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Dear Gopuji,

 

Namaste,

 

Agreed, Ramana Maharshi was a realised soul. But a grihasthi should

notlose hope as he too can realise God though it is said to be tougher

this way but commendable. We know that after Rishi Astavakra finished

his spiritual training and sadhana he was sent by his father to take

training under King Janaka. King Janaka achieved the highst spiritual

attainments inspite of being a king and remaining absorbed in his

regal functions.

 

Regards,

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

, K Gopu <kgopu_24

wrote:

>

> dear renuji and bhaskarji,

> I have been reading enlightening mails on the above subject. I am

sharing my

> thoughts. We want to realise or see God thro the five senses but God

is not

> made of five senses on the other hand it is God who has created all

living beings

> on this planet and they are made of five senses(pancha butha). Only

very great saints like

> Ramana maharishi who had denounced material world could realize god.

Probably there may be many saints like him who are not known to us.

> Coming to the sufferings of humanity, God has given us this planet

to live a happy and peaceful life but unfortunately the man' s greed

to possess every material object in this world has increased

multifold. this attitude has increased his demonic thinking and

approach to achieve his desire. In the process all our secientific

inventions are interfering with nature and creating lot of hardships.

If a citizen of USA consumes 3400 calories of food everyday whereas

many in the rest of the world cant even get 500 calories. Spiritual

approach in US is vanishing and demonic approach has over taken, so

the rulers of such nations adopt adharmic methods to achieve their

goal at the cost of others living in rest of the world.

> Probably even in God's kingdom we have read that there are Asuras as

well as Devas.

> We approach God only with the aim that either today or tomorrow we

shud not land up in

> financial/ health problems. so the fault is at our end and God

cannot come to our perpetual faulty activities.

>

> good wishes,

> k.gopu

>

>

>

> --- On Wed, 7/30/08, renunw <renunw wrote:

>

> renunw <renunw

> Re: who knows God?

>

> Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 12:20 PM

Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> I understand what you say. You may be a good person whom even

> god/gods help/s. I believe you. But can you show this god to anyone

> else...I am not coming back to previous mail hence I have explained

> to you what my intentions were.

>

> But I could [now she is no more] show my mother to the world at

> large. I and others whom she met in her life time could comprehend

> her through the 5 senses.

>

> blessings

> Renu

>

> Renu

>

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Dear Shri Gopuji,

You have spoken truly.

// We approach God only with the aim that either today or tomorrow we shud not land up in financial/ health problems. so the fault is at our end and God cannot come to our perpetual faulty activities. //

this is what generally God is remembered for .

I personally remember God for protection to health, and also to gain His Love and bhakti and to fulfill my fillial duties to the happiness of my near and dear ones. .and now as a astrologer, to guide me to help the natives seek proper directions as per their charts.

regards,

bhaskar.

 

, K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote:>> dear renuji and bhaskarji,> I have been reading enlightening mails on the above subject. I am sharing my> thoughts. We want to realise or see God thro the five senses but God is not> made of five senses on the other hand it is God who has created all living beings> on this planet and they are made of five senses(pancha butha). Only very great saints like> Ramana maharishi who had denounced material world could realize god. Probably there may be many saints like him who are not known to us.> Coming to the sufferings of humanity, God has given us this planet to live a happy and peaceful life but unfortunately the man' s greed to possess every material object in this world has increased multifold. this attitude has increased his demonic thinking and approach to achieve his desire. In the process all our secientific inventions are interfering with nature and creating lot of hardships. If a citizen of USA consumes 3400 calories of food everyday whereas many in the rest of the world cant even get 500 calories. Spiritual approach in US is vanishing and demonic approach has over taken, so the rulers of such nations adopt adharmic methods to achieve their goal at the cost of others living in rest of the world.> Probably even in God's kingdom we have read that there are Asuras as well as Devas.> We approach God only with the aim that either today or tomorrow we shud not land up in> financial/ health problems. so the fault is at our end and God cannot come to our perpetual faulty activities.> > good wishes,> k.gopu> > > > --- On Wed, 7/30/08, renunw renunw wrote:> > renunw renunw Re: who knows God?> > Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 12:20 PM> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > I understand what you say. You may be a good person whom even> god/gods help/s. I believe you. But can you show this god to anyone> else...I am not coming back to previous mail hence I have explained> to you what my intentions were.> > But I could [now she is no more] show my mother to the world at> large. I and others whom she met in her life time could comprehend> her through the 5 senses.> > blessings> Renu> > Renu>

