LL_in_Different_Amsa_Taurus

July 31, 2008

Dear Bhaskar ji,Thank you very much for taking pains to explain the method and approach behind your analysis. I do appreciate the insightful and indepth analysis. Though I have some reservations/queries on some points, but I'll let that pass as we are not stretching the thread further.

I am sure it was an excellent learning opportunity for many of us.RegardsNeelam2008/7/31 Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

Dear Neelamji,

My last take on this thread, no sense of waiting for more inputs. I liked the way you made efforts to understand this, by drawing a navamsa chart and understanding it personally without being told about the absence of Taurus navamsha for the watery signs . And i wish You to understand this fully, so that you need no one, no books or any other material to understand the decoding of the navamsha for - Predictive astrology. This would be my gift to a excersising mind. Others those who may be interested must read this properly, because here is shown the best technique of prediction.

Examples.

For instance for a Aries nativity Mars in the 2nd house in natal chart in taurus navamsha would mean mars is having the degrees between 13.20 to 16.40 degrees. ( If mars is any other degrees it would not get taurus Navamsha) So how do we get to predictive part ? Mars is Lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 2. First of all he may have loss of wealth as well as throat problems. also elder brother of mother may have problem . also his family peace may be shattered. he may have headaches or problems related to face. Next part we must move to the degrees. This is ruled by which planet we must see . it is ruled by moon. What role does moon have to play in the Aries nativity chart ? It is ruler of the 4th house. When you connect the 4th house wuith the 8th and the 2nd. what do you get ? Problems to mother. problems related to breast or chest. this is how one predicts. i am in habit of doing this in few minutes for the whole chart because this is what i am doing for last 2 years continously. In fact one does not have to see the navamsha chart itself. you just see the degrees and start predicting. Most of my whole-life predictions to my clients are based on a single sheet of data, without any recourse needed for referring 20 charts or sheets of paper. And the nutshell of a persons life in all areas opens up just within few seconds if you believe me with the degrees chart in front of you. add a few minutes more to this and you can safelt tell the native what must have happened when in his life and what could be expected when.after all the natives do not come to us for generalisations but for predictions. I had given these results when i had laid down for the Placement of Mars in 2nd house, a few messages ago-

Not good for Mothers health or Domestic bless.

If Leo and sun is afflicted then the natives heart would also be a problem after middle age. Mother can die during Mars period.

We will take another placement for the same Aries nativity.

Mars placed in 6th house.

again to have taurus navamsha one needs mars to be in degrees 13.20 to 16.40. mars is lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 6th. So automatic 1,6, and 8 would give give disease and surgery this point must strike the mind immediately in few seconds. But why mother may die ? the above degrees are ruled by moon who is lord of the 4th house. So connect this and you have the predictions immediately. You can expand on home , House, land property, studies etc. whatever query is put by the native, the answer would depend only on these base figures. I had given these results for the mars placement in 6th house

Will suffer operation in this period of Mars antardasha.

can earn good money through insurance. Mother may die

during this period or be hospitalised.

here why i had mentioned would earn good money through insurance ? Because the 8th house concerns death and the 6th house concerns commissions. Those astrologers who know to take advantages of such combinations in all periods can be winners. ( Astrologers can also do good with the transits if they know how to use them effectively )

I will take one last placement as an example, because i have to do my other duties too.

Mars placed in 11th in natal chart for Aries nativity with taurus navamsha.

here the degrees of Mars must be between 23.20 and 26.40 to land in taurus navamsha.

mars is lord of 1 and 8, placed in 11th. sounds good and bad both. good because 11th is house of gains and lagna lord placed in 11th house produces a Great dhana yoga. Is it not ? but first of all dont forget that 11th is the badhaksthana for this Lagna. next the native may have a breaking of his leg because the 11th house means portion below the knees ( calves ), the above degrees are ruled by jupiter who is Lord of 9th and 12th for this chart. now when 12th is running simultaneously with 8th, it may show accident and hospitalisation. this period may also show death for the father if native is middle aged. why ? because when the 8th gets activated, remember that it is the 12th counted from the father house which is the 9th. the 8th house is also the house of scandals and allegations while the 12th when running simultaenously can bring this scandal to the legal front and put the person behind bars. You may expand on this.

To the person who can do nakshatra based predictions , it can be just a matter of few minutes to study about the whole life of a nativity, on a single sheet of paper, and predict effectively what would happen when, and his predictions would be true upto 80% if he is good, if not more. You dont have to see any divisonal chart , because you already have the degrees to guide you, so need to draw a diagram and put the planet in it . Divisional charts are nothing but the degrees translated into diagramaatical representation for the astrologer to be more comfortable with. But once you become familiar with the art of prediction, then you dont need diagrammatical representations or charts. For instance, I rarely see the charts, but only see the degrees. Chart is automatically formed in the mind.

I have few members calling me on my personal id and sms. Please do not do this because i dont keep much friendships, and those few with whom i do, it is based totally on truthfulness in communications between us. whatever communication has to be done, let it be here on these Forums.

I leave you now to study your own charts with the above mentioned approach.

best wishes,

bhaskar.

N.B. i wished to put some more of such techniques of predictions, but i find most of the peoplle are not particvipating or excersising their brains, and everyone wishes to teach here or comment. no one wants to be a learner. For me I am going to be a learner all my Life, and also share with those interested like You did, and am still learning many techniques under guidance of people more better and learned then me who maybe My gurus or my contemporaries does not matter to me. If one has to offer learn. If you have to offer share. I have said many times before, those who learn to give , will always get.

July 31, 2008

Dear Bhaskarji,It is indeed a great writeup for the learners of predictive astrology like me. Thanks for all your effort in writing the same. I have got a small question based on this article. As you have mentioned Mars being at 13.20 to 16.40 degrees in Taurus, moon will be the nakshatra lord and through moon one can relate 2nd, 4th and 8th house. If Mars would have been in Aries, Taurus or Gemini Navamansha (and in Taurus at Lagna Chart), then also results should have been same as Mars in Taurus Navamansha, Because Nakshatra dispositor of Mars is the same Moon. This means only the Nakshatra of the planet determines the results. Am I correct in my understanding?

Thanks,ShivamOn 7/31/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote:

Dear Neelamji,My last take on this thread, no sense of waiting for more inputs. I liked the way you made efforts to understand this, by drawing a navamsa chart and understanding it personally without being told about the absence of Taurus navamsha for the watery signs . And i wish You to understand this fully, so that you need no one, no books or any other material to understand the decoding of the navamsha for - Predictive astrology. This would be my gift to a excersising mind. Others those who may be interested must read this properly, because here is shown the best technique of prediction.

Examples.For instance for a Aries nativity Mars in the 2nd house in natal chart in taurus navamsha would mean mars is having the degrees between 13.20 to 16.40 degrees. ( If mars is any other degrees it would not get taurus Navamsha) So how do we get to predictive part ? Mars is Lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 2. First of all he may have loss of wealth as well as throat problems. also elder brother of mother may have problem . also his family peace may be shattered. he may have headaches or problems related to face. Next part we must move to the degrees. This is ruled by which planet we must see . it is ruled by moon. What role does moon have to play in the Aries nativity chart ? It is ruler of the 4th house. When you connect the 4th house wuith the 8th and the 2nd. what do you get ? Problems to mother. problems related to breast or chest. this is how one predicts. i am in habit of doing this in few minutes for the whole chart because this is what i am doing for last 2 years continously. In fact one does not have to see the navamsha chart itself. you just see the degrees and start predicting. Most of my whole-life predictions to my clients are based on a single sheet of data, without any recourse needed for referring 20 charts or sheets of paper. And the nutshell of a persons life in all areas opens up just within few seconds if you believe me with the degrees chart in front of you. add a few minutes more to this and you can safelt tell the native what must have happened when in his life and what could be expected when.after all the natives do not come to us for generalisations but for predictions. I had given these results when i had laid down for the Placement of Mars in 2nd house, a few messages ago-

Not good for Mothers health or Domestic bless. If Leo and sun is afflicted then the natives heart would also be a problem after middle age. Mother can die during Mars period.

We will take another placement for the same Aries nativity. Mars placed in 6th house.again to have taurus navamsha one needs mars to be in degrees 13.20 to 16.40. mars is lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 6th. So automatic 1,6, and 8 would give give disease and surgery this point must strike the mind immediately in few seconds. But why mother may die ? the above degrees are ruled by moon who is lord of the 4th house. So connect this and you have the predictions immediately. You can expand on home , House, land property, studies etc. whatever query is put by the native, the answer would depend only on these base figures. I had given these results for the mars placement in 6th house

Will suffer operation in this period of Mars antardasha.can earn good money through insurance. Mother may dieduring this period or be hospitalised.

here why i had mentioned would earn good money through insurance ? Because the 8th house concerns death and the 6th house concerns commissions. Those astrologers who know to take advantages of such combinations in all periods can be winners. ( Astrologers can also do good with the transits if they know how to use them effectively )

I will take one last placement as an example, because i have to do my other duties too.Mars placed in 11th in natal chart for Aries nativity with taurus navamsha.

here the degrees of Mars must be between 23.20 and 26.40 to land in taurus navamsha.mars is lord of 1 and 8, placed in 11th. sounds good and bad both. good because 11th is house of gains and lagna lord placed in 11th house produces a Great dhana yoga. Is it not ? but first of all dont forget that 11th is the badhaksthana for this Lagna. next the native may have a breaking of his leg because the 11th house means portion below the knees ( calves ), the above degrees are ruled by jupiter who is Lord of 9th and 12th for this chart. now when 12th is running simultaneously with 8th, it may show accident and hospitalisation. this period may also show death for the father if native is middle aged. why ? because when the 8th gets activated, remember that it is the 12th counted from the father house which is the 9th. the 8th house is also the house of scandals and allegations while the 12th when running simultaenously can bring this scandal to the legal front and put the person behind bars. You may expand on this.

To the person who can do nakshatra based predictions , it can be just a matter of few minutes to study about the whole life of a nativity, on a single sheet of paper, and predict effectively what would happen when, and his predictions would be true upto 80% if he is good, if not more. You dont have to see any divisonal chart , because you already have the degrees to guide you, so need to draw a diagram and put the planet in it . Divisional charts are nothing but the degrees translated into diagramaatical representation for the astrologer to be more comfortable with. But once you become familiar with the art of prediction, then you dont need diagrammatical representations or charts. For instance, I rarely see the charts, but only see the degrees. Chart is automatically formed in the mind.

I have few members calling me on my personal id and sms. Please do not do this because i dont keep much friendships, and those few with whom i do, it is based totally on truthfulness in communications between us. whatever communication has to be done, let it be here on these Forums.

I leave you now to study your own charts with the above mentioned approach.best wishes,bhaskar. N.B. i wished to put some more of such techniques of predictions, but i find most of the peoplle are not particvipating or excersising their brains, and everyone wishes to teach here or comment. no one wants to be a learner. For me I am going to be a learner all my Life, and also share with those interested like You did, and am still learning many techniques under guidance of people more better and learned then me who maybe My gurus or my contemporaries does not matter to me. If one has to offer learn. If you have to offer share. I have said many times before, those who learn to give , will always get.

July 31, 2008

Dear Friends,

If Mars is placed in 11H , in Taurus Navamsa , it is bad for longevity.

Satyacharya says, " The lord of 8H in 6H,8H,and 12H,these houses thrive to a

great extent.

If lord of 8H is placed in other houses , they are destroyed.If 8HL is malefic

,then the position become even more adverse.

Though Mars is Lagna Lord , but its placement in 11H will result not in many

adversities but also curtail longevity and will give mental aversion.

Lagna Pada will fall in 9H, and placement of 8HL in 3H from Ladna-pada is

adverse for health.

Regards,

G.K.GOEL

Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

Thursday, 31 July, 2008 3:03:46 PM

Re: LL_in_Different_Amsa_Taurus

Dear Neelamji,

My last take on this thread, no sense of waiting for more inputs. Â I liked the

way you made efforts to understand this, by drawing a navamsa chart and

understanding it personally without being told about the absence of Taurus

navamsha for the watery signs . And i wish You to understand this fully, so that

you need no one, no books or any other material to understand the decoding of

the navamsha for - Predictive astrology. This would be my gift to a excersising

mind. Others those who may be interested must read this properly, because here

is shown the best technique of prediction.

Examples.

For instance for a Aries nativity Mars in the 2nd house in natal chart in taurus

navamsha would mean mars is having the degrees between 13.20 to 16.40 degrees. (

If mars is any other degrees it would not get taurus Navamsha) So how do we get

to predictive partÂ ? Mars is Lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 2. First of all he

may have loss of wealth as well as throat problems. also elder brother of mother

may have problem . also his family peace may be shattered. he may have headaches

or problems related to face.Â Next part we must move to theÂ degrees. This is

ruled by which planet we must see . it is ruled by moon. What role does moon

have to play in the AriesÂ nativity chart ? It is ruler of the 4th house.Â When

you connect the 4th house wuith the 8th and the 2nd. what do you get ? Problems

to mother. problems related to breast or chest.Â this is how one predicts. i am

in habit of doing this inÂ few minutes for the whole chart because this is what

i

am doing for last 2 years continously. In fact one does not have to see the

navamsha chart itself. you just see the degrees and start predicting. Most of my

whole-life predictions to my clients are based on a single sheet of data,

without any recourse needed for referring 20 charts or sheets of paper. And the

nutshell of a persons life in all areas opens up just within few seconds if you

believe me with the degrees chart in front of you. add a few minutes more to

this and you can safelt tell the native what must have happened when in his life

and what could be expected when.after all the natives do not come to us for

generalisations but for predictions. I had given these results when i had laid

down for the Placement of Mars in 2nd house, a few messages ago-

Not good for Mothers health or Domestic bless.

If Leo and sun is afflicted then the natives heart would also be a problem after

middle age. Mother can die during Mars period.

We will take another placement for the same Aries nativity.

Mars placed in 6th house.

again to have taurus navamsha one needs mars to be in degrees 13.20 to 16.40.

mars is lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 6th. So automatic 1,6, and 8 would give

give disease and surgery this point must strike the mind immediately in few

seconds. But why mother may dieÂ? the above degrees are ruled by moon who is

lord of the 4th house. So connect this and you have the predictions immediately.

You can expand on home , House,land property, studies etc. whatever query is put

by the native, the answer would depend only on these base figures. I had given

these results for the mars placement in 6th house

Will suffer operation in this period of Mars antardasha.

can earn good money through insurance. Mother may die

during this period or be hospitalised.

here why i had mentioned would earn good money through insurance? Because the

8th house concerns death and the 6th house concerns commissions.Â Those

astrologers who know to take advantages of such combinations in all periods can

be winners. ( Astrologers can also do good with the transits if they know how to

use them effectively )

I will take one last placement as an example, because i have to do my other

duties too.

Mars placed in 11th in natal chart for Aries nativity with taurus navamsha.

here the degrees of Mars must be between 23.20 and 26.40 to land in taurus

navamsha.

mars is lord of 1 and 8, placed in 11th. sounds good and bad both. good because

11th is house of gains and lagna lord placed in 11th house produces a Great

dhana yoga. Is it notÂ ? but first of all dont forget that 11th is the

badhaksthana for this Lagna. next the native may have a breaking of his leg

because the 11th house means portion below the kneesÂ ( calves ), the above

degrees are ruled by jupiter who is Lord of 9th and 12th for this chart.Â now

whenÂ 12th is running simultaneously with 8th, it may show accident and

hospitalisation.Â this period may also show death for the father if native is

middle aged. why ? because when the 8th gets activated, remember that it is the

12th counted from the father house which is the 9th. the 8th house is also the

house of scandals and allegations while the 12th when running simultaenously can

bring this scandal to the legal front and put the person behind bars. You may

expand on this.

To the person who can do nakshatra based predictions , it can be just a matter

of few minutes to study about the whole life of a nativity, on a single sheet of

paper, and predict effectively what would happen when, and his predictions would

be true upto 80% if he is good, if not more. You dont have to see any divisonal

chart , because you already have the degrees to guide you, so need to draw

aÂ diagram and put the planet in it . Divisional charts are nothing but the

degrees translated into diagramaatical representation for the astrologer to be

more comfortable with. But once you become familiar with the art of prediction,

then you dont need diagrammatical representations or charts. For instance, I

rarely see the charts, but only see the degrees. Chart is automatically formed

in the mind.

I have few members calling me on my personal id and sms. Please do not do this

because i dont keep much friendships, and those few with whom i do, it is based

totally on truthfulness in communications between us. whatever communication has

to be done, let it be here on these Forums.

I leave you now to study your own charts with the above mentioned approach.

best wishes,

bhaskar.

N.B. i wished to put some more of such techniques of predictions, but i find

most of the peoplle are not particvipating or excersising their brains, and

everyone wishes to teach here or comment. no one wants to be a learner. For me

I am going to be a learner all my Life, and also share with those interested

like You did, and am still learning many techniques under guidance of people

more better and learned then me who maybe My gurus or my contemporaries does not

matter to me. If one has to offer learn. If you have to offer share. I have

said many times before, those who learn to give , will always get.

July 31, 2008

Dear Shivamji,

My efforts in posting a write-up pays, when somebody reads that and applies the same. Thank You.

Now coming to your query. Yes the nakshatra dispositor is the planet which would actually show what the results any planet would give. The planet would show the source .

Imaginary example

Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th house and in naskhatra of Venus. Now venus is the lord of 6th house and 11th house. so the results would be Money, gains through property or commissions related to property. Because 6th shows money received due to transaction or services, and 11th shows gains.

Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in nakshatra of venus. The results would be the same. Commissions and money received. But the source would change. Because now saturn is is placed inthe 3rd house which denotes writing, communications, computers, author, wriiten artcilces, novels, printing etc. So the native would earn Money certainly, but now the source would change.

In the same way you can treat for Moon as asked in your query.

Any astrologer who understands this does not need, any Chart or lengthy explanations or hundreds of rules, or contradictions or many books to check results. Commonsense,practise and logic is needed in the analysis alongwith intuitions.

Mars 140 degrees 20 minutes 40 seconds placed in 5th house should be enough for a good practioner of this science , to predict the results in few seconds ( Not minutes ), what others may take 2 days to give after spending hours and hours of their time and efforts in multitudes of various divisional charts and applying of hundreds of rules. Because the above info encases, Lagna, navamsha details, and also much smaller divisions of the divisional charts too, for any keen astrological mind.

And one does not need paper, pen or books to predict. one can even calculate the Vimsottari dasha on fingers, and everything else said above, if he is given the above small information, which is enough.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, "Shivam Omar" <oshivam wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,> It is indeed a great writeup for the learners of predictive astrology like> me. Thanks for all your effort in writing the same. I have got a small> question based on this article. As you have mentioned Mars being at 13.20 to> 16.40 degrees in Taurus, moon will be the nakshatra lord and through moon> one can relate 2nd, 4th and 8th house. If Mars would have been in Aries,> Taurus or Gemini Navamansha (and in Taurus at Lagna Chart), then also> results should have been same as Mars in Taurus Navamansha, Because> Nakshatra dispositor of Mars is the same Moon. This means only the Nakshatra> of the planet determines the results. Am I correct in my understanding?> > Thanks,> Shivam> > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises wrote:> >> > Dear Neelamji,> >> > My last take on this thread, no sense of waiting for more inputs. I liked> > the way you made efforts to understand this, by drawing a navamsa chart and> > understanding it personally without being told about the absence of Taurus> > navamsha for the watery signs . And i wish You to understand this fully, so> > that you need no one, no books or any other material to understand the> > decoding of the navamsha for - Predictive astrology. This would be my gift> > to a excersising mind. Others those who may be interested must read this> > properly, because here is shown the best technique of prediction.> >> > *Examples.*> >> > For instance for a Aries nativity Mars in the 2nd house in natal chart in> > taurus navamsha would mean mars is having the degrees between 13.20 to 16.40> > degrees. ( If mars is any other degrees it would not get taurus Navamsha) So> > how do we get to predictive part ? Mars is Lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 2.> > First of all he may have loss of wealth as well as throat problems. also> > elder brother of mother may have problem . also his family peace may be> > shattered. he may have headaches or problems related to face. Next part we> > must move to the degrees. This is ruled by which planet we must see . it is> > ruled by moon. What role does moon have to play in the Aries nativity chart> > ? It is ruler of the 4th house. When you connect the 4th house wuith the> > 8th and the 2nd. what do you get ? Problems to mother. problems related to> > breast or chest. this is how one predicts. i am in habit of doing this> > in few minutes for the whole chart because this is what i am doing for last> > 2 years continously. In fact one does not have to see the navamsha chart> > itself. you just see the degrees and start predicting. Most of my whole-life> > predictions to my clients are based on a single sheet of data, without any> > recourse needed for referring 20 charts or sheets of paper. And the nutshell> > of a persons life in all areas opens up just within few seconds if you> > believe me with the degrees chart in front of you. add a few minutes more to> > this and you can safelt tell the native what must have happened when in his> > life and what could be expected when.after all the natives do not come to us> > for generalisations but for predictions. I had given these results when i> > had laid down for the Placement of Mars in 2nd house, a few messages ago-> > Not good for Mothers health or Domestic bless.> > If Leo and sun is afflicted then the natives heart would also be a problem> > after middle age. Mother can die during Mars period.> >> > *We will take another placement for the same Aries nativity. *> >> > Mars placed in 6th house.> >> > again to have taurus navamsha one needs mars to be in degrees 13.20 to> > 16.40. mars is lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 6th. So automatic 1,6, and 8> > would give give disease and surgery this point must strike the mind> > immediately in few seconds. But why mother may die ? the above degrees are> > ruled by moon who is lord of the 4th house. So connect this and you have the> > predictions immediately. You can expand on home , House, land property,> > studies etc. whatever query is put by the native, the answer would depend> > only on these base figures. I had given these results for the mars placement> > in 6th house> > Will suffer operation in this period of Mars antardasha.> > can earn good money through insurance. Mother may die> > during this period or be hospitalised.> > here why i had mentioned would earn good money through insurance ? Because> > the 8th house concerns death and the 6th house concerns commissions. Those> > astrologers who know to take advantages of such combinations in all periods> > can be winners. ( Astrologers can also do good with the transits if they> > know how to use them effectively )> >> > *I will take one last placement as an example, because i have to do my> > other duties too.*> >> > Mars placed in 11th in natal chart for Aries nativity with taurus navamsha.> >> > here the degrees of Mars must be between 23.20 and 26.40 to land in taurus> > navamsha.> >> > mars is lord of 1 and 8, placed in 11th. sounds good and bad both. good> > because 11th is house of gains and lagna lord placed in 11th house produces> > a Great dhana yoga. Is it not ? but first of all dont forget that 11th is> > the badhaksthana for this Lagna. next the native may have a breaking of his> > leg because the 11th house means portion below the knees ( calves ), the> > above degrees are ruled by jupiter who is Lord of 9th and 12th for this> > chart. now when 12th is running simultaneously with 8th, it may show> > accident and hospitalisation. this period may also show death for the> > father if native is middle aged. why ? because when the 8th gets activated,> > remember that it is the 12th counted from the father house which is the> > 9th. the 8th house is also the house of scandals and allegations while the> > 12th when running simultaenously can bring this scandal to the legal front> > and put the person behind bars. You may expand on this.> >> > To the person who can do nakshatra based predictions , it can be just a> > matter of few minutes to study about the whole life of a nativity, on a> > single sheet of paper, and predict effectively what would happen when, and> > his predictions would be true upto 80% if he is good, if not more. You dont> > have to see any divisonal chart , because you already have the degrees to> > guide you, so need to draw a diagram and put the planet in it . Divisional> > charts are nothing but the degrees translated into diagramaatical> > representation for the astrologer to be more comfortable with. But once you> > become familiar with the art of prediction, then you dont need> > diagrammatical representations or charts. For instance, I rarely see the> > charts, but only see the degrees. Chart is automatically formed in the mind.> >> >> > I have few members calling me on my personal id and sms. Please do not do> > this because i dont keep much friendships, and those few with whom i do, it> > is based totally on truthfulness in communications between us. whatever> > communication has to be done, let it be here on these Forums.> >> > I leave you now to study your own charts with the above mentioned approach.> >> > best wishes,> >> > bhaskar.> >> > *N.B.* i wished to put some more of such techniques of predictions, but i> > find most of the peoplle are not particvipating or excersising their brains,> > and everyone wishes to teach here or comment. no one wants to be a learner.> > For me I am going to be a learner all my Life, and also share with those> > interested like You did, and am still learning many techniques under> > guidance of people more better and learned then me who maybe My gurus or my> > contemporaries does not matter to me. If one has to offer learn. If you have> > to offer share. I have said many times before, those who learn to give ,> > will always get.> >> >> >> >> > > >>

July 31, 2008

Dear Bhaskarji,

Appreciate all your kind efforts

//Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th house

and in naskhatra of Venus//

//Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in

nakshatra of venus//

To use your IMAGINARY example as above, I would drop that " lagna in

sagittarius " , for neither in 3rd or 4th to sagittarius, there exists a

venusian constellation, I like to imagine logical charts

Regards,

bhagavathi

July 31, 2008

Dear Bhaskar ji,

"Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th house and in naskhatra of Venus. Now venus is the lord of 6th house and 11th house. so the results would be Money, gains through property or commissions related to property. Because 6th shows money received due to transaction or services, and 11th shows gains.

Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in nakshatra of venus. The results would be the same. Commissions and money received. But the source would change. Because now saturn is is placed inthe 3rd house which denotes writing, communications, computers, author, wriiten artcilces, novels, printing etc. So the native would earn Money certainly, but now the source would change."

I thank you for the clarity of the above explanation. Since my astro knowledge is minimal, kindly tell me in the above cases, would not the placement of Venus has any affect on Jupiter or on Saturn? Do we have to consider only the houses owned by Venus - the nakshastra lord of Ju & Sa in the example given?

blessings

Renu

, "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises wrote:>> > Dear Shivamji,> > My efforts in posting a write-up pays, when somebody reads that and> applies the same. Thank You.> > Now coming to your query. Yes the nakshatra dispositor is the planet> which would actually show what the results any planet would give. The> planet would show the source .> > Imaginary example> > Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th house and> in naskhatra of Venus. Now venus is the lord of 6th house and 11th> house. so the results would be Money, gains through property or> commissions related to property. Because 6th shows money received due to> transaction or services, and 11th shows gains.> > Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in nakshatra> of venus. The results would be the same. Commissions and money> received. But the source would change. Because now saturn is is placed> inthe 3rd house which denotes writing, communications, computers,> author, wriiten artcilces, novels, printing etc. So the native would> earn Money certainly, but now the source would change.> > In the same way you can treat for Moon as asked in your query.> > Any astrologer who understands this does not need, any Chart or lengthy> explanations or hundreds of rules, or contradictions or many books to> check results. Commonsense,practise and logic is needed in the analysis> alongwith intuitions.> > Mars 140 degrees 20 minutes 40 seconds placed in 5th house should be> enough for a good practioner of this science , to predict the results in> few seconds ( Not minutes ), what others may take 2 days to give after> spending hours and hours of their time and efforts in multitudes of> various divisional charts and applying of hundreds of rules. Because> the above info encases, Lagna, navamsha details, and also much smaller> divisions of the divisional charts too, for any keen astrological mind.> > And one does not need paper, pen or books to predict. one can even> calculate the Vimsottari dasha on fingers, and everything else said> above, if he is given the above small information, which is enough.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > , "Shivam Omar"> oshivam@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskarji,> > It is indeed a great writeup for the learners of predictive astrology> like> > me. Thanks for all your effort in writing the same. I have got a small> > question based on this article. As you have mentioned Mars being at> 13.20 to> > 16.40 degrees in Taurus, moon will be the nakshatra lord and through> moon> > one can relate 2nd, 4th and 8th house. If Mars would have been in> Aries,> > Taurus or Gemini Navamansha (and in Taurus at Lagna Chart), then also> > results should have been same as Mars in Taurus Navamansha, Because> > Nakshatra dispositor of Mars is the same Moon. This means only the> Nakshatra> > of the planet determines the results. Am I correct in my> understanding?> >> > Thanks,> > Shivam> >> > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Neelamji,> > >> > > My last take on this thread, no sense of waiting for more inputs. I> liked> > > the way you made efforts to understand this, by drawing a navamsa> chart and> > > understanding it personally without being told about the absence of> Taurus> > > navamsha for the watery signs . And i wish You to understand this> fully, so> > > that you need no one, no books or any other material to understand> the> > > decoding of the navamsha for - Predictive astrology. This would be> my gift> > > to a excersising mind. Others those who may be interested must read> this> > > properly, because here is shown the best technique of prediction.> > >> > > *Examples.*> > >> > > For instance for a Aries nativity Mars in the 2nd house in natal> chart in> > > taurus navamsha would mean mars is having the degrees between 13.20> to 16.40> > > degrees. ( If mars is any other degrees it would not get taurus> Navamsha) So> > > how do we get to predictive part ? Mars is Lord of 1 and 8 and> placed in 2.> > > First of all he may have loss of wealth as well as throat problems.> also> > > elder brother of mother may have problem . also his family peace may> be> > > shattered. he may have headaches or problems related to face. Next> part we> > > must move to the degrees. This is ruled by which planet we must see> . it is> > > ruled by moon. What role does moon have to play in the Aries> nativity chart> > > ? It is ruler of the 4th house. When you connect the 4th house wuith> the> > > 8th and the 2nd. what do you get ? Problems to mother. problems> related to> > > breast or chest. this is how one predicts. i am in habit of doing> this> > > in few minutes for the whole chart because this is what i am doing> for last> > > 2 years continously. In fact one does not have to see the navamsha> chart> > > itself. you just see the degrees and start predicting. Most of my> whole-life> > > predictions to my clients are based on a single sheet of data,> without any> > > recourse needed for referring 20 charts or sheets of paper. And the> nutshell> > > of a persons life in all areas opens up just within few seconds if> you> > > believe me with the degrees chart in front of you. add a few minutes> more to> > > this and you can safelt tell the native what must have happened when> in his> > > life and what could be expected when.after all the natives do not> come to us> > > for generalisations but for predictions. I had given these results> when i> > > had laid down for the Placement of Mars in 2nd house, a few messages> ago-> > > Not good for Mothers health or Domestic bless.> > > If Leo and sun is afflicted then the natives heart would also be a> problem> > > after middle age. Mother can die during Mars period.> > >> > > *We will take another placement for the same Aries nativity. *> > >> > > Mars placed in 6th house.> > >> > > again to have taurus navamsha one needs mars to be in degrees 13.20> to> > > 16.40. mars is lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 6th. So automatic 1,6,> and 8> > > would give give disease and surgery this point must strike the mind> > > immediately in few seconds. But why mother may die ? the above> degrees are> > > ruled by moon who is lord of the 4th house. So connect this and you> have the> > > predictions immediately. You can expand on home , House, land> property,> > > studies etc. whatever query is put by the native, the answer would> depend> > > only on these base figures. I had given these results for the mars> placement> > > in 6th house> > > Will suffer operation in this period of Mars antardasha.> > > can earn good money through insurance. Mother may die> > > during this period or be hospitalised.> > > here why i had mentioned would earn good money through insurance ?> Because> > > the 8th house concerns death and the 6th house concerns commissions.> Those> > > astrologers who know to take advantages of such combinations in all> periods> > > can be winners. ( Astrologers can also do good with the transits if> they> > > know how to use them effectively )> > >> > > *I will take one last placement as an example, because i have to do> my> > > other duties too.*> > >> > > Mars placed in 11th in natal chart for Aries nativity with taurus> navamsha.> > >> > > here the degrees of Mars must be between 23.20 and 26.40 to land in> taurus> > > navamsha.> > >> > > mars is lord of 1 and 8, placed in 11th. sounds good and bad both.> good> > > because 11th is house of gains and lagna lord placed in 11th house> produces> > > a Great dhana yoga. Is it not ? but first of all dont forget that> 11th is> > > the badhaksthana for this Lagna. next the native may have a breaking> of his> > > leg because the 11th house means portion below the knees ( calves ),> the> > > above degrees are ruled by jupiter who is Lord of 9th and 12th for> this> > > chart. now when 12th is running simultaneously with 8th, it may show> > > accident and hospitalisation. this period may also show death for> the> > > father if native is middle aged. why ? because when the 8th gets> activated,> > > remember that it is the 12th counted from the father house which is> the> > > 9th. the 8th house is also the house of scandals and allegations> while the> > > 12th when running simultaenously can bring this scandal to the legal> front> > > and put the person behind bars. You may expand on this.> > >> > > To the person who can do nakshatra based predictions , it can be> just a> > > matter of few minutes to study about the whole life of a nativity,> on a> > > single sheet of paper, and predict effectively what would happen> when, and> > > his predictions would be true upto 80% if he is good, if not more.> You dont> > > have to see any divisonal chart , because you already have the> degrees to> > > guide you, so need to draw a diagram and put the planet in it .> Divisional> > > charts are nothing but the degrees translated into diagramaatical> > > representation for the astrologer to be more comfortable with. But> once you> > > become familiar with the art of prediction, then you dont need> > > diagrammatical representations or charts. For instance, I rarely see> the> > > charts, but only see the degrees. Chart is automatically formed in> the mind.> > >> > >> > > I have few members calling me on my personal id and sms. Please do> not do> > > this because i dont keep much friendships, and those few with whom i> do, it> > > is based totally on truthfulness in communications between us.> whatever> > > communication has to be done, let it be here on these Forums.> > >> > > I leave you now to study your own charts with the above mentioned> approach.> > >> > > best wishes,> > >> > > bhaskar.> > >> > > *N.B.* i wished to put some more of such techniques of predictions,> but i> > > find most of the peoplle are not particvipating or excersising their> brains,> > > and everyone wishes to teach here or comment. no one wants to be a> learner.> > > For me I am going to be a learner all my Life, and also share with> those> > > interested like You did, and am still learning many techniques under> > > guidance of people more better and learned then me who maybe My> gurus or my> > > contemporaries does not matter to me. If one has to offer learn. If> you have> > > to offer share. I have said many times before, those who learn to> give ,> > > will always get.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >>

July 31, 2008

Madam,

Why do you people search for torn pockets in someones hard work , instead of trying to contribute is very sad.

i dont understand why the need to criticse a imaginary example and try to look for logic in that placement.

Take hold of the rules i am trying to put forth. just see the principle behind that example.

I have already mentioned that its an imaginary example so why the need to talk about, what you did. I had envisaged before, that that someone of your tribe ( Tribe of criticsiers ) would come forward to look for negative loose pockets and comment, which is why I kept myself safe by mentioning " Imaginary example ".

When we come to answering you, then i will try to search for logic , right now i have answered another gentleman and hope he understood what I was trying to say.

Please come up with something to share instead of attacking anyone trying to share. I belive you are discipel of shri sunil Nairji, and expect better behaviour from you

That post was not in good taste, I must say.

Come up with some smarter observations in astrology, and from your own side, instead of commenting adverse on anothers creation, where it does not make sense, because this is the first time I mentioned "Imaginary example " otherwise uptil now I have either mentioned just " Example " or " Example 1 " .......2 .etc.

Bhaskar.

, "bhagavathi_hariharan" <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,> > Appreciate all your kind efforts> > //Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th house > and in naskhatra of Venus//> > //Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in > nakshatra of venus//> > To use your IMAGINARY example as above, I would drop that "lagna in > sagittarius", for neither in 3rd or 4th to sagittarius, there exists a > venusian constellation, I like to imagine logical charts> > Regards,> > bhagavathi>

July 31, 2008

Dear renuji,

beautiful. My efforts are really paying now. God will surely bless me for sharing, as He always does. . Your mail shows that members are reading and trying to understand and, APPLY.

You are absolutely right. The placement of Venus would certainly either enhance the benefic results mentioned or reduce them.

Consider same as always for all other planets.

I could not mention that, since we were not taking up any real chart or combination, but just being specific uptil the data given.

Which is why in the starting I requested Shri Sreeramji to give me the placement for the planet Mars.

the planet as source where it is placed, and the constellation owner where it is placed would add to the results.

Good, I am satisfied now. One member is complete with her information on above, and can start predicting much better now then before.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, "renunw" <renunw wrote:>> > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > "Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th house> and in naskhatra of Venus. Now venus is the lord of 6th house and 11th> house. so the results would be Money, gains through property or> commissions related to property. Because 6th shows money received due to> transaction or services, and 11th shows gains.> > Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in nakshatra> of venus. The results would be the same. Commissions and money> received. But the source would change. Because now saturn is is placed> inthe 3rd house which denotes writing, communications, computers,> author, wriiten artcilces, novels, printing etc. So the native would> earn Money certainly, but now the source would change."> > I thank you for the clarity of the above explanation. Since my astro> knowledge is minimal, kindly tell me in the above cases, would not the> placement of Venus has any affect on Jupiter or on Saturn? Do we have to> consider only the houses owned by Venus - the nakshastra lord of Ju & Sa> in the example given?> > blessings> > Renu> > > > > > > , "Bhaskar"> rajiventerprises@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Shivamji,> >> > My efforts in posting a write-up pays, when somebody reads that and> > applies the same. Thank You.> >> > Now coming to your query. Yes the nakshatra dispositor is the planet> > which would actually show what the results any planet would give. The> > planet would show the source .> >> > Imaginary example> >> > Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th house> and> > in naskhatra of Venus. Now venus is the lord of 6th house and 11th> > house. so the results would be Money, gains through property or> > commissions related to property. Because 6th shows money received due> to> > transaction or services, and 11th shows gains.> >> > Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in> nakshatra> > of venus. The results would be the same. Commissions and money> > received. But the source would change. Because now saturn is is placed> > inthe 3rd house which denotes writing, communications, computers,> > author, wriiten artcilces, novels, printing etc. So the native would> > earn Money certainly, but now the source would change.> >> > In the same way you can treat for Moon as asked in your query.> >> > Any astrologer who understands this does not need, any Chart or> lengthy> > explanations or hundreds of rules, or contradictions or many books to> > check results. Commonsense,practise and logic is needed in the> analysis> > alongwith intuitions.> >> > Mars 140 degrees 20 minutes 40 seconds placed in 5th house should be> > enough for a good practioner of this science , to predict the results> in> > few seconds ( Not minutes ), what others may take 2 days to give after> > spending hours and hours of their time and efforts in multitudes of> > various divisional charts and applying of hundreds of rules. Because> > the above info encases, Lagna, navamsha details, and also much smaller> > divisions of the divisional charts too, for any keen astrological> mind.> >> > And one does not need paper, pen or books to predict. one can even> > calculate the Vimsottari dasha on fingers, and everything else said> > above, if he is given the above small information, which is enough.> >> > regards,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "Shivam Omar"> > oshivam@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > > It is indeed a great writeup for the learners of predictive> astrology> > like> > > me. Thanks for all your effort in writing the same. I have got a> small> > > question based on this article. As you have mentioned Mars being at> > 13.20 to> > > 16.40 degrees in Taurus, moon will be the nakshatra lord and through> > moon> > > one can relate 2nd, 4th and 8th house. If Mars would have been in> > Aries,> > > Taurus or Gemini Navamansha (and in Taurus at Lagna Chart), then> also> > > results should have been same as Mars in Taurus Navamansha, Because> > > Nakshatra dispositor of Mars is the same Moon. This means only the> > Nakshatra> > > of the planet determines the results. Am I correct in my> > understanding?> > >> > > Thanks,> > > Shivam> > >> > > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Neelamji,> > > >> > > > My last take on this thread, no sense of waiting for more inputs.> I> > liked> > > > the way you made efforts to understand this, by drawing a navamsa> > chart and> > > > understanding it personally without being told about the absence> of> > Taurus> > > > navamsha for the watery signs . And i wish You to understand this> > fully, so> > > > that you need no one, no books or any other material to understand> > the> > > > decoding of the navamsha for - Predictive astrology. This would be> > my gift> > > > to a excersising mind. Others those who may be interested must> read> > this> > > > properly, because here is shown the best technique of prediction.> > > >> > > > *Examples.*> > > >> > > > For instance for a Aries nativity Mars in the 2nd house in natal> > chart in> > > > taurus navamsha would mean mars is having the degrees between> 13.20> > to 16.40> > > > degrees. ( If mars is any other degrees it would not get taurus> > Navamsha) So> > > > how do we get to predictive part ? Mars is Lord of 1 and 8 and> > placed in 2.> > > > First of all he may have loss of wealth as well as throat> problems.> > also> > > > elder brother of mother may have problem . also his family peace> may> > be> > > > shattered. he may have headaches or problems related to face. Next> > part we> > > > must move to the degrees. This is ruled by which planet we must> see> > . it is> > > > ruled by moon. What role does moon have to play in the Aries> > nativity chart> > > > ? It is ruler of the 4th house. When you connect the 4th house> wuith> > the> > > > 8th and the 2nd. what do you get ? Problems to mother. problems> > related to> > > > breast or chest. this is how one predicts. i am in habit of doing> > this> > > > in few minutes for the whole chart because this is what i am doing> > for last> > > > 2 years continously. In fact one does not have to see the navamsha> > chart> > > > itself. you just see the degrees and start predicting. Most of my> > whole-life> > > > predictions to my clients are based on a single sheet of data,> > without any> > > > recourse needed for referring 20 charts or sheets of paper. And> the> > nutshell> > > > of a persons life in all areas opens up just within few seconds if> > you> > > > believe me with the degrees chart in front of you. add a few> minutes> > more to> > > > this and you can safelt tell the native what must have happened> when> > in his> > > > life and what could be expected when.after all the natives do not> > come to us> > > > for generalisations but for predictions. I had given these results> > when i> > > > had laid down for the Placement of Mars in 2nd house, a few> messages> > ago-> > > > Not good for Mothers health or Domestic bless.> > > > If Leo and sun is afflicted then the natives heart would also be a> > problem> > > > after middle age. Mother can die during Mars period.> > > >> > > > *We will take another placement for the same Aries nativity. *> > > >> > > > Mars placed in 6th house.> > > >> > > > again to have taurus navamsha one needs mars to be in degrees> 13.20> > to> > > > 16.40. mars is lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 6th. So automatic> 1,6,> > and 8> > > > would give give disease and surgery this point must strike the> mind> > > > immediately in few seconds. But why mother may die ? the above> > degrees are> > > > ruled by moon who is lord of the 4th house. So connect this and> you> > have the> > > > predictions immediately. You can expand on home , House, land> > property,> > > > studies etc. whatever query is put by the native, the answer would> > depend> > > > only on these base figures. I had given these results for the mars> > placement> > > > in 6th house> > > > Will suffer operation in this period of Mars antardasha.> > > > can earn good money through insurance. Mother may die> > > > during this period or be hospitalised.> > > > here why i had mentioned would earn good money through insurance ?> > Because> > > > the 8th house concerns death and the 6th house concerns> commissions.> > Those> > > > astrologers who know to take advantages of such combinations in> all> > periods> > > > can be winners. ( Astrologers can also do good with the transits> if> > they> > > > know how to use them effectively )> > > >> > > > *I will take one last placement as an example, because i have to> do> > my> > > > other duties too.*> > > >> > > > Mars placed in 11th in natal chart for Aries nativity with taurus> > navamsha.> > > >> > > > here the degrees of Mars must be between 23.20 and 26.40 to land> in> > taurus> > > > navamsha.> > > >> > > > mars is lord of 1 and 8, placed in 11th. sounds good and bad both.> > good> > > > because 11th is house of gains and lagna lord placed in 11th house> > produces> > > > a Great dhana yoga. Is it not ? but first of all dont forget that> > 11th is> > > > the badhaksthana for this Lagna. next the native may have a> breaking> > of his> > > > leg because the 11th house means portion below the knees ( calves> ),> > the> > > > above degrees are ruled by jupiter who is Lord of 9th and 12th for> > this> > > > chart. now when 12th is running simultaneously with 8th, it may> show> > > > accident and hospitalisation. this period may also show death for> > the> > > > father if native is middle aged. why ? because when the 8th gets> > activated,> > > > remember that it is the 12th counted from the father house which> is> > the> > > > 9th. the 8th house is also the house of scandals and allegations> > while the> > > > 12th when running simultaenously can bring this scandal to the> legal> > front> > > > and put the person behind bars. You may expand on this.> > > >> > > > To the person who can do nakshatra based predictions , it can be> > just a> > > > matter of few minutes to study about the whole life of a nativity,> > on a> > > > single sheet of paper, and predict effectively what would happen> > when, and> > > > his predictions would be true upto 80% if he is good, if not more.> > You dont> > > > have to see any divisonal chart , because you already have the> > degrees to> > > > guide you, so need to draw a diagram and put the planet in it .> > Divisional> > > > charts are nothing but the degrees translated into diagramaatical> > > > representation for the astrologer to be more comfortable with. But> > once you> > > > become familiar with the art of prediction, then you dont need> > > > diagrammatical representations or charts. For instance, I rarely> see> > the> > > > charts, but only see the degrees. Chart is automatically formed in> > the mind.> > > >> > > >> > > > I have few members calling me on my personal id and sms. Please do> > not do> > > > this because i dont keep much friendships, and those few with whom> i> > do, it> > > > is based totally on truthfulness in communications between us.> > whatever> > > > communication has to be done, let it be here on these Forums.> > > >> > > > I leave you now to study your own charts with the above mentioned> > approach.> > > >> > > > best wishes,> > > >> > > > bhaskar.> > > >> > > > *N.B.* i wished to put some more of such techniques of> predictions,> > but i> > > > find most of the peoplle are not particvipating or excersising> their> > brains,> > > > and everyone wishes to teach here or comment. no one wants to be a> > learner.> > > > For me I am going to be a learner all my Life, and also share with> > those> > > > interested like You did, and am still learning many techniques> under> > > > guidance of people more better and learned then me who maybe My> > gurus or my> > > > contemporaries does not matter to me. If one has to offer learn.> If> > you have> > > > to offer share. I have said many times before, those who learn to> > give ,> > > > will always get.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >>

July 31, 2008

Dear Bhagwathiji,

in the evening when a man comes home at 8.00 or 9.00 from office, then one does not wish to use his brains much. dimaag lagane ki utni taakat nahi hoti hai, and one wishes to use it only on the point focused, which is why i did not go for the prelimnary checking of statistics and played safe by mentioning what I did, but was serious on the part which i wished to convey.

hope you understand.....

