniji & All,> > Firstly, my thanks to Sheevaniji for guiding me to this website / forum. > > Secondly my respect and namaskar to everyone here. > > Friends call me Amit and I am from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia and I am a> beginner trying to learn astrology with everyone's guidance and would> appreciate any feedback and guidance here.> > Sheevaniji, although I have sent the same to you (in much more detail> -with my comments and findings), I am posting it here to seek guidance> and look at the many ways / views on interpreting a chart.> > Dear All,> > I have Jhora software and I am using it for my horoscope reading and> learning activities.> > My details are as following (Shevaaniji has helped correct the birth> time) : > > Name : Amit Rajaishwar> Date : July 13, 1976> Time : 7:55:00> Time Zone : 7:30:00 (East of GMT) - Corrected> Place : 101 E 42' 00", 3 N 10' 00" (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia)> Altitude : 0.00 meters> > Lunar Yr-Mo : Nala - Ashadha> Tithi : Krishna Dwitiya (Mo) (46.94% left) > Vedic Weekday : Tuesday (Ma)> Nakshatra : Sravanam (Mo) (58.10% left)> Yoga : Vishkambha (Sa) (3.96% left)> Karana : Garija (Ju) (93.89% left) > Hora Lord : Mars (5 min sign: Li)> Mahakala Hora : Mars (5 min sign: Li)> Kaala Lord : Mars (Mahakala: Jupiter)> > Sunrise : 6:43:46> Sunset : 18:53:57> Janma Ghatis : 2.9683> > Ayanamsa : 23-31-45.35> Sidereal Time : 2:35:53> > 02. DEFINITION OF GRAHA POSITIONS (taken from JHora):> Body/Longitude/Nakshatra/Pada/Rasi/Navamsa/Element and Quality> Lagna: 14 Cn 04' 57.71"/Push/4/Cn/Sc/movable + water = Cancer> Sun – AK: 27 Ge 13' 10.29"/Puna/3/Ge/Ge/fire in dual + air = Gemini> Moon – BK: 15 Cp 35' 10.56"/Srav/2/Cp/Ta/water in movable + earth => Capricorn> Mars – PK : 10 Le 09' 00.04"/Magh/4/Le/Cn/fire in fix + fire = Leo > Mercury – AmK: 24 Ge 09' 10.61"/Puna/2/Ge/Ta/earth in dual + air = Gemini> Jupiter – DK: 0 Ta 49' 25.34"/Krit/2/Ta/Cp/ether in fix + earth = Taurus> Venus – GK: 4 Cn 05' 38.21"/Push/1/Cn/Le/water in movable + water => Cancer > Saturn – PiK: 10 Cn 54' 55.43"/Push/3/Cn/Li/air in movable + water => Cancer> Rahu - MK: 15 Li 28' 27.03"/Swat/3/Li/Aq/air in movable + air = Libra> Ketu : 15 Ar 28' 27.03"/Bhar/1/Ar/Le/fire in movable + fire = Aries> Uranus : 9 Li 30' 40.05"/Swat/1/Li/Sg> Neptune ® : 18 Sc 04' 00.48"/Jye/1/Sc/Sg> Pluto : 15 Vi 37' 45.06"/Hast/2/Vi/Ta> > 04. Graha's in Rashi's / Bhava & Main features of Horoscope (Natal> Chart) are as following :> > House Start Cusp End Planets in it> 1st 29 Ge 04' 57.71" 14 Cn 04' 57.71" 29 Cn 04' 57.71" As, Ve, Sa> 2nd 29 Cn 04' 57.71" 14 Le 04' 57.71" 29 Le 04' 57.71" Ma> 3rd 29 Le 04' 57.71" 14 Vi 04' 57.71" 29 Vi 04' 57.71" Pl> 4th 29 Vi 04' 57.71" 14 Li 04' 57.71" 29 Li 04' 57.71" Ra, Ur> 5th 29 Li 04' 57.71" 14 Sc 04' 57.71" 29 Sc 04' 57.71" Ne> 6th 29 Sc 04' 57.71" 14 Sg 04' 57.71" 29 Sg 04' 57.71" > 7th 29 Sg 04' 57.71" 14 Cp 04' 57.71" 29 Cp 04' 57.71" Mo> 8th 29 Cp 04' 57.71" 14 Aq 04' 57.71" 29 Aq 04' 57.71" > 9th 29 Aq 04' 57.71" 14 Pi 04' 57.71" 29 Pi 04' 57.71" > 10th 29 Pi 04' 57.71" 14 Ar 04' 57.71" 29 Ar 04' 57.71" Ke> 11th 29 Ar 04' 57.71" 14 Ta 04' 57.71" 29 Ta 04' 57.71" Ju> 12th 29 Ta 04' 57.71" 14 Ge 04' 57.71" 29 Ge 04' 57.71" Su, Me> > Tanu Bhava / First House : Moon is Lord of Lagna (because Cancer Rashi> in Lagna is Moon's main Rashi) and Depositor of Venus and Saturn.> Jupiter is exalted here, which reveals the protective quality of the> sign. Mars is debilitated, signifying inaction as the most trying> experience for Cancer. Depositor of Saturn and Venus.> > Because Saturn & Venus are Depositor of Moon, hence Moon may take over> the qualities (good/bad) of Saturn & Moon.> > As per PD : If Venus and Saturn be together, the native will be short> sighted. Such a person earns wealth and becomes prosperous through a> young woman. He will be well versed in painting and writing.> > Basic Avastha (age + alerness + mood) of Venus : Mrita (dead) +> Sushupta (asleep) + Duhkhita (distressed)> Basic Avastha (age + alerness + mood) of Saturn : Vriddha (old) +> Sushupta (asleep) + Duhkhita (distressed)> > Upagraha significance : Mrityu. > Lagna Nakshatra : Pushya. > > MKS : Saturn is in marana karaka sthana in Tanu Bhava/First House. > Yoga :> > Outer Planets Rashi Drishti : Uranus has Rashi Drishti to Cn.> > 05.01 Rashi Drishti : Lagna is Cancer Rashi which is a movable Rashi.> Movable Rashis are aspecting other Rashis - and receiving aspects from> them - namely the Fixed Rashis, except the one close-by.> > Therefore Lagna is drishtied by and aspecting Taurus Rashi, Scorpio> Rashi and Aquarius Rashi, but not Leo Rashi because that fixed Rashi> is adjacent to Cancer Rashi. Cancer rashi is a benefic rashi.> > Lagna aspecting Ta = Ve + Sa in Cn drishtied by Ju & aspecting Ju > Lagna aspecting Sc = Ve + Sa in Cn drishtied by (Ne) & aspecting (Ne),> (Ne) = retrograde> Lagna aspecting Aq = Ve + Sa in Cn drishtied by Ke & aspecting Ke> > From KVS :> > Effects of Venus in Cn : If Venus occupies CANCER at the time of ones> birth, he will be wise, virtuous, learned, strong, soft, chief among> men, will have desired happiness and wealth, be good-looking, just,> very much troubled on account of women and wine and will be miserable> with family troubles.> > As Ve is drishtied by & aspecting Ju + (Ne) + Ke & Ve, hence the> Effect of Ve in Cn aspected by the same is as following : If Venus is> in Cancer and is aspected by Jupiter, one will be endowed with many> servants, sons, happiness, relatives and friends and be dear to king.> > Effects of Saturn in Cn : If Saturn is in Cancer, one will possess a> beloved wife, be devoid of wealth in boyhood, will suffer many> diseases, be learned, motherless, soft-spoken, distinguished in acts,> will always contract diseases, will trouble others, be inimical to> relatives, crooked, be kingly in his mid-life and will enjoy growing> pleasures.> > As Sa drishtied by & aspecting Ju + (Ne) + Ke & Ve, hence the Effect> of Sa in Cn aspected by the same is as following : If Saturn is in> Cancer and is aspected by Jupiter, one will be endowed with lands,> houses, friends, sons, wealth, gems and wife.> > 05.02 Graha Drishti > > Basics are as following : > a) 07H = 100%> b) 04H & 08H = 75% except for Mars for which these are full aspects.> c) 05H & 09H = 50% (Trikonas) except for Jupiter for which these are> full aspects.> d) 03H & 10H = 25% except for Saturn for which these are full aspects.> e) 03H & 10H = 25% for all other planets i.e. Ju + > > 100% aspecting : Cn Sa & Cn Ve in Lagna aspecting Cp Mo in 7H (100%). > 100% aspecting : Because Saturn also aspects 03H & 10H fully (100%)> hence Saturn is aspecting Virgo Rashi & Aries Rashi (with well placed> Ketu in 10th/Lagna) fully as well. There are no planets / graha's in> Virgo Rashi.> 100% aspected by : Cn Sa & Cn Ve also aspected by Cp Mo 100% as Cn Sa> & Cn Ve are 7H from Cp Mo. Also aspected by Sc (Ne)> > 75% aspecting : Cn Sa & Cn Ve in Lagna aspecting Li Ra & Li Ur in 4H > 75% aspected by : Cn Sa & Cn Ve is aspected by Ar Ke. > > 50% aspecting : Cn Sa & Cn Ve in Lagna aspecting Sc (Ne) & Pi. There> are no planets / graha's in Pisces Rashi> 50% aspected by : Sc (Ne)> > 25% aspecting : Cn Sa & Cn Ve in Lagna aspecting Ar Ke. Because Venus> also aspects 3H & 10H at 25%m, hence Cn Ve also aspects Virgo Rashi & > Ar Ke.> 25% aspected by : Cn Sa & Cn Ve is aspected by Ta Ju (3H) & aspected> by Li Ra & Li Ur (10H).> > Graha in Rashi & Nakshatra : Venus & Saturn in Cancer Rashi in Pushya> Nakshatra.> > I am lost as I do not know where to begin with interpreting aspect to> & aspect by the First House / Tanu Bhava.> > Regards,> > Amit>

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Dear Sunilji,

 

Thank you for the posting and the welcome note.

