Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 No updates on my post. , Ramesh <ram_t_1968 wrote: > > > > There are 7 splits in the Shani Dasa, which have a specific meaning for each split phase (dont remember the name). This is in a ancient verse I am told. I have never seen it but heard its gist. ( I have to go to Calcutta to search for that. If someone sponsors a roundtrip, I am willing to do that :-) ) > > Here is what Mr LART says, my grandpa's psuedonym - Laxman Arya Rathan Tendulkar (forcing Arya in the bottom most lower caste by my great grandpa). BTW, many English guys and Indian Kings have accepted his finding as he has told, but you cannot find a Dalit's finding anywhere in the so called higher caste knowledge. > > Also these seven phases remind of one a sura, with seven notes. sa-re-ga-ma-pa-tha-ne. > > The first and last phases, are three quarters of the year. > The second third fifth and sixth are 2 and a half years each. > The real 7 and a half is the middle path of ones own Shani dasa. (mis-interpreted as Mr LART says, based on transit) > > There are some explanations, of planets and it influence in each phase. One example in presence of Shani in 8th for property, and 11th for negating losses. 12th would force a person to live away from family or strive in famine. > > There are some exclusions, that I havent come across. > > So why dont you explain more on Sani Sade Sati? (none of the discussions what have come across other than the question's originator, to whom my DOB details was intended, has some special meaning in it, other than questions asked. so fast!). No value adds till now. (Hoping to see something by tomorrow morning) > > Events are very important as KP system suggests to understand, even though there is no connection to this Sade Sathi biz. Hence I posted them. Cool isnt it? > > I have heard from a traditional vedic astrologer 2 minutes ago, saying that, now with too many systems, people have to stick to one, that convinces them. > > > I rest my case here on Shani Sadhe Sathi. (enough of 2 hours of typing) > > Amma Saranam! > > Regards > Ramesh > > > > > sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 > > Monday, 28 July, 2008 7:24:36 PM > Re:Shani Sadesathi_Mr. Ramesh > > > Dear Mr. Ramesh, > In your original posting, though there is good deal of event's account,.... ..but NO mention of your Grandpa's theory on Sade Sathi.....would you request to write on those lines..... > With regards, > Sreeram_Srinivas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 HUMILITY - THE CREST JEWEL OF TRUE LEARNING The ancient Gurukula system of education in India was so well-planned and organised that by the time a pupil completed his education, he would have developed all the good qualities and virtued which would enable him to become a true citizen of the country. One of the most important traits which he acquired during his tutelage was a sense of humility - a trait which was considered the crest jewel of true education by the ancient Indians. Bhartruhari, the famous sanskrit poet of the 7th century A.D., therefore said that a man without such an education(which combined humility) was a brute - The principal goal of education, according to Sanatana Dharma, is to realise the truth of God. With a view to assisting a person to realise this, the Gurukula system of education laid stress both on devotion (Bhakti) as well as humility (Vinaya). Learning started when one was quite young - as well as five years old - and teacher (Guru) taught the students without charging any fees (unlike the modern days). As the teacher's main occupation and concern was teaching, he was not supposed to waste his time in search of his daily food. On the other hand. pupil would go arround collecting food from household both for himself as well as for the teacher's family calling out at each house ( Bhavati Bhilksham Dehi) or May you give me some alms - the request being made to the lady of the house. This kind of life, begging for food, induced a sense of humility in the student even at an impressionable age. It is the spirit that lies behind the Mother - Bhiksha (Matri - Bhiksha) ceremony in the Upanayanam Samskara when the Brahmachari seeks food from the mothers by uttering "Bhavati Bhiksham Dehi" thrice. From times immemorial all the great philosophers, poets, reformers and religious teachers of the land have always exhibited a deep sense of humility. The great Sankara Bhagavatpada, considered by many as a Divine incarnation, set the trend of humility in all his works. Even though he out-shone his Guru, Govinda Bhagavatpada, in learning as well as in achievement, he refers to himself in all his works as only the discipline of Govinda Bhagavatpada (alluding that his greatness was not his own, but results of the grace of his Guru), when he concluded his works with the following words : Soundaryalahari is one of the greatest compositions of Sri Sankaracharya which celebrates the beauty ineffable of the Supreme Mother. At the end of Soundaryalahari, in the hundredth Sloka, Sri Sankaracharya makes a confession which is extra-ordinary in its humility. I have only offered this Stotra with the gift of your own words - you are the mother of words. This is similar to waving the light of camphor to the all-bright Sun, offering "Arghya" to the moon from the water oozing out of the Moon-stone. Kalidasa, recknoned as one of the fore-most poets in world literature, was no less humble. His sense of humility was amply reflected