Bhaskar.

, "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises wrote:>> > Madam,> > Why do you people search for torn pockets in someones hard work ,> instead of trying to contribute is very sad.> > i dont understand why the need to criticse a imaginary example and try> to look for logic in that placement.> > Take hold of the rules i am trying to put forth. just see the principle> behind that example.> > I have already mentioned that its an imaginary example so why the need> to talk about, what you did. I had envisaged before, that that someone> of your tribe ( Tribe of criticsiers ) would come forward to look for> negative loose pockets and comment, which is why I kept myself safe by> mentioning " Imaginary example ".> > When we come to answering you, then i will try to search for logic ,> right now i have answered another gentleman and hope he understood what> I was trying to say.> > Please come up with something to share instead of attacking anyone> trying to share. I belive you are discipel of shri sunil Nairji, and> expect better behaviour from you> > That post was not in good taste, I must say.> > Come up with some smarter observations in astrology, and from your own> side, instead of commenting adverse on anothers creation, where it does> not make sense, because this is the first time I mentioned "Imaginary> example " otherwise uptil now I have either mentioned just " Example "> or " Example 1 " .......2 .etc.> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > , "bhagavathi_hariharan"> bhagavathi_hariharan@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskarji,> >> > Appreciate all your kind efforts> >> > //Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th house> > and in naskhatra of Venus//> >> > //Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in> > nakshatra of venus//> >> > To use your IMAGINARY example as above, I would drop that "lagna in> > sagittarius", for neither in 3rd or 4th to sagittarius, there exists a> > venusian constellation, I like to imagine logical charts> >> > Regards,> >> > bhagavathi> >>

July 31, 2008

Respected Bhaskarji,

Not a problem. When I started reading that or anything like that, i

usually make a picture in my mind, my mind did not go beyond, it

stumbled there itself. If nobody brought this out your tribe would

citicize our tribe(my tribe is actually student tribe, not that of a

critic)saying that

" I made a mistake in my earlier post, nobody is paying attention to

it, looks like no body is interested in what I write, so i am

quitting the group "

Yes, I am Sunilji's student only but also respect your presence in

this group.

Regards,

bhagavathi

, " Bhaskar "

<rajiventerprises wrote:

>

> Madam,

>

> Why do you people search for torn pockets in someones hard work ,

> instead of trying to contribute is very sad.

>

> i dont understand why the need to criticse a imaginary example and

try

> to look for logic in that placement.

>

> Take hold of the rules i am trying to put forth. just see the

principle

> behind that example.

>

> I have already mentioned that its an imaginary example so why the

need

> to talk about, what you did. I had envisaged before, that that

someone

> of your tribe ( Tribe of criticsiers ) would come forward to look

for

> negative loose pockets and comment, which is why I kept myself safe

by

> mentioning " Imaginary example " .

>

> When we come to answering you, then i will try to search for logic ,

> right now i have answered another gentleman and hope he understood

what

> I was trying to say.

>

> Please come up with something to share instead of attacking anyone

> trying to share. I belive you are discipel of shri sunil Nairji, and

> expect better behaviour from you

>

> That post was not in good taste, I must say.

>

> Come up with some smarter observations in astrology, and from your

own

> side, instead of commenting adverse on anothers creation, where it

does

> not make sense, because this is the first time I

mentioned " Imaginary

> example " otherwise uptil now I have either mentioned just "

Example "

> or " Example 1 " .......2 .etc.

>

> Bhaskar.

--- In

, " bhagavathi_hariharan "

> <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskarji,

> >

> > Appreciate all your kind efforts

> >

> > //Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th

house

> > and in naskhatra of Venus//

> >

> > //Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in

> > nakshatra of venus//

> >

> > To use your IMAGINARY example as above, I would drop that " lagna

in

> > sagittarius " , for neither in 3rd or 4th to sagittarius, there

exists a

> > venusian constellation, I like to imagine logical charts

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > bhagavathi

> >

>

July 31, 2008

Dear Bhaskar ji,

Thanks for the nice comments and also for claryfing my querie. As a

matter of fact I am sure members do read your posts rich with

knowldege & endowed with clarity.

Yes, God will always bless good people whether they ask for 'his'

blessings or not

blessings,

Renu

, " Bhaskar "

<rajiventerprises wrote:

>

> Dear renuji,

>

> beautiful. My efforts are really paying now. God will surely bless

me

> for sharing, as He always does. . Your mail shows that members are

> reading and trying to understand and, APPLY.

>

> You are absolutely right. The placement of Venus would certainly

either

> enhance the benefic results mentioned or reduce them.

>

> Consider same as always for all other planets.

>

> I could not mention that, since we were not taking up any real

chart or

> combination, but just being specific uptil the data given.

>

> Which is why in the starting I requested Shri Sreeramji to give me

the

> placement for the planet Mars.

>

> the planet as source where it is placed, and the constellation

owner

> where it is placed would add to the results.

>

> Good, I am satisfied now. One member is complete with her

information on

> above, and can start predicting much better now then before.

>

> regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

, " renunw " <renunw@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >

> > " Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th

house

> > and in naskhatra of Venus. Now venus is the lord of 6th house

and 11th

> > house. so the results would be Money, gains through property or

> > commissions related to property. Because 6th shows money

received due

> to

> > transaction or services, and 11th shows gains.

> >

> > Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in

> nakshatra

> > of venus. The results would be the same. Commissions and money

> > received. But the source would change. Because now saturn is is

placed

> > inthe 3rd house which denotes writing, communications, computers,

> > author, wriiten artcilces, novels, printing etc. So the native

would

> > earn Money certainly, but now the source would change. "

> >

> > I thank you for the clarity of the above explanation. Since my

astro

> > knowledge is minimal, kindly tell me in the above cases, would

not the

> > placement of Venus has any affect on Jupiter or on Saturn? Do we

have

> to

> > consider only the houses owned by Venus - the nakshastra lord of

Ju &

> Sa

> > in the example given?

> >

> > blessings

> >

> > Renu

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

> > rajiventerprises@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Shivamji,

> > >

> > > My efforts in posting a write-up pays, when somebody reads

that and

> > > applies the same. Thank You.

> > >

> > > Now coming to your query. Yes the nakshatra dispositor is the

planet

> > > which would actually show what the results any planet would

give.

> The

> > > planet would show the source .

> > >

> > > Imaginary example

> > >

> > > Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th

house

> > and

> > > in naskhatra of Venus. Now venus is the lord of 6th house and

11th

> > > house. so the results would be Money, gains through property or

> > > commissions related to property. Because 6th shows money

received

> due

> > to

> > > transaction or services, and 11th shows gains.

> > >

> > > Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in

> > nakshatra

> > > of venus. The results would be the same. Commissions and money

> > > received. But the source would change. Because now saturn is is

> placed

> > > inthe 3rd house which denotes writing, communications,

computers,

> > > author, wriiten artcilces, novels, printing etc. So the native

would

> > > earn Money certainly, but now the source would change.

> > >

> > > In the same way you can treat for Moon as asked in your query.

> > >

> > > Any astrologer who understands this does not need, any Chart or

> > lengthy

> > > explanations or hundreds of rules, or contradictions or many

books

> to

> > > check results. Commonsense,practise and logic is needed in the

> > analysis

> > > alongwith intuitions.

> > >

> > > Mars 140 degrees 20 minutes 40 seconds placed in 5th house

should be

> > > enough for a good practioner of this science , to predict the

> results

> > in

> > > few seconds ( Not minutes ), what others may take 2 days to

give

> after

> > > spending hours and hours of their time and efforts in

multitudes of

> > > various divisional charts and applying of hundreds of rules.

Because

> > > the above info encases, Lagna, navamsha details, and also much

> smaller

> > > divisions of the divisional charts too, for any keen

astrological

> > mind.

> > >

> > > And one does not need paper, pen or books to predict. one can

even

> > > calculate the Vimsottari dasha on fingers, and everything else

said

> > > above, if he is given the above small information, which is

enough.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , " Shivam Omar "

> > > oshivam@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > > > It is indeed a great writeup for the learners of predictive

> > astrology

> > > like

> > > > me. Thanks for all your effort in writing the same. I have

got a

> > small

> > > > question based on this article. As you have mentioned Mars

being

> at

> > > 13.20 to

> > > > 16.40 degrees in Taurus, moon will be the nakshatra lord and

> through

> > > moon

> > > > one can relate 2nd, 4th and 8th house. If Mars would have

been in

> > > Aries,

> > > > Taurus or Gemini Navamansha (and in Taurus at Lagna Chart),

then

> > also

> > > > results should have been same as Mars in Taurus Navamansha,

> Because

> > > > Nakshatra dispositor of Mars is the same Moon. This means

only the

> > > Nakshatra

> > > > of the planet determines the results. Am I correct in my

> > > understanding?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Shivam

> > > >

> > > > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Neelamji,

> > > > >

> > > > > My last take on this thread, no sense of waiting for more

> inputs.

> > I

> > > liked

> > > > > the way you made efforts to understand this, by drawing a

> navamsa

> > > chart and

> > > > > understanding it personally without being told about the

absence

> > of

> > > Taurus

> > > > > navamsha for the watery signs . And i wish You to

understand

> this

> > > fully, so

> > > > > that you need no one, no books or any other material to

> understand

> > > the

> > > > > decoding of the navamsha for - Predictive astrology. This

would

> be

> > > my gift

> > > > > to a excersising mind. Others those who may be interested

must

> > read

> > > this

> > > > > properly, because here is shown the best technique of

> prediction.

> > > > >

> > > > > *Examples.*

> > > > >

> > > > > For instance for a Aries nativity Mars in the 2nd house in

natal

> > > chart in

> > > > > taurus navamsha would mean mars is having the degrees

between

> > 13.20

> > > to 16.40

> > > > > degrees. ( If mars is any other degrees it would not get

taurus

> > > Navamsha) So

> > > > > how do we get to predictive part ? Mars is Lord of 1 and 8

and

> > > placed in 2.

> > > > > First of all he may have loss of wealth as well as throat

> > problems.

> > > also

> > > > > elder brother of mother may have problem . also his family

peace

> > may

> > > be

> > > > > shattered. he may have headaches or problems related to

face.

> Next

> > > part we

> > > > > must move to the degrees. This is ruled by which planet we

must

> > see

> > > . it is

> > > > > ruled by moon. What role does moon have to play in the

Aries

> > > nativity chart

> > > > > ? It is ruler of the 4th house. When you connect the 4th

house

> > wuith

> > > the

> > > > > 8th and the 2nd. what do you get ? Problems to mother.

problems

> > > related to

> > > > > breast or chest. this is how one predicts. i am in habit of

> doing

> > > this

> > > > > in few minutes for the whole chart because this is what i

am

> doing

> > > for last

> > > > > 2 years continously. In fact one does not have to see the

> navamsha

> > > chart

> > > > > itself. you just see the degrees and start predicting.

Most of

> my

> > > whole-life

> > > > > predictions to my clients are based on a single sheet of

data,

> > > without any

> > > > > recourse needed for referring 20 charts or sheets of

paper. And

> > the

> > > nutshell

> > > > > of a persons life in all areas opens up just within few

seconds

> if

> > > you

> > > > > believe me with the degrees chart in front of you. add a

few

> > minutes

> > > more to

> > > > > this and you can safelt tell the native what must have

happened

> > when

> > > in his

> > > > > life and what could be expected when.after all the natives

do

> not

> > > come to us

> > > > > for generalisations but for predictions. I had given these

> results

> > > when i

> > > > > had laid down for the Placement of Mars in 2nd house, a few

> > messages

> > > ago-

> > > > > Not good for Mothers health or Domestic bless.

> > > > > If Leo and sun is afflicted then the natives heart would

also be

> a

> > > problem

> > > > > after middle age. Mother can die during Mars period.

> > > > >

> > > > > *We will take another placement for the same Aries

nativity. *

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars placed in 6th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > again to have taurus navamsha one needs mars to be in

degrees

> > 13.20

> > > to

> > > > > 16.40. mars is lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 6th. So

automatic

> > 1,6,

> > > and 8

> > > > > would give give disease and surgery this point must strike

the

> > mind

> > > > > immediately in few seconds. But why mother may die ? the

above

> > > degrees are

> > > > > ruled by moon who is lord of the 4th house. So connect

this and

> > you

> > > have the

> > > > > predictions immediately. You can expand on home , House,

land

> > > property,

> > > > > studies etc. whatever query is put by the native, the

answer

> would

> > > depend

> > > > > only on these base figures. I had given these results for

the

> mars

> > > placement

> > > > > in 6th house

> > > > > Will suffer operation in this period of Mars antardasha.

> > > > > can earn good money through insurance. Mother may die

> > > > > during this period or be hospitalised.

> > > > > here why i had mentioned would earn good money through

insurance

> ?

> > > Because

> > > > > the 8th house concerns death and the 6th house concerns

> > commissions.

> > > Those

> > > > > astrologers who know to take advantages of such

combinations in

> > all

> > > periods

> > > > > can be winners. ( Astrologers can also do good with the

transits

> > if

> > > they

> > > > > know how to use them effectively )

> > > > >

> > > > > *I will take one last placement as an example, because i

have to

> > do

> > > my

> > > > > other duties too.*

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars placed in 11th in natal chart for Aries nativity with

> taurus

> > > navamsha.

> > > > >

> > > > > here the degrees of Mars must be between 23.20 and 26.40

to land

> > in

> > > taurus

> > > > > navamsha.

> > > > >

> > > > > mars is lord of 1 and 8, placed in 11th. sounds good and

bad

> both.

> > > good

> > > > > because 11th is house of gains and lagna lord placed in

11th

> house

> > > produces

> > > > > a Great dhana yoga. Is it not ? but first of all dont

forget

> that

> > > 11th is

> > > > > the badhaksthana for this Lagna. next the native may have a

> > breaking

> > > of his

> > > > > leg because the 11th house means portion below the knees (

> calves

> > ),

> > > the

> > > > > above degrees are ruled by jupiter who is Lord of 9th and

12th

> for

> > > this

> > > > > chart. now when 12th is running simultaneously with 8th,

it may

> > show

> > > > > accident and hospitalisation. this period may also show

death

> for

> > > the

> > > > > father if native is middle aged. why ? because when the

8th gets

> > > activated,

> > > > > remember that it is the 12th counted from the father house

which

> > is

> > > the

> > > > > 9th. the 8th house is also the house of scandals and

allegations

> > > while the

> > > > > 12th when running simultaenously can bring this scandal to

the

> > legal

> > > front

> > > > > and put the person behind bars. You may expand on this.

> > > > >

> > > > > To the person who can do nakshatra based predictions , it

can be

> > > just a

> > > > > matter of few minutes to study about the whole life of a

> nativity,

> > > on a

> > > > > single sheet of paper, and predict effectively what would

happen

> > > when, and

> > > > > his predictions would be true upto 80% if he is good, if

not

> more.

> > > You dont

> > > > > have to see any divisonal chart , because you already have

the

> > > degrees to

> > > > > guide you, so need to draw a diagram and put the planet in

it .

> > > Divisional

> > > > > charts are nothing but the degrees translated into

> diagramaatical

> > > > > representation for the astrologer to be more comfortable

with.

> But

> > > once you

> > > > > become familiar with the art of prediction, then you dont

need

> > > > > diagrammatical representations or charts. For instance, I

rarely

> > see

> > > the

> > > > > charts, but only see the degrees. Chart is automatically

formed

> in

> > > the mind.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have few members calling me on my personal id and sms.

Please

> do

> > > not do

> > > > > this because i dont keep much friendships, and those few

with

> whom

> > i

> > > do, it

> > > > > is based totally on truthfulness in communications between

us.

> > > whatever

> > > > > communication has to be done, let it be here on these

Forums.

> > > > >

> > > > > I leave you now to study your own charts with the above

> mentioned

> > > approach.

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > *N.B.* i wished to put some more of such techniques of

> > predictions,

> > > but i

> > > > > find most of the peoplle are not particvipating or

excersising

> > their

> > > brains,

> > > > > and everyone wishes to teach here or comment. no one wants

to be

> a

> > > learner.

> > > > > For me I am going to be a learner all my Life, and also

share

> with

> > > those

> > > > > interested like You did, and am still learning many

techniques

> > under

> > > > > guidance of people more better and learned then me who

maybe My

> > > gurus or my

> > > > > contemporaries does not matter to me. If one has to offer

learn.

> > If

> > > you have

> > > > > to offer share. I have said many times before, those who

learn

> to

> > > give ,

> > > > > will always get.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 31, 2008

HaHa.

A good repartee.

regards, Bhaskar.

, "bhagavathi_hariharan" <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:>> Respected Bhaskarji,> > Not a problem. When I started reading that or anything like that, i > usually make a picture in my mind, my mind did not go beyond, it > stumbled there itself. If nobody brought this out your tribe would > citicize our tribe(my tribe is actually student tribe, not that of a > critic)saying that> > "I made a mistake in my earlier post, nobody is paying attention to > it, looks like no body is interested in what I write, so i am > quitting the group"> > Yes, I am Sunilji's student only but also respect your presence in > this group. > > Regards,> > bhagavathi> > > > , "Bhaskar" > rajiventerprises@ wrote:> >> > > > Madam,> > > > Why do you people search for torn pockets in someones hard work ,> > instead of trying to contribute is very sad.> > > > i dont understand why the need to criticse a imaginary example and > try> > to look for logic in that placement.> > > > Take hold of the rules i am trying to put forth. just see the > principle> > behind that example.> > > > I have already mentioned that its an imaginary example so why the > need> > to talk about, what you did. I had envisaged before, that that > someone> > of your tribe ( Tribe of criticsiers ) would come forward to look > for> > negative loose pockets and comment, which is why I kept myself safe > by> > mentioning " Imaginary example ".> > > > When we come to answering you, then i will try to search for logic ,> > right now i have answered another gentleman and hope he understood > what> > I was trying to say.> > > > Please come up with something to share instead of attacking anyone> > trying to share. I belive you are discipel of shri sunil Nairji, and> > expect better behaviour from you> > > > That post was not in good taste, I must say.> > > > Come up with some smarter observations in astrology, and from your > own> > side, instead of commenting adverse on anothers creation, where it > does> > not make sense, because this is the first time I > mentioned "Imaginary> > example " otherwise uptil now I have either mentioned just " > Example "> > or " Example 1 " .......2 .etc.> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "bhagavathi_hariharan"> > <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > >> > > Appreciate all your kind efforts> > >> > > //Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th > house> > > and in naskhatra of Venus//> > >> > > //Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in> > > nakshatra of venus//> > >> > > To use your IMAGINARY example as above, I would drop that "lagna > in> > > sagittarius", for neither in 3rd or 4th to sagittarius, there > exists a> > > venusian constellation, I like to imagine logical charts> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > bhagavathi> > >> >>

July 31, 2008

A Confession-

However much we may know about our charts, for people like me, it is a

harrowing experience of commuting 1 hour daily to the office and 1 hour

commuting back. Bombay, since last 15 years has become a dangerous

place, with the Mother of Bombs which blasted 12-15 years just 2

buildings away from my building where I stay, Worli. After that down

the years, we have had a spate of blasts periodically, Jhaveri bazaar,

share market, gateway of india, Ghatkopar and numerous other places.

Specially the evening 1 hour on way back, when the traffic is jammed at

all signals, it is a fearful experience throughout the way. Life has

really become third class now in this city. The good part is, that i

take gods name throughout while going and throughout while coming. Thus

2 hours are mandatorily spent in His name out of fear, or uncompleted

pooja path in the morning, whatever.

So while travelling back to home, you can expect mental turmoil of a

lady who has gone for delivery, and the relief on reaching doorstep, as

she having delivered.

These queries are like chess games in the evening time then, because one

has to use his already tired mind, and it becomes difficult then.

I beg pardon for overstepping in my expressions.

Bhaskar.

, " Bhaskar "

<rajiventerprises wrote:

>

> Dear Bhagwathiji,

>

> in the evening when a man comes home at 8.00 or 9.00 from office, then

> one does not wish to use his brains much. dimaag lagane ki utni taakat

> nahi hoti hai, and one wishes to use it only on the point focused,

which

> is why i did not go for the prelimnary checking of statistics and

played

> safe by mentioning what I did, but was serious on the part which i

> wished to convey.

>

> hope you understand.....

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " Bhaskar "

> rajiventerprises@ wrote:

> >

> > Madam,

> >

> > Why do you people search for torn pockets in someones hard work ,

> > instead of trying to contribute is very sad.

