Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Agreed. How does it connect to astrology? He, She or It? Pagan or Western? Mythological or Philosophical? Where does science fit in? Any conclusion, from eminent members of the group helps! Amma Saranam! Regards Ramesh neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Tuesday, 29 July, 2008 8:48:20 PM who knows God? Dear Friends, The debate about what is God, cannot lead anywhere. One can fill pages and pages on trying to explain what is God, yet not reach anywhere near the truth. God…the cosmic principle… the eternal energy… the driving force… the truth… give it whatever you may like, yet we are like blind men trying to see what an elephant looks like… all may be right, yet not right. All have a knowledge but yet do not know. What we call knowledge always comes from outside, whereas 'knowing' always comes from within. We can obtain the knowledge of God from books and sermons but not the " knowing " of God; that has to come from within. There is a difference between knowledge and knowing. Knowledge makes a man learned but not wise. Wisdom comes only by knowing – knowing oneself. This is the greatest problem in life: those who, know, need no explanation and there is no way of explaining to those who do not know. In trying to explain to the latter, more problems are created. What is known, is always known from within; and what is imparted, may only be superficial knowledge. A man may read all the books on swimming. He may become an authority on all the information regarding swimming. He may even qualify to lecture on the subject – but do not ever push him into water, for whatever his qualifications, he cannot swim! To know swimming and to know about it, are two entirely different things. It is quite possible that one who knows swimming may be unable to explain it. He might say: " All I know is that I jump into water and – I swim! You too, will swim if you jump. If you insist on him larifying his statement, one will say: " How is it possible to speak about it? I can jump in the water and demonstrate. What discussion can there be in the matter of swimming? " So also, we can know about God but that is not knowing God. There is a great number of such learned pundits amongst us who know about God, but where are those who " know " God? Regards Neelam Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to http://in.promos./groups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 It connects Rameshji, astrology is also one limb of God that blind men like us are trying to discover?So let us go on with our astrological journey...RegardsNeelam 2008/7/29 Ramesh <ram_t_1968 Agreed. How does it connect to astrology? He, She or It? Pagan or Western? Mythological or Philosophical? Where does science fit in? Any conclusion, from eminent members of the group helps! Amma Saranam! Regards Ramesh neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Tuesday, 29 July, 2008 8:48:20 PM who knows God? Dear Friends, The debate about what is God, cannot lead anywhere. One can fill pages and pages on trying to explain what is God, yet not reach anywhere near the truth. God…the cosmic principle… the eternal energy… the driving force… the truth… give it whatever you may like, yet we are like blind men trying to see what an elephant looks like… all may be right, yet not right. All have a knowledge but yet do not know. What we call knowledge always comes from outside, whereas 'knowing' always comes from within. We can obtain the knowledge of God from books and sermons but not the " knowing " of God; that has to come from within. There is a difference between knowledge and knowing. Knowledge makes a man learned but not wise. Wisdom comes only by knowing – knowing oneself. This is the greatest problem in life: those who, know, need no explanation and there is no way of explaining to those who do not know. In trying to explain to the latter, more problems are created. What is known, is always known from within; and what is imparted, may only be superficial knowledge. A man may read all the books on swimming. He may become an authority on all the information regarding swimming. He may even qualify to lecture on the subject – but do not ever push him into water, for whatever his qualifications, he cannot swim! To know swimming and to know about it, are two entirely different things. It is quite possible that one who knows swimming may be unable to explain it. He might say: " All I know is that I jump into water and – I swim! You too, will swim if you jump. If you insist on him larifying his statement, one will say: " How is it possible to speak about it? I can jump in the water and demonstrate. What discussion can there be in the matter of swimming? " So also, we can know about God but that is not knowing God. There is a great number of such learned pundits amongst us who know about God, but where are those who " know " God? Regards Neelam Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to http://in.promos./groups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Namaste Neelamji: That was a wonderful post, the difference between the knowledge and experience. I love these two verses from Isavasya upanishad Om Isavasyamidam sarvam yatkiñca jagatyam jagat tena tyaktena bhuñjitha ma grdhah kasyasvid dhanam hiranmayena patrena satyasyapihitam mukham tat tvam pusannapavrnu satyadharmaya drstaye When we are born, our mind and brain are not developed yet, so infants are like Yogis knowing the God better. When our mind and brain start to develop by taking up the stimulus from immediate surroundings (ofcourse planetary andf heriditary effects are there as well), we become good or bad and move closer or farther from Her/Him. Jaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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