Guest guest Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Dear Krishna ji, 'What matters is that that individual has completed his lifespan based on his karma and may be destined to die a violent death. For me that is as per karma theory and one's prarabdha"... True....to a certain extent. Usually mass destruction/death comes as an unnatural death. Most of the time it gives lot of pain too...to the victim. So may be that all the victims had to go through the same fate, due to similar or combined wrongful acts done in past births. Anyway everything does not have to be the result of 'karma'. But don't ask my why...it is based on Buddha's words. This is not astrology...Hence I would rather not talk on this subject. blessings Renu , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:>> Dear Renu ji,> > Why do you assume that someone involved in a mass murder only will end up as one of the victims of mass death? Death is death, whether it comes to some one alone or as a part of a bigger tragedy. What matters is that that individual has completed his lifespan based on his karma and may be destined to die a violent death. For me that is as per karma theory and one's prarabdha. One's prarabdha only decides his/her span of life and nothing else. Otherwise, it is difficult explain why someone who is not destined to die based on his/her own karma died due to some external cause. How do you explain this without violating the karma theory?> > "...it is not possible for all the victims in a mass destruction, to have the similar death inflicting combinations in their horoscopes at the same time."> > Why do think it is not possible? How do we eliminate this possibility? Based on what?> > I am open to learning.> > Regards,> Krishna> > --- On Sun, 27/7/08, renunw renunw wrote:> renunw renunw Re: God's Missiles> > Sunday, 27 July, 2008, 4:02 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishna ji,> > > > But how can you explain the karma of thousands or more, in cases of> > mass destruction. ..to be similar? Unless of course all of them> > belonged to one regiment in an army or to one paricular group of> > people, who engaged themselves in mass murder, due to war or some> > other reason in one of their past births?> > > > How can astrology explain this? I don't think it can. As Pandit> > Arjun ji said, it is not possible for all the victims in a mass> > destruction, to have the similar death inflicting combinations in> > their horoscopes at the same time.> > > > Cheiro's narration is interesting. .....thnaks.> > > > blessings> > > > Renu> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Krishnamurthy> > Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Renu ji,> > >> > > My understanding (or belief) is slightly different.> > >> > > Whatever may be the reason for death, be it an act of God/Nature> > or an act of terrorist, it is only a nimitta. Death comes based on> > our prarabdha. I guess this is fully in line with the karma theory.> > >> > > Famous palmist Cheiro has narrated an interesting incident which> > is appropriate to quote in the current context. Once he was> > traveling in a train. When his co-passengers identified him they> > were keen on getting their hand read by him. When he started reading> > the hands of them, he started noticing one clear trend that most of> > them would be losing their life soon. He was kind of taken aback by> > this observation, felt very uncomfortable continuing his journey and> > got out of the train in the next station. Later in the day, he came> > to know that the train he got out of, met with an accident soon> > after and a lot of people died in that accident.> > >> > > I do believe this is a true story, read long ago and I don't have> > any reference to point to.> > >> > > Regards,> > > Krishna> > >> > > --- On Sat, 26/7/08, renunw renunw@ wrote:> > > renunw renunw@> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: God's Missiles> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Saturday, 26 July, 2008, 11:12 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji,> > >  "it means that it is god who killed thousands> > > of innocent school children while singing national song on republic> > > day through earthquake. it is the same god who swallowed lakhs of> > > families in floods and tsunamis. from this, it infers that gods> > > indeed have weapons of mass destruction in the form of earthquakes,> > > floods and tsunamis. similarly evils or terrorists too have weapons> > > of mass destruction and they too inflict similar casualties akin to> > > these acts of god, but they have their own different ways."> > > How true!Â> > > I have always wondered why god would punish the innocent.... .yet> > no answer to that. One may say it is 'karama'.... .but in mass> > destructions like tsunamis etc. ...is everyone punished for the same> > wrongful action in a past birth?> > > blessings> > > Renu> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> > com, "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > dear friends> > > >> > > > the indian government through its hundred percent owned insurance> > > > companies defined acts of god wherein it mentions that floods,> > > > earthquakes and other largescale natural calamities beyond human> > > > control as acts of god. it means that it is god who killed> > thousands> > > > of innocent school children while singing national song on> > republic> > > > day through earthquake. it is the same god who swallowed lakhs of> > > > families in floods and tsunamis. from this, it infers that gods> > > > indeed have weapons of mass destruction in the form of> > earthquakes,> > > > floods and tsunamis. similarly evils or terrorists too have> > weapons> > > > of mass destruction and they too inflict similar casualties akin> > to> > > > these acts of god, but they have their own different ways.