V Dasa - a review

July 12, 2008

Dear Shri Pathiji,

Namaste.

The timing part from the astrologerd side,

comes later to identifying any event.How many

astrologers are able to identify an event in

the first case ? Not many.

Astrologers have also been able to time the

events. We cannot say that all have not been

able to time the events.

I am a most ordinary student, but about 3 weeks

ago timed the timings in the morning, about

when my father would arrive in the evening from

office, and it was perfect to the minute.

And being in our own business with no

fixed timings of closing Office,

and travelling about 15 kilomteres in Bombay from

Marine Lines to Worli a distance of 45 minutes,

it was a deal.

This is the power of astrology,

though not to be wasted on trifles as such,

nevertheless.

We do have good predictions of timing events

on the Internet jyotish forums, and the

replies can be identified as genuine in

few cases, which means timings is still

possible in todays era.

I am dependent personally on some softwares,

which have calculated dashas on 360 days format,

and it works with me, as i use other methods

for timing events to the minute or day, or week

or month, and not the Vimsottari. i use

the vimsottari only for a broad band view of

the effects as seen in the Natal Chart,

which i confirm from a Prashna Chart, where

the calculations for the timing, i again use

the ruling Planets in conformity with the

Prashna Chart dashas.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, venkatachala pathi

<pathiav wrote:

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> Vimshottari Desa System - a review.`Pathi'

> Maharishi Parashara has assigned a certain number of years to each

Planet and also the order in which major periods will follow each

other. This is the basis in which Vimshothri Desa system is in

operation to calculate timing of events.

> He, also had marked these under each constellation in succession

and rotation familiar to all astrology students and practitioners.

Each constellation is owned by a Planet, and each Planet owns three

constellations. A constellation extends over 13°20' which represents

the full number of years assigned to the constellation.

> It is worked out that the balance of the major-Desa- period of the

owner of the constellation, at the time of birth, accounting the

phase of the Moon passed within the constellation.

> Illustration: Let me take that the Moon is in 61°31'33 " in Nirayana

position, then it is positioned in Gemini 1° 31'33 " in Mrigasheera 3.

Portion of the ruler of this planet is Mars to rule for 7 years. We

find that the Moon in this star zone had passed 8° 11`33 " , of the

total space of the Constellation of 13°20'. This will leave a period

in Mars Desa to go as 2 Years 7 Months 1 Day 21 Hrs 58Mts.9 Sec.

which is equal to 930 days (apxly) in the total period of Mars (7

years) of 2,520 days.

> Here I had taken an year to have 30 days for every month for 12

months which will be equal to 360 for each year under Vimshottari

Desa calculations. This will be for a period of Mars, 2520 Days. The

actual period of an year is 365 days and 6 hours.

> Then the period of 5 days and 6 hours for every year is not

included in the Desa period while working the period of Mars Desa.

> Similarly, the major-period of the Sun, will be 5 years 334 days,

The Moon 9years 313 days, Mars : 6years and 328 days: Rahu: 17 years

271 days; Jupiter: 15 years 281 days; Saturn 18 years and 265 days;

Mercury : 16 years 276 days; Ketu 6 years 328 days; Venus 19 years

260 days.

> In the longest period of Venus Desa, there is a difference of about

106 days (that is 3 months and 16 days)

> I would like to invite all to probe into this to find an

explanation, as this could be one of the causes for Astrologers could

not time the event accurately.

> Pathi

>

> A.V.Pathi,

>

July 16, 2008

Sub: Ref : Timing of Event

16.07.2008

It is indeed a very probing question and must have struck hard in the minds of the Astrologers. Besides several other reasons which usually become the cause of inaccurate timing of an event by an Astrologer, the cause mentioned by Pathi Sir has great substance.

Having said this I would like to share with all my point of view with that the Vishomatri Mahadasha (MD) period is not necessarily the decisive factor for timing of an event. The MD of a person conveys the effect from an overall perspective.

It is the Antardasha (AD) period which usually is responsible for timing of an event.

Now obviously the AD period will also change as per the MD. And the AD period is comparatively a much shorter period compared to MD period and therefore the discrepancy in calculation of the MD period gets divided when we calculate the AD period.

The 106 days difference in the evaluation of the MD of Venus gets shortened and divided in the 9 AD’s. Having said this, the AD’s are again calculated as per the MD period of the planets (AD of Mercury in MD of Venus will be multiplication of the MD period of Venus by MD period of Mercury and then divided by 10 to give the approximate result of the period in months).

So when MD period gets reduced it changes the AD period also. When we evaluate the AD’s of all the 9 planets the difference in the period of MD’s vastly changes the dates of the AD’s (start date and completion date of the AD period).

And the event is timed mostly based on the AD’s.

Therefore I am also of the view that though the timing of the event would be affected due to the difference obtained in the MD period; the difference would result in total change of dates of the AD period. That would affect the correct timing.

It must be noted here that some of the planets are said to start giving their effects before their AD starts (you may all it as the cusp period). Some planets give effect at a later stage, I have experienced this while analyzing many horoscope.

So the cusp period may be taking care of the differences (change) in timing of the AD’s. And due to this on few occasions the timing might be perfect and in some case it might vary as per the length of the appropriate AD period.

As far as incorrect timing of an event is concerned, the most important reason I attribute to this is that most of the time we tend to mix the timing of the event with the Quality of the event. These two (Timing & Quality) are vastly different and if we focus on the quality of the event while timing it, then generally speaking we would go wrong.

Nikhlesh Mathur

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 venkatachala pathi wrote :

>

>Vimshottari Desa System - a review.‘Pathi’

>Maharishi Parashara has assigned a certain number of years to each Planet and also the order in which major periods will follow each other. This is the basis in which Vimshothri Desa system is in operation to calculate timing of events.

>He, also had marked these under each constellation in succession and rotation familiar to all astrology students and practitioners. Each constellation is owned by a Planet, and each Planet owns three constellations. A constellation extends over 13°20’ which represents the full number of years assigned to the constellation.

>It is worked out that the balance of the major-Desa- period of the owner of the constellation, at the time of birth, accounting the phase of the Moon passed within the constellation.

>Illustration: Let me take that the Moon is in 61°31’33” in Nirayana position, then it is positioned in Gemini 1° 31’33” in Mrigasheera 3. Portion of the ruler of this planet is Mars to rule for 7 years. We find that the Moon in this star zone had passed 8° 11‘33“, of the total space of the Constellation of 13°20’. This will leave a period in Mars Desa to go as 2 Years 7 Months 1 Day 21 Hrs 58Mts.9 Sec. which is equal to 930 days (apxly) in the total period of Mars (7 years) of 2,520 days.

>Here I had taken an year to have 30 days for every month for 12 months which will be equal to 360 for each year under Vimshottari Desa calculations. This will be for a period of Mars, 2520 Days. The actual period of an year is 365 days and 6 hours.

>Then the period of 5 days and 6 hours for every year is not included in the Desa period while working the period of Mars Desa.

>Similarly, the major-period of the Sun, will be 5 years 334 days, The Moon 9years 313 days, Mars : 6years and 328 days: Rahu: 17 years 271 days; Jupiter: 15 years 281 days; Saturn 18 years and 265 days; Mercury : 16 years 276 days; Ketu 6 years 328 days; Venus 19 years 260 days.

>In the longest period of Venus Desa, there is a difference of about 106 days (that is 3 months and 16 days)

>I would like to invite all to probe into this to find an explanation, as this could be one of the causes for Astrologers could not time the event accurately.

>Pathi

>

> A.V.Pathi,

>

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