 

My birth time that was posted was rectified by Sheevaniji and as such,

I beleive that no further rectification is required.

 

MKS = Marana Karaka Sthana

 

Parivartana - does it mean enemity ?

 

Just for further input / reference : I have Ju MD and Ju AD as

following : Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

 

Jup MD: 2007-05-04 - 2023-05-04

Jup AD: 2007-05-04 - 2009-06-22

 

Pratyantardasas in this AD:

 

Jup: 2007-05-04 - 2007-08-18

Sat: 2007-08-18 - 2007-12-19

Merc: 2007-12-19 - 2008-04-05

Ket: 2008-04-05 - 2008-05-21

Ven: 2008-05-21 - 2008-10-01

Sun: 2008-10-01 - 2008-11-09

Moon: 2008-11-09 - 2009-01-11

Mars: 2009-01-11 - 2009-02-24

Rah: 2009-02-24 - 2009-06-22

 

I am going through MD Ju + AD Ju + PD Ve till 1.10.2008.

 

When my Jupiter MD started in 4.5.2007, shortly after it started, my

land matter also got activated after a slumber / hybernation of 7

years i.e. after no movement / progress in the land I purchased. It

got activated exactly on 7.8.2008.

 

I had MD Ju + AD Ju + PD Ju + Sd Ra + PAD Sat as following when i got

news that Malaysian Govt is acquiring the land as following :

 

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

Jup MD: 2007-05-04 (0:02:12) - 2023-05-04 (2:26:55)

Jup AD: 2007-05-04 (0:02:12) - 2009-06-22 (11:58:21)

Jup PD: 2007-05-04 (0:02:12) - 2007-08-18 (22:15:57)

Rah SD: 2007-08-02 (21:54:18) - 2007-08-18 (22:15:57)

Sat PAD: 2007-08-07 (11:02:21) - 2007-08-09 (23:56:36)

 

Value of land has increased from i.e. $1.00 to $6.90 over the last 7 /

8 years and payee/acquirer is not an individual/corporation but the

Government so no risk of non-payment or default.

 

Wanted to buy the whole land from multiple co-owners (approx 80++

co-owners) in year 2000 but managed to conclude from only approx 40

owners. Ended up having aprox 60% beneficial share in land.

 

When i say beneficial means we only paid 10% of $1.00 and were suppose

to pay the balance 90% of $1.00 was suppose to be paid before transfer

/ acquisition.

 

When acquisition notice came, we paid the balance 90% but owners did

not accept payment as value had increased multifold. Legally, we paid,

if they accept or not we have concluded the transaction and they have

breached / refused to complete the transaction.

 

Land office gave an award of $6.90 and now the matter is stuck

(probably going to Court) as Land Office awared part compensation to

us (we got 10% of $1.00) and part to land owners (they got $6.80).

 

We have collected our award of 10% of $1.00 and have filed objections

to the award given by the land office to the so called " owner " and

they can't get the money from the land offcie until a settlement is

reached with us or unless a court order granted as to who is entitled

to the compensation.

 

We couldn't tranfer land unto our name in time as the owners were

suppose to get a fresh title (the old one was lost) and they never

applied for a new title so the fault also is due to them.

 

The above is my biggest challange and solution in life when it comes

to profession. On another note I am into plastic recycling and thats

not doing so great for now as everything is revolving around this

property matter.

 

I only have younger 1 brother and he is currently travelling all pover

the world right now on so called " learning " vacation as an ambassador

of the Rotary Club of Malaysia.

 

On my marraige front, have a wonderful and beautiful wife who gave me

3 beautiful kids. Eldest is Daughter and rest 2 sons.

 

I am temperement with extremes (can be as peacefull as no tides at sea

and can be a tsunami also) so not difficult and yet not easy to be

with me.

 

Dad met with a serious accident on 25.2.2008 and had to undergo major

surgery to fix metal ball in his shoulder joint and his right arm is

not fully functioning although he has full functions of his hand &

part function of his arm (as muscles were cut in surgery) and can move

the arm left to right but can't raise the arm yet (physio therapy

still ongoing).

 

Jupiter MD - have not been able to see great wealth or great good out

of Ju yet but not giving up hope as good times will definately some.

 

Ju MD is trying and full ob obstacles for now but some light will come

out of Guru's dasa as Guru's is probably making me do sadhana for now.

 

If you have any other questions, kindly do not hesitate to ask.

 

Regards,

 

Amit.

 

 

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> hare ramakrishna

>

> dear Amit ji

>

> u r welcome to the grp . I like the way u try to analyse ur chart ,

> but i hav a doubt ,what is this MKS??

>

> In ur chart sani is in parivarthana with moon ,

>

> also i lov to hear abt ur present dasa ie jup dasa ,how is it working

> in marital and professional frnt also if possible u can giv a breif

> discussion abt other areas of life like ur brothers ,parents while u r

> jup dasa was progressing as in its own sub .if u dont mind giv a

> breifing for grps learning experience .

>

> also always try to giv us or any one the avilable birth time ( means un

> rectified birth time ) unless u 100% feel its wrong ,other wise i find

> each system follows its own methods in rectification of birth time and

> other astrologers may go wrong in their reading s .

>

> so giv birth time as it is recorded by parents or hospitals .

>

> also u can get a good learning exprnce here also esp u r in safe hands (

> with shivani ji to guide u )

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

>

>

> , " Amit Rajaishwar "

> <rajshwar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sheevaniji & All,

> >

> > Firstly, my thanks to Sheevaniji for guiding me to this website /

> forum.

> >

> > Secondly my respect and namaskar to everyone here.

> >

> > Friends call me Amit and I am from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia and I am a

> > beginner trying to learn astrology with everyone's guidance and would

> > appreciate any feedback and guidance here.

> >

> > Sheevaniji, although I have sent the same to you (in much more detail

> > -with my comments and findings), I am posting it here to seek guidance

> > and look at the many ways / views on interpreting a chart.

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > I have Jhora software and I am using it for my horoscope reading and

> > learning activities.

> >

> > My details are as following (Shevaaniji has helped correct the birth

> > time) :

> >

> > Name : Amit Rajaishwar

> > Date : July 13, 1976

> > Time : 7:55:00

> > Time Zone : 7:30:00 (East of GMT) - Corrected

> > Place : 101 E 42' 00 " , 3 N 10' 00 " (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia)

> > Altitude : 0.00 meters

> >

> > Lunar Yr-Mo : Nala - Ashadha

> > Tithi : Krishna Dwitiya (Mo) (46.94% left)

> > Vedic Weekday : Tuesday (Ma)

> > Nakshatra : Sravanam (Mo) (58.10% left)

> > Yoga : Vishkambha (Sa) (3.96% left)

> > Karana : Garija (Ju) (93.89% left)

> > Hora Lord : Mars (5 min sign: Li)

> > Mahakala Hora : Mars (5 min sign: Li)

> > Kaala Lord : Mars (Mahakala: Jupiter)

> >

> > Sunrise : 6:43:46

> > Sunset : 18:53:57

> > Janma Ghatis : 2.9683

> >

> > Ayanamsa : 23-31-45.35

> > Sidereal Time : 2:35:53

> >

> > 02. DEFINITION OF GRAHA POSITIONS (taken from JHora):

> > Body/Longitude/Nakshatra/Pada/Rasi/Navamsa/Element and Quality

> > Lagna: 14 Cn 04' 57.71 " /Push/4/Cn/Sc/movable + water = Cancer

> > Sun – AK: 27 Ge 13' 10.29 " /Puna/3/Ge/Ge/fire in dual + air =

> Gemini

> > Moon – BK: 15 Cp 35' 10.56 " /Srav/2/Cp/Ta/water in movable + earth

> =

> > Capricorn

> > Mars – PK : 10 Le 09' 00.04 " /Magh/4/Le/Cn/fire in fix + fire = Leo

> > Mercury – AmK: 24 Ge 09' 10.61 " /Puna/2/Ge/Ta/earth in dual + air =

> Gemini

> > Jupiter – DK: 0 Ta 49' 25.34 " /Krit/2/Ta/Cp/ether in fix + earth =

> Taurus

> > Venus – GK: 4 Cn 05' 38.21 " /Push/1/Cn/Le/water in movable + water

> =

> > Cancer

> > Saturn – PiK: 10 Cn 54' 55.43 " /Push/3/Cn/Li/air in movable + water

> =

> > Cancer

> > Rahu - MK: 15 Li 28' 27.03 " /Swat/3/Li/Aq/air in movable + air = Libra

> > Ketu : 15 Ar 28' 27.03 " /Bhar/1/Ar/Le/fire in movable + fire = Aries

> > Uranus : 9 Li 30' 40.05 " /Swat/1/Li/Sg

> > Neptune ® : 18 Sc 04' 00.48 " /Jye/1/Sc/Sg

> > Pluto : 15 Vi 37' 45.06 " /Hast/2/Vi/Ta

> >

> > 04. Graha's in Rashi's / Bhava & Main features of Horoscope (Natal

> > Chart) are as following :

