Guest guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Dear Rameshji, //while during mensus the body is actually cleansing // Exactly what I said. If they go out during such times, specially after sunset, they are more vulnerable to getting possessed, attacks by spirits, or getting affected by black magic done by jealous relatives. So if the old generations asked the ladies to stay inside, they knew what they were talking about. I have other reasons too, but would not put forth here, as not interested in prolonging this thread. regards, Bhaskar. , ramesh tendulkar <ram_t_1968 wrote:>> Hi Neelamji> > Very nice explanation. Astrologically they say Mars is in transit, while the transit into Saturn gives life/pregnancy or loss.> > As a benefited member of getting Dheeksha from Amma herself directly/personally, I have heard from many folks connected to her, that from young age, she did not take rest for any days at all. She stay away from hugging, only when she is sick in the human body.> > I have asked Amma why women are kept away during mensus time and her answer was, very logical. Penance make women weak and while during mensus the body is actually cleansing the uterus, so needs more oxygen, which will not be available is the crowded closed temples. Also those days, the tradition was not to have toilets inside temple, in case of mishaps to cleanup, since there were no sanitary pad items.> > There is one village closer to Yelagiri hills near Salem, where I have seen tribes having a "Muttu" room, where women are left alone during their periods.> > While Banguru Swamy Adigalar at Mel Maruvathur, who has been blessed by Ambal, allows anybody to do Puja etc. Thats why RED is so spread there. Well you are expected to take bath atleast before you go to Moola Sthan. > > I have visited Guruvayoor, Udupi and Trichendur and found that men as expected to remove shirt to enter temple. Out of curiosity, I have asked many elders on this tradition. (1) to see the sacred thread, that allows priority seva and need be they can be of some help in Puja (2) any visible skin disease that might be spread, which would make people stay away from crowd.> > Even my mother at Calcutta, did not go near Puja area but cooked for me and elder sister, till sister was capable of handling things at kitchen. She used to eat well and sleep. Once my sister entered medical college, I could see the traditions vanish a bit.> > Whenever I left home for college/work, the whole family used to see me off at Railway station. At times, I used to see my mother or sister missing, and I understood that they are avoiding public space and crowd for obvious reasons. (exclusion, I think, when I first went abroad for work, they came to Airport)> > > Amma Saranam!> > Regards> Ramesh> > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07 > Wednesday, 16 July, 2008 2:03:31 PM> Re: Re:Chanakya Quotes/Ashoka/Buddha> > > Dear Prashant Kumar ji, > Thank you for a nice post. I agree that women> may be more vulnerable during the period, but my point was that they should not> be treated as untouchables and kept in seclusion as suggested by our distorted> beliefs. My objection is to women not entering temples at this time. If you> agree to treat it some sort of sickness, that emanates germs, then all sick> people should be barred. > What might've started as a means of caring> and showing concern, got distorted over the years. > Regarding your statement: > //TULSI IS MOST SENSITIVE [won't grow> in dirty environments] AND most SACRED PLANT FOR Hindus AND IS USED FOR MANY> AILMENTS AS A CURE. respiratory and anti-septic values like turmeric//. > A agree completely.> But I would not believe that:> //a tulsi plant when touched by a women> during menses withers away. TAKE THE TEST plz...!//> Tulsi is Radha herself… I do not believe what> you say has any truth in it. That way there is a plant called Mimosa Pudica (chhui mui)> which shrinks when touched. Some plants are just sensitive, means they are> sensitive… not to a particular person. > I have a tulsi plant in my house for the> past 10-12 years and I water it everyday (means everyday) and have taken her blanket> permission to take her leaves for tea, etc. I do not observe any holidays for> these things. The plant is hale and hearty. > coming to your other statement:> > //when a doctor found a few week back> operated person suddenly suffering sudden changes in health when certain nurses> came and nursed him, one particular day he saw it high and just out of> curiosity asked the nurse if she was in periods when she said YES he asked her> to go on leave and replaced her with a non periods nurse the patient> recovered with no fresh reversals and was sent home//> Even people having AIDS would be spared from such obnoxious thoughts. I don't know who did this research and what> is the authenticity with one case with personal observation. Please quote original source. This is absolute rubbish and disgusting. Will you not allow your wife to nurse you back to health if she is in her menstrual course? If its like this I'll have to start a rehabilitation campaign for menstrual women along with my campaign for HIV +ve, cured leprosy and other patients.> > I would request you to stop believing in> and propagating these myths. They have no scientific basis, nor seen to happen> with any consistency.> Sorry Sreeramji, I had quit but some of the> points gave me indigestion again… I know this debate is unending so I withdraw> now.> RegardsNeelam > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to http://in..promos./groups/citygroups/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Correct! My wife as a HR professional handles the queries of the BPO ladies, who bunk work during the night shift regularly! Some connection of course! This might have the same superstition of carrying nails/iron key, with non veg food? Prevalent in Maharastra at least. Didnt see in Calcutta where I was born and grew up. My dad used to pack fish curry, almost everyday all along, even if it sent by maid. But I was surprised one Babu Khan in Ahmedabad, runs a small joint closer to IIM, when he packed fish curry for us to take back to hostel, asked us to take carefully!!? (understood) Well Amma was sure about, food cooked with good intent to service you will not spoil! Whatever it might be. She even answered on the creation, of evolution from monkeys. (not sure myself, how a drop of blood can become wine!) God creates something, gives knowledge and allows it to grow.. (Something like Bruce Almighty movie) I am told when she visited Kangeyam, in Tamilnadu for a discourse those young days 70s, she had delayed the trip by 2 days, as she was stopped all the way along by devotees, and the anna dhana that was done, had food cooked 2 days before, without spoiling! (could not authenticate this story though). Noted for next visit, when she returns back to India and if I get an audience. Amma Saranam! Regards Ramesh Bhaskar <rajiventerprises Wednesday, 16 July, 2008 7:55:12 PM Re:Women & Temple and Astrology Dear Rameshji, //while during mensus the body is actually cleansing // Exactly what I said. If they go out during such times, specially after sunset, they are more vulnerable to getting possessed, attacks by spirits, or getting affected by black magic done by jealous relatives. So if the old generations asked the ladies to stay inside, they knew what they were talking about. I have other reasons too, but would not put forth here, as not interested in prolonging this thread. regards, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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