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Dear Jaya ji, That was a nice note. :)Love and regards,Sreenadh , "revati_n27" <revati_n27 wrote:>> White light consists of seven colors of the visible spectrum and in > order to see the same we have to look through prism. We cannot deny > the fact just because we cannot see it. May be we need to equip > ourselves to see God.> > There is a poem in Malayalam by Ulloor Parameswarayyar "aduthu nilporu > anujane nockan akshikalillathorcku aroopaneeswaranan adrisyanayal > athinenthascharyam". Meaning (to the closest) it is not surprising if > God is not visible to those who cannot see their own brother standing > next to them.> > Normal being like myslef can see God around ourselves only. "Siva > Jnane jana Seva" as like Swami Vivekananda says. > > Jaya>

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Hare ramakrihna

dear jaya

again nice thinking ,good to read

thanks

sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

, "revati_n27" <revati_n27 wrote:>> Sunilji:> > Speaking of personal God, I have missed out the discussion on Hindu > Gods with weapons. As a child I have learned from some source (it > cannot be coming from my brain) that the incarnations indirectly > explain the theroy of evolution (Darvin came up with the theory only in > 1858?). The origin of life in water (matsya), then Koorma (both water > and land), then varaha (animal on land), narasimha (between animal and > human), vamana (smaller version of human being), parasurama (cave man, > with axe), Balarama (peasant), SriRama (more modern with bow and arrow) > and very modern Krishna. > > It was very fascinating to know as a child. I tell my children the > same story. > > Jaya>

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Dear Sunil ji,

That was beautiful! Thanks for the Osho write-up.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

>

>

> hare ramakrishna

>

>

>

> jaya ,

>

> thanks for good write up

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah

>

> -------------------------

>

> this is frm osho-Gratefulness is true religion

>

> ======================================

>

>

>

> :* DO YOU BELIEVE IN FIGHTING INJUSTICE?

>

> A:* I don't believe in anything.

>

> Q:* DO YOU THINK THAT ONE SHOULD FIGHT JUSTICE, INJUSTICE?

>

> A:* One should not have shoulds and should nots.

> One should simply exist spontaneously. If the moment brings fight,

fight

> - and fight totally, intensely. But don't fight for a belief. Don't

> fight for a prejudice. Live in the moment. Be alert. And out of that

> alertness, whatsoever happens, enjoy it.

> So let me explain it exactly because that may help you to understand

> other questions and answers.

> I don't have any belief system. I don't have any creed, dogma. My

whole

> approach is existential.

> Right now, you are there, I am here - and this is enough. You may have

> prepared your questions. I have not prepared my answers. So you can

ask

> your questions, and I am a crazy man, I may say anything that comes in

> the moment. I don't care for any consistency, and I don't care for any

> respectability. My whole responsibility is to this moment. Beyond that

> there is nothing.

>

> Q:* HOW'S THIS MOMENT GOING FOR YOU?

>

> A:* Beautifully. Your moustache giving me great joy! Only you are

> missing a beard. It is half-hearted. Just go the full way.

>

> Q:* WELL, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT GROWING ONE.

>

> A:* You do it! A man without a beard and moustache is just like a

woman

> with a moustache and beard!

>

> Q:* ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, I HAD A REALLY DARK TIME IN MY LIFE

AND

> SOMEBODY SUGGESTED TO GET INTO MEDITATION, AND I BOUGHT YOUR ORANGE

BOOK

> ON MEDITATION. AND THE ONE THAT CHANGED WHAT WAS HAPPENING FOR ME WAS

> THE LAUGHTER MEDITATION. AS SOON AS I KNEW I WAS AWAKE, AND I STARTED

> LAUGHING, THE WHOLE DAY WENT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN BEFORE. SO I

NEED

> TO THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME THIS MEDITATION.

>

> A:* Just one meditation has done that much for you. If you try few

> others, you will not find words to thank me.

> I have 112 methods of meditation. And if a person can manage even 10

out

> of those, his life will be a sheer joy with no dark moments, with no

> frustration, with no tension, no anxiety. Whatsoever happens, he will

be

> able to accept it, without any grudge, without any complaint. His

> gratitude towards existence will be infinite.