> >

> > i dont understand why the need to criticse a imaginary example and

try

> > to look for logic in that placement.

> >

> > Take hold of the rules i am trying to put forth. just see the

> principle

> > behind that example.

> >

> > I have already mentioned that its an imaginary example so why the

need

> > to talk about, what you did. I had envisaged before, that that

someone

> > of your tribe ( Tribe of criticsiers ) would come forward to look

for

> > negative loose pockets and comment, which is why I kept myself safe

by

> > mentioning " Imaginary example " .

> >

> > When we come to answering you, then i will try to search for logic ,

> > right now i have answered another gentleman and hope he understood

> what

> > I was trying to say.

> >

> > Please come up with something to share instead of attacking anyone

> > trying to share. I belive you are discipel of shri sunil Nairji, and

> > expect better behaviour from you

> >

> > That post was not in good taste, I must say.

> >

> > Come up with some smarter observations in astrology, and from your

own

> > side, instead of commenting adverse on anothers creation, where it

> does

> > not make sense, because this is the first time I mentioned

" Imaginary

> > example " otherwise uptil now I have either mentioned just " Example

"

> > or " Example 1 " .......2 .etc.

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > ,

> " bhagavathi_hariharan "

> > bhagavathi_hariharan@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > >

> > > Appreciate all your kind efforts

> > >

> > > //Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th

> house

> > > and in naskhatra of Venus//

> > >

> > > //Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in

> > > nakshatra of venus//

> > >

> > > To use your IMAGINARY example as above, I would drop that " lagna

in

> > > sagittarius " , for neither in 3rd or 4th to sagittarius, there

exists

> a

> > > venusian constellation, I like to imagine logical charts

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > bhagavathi

> > >

> >

>

July 31, 2008

Dear Bhaskarji,

There is absolutely no need for any confessions. I can imagine the

life in bombay. I have experienced the 1993 blasts. It is strange

that the Bomb got dropped off " bomb " ay but still the city is

not " mum " bai

Rgds,

bhagavathi

, " Bhaskar "

<rajiventerprises wrote:

>

> A Confession-

>

> However much we may know about our charts, for people like me, it

is a

> harrowing experience of commuting 1 hour daily to the office and 1

hour

> commuting back. Bombay, since last 15 years has become a dangerous

> place, with the Mother of Bombs which blasted 12-15 years just 2

> buildings away from my building where I stay, Worli. After that

down

> the years, we have had a spate of blasts periodically, Jhaveri

bazaar,

> share market, gateway of india, Ghatkopar and numerous other places.

>

> Specially the evening 1 hour on way back, when the traffic is

jammed at

> all signals, it is a fearful experience throughout the way. Life

has

> really become third class now in this city. The good part is, that i

> take gods name throughout while going and throughout while coming.

Thus

> 2 hours are mandatorily spent in His name out of fear, or

uncompleted

> pooja path in the morning, whatever.

>

> So while travelling back to home, you can expect mental turmoil of a

> lady who has gone for delivery, and the relief on reaching

doorstep, as

> she having delivered.

>

> These queries are like chess games in the evening time then,

because one

> has to use his already tired mind, and it becomes difficult then.

>

> I beg pardon for overstepping in my expressions.

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " Bhaskar "

> <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhagwathiji,

> >

> > in the evening when a man comes home at 8.00 or 9.00 from office,

then

> > one does not wish to use his brains much. dimaag lagane ki utni

taakat

> > nahi hoti hai, and one wishes to use it only on the point focused,

> which

> > is why i did not go for the prelimnary checking of statistics and

> played

> > safe by mentioning what I did, but was serious on the part which i

> > wished to convey.

> >

> > hope you understand.....

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

> > rajiventerprises@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Madam,

> > >

> > > Why do you people search for torn pockets in someones hard

work ,

> > > instead of trying to contribute is very sad.

> > >

> > > i dont understand why the need to criticse a imaginary example

and

> try

> > > to look for logic in that placement.

> > >

> > > Take hold of the rules i am trying to put forth. just see the

> > principle

> > > behind that example.

> > >

> > > I have already mentioned that its an imaginary example so why

the

> need

> > > to talk about, what you did. I had envisaged before, that that

> someone

> > > of your tribe ( Tribe of criticsiers ) would come forward to

look

> for

> > > negative loose pockets and comment, which is why I kept myself

safe

> by

> > > mentioning " Imaginary example " .

> > >

> > > When we come to answering you, then i will try to search for

logic ,

> > > right now i have answered another gentleman and hope he

understood

> > what

> > > I was trying to say.

> > >

> > > Please come up with something to share instead of attacking

anyone

> > > trying to share. I belive you are discipel of shri sunil

Nairji, and

> > > expect better behaviour from you

> > >

> > > That post was not in good taste, I must say.

> > >

> > > Come up with some smarter observations in astrology, and from

your

> own

> > > side, instead of commenting adverse on anothers creation, where

it

> > does

> > > not make sense, because this is the first time I mentioned

> " Imaginary

> > > example " otherwise uptil now I have either mentioned just "

Example

> "

> > > or " Example 1 " .......2 .etc.

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ,

> > " bhagavathi_hariharan "

> > > bhagavathi_hariharan@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > > >

> > > > Appreciate all your kind efforts

> > > >

> > > > //Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in

4th

> > house

> > > > and in naskhatra of Venus//

> > > >

> > > > //Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house

in

> > > > nakshatra of venus//

> > > >

> > > > To use your IMAGINARY example as above, I would drop

that " lagna

> in

> > > > sagittarius " , for neither in 3rd or 4th to sagittarius, there

> exists

> > a

> > > > venusian constellation, I like to imagine logical charts

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > bhagavathi

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 1, 2008

dear bhaskarji,

to have mars in taurus amsa, mars shud be in 6deg 40' to 10 deg in the natal chart.

I am bit confused with what u have mentioned ie "For instance for a Aries nativity Mars in the 2nd house in natal chart in taurus navamsha would mean mars is having the degrees between 13.20 to 16.40 degrees."

If mars is between 13.20 to 16.40 in the natal chart in aries mars goes to leo amsa.

I prepared a chart using Jhora with the following details ie DOB 24th jun 2007 and time 2.10pm with chennai as place and using Lahiri's ayanamsa. the chart has aries lagna, mars in aries at 5 deg 7' and in amsa it mars goes to Taurus.

I would request u to clarify the above. Maybe by oversight u have mentioned the deg as 13.20 to 16.40.

good wishes,

k.gopu

August 1, 2008

Dear Gopuji,

My replies as under in Blue

// to have mars in taurus amsa, mars shud be in 6deg 40' to 10 deg in the natal chart. //

Mars in above degrees will never have taurus navamsha , let it be placed in any sign whatsoever.

// For instance for a Aries nativity Mars in the 2nd house in natal chart in taurus navamsha would mean mars is having the degrees between 13.20 to 16.40 degrees." //

I again repeat that as per my knowledge this is true.

// If mars is between 13.20 to 16.40 in the natal chart in aries mars goes to leo amsa. //

What You are saying is also true, but mixing matters. Now you are talking of which house Mars placed in ? it seems to be first house. While we were discussing only on those houses which go to Taurus navamsha. But You have brought the Leo navamsa in picture. mars in above degrees would get only Leo navamsha. And when i mentioned the above degrees for mars to go in taurus navamsha, i clearly mentioned that Mars should be placed in 2nd house. So here i suppose you have got it wrong.

// I prepared a chart using Jhora with the following details ie DOB 24th jun 2007 and time 2.10pm with chennai as place and using Lahiri's ayanamsa. the chart has aries lagna, mars in aries at 5 deg 7' and in amsa it mars goes to Taurus. //

Mars in above degreees has to go to taurus navamsha.

so what i have mentioned is absolutely right and theres been no oversight.

I will once again repeat the degrees for Mars to be in various signs, to attain taurus Navamsha.

For all fiery signs Mars must be placed in degrees between 3.20 to 6.40 to attain Taurus navamsha.

For all Earthy signs Mars must be placed in degrees between 13.20 to 16.40 to attain Taurus navamsha.

For all Airy signs Mars must be placed in degrees between 23.20 to 26.40 to attain Taurus navamsha.

for watery signs, no taurus navamsha.

Please re-read the above, and check the houses and signs you have been looking for, and if still there is any doubt, please do not hesitate to come back for the clarifications.

regards,

bhaskar.

August 1, 2008

Dear BhaskarJI,

Thanks for providing more examples of the technique. It made the tecnique

more clear and transparent. In the process, I developed one more doubt. What

if the lagna lord is in its own nakshatra in its own house (sun at 26.40 to

29.99 degree leo or Rahu at 6.40 to 20 degree aquarious). In this case how

we will expand the technique, because here we have no other house to relate.

Thanks,

Shivam

On 7/31/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote:

>

> Dear Shivamji,

>

> My efforts in posting a write-up pays, when somebody reads that and

> applies the same. Thank You.

>

> Now coming to your query. Yes the nakshatra dispositor is the planet which

> would actually show what the results any planet would give. The planet would

> show the source .

>

> *Imaginary example*

>

> Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th house and in

> naskhatra of Venus. Now venus is the lord of 6th house and 11th house. so

> the results would be Money, gains through property or commissions related to

> property. Because 6th shows money received due to transaction or services,

> and 11th shows gains.

>

> Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in nakshatra of

> venus. The results would be the same. Commissions and money received.

> But the source would change. Because now saturn is is placed inthe 3rd house

> which denotes writing, communications, computers, author, wriiten artcilces,

> novels, printing etc. So the native would earn Money certainly, but now the

> source would change.

>

> In the same way you can treat for Moon as asked in your query.

>

> Any astrologer who understands this does not need, any Chart or lengthy

> explanations or hundreds of rules, or contradictions or many books to check

> results. Commonsense,practise and logic is needed in the analysis alongwith

> intuitions.

>

> Mars 140 degrees 20 minutes 40 seconds placed in 5th house should be

> enough for a good practioner of this science , to predict the results in few

> seconds ( Not minutes ), what others may take 2 days to give after spending

> hours and hours of their time and efforts in multitudes of various

> divisional charts and applying of hundreds of rules. Because the above info

> encases, Lagna, navamsha details, and also much smaller divisions of the

> divisional charts too, for any keen astrological mind.

>

> And one does not need paper, pen or books to predict. one can even

> calculate the Vimsottari dasha on fingers, and everything else said above,

> if he is given the above small information, which is enough.

>

> regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

, " Shivam Omar " <oshivam

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > It is indeed a great writeup for the learners of predictive astrology

> like

> > me. Thanks for all your effort in writing the same. I have got a small

> > question based on this article. As you have mentioned Mars being at 13.20

> to

> > 16.40 degrees in Taurus, moon will be the nakshatra lord and through moon

> > one can relate 2nd, 4th and 8th house. If Mars would have been in Aries,

> > Taurus or Gemini Navamansha (and in Taurus at Lagna Chart), then also

> > results should have been same as Mars in Taurus Navamansha, Because

> > Nakshatra dispositor of Mars is the same Moon. This means only the

> Nakshatra

> > of the planet determines the results. Am I correct in my understanding?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Shivam

> >

> > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Neelamji,

> > >

> > > My last take on this thread, no sense of waiting for more inputs. I

> liked

> > > the way you made efforts to understand this, by drawing a navamsa chart

> and

> > > understanding it personally without being told about the absence of

> Taurus

> > > navamsha for the watery signs . And i wish You to understand this

> fully, so

> > > that you need no one, no books or any other material to understand the

> > > decoding of the navamsha for - Predictive astrology. This would be my

> gift

> > > to a excersising mind. Others those who may be interested must read

> this

> > > properly, because here is shown the best technique of prediction.

> > >

> > > *Examples.*

> > >

> > > For instance for a Aries nativity Mars in the 2nd house in natal chart

> in

> > > taurus navamsha would mean mars is having the degrees between 13.20 to

> 16.40

> > > degrees. ( If mars is any other degrees it would not get taurus

> Navamsha) So

> > > how do we get to predictive part ? Mars is Lord of 1 and 8 and placed

> in 2.

> > > First of all he may have loss of wealth as well as throat problems.

> also

> > > elder brother of mother may have problem . also his family peace may be

> > > shattered. he may have headaches or problems related to face. Next part

> we

> > > must move to the degrees. This is ruled by which planet we must see .

> it is

> > > ruled by moon. What role does moon have to play in the Aries nativity

> chart

> > > ? It is ruler of the 4th house. When you connect the 4th house wuith

> the

> > > 8th and the 2nd. what do you get ? Problems to mother. problems related

> to

> > > breast or chest. this is how one predicts. i am in habit of doing this

> > > in few minutes for the whole chart because this is what i am doing for

> last

> > > 2 years continously. In fact one does not have to see the navamsha

> chart

> > > itself. you just see the degrees and start predicting. Most of my

> whole-life

> > > predictions to my clients are based on a single sheet of data, without

> any

> > > recourse needed for referring 20 charts or sheets of paper. And the

> nutshell

> > > of a persons life in all areas opens up just within few seconds if you

> > > believe me with the degrees chart in front of you. add a few minutes

> more to

> > > this and you can safelt tell the native what must have happened when in

> his

> > > life and what could be expected when.after all the natives do not come

> to us

> > > for generalisations but for predictions. I had given these results when

> i

> > > had laid down for the Placement of Mars in 2nd house, a few messages

> ago-

> > > Not good for Mothers health or Domestic bless.

> > > If Leo and sun is afflicted then the natives heart would also be a

> problem

> > > after middle age. Mother can die during Mars period.

> > >

> > > *We will take another placement for the same Aries nativity. *

> > >

> > > Mars placed in 6th house.

> > >

> > > again to have taurus navamsha one needs mars to be in degrees 13.20 to

> > > 16.40. mars is lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 6th. So automatic 1,6, and

> 8

> > > would give give disease and surgery this point must strike the mind

> > > immediately in few seconds. But why mother may die ? the above degrees

> are

> > > ruled by moon who is lord of the 4th house. So connect this and you

> have the

> > > predictions immediately. You can expand on home , House, land property,

> > > studies etc. whatever query is put by the native, the answer would

> depend

> > > only on these base figures. I had given these results for the mars

> placement

> > > in 6th house

> > > Will suffer operation in this period of Mars antardasha.

> > > can earn good money through insurance. Mother may die

> > > during this period or be hospitalised.

> > > here why i had mentioned would earn good money through insurance ?

> Because

> > > the 8th house concerns death and the 6th house concerns commissions.

> Those

> > > astrologers who know to take advantages of such combinations in all

> periods

> > > can be winners. ( Astrologers can also do good with the transits if

> they

> > > know how to use them effectively )

> > >

> > > *I will take one last placement as an example, because i have to do my

> > > other duties too.*

> > >

> > > Mars placed in 11th in natal chart for Aries nativity with taurus

> navamsha.

> > >

> > > here the degrees of Mars must be between 23.20 and 26.40 to land in

> taurus

> > > navamsha.

> > >

> > > mars is lord of 1 and 8, placed in 11th. sounds good and bad both. good

> > > because 11th is house of gains and lagna lord placed in 11th house

> produces

> > > a Great dhana yoga. Is it not ? but first of all dont forget that 11th

> is

> > > the badhaksthana for this Lagna. next the native may have a breaking of

> his

> > > leg because the 11th house means portion below the knees ( calves ),

> the

> > > above degrees are ruled by jupiter who is Lord of 9th and 12th for this

> > > chart. now when 12th is running simultaneously with 8th, it may show

> > > accident and hospitalisation. this period may also show death for the

> > > father if native is middle aged. why ? because when the 8th gets

> activated,

> > > remember that it is the 12th counted from the father house which is the

> > > 9th. the 8th house is also the house of scandals and allegations while

> the

> > > 12th when running simultaenously can bring this scandal to the legal

> front

> > > and put the person behind bars. You may expand on this.

> > >

> > > To the person who can do nakshatra based predictions , it can be just a

> > > matter of few minutes to study about the whole life of a nativity, on a

> > > single sheet of paper, and predict effectively what would happen when,

> and

> > > his predictions would be true upto 80% if he is good, if not more. You

> dont

> > > have to see any divisonal chart , because you already have the degrees

> to

> > > guide you, so need to draw a diagram and put the planet in it .

> Divisional

> > > charts are nothing but the degrees translated into diagramaatical

> > > representation for the astrologer to be more comfortable with. But once

> you

> > > become familiar with the art of prediction, then you dont need

> > > diagrammatical representations or charts. For instance, I rarely see

> the

> > > charts, but only see the degrees. Chart is automatically formed in the

> mind.

> > >

> > > I have few members calling me on my personal id and sms. Please do not

> do

> > > this because i dont keep much friendships, and those few with whom i

> do, it

> > > is based totally on truthfulness in communications between us. whatever

> > > communication has to be done, let it be here on these Forums.

> > >

> > > I leave you now to study your own charts with the above mentioned

> approach.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > >

> > > bhaskar.

> > >

> > > *N.B.* i wished to put some more of such techniques of predictions, but

> i

> > > find most of the peoplle are not particvipating or excersising their

> brains,

> > > and everyone wishes to teach here or comment. no one wants to be a

> learner.

> > > For me I am going to be a learner all my Life, and also share with

> those

> > > interested like You did, and am still learning many techniques under

> > > guidance of people more better and learned then me who maybe My gurus

> or my

> > > contemporaries does not matter to me. If one has to offer learn. If you

> have

> > > to offer share. I have said many times before, those who learn to give

> ,

> > > will always get.

> > >

> >

>

August 1, 2008

Dear Shivamji,

A good question, shows that you are now applying your mind in a proper manner, intended to , for any research oriented student of astrology. ( And we all of us are after all students. its not easy to be a Master, and theres no definition of a Master in such matters as of astrology . )

Planet in own constellation

Any planet in its own constellation, the results of its Placement and Ownerships of the houses it lords over, would be reinforced or shown prominent in his life, during the main or sub periods of this Planet. For instance Mercury in 5th for a Leo ascendant, if in own constellation, would re-inforce the effects of the native - Making lakhs or millions through speculation , in the share markets.

Planet in constellation of any Nodes - rahu or ketu

Now suppose this mercury would have been in the 5th house but placed in Rahus constellation, then how to decode the results ?

Note down rahus house where placed. Note Rahu is in which constellation and what does the owner of that constellation represent ? Note if any planet is conjoint with Rahu within 4 degrees and not down what that planet represents. ( Even if this planet within 4 degrees is in another sign still it would be treated as conjunct,remember, because there are no walls in the sky ).

Note which planets are aspecting Rahu and note which houses do they represent. Note the sign Lord in which rahu is placed, what houses does it represent.

The net result of above would represent what Sun would result being in Rahus constellation. Suppose Rahu represents the houses of gains, wealth, 2nd 11th or 6th, then the native would get the same results what we predicted for mercury constellation, or else if 5, 8 or 12, then he would suffer losses and must be advised not to invest in share Markets.

The astrologer who has reached this stage, its not long before he could predict easily uptil 70% of what is required .

best wishes,

bhaskar.