> >

> > House Start Cusp End Planets in it

> > 1st 29 Ge 04' 57.71 " 14 Cn 04' 57.71 " 29 Cn 04' 57.71 " As, Ve, Sa

> > 2nd 29 Cn 04' 57.71 " 14 Le 04' 57.71 " 29 Le 04' 57.71 " Ma

> > 3rd 29 Le 04' 57.71 " 14 Vi 04' 57.71 " 29 Vi 04' 57.71 " Pl

> > 4th 29 Vi 04' 57.71 " 14 Li 04' 57.71 " 29 Li 04' 57.71 " Ra, Ur

> > 5th 29 Li 04' 57.71 " 14 Sc 04' 57.71 " 29 Sc 04' 57.71 " Ne

> > 6th 29 Sc 04' 57.71 " 14 Sg 04' 57.71 " 29 Sg 04' 57.71 "

> > 7th 29 Sg 04' 57.71 " 14 Cp 04' 57.71 " 29 Cp 04' 57.71 " Mo

> > 8th 29 Cp 04' 57.71 " 14 Aq 04' 57.71 " 29 Aq 04' 57.71 "

> > 9th 29 Aq 04' 57.71 " 14 Pi 04' 57.71 " 29 Pi 04' 57.71 "

> > 10th 29 Pi 04' 57.71 " 14 Ar 04' 57.71 " 29 Ar 04' 57.71 " Ke

> > 11th 29 Ar 04' 57.71 " 14 Ta 04' 57.71 " 29 Ta 04' 57.71 " Ju

> > 12th 29 Ta 04' 57.71 " 14 Ge 04' 57.71 " 29 Ge 04' 57.71 " Su, Me

> >

> > Tanu Bhava / First House : Moon is Lord of Lagna (because Cancer Rashi

> > in Lagna is Moon's main Rashi) and Depositor of Venus and Saturn.

> > Jupiter is exalted here, which reveals the protective quality of the

> > sign. Mars is debilitated, signifying inaction as the most trying

> > experience for Cancer. Depositor of Saturn and Venus.

> >

> > Because Saturn & Venus are Depositor of Moon, hence Moon may take over

> > the qualities (good/bad) of Saturn & Moon.

> >

> > As per PD : If Venus and Saturn be together, the native will be short

> > sighted. Such a person earns wealth and becomes prosperous through a

> > young woman. He will be well versed in painting and writing.

> >

> > Basic Avastha (age + alerness + mood) of Venus : Mrita (dead) +

> > Sushupta (asleep) + Duhkhita (distressed)

> > Basic Avastha (age + alerness + mood) of Saturn : Vriddha (old) +

> > Sushupta (asleep) + Duhkhita (distressed)

> >

> > Upagraha significance : Mrityu.

> > Lagna Nakshatra : Pushya.

> >

> > MKS : Saturn is in marana karaka sthana in Tanu Bhava/First House.

> > Yoga :

> >

> > Outer Planets Rashi Drishti : Uranus has Rashi Drishti to Cn.

> >

> > 05.01 Rashi Drishti : Lagna is Cancer Rashi which is a movable Rashi.

> > Movable Rashis are aspecting other Rashis - and receiving aspects from

> > them - namely the Fixed Rashis, except the one close-by.

> >

> > Therefore Lagna is drishtied by and aspecting Taurus Rashi, Scorpio

> > Rashi and Aquarius Rashi, but not Leo Rashi because that fixed Rashi

> > is adjacent to Cancer Rashi. Cancer rashi is a benefic rashi.

> >

> > Lagna aspecting Ta = Ve + Sa in Cn drishtied by Ju & aspecting Ju

> > Lagna aspecting Sc = Ve + Sa in Cn drishtied by (Ne) & aspecting (Ne),

> > (Ne) = retrograde

> > Lagna aspecting Aq = Ve + Sa in Cn drishtied by Ke & aspecting Ke

> >

> > From KVS :

> >

> > Effects of Venus in Cn : If Venus occupies CANCER at the time of ones

> > birth, he will be wise, virtuous, learned, strong, soft, chief among

> > men, will have desired happiness and wealth, be good-looking, just,

> > very much troubled on account of women and wine and will be miserable

> > with family troubles.

> >

> > As Ve is drishtied by & aspecting Ju + (Ne) + Ke & Ve, hence the

> > Effect of Ve in Cn aspected by the same is as following : If Venus is

> > in Cancer and is aspected by Jupiter, one will be endowed with many

> > servants, sons, happiness, relatives and friends and be dear to king.

> >

> > Effects of Saturn in Cn : If Saturn is in Cancer, one will possess a

> > beloved wife, be devoid of wealth in boyhood, will suffer many

> > diseases, be learned, motherless, soft-spoken, distinguished in acts,

> > will always contract diseases, will trouble others, be inimical to

> > relatives, crooked, be kingly in his mid-life and will enjoy growing

> > pleasures.

> >

> > As Sa drishtied by & aspecting Ju + (Ne) + Ke & Ve, hence the Effect

> > of Sa in Cn aspected by the same is as following : If Saturn is in

> > Cancer and is aspected by Jupiter, one will be endowed with lands,

> > houses, friends, sons, wealth, gems and wife.

> >

> > 05.02 Graha Drishti

> >

> > Basics are as following :

> > a) 07H = 100%

> > b) 04H & 08H = 75% except for Mars for which these are full aspects.

> > c) 05H & 09H = 50% (Trikonas) except for Jupiter for which these are

> > full aspects.

> > d) 03H & 10H = 25% except for Saturn for which these are full aspects.

> > e) 03H & 10H = 25% for all other planets i.e. Ju +

> >

> > 100% aspecting : Cn Sa & Cn Ve in Lagna aspecting Cp Mo in 7H (100%).

> > 100% aspecting : Because Saturn also aspects 03H & 10H fully (100%)

> > hence Saturn is aspecting Virgo Rashi & Aries Rashi (with well placed

> > Ketu in 10th/Lagna) fully as well. There are no planets / graha's in

> > Virgo Rashi.

> > 100% aspected by : Cn Sa & Cn Ve also aspected by Cp Mo 100% as Cn Sa

> > & Cn Ve are 7H from Cp Mo. Also aspected by Sc (Ne)

> >

> > 75% aspecting : Cn Sa & Cn Ve in Lagna aspecting Li Ra & Li Ur in 4H

> > 75% aspected by : Cn Sa & Cn Ve is aspected by Ar Ke.

> >

> > 50% aspecting : Cn Sa & Cn Ve in Lagna aspecting Sc (Ne) & Pi. There

> > are no planets / graha's in Pisces Rashi

> > 50% aspected by : Sc (Ne)

> >

> > 25% aspecting : Cn Sa & Cn Ve in Lagna aspecting Ar Ke. Because Venus

> > also aspects 3H & 10H at 25%m, hence Cn Ve also aspects Virgo Rashi &

> > Ar Ke.

> > 25% aspected by : Cn Sa & Cn Ve is aspected by Ta Ju (3H) & aspected

> > by Li Ra & Li Ur (10H).

> >

> > Graha in Rashi & Nakshatra : Venus & Saturn in Cancer Rashi in Pushya

> > Nakshatra.

> >

> > I am lost as I do not know where to begin with interpreting aspect to

> > & aspect by the First House / Tanu Bhava.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Amit

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hare rama krishna .

dear Amit ji

Thanks for the feed back .I realy smelled some thing fishy in jup dasa ,but absence of authenticity of birth time cant conclude it as vargas it may affect too .

i asked u to tell abt wat was authenticity of ur BT ,is it was hospital records??or mom was giving various timing ,some one who rectified it was rectified in 2 hrs or 6 hrs window time frame u hav given etc ,as various ppl in this grp follows diffrnt systems like KP ,KAS,vedic astrology ,jaimini etc ,so i wanted to ease their job of researching .As this grp is established mainly for reserching the old sastras and rishi horas than just learning in parrot way and like al quaida style adopting it and clinging to it what ever may happen we wont change our attitude .

Now abt mararana karaka stana ,i know abt it ,but can u tell me how it has worked in ur chart .

parivarthan means exchange ,u can see moon and sat is exchnging signs .

 

Also what is this KVS ,what is expansion of it

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

 