> We are very ungrateful to existence. It has given so much to us, and

> without our asking. And we are such ungrateful creatures, that we

don't

> even bother to look around what existence is continuously doing for us

-

> the sun, the moon, the stars, the trees, the birds, the animals, the

> people. You are living in a tremendously beautiful dream, but you have

> to be awake about it. Then only a gratefulness arises.

> I call that gratefulness, true religion. A man need not be a Christian

> to be religious, need not be a Hindu to be religious. All that he

needs

> is a deep gratitude towards existence - he need not believe in God, he

> need not believe in heaven and hell - just a simple phenomenon: a deep

> felt gratitude that this existence would have been missing something

> without you. That this vast existence needed you, no one else. And

your

> place was empty before you, will be empty after you - it is

> irreplaceable. That gives a great contentment.

> Man's greatest need is to be needed. And when you feel that the whole

> existence needs you.... Otherwise you would not have been here!

>

> Osho - The Last testament, vol.2 #3

, " revati_n27 "

> revati_n27@ wrote:

> >

> > White light consists of seven colors of the visible spectrum and in

> > order to see the same we have to look through prism. We cannot deny

> > the fact just because we cannot see it. May be we need to equip

> > ourselves to see God.

> >

> > There is a poem in Malayalam by Ulloor Parameswarayyar " aduthu

nilporu

> > anujane nockan akshikalillathorcku aroopaneeswaranan adrisyanayal

> > athinenthascharyam " . Meaning (to the closest) it is not surprising

if

> > God is not visible to those who cannot see their own brother

standing

> > next to them.

> >

> > Normal being like myslef can see God around ourselves only. " Siva

> > Jnane jana Seva " as like Swami Vivekananda says.

> >

> > Jaya

> >

>

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Dear Bhagavati ji,

I second Sunil ji. Yes, truly that was nice post. :)

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

>

>

> hare ramakrishna

>

> dear bhaghavathi ji

>

> good post ,another good write up frm our Lady s brigade .but i

like

> to add some more lines .

>

> every one has his own god in hinduism ( if that is the name of our

> religion ) ,very personal god , that is beauty of it i think ,

>

> even ur krishna is diffrnt frm my krishna ,so just enjoy the moment

and

> let us liv happily

>

>

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah

>

>

> ,

" bhagavathi_hariharan "

> bhagavathi_hariharan@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear all,

> >

> > I have been following this thread on God, suddenly I got realization

> > of God and decided to write. God is life, hence all living beings

are

> > God. It is said when the baby comes to the world he cries, which

> > sounds like " Ko (kaha) aham " (who am I), then later the cry sounds

> > like So (saha) aham (I am Him). All living creatures are God, hence

> > they say do not kill even the tiniest of the bug. Human is the

> > superior form of God, because he can do everything.

> >

> > There are different kinds of people who follow different religion.

> > only in Hinduism, god is worshipped in the form of human being.

> > Interestingly, I never understood the origin of Hinduism, I do not

> > know who founded Hinduism. An Indian doctor got converted to

> > Christianity, he asked me to follow him, next day I got several

> > people from his church called me and said they would take me to free

> > bowling, give me free food etc, I asked them the reason why I should

> > convert. They said, Christianity believes in monotheism unlike

> > Hinduism.