, "Shivam Omar" <oshivam wrote:>> Dear BhaskarJI,> Thanks for providing more examples of the technique. It made the tecnique> more clear and transparent. In the process, I developed one more doubt. What> if the lagna lord is in its own nakshatra in its own house (sun at 26.40 to> 29.99 degree leo or Rahu at 6.40 to 20 degree aquarious). In this case how> we will expand the technique, because here we have no other house to relate.> > > Thanks,> Shivam> > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises wrote:> >> > Dear Shivamji,> >> > My efforts in posting a write-up pays, when somebody reads that and> > applies the same. Thank You.> >> > Now coming to your query. Yes the nakshatra dispositor is the planet which> > would actually show what the results any planet would give. The planet would> > show the source .> >> > *Imaginary example*> >> > Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th house and in> > naskhatra of Venus. Now venus is the lord of 6th house and 11th house. so> > the results would be Money, gains through property or commissions related to> > property. Because 6th shows money received due to transaction or services,> > and 11th shows gains.> >> > Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in nakshatra of> > venus. The results would be the same. Commissions and money received.> > But the source would change. Because now saturn is is placed inthe 3rd house> > which denotes writing, communications, computers, author, wriiten artcilces,> > novels, printing etc. So the native would earn Money certainly, but now the> > source would change.> >> > In the same way you can treat for Moon as asked in your query.> >> > Any astrologer who understands this does not need, any Chart or lengthy> > explanations or hundreds of rules, or contradictions or many books to check> > results. Commonsense,practise and logic is needed in the analysis alongwith> > intuitions.> >> > Mars 140 degrees 20 minutes 40 seconds placed in 5th house should be> > enough for a good practioner of this science , to predict the results in few> > seconds ( Not minutes ), what others may take 2 days to give after spending> > hours and hours of their time and efforts in multitudes of various> > divisional charts and applying of hundreds of rules. Because the above info> > encases, Lagna, navamsha details, and also much smaller divisions of the> > divisional charts too, for any keen astrological mind.> >> > And one does not need paper, pen or books to predict. one can even> > calculate the Vimsottari dasha on fingers, and everything else said above,> > if he is given the above small information, which is enough.> >> > regards,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "Shivam Omar" oshivam@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > > It is indeed a great writeup for the learners of predictive astrology> > like> > > me. Thanks for all your effort in writing the same. I have got a small> > > question based on this article. As you have mentioned Mars being at 13.20> > to> > > 16.40 degrees in Taurus, moon will be the nakshatra lord and through moon> > > one can relate 2nd, 4th and 8th house. If Mars would have been in Aries,> > > Taurus or Gemini Navamansha (and in Taurus at Lagna Chart), then also> > > results should have been same as Mars in Taurus Navamansha, Because> > > Nakshatra dispositor of Mars is the same Moon. This means only the> > Nakshatra> > > of the planet determines the results. Am I correct in my understanding?> > >> > > Thanks,> > > Shivam> > >> > > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Neelamji,> > > >> > > > My last take on this thread, no sense of waiting for more inputs. I> > liked> > > > the way you made efforts to understand this, by drawing a navamsa chart> > and> > > > understanding it personally without being told about the absence of> > Taurus> > > > navamsha for the watery signs . And i wish You to understand this> > fully, so> > > > that you need no one, no books or any other material to understand the> > > > decoding of the navamsha for - Predictive astrology. This would be my> > gift> > > > to a excersising mind. Others those who may be interested must read> > this> > > > properly, because here is shown the best technique of prediction.> > > >> > > > *Examples.*> > > >> > > > For instance for a Aries nativity Mars in the 2nd house in natal chart> > in> > > > taurus navamsha would mean mars is having the degrees between 13.20 to> > 16.40> > > > degrees. ( If mars is any other degrees it would not get taurus> > Navamsha) So> > > > how do we get to predictive part ? Mars is Lord of 1 and 8 and placed> > in 2.> > > > First of all he may have loss of wealth as well as throat problems.> > also> > > > elder brother of mother may have problem . also his family peace may be> > > > shattered. he may have headaches or problems related to face. Next part> > we> > > > must move to the degrees. This is ruled by which planet we must see .> > it is> > > > ruled by moon. What role does moon have to play in the Aries nativity> > chart> > > > ? It is ruler of the 4th house. When you connect the 4th house wuith> > the> > > > 8th and the 2nd. what do you get ? Problems to mother. problems related> > to> > > > breast or chest. this is how one predicts. i am in habit of doing this> > > > in few minutes for the whole chart because this is what i am doing for> > last> > > > 2 years continously. In fact one does not have to see the navamsha> > chart> > > > itself. you just see the degrees and start predicting. Most of my> > whole-life> > > > predictions to my clients are based on a single sheet of data, without> > any> > > > recourse needed for referring 20 charts or sheets of paper. And the> > nutshell> > > > of a persons life in all areas opens up just within few seconds if you> > > > believe me with the degrees chart in front of you. add a few minutes> > more to> > > > this and you can safelt tell the native what must have happened when in> > his> > > > life and what could be expected when.after all the natives do not come> > to us> > > > for generalisations but for predictions. I had given these results when> > i> > > > had laid down for the Placement of Mars in 2nd house, a few messages> > ago-> > > > Not good for Mothers health or Domestic bless.> > > > If Leo and sun is afflicted then the natives heart would also be a> > problem> > > > after middle age. Mother can die during Mars period.> > > >> > > > *We will take another placement for the same Aries nativity. *> > > >> > > > Mars placed in 6th house.> > > >> > > > again to have taurus navamsha one needs mars to be in degrees 13.20 to> > > > 16.40. mars is lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 6th. So automatic 1,6, and> > 8> > > > would give give disease and surgery this point must strike the mind> > > > immediately in few seconds. But why mother may die ? the above degrees> > are> > > > ruled by moon who is lord of the 4th house. So connect this and you> > have the> > > > predictions immediately. You can expand on home , House, land property,> > > > studies etc. whatever query is put by the native, the answer would> > depend> > > > only on these base figures. I had given these results for the mars> > placement> > > > in 6th house> > > > Will suffer operation in this period of Mars antardasha.> > > > can earn good money through insurance. Mother may die> > > > during this period or be hospitalised.> > > > here why i had mentioned would earn good money through insurance ?> > Because> > > > the 8th house concerns death and the 6th house concerns commissions.> > Those> > > > astrologers who know to take advantages of such combinations in all> > periods> > > > can be winners. ( Astrologers can also do good with the transits if> > they> > > > know how to use them effectively )> > > >> > > > *I will take one last placement as an example, because i have to do my> > > > other duties too.*> > > >> > > > Mars placed in 11th in natal chart for Aries nativity with taurus> > navamsha.> > > >> > > > here the degrees of Mars must be between 23.20 and 26.40 to land in> > taurus> > > > navamsha.> > > >> > > > mars is lord of 1 and 8, placed in 11th. sounds good and bad both. good> > > > because 11th is house of gains and lagna lord placed in 11th house> > produces> > > > a Great dhana yoga. Is it not ? but first of all dont forget that 11th> > is> > > > the badhaksthana for this Lagna. next the native may have a breaking of> > his> > > > leg because the 11th house means portion below the knees ( calves ),> > the> > > > above degrees are ruled by jupiter who is Lord of 9th and 12th for this> > > > chart. now when 12th is running simultaneously with 8th, it may show> > > > accident and hospitalisation. this period may also show death for the> > > > father if native is middle aged. why ? because when the 8th gets> > activated,> > > > remember that it is the 12th counted from the father house which is the> > > > 9th. the 8th house is also the house of scandals and allegations while> > the> > > > 12th when running simultaenously can bring this scandal to the legal> > front> > > > and put the person behind bars. You may expand on this.> > > >> > > > To the person who can do nakshatra based predictions , it can be just a> > > > matter of few minutes to study about the whole life of a nativity, on a> > > > single sheet of paper, and predict effectively what would happen when,> > and> > > > his predictions would be true upto 80% if he is good, if not more. You> > dont> > > > have to see any divisonal chart , because you already have the degrees> > to> > > > guide you, so need to draw a diagram and put the planet in it .> > Divisional> > > > charts are nothing but the degrees translated into diagramaatical> > > > representation for the astrologer to be more comfortable with. But once> > you> > > > become familiar with the art of prediction, then you dont need> > > > diagrammatical representations or charts. For instance, I rarely see> > the> > > > charts, but only see the degrees. Chart is automatically formed in the> > mind.> > > >> > > >> > > > I have few members calling me on my personal id and sms. Please do not> > do> > > > this because i dont keep much friendships, and those few with whom i> > do, it> > > > is based totally on truthfulness in communications between us. whatever> > > > communication has to be done, let it be here on these Forums.> > > >> > > > I leave you now to study your own charts with the above mentioned> > approach.> > > >> > > > best wishes,> > > >> > > > bhaskar.> > > >> > > > *N.B.* i wished to put some more of such techniques of predictions, but> > i> > > > find most of the peoplle are not particvipating or excersising their> > brains,> > > > and everyone wishes to teach here or comment. no one wants to be a> > learner.> > > > For me I am going to be a learner all my Life, and also share with> > those> > > > interested like You did, and am still learning many techniques under> > > > guidance of people more better and learned then me who maybe My gurus> > or my> > > > contemporaries does not matter to me. If one has to offer learn. If you> > have> > > > to offer share. I have said many times before, those who learn to give> > ,> > > > will always get.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >>

August 1, 2008

Further -

One may also apply the Nadi techniques here if one

wishes to know how the planets would behave, without

looking for the prediction part.

For instance -

Jupiter and mercury are both Sathvik planets, and if

sattvic planets deposited in own constellations , they

would yield benefic results. Because if they acquire

own Guna, then its the best.

One may also refer the Neecha navamsha and Ucha

navamsha positions of all the planets, for knowing whether

rajyoga is available or not.

The Gunas are important aspect of astrology and cannot

be missed.

Example-

Pisces Lagna

Mars in P.Bhadra -Pada 3

Jupiter in Rohini - pada 2

Jupiter is in Rajasic Guna.

Mars is in satvik guna.

any planet deposited in constellation of yogkaraka

would yield Raj yoga when its period comes.

here mars and Jupiter both yield rajyoga.

The Quadruplicities, Triplicities and the Polarities are a very important basic lessons to be overcome to decode , before one jumps to Predictive astrology as we mostly all do, after skipping over these basics, which we find boring to study, and fail to realise, that without these 80% astrology would be guess work and nothing ( At least for all traditional astrologers ). Which is why i was ineterested to start from the basics and have class roooms in this forum, but the participation being less, its difficult to give time . I personally always like to go back to the primary lessons which i too skipped in my early days in astrology ( Though cleared the exams, but passing any exam is not the criteria for knowing and applying the knowledge known

effectively ), as wanted to learn spectacular predictions in my zeal to move forward fast.

So all of us must try to strengthen our basics.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises wrote:>> > Dear Shivamji,> > A good question, shows that you are now applying your mind in a proper> manner, intended to , for any research oriented student of astrology. (> And we all of us are after all students. its not easy to be a Master,> and theres no definition of a Master in such matters as of astrology . )> > Planet in own constellation> > Any planet in its own constellation, the results of its Placement and> Ownerships of the houses it lords over, would be reinforced or shown> prominent in his life, during the main or sub periods of this Planet.> For instance Mercury in 5th for a Leo ascendant, if in own> constellation, would re-inforce the effects of the native - Making lakhs> or millions through speculation , in the share markets.> > Planet in constellation of any Nodes - rahu or ketu> > Now suppose this mercury would have been in the 5th house but placed in> Rahus constellation, then how to decode the results ?> > Note down rahus house where placed. Note> Rahu is in which constellation and what does the owner of that> constellation represent ? Note if any planet> is conjoint with Rahu within 4 degrees and not down what that planet> represents. ( Even if this planet within 4 degrees is in another sign> still it would be treated as conjunct,remember, because there are no> walls in the sky ).> > Note which planets are aspecting Rahu and note which houses do they> represent. Note the> sign Lord in which rahu is placed, what houses does it represent.> > The net result of above would represent what Sun would result being in> Rahus constellation. Suppose Rahu represents the houses of gains,> wealth, 2nd 11th or 6th, then the native would get the same results what> we predicted for mercury constellation, or else if 5, 8 or 12, then he> would suffer losses and must be advised not to invest in share Markets.> > The astrologer who has reached this stage, its not long before he could> predict easily uptil 70% of what is required .> > best wishes,> > bhaskar.> > > > > > > , "Shivam Omar"> oshivam@ wrote:> >> > Dear BhaskarJI,> > Thanks for providing more examples of the technique. It made the> tecnique> > more clear and transparent. In the process, I developed one more> doubt. What> > if the lagna lord is in its own nakshatra in its own house (sun at> 26.40 to> > 29.99 degree leo or Rahu at 6.40 to 20 degree aquarious). In this case> how> > we will expand the technique, because here we have no other house to> relate.> >> >> > Thanks,> > Shivam> >> > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Shivamji,> > >> > > My efforts in posting a write-up pays, when somebody reads that and> > > applies the same. Thank You.> > >> > > Now coming to your query. Yes the nakshatra dispositor is the planet> which> > > would actually show what the results any planet would give. The> planet would> > > show the source .> > >> > > *Imaginary example*> > >> > > Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th house> and in> > > naskhatra of Venus. Now venus is the lord of 6th house and 11th> house. so> > > the results would be Money, gains through property or commissions> related to> > > property. Because 6th shows money received due to transaction or> services,> > > and 11th shows gains.> > >> > > Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in> nakshatra of> > > venus. The results would be the same. Commissions and money> received.> > > But the source would change. Because now saturn is is placed inthe> 3rd house> > > which denotes writing, communications, computers, author, wriiten> artcilces,> > > novels, printing etc. So the native would earn Money certainly, but> now the> > > source would change.> > >> > > In the same way you can treat for Moon as asked in your query.> > >> > > Any astrologer who understands this does not need, any Chart or> lengthy> > > explanations or hundreds of rules, or contradictions or many books> to check> > > results. Commonsense,practise and logic is needed in the analysis> alongwith> > > intuitions.> > >> > > Mars 140 degrees 20 minutes 40 seconds placed in 5th house should be> > > enough for a good practioner of this science , to predict the> results in few> > > seconds ( Not minutes ), what others may take 2 days to give after> spending> > > hours and hours of their time and efforts in multitudes of various> > > divisional charts and applying of hundreds of rules. Because the> above info> > > encases, Lagna, navamsha details, and also much smaller divisions of> the> > > divisional charts too, for any keen astrological mind.> > >> > > And one does not need paper, pen or books to predict. one can even> > > calculate the Vimsottari dasha on fingers, and everything else said> above,> > > if he is given the above small information, which is enough.> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "Shivam Omar"> oshivam@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > > > It is indeed a great writeup for the learners of predictive> astrology> > > like> > > > me. Thanks for all your effort in writing the same. I have got a> small> > > > question based on this article. As you have mentioned Mars being> at 13.20> > > to> > > > 16.40 degrees in Taurus, moon will be the nakshatra lord and> through moon> > > > one can relate 2nd, 4th and 8th house. If Mars would have been in> Aries,> > > > Taurus or Gemini Navamansha (and in Taurus at Lagna Chart), then> also> > > > results should have been same as Mars in Taurus Navamansha,> Because> > > > Nakshatra dispositor of Mars is the same Moon. This means only the> > > Nakshatra> > > > of the planet determines the results. Am I correct in my> understanding?> > > >> > > > Thanks,> > > > Shivam> > > >> > > > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Neelamji,> > > > >> > > > > My last take on this thread, no sense of waiting for more> inputs. I> > > liked> > > > > the way you made efforts to understand this, by drawing a> navamsa chart> > > and> > > > > understanding it personally without being told about the absence> of> > > Taurus> > > > > navamsha for the watery signs . And i wish You to understand> this> > > fully, so> > > > > that you need no one, no books or any other material to> understand the> > > > > decoding of the navamsha for - Predictive astrology. This would> be my> > > gift> > > > > to a excersising mind. Others those who may be interested must> read> > > this> > > > > properly, because here is shown the best technique of> prediction.> > > > >> > > > > *Examples.*> > > > >> > > > > For instance for a Aries nativity Mars in the 2nd house in natal> chart> > > in> > > > > taurus navamsha would mean mars is having the degrees between> 13.20 to> > > 16.40> > > > > degrees. ( If mars is any other degrees it would not get taurus> > > Navamsha) So> > > > > how do we get to predictive part ? Mars is Lord of 1 and 8 and> placed> > > in 2.> > > > > First of all he may have loss of wealth as well as throat> problems.> > > also> > > > > elder brother of mother may have problem . also his family peace> may be> > > > > shattered. he may have headaches or problems related to face.> Next part> > > we> > > > > must move to the degrees. This is ruled by which planet we must> see .> > > it is> > > > > ruled by moon. What role does moon have to play in the Aries> nativity> > > chart> > > > > ? It is ruler of the 4th house. When you connect the 4th house> wuith> > > the> > > > > 8th and the 2nd. what do you get ? Problems to mother. problems> related> > > to> > > > > breast or chest. this is how one predicts. i am in habit of> doing this> > > > > in few minutes for the whole chart because this is what i am> doing for> > > last> > > > > 2 years continously. In fact one does not have to see the> navamsha> > > chart> > > > > itself. you just see the degrees and start predicting. Most of> my> > > whole-life> > > > > predictions to my clients are based on a single sheet of data,> without> > > any> > > > > recourse needed for referring 20 charts or sheets of paper. And> the> > > nutshell> > > > > of a persons life in all areas opens up just within few seconds> if you> > > > > believe me with the degrees chart in front of you. add a few> minutes> > > more to> > > > > this and you can safelt tell the native what must have happened> when in> > > his> > > > > life and what could be expected when.after all the natives do> not come> > > to us> > > > > for generalisations but for predictions. I had given these> results when> > > i> > > > > had laid down for the Placement of Mars in 2nd house, a few> messages> > > ago-> > > > > Not good for Mothers health or Domestic bless.> > > > > If Leo and sun is afflicted then the natives heart would also be> a> > > problem> > > > > after middle age. Mother can die during Mars period.> > > > >> > > > > *We will take another placement for the same Aries nativity. *> > > > >> > > > > Mars placed in 6th house.> > > > >> > > > > again to have taurus navamsha one needs mars to be in degrees> 13.20 to> > > > > 16.40. mars is lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 6th. So automatic> 1,6, and> > > 8> > > > > would give give disease and surgery this point must strike the> mind> > > > > immediately in few seconds. But why mother may die ? the above> degrees> > > are> > > > > ruled by moon who is lord of the 4th house. So connect this and> you> > > have the> > > > > predictions immediately. You can expand on home , House, land> property,> > > > > studies etc. whatever query is put by the native, the answer> would> > > depend> > > > > only on these base figures. I had given these results for the> mars> > > placement> > > > > in 6th house> > > > > Will suffer operation in this period of Mars antardasha.> > > > > can earn good money through insurance. Mother may die> > > > > during this period or be hospitalised.> > > > > here why i had mentioned would earn good money through insurance> ?> > > Because> > > > > the 8th house concerns death and the 6th house concerns> commissions.> > > Those> > > > > astrologers who know to take advantages of such combinations in> all> > > periods> > > > > can be winners. ( Astrologers can also do good with the transits> if> > > they> > > > > know how to use them effectively )> > > > >> > > > > *I will take one last placement as an example, because i have to> do my> > > > > other duties too.*> > > > >> > > > > Mars placed in 11th in natal chart for Aries nativity with> taurus> > > navamsha.> > > > >> > > > > here the degrees of Mars must be between 23.20 and 26.40 to land> in> > > taurus> > > > > navamsha.> > > > >> > > > > mars is lord of 1 and 8, placed in 11th. sounds good and bad> both. good> > > > > because 11th is house of gains and lagna lord placed in 11th> house> > > produces> > > > > a Great dhana yoga. Is it not ? but first of all dont forget> that 11th> > > is> > > > > the badhaksthana for this Lagna. next the native may have a> breaking of> > > his> > > > > leg because the 11th house means portion below the knees (> calves ),> > > the> > > > > above degrees are ruled by jupiter who is Lord of 9th and 12th> for this> > > > > chart. now when 12th is running simultaneously with 8th, it may> show> > > > > accident and hospitalisation. this period may also show death> for the> > > > > father if native is middle aged. why ? because when the 8th gets> > > activated,> > > > > remember that it is the 12th counted from the father house which> is the> > > > > 9th. the 8th house is also the house of scandals and allegations> while> > > the> > > > > 12th when running simultaenously can bring this scandal to the> legal> > > front> > > > > and put the person behind bars. You may expand on this.> > > > >> > > > > To the person who can do nakshatra based predictions , it can be> just a> > > > > matter of few minutes to study about the whole life of a> nativity, on a> > > > > single sheet of paper, and predict effectively what would happen> when,> > > and> > > > > his predictions would be true upto 80% if he is good, if not> more. You> > > dont> > > > > have to see any divisonal chart , because you already have the> degrees> > > to> > > > > guide you, so need to draw a diagram and put the planet in it .> > > Divisional> > > > > charts are nothing but the degrees translated into> diagramaatical> > > > > representation for the astrologer to be more comfortable with.> But once> > > you> > > > > become familiar with the art of prediction, then you dont need> > > > > diagrammatical representations or charts. For instance, I rarely> see> > > the> > > > > charts, but only see the degrees. Chart is automatically formed> in the> > > mind.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I have few members calling me on my personal id and sms. Please> do not> > > do> > > > > this because i dont keep much friendships, and those few with> whom i> > > do, it> > > > > is based totally on truthfulness in communications between us.> whatever> > > > > communication has to be done, let it be here on these Forums.> > > > >> > > > > I leave you now to study your own charts with the above> mentioned> > > approach.> > > > >> > > > > best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > *N.B.* i wished to put some more of such techniques of> predictions, but> > > i> > > > > find most of the peoplle are not particvipating or excersising> their> > > brains,> > > > > and everyone wishes to teach here or comment. no one wants to be> a> > > learner.> > > > > For me I am going to be a learner all my Life, and also share> with> > > those> > > > > interested like You did, and am still learning many techniques> under> > > > > guidance of people more better and learned then me who maybe My> gurus> > > or my> > > > > contemporaries does not matter to me. If one has to offer learn.> If you> > > have> > > > > to offer share. I have said many times before, those who learn> to give> > > ,> > > > > will always get.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >>

August 1, 2008

Dear Bhaskar ji,//Jupiter and mercury are both Sathvik planets//Please don't think that I am being picky but since your statements are taken seriously by the group, and it does look like a definitive statement, it should stand corrected, if there is any error.

I thought luminaries and jupiter are satwik,venus and mercury rajsik and mars and saturn tamsik.

RegardsNeelam2008/8/1 Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

Further -

One may also apply the Nadi techniques here if one

wishes to know how the planets would behave, without

looking for the prediction part.

For instance -

Jupiter and mercury are both Sathvik planets, and if

sattvic planets deposited in own constellations , they

would yield benefic results. Because if they acquire

own Guna, then its the best.

One may also refer the Neecha navamsha and Ucha

navamsha positions of all the planets, for knowing whether

rajyoga is available or not.

The Gunas are important aspect of astrology and cannot

be missed.

Example-

Pisces Lagna

Mars in P.Bhadra -Pada 3

Jupiter in Rohini - pada 2

Jupiter is in Rajasic Guna.

Mars is in satvik guna.

any planet deposited in constellation of yogkaraka

would yield Raj yoga when its period comes.

here mars and Jupiter both yield rajyoga.

The Quadruplicities, Triplicities and the Polarities are a very important basic lessons to be overcome to decode , before one jumps to Predictive astrology as we mostly all do, after skipping over these basics, which we find boring to study, and fail to realise, that without these 80% astrology would be guess work and nothing ( At least for all traditional astrologers ). Which is why i was ineterested to start from the basics and have class roooms in this forum, but the participation being less, its difficult to give time . I personally always like to go back to the primary lessons which i too skipped in my early days in astrology ( Though cleared the exams, but passing any exam is not the criteria for knowing and applying the knowledge known

effectively ), as wanted to learn spectacular predictions in my zeal to move forward fast.