> > > >> > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > > pandit arjun> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite> > group at http://in.promos. / groups/> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to http://in.promos./groups/citygroups/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Dear Pathi ji, Thanks for your mail. There is a solid relationship between the accident and the 'karma' of those victims. I believe that we are born to one family as a result of some related karma in the past. But here in this thread I was talking about collective deaths, where thousands become victims. Can the reason be 'karma' here too or gods animosity towards those people? ....I wonder.... blessings Renu , venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: > > Dear Renu ji and Krishna ji, > > Your question on mass (group) deaths hung on me for a long time while at my collections of astrological analysis, - I believe 40 years before when 4 people died in a car accident. The significators in their horoscopes pointed that for one (the daughter) of them had that she will have hospitalization, with the identification of 12th House inferences as we do in length. The mother had indications in her horoscope for suffering of sickness through 8th and 6th house reading in her Kundali. The Driver had indication that he will have ill health and will be confined to have surgery. The fourth one, the father, had problems to have head injuries due to Mars influence under similar identified astrological rules. But all the four died in the accident spot at the same time. > > Then my guru (Late Brahmashri Kalladaikurichi Krishna Josier) told me that the cause of these planetary effects became 'acute' to end their lives through 'inter magnetic effects'. He explained in detail, how in an office a person is not liked by a boss while every other person in his office likes him and vice versa. He also said that this inter-magnetic effect of the polarization of planets is the rule on relations between partners in marriage, as well as relationship between the other relatives like in-laws' to a girl or boy. > > I invite comments from more learned astrologers on their analysis of this 'reasoning'. > > Thank You. > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > renunw <renunw > > Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:32:24 AM > Re: God's Missiles > > > Dear Krishna ji, > > But how can you explain the karma of thousands or more, in cases of > mass destruction. ..to be similar? Unless of course all of them > belonged to one regiment in an army or to one paricular group of > people, who engaged themselves in mass murder, due to war or some > other reason in one of their past births? > > How can astrology explain this? I don't think it can. As Pandit > Arjun ji said, it is not possible for all the victims in a mass > destruction, to have the similar death inflicting combinations in > their horoscopes at the same time. > > Cheiro's narration is interesting. .....thnaks. > > blessings > > Renu > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Krishnamurthy > Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Renu ji, > > > > My understanding (or belief) is slightly different. > > > > Whatever may be the reason for death, be it an act of God/Nature > or an act of terrorist, it is only a nimitta. Death comes based on > our prarabdha. I guess this is fully in line with the karma theory. > > > > Famous palmist Cheiro has narrated an interesting incident which > is appropriate to quote in the current context. Once he was > traveling in a train. When his co-passengers identified him they > were keen on getting their hand read by him. When he started reading > the hands of them, he started noticing one clear trend that most of > them would be losing their life soon. He was kind of taken aback by > this observation, felt very uncomfortable continuing his journey and > got out of the train in the next station. Later in the day, he came > to know that the train he got out of, met with an accident soon > after and a lot of people died in that accident. > > > > I do believe this is a true story, read long ago and I don't have > any reference to point to. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > --- On Sat, 26/7/08, renunw <renunw@> wrote: > > renunw <renunw@> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: God's Missiles > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Saturday, 26 July, 2008, 11:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji, > >  " it means that it is god who killed thousands > > of innocent school children while singing national song on republic > > day through earthquake. it is the same god who swallowed lakhs of > > families in floods and tsunamis. from this, it infers that gods > > indeed have weapons of mass destruction in the form of earthquakes, > > floods and tsunamis. similarly evils or terrorists too have weapons > > of mass destruction and they too inflict similar casualties akin to > > these acts of god, but they have their own different ways. " > > How true! > > I have always wondered why god would punish the innocent.... .yet > no answer to that. One may say it is 'karama'.... .but in mass > destructions like tsunamis etc. ...is everyone punished for the same > wrongful action in a past birth? > > blessings > > Renu > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > com, " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > the indian government through its hundred percent owned insurance > > > companies defined acts of god wherein it mentions that floods, > > > earthquakes and other largescale natural calamities beyond human > > > control as acts of god. it means that it is god who killed > thousands > > > of innocent school children while singing national song on > republic > > > day through earthquake. it is the same god who swallowed lakhs of > > > families in floods and tsunamis. from this, it infers that gods > > > indeed have weapons of mass destruction in the form of > earthquakes, > > > floods and tsunamis. similarly evils or terrorists too have > weapons > > > of mass destruction and they too inflict similar casualties akin > to > > > these acts of god, but they have their own different ways. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite > group at http://in.promos. / groups/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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