> >

> > This is the explanation I gave to them-

> >

> > Hinduism also believes in monotheism, then why so many Gods, I told

> > like how each human has a mother, father, brothers, sisters, uncles,

> > aunts, girlfriends, lovers, boyfriends, secretaries etc, Gods also

> > have , so the relative of a God is another God, Hinduism does not

> > separate human from God at any point. When we come to the world, we

> > are without anything but have our fists closed, how much ever you

try

> > to open a baby's hand, the fists remains closed- meaning I want to

> > conquer everything, I want to have everything. While when we leave,

> > again we do not have anything but our hands are wide open, will not

> > close now because we gave all that we got. My Sanskrit teacher

always

> > used to say- when you are living you are " shivam " , when you die you

> > become " shavam " . Between the closed and open fists there exists a

> > great drama that is life

> >

> > After I told this, one of the church guy asked me do people get

> > converted to Hinduism? I said no, you realize Hinduism, there is no

> > religion, I do not know what was the impact, they left me alone

> >

> > Mass destruction, why is God cruel?-

> >

> > In the drama between the closed and open fists, God keeps editing,

> > cutting, copying and pasting the scenes, but the drama is of a high

> > order suspense thriller

> >

> > If we observe a girl child, she always loves her dolls, a boy loves

> > soldiers, slowly when they progress in life, the boy runs

> > after " dolls " and the girl runs after the " soldiers " , that is a

> > different issue. We often see that no two girls play the same, one

of

> > them loves to care for the doll, one of them has fun in breaking one

> > hand, one of them loves to remove the eyes, one of them comes to fix

> > the broken doll, one of them tries to throw the broken doll and

> > replace with a new one. Similarly, boys have fun in dashing two

cars,

> > shooting with guns, so in childhood, we do all this when we are

still

> > in the purest form of God. As we grow up, we become saints,

> > criminals, rapists, druggists, doctors and what not-.

> >

> > Whenever, I was sacrificing hundreds of guinea pigs and mice, I

> > always saw their docile faces, they are unaware of their death,

their

> > purpose is over, to me it is my profession, so I was hard-hearted,

> > same way, we are the guinea pigs for God, he is experimenting with

> > his creation. He got the reigns of the drama in his hands in the

form

> > of the " Rashi chakra " , fortune wheel, he programs it and has fun. So

> > each life on earth springs from this drama.

> >

> > When we realize all this, be kind to another human, to another life,

> > stop hating each other, we can make ourselves easy to live, be

> > prepared for the best or for the worst. We will be continuing our

> > drama in each birth as they say the soul finds another form

> > everytime. Hence they say yatha karma tatha phalam.

> >

> > When we come to terms with these thoughts, we fully realize God, but

> > still will not be able to explain to anyone, as this realization

> > should come from within, like how I got enlightened after reading

> > this thread for so many days!!! These are my own views, please do

not

> > do google search to find the origin of this. If you hit on any

> > reference then it will be sheer coincidence.

> >

> > I hope this would end this thread - " I came, I saw but not sure

> > whether I conquered "

> >

> >

> > bhagavathi

> >

>

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Hare rama krishna

dear sreenadh ji

many thnaks for ur nice words

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