, "Amit Rajaishwar" <rajshwar wrote:>> Dear Sunilji,> > Thank you for the posting and the welcome note.> > My birth time that was posted was rectified by Sheevaniji and as such,> I beleive that no further rectification is required.> > MKS = Marana Karaka Sthana> > Parivartana - does it mean enemity ?> > Just for further input / reference : I have Ju MD and Ju AD as> following : Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):> > Jup MD: 2007-05-04 - 2023-05-04> Jup AD: 2007-05-04 - 2009-06-22> > Pratyantardasas in this AD:> > Jup: 2007-05-04 - 2007-08-18> Sat: 2007-08-18 - 2007-12-19> Merc: 2007-12-19 - 2008-04-05> Ket: 2008-04-05 - 2008-05-21> Ven: 2008-05-21 - 2008-10-01> Sun: 2008-10-01 - 2008-11-09> Moon: 2008-11-09 - 2009-01-11> Mars: 2009-01-11 - 2009-02-24> Rah: 2009-02-24 - 2009-06-22> > I am going through MD Ju + AD Ju + PD Ve till 1.10.2008.> > When my Jupiter MD started in 4.5.2007, shortly after it started, my> land matter also got activated after a slumber / hybernation of 7> years i.e. after no movement / progress in the land I purchased. It> got activated exactly on 7.8.2008.> > I had MD Ju + AD Ju + PD Ju + Sd Ra + PAD Sat as following when i got> news that Malaysian Govt is acquiring the land as following :> > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):> Jup MD: 2007-05-04 (0:02:12) - 2023-05-04 (2:26:55)> Jup AD: 2007-05-04 (0:02:12) - 2009-06-22 (11:58:21)> Jup PD: 2007-05-04 (0:02:12) - 2007-08-18 (22:15:57)> Rah SD: 2007-08-02 (21:54:18) - 2007-08-18 (22:15:57)> Sat PAD: 2007-08-07 (11:02:21) - 2007-08-09 (23:56:36)> > Value of land has increased from i.e. $1.00 to $6.90 over the last 7 /> 8 years and payee/acquirer is not an individual/corporation but the> Government so no risk of non-payment or default.> > Wanted to buy the whole land from multiple co-owners (approx 80++> co-owners) in year 2000 but managed to conclude from only approx 40> owners. Ended up having aprox 60% beneficial share in land.> > When i say beneficial means we only paid 10% of $1.00 and were suppose> to pay the balance 90% of $1.00 was suppose to be paid before transfer> / acquisition. > > When acquisition notice came, we paid the balance 90% but owners did> not accept payment as value had increased multifold. Legally, we paid,> if they accept or not we have concluded the transaction and they have> breached / refused to complete the transaction.> > Land office gave an award of $6.90 and now the matter is stuck> (probably going to Court) as Land Office awared part compensation to> us (we got 10% of $1.00) and part to land owners (they got $6.80).> > We have collected our award of 10% of $1.00 and have filed objections> to the award given by the land office to the so called "owner" and> they can't get the money from the land offcie until a settlement is> reached with us or unless a court order granted as to who is entitled> to the compensation.> > We couldn't tranfer land unto our name in time as the owners were> suppose to get a fresh title (the old one was lost) and they never> applied for a new title so the fault also is due to them.> > The above is my biggest challange and solution in life when it comes> to profession. On another note I am into plastic recycling and thats> not doing so great for now as everything is revolving around this> property matter.> > I only have younger 1 brother and he is currently travelling all pover> the world right now on so called "learning" vacation as an ambassador> of the Rotary Club of Malaysia.> > On my marraige front, have a wonderful and beautiful wife who gave me> 3 beautiful kids. Eldest is Daughter and rest 2 sons.> > I am temperement with extremes (can be as peacefull as no tides at sea> and can be a tsunami also) so not difficult and yet not easy to be> with me.> > Dad met with a serious accident on 25.2.2008 and had to undergo major> surgery to fix metal ball in his shoulder joint and his right arm is> not fully functioning although he has full functions of his hand & > part function of his arm (as muscles were cut in surgery) and can move> the arm left to right but can't raise the arm yet (physio therapy> still ongoing).> > Jupiter MD - have not been able to see great wealth or great good out> of Ju yet but not giving up hope as good times will definately some. > > Ju MD is trying and full ob obstacles for now but some light will come> out of Guru's dasa as Guru's is probably making me do sadhana for now. > > If you have any other questions, kindly do not hesitate to ask.> > Regards,> > Amit.> > > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > hare ramakrishna> > > > dear Amit ji> > > > u r welcome to the grp . I like the way u try to analyse ur chart ,> > but i hav a doubt ,what is this MKS??> > > > In ur chart sani is in parivarthana with moon ,> > > > also i lov to hear abt ur present dasa ie jup dasa ,how is it working > > in marital and professional frnt also if possible u can giv a breif> > discussion abt other areas of life like ur brothers ,parents while u r> > jup dasa was progressing as in its own sub .if u dont mind giv a> > breifing for grps learning experience .> > > > also always try to giv us or any one the avilable birth time ( means un> > rectified birth time ) unless u 100% feel its wrong ,other wise i find> > each system follows its own methods in rectification of birth time and> > other astrologers may go wrong in their reading s . > > > > so giv birth time as it is recorded by parents or hospitals .> > > > also u can get a good learning exprnce here also esp u r in safe hands (> > with shivani ji to guide u )> > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunilji,

 

Thank you for the posting and reply.

 

My birth time is actually from my birth certificate from hospital records.

 

The timings are correct based on my observations of my life

experiences when referred to dasa's and other references.

 

When I said Shevaniji rectified it, I meant that my birth place i.e.

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia - current standard is 8 hrs East of GMT but

prior to 1986 it was 7.30 hrs East of GMT.

 

I was born in 1976 and since there was some adjustment in timing by

the Govt of Malaysia after 1986, as such the actual time is 7.30 hrs

East of GMT.

 

Hope the above suffices for now.

 

I have not been able to see how MKS has worked but I know that my

Shani Bhagwan is suppose to be weak when it comes to Shadbala. Can you

help or guide or advice on this matter as I am still looking at it and

have not found answers yets.

 

KVS = Kalyana Varmas Saravali. Sorry i used short forms.

 

Regards,

 

Amit

 

 

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> Hare rama krishna .

>

> dear Amit ji

>

> Thanks for the feed back .I realy smelled some thing fishy in jup

> dasa ,but absence of authenticity of birth time cant conclude it as

> vargas it may affect too .

>

> i asked u to tell abt wat was authenticity of ur BT ,is it was hospital

> records??or mom was giving various timing ,some one who rectified it was

> rectified in 2 hrs or 6 hrs window time frame u hav given etc ,as

> various ppl in this grp follows diffrnt systems like KP ,KAS,vedic

> astrology ,jaimini etc ,so i wanted to ease their job of researching .As

> this grp is established mainly for reserching the old sastras and rishi

> horas than just learning in parrot way and like al quaida style adopting

> it and clinging to it what ever may happen we wont change our attitude .

>

> Now abt mararana karaka stana ,i know abt it ,but can u tell me how it

> has worked in ur chart .

>

> parivarthan means exchange ,u can see moon and sat is exchnging signs .

>

>

>

> Also what is this KVS ,what is expansion of it

>

>

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

>

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah

>

>

>

> , " Amit Rajaishwar "

> <rajshwar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sunilji,

> >

> > Thank you for the posting and the welcome note.

> >

> > My birth time that was posted was rectified by Sheevaniji and as such,

> > I beleive that no further rectification is required.

> >

> > MKS = Marana Karaka Sthana

> >

> > Parivartana - does it mean enemity ?

> >

> > Just for further input / reference : I have Ju MD and Ju AD as

> > following : Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

> >

> > Jup MD: 2007-05-04 - 2023-05-04

> > Jup AD: 2007-05-04 - 2009-06-22

> >

> > Pratyantardasas in this AD:

> >

> > Jup: 2007-05-04 - 2007-08-18

> > Sat: 2007-08-18 - 2007-12-19

> > Merc: 2007-12-19 - 2008-04-05

> > Ket: 2008-04-05 - 2008-05-21

> > Ven: 2008-05-21 - 2008-10-01

> > Sun: 2008-10-01 - 2008-11-09

> > Moon: 2008-11-09 - 2009-01-11

> > Mars: 2009-01-11 - 2009-02-24

> > Rah: 2009-02-24 - 2009-06-22

> >

> > I am going through MD Ju + AD Ju + PD Ve till 1.10.2008.

> >

> > When my Jupiter MD started in 4.5.2007, shortly after it started, my

> > land matter also got activated after a slumber / hybernation of 7

> > years i.e. after no movement / progress in the land I purchased. It

> > got activated exactly on 7.8.2008.

> >

> > I had MD Ju + AD Ju + PD Ju + Sd Ra + PAD Sat as following when i got

> > news that Malaysian Govt is acquiring the land as following :

> >

> > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

> > Jup MD: 2007-05-04 (0:02:12) - 2023-05-04 (2:26:55)

> > Jup AD: 2007-05-04 (0:02:12) - 2009-06-22 (11:58:21)

> > Jup PD: 2007-05-04 (0:02:12) - 2007-08-18 (22:15:57)

> > Rah SD: 2007-08-02 (21:54:18) - 2007-08-18 (22:15:57)

> > Sat PAD: 2007-08-07 (11:02:21) - 2007-08-09 (23:56:36)

> >

> > Value of land has increased from i.e. $1.00 to $6.90 over the last 7 /

> > 8 years and payee/acquirer is not an individual/corporation but the

> > Government so no risk of non-payment or default.

> >

> > Wanted to buy the whole land from multiple co-owners (approx 80++

> > co-owners) in year 2000 but managed to conclude from only approx 40

> > owners. Ended up having aprox 60% beneficial share in land.

> >

> > When i say beneficial means we only paid 10% of $1.00 and were suppose

> > to pay the balance 90% of $1.00 was suppose to be paid before transfer

> > / acquisition.

> >

> > When acquisition notice came, we paid the balance 90% but owners did

> > not accept payment as value had increased multifold. Legally, we paid,

> > if they accept or not we have concluded the transaction and they have

> > breached / refused to complete the transaction.

> >

> > Land office gave an award of $6.90 and now the matter is stuck

> > (probably going to Court) as Land Office awared part compensation to

> > us (we got 10% of $1.00) and part to land owners (they got $6.80).

> >

> > We have collected our award of 10% of $1.00 and have filed objections

> > to the award given by the land office to the so called " owner " and

> > they can't get the money from the land offcie until a settlement is

> > reached with us or unless a court order granted as to who is entitled

> > to the compensation.

> >

> > We couldn't tranfer land unto our name in time as the owners were

> > suppose to get a fresh title (the old one was lost) and they never

> > applied for a new title so the fault also is due to them.

> >

> > The above is my biggest challange and solution in life when it comes

> > to profession. On another note I am into plastic recycling and thats

> > not doing so great for now as everything is revolving around this

> > property matter.

> >

> > I only have younger 1 brother and he is currently travelling all pover

> > the world right now on so called " learning " vacation as an ambassador

> > of the Rotary Club of Malaysia.