in the opening verses of his epic poem Raghuvamsam when he says - Where is the race sprung from the Sun ? And where is my poor intellectual equipment? Me thinks from sheer folly I am bent upon crossing the ocean, though difficult to do so, by the help of a small boat. Incompetant as I am, I should make myself the butt of ridicule were I to covet the fame of a poet, like a dwarf (who could be laughed at) greedily stretching his hand to pluck a fruit that can be reached only by a tall man. Sanatana Dharma always believes that whenever someone accomplishes a meritorious task in any field whatsoever, recognition is bound to come to him, sooner or later, without his boasting about it. This fact is particularly emphasised in the Mahanarayana Upanishad when it declares- Just as the fragrance of a tree fully covered with flowers is wafted by the wind even from a distant place, so too, the fragrance of meritorious deeds - the good name that occurs from them - spreads to a great distance, even without the doer proclaiming it himself. No wonder, one of Kautilya's aphorisms (Chankya Sutra) says : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Dear Shri Nairji, Please put more of these when you are able to. These articles teach us so many matters which we know but tend to forget through passage of time. thanks, Bhaskar. , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > HUMILITY - THE CREST JEWEL OF TRUE LEARNING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Dear Sunil ji, Thanks...that was a 'piece of advice'. A Chinese proverb comes into my mind... " Think of your own sins the first part of the night while you are awake, and of the sins of others the second part of the night while you are alseep. " blessings Renu , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > HUMILITY - THE CREST JEWEL OF TRUE LEARNING The ancient Gurukula > system of education in India was so well-planned and organised that by > the time a pupil completed his education, he would have developed all > the good qualities and virtued which would enable him to become a true > citizen of the country. One of the most important traits which he > acquired during his tutelage was a sense of humility - a trait which was > considered the crest jewel of true education by the ancient Indians. > Bhartruhari, the famous sanskrit poet of the 7th century A.D., therefore > said that a man without such an education(which combined humility) was a > brute - [img1.gif (2830 bytes)] The principal goal of education, > according to Sanatana Dharma, is to realise the truth of God. With a > view to assisting a person to realise this, the Gurukula system of > education laid stress both on devotion (Bhakti) as well as humility > (Vinaya). Learning started when one was quite young - as well as five > years old - and teacher (Guru) taught the students without charging any > fees (unlike the modern days). As the teacher's main occupation and > concern was teaching, he was not supposed to waste his time in search of > his daily food. On the other hand. pupil would go arround collecting > food from household both for himself as well as for the teacher's family > calling out at each house ( Bhavati Bhilksham Dehi) or May you give me > some alms - the request being made to the lady of the house. This kind > of life, begging for food, induced a sense of humility in the student > even at an impressionable age. It is the spirit that lies behind the > Mother - Bhiksha (Matri - Bhiksha) ceremony in the Upanayanam Samskara > when the Brahmachari seeks food from the mothers by uttering " Bhavati > Bhiksham Dehi " thrice. From times immemorial all the great > philosophers, poets, reformers and religious teachers of the land have > always exhibited a deep sense of humility. The great Sankara > Bhagavatpada, considered by many as a Divine incarnation, set the trend > of humility in all his works. Even though he out-shone his Guru, Govinda > Bhagavatpada, in learning as well as in achievement, he refers to > himself in all his works as only the discipline of Govinda Bhagavatpada > (alluding that his greatness was not his own, but results of the grace > of his Guru), when he concluded his works with the following words : > [img2.gif (3639 bytes)] Soundaryalahari is one of the greatest > compositions of Sri Sankaracharya which celebrates the beauty ineffable > of the Supreme Mother. At the end of Soundaryalahari, in the hundredth > Sloka, Sri Sankaracharya makes a confession which is extra- ordinary in > its humility. [img3.gif (6470 bytes)] I have only offered this > Stotra with the gift of your own words - you are the mother of words. > This is similar to waving the light of camphor to the all-bright Sun, > offering " Arghya " to the moon from the water oozing out of the > Moon-stone. Kalidasa, recknoned as one of the fore-most poets in > world literature, was no less humble. His sense of humility was amply > reflected in the opening verses of his epic poem Raghuvamsam when he > says - [img4.gif (3262 bytes)] Where is the race sprung from the > Sun ? And where is my poor intellectual equipment? Me thinks from sheer > folly I am bent upon crossing the ocean, though difficult to do so, by > the help of a small boat. [img5.1.gif (3311 bytes)] Incompetant > as I am, I should make myself the butt of ridicule were I to covet the > fame of a poet, like a dwarf (who could be laughed at) greedily > stretching his hand to pluck a fruit that can be reached only by a tall > man. Sanatana Dharma always believes that whenever someone > accomplishes a meritorious task in any field whatsoever, recognition is > bound to come to him, sooner or later, without his boasting about it. > This fact is particularly emphasised in the Mahanarayana Upanishad when > it declares- [img6.1.gif (2859 bytes)] Just as the fragrance of > a tree fully covered with flowers is wafted by the wind even from a > distant place, so too, the fragrance of meritorious deeds - the good > name that occurs from them - spreads to a great distance, even without > the doer proclaiming it himself. No wonder, one of Kautilya's > aphorisms (Chankya Sutra) says : [img7.gif (1334 bytes)] > , " Ramesh Tendulkar " > <ram_t_1968@> wrote: > > > > No updates on my post. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Dear Sunil ji, Forgot to mention...if you would not mind...kindly explain the Hindi phrases/sentences. blessings Renu , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > HUMILITY - THE CREST JEWEL OF TRUE LEARNING The ancient Gurukula > system of education in India was so well-planned and organised that by > the time a pupil completed his education, he would have developed all > the good qualities and virtued which would enable him to become a true > citizen of the country. One of the most important traits which he > acquired during his tutelage was a sense of humility - a trait which was > considered the crest jewel of true education by the ancient Indians. > Bhartruhari, the famous sanskrit poet of the 7th century A.D., therefore > said that a man without such an education(which combined humility) was a > brute - [img1.gif (2830 bytes)] The principal goal of education, > according to Sanatana Dharma, is to realise the truth of God. With a > view to assisting a person to realise this, the Gurukula system of > education laid stress both on devotion (Bhakti) as well as humility > (Vinaya). Learning started when one was quite young - as well as five > years old - and teacher (Guru) taught the students without charging any > fees (unlike the modern days). As the teacher's main occupation and > concern was teaching, he was not supposed to waste his time in search of > his daily food. On the other hand. pupil would go arround collecting > food from household both for himself as well as for the teacher's family > calling out at each house ( Bhavati Bhilksham Dehi) or May you give me > some alms - the request being made to the lady of the house. This kind > of life, begging for food, induced a sense of humility in the student > even at an impressionable age. It is the spirit that lies behind the > Mother - Bhiksha (Matri - Bhiksha) ceremony in the Upanayanam Samskara > when the Brahmachari seeks food from the mothers by uttering " Bhavati > Bhiksham Dehi " thrice. From times immemorial all the great > philosophers, poets, reformers and religious teachers of the land have > always exhibited a deep sense of humility. The great Sankara > Bhagavatpada, considered by many as a Divine incarnation, set the trend > of humility in all his works. Even though he out-shone his Guru, Govinda > Bhagavatpada, in learning as well as in achievement, he refers to > himself in all his works as only the discipline of Govinda Bhagavatpada > (alluding that his greatness was not his own, but results of the grace > of his Guru), when he concluded his works with the following words : > [img2.gif (3639 bytes)] Soundaryalahari is one of the greatest > compositions of Sri Sankaracharya which celebrates the beauty ineffable > of the Supreme Mother. At the end of Soundaryalahari, in the hundredth > Sloka, Sri Sankaracharya makes a confession which is extra- ordinary in > its humility. [img3.gif (6470 bytes)] I have only offered this > Stotra with the gift of your own words - you are the mother of words. > This is similar to waving the light of camphor to the all-bright Sun, > offering " Arghya " to the moon from the water oozing out of the > Moon-stone. Kalidasa, recknoned as one of the fore-most poets in > world literature, was no less humble. His sense of humility was amply > reflected in the opening verses of his epic poem Raghuvamsam when he > says - [img4.gif (3262 bytes)] Where is the race sprung from the > Sun ? And where is my poor intellectual equipment? Me thinks from sheer > folly I am bent upon crossing the ocean, though difficult to do so, by > the help of a small boat. [img5.1.gif (3311 bytes)] Incompetant > as I am, I should make myself the butt of ridicule were I to covet the > fame of a poet, like a dwarf (who could be laughed at) greedily > stretching his hand to pluck a fruit that can be reached only by a tall > man. Sanatana Dharma always believes that whenever someone > accomplishes a meritorious task in any field whatsoever, recognition is > bound to come to him, sooner or later, without his boasting about it. > This fact is particularly emphasised in the Mahanarayana Upanishad when > it declares- [img6.1.gif (2859 bytes)] Just as the fragrance of > a tree fully covered with flowers is wafted by the wind even from a > distant place, so too, the fragrance of meritorious deeds - the good > name that occurs from them - spreads to a great distance, even without > the doer proclaiming it himself. No wonder, one of Kautilya's > aphorisms (Chankya Sutra) says : [img7.gif (1334 bytes)] > , " Ramesh Tendulkar " > <ram_t_1968@> wrote: > > > > No updates on my post. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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