, "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> That was beautiful! Thanks for the Osho write-up.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> >> >> > hare ramakrishna> >> >> >> > jaya ,> >> > thanks for good write up> >> > regrds sunil nair> >> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> >> > -------------------------> >> > this is frm osho-Gratefulness is true religion> >> > ======================================> >> >> >> > :* DO YOU BELIEVE IN FIGHTING INJUSTICE?> >> > A:* I don't believe in anything.> >> > Q:* DO YOU THINK THAT ONE SHOULD FIGHT JUSTICE, INJUSTICE?> >> > A:* One should not have shoulds and should nots.> > One should simply exist spontaneously. If the moment brings fight,> fight> > - and fight totally, intensely. But don't fight for a belief. Don't> > fight for a prejudice. Live in the moment. Be alert. And out of that> > alertness, whatsoever happens, enjoy it.> > So let me explain it exactly because that may help you to understand> > other questions and answers.> > I don't have any belief system. I don't have any creed, dogma. My> whole> > approach is existential.> > Right now, you are there, I am here - and this is enough. You may have> > prepared your questions. I have not prepared my answers. So you can> ask> > your questions, and I am a crazy man, I may say anything that comes in> > the moment. I don't care for any consistency, and I don't care for any> > respectability. My whole responsibility is to this moment. Beyond that> > there is nothing.> >> > Q:* HOW'S THIS MOMENT GOING FOR YOU?> >> > A:* Beautifully. Your moustache giving me great joy! Only you are> > missing a beard. It is half-hearted. Just go the full way.> >> > Q:* WELL, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT GROWING ONE.> >> > A:* You do it! A man without a beard and moustache is just like a> woman> > with a moustache and beard!> >> > Q:* ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, I HAD A REALLY DARK TIME IN MY LIFE> AND> > SOMEBODY SUGGESTED TO GET INTO MEDITATION, AND I BOUGHT YOUR ORANGE> BOOK> > ON MEDITATION. AND THE ONE THAT CHANGED WHAT WAS HAPPENING FOR ME WAS> > THE LAUGHTER MEDITATION. AS SOON AS I KNEW I WAS AWAKE, AND I STARTED> > LAUGHING, THE WHOLE DAY WENT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN BEFORE. SO I> NEED> > TO THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME THIS MEDITATION.> >> > A:* Just one meditation has done that much for you. If you try few> > others, you will not find words to thank me.> > I have 112 methods of meditation. And if a person can manage even 10> out> > of those, his life will be a sheer joy with no dark moments, with no> > frustration, with no tension, no anxiety. Whatsoever happens, he will> be> > able to accept it, without any grudge, without any complaint. His> > gratitude towards existence will be infinite.> > We are very ungrateful to existence. It has given so much to us, and> > without our asking. And we are such ungrateful creatures, that we> don't> > even bother to look around what existence is continuously doing for us> -> > the sun, the moon, the stars, the trees, the birds, the animals, the> > people. You are living in a tremendously beautiful dream, but you have> > to be awake about it. Then only a gratefulness arises.> > I call that gratefulness, true religion. A man need not be a Christian> > to be religious, need not be a Hindu to be religious. All that he> needs> > is a deep gratitude towards existence - he need not believe in God, he> > need not believe in heaven and hell - just a simple phenomenon: a deep> > felt gratitude that this existence would have been missing something> > without you. That this vast existence needed you, no one else. And> your> > place was empty before you, will be empty after you - it is> > irreplaceable. That gives a great contentment.> > Man's greatest need is to be needed. And when you feel that the whole> > existence needs you.... Otherwise you would not have been here!> >> > Osho - The Last testament, vol.2 #3> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "revati_n27"> > revati_n27@ wrote:> > >> > > White light consists of seven colors of the visible spectrum and in> > > order to see the same we have to look through prism. We cannot deny> > > the fact just because we cannot see it. May be we need to equip> > > ourselves to see God.> > >> > > There is a poem in Malayalam by Ulloor Parameswarayyar "aduthu> nilporu> > > anujane nockan akshikalillathorcku aroopaneeswaranan adrisyanayal> > > athinenthascharyam". Meaning (to the closest) it is not surprising> if> > > God is not visible to those who cannot see their own brother> standing> > > next to them.> > >> > > Normal being like myslef can see God around ourselves only. "Siva> > > Jnane jana Seva" as like Swami Vivekananda says.> > >> > > Jaya> > >> >>