> >

> > On my marraige front, have a wonderful and beautiful wife who gave me

> > 3 beautiful kids. Eldest is Daughter and rest 2 sons.

> >

> > I am temperement with extremes (can be as peacefull as no tides at sea

> > and can be a tsunami also) so not difficult and yet not easy to be

> > with me.

> >

> > Dad met with a serious accident on 25.2.2008 and had to undergo major

> > surgery to fix metal ball in his shoulder joint and his right arm is

> > not fully functioning although he has full functions of his hand &

> > part function of his arm (as muscles were cut in surgery) and can move

> > the arm left to right but can't raise the arm yet (physio therapy

> > still ongoing).

> >

> > Jupiter MD - have not been able to see great wealth or great good out

> > of Ju yet but not giving up hope as good times will definately some.

> >

> > Ju MD is trying and full ob obstacles for now but some light will come

> > out of Guru's dasa as Guru's is probably making me do sadhana for now.

> >

> > If you have any other questions, kindly do not hesitate to ask.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Amit.

> >

> >

> > , " sunil nair "

> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > >

> > > hare ramakrishna

> > >

> > > dear Amit ji

> > >

> > > u r welcome to the grp . I like the way u try to analyse ur chart ,

> > > but i hav a doubt ,what is this MKS??

> > >

> > > In ur chart sani is in parivarthana with moon ,

> > >

> > > also i lov to hear abt ur present dasa ie jup dasa ,how is it

> working

> > > in marital and professional frnt also if possible u can giv a breif

> > > discussion abt other areas of life like ur brothers ,parents while u

> r

> > > jup dasa was progressing as in its own sub .if u dont mind giv a

> > > breifing for grps learning experience .

> > >

> > > also always try to giv us or any one the avilable birth time ( means

> un

> > > rectified birth time ) unless u 100% feel its wrong ,other wise i

> find

> > > each system follows its own methods in rectification of birth time

> and

> > > other astrologers may go wrong in their reading s .

> > >

> > > so giv birth time as it is recorded by parents or hospitals .

> > >

> > > also u can get a good learning exprnce here also esp u r in safe

> hands (

> > > with shivani ji to guide u )

> > >

> > > regrds sunil nair

> > >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

>

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

Sheevaniji has adviced the following for starters :

 

01. Identify Planets in houses – then identify lord of house.

 

02. Identify if planets in house r friends / enemies / neutral – then

look at the lord of the house to see if he is in temporary friend /

temporary enemy and conclude a compound relationship.

 

Look at the lord of the houses as landlord and the planets in the

houses as tenants.

 

Look at the natural relationship between the planets and then conclude

a compound relationship.

 

Will be preparing my posting based on the above.

 

Regards

 

Amit

 

, " Amit Rajaishwar "

<rajshwar wrote:

>

> Dear Sheevaniji & All,

>

> Firstly, my thanks to Sheevaniji for guiding me to this website /

forum.

>

> Secondly my respect and namaskar to everyone here.

>

> Friends call me Amit and I am from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia and I am a

> beginner trying to learn astrology with everyone's guidance and would

> appreciate any feedback and guidance here.

>

> Sheevaniji, although I have sent the same to you (in much more detail

> -with my comments and findings), I am posting it here to seek guidance

> and look at the many ways / views on interpreting a chart.

>

> Dear All,

>

> I have Jhora software and I am using it for my horoscope reading and

> learning activities.

>

> My details are as following (Shevaaniji has helped correct the birth

> time) :

>

> Name : Amit Rajaishwar

> Date : July 13, 1976

> Time : 7:55:00

> Time Zone : 7:30:00 (East of GMT) - Corrected

> Place : 101 E 42' 00 " , 3 N 10' 00 " (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia)

> Altitude : 0.00 meters

>

> Lunar Yr-Mo : Nala - Ashadha

> Tithi : Krishna Dwitiya (Mo) (46.94% left)

> Vedic Weekday : Tuesday (Ma)

> Nakshatra : Sravanam (Mo) (58.10% left)

> Yoga : Vishkambha (Sa) (3.96% left)

> Karana : Garija (Ju) (93.89% left)

> Hora Lord : Mars (5 min sign: Li)

> Mahakala Hora : Mars (5 min sign: Li)

> Kaala Lord : Mars (Mahakala: Jupiter)

>

> Sunrise : 6:43:46

> Sunset : 18:53:57

> Janma Ghatis : 2.9683

>

> Ayanamsa : 23-31-45.35

> Sidereal Time : 2:35:53

>

> 02. DEFINITION OF GRAHA POSITIONS (taken from JHora):

> Body/Longitude/Nakshatra/Pada/Rasi/Navamsa/Element and Quality

> Lagna: 14 Cn 04' 57.71 " /Push/4/Cn/Sc/movable + water = Cancer

> Sun – AK: 27 Ge 13' 10.29 " /Puna/3/Ge/Ge/fire in dual + air = Gemini

> Moon – BK: 15 Cp 35' 10.56 " /Srav/2/Cp/Ta/water in movable + earth =

> Capricorn

> Mars – PK : 10 Le 09' 00.04 " /Magh/4/Le/Cn/fire in fix + fire = Leo

> Mercury – AmK: 24 Ge 09' 10.61 " /Puna/2/Ge/Ta/earth in dual + air =

Gemini

> Jupiter – DK: 0 Ta 49' 25.34 " /Krit/2/Ta/Cp/ether in fix + earth = Taurus

> Venus – GK: 4 Cn 05' 38.21 " /Push/1/Cn/Le/water in movable + water =

> Cancer

> Saturn – PiK: 10 Cn 54' 55.43 " /Push/3/Cn/Li/air in movable + water =

> Cancer

> Rahu - MK: 15 Li 28' 27.03 " /Swat/3/Li/Aq/air in movable + air = Libra

> Ketu : 15 Ar 28' 27.03 " /Bhar/1/Ar/Le/fire in movable + fire = Aries

> Uranus : 9 Li 30' 40.05 " /Swat/1/Li/Sg

> Neptune ® : 18 Sc 04' 00.48 " /Jye/1/Sc/Sg

> Pluto : 15 Vi 37' 45.06 " /Hast/2/Vi/Ta

>

> 04. Graha's in Rashi's / Bhava & Main features of Horoscope (Natal

> Chart) are as following :

>

> House Start Cusp End Planets in it

> 1st 29 Ge 04' 57.71 " 14 Cn 04' 57.71 " 29 Cn 04' 57.71 " As, Ve, Sa

> 2nd 29 Cn 04' 57.71 " 14 Le 04' 57.71 " 29 Le 04' 57.71 " Ma

> 3rd 29 Le 04' 57.71 " 14 Vi 04' 57.71 " 29 Vi 04' 57.71 " Pl

> 4th 29 Vi 04' 57.71 " 14 Li 04' 57.71 " 29 Li 04' 57.71 " Ra, Ur

> 5th 29 Li 04' 57.71 " 14 Sc 04' 57.71 " 29 Sc 04' 57.71 " Ne

> 6th 29 Sc 04' 57.71 " 14 Sg 04' 57.71 " 29 Sg 04' 57.71 "

> 7th 29 Sg 04' 57.71 " 14 Cp 04' 57.71 " 29 Cp 04' 57.71 " Mo

> 8th 29 Cp 04' 57.71 " 14 Aq 04' 57.71 " 29 Aq 04' 57.71 "

> 9th 29 Aq 04' 57.71 " 14 Pi 04' 57.71 " 29 Pi 04' 57.71 "

> 10th 29 Pi 04' 57.71 " 14 Ar 04' 57.71 " 29 Ar 04' 57.71 " Ke

> 11th 29 Ar 04' 57.71 " 14 Ta 04' 57.71 " 29 Ta 04' 57.71 " Ju

> 12th 29 Ta 04' 57.71 " 14 Ge 04' 57.71 " 29 Ge 04' 57.71 " Su, Me

>

> Tanu Bhava / First House : Moon is Lord of Lagna (because Cancer Rashi

> in Lagna is Moon's main Rashi) and Depositor of Venus and Saturn.

> Jupiter is exalted here, which reveals the protective quality of the

> sign. Mars is debilitated, signifying inaction as the most trying

> experience for Cancer. Depositor of Saturn and Venus.

>

> Because Saturn & Venus are Depositor of Moon, hence Moon may take over

> the qualities (good/bad) of Saturn & Moon.

>

> As per PD : If Venus and Saturn be together, the native will be short

> sighted. Such a person earns wealth and becomes prosperous through a

> young woman. He will be well versed in painting and writing.

>

> Basic Avastha (age + alerness + mood) of Venus : Mrita (dead) +

> Sushupta (asleep) + Duhkhita (distressed)

> Basic Avastha (age + alerness + mood) of Saturn : Vriddha (old) +

> Sushupta (asleep) + Duhkhita (distressed)

>

> Upagraha significance : Mrityu.

> Lagna Nakshatra : Pushya.

>

> MKS : Saturn is in marana karaka sthana in Tanu Bhava/First House.

> Yoga :

>

> Outer Planets Rashi Drishti : Uranus has Rashi Drishti to Cn.

>

> 05.01 Rashi Drishti : Lagna is Cancer Rashi which is a movable Rashi.

> Movable Rashis are aspecting other Rashis - and receiving aspects from

> them - namely the Fixed Rashis, except the one close-by.

>

> Therefore Lagna is drishtied by and aspecting Taurus Rashi, Scorpio

> Rashi and Aquarius Rashi, but not Leo Rashi because that fixed Rashi

> is adjacent to Cancer Rashi. Cancer rashi is a benefic rashi.