So all of us must try to strengthen our basics.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote:>> > Dear Shivamji,

> > A good question, shows that you are now applying your mind in a proper> manner, intended to , for any research oriented student of astrology. (> And we all of us are after all students. its not easy to be a Master,

> and theres no definition of a Master in such matters as of astrology . )> > Planet in own constellation> > Any planet in its own constellation, the results of its Placement and> Ownerships of the houses it lords over, would be reinforced or shown

> prominent in his life, during the main or sub periods of this Planet.> For instance Mercury in 5th for a Leo ascendant, if in own> constellation, would re-inforce the effects of the native - Making lakhs

> or millions through speculation , in the share markets.> > Planet in constellation of any Nodes - rahu or ketu> > Now suppose this mercury would have been in the 5th house but placed in

> Rahus constellation, then how to decode the results ?> > Note down rahus house where placed. Note> Rahu is in which constellation and what does the owner of that> constellation represent ? Note if any planet

> is conjoint with Rahu within 4 degrees and not down what that planet> represents. ( Even if this planet within 4 degrees is in another sign> still it would be treated as conjunct,remember, because there are no

> walls in the sky ).> > Note which planets are aspecting Rahu and note which houses do they> represent. Note the> sign Lord in which rahu is placed, what houses does it represent.>

> The net result of above would represent what Sun would result being in> Rahus constellation. Suppose Rahu represents the houses of gains,> wealth, 2nd 11th or 6th, then the native would get the same results what

> we predicted for mercury constellation, or else if 5, 8 or 12, then he> would suffer losses and must be advised not to invest in share Markets.> > The astrologer who has reached this stage, its not long before he could

> predict easily uptil 70% of what is required .> > best wishes,> > bhaskar.> > > > > > > , " Shivam Omar "

> oshivam@ wrote:> >> > Dear BhaskarJI,> > Thanks for providing more examples of the technique. It made the> tecnique> > more clear and transparent. In the process, I developed one more

> doubt. What> > if the lagna lord is in its own nakshatra in its own house (sun at> 26.40 to> > 29.99 degree leo or Rahu at 6.40 to 20 degree aquarious). In this case> how> > we will expand the technique, because here we have no other house to

> relate.> >> >> > Thanks,> > Shivam> >> > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Shivamji,> > >

> > > My efforts in posting a write-up pays, when somebody reads that and> > > applies the same. Thank You.> > >> > > Now coming to your query. Yes the nakshatra dispositor is the planet

> which> > > would actually show what the results any planet would give. The> planet would> > > show the source .> > >> > > *Imaginary example*> > >

> > > Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th house> and in> > > naskhatra of Venus. Now venus is the lord of 6th house and 11th> house. so> > > the results would be Money, gains through property or commissions

> related to> > > property. Because 6th shows money received due to transaction or> services,> > > and 11th shows gains.> > >> > > Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in

> nakshatra of> > > venus. The results would be the same. Commissions and money> received.> > > But the source would change. Because now saturn is is placed inthe> 3rd house> > > which denotes writing, communications, computers, author, wriiten

> artcilces,> > > novels, printing etc. So the native would earn Money certainly, but> now the> > > source would change.> > >> > > In the same way you can treat for Moon as asked in your query.

> > >> > > Any astrologer who understands this does not need, any Chart or> lengthy> > > explanations or hundreds of rules, or contradictions or many books> to check> > > results. Commonsense,practise and logic is needed in the analysis

> alongwith> > > intuitions.> > >> > > Mars 140 degrees 20 minutes 40 seconds placed in 5th house should be> > > enough for a good practioner of this science , to predict the

> results in few> > > seconds ( Not minutes ), what others may take 2 days to give after> spending> > > hours and hours of their time and efforts in multitudes of various> > > divisional charts and applying of hundreds of rules. Because the

> above info> > > encases, Lagna, navamsha details, and also much smaller divisions of> the> > > divisional charts too, for any keen astrological mind.> > >> > > And one does not need paper, pen or books to predict. one can even

> > > calculate the Vimsottari dasha on fingers, and everything else said> above,> > > if he is given the above small information, which is enough.> > >> > > regards,

> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , " Shivam Omar "

> oshivam@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > > > It is indeed a great writeup for the learners of predictive> astrology> > > like

> > > > me. Thanks for all your effort in writing the same. I have got a> small> > > > question based on this article. As you have mentioned Mars being> at 13.20> > > to

> > > > 16.40 degrees in Taurus, moon will be the nakshatra lord and> through moon> > > > one can relate 2nd, 4th and 8th house. If Mars would have been in> Aries,> > > > Taurus or Gemini Navamansha (and in Taurus at Lagna Chart), then

> also> > > > results should have been same as Mars in Taurus Navamansha,> Because> > > > Nakshatra dispositor of Mars is the same Moon. This means only the> > > Nakshatra

> > > > of the planet determines the results. Am I correct in my> understanding?> > > >> > > > Thanks,> > > > Shivam> > > >> > > > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:

> > > > >> > > > > Dear Neelamji,> > > > >> > > > > My last take on this thread, no sense of waiting for more> inputs. I> > > liked

> > > > > the way you made efforts to understand this, by drawing a> navamsa chart> > > and> > > > > understanding it personally without being told about the absence

> of> > > Taurus> > > > > navamsha for the watery signs . And i wish You to understand> this> > > fully, so> > > > > that you need no one, no books or any other material to

> understand the> > > > > decoding of the navamsha for - Predictive astrology. This would> be my> > > gift> > > > > to a excersising mind. Others those who may be interested must

> read> > > this> > > > > properly, because here is shown the best technique of> prediction.> > > > >> > > > > *Examples.*> > > > >

> > > > > For instance for a Aries nativity Mars in the 2nd house in natal> chart> > > in> > > > > taurus navamsha would mean mars is having the degrees between> 13.20 to

> > > 16.40> > > > > degrees. ( If mars is any other degrees it would not get taurus> > > Navamsha) So> > > > > how do we get to predictive part ? Mars is Lord of 1 and 8 and

> placed> > > in 2.> > > > > First of all he may have loss of wealth as well as throat> problems.> > > also> > > > > elder brother of mother may have problem . also his family peace

> may be> > > > > shattered. he may have headaches or problems related to face.> Next part> > > we> > > > > must move to the degrees. This is ruled by which planet we must

> see .> > > it is> > > > > ruled by moon. What role does moon have to play in the Aries> nativity> > > chart> > > > > ? It is ruler of the 4th house. When you connect the 4th house

> wuith> > > the> > > > > 8th and the 2nd. what do you get ? Problems to mother. problems> related> > > to> > > > > breast or chest. this is how one predicts. i am in habit of

> doing this> > > > > in few minutes for the whole chart because this is what i am> doing for> > > last> > > > > 2 years continously. In fact one does not have to see the

> navamsha> > > chart> > > > > itself. you just see the degrees and start predicting. Most of> my> > > whole-life> > > > > predictions to my clients are based on a single sheet of data,

> without> > > any> > > > > recourse needed for referring 20 charts or sheets of paper. And> the> > > nutshell> > > > > of a persons life in all areas opens up just within few seconds

> if you> > > > > believe me with the degrees chart in front of you. add a few> minutes> > > more to> > > > > this and you can safelt tell the native what must have happened

> when in> > > his> > > > > life and what could be expected when.after all the natives do> not come> > > to us> > > > > for generalisations but for predictions. I had given these

> results when> > > i> > > > > had laid down for the Placement of Mars in 2nd house, a few> messages> > > ago-> > > > > Not good for Mothers health or Domestic bless.

> > > > > If Leo and sun is afflicted then the natives heart would also be> a> > > problem> > > > > after middle age. Mother can die during Mars period.> > > > >

> > > > > *We will take another placement for the same Aries nativity. *> > > > >> > > > > Mars placed in 6th house.> > > > >> > > > > again to have taurus navamsha one needs mars to be in degrees

> 13.20 to> > > > > 16.40. mars is lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 6th. So automatic> 1,6, and> > > 8> > > > > would give give disease and surgery this point must strike the

> mind> > > > > immediately in few seconds. But why mother may die ? the above> degrees> > > are> > > > > ruled by moon who is lord of the 4th house. So connect this and

> you> > > have the> > > > > predictions immediately. You can expand on home , House, land> property,> > > > > studies etc. whatever query is put by the native, the answer

> would> > > depend> > > > > only on these base figures. I had given these results for the> mars> > > placement> > > > > in 6th house> > > > > Will suffer operation in this period of Mars antardasha.

> > > > > can earn good money through insurance. Mother may die> > > > > during this period or be hospitalised.> > > > > here why i had mentioned would earn good money through insurance

> ?> > > Because> > > > > the 8th house concerns death and the 6th house concerns> commissions.> > > Those> > > > > astrologers who know to take advantages of such combinations in

> all> > > periods> > > > > can be winners. ( Astrologers can also do good with the transits> if> > > they> > > > > know how to use them effectively )

> > > > >> > > > > *I will take one last placement as an example, because i have to> do my> > > > > other duties too.*> > > > >> > > > > Mars placed in 11th in natal chart for Aries nativity with

> taurus> > > navamsha.> > > > >> > > > > here the degrees of Mars must be between 23.20 and 26.40 to land> in> > > taurus> > > > > navamsha.

> > > > >> > > > > mars is lord of 1 and 8, placed in 11th. sounds good and bad> both. good> > > > > because 11th is house of gains and lagna lord placed in 11th

> house> > > produces> > > > > a Great dhana yoga. Is it not ? but first of all dont forget> that 11th> > > is> > > > > the badhaksthana for this Lagna. next the native may have a

> breaking of> > > his> > > > > leg because the 11th house means portion below the knees (> calves ),> > > the> > > > > above degrees are ruled by jupiter who is Lord of 9th and 12th

> for this> > > > > chart. now when 12th is running simultaneously with 8th, it may> show> > > > > accident and hospitalisation. this period may also show death> for the

> > > > > father if native is middle aged. why ? because when the 8th gets> > > activated,> > > > > remember that it is the 12th counted from the father house which> is the

> > > > > 9th. the 8th house is also the house of scandals and allegations> while> > > the> > > > > 12th when running simultaenously can bring this scandal to the> legal

> > > front> > > > > and put the person behind bars. You may expand on this.> > > > >> > > > > To the person who can do nakshatra based predictions , it can be

> just a> > > > > matter of few minutes to study about the whole life of a> nativity, on a> > > > > single sheet of paper, and predict effectively what would happen> when,

> > > and> > > > > his predictions would be true upto 80% if he is good, if not> more. You> > > dont> > > > > have to see any divisonal chart , because you already have the

> degrees> > > to> > > > > guide you, so need to draw a diagram and put the planet in it .> > > Divisional> > > > > charts are nothing but the degrees translated into

> diagramaatical> > > > > representation for the astrologer to be more comfortable with.> But once> > > you> > > > > become familiar with the art of prediction, then you dont need

> > > > > diagrammatical representations or charts. For instance, I rarely> see> > > the> > > > > charts, but only see the degrees. Chart is automatically formed> in the

> > > mind.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I have few members calling me on my personal id and sms. Please> do not> > > do> > > > > this because i dont keep much friendships, and those few with

> whom i> > > do, it> > > > > is based totally on truthfulness in communications between us.> whatever> > > > > communication has to be done, let it be here on these Forums.

> > > > >> > > > > I leave you now to study your own charts with the above> mentioned> > > approach.> > > > >> > > > > best wishes,

> > > > >> > > > > bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > *N.B.* i wished to put some more of such techniques of> predictions, but> > > i

> > > > > find most of the peoplle are not particvipating or excersising> their> > > brains,> > > > > and everyone wishes to teach here or comment. no one wants to be

> a> > > learner.> > > > > For me I am going to be a learner all my Life, and also share> with> > > those> > > > > interested like You did, and am still learning many techniques

> under> > > > > guidance of people more better and learned then me who maybe My> gurus> > > or my> > > > > contemporaries does not matter to me. If one has to offer learn.

> If you> > > have> > > > > to offer share. I have said many times before, those who learn> to give> > > ,> > > > > will always get.> > > > >

> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >>

August 1, 2008

Dear Neelamji,

Of course you are right.

That is what has been taught to us.

regards/Bhaskar.

, "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji,> > //Jupiter and mercury are both Sathvik planets//> > Please don't think that I am being picky but since your statements are taken> seriously by the group, and it does look like a definitive statement, it> should stand corrected, if there is any error.> I thought luminaries and jupiter are satwik,> venus and mercury rajsik and mars and saturn tamsik.> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2008/8/1 Bhaskar rajiventerprises > > *Further -*> > One may also apply the Nadi techniques here if one> > wishes to know how the planets would behave, without> > looking for the prediction part.> >> > *For instance -*> >> > Jupiter and mercury are both Sathvik planets, and if> > sattvic planets deposited in own constellations , they> > would yield benefic results. Because if they acquire> > own Guna, then its the best.> >> > One may also refer the Neecha navamsha and Ucha> > navamsha positions of all the planets, for knowing whether> > rajyoga is available or not.> >> > The Gunas are important aspect of astrology and cannot> > be missed.> >> > *Example-*> > Pisces Lagna> > Mars in P.Bhadra -Pada 3> > Jupiter in Rohini - pada 2> > Jupiter is in Rajasic Guna.> > Mars is in satvik guna.> > any planet deposited in constellation of yogkaraka> > would yield Raj yoga when its period comes.> > here mars and Jupiter both yield rajyoga.> >> > *The Quadruplicities, Triplicities and the Polarities* are a very important> > basic lessons to be overcome to decode , before one jumps to Predictive> > astrology as we mostly all do, after skipping over these basics, which we> > find boring to study, and fail to realise, that without these 80%> > astrology would be guess work and nothing ( At least for all traditional> > astrologers ). Which is why i was ineterested to start from the basics and> > have class roooms in this forum, but the participation being less, its> > difficult to give> > time .> > I personally always like to go back to the primary lessons which i too> > skipped in my early days in astrology ( Though cleared the exams,> > but passing any exam is not the criteria for knowing and applying the> > knowledge known> > effectively ), as wanted to learn spectacular predictions in my zeal to> > move forward fast.> >> > So all of us must try to strengthen our basics.> >> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "Bhaskar"> > rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Shivamji,> > >> > > A good question, shows that you are now applying your mind in a proper> > > manner, intended to , for any research oriented student of astrology. (> > > And we all of us are after all students. its not easy to be a Master,> > > and theres no definition of a Master in such matters as of astrology . )> > >> > > Planet in own constellation> > >> > > Any planet in its own constellation, the results of its Placement and> > > Ownerships of the houses it lords over, would be reinforced or shown> > > prominent in his life, during the main or sub periods of this Planet.> > > For instance Mercury in 5th for a Leo ascendant, if in own> > > constellation, would re-inforce the effects of the native - Making lakhs> > > or millions through speculation , in the share markets.> > >> > > Planet in constellation of any Nodes - rahu or ketu> > >> > > Now suppose this mercury would have been in the 5th house but placed in> > > Rahus constellation, then how to decode the results ?> > >> > > Note down rahus house where placed. Note> > > Rahu is in which constellation and what does the owner of that> > > constellation represent ? Note if any planet> > > is conjoint with Rahu within 4 degrees and not down what that planet> > > represents. ( Even if this planet within 4 degrees is in another sign> > > still it would be treated as conjunct,remember, because there are no> > > walls in the sky ).> > >> > > Note which planets are aspecting Rahu and note which houses do they> > > represent. Note the> > > sign Lord in which rahu is placed, what houses does it represent.> > >> > > The net result of above would represent what Sun would result being in> > > Rahus constellation. Suppose Rahu represents the houses of gains,> > > wealth, 2nd 11th or 6th, then the native would get the same results what> > > we predicted for mercury constellation, or else if 5, 8 or 12, then he> > > would suffer losses and must be advised not to invest in share Markets.> > >> > > The astrologer who has reached this stage, its not long before he could> > > predict easily uptil 70% of what is required .> > >> > > best wishes,> > >> > > bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "Shivam Omar"> > > oshivam@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear BhaskarJI,> > > > Thanks for providing more examples of the technique. It made the> > > tecnique> > > > more clear and transparent. In the process, I developed one more> > > doubt. What> > > > if the lagna lord is in its own nakshatra in its own house (sun at> > > 26.40 to> > > > 29.99 degree leo or Rahu at 6.40 to 20 degree aquarious). In this case> > > how> > > > we will expand the technique, because here we have no other house to> > > relate.> > > >> > > >> > > > Thanks,> > > > Shivam> > > >> > > > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shivamji,> > > > >> > > > > My efforts in posting a write-up pays, when somebody reads that and> > > > > applies the same. Thank You.> > > > >> > > > > Now coming to your query. Yes the nakshatra dispositor is the planet> > > which> > > > > would actually show what the results any planet would give. The> > > planet would> > > > > show the source .> > > > >> > > > > *Imaginary example*> > > > >> > > > > Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th house> > > and in> > > > > naskhatra of Venus. Now venus is the lord of 6th house and 11th> > > house. so> > > > > the results would be Money, gains through property or commissions> > > related to> > > > > property. Because 6th shows money received due to transaction or> > > services,> > > > > and 11th shows gains.> > > > >> > > > > Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in> > > nakshatra of> > > > > venus. The results would be the same. Commissions and money> > > received.> > > > > But the source would change. Because now saturn is is placed inthe> > > 3rd house> > > > > which denotes writing, communications, computers, author, wriiten> > > artcilces,> > > > > novels, printing etc. So the native would earn Money certainly, but> > > now the> > > > > source would change.> > > > >> > > > > In the same way you can treat for Moon as asked in your query.> > > > >> > > > > Any astrologer who understands this does not need, any Chart or> > > lengthy> > > > > explanations or hundreds of rules, or contradictions or many books> > > to check> > > > > results. Commonsense,practise and logic is needed in the analysis> > > alongwith> > > > > intuitions.> > > > >> > > > > Mars 140 degrees 20 minutes 40 seconds placed in 5th house should be> > > > > enough for a good practioner of this science , to predict the> > > results in few> > > > > seconds ( Not minutes ), what others may take 2 days to give after> > > spending> > > > > hours and hours of their time and efforts in multitudes of various> > > > > divisional charts and applying of hundreds of rules. Because the> > > above info> > > > > encases, Lagna, navamsha details, and also much smaller divisions of> > > the> > > > > divisional charts too, for any keen astrological mind.> > > > >> > > > > And one does not need paper, pen or books to predict. one can even> > > > > calculate the Vimsottari dasha on fingers, and everything else said> > > above,> > > > > if he is given the above small information, which is enough.> > > > >> > > > > regards,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "Shivam Omar"> > > oshivam@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > > > > > It is indeed a great writeup for the learners of predictive> > > astrology> > > > > like> > > > > > me. Thanks for all your effort in writing the same. I have got a> > > small> > > > > > question based on this article. As you have mentioned Mars being> > > at 13.20> > > > > to> > > > > > 16.40 degrees in Taurus, moon will be the nakshatra lord and> > > through moon> > > > > > one can relate 2nd, 4th and 8th house. If Mars would have been in> > > Aries,> > > > > > Taurus or Gemini Navamansha (and in Taurus at Lagna Chart), then> > > also> > > > > > results should have been same as Mars in Taurus Navamansha,> > > Because> > > > > > Nakshatra dispositor of Mars is the same Moon. This means only the> > > > > Nakshatra> > > > > > of the planet determines the results. Am I correct in my> > > understanding?> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > Shivam> > > > > >> > > > > > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Neelamji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > My last take on this thread, no sense of waiting for more> > > inputs. I> > > > > liked> > > > > > > the way you made efforts to understand this, by drawing a> > > navamsa chart> > > > > and> > > > > > > understanding it personally without being told about the absence> > > of> > > > > Taurus> > > > > > > navamsha for the watery signs . And i wish You to understand> > > this> > > > > fully, so> > > > > > > that you need no one, no books or any other material to> > > understand the> > > > > > > decoding of the navamsha for - Predictive astrology. This would> > > be my> > > > > gift> > > > > > > to a excersising mind. Others those who may be interested must> > > read> > > > > this> > > > > > > properly, because here is shown the best technique of> > > prediction.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *Examples.*> > > > > > >> > > > > > > For instance for a Aries nativity Mars in the 2nd house in natal> > > chart> > > > > in> > > > > > > taurus navamsha would mean mars is having the degrees between> > > 13.20 to> > > > > 16.40> > > > > > > degrees. ( If mars is any other degrees it would not get taurus> > > > > Navamsha) So> > > > > > > how do we get to predictive part ? Mars is Lord of 1 and 8 and> > > placed> > > > > in 2.> > > > > > > First of all he may have loss of wealth as well as throat> > > problems.> > > > > also> > > > > > > elder brother of mother may have problem . also his family peace> > > may be> > > > > > > shattered. he may have headaches or problems related to face.> > > Next part> > > > > we> > > > > > > must move to the degrees. This is ruled by which planet we must> > > see .> > > > > it is> > > > > > > ruled by moon. What role does moon have to play in the Aries> > > nativity> > > > > chart> > > > > > > ? It is ruler of the 4th house. When you connect the 4th house> > > wuith> > > > > the> > > > > > > 8th and the 2nd. what do you get ? Problems to mother. problems> > > related> > > > > to> > > > > > > breast or chest. this is how one predicts. i am in habit of> > > doing this> > > > > > > in few minutes for the whole chart because this is what i am> > > doing for> > > > > last> > > > > > > 2 years continously. In fact one does not have to see the> > > navamsha> > > > > chart> > > > > > > itself. you just see the degrees and start predicting. Most of> > > my> > > > > whole-life> > > > > > > predictions to my clients are based on a single sheet of data,> > > without> > > > > any> > > > > > > recourse needed for referring 20 charts or sheets of paper. And> > > the> > > > > nutshell> > > > > > > of a persons life in all areas opens up just within few seconds> > > if you> > > > > > > believe me with the degrees chart in front of you. add a few> > > minutes> > > > > more to> > > > > > > this and you can safelt tell the native what must have happened> > > when in> > > > > his> > > > > > > life and what could be expected when.after all the natives do> > > not come> > > > > to us> > > > > > > for generalisations but for predictions. I had given these> > > results when> > > > > i> > > > > > > had laid down for the Placement of Mars in 2nd house, a few> > > messages> > > > > ago-> > > > > > > Not good for Mothers health or Domestic bless.> > > > > > > If Leo and sun is afflicted then the natives heart would also be> > > a> > > > > problem> > > > > > > after middle age. Mother can die during Mars period.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *We will take another placement for the same Aries nativity. *> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Mars placed in 6th house.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > again to have taurus navamsha one needs mars to be in degrees> > > 13.20 to> > > > > > > 16.40. mars is lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 6th. So automatic> > > 1,6, and> > > > > 8> > > > > > > would give give disease and surgery this point must strike the> > > mind> > > > > > > immediately in few seconds. But why mother may die ? the above> > > degrees> > > > > are> > > > > > > ruled by moon who is lord of the 4th house. So connect this and> > > you> > > > > have the> > > > > > > predictions immediately. You can expand on home , House, land> > > property,> > > > > > > studies etc. whatever query is put by the native, the answer> > > would> > > > > depend> > > > > > > only on these base figures. I had given these results for the> > > mars> > > > > placement> > > > > > > in 6th house> > > > > > > Will suffer operation in this period of Mars antardasha.> > > > > > > can earn good money through insurance. Mother may die> > > > > > > during this period or be hospitalised.> > > > > > > here why i had mentioned would earn good money through insurance> > > ?> > > > > Because> > > > > > > the 8th house concerns death and the 6th house concerns> > > commissions.> > > > > Those> > > > > > > astrologers who know to take advantages of such combinations in> > > all> > > > > periods> > > > > > > can be winners. ( Astrologers can also do good with the transits> > > if> > > > > they> > > > > > > know how to use them effectively )> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *I will take one last placement as an example, because i have to> > > do my> > > > > > > other duties too.*> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Mars placed in 11th in natal chart for Aries nativity with> > > taurus> > > > > navamsha.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > here the degrees of Mars must be between 23.20 and 26.40 to land> > > in> > > > > taurus> > > > > > > navamsha.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > mars is lord of 1 and 8, placed in 11th. sounds good and bad> > > both. good> > > > > > > because 11th is house of gains and lagna lord placed in 11th> > > house> > > > > produces> > > > > > > a Great dhana yoga. Is it not ? but first of all dont forget> > > that 11th> > > > > is> > > > > > > the badhaksthana for this Lagna. next the native may have a> > > breaking of> > > > > his> > > > > > > leg because the 11th house means portion below the knees (> > > calves ),> > > > > the> > > > > > > above degrees are ruled by jupiter who is Lord of 9th and 12th> > > for this> > > > > > > chart. now when 12th is running simultaneously with 8th, it may> > > show> > > > > > > accident and hospitalisation. this period may also show death> > > for the> > > > > > > father if native is middle aged. why ? because when the 8th gets> > > > > activated,> > > > > > > remember that it is the 12th counted from the father house which> > > is the> > > > > > > 9th. the 8th house is also the house of scandals and allegations> > > while> > > > > the> > > > > > > 12th when running simultaenously can bring this scandal to the> > > legal> > > > > front> > > > > > > and put the person behind bars. You may expand on this.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > To the person who can do nakshatra based predictions , it can be> > > just a> > > > > > > matter of few minutes to study about the whole life of a> > > nativity, on a> > > > > > > single sheet of paper, and predict effectively what would happen> > > when,> > > > > and> > > > > > > his predictions would be true upto 80% if he is good, if not> > > more. You> > > > > dont> > > > > > > have to see any divisonal chart , because you already have the> > > degrees> > > > > to> > > > > > > guide you, so need to draw a diagram and put the planet in it .> > > > > Divisional> > > > > > > charts are nothing but the degrees translated into> > > diagramaatical> > > > > > > representation for the astrologer to be more comfortable with.> > > But once> > > > > you> > > > > > > become familiar with the art of prediction, then you dont need> > > > > > > diagrammatical representations or charts. For instance, I rarely> > > see> > > > > the> > > > > > > charts, but only see the degrees. Chart is automatically formed> > > in the> > > > > mind.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I have few members calling me on my personal id and sms. Please> > > do not> > > > > do> > > > > > > this because i dont keep much friendships, and those few with> > > whom i> > > > > do, it> > > > > > > is based totally on truthfulness in communications between us.> > > whatever> > > > > > > communication has to be done, let it be here on these Forums.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I leave you now to study your own charts with the above> > > mentioned> > > > > approach.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *N.B.* i wished to put some more of such techniques of> > > predictions, but> > > > > i> > > > > > > find most of the peoplle are not particvipating or excersising> > > their> > > > > brains,> > > > > > > and everyone wishes to teach here or comment. no one wants to be> > > a> > > > > learner.> > > > > > > For me I am going to be a learner all my Life, and also share> > > with> > > > > those> > > > > > > interested like You did, and am still learning many techniques> > > under> > > > > > > guidance of people more better and learned then me who maybe My> > > gurus> > > > > or my> > > > > > > contemporaries does not matter to me. If one has to offer learn.> > > If you> > > > > have> > > > > > > to offer share. I have said many times before, those who learn> > > to give> > > > > ,> > > > > > > will always get.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >>