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Dear Sunil nairji,

A good piece.

but it seems Osho copied me. Ha ha. I cannot copy him because i have not read his books for two decades.

// I don't care for any consistency, and I don't care for any > > respectability. //

regards,

bhaskar.

 

, "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > > Hare rama krishna> > dear sreenadh ji> > many thnaks for ur nice words> > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > , "Sreenadh"> sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > That was beautiful! Thanks for the Osho write-up.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> > , "sunil nair"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > hare ramakrishna> > >> > >> > >> > > jaya ,> > >> > > thanks for good write up> > >> > > regrds sunil nair> > >> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > >> > > -------------------------> > >> > > this is frm osho-Gratefulness is true religion> > >> > > ======================================> > >> > >> > >> > > :* DO YOU BELIEVE IN FIGHTING INJUSTICE?> > >> > > A:* I don't believe in anything.> > >> > > Q:* DO YOU THINK THAT ONE SHOULD FIGHT JUSTICE, INJUSTICE?> > >> > > A:* One should not have shoulds and should nots.> > > One should simply exist spontaneously. If the moment brings fight,> > fight> > > - and fight totally, intensely. But don't fight for a belief. Don't> > > fight for a prejudice. Live in the moment. Be alert. And out of that> > > alertness, whatsoever happens, enjoy it.> > > So let me explain it exactly because that may help you to understand> > > other questions and answers.> > > I don't have any belief system. I don't have any creed, dogma. My> > whole> > > approach is existential.> > > Right now, you are there, I am here - and this is enough. You may> have> > > prepared your questions. I have not prepared my answers. So you can> > ask> > > your questions, and I am a crazy man, I may say anything that comes> in> > > the moment. I don't care for any consistency, and I don't care for> any> > > respectability. My whole responsibility is to this moment. Beyond> that> > > there is nothing.> > >> > > Q:* HOW'S THIS MOMENT GOING FOR YOU?> > >> > > A:* Beautifully. Your moustache giving me great joy! Only you are> > > missing a beard. It is half-hearted. Just go the full way.> > >> > > Q:* WELL, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT GROWING ONE.> > >> > > A:* You do it! A man without a beard and moustache is just like a> > woman> > > with a moustache and beard!> > >> > > Q:* ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, I HAD A REALLY DARK TIME IN MY LIFE> > AND> > > SOMEBODY SUGGESTED TO GET INTO MEDITATION, AND I BOUGHT YOUR ORANGE> > BOOK> > > ON MEDITATION. AND THE ONE THAT CHANGED WHAT WAS HAPPENING FOR ME> WAS> > > THE LAUGHTER MEDITATION. AS SOON AS I KNEW I WAS AWAKE, AND I> STARTED> > > LAUGHING, THE WHOLE DAY WENT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN BEFORE. SO I> > NEED> > > TO THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME THIS MEDITATION.> > >> > > A:* Just one meditation has done that much for you. If you try few> > > others, you will not find words to thank me.> > > I have 112 methods of meditation. And if a person can manage even 10> > out> > > of those, his life will be a sheer joy with no dark moments, with no> > > frustration, with no tension, no anxiety. Whatsoever happens, he> will> > be> > > able to accept it, without any grudge, without any complaint. His> > > gratitude towards existence will be infinite.> > > We are very ungrateful to existence. It has given so much to us, and> > > without our asking. And we are such ungrateful creatures, that we> > don't> > > even bother to look around what existence is continuously doing for> us> > -> > > the sun, the moon, the stars, the trees, the birds, the animals, the> > > people. You are living in a tremendously beautiful dream, but you> have> > > to be awake about it. Then only a gratefulness arises.> > > I call that gratefulness, true religion. A man need not be a> Christian> > > to be religious, need not be a Hindu to be religious. All that he> > needs> > > is a deep gratitude towards existence - he need not believe in God,> he> > > need not believe in heaven and hell - just a simple phenomenon: a> deep> > > felt gratitude that this existence would have been missing something> > > without you. That this vast existence needed you, no one else. And> > your> > > place was empty before you, will be empty after you - it is> > > irreplaceable. That gives a great contentment.> > > Man's greatest need is to be needed. And when you feel that the> whole> > > existence needs you.... Otherwise you would not have been here!> > >> > > Osho - The Last testament, vol.2 #3> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "revati_n27"> > > revati_n27@ wrote:> > > >> > > > White light consists of seven colors of the visible spectrum and> in> > > > order to see the same we have to look through prism. We cannot> deny> > > > the fact just because we cannot see it. May be we need to equip> > > > ourselves to see God.> > > >> > > > There is a poem in Malayalam by Ulloor Parameswarayyar "aduthu> > nilporu> > > > anujane nockan akshikalillathorcku aroopaneeswaranan adrisyanayal> > > > athinenthascharyam". Meaning (to the closest) it is not surprising> > if> > > > God is not visible to those who cannot see their own brother> > standing> > > > next to them.> > > >> > > > Normal being like myslef can see God around ourselves only. "Siva> > > > Jnane jana Seva" as like Swami Vivekananda says.> > > >> > > > Jaya> > > >> > >> >>

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Hare ramakrishna

respected bhaskar ji

Thoughts were always there and will b there ,diffrnt ppl talk it in difrnt context ,or same context at difrnt time periods ( i mean kaala ) .So every one feels we r copying some body .

Last day i heard some one on TV ( intllectual and script writer ) that if scavenger job is well paid job we can see all indian parents will b struggling to make their kids as best scavengers ,we will hav merit vs quota strikes will b based on this job.And so on ---

it was my line of thinking also ,but now can i use it ??

ha ha

 

thanks for the post

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

, "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises wrote:>> > Dear Sunil nairji,> > A good piece.> > but it seems Osho copied me. Ha ha. I cannot copy him because i have not> read his books for two decades.> > // I don't care for any consistency, and I don't care for any > >> respectability. //> > regards,> > bhaskar.>

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Yes, Neelam Ji

 

You are right,

Today's world, all the kids and our next generation believe what they see, in front of themselves,

They read what can be thought of or imagined of,

Hanuman was a hit cartoon animation but not a hit mythology,

It is so tough for any Sanyasi/Guru now, to justify the presence or properties of N numbers of Hindu Gods,

and equally tough to appease same list of Gods, in the list of priority,

 

Can we imagine a child born in year 2050 and what he would like to praise/worship/recognise/appreciate the powers of God in his own assumed matter,

 

We are at a stage to see the widest range of beliefs and happenings.

 

Regards to all elders.

 

JYO

 

On 7/29/08,

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