>

> Lagna aspecting Ta = Ve + Sa in Cn drishtied by Ju & aspecting Ju

> Lagna aspecting Sc = Ve + Sa in Cn drishtied by (Ne) & aspecting (Ne),

> (Ne) = retrograde

> Lagna aspecting Aq = Ve + Sa in Cn drishtied by Ke & aspecting Ke

>

> From KVS :

>

> Effects of Venus in Cn : If Venus occupies CANCER at the time of ones

> birth, he will be wise, virtuous, learned, strong, soft, chief among

> men, will have desired happiness and wealth, be good-looking, just,

> very much troubled on account of women and wine and will be miserable

> with family troubles.

>

> As Ve is drishtied by & aspecting Ju + (Ne) + Ke & Ve, hence the

> Effect of Ve in Cn aspected by the same is as following : If Venus is

> in Cancer and is aspected by Jupiter, one will be endowed with many

> servants, sons, happiness, relatives and friends and be dear to king.

>

> Effects of Saturn in Cn : If Saturn is in Cancer, one will possess a

> beloved wife, be devoid of wealth in boyhood, will suffer many

> diseases, be learned, motherless, soft-spoken, distinguished in acts,

> will always contract diseases, will trouble others, be inimical to

> relatives, crooked, be kingly in his mid-life and will enjoy growing

> pleasures.

>

> As Sa drishtied by & aspecting Ju + (Ne) + Ke & Ve, hence the Effect

> of Sa in Cn aspected by the same is as following : If Saturn is in

> Cancer and is aspected by Jupiter, one will be endowed with lands,

> houses, friends, sons, wealth, gems and wife.

>

> 05.02 Graha Drishti

>

> Basics are as following :

> a) 07H = 100%

> b) 04H & 08H = 75% except for Mars for which these are full aspects.

> c) 05H & 09H = 50% (Trikonas) except for Jupiter for which these are

> full aspects.

> d) 03H & 10H = 25% except for Saturn for which these are full aspects.

> e) 03H & 10H = 25% for all other planets i.e. Ju +

>

> 100% aspecting : Cn Sa & Cn Ve in Lagna aspecting Cp Mo in 7H (100%).

> 100% aspecting : Because Saturn also aspects 03H & 10H fully (100%)

> hence Saturn is aspecting Virgo Rashi & Aries Rashi (with well placed

> Ketu in 10th/Lagna) fully as well. There are no planets / graha's in

> Virgo Rashi.

> 100% aspected by : Cn Sa & Cn Ve also aspected by Cp Mo 100% as Cn Sa

> & Cn Ve are 7H from Cp Mo. Also aspected by Sc (Ne)

>

> 75% aspecting : Cn Sa & Cn Ve in Lagna aspecting Li Ra & Li Ur in 4H

> 75% aspected by : Cn Sa & Cn Ve is aspected by Ar Ke.

>

> 50% aspecting : Cn Sa & Cn Ve in Lagna aspecting Sc (Ne) & Pi. There

> are no planets / graha's in Pisces Rashi

> 50% aspected by : Sc (Ne)

>

> 25% aspecting : Cn Sa & Cn Ve in Lagna aspecting Ar Ke. Because Venus

> also aspects 3H & 10H at 25%m, hence Cn Ve also aspects Virgo Rashi &

> Ar Ke.

> 25% aspected by : Cn Sa & Cn Ve is aspected by Ta Ju (3H) & aspected

> by Li Ra & Li Ur (10H).

>

> Graha in Rashi & Nakshatra : Venus & Saturn in Cancer Rashi in Pushya

> Nakshatra.

>

> I am lost as I do not know where to begin with interpreting aspect to

> & aspect by the First House / Tanu Bhava.

>

> Regards,

>

> Amit

>

[Guest guest]

Hare rama krishna

dear Amit ji .

Yes ,shivani ji given u right advise ,as the time Zone is correctly advised by her ,so its not birth time rectification .

 

Now coming to MKS .

 

I know some grp of astrologers promote MKS concept where as i find them using in Post mortem analysis as they fail to identify with other indication in chart ,so easy method is find the badaka or Planets in MKS or extent it to any extent by possible stretching to various dasas .Even go to vargas and use dasa their ,or go to higher vargas and manipulate .

Even i ask them to prove in last so many yrs and no one guru or sisyas never come with a right reply .Other wise i am open to study any new concepts frm any where .

Now sani dasa let us forget abt other bala and mathematical calculations of it for time being strt frm basics ,make ur basics right b4 running to the ultimate calculations and prnouncing the results or being fear abt it .Also at times we need to go slow or with care with on going dasas .Every planet has lot of layers of results in a chart .So chart reading as as difficult as permuations and combinations of 9 planets and 12 houses ,its aspects recvs and giving ,dasas ,gochara and ashtavargas and other vargas in chart ,The result is never uniform in similar charts .

 

Now as far as sat is concerned first of all its natural malefic and functional malefic .And read classics for better understanding than going to net and down load articles and easy reference s .So its results shud b taken with care .

otherwise MKS who does not hav it ??

INdira gandhi has sat in lagna and George bush has sat in Lagna ,i think if my memory is correct he is going tru sat Mahadasa .He become twice the prez of US in sat dasa .( i hate to discuss unverified celebrity charts unless the celibrity himself consulting me ,but using here to show the validity of MKS ,every celebrity as 3 0r a dozen BT making its rounds in net depending on the astrologers who pushed it .or even some net sites .Even some one goes to the extent that saying madam hillari consulted me ( even such a claim happened in this grp by a new memebr who thought he can take every one for a ride ) ,just now her office was after me like this ,and after the tempo is over the public forgets who giv wat predictions and then in later yrs the astrologer trumptes only his predictions which come true ,This is wat is happening in this era of communication and advtment )

 

Now if u go tru archives u can find that certain grp of people who claims their guru is incarnation Lord SIVA ( and now dattatreya also ) predicted that hillary will b US prez and its reveald by their human god guru and now all gone to underground ,and u can see they will come back in full force when every one forget it ,Same is the case of Market astrologers ,financial astrologers ,stock market predictions etc .So exercsie caution and first learn urself what is said in classics and then u go by it ,try it ,try it on 100s of charts ,

Ask doubts after digesting those dictums ,then pls come back and ask any doubts one by one

This grp we giv guidance only and never a reading .

 

U urself has to evolve ,

Nethi nethi ( not this, not this) find out urself

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

 

 