August 2, 2008

Dear Bhaskar ji,

".........The net result of above would represent what Sun would result being in Rahus constellation. Suppose Rahu represents the houses of gains, wealth, 2nd 11th or 6th, then the native would get the same results what we predicted for mercury constellation, or else if 5, 8 or 12, then he would suffer losses and must be advised not to invest in share Markets".........

Please clarify if the net result of Rahu, makes Sun who is in Rahu's constellation, represent 5H, why would the native suffer losses etc....?

I find your write-ups on astrology as very useful lessons. So ..here I am a student asking you to clear my confusion.

blessings

Renu

, "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises wrote:>> > Dear Shivamji,> > A good question, shows that you are now applying your mind in a proper> manner, intended to , for any research oriented student of astrology. (> And we all of us are after all students. its not easy to be a Master,> and theres no definition of a Master in such matters as of astrology . )> > Planet in own constellation> > Any planet in its own constellation, the results of its Placement and> Ownerships of the houses it lords over, would be reinforced or shown> prominent in his life, during the main or sub periods of this Planet.> For instance Mercury in 5th for a Leo ascendant, if in own> constellation, would re-inforce the effects of the native - Making lakhs> or millions through speculation , in the share markets.> > Planet in constellation of any Nodes - rahu or ketu> > Now suppose this mercury would have been in the 5th house but placed in> Rahus constellation, then how to decode the results ?> > Note down rahus house where placed. Note> Rahu is in which constellation and what does the owner of that> constellation represent ? Note if any planet> is conjoint with Rahu within 4 degrees and not down what that planet> represents. ( Even if this planet within 4 degrees is in another sign> still it would be treated as conjunct,remember, because there are no> walls in the sky ).> > Note which planets are aspecting Rahu and note which houses do they> represent. Note the> sign Lord in which rahu is placed, what houses does it represent.> > The net result of above would represent what Sun would result being in> Rahus constellation. Suppose Rahu represents the houses of gains,> wealth, 2nd 11th or 6th, then the native would get the same results what> we predicted for mercury constellation, or else if 5, 8 or 12, then he> would suffer losses and must be advised not to invest in share Markets.> > The astrologer who has reached this stage, its not long before he could> predict easily uptil 70% of what is required .> > best wishes,> > bhaskar.> > > > > > > , "Shivam Omar"> oshivam@ wrote:> >> > Dear BhaskarJI,> > Thanks for providing more examples of the technique. It made the> tecnique> > more clear and transparent. In the process, I developed one more> doubt. What> > if the lagna lord is in its own nakshatra in its own house (sun at> 26.40 to> > 29.99 degree leo or Rahu at 6.40 to 20 degree aquarious). In this case> how> > we will expand the technique, because here we have no other house to> relate.> >> >> > Thanks,> > Shivam> >> > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Shivamji,> > >> > > My efforts in posting a write-up pays, when somebody reads that and> > > applies the same. Thank You.> > >> > > Now coming to your query. Yes the nakshatra dispositor is the planet> which> > > would actually show what the results any planet would give. The> planet would> > > show the source .> > >> > > *Imaginary example*> > >> > > Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th house> and in> > > naskhatra of Venus. Now venus is the lord of 6th house and 11th> house. so> > > the results would be Money, gains through property or commissions> related to> > > property. Because 6th shows money received due to transaction or> services,> > > and 11th shows gains.> > >> > > Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in> nakshatra of> > > venus. The results would be the same. Commissions and money> received.> > > But the source would change. Because now saturn is is placed inthe> 3rd house> > > which denotes writing, communications, computers, author, wriiten> artcilces,> > > novels, printing etc. So the native would earn Money certainly, but> now the> > > source would change.> > >> > > In the same way you can treat for Moon as asked in your query.> > >> > > Any astrologer who understands this does not need, any Chart or> lengthy> > > explanations or hundreds of rules, or contradictions or many books> to check> > > results. Commonsense,practise and logic is needed in the analysis> alongwith> > > intuitions.> > >> > > Mars 140 degrees 20 minutes 40 seconds placed in 5th house should be> > > enough for a good practioner of this science , to predict the> results in few> > > seconds ( Not minutes ), what others may take 2 days to give after> spending> > > hours and hours of their time and efforts in multitudes of various> > > divisional charts and applying of hundreds of rules. Because the> above info> > > encases, Lagna, navamsha details, and also much smaller divisions of> the> > > divisional charts too, for any keen astrological mind.> > >> > > And one does not need paper, pen or books to predict. one can even> > > calculate the Vimsottari dasha on fingers, and everything else said> above,> > > if he is given the above small information, which is enough.> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "Shivam Omar"> oshivam@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > > > It is indeed a great writeup for the learners of predictive> astrology> > > like> > > > me. Thanks for all your effort in writing the same. I have got a> small> > > > question based on this article. As you have mentioned Mars being> at 13.20> > > to> > > > 16.40 degrees in Taurus, moon will be the nakshatra lord and> through moon> > > > one can relate 2nd, 4th and 8th house. If Mars would have been in> Aries,> > > > Taurus or Gemini Navamansha (and in Taurus at Lagna Chart), then> also> > > > results should have been same as Mars in Taurus Navamansha,> Because> > > > Nakshatra dispositor of Mars is the same Moon. This means only the> > > Nakshatra> > > > of the planet determines the results. Am I correct in my> understanding?> > > >> > > > Thanks,> > > > Shivam> > > >> > > > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Neelamji,> > > > >> > > > > My last take on this thread, no sense of waiting for more> inputs. I> > > liked> > > > > the way you made efforts to understand this, by drawing a> navamsa chart> > > and> > > > > understanding it personally without being told about the absence> of> > > Taurus> > > > > navamsha for the watery signs . And i wish You to understand> this> > > fully, so> > > > > that you need no one, no books or any other material to> understand the> > > > > decoding of the navamsha for - Predictive astrology. This would> be my> > > gift> > > > > to a excersising mind. Others those who may be interested must> read> > > this> > > > > properly, because here is shown the best technique of> prediction.> > > > >> > > > > *Examples.*> > > > >> > > > > For instance for a Aries nativity Mars in the 2nd house in natal> chart> > > in> > > > > taurus navamsha would mean mars is having the degrees between> 13.20 to> > > 16.40> > > > > degrees. ( If mars is any other degrees it would not get taurus> > > Navamsha) So> > > > > how do we get to predictive part ? Mars is Lord of 1 and 8 and> placed> > > in 2.> > > > > First of all he may have loss of wealth as well as throat> problems.> > > also> > > > > elder brother of mother may have problem . also his family peace> may be> > > > > shattered. he may have headaches or problems related to face.> Next part> > > we> > > > > must move to the degrees. This is ruled by which planet we must> see .> > > it is> > > > > ruled by moon. What role does moon have to play in the Aries> nativity> > > chart> > > > > ? It is ruler of the 4th house. When you connect the 4th house> wuith> > > the> > > > > 8th and the 2nd. what do you get ? Problems to mother. problems> related> > > to> > > > > breast or chest. this is how one predicts. i am in habit of> doing this> > > > > in few minutes for the whole chart because this is what i am> doing for> > > last> > > > > 2 years continously. In fact one does not have to see the> navamsha> > > chart> > > > > itself. you just see the degrees and start predicting. Most of> my> > > whole-life> > > > > predictions to my clients are based on a single sheet of data,> without> > > any> > > > > recourse needed for referring 20 charts or sheets of paper. And> the> > > nutshell> > > > > of a persons life in all areas opens up just within few seconds> if you> > > > > believe me with the degrees chart in front of you. add a few> minutes> > > more to> > > > > this and you can safelt tell the native what must have happened> when in> > > his> > > > > life and what could be expected when.after all the natives do> not come> > > to us> > > > > for generalisations but for predictions. I had given these> results when> > > i> > > > > had laid down for the Placement of Mars in 2nd house, a few> messages> > > ago-> > > > > Not good for Mothers health or Domestic bless.> > > > > If Leo and sun is afflicted then the natives heart would also be> a> > > problem> > > > > after middle age. Mother can die during Mars period.> > > > >> > > > > *We will take another placement for the same Aries nativity. *> > > > >> > > > > Mars placed in 6th house.> > > > >> > > > > again to have taurus navamsha one needs mars to be in degrees> 13.20 to> > > > > 16.40. mars is lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 6th. So automatic> 1,6, and> > > 8> > > > > would give give disease and surgery this point must strike the> mind> > > > > immediately in few seconds. But why mother may die ? the above> degrees> > > are> > > > > ruled by moon who is lord of the 4th house. So connect this and> you> > > have the> > > > > predictions immediately. You can expand on home , House, land> property,> > > > > studies etc. whatever query is put by the native, the answer> would> > > depend> > > > > only on these base figures. I had given these results for the> mars> > > placement> > > > > in 6th house> > > > > Will suffer operation in this period of Mars antardasha.> > > > > can earn good money through insurance. Mother may die> > > > > during this period or be hospitalised.> > > > > here why i had mentioned would earn good money through insurance> ?> > > Because> > > > > the 8th house concerns death and the 6th house concerns> commissions.> > > Those> > > > > astrologers who know to take advantages of such combinations in> all> > > periods> > > > > can be winners. ( Astrologers can also do good with the transits> if> > > they> > > > > know how to use them effectively )> > > > >> > > > > *I will take one last placement as an example, because i have to> do my> > > > > other duties too.*> > > > >> > > > > Mars placed in 11th in natal chart for Aries nativity with> taurus> > > navamsha.> > > > >> > > > > here the degrees of Mars must be between 23.20 and 26.40 to land> in> > > taurus> > > > > navamsha.> > > > >> > > > > mars is lord of 1 and 8, placed in 11th. sounds good and bad> both. good> > > > > because 11th is house of gains and lagna lord placed in 11th> house> > > produces> > > > > a Great dhana yoga. Is it not ? but first of all dont forget> that 11th> > > is> > > > > the badhaksthana for this Lagna. next the native may have a> breaking of> > > his> > > > > leg because the 11th house means portion below the knees (> calves ),> > > the> > > > > above degrees are ruled by jupiter who is Lord of 9th and 12th> for this> > > > > chart. now when 12th is running simultaneously with 8th, it may> show> > > > > accident and hospitalisation. this period may also show death> for the> > > > > father if native is middle aged. why ? because when the 8th gets> > > activated,> > > > > remember that it is the 12th counted from the father house which> is the> > > > > 9th. the 8th house is also the house of scandals and allegations> while> > > the> > > > > 12th when running simultaenously can bring this scandal to the> legal> > > front> > > > > and put the person behind bars. You may expand on this.> > > > >> > > > > To the person who can do nakshatra based predictions , it can be> just a> > > > > matter of few minutes to study about the whole life of a> nativity, on a> > > > > single sheet of paper, and predict effectively what would happen> when,> > > and> > > > > his predictions would be true upto 80% if he is good, if not> more. You> > > dont> > > > > have to see any divisonal chart , because you already have the> degrees> > > to> > > > > guide you, so need to draw a diagram and put the planet in it .> > > Divisional> > > > > charts are nothing but the degrees translated into> diagramaatical> > > > > representation for the astrologer to be more comfortable with.> But once> > > you> > > > > become familiar with the art of prediction, then you dont need> > > > > diagrammatical representations or charts. For instance, I rarely> see> > > the> > > > > charts, but only see the degrees. Chart is automatically formed> in the> > > mind.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I have few members calling me on my personal id and sms. Please> do not> > > do> > > > > this because i dont keep much friendships, and those few with> whom i> > > do, it> > > > > is based totally on truthfulness in communications between us.> whatever> > > > > communication has to be done, let it be here on these Forums.> > > > >> > > > > I leave you now to study your own charts with the above> mentioned> > > approach.> > > > >> > > > > best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > *N.B.* i wished to put some more of such techniques of> predictions, but> > > i> > > > > find most of the peoplle are not particvipating or excersising> their> > > brains,> > > > > and everyone wishes to teach here or comment. no one wants to be> a> > > learner.> > > > > For me I am going to be a learner all my Life, and also share> with> > > those> > > > > interested like You did, and am still learning many techniques> under> > > > > guidance of people more better and learned then me who maybe My> gurus> > > or my> > > > > contemporaries does not matter to me. If one has to offer learn.> If you> > > have> > > > > to offer share. I have said many times before, those who learn> to give> > > ,> > > > > will always get.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >>

August 2, 2008

Dear Renuji,

The 5th house is anyway a loss house, even if not connected to the house of losses 5th and 8th. But if connected to these, then it shoes great loss. If connected to the 2nd or 11th, then great gains.

Now why is the 5th house solitarily , a house of loss in money matters ? just hold your horoscope upised down. Now see. It becomes the 11th house for the opposite person with whom you are dealing. Got it ?

The 6th house in your own chart if you see now, holding your chart upside down, you will find becomes the 12th house or expenditure house for the opposite person, which means a income house for you. Got it ?

Anyone having 5th house strong in his chart, must never go for partnerships, because his partner would pocket the major part of profits, while the native would be left with nothing.

The 5th and the 12th house running strong in anyones chart without the connection of the 2nd or 11th, this persons wife would be fed up of his over-charitable nature, and the man would go all the way to help people ( Duniyawale) neglecting his own house and duties.

In all the houses of the chart, the connecting houses matter most to bring about any changes in any matter you are looking for.

For instance if the matter is Love, then naturally you would go for checking the 5th house. In all periods when the 5th is connected with the 11th, the person would enjoy his love affairs, and as soon as the 5th gets attched to the 8th, due to the dasha changes, the Love would suffer heartbreaks and breaks in the relationships.

Same for birth of children, if 5th with 11th, then gain of a child. but if with 8th, one has to check properly, it need not be a loss of child, but may be a child through caserian if Mars is involved ( Mars for Surgery ), And if any planet lkike ketu is simultaneously seated in 4th house, then it would be a abortion.

Sorry, again my mail went long.

Bhaskar.