, "Amit Rajaishwar" <rajshwar wrote:>> Dear Sunilji,> > Thank you for the posting and reply.> > My birth time is actually from my birth certificate from hospital records.> > The timings are correct based on my observations of my life> experiences when referred to dasa's and other references.> > When I said Shevaniji rectified it, I meant that my birth place i.e.> Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia - current standard is 8 hrs East of GMT but> prior to 1986 it was 7.30 hrs East of GMT.> > I was born in 1976 and since there was some adjustment in timing by> the Govt of Malaysia after 1986, as such the actual time is 7.30 hrs> East of GMT.> > Hope the above suffices for now.> > I have not been able to see how MKS has worked but I know that my> Shani Bhagwan is suppose to be weak when it comes to Shadbala. Can you> help or guide or advice on this matter as I am still looking at it and> have not found answers yets.> > KVS = Kalyana Varmas Saravali. Sorry i used short forms. > > Regards,> > Amit> > > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > Hare rama krishna .> > > > dear Amit ji> > > > Thanks for the feed back .I realy smelled some thing fishy in jup> > dasa ,but absence of authenticity of birth time cant conclude it as> > vargas it may affect too .> > > > i asked u to tell abt wat was authenticity of ur BT ,is it was hospital> > records??or mom was giving various timing ,some one who rectified it was> > rectified in 2 hrs or 6 hrs window time frame u hav given etc ,as> > various ppl in this grp follows diffrnt systems like KP ,KAS,vedic> > astrology ,jaimini etc ,so i wanted to ease their job of researching .As> > this grp is established mainly for reserching the old sastras and rishi> > horas than just learning in parrot way and like al quaida style adopting> > it and clinging to it what ever may happen we wont change our attitude .> > > > Now abt mararana karaka stana ,i know abt it ,but can u tell me how it> > has worked in ur chart .> > > > parivarthan means exchange ,u can see moon and sat is exchnging signs .> > > > > > > > Also what is this KVS ,what is expansion of it> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > > > , "Amit Rajaishwar"> > <rajshwar@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunilji,> > >> > > Thank you for the posting and the welcome note.> > >> > > My birth time that was posted was rectified by Sheevaniji and as such,> > > I beleive that no further rectification is required.> > >> > > MKS = Marana Karaka Sthana> > >> > > Parivartana - does it mean enemity ?> > >> > > Just for further input / reference : I have Ju MD and Ju AD as> > > following : Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):> > >> > > Jup MD: 2007-05-04 - 2023-05-04> > > Jup AD: 2007-05-04 - 2009-06-22> > >> > > Pratyantardasas in this AD:> > >> > > Jup: 2007-05-04 - 2007-08-18> > > Sat: 2007-08-18 - 2007-12-19> > > Merc: 2007-12-19 - 2008-04-05> > > Ket: 2008-04-05 - 2008-05-21> > > Ven: 2008-05-21 - 2008-10-01> > > Sun: 2008-10-01 - 2008-11-09> > > Moon: 2008-11-09 - 2009-01-11> > > Mars: 2009-01-11 - 2009-02-24> > > Rah: 2009-02-24 - 2009-06-22> > >> > > I am going through MD Ju + AD Ju + PD Ve till 1.10.2008.> > >> > > When my Jupiter MD started in 4.5.2007, shortly after it started, my> > > land matter also got activated after a slumber / hybernation of 7> > > years i.e. after no movement / progress in the land I purchased. It> > > got activated exactly on 7.8.2008.> > >> > > I had MD Ju + AD Ju + PD Ju + Sd Ra + PAD Sat as following when i got> > > news that Malaysian Govt is acquiring the land as following :> > >> > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):> > > Jup MD: 2007-05-04 (0:02:12) - 2023-05-04 (2:26:55)> > > Jup AD: 2007-05-04 (0:02:12) - 2009-06-22 (11:58:21)> > > Jup PD: 2007-05-04 (0:02:12) - 2007-08-18 (22:15:57)> > > Rah SD: 2007-08-02 (21:54:18) - 2007-08-18 (22:15:57)> > > Sat PAD: 2007-08-07 (11:02:21) - 2007-08-09 (23:56:36)> > >> > > Value of land has increased from i.e. $1.00 to $6.90 over the last 7 /> > > 8 years and payee/acquirer is not an individual/corporation but the> > > Government so no risk of non-payment or default.> > >> > > Wanted to buy the whole land from multiple co-owners (approx 80++> > > co-owners) in year 2000 but managed to conclude from only approx 40> > > owners. Ended up having aprox 60% beneficial share in land.> > >> > > When i say beneficial means we only paid 10% of $1.00 and were suppose> > > to pay the balance 90% of $1.00 was suppose to be paid before transfer> > > / acquisition.> > >> > > When acquisition notice came, we paid the balance 90% but owners did> > > not accept payment as value had increased multifold. Legally, we paid,> > > if they accept or not we have concluded the transaction and they have> > > breached / refused to complete the transaction.> > >> > > Land office gave an award of $6.90 and now the matter is stuck> > > (probably going to Court) as Land Office awared part compensation to> > > us (we got 10% of $1.00) and part to land owners (they got $6.80).> > >> > > We have collected our award of 10% of $1.00 and have filed objections> > > to the award given by the land office to the so called "owner" and> > > they can't get the money from the land offcie until a settlement is> > > reached with us or unless a court order granted as to who is entitled> > > to the compensation.> > >> > > We couldn't tranfer land unto our name in time as the owners were> > > suppose to get a fresh title (the old one was lost) and they never> > > applied for a new title so the fault also is due to them.> > >> > > The above is my biggest challange and solution in life when it comes> > > to profession. On another note I am into plastic recycling and thats> > > not doing so great for now as everything is revolving around this> > > property matter.> > >> > > I only have younger 1 brother and he is currently travelling all pover> > > the world right now on so called "learning" vacation as an ambassador> > > of the Rotary Club of Malaysia.> > >> > > On my marraige front, have a wonderful and beautiful wife who gave me> > > 3 beautiful kids. Eldest is Daughter and rest 2 sons.> > >> > > I am temperement with extremes (can be as peacefull as no tides at sea> > > and can be a tsunami also) so not difficult and yet not easy to be> > > with me.> > >> > > Dad met with a serious accident on 25.2.2008 and had to undergo major> > > surgery to fix metal ball in his shoulder joint and his right arm is> > > not fully functioning although he has full functions of his hand & > > > part function of his arm (as muscles were cut in surgery) and can move> > > the arm left to right but can't raise the arm yet (physio therapy> > > still ongoing).> > >> > > Jupiter MD - have not been able to see great wealth or great good out> > > of Ju yet but not giving up hope as good times will definately some.> > >> > > Ju MD is trying and full ob obstacles for now but some light will come> > > out of Guru's dasa as Guru's is probably making me do sadhana for now.> > >> > > If you have any other questions, kindly do not hesitate to ask.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Amit.> > >> > >> > > , "sunil nair"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > > hare ramakrishna> > > >> > > > dear Amit ji> > > >> > > > u r welcome to the grp . I like the way u try to analyse ur chart ,> > > > but i hav a doubt ,what is this MKS??> > > >> > > > In ur chart sani is in parivarthana with moon ,> > > >> > > > also i lov to hear abt ur present dasa ie jup dasa ,how is it> > working> > > > in marital and professional frnt also if possible u can giv a breif> > > > discussion abt other areas of life like ur brothers ,parents while u> > r> > > > jup dasa was progressing as in its own sub .if u dont mind giv a> > > > breifing for grps learning experience .> > > >> > > > also always try to giv us or any one the avilable birth time ( means> > un> > > > rectified birth time ) unless u 100% feel its wrong ,other wise i> > find> > > > each system follows its own methods in rectification of birth time> > and> > > > other astrologers may go wrong in their reading s .> > > >> > > > so giv birth time as it is recorded by parents or hospitals .> > > >> > > > also u can get a good learning exprnce here also esp u r in safe> > hands (> > > > with shivani ji to guide u )> > > >> > > > regrds sunil nair> > > >> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunilji,

 

Thank you for your posting and reply.

 

From my personal experience, I have personally seen many astrologers

and not all of the are competent.

 

Mostly are capable of answering bare minimum without explaining

properly anything in details and which also leave a person with much

to be desired out of the meeting or chart reading.

 

I am a firm believer in this :

 

You always have choices and I always opt for the first choice of

telling a person what to do and let the person do it before telling

the person how to do !

 

You will be amazed at the results a person brings you back. Never

underestimate a person's curiosity or capability.

 

Dear Sunilji,

 

If you look into my mails, you will find that I am NOT asking or

looking for a reading as that is the last thing I want as one will

never learn that way.

 

I tend to get lost now and then as i am studying 100% online and not

under the proper tutelage of a physical Jyotish present.

 

Even my heading for posting is " Re: Venus & Saturn yuti in Lagna - how

to read / interpret first house ? " and not " please read and interpret

first house with planets in it and planets aspecting it " .

 

Hope you would be kind to guide me because sometimes as a student or a

beginner such as myself, we needs an example to understand and

sometimes the example itself is from the reading of the horoscope.

 

Although I agree with you to a certain extent on your " Ask doubts

after digesting those dictums, then pls come back and ask any

doubts one by one " , I am of the view that I personally need guidance

to those dictums first before I can even start to ask and look for

clarification to my doubts and understanding and thats what i am

trying / asking here.

 

You are once again right in saying that it is the person himself

/herself that has to evolve.

 

There is a saying you can bring a horse to the water but you cannot

force a horse to drink the water !

 

Dear All,

 

I personally am sick and tired of bad interpretations and half cooked

chart readings and that's only one of the reasons I joined this group

to learn (to the best of my ability) whatever is made available to me

directly or indirectly.

 

I am no astrologer by any means but just beginner trying to slowly

grasp one by one issues and topics and chapters. For all I know it may

may take 12-15 years to master by everything by proper and through

education and experience.

 

Dear All,

 

My personal opinion, I am businessman juggling many ordinary and

extraordinary life problems and studying astrology is no easy feat by

any scale. You really need to be serious and persistent and the time

allocation for reading and understanding and then applying the same is

a huge sacrifice.

 

My respect and warmest wishes and highest regards for those who

actually have mastered astrology (to whatever level they presume is

acceptable to them).

 

Regards,

 

Amit Rajaishwar

Kuala Lumpur,

Malaysia.

 

 

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Hare rama krishna

>

> dear Amit ji .

>

> Yes ,shivani ji given u right advise ,as the time Zone is

> correctly advised by her ,so its not birth time rectification .

>

>

>

> Now coming to MKS .

>

>

>

> I know some grp of astrologers promote MKS concept where as i find

them

> using in Post mortem analysis as they fail to identify with other

> indication in chart ,so easy method is find the badaka or Planets in MKS

> or extent it to any extent by possible stretching to various dasas .Even

> go to vargas and use dasa their ,or go to higher vargas and manipulate .

>

> Even i ask them to prove in last so many yrs and no one guru or sisyas

> never come with a right reply .Other wise i am open to study any new

> concepts frm any where .

>

> Now sani dasa let us forget abt other bala and mathematical calculations

> of it for time being strt frm basics ,make ur basics right b4 running to

> the ultimate calculations and prnouncing the results or being fear abt

> it .Also at times we need to go slow or with care with on going dasas

> .Every planet has lot of layers of results in a chart .So chart reading

> as as difficult as permuations and combinations of 9 planets and 12

> houses ,its aspects recvs and giving ,dasas ,gochara and ashtavargas

> and other vargas in chart ,The result is never uniform in similar charts

> .

>

>

>

> Now as far as sat is concerned first of all its natural malefic and

> functional malefic .And read classics for better understanding than

> going to net and down load articles and easy reference s .So its results

> shud b taken with care .

>

> otherwise MKS who does not hav it ??

>

> INdira gandhi has sat in lagna and George bush has sat in Lagna ,i think

> if my memory is correct he is going tru sat Mahadasa .He become twice

> the prez of US in sat dasa .( i hate to discuss unverified celebrity

> charts unless the celibrity himself consulting me ,but using here to

> show the validity of MKS ,every celebrity as 3 0r a dozen BT making its

> rounds in net depending on the astrologers who pushed it .or even some

> net sites .Even some one goes to the extent that saying madam hillari

> consulted me ( even such a claim happened in this grp by a new memebr

> who thought he can take every one for a ride ) ,just now her office was

> after me like this ,and after the tempo is over the public forgets who

> giv wat predictions and then in later yrs the astrologer trumptes only

> his predictions which come true ,This is wat is happening in this era of

> communication and advtment )

>

>

>

> Now if u go tru archives u can find that certain grp of people who

> claims their guru is incarnation Lord SIVA ( and now dattatreya also )

> predicted that hillary will b US prez and its reveald by their human god

> guru and now all gone to underground ,and u can see they will come back

> in full force when every one forget it ,Same is the case of Market

> astrologers ,financial astrologers ,stock market predictions etc .So

> exercsie caution and first learn urself what is said in classics and

> then u go by it ,try it ,try it on 100s of charts ,

>

> Ask doubts after digesting those dictums ,then pls come back and ask any

> doubts one by one

>

> This grp we giv guidance only and never a reading .

>

>

>

> U urself has to evolve ,

>

> Nethi nethi ( not this, not this) find out urself

>

>

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

, " Amit Rajaishwar "

> <rajshwar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sunilji,

> >

> > Thank you for the posting and reply.

> >

> > My birth time is actually from my birth certificate from hospital

> records.

> >

> > The timings are correct based on my observations of my life

> > experiences when referred to dasa's and other references.

> >

> > When I said Shevaniji rectified it, I meant that my birth place i.e.

> > Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia - current standard is 8 hrs East of GMT but

> > prior to 1986 it was 7.30 hrs East of GMT.

> >

> > I was born in 1976 and since there was some adjustment in timing by

> > the Govt of Malaysia after 1986, as such the actual time is 7.30 hrs

> > East of GMT.

> >

> > Hope the above suffices for now.

> >

> > I have not been able to see how MKS has worked but I know that my

> > Shani Bhagwan is suppose to be weak when it comes to Shadbala. Can you

> > help or guide or advice on this matter as I am still looking at it and

> > have not found answers yets.

> >

> > KVS = Kalyana Varmas Saravali. Sorry i used short forms.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Amit

> >

> >

> > , " sunil nair "

> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Hare rama krishna .

> > >

> > > dear Amit ji

> > >

> > > Thanks for the feed back .I realy smelled some thing fishy in jup

> > > dasa ,but absence of authenticity of birth time cant conclude it as

> > > vargas it may affect too .

> > >

> > > i asked u to tell abt wat was authenticity of ur BT ,is it was

> hospital

> > > records??or mom was giving various timing ,some one who rectified it

> was

> > > rectified in 2 hrs or 6 hrs window time frame u hav given etc ,as

> > > various ppl in this grp follows diffrnt systems like KP ,KAS,vedic

> > > astrology ,jaimini etc ,so i wanted to ease their job of researching

> .As

> > > this grp is established mainly for reserching the old sastras and

> rishi

> > > horas than just learning in parrot way and like al quaida style

> adopting

> > > it and clinging to it what ever may happen we wont change our

> attitude .

> > >

> > > Now abt mararana karaka stana ,i know abt it ,but can u tell me how

> it

> > > has worked in ur chart .

> > >

> > > parivarthan means exchange ,u can see moon and sat is exchnging

> signs .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Also what is this KVS ,what is expansion of it

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > regrds sunil nair

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Amit Rajaishwar "

> > > <rajshwar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sunilji,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for the posting and the welcome note.

> > > >

> > > > My birth time that was posted was rectified by Sheevaniji and as

> such,

> > > > I beleive that no further rectification is required.

> > > >

> > > > MKS = Marana Karaka Sthana

> > > >

> > > > Parivartana - does it mean enemity ?

> > > >

> > > > Just for further input / reference : I have Ju MD and Ju AD as

> > > > following : Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

> > > >

> > > > Jup MD: 2007-05-04 - 2023-05-04

> > > > Jup AD: 2007-05-04 - 2009-06-22

> > > >

> > > > Pratyantardasas in this AD:

> > > >

> > > > Jup: 2007-05-04 - 2007-08-18

> > > > Sat: 2007-08-18 - 2007-12-19

> > > > Merc: 2007-12-19 - 2008-04-05

> > > > Ket: 2008-04-05 - 2008-05-21

> > > > Ven: 2008-05-21 - 2008-10-01

> > > > Sun: 2008-10-01 - 2008-11-09

> > > > Moon: 2008-11-09 - 2009-01-11

> > > > Mars: 2009-01-11 - 2009-02-24

> > > > Rah: 2009-02-24 - 2009-06-22

> > > >

> > > > I am going through MD Ju + AD Ju + PD Ve till 1.10.2008.

> > > >

> > > > When my Jupiter MD started in 4.5.2007, shortly after it started,

> my

> > > > land matter also got activated after a slumber / hybernation of 7

> > > > years i.e. after no movement / progress in the land I purchased.

> It

> > > > got activated exactly on 7.8.2008.

> > > >

> > > > I had MD Ju + AD Ju + PD Ju + Sd Ra + PAD Sat as following when i

> got

> > > > news that Malaysian Govt is acquiring the land as following :

> > > >

> > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

> > > > Jup MD: 2007-05-04 (0:02:12) - 2023-05-04 (2:26:55)

> > > > Jup AD: 2007-05-04 (0:02:12) - 2009-06-22 (11:58:21)

> > > > Jup PD: 2007-05-04 (0:02:12) - 2007-08-18 (22:15:57)

> > > > Rah SD: 2007-08-02 (21:54:18) - 2007-08-18 (22:15:57)

> > > > Sat PAD: 2007-08-07 (11:02:21) - 2007-08-09 (23:56:36)

> > > >

> > > > Value of land has increased from i.e. $1.00 to $6.90 over the last

> 7 /

> > > > 8 years and payee/acquirer is not an individual/corporation but

> the

> > > > Government so no risk of non-payment or default.

> > > >

> > > > Wanted to buy the whole land from multiple co-owners (approx 80++

> > > > co-owners) in year 2000 but managed to conclude from only approx

> 40

> > > > owners. Ended up having aprox 60% beneficial share in land.

> > > >

> > > > When i say beneficial means we only paid 10% of $1.00 and were

> suppose

> > > > to pay the balance 90% of $1.00 was suppose to be paid before

> transfer

> > > > / acquisition.

> > > >

> > > > When acquisition notice came, we paid the balance 90% but owners

> did

> > > > not accept payment as value had increased multifold. Legally, we

> paid,

> > > > if they accept or not we have concluded the transaction and they

> have

> > > > breached / refused to complete the transaction.

> > > >

> > > > Land office gave an award of $6.90 and now the matter is stuck

> > > > (probably going to Court) as Land Office awared part compensation

> to

> > > > us (we got 10% of $1.00) and part to land owners (they got $6.80).

> > > >

> > > > We have collected our award of 10% of $1.00 and have filed

> objections

> > > > to the award given by the land office to the so called " owner " and

> > > > they can't get the money from the land offcie until a settlement

> is

> > > > reached with us or unless a court order granted as to who is

> entitled

> > > > to the compensation.

> > > >

> > > > We couldn't tranfer land unto our name in time as the owners were

> > > > suppose to get a fresh title (the old one was lost) and they never

> > > > applied for a new title so the fault also is due to them.

> > > >

> > > > The above is my biggest challange and solution in life when it

> comes

> > > > to profession. On another note I am into plastic recycling and

> thats

> > > > not doing so great for now as everything is revolving around this

> > > > property matter.

> > > >

> > > > I only have younger 1 brother and he is currently travelling all

> pover

> > > > the world right now on so called " learning " vacation as an

> ambassador

> > > > of the Rotary Club of Malaysia.

> > > >

> > > > On my marraige front, have a wonderful and beautiful wife who gave

> me

> > > > 3 beautiful kids. Eldest is Daughter and rest 2 sons.

> > > >

> > > > I am temperement with extremes (can be as peacefull as no tides at

> sea

> > > > and can be a tsunami also) so not difficult and yet not easy to be

> > > > with me.

> > > >

> > > > Dad met with a serious accident on 25.2.2008 and had to undergo

> major

> > > > surgery to fix metal ball in his shoulder joint and his right arm

> is

> > > > not fully functioning although he has full functions of his hand &

> > > > part function of his arm (as muscles were cut in surgery) and can

> move

> > > > the arm left to right but can't raise the arm yet (physio therapy

> > > > still ongoing).

> > > >

> > > > Jupiter MD - have not been able to see great wealth or great good

> out

> > > > of Ju yet but not giving up hope as good times will definately

> some.

> > > >

> > > > Ju MD is trying and full ob obstacles for now but some light will

> come

> > > > out of Guru's dasa as Guru's is probably making me do sadhana for

> now.

> > > >

> > > > If you have any other questions, kindly do not hesitate to ask.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Amit.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " sunil nair "

> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > hare ramakrishna

> > > > >

> > > > > dear Amit ji

> > > > >

> > > > > u r welcome to the grp . I like the way u try to analyse ur

> chart ,

> > > > > but i hav a doubt ,what is this MKS??

> > > > >

> > > > > In ur chart sani is in parivarthana with moon ,

> > > > >

> > > > > also i lov to hear abt ur present dasa ie jup dasa ,how is it

> > > working

> > > > > in marital and professional frnt also if possible u can giv a

> breif

> > > > > discussion abt other areas of life like ur brothers ,parents

> while u

> > > r

> > > > > jup dasa was progressing as in its own sub .if u dont mind giv a

> > > > > breifing for grps learning experience .

> > > > >

> > > > > also always try to giv us or any one the avilable birth time (

> means

> > > un

> > > > > rectified birth time ) unless u 100% feel its wrong ,other wise

> i

> > > find

> > > > > each system follows its own methods in rectification of birth

> time

> > > and

> > > > > other astrologers may go wrong in their reading s .

> > > > >

> > > > > so giv birth time as it is recorded by parents or hospitals .

> > > > >

> > > > > also u can get a good learning exprnce here also esp u r in safe

> > > hands (

> > > > > with shivani ji to guide u )

> > > > >

> > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > >

> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > >

> >

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