, "renunw" <renunw wrote:>> > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > ".........The net result of above would represent what Sun would result> being in Rahus constellation. Suppose Rahu represents the houses of> gains, wealth, 2nd 11th or 6th, then the native would get the same> results what we predicted for mercury constellation, or else if 5, 8 or> 12, then he would suffer losses and must be advised not to invest in> share Markets".........> > Please clarify if the net result of Rahu, makes Sun who is in Rahu's> constellation, represent 5H, why would the native suffer losses etc....?> > I find your write-ups on astrology as very useful lessons. So ..here I> am a student asking you to clear my confusion.> > blessings> > Renu> > > , "Bhaskar"> rajiventerprises@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Shivamji,> >> > A good question, shows that you are now applying your mind in a proper> > manner, intended to , for any research oriented student of astrology.> (> > And we all of us are after all students. its not easy to be a Master,> > and theres no definition of a Master in such matters as of astrology .> )> >> > Planet in own constellation> >> > Any planet in its own constellation, the results of its Placement and> > Ownerships of the houses it lords over, would be reinforced or shown> > prominent in his life, during the main or sub periods of this Planet.> > For instance Mercury in 5th for a Leo ascendant, if in own> > constellation, would re-inforce the effects of the native - Making> lakhs> > or millions through speculation , in the share markets.> >> > Planet in constellation of any Nodes - rahu or ketu> >> > Now suppose this mercury would have been in the 5th house but placed> in> > Rahus constellation, then how to decode the results ?> >> > Note down rahus house where placed. Note> > Rahu is in which constellation and what does the owner of that> > constellation represent ? Note if any planet> > is conjoint with Rahu within 4 degrees and not down what that planet> > represents. ( Even if this planet within 4 degrees is in another sign> > still it would be treated as conjunct,remember, because there are no> > walls in the sky ).> >> > Note which planets are aspecting Rahu and note which houses do they> > represent. Note the> > sign Lord in which rahu is placed, what houses does it represent.> >> > The net result of above would represent what Sun would result being in> > Rahus constellation. Suppose Rahu represents the houses of gains,> > wealth, 2nd 11th or 6th, then the native would get the same results> what> > we predicted for mercury constellation, or else if 5, 8 or 12, then he> > would suffer losses and must be advised not to invest in share> Markets.> >> > The astrologer who has reached this stage, its not long before he> could> > predict easily uptil 70% of what is required .> >> > best wishes,> >> > bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "Shivam Omar"> > oshivam@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear BhaskarJI,> > > Thanks for providing more examples of the technique. It made the> > tecnique> > > more clear and transparent. In the process, I developed one more> > doubt. What> > > if the lagna lord is in its own nakshatra in its own house (sun at> > 26.40 to> > > 29.99 degree leo or Rahu at 6.40 to 20 degree aquarious). In this> case> > how> > > we will expand the technique, because here we have no other house to> > relate.> > >> > >> > > Thanks,> > > Shivam> > >> > > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Shivamji,> > > >> > > > My efforts in posting a write-up pays, when somebody reads that> and> > > > applies the same. Thank You.> > > >> > > > Now coming to your query. Yes the nakshatra dispositor is the> planet> > which> > > > would actually show what the results any planet would give. The> > planet would> > > > show the source .> > > >> > > > *Imaginary example*> > > >> > > > Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th> house> > and in> > > > naskhatra of Venus. Now venus is the lord of 6th house and 11th> > house. so> > > > the results would be Money, gains through property or commissions> > related to> > > > property. Because 6th shows money received due to transaction or> > services,> > > > and 11th shows gains.> > > >> > > > Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in> > nakshatra of> > > > venus. The results would be the same. Commissions and money> > received.> > > > But the source would change. Because now saturn is is placed inthe> > 3rd house> > > > which denotes writing, communications, computers, author, wriiten> > artcilces,> > > > novels, printing etc. So the native would earn Money certainly,> but> > now the> > > > source would change.> > > >> > > > In the same way you can treat for Moon as asked in your query.> > > >> > > > Any astrologer who understands this does not need, any Chart or> > lengthy> > > > explanations or hundreds of rules, or contradictions or many books> > to check> > > > results. Commonsense,practise and logic is needed in the analysis> > alongwith> > > > intuitions.> > > >> > > > Mars 140 degrees 20 minutes 40 seconds placed in 5th house should> be> > > > enough for a good practioner of this science , to predict the> > results in few> > > > seconds ( Not minutes ), what others may take 2 days to give after> > spending> > > > hours and hours of their time and efforts in multitudes of various> > > > divisional charts and applying of hundreds of rules. Because the> > above info> > > > encases, Lagna, navamsha details, and also much smaller divisions> of> > the> > > > divisional charts too, for any keen astrological mind.> > > >> > > > And one does not need paper, pen or books to predict. one can even> > > > calculate the Vimsottari dasha on fingers, and everything else> said> > above,> > > > if he is given the above small information, which is enough.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "Shivam Omar"> > oshivam@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > > > > It is indeed a great writeup for the learners of predictive> > astrology> > > > like> > > > > me. Thanks for all your effort in writing the same. I have got a> > small> > > > > question based on this article. As you have mentioned Mars being> > at 13.20> > > > to> > > > > 16.40 degrees in Taurus, moon will be the nakshatra lord and> > through moon> > > > > one can relate 2nd, 4th and 8th house. If Mars would have been> in> > Aries,> > > > > Taurus or Gemini Navamansha (and in Taurus at Lagna Chart), then> > also> > > > > results should have been same as Mars in Taurus Navamansha,> > Because> > > > > Nakshatra dispositor of Mars is the same Moon. This means only> the> > > > Nakshatra> > > > > of the planet determines the results. Am I correct in my> > understanding?> > > > >> > > > > Thanks,> > > > > Shivam> > > > >> > > > > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Neelamji,> > > > > >> > > > > > My last take on this thread, no sense of waiting for more> > inputs. I> > > > liked> > > > > > the way you made efforts to understand this, by drawing a> > navamsa chart> > > > and> > > > > > understanding it personally without being told about the> absence> > of> > > > Taurus> > > > > > navamsha for the watery signs . And i wish You to understand> > this> > > > fully, so> > > > > > that you need no one, no books or any other material to> > understand the> > > > > > decoding of the navamsha for - Predictive astrology. This> would> > be my> > > > gift> > > > > > to a excersising mind. Others those who may be interested must> > read> > > > this> > > > > > properly, because here is shown the best technique of> > prediction.> > > > > >> > > > > > *Examples.*> > > > > >> > > > > > For instance for a Aries nativity Mars in the 2nd house in> natal> > chart> > > > in> > > > > > taurus navamsha would mean mars is having the degrees between> > 13.20 to> > > > 16.40> > > > > > degrees. ( If mars is any other degrees it would not get> taurus> > > > Navamsha) So> > > > > > how do we get to predictive part ? Mars is Lord of 1 and 8 and> > placed> > > > in 2.> > > > > > First of all he may have loss of wealth as well as throat> > problems.> > > > also> > > > > > elder brother of mother may have problem . also his family> peace> > may be> > > > > > shattered. he may have headaches or problems related to face.> > Next part> > > > we> > > > > > must move to the degrees. This is ruled by which planet we> must> > see .> > > > it is> > > > > > ruled by moon. What role does moon have to play in the Aries> > nativity> > > > chart> > > > > > ? It is ruler of the 4th house. When you connect the 4th house> > wuith> > > > the> > > > > > 8th and the 2nd. what do you get ? Problems to mother.> problems> > related> > > > to> > > > > > breast or chest. this is how one predicts. i am in habit of> > doing this> > > > > > in few minutes for the whole chart because this is what i am> > doing for> > > > last> > > > > > 2 years continously. In fact one does not have to see the> > navamsha> > > > chart> > > > > > itself. you just see the degrees and start predicting. Most of> > my> > > > whole-life> > > > > > predictions to my clients are based on a single sheet of data,> > without> > > > any> > > > > > recourse needed for referring 20 charts or sheets of paper.> And> > the> > > > nutshell> > > > > > of a persons life in all areas opens up just within few> seconds> > if you> > > > > > believe me with the degrees chart in front of you. add a few> > minutes> > > > more to> > > > > > this and you can safelt tell the native what must have> happened> > when in> > > > his> > > > > > life and what could be expected when.after all the natives do> > not come> > > > to us> > > > > > for generalisations but for predictions. I had given these> > results when> > > > i> > > > > > had laid down for the Placement of Mars in 2nd house, a few> > messages> > > > ago-> > > > > > Not good for Mothers health or Domestic bless.> > > > > > If Leo and sun is afflicted then the natives heart would also> be> > a> > > > problem> > > > > > after middle age. Mother can die during Mars period.> > > > > >> > > > > > *We will take another placement for the same Aries nativity. *> > > > > >> > > > > > Mars placed in 6th house.> > > > > >> > > > > > again to have taurus navamsha one needs mars to be in degrees> > 13.20 to> > > > > > 16.40. mars is lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 6th. So automatic> > 1,6, and> > > > 8> > > > > > would give give disease and surgery this point must strike the> > mind> > > > > > immediately in few seconds. But why mother may die ? the above> > degrees> > > > are> > > > > > ruled by moon who is lord of the 4th house. So connect this> and> > you> > > > have the> > > > > > predictions immediately. You can expand on home , House, land> > property,> > > > > > studies etc. whatever query is put by the native, the answer> > would> > > > depend> > > > > > only on these base figures. I had given these results for the> > mars> > > > placement> > > > > > in 6th house> > > > > > Will suffer operation in this period of Mars antardasha.> > > > > > can earn good money through insurance. Mother may die> > > > > > during this period or be hospitalised.> > > > > > here why i had mentioned would earn good money through> insurance> > ?> > > > Because> > > > > > the 8th house concerns death and the 6th house concerns> > commissions.> > > > Those> > > > > > astrologers who know to take advantages of such combinations> in> > all> > > > periods> > > > > > can be winners. ( Astrologers can also do good with the> transits> > if> > > > they> > > > > > know how to use them effectively )> > > > > >> > > > > > *I will take one last placement as an example, because i have> to> > do my> > > > > > other duties too.*> > > > > >> > > > > > Mars placed in 11th in natal chart for Aries nativity with> > taurus> > > > navamsha.> > > > > >> > > > > > here the degrees of Mars must be between 23.20 and 26.40 to> land> > in> > > > taurus> > > > > > navamsha.> > > > > >> > > > > > mars is lord of 1 and 8, placed in 11th. sounds good and bad> > both. good> > > > > > because 11th is house of gains and lagna lord placed in 11th> > house> > > > produces> > > > > > a Great dhana yoga. Is it not ? but first of all dont forget> > that 11th> > > > is> > > > > > the badhaksthana for this Lagna. next the native may have a> > breaking of> > > > his> > > > > > leg because the 11th house means portion below the knees (> > calves ),> > > > the> > > > > > above degrees are ruled by jupiter who is Lord of 9th and 12th> > for this> > > > > > chart. now when 12th is running simultaneously with 8th, it> may> > show> > > > > > accident and hospitalisation. this period may also show death> > for the> > > > > > father if native is middle aged. why ? because when the 8th> gets> > > > activated,> > > > > > remember that it is the 12th counted from the father house> which> > is the> > > > > > 9th. the 8th house is also the house of scandals and> allegations> > while> > > > the> > > > > > 12th when running simultaenously can bring this scandal to the> > legal> > > > front> > > > > > and put the person behind bars. You may expand on this.> > > > > >> > > > > > To the person who can do nakshatra based predictions , it can> be> > just a> > > > > > matter of few minutes to study about the whole life of a> > nativity, on a> > > > > > single sheet of paper, and predict effectively what would> happen> > when,> > > > and> > > > > > his predictions would be true upto 80% if he is good, if not> > more. You> > > > dont> > > > > > have to see any divisonal chart , because you already have the> > degrees> > > > to> > > > > > guide you, so need to draw a diagram and put the planet in it> .> > > > Divisional> > > > > > charts are nothing but the degrees translated into> > diagramaatical> > > > > > representation for the astrologer to be more comfortable with.> > But once> > > > you> > > > > > become familiar with the art of prediction, then you dont need> > > > > > diagrammatical representations or charts. For instance, I> rarely> > see> > > > the> > > > > > charts, but only see the degrees. Chart is automatically> formed> > in the> > > > mind.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > I have few members calling me on my personal id and sms.> Please> > do not> > > > do> > > > > > this because i dont keep much friendships, and those few with> > whom i> > > > do, it> > > > > > is based totally on truthfulness in communications between us.> > whatever> > > > > > communication has to be done, let it be here on these Forums.> > > > > >> > > > > > I leave you now to study your own charts with the above> > mentioned> > > > approach.> > > > > >> > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > >> > > > > > bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > > *N.B.* i wished to put some more of such techniques of> > predictions, but> > > > i> > > > > > find most of the peoplle are not particvipating or excersising> > their> > > > brains,> > > > > > and everyone wishes to teach here or comment. no one wants to> be> > a> > > > learner.> > > > > > For me I am going to be a learner all my Life, and also share> > with> > > > those> > > > > > interested like You did, and am still learning many techniques> > under> > > > > > guidance of people more better and learned then me who maybe> My> > gurus> > > > or my> > > > > > contemporaries does not matter to me. If one has to offer> learn.> > If you> > > > have> > > > > > to offer share. I have said many times before, those who learn> > to give> > > > ,> > > > > > will always get.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >>

August 2, 2008

Dear Bhaskar ji,

This angle about 5th house is new to me. No doubt I learnt a new lesson. Thanks

for sharing.

Regards,

Krishna

--- On Sat, 2/8/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote:

Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

Re: LL_in_Different_Amsa_Taurus

Saturday, 2 August, 2008, 10:10 AM

Dear Renuji,

The 5th house is anyway a loss house, even if not connected to the house of

losses 5th and 8th. Â But if connected to these, then it shoes great loss.Â If

connected to the 2nd or 11th, then great gains.

Now why is the 5th house solitarily , a house of loss in money matters ?Â just

hold your horoscope upised down. Now see. It becomes the 11th house for the

opposite person with whom you are dealing.Â Â Got it ?

The 6th house in your own chart if youÂ see now, holding your chart upside

down, you will find becomes the 12th house or expenditure house for the opposite

person, which means a income house for you.Â Â Got it ?

Anyone having 5th house strong in his chart, must never go for partnerships,

because his partner would pocket the major part of profits, while the native

would be left with nothing.

The 5th and the 12th house running strong in anyones chart without the

connection of the 2nd or 11th, this persons wife would be fed up of his

over-charitable nature, and the man would go all the way to help people (

Duniyawale) neglecting his own houseÂ and duties.

In all the houses of the chart, the connecting houses matter most to bring about

any changes in any matter you are looking for.

For instance if the matter is Love,Â then naturally you would go for checking

the 5th house. In all periods when the 5th is connected with the 11th, the

person would enjoy his love affairs, and as soon Â as the 5th gets attched to

the 8th, due to the dasha changes, the Love would sufferÂ heartbreaks and

breaks in the relationships.

Same for birth of children, if 5th with 11th, then gain of a child.Â but if

with 8th, one has to check properly, it need not be a loss of child, but may be

a child through caserian if Mars is involved ( Mars for Surgery ), And if any

planet lkike ketu is simultaneously seated in 4th house, then it would be a

abortion.

Sorry, again my mail went long.

Bhaskar.

Â

ancient_indian_ astrology, " renunw " <renunw wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> " .........The net result of above would represent what Sun would result

> being in Rahus constellation. Suppose Rahu represents the houses of

> gains, wealth, 2nd 11th or 6th, then the native would get the same

> results what we predicted for mercury constellation, or else if 5, 8 or

> 12, then he would suffer losses and must be advised not to invest in

> share Markets " .... .....

>

> Please clarify if the net result of Rahu, makes Sun who is in Rahu's

> constellation, represent 5H, why would the native suffer losses etc....?

>

> I find your write-ups on astrology as very useful lessons. So ..here I

> am a student asking you to clear my confusion.

>

> blessings

>

> Renu

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> rajiventerprises@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shivamji,

> >

> > A good question, shows that you are now applying your mind in a proper

> > manner, intended to , for any research oriented student of astrology.

> (

> > And we all of us are after all students. its not easy to be a Master,

> > and theres no definition of a Master in such matters as of astrology .

> )

> >

> > Planet in own constellation

> >

> > Any planet in its own constellation, the results of its Placement and

> > Ownerships of the houses it lords over, would be reinforced or shown

> > prominent in his life, during the main or sub periods of this Planet.

> > For instance Mercury in 5th for a Leo ascendant, if in own

> > constellation, would re-inforce the effects of the native - Making

> lakhs

> > or millions through speculation , in the share markets.

> >

> > Planet in constellation of any Nodes - rahu or ketu

> >

> > Now suppose this mercury would have been in the 5th house but placed

> in

> > Rahus constellation, then how to decode the results ?

> >

> > Note down rahus house where placed. Note

> > Rahu is in which constellation and what does the owner of that

> > constellation represent ? Note if any planet

> > is conjoint with Rahu within 4 degrees and not down what that planet

> > represents. ( Even if this planet within 4 degrees is in another sign

> > still it would be treated as conjunct,remember, because there are no

> > walls in the sky ).

> >

> > Note which planets are aspecting Rahu and note which houses do they

> > represent. Note the

> > sign Lord in which rahu is placed, what houses does it represent.

> >

> > The net result of above would represent what Sun would result being in

> > Rahus constellation. Suppose Rahu represents the houses of gains,

> > wealth, 2nd 11th or 6th, then the native would get the same results

> what

> > we predicted for mercury constellation, or else if 5, 8 or 12, then he

> > would suffer losses and must be advised not to invest in share

> Markets.

> >

> > The astrologer who has reached this stage, its not long before he

> could

> > predict easily uptil 70% of what is required .

> >

> > best wishes,

> >

> > bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Shivam Omar "

> > oshivam@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear BhaskarJI,

> > > Thanks for providing more examples of the technique. It made the

> > tecnique

> > > more clear and transparent. In the process, I developed one more

> > doubt. What

> > > if the lagna lord is in its own nakshatra in its own house (sun at

> > 26.40 to

> > > 29.99 degree leo or Rahu at 6.40 to 20 degree aquarious). In this

> case

> > how

> > > we will expand the technique, because here we have no other house to

> > relate.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Shivam

> > >

> > > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shivamji,

> > > >

> > > > My efforts in posting a write-up pays, when somebody reads that

> and

> > > > applies the same. Thank You.

> > > >

> > > > Now coming to your query. Yes the nakshatra dispositor is the

> planet

> > which

> > > > would actually show what the results any planet would give. The

> > planet would

> > > > show the source .

> > > >

> > > > *Imaginary example*

> > > >

> > > > Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th

> house

> > and in

> > > > naskhatra of Venus. Now venus is the lord of 6th house and 11th

> > house. so

> > > > the results would be Money, gains through property or commissions

> > related to

> > > > property. Because 6th shows money received due to transaction or

> > services,

> > > > and 11th shows gains.

> > > >

> > > > Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in

> > nakshatra of

> > > > venus. The results would be the same. Commissions and money

> > received.

> > > > But the source would change. Because now saturn is is placed inthe

> > 3rd house

> > > > which denotes writing, communications, computers, author, wriiten

> > artcilces,

> > > > novels, printing etc. So the native would earn Money certainly,

> but

> > now the

> > > > source would change.

> > > >

> > > > In the same way you can treat for Moon as asked in your query.

> > > >

> > > > Any astrologer who understands this does not need, any Chart or

> > lengthy

> > > > explanations or hundreds of rules, or contradictions or many books

> > to check

> > > > results. Commonsense, practise and logic is needed in the analysis

> > alongwith

> > > > intuitions.

> > > >

> > > > Mars 140 degrees 20 minutes 40 seconds placed in 5th house should

> be

> > > > enough for a good practioner of this science , to predict the

> > results in few

> > > > seconds ( Not minutes ), what others may take 2 days to give after

> > spending

> > > > hours and hours of their time and efforts in multitudes of various

> > > > divisional charts and applying of hundreds of rules. Because the

> > above info

> > > > encases, Lagna, navamsha details, and also much smaller divisions

> of

> > the

> > > > divisional charts too, for any keen astrological mind.

> > > >

> > > > And one does not need paper, pen or books to predict. one can even

> > > > calculate the Vimsottari dasha on fingers, and everything else

> said

> > above,

> > > > if he is given the above small information, which is enough.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Shivam Omar "

> > oshivam@

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > > > > It is indeed a great writeup for the learners of predictive

> > astrology

> > > > like

> > > > > me. Thanks for all your effort in writing the same. I have got a

> > small

> > > > > question based on this article. As you have mentioned Mars being

> > at 13.20

> > > > to

> > > > > 16.40 degrees in Taurus, moon will be the nakshatra lord and

> > through moon

> > > > > one can relate 2nd, 4th and 8th house. If Mars would have been

> in

> > Aries,

> > > > > Taurus or Gemini Navamansha (and in Taurus at Lagna Chart), then

> > also

> > > > > results should have been same as Mars in Taurus Navamansha,

> > Because

> > > > > Nakshatra dispositor of Mars is the same Moon. This means only

> the

> > > > Nakshatra

> > > > > of the planet determines the results. Am I correct in my

> > understanding?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Shivam

> > > > >

> > > > > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Neelamji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My last take on this thread, no sense of waiting for more

> > inputs. I

> > > > liked

> > > > > > the way you made efforts to understand this, by drawing a

> > navamsa chart

> > > > and

> > > > > > understanding it personally without being told about the

> absence

> > of

> > > > Taurus

> > > > > > navamsha for the watery signs . And i wish You to understand

> > this

> > > > fully, so

> > > > > > that you need no one, no books or any other material to

> > understand the

> > > > > > decoding of the navamsha for - Predictive astrology. This

> would

> > be my

> > > > gift

> > > > > > to a excersising mind. Others those who may be interested must

> > read

> > > > this

> > > > > > properly, because here is shown the best technique of

> > prediction.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *Examples.*

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For instance for a Aries nativity Mars in the 2nd house in

> natal

> > chart

> > > > in

> > > > > > taurus navamsha would mean mars is having the degrees between

> > 13.20 to

> > > > 16.40

> > > > > > degrees. ( If mars is any other degrees it would not get

> taurus

> > > > Navamsha) So

> > > > > > how do we get to predictive part ? Mars is Lord of 1 and 8 and

> > placed

> > > > in 2.

> > > > > > First of all he may have loss of wealth as well as throat

> > problems.

> > > > also

> > > > > > elder brother of mother may have problem . also his family

> peace

> > may be

> > > > > > shattered. he may have headaches or problems related to face.

> > Next part

> > > > we

> > > > > > must move to the degrees. This is ruled by which planet we

> must

> > see .

> > > > it is

> > > > > > ruled by moon. What role does moon have to play in the Aries

> > nativity

> > > > chart

> > > > > > ? It is ruler of the 4th house. When you connect the 4th house

> > wuith

> > > > the

> > > > > > 8th and the 2nd. what do you get ? Problems to mother.

> problems

> > related

> > > > to

> > > > > > breast or chest. this is how one predicts. i am in habit of

> > doing this

> > > > > > in few minutes for the whole chart because this is what i am

> > doing for

> > > > last

> > > > > > 2 years continously. In fact one does not have to see the

> > navamsha

> > > > chart

> > > > > > itself. you just see the degrees and start predicting. Most of

> > my

> > > > whole-life

> > > > > > predictions to my clients are based on a single sheet of data,

> > without

> > > > any

> > > > > > recourse needed for referring 20 charts or sheets of paper.

> And

> > the

> > > > nutshell

> > > > > > of a persons life in all areas opens up just within few

> seconds

> > if you

> > > > > > believe me with the degrees chart in front of you. add a few

> > minutes

> > > > more to

> > > > > > this and you can safelt tell the native what must have

> happened

> > when in

> > > > his

> > > > > > life and what could be expected when.after all the natives do

> > not come

> > > > to us

> > > > > > for generalisations but for predictions. I had given these

> > results when

> > > > i

> > > > > > had laid down for the Placement of Mars in 2nd house, a few

> > messages

> > > > ago-

> > > > > > Not good for Mothers health or Domestic bless.

> > > > > > If Leo and sun is afflicted then the natives heart would also

> be

> > a

> > > > problem

> > > > > > after middle age. Mother can die during Mars period.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *We will take another placement for the same Aries nativity. *

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mars placed in 6th house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > again to have taurus navamsha one needs mars to be in degrees

> > 13.20 to

> > > > > > 16.40. mars is lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 6th. So automatic

> > 1,6, and

> > > > 8

> > > > > > would give give disease and surgery this point must strike the

> > mind

> > > > > > immediately in few seconds. But why mother may die ? the above

> > degrees

> > > > are

> > > > > > ruled by moon who is lord of the 4th house. So connect this

> and

> > you

> > > > have the

> > > > > > predictions immediately. You can expand on home , House, land

> > property,

> > > > > > studies etc. whatever query is put by the native, the answer

> > would

> > > > depend

> > > > > > only on these base figures. I had given these results for the

> > mars

> > > > placement

> > > > > > in 6th house

> > > > > > Will suffer operation in this period of Mars antardasha.

> > > > > > can earn good money through insurance. Mother may die

> > > > > > during this period or be hospitalised.

> > > > > > here why i had mentioned would earn good money through

> insurance

> > ?

> > > > Because

> > > > > > the 8th house concerns death and the 6th house concerns

> > commissions.

> > > > Those

> > > > > > astrologers who know to take advantages of such combinations

> in

> > all

> > > > periods

> > > > > > can be winners. ( Astrologers can also do good with the

> transits

> > if

> > > > they

> > > > > > know how to use them effectively )

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *I will take one last placement as an example, because i have

> to

> > do my

> > > > > > other duties too.*

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mars placed in 11th in natal chart for Aries nativity with

> > taurus

> > > > navamsha.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > here the degrees of Mars must be between 23.20 and 26.40 to

> land

> > in

> > > > taurus

> > > > > > navamsha.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > mars is lord of 1 and 8, placed in 11th. sounds good and bad

> > both. good

> > > > > > because 11th is house of gains and lagna lord placed in 11th

> > house

> > > > produces

> > > > > > a Great dhana yoga. Is it not ? but first of all dont forget

> > that 11th

> > > > is

> > > > > > the badhaksthana for this Lagna. next the native may have a

> > breaking of

> > > > his

> > > > > > leg because the 11th house means portion below the knees (

> > calves ),

> > > > the

> > > > > > above degrees are ruled by jupiter who is Lord of 9th and 12th

> > for this

> > > > > > chart. now when 12th is running simultaneously with 8th, it

> may

> > show

> > > > > > accident and hospitalisation. this period may also show death

> > for the

> > > > > > father if native is middle aged. why ? because when the 8th

> gets

> > > > activated,

> > > > > > remember that it is the 12th counted from the father house

> which

> > is the

> > > > > > 9th. the 8th house is also the house of scandals and

> allegations

> > while

> > > > the

> > > > > > 12th when running simultaenously can bring this scandal to the

> > legal

> > > > front

> > > > > > and put the person behind bars. You may expand on this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To the person who can do nakshatra based predictions , it can

> be

> > just a

> > > > > > matter of few minutes to study about the whole life of a

> > nativity, on a

> > > > > > single sheet of paper, and predict effectively what would

> happen

> > when,

> > > > and

> > > > > > his predictions would be true upto 80% if he is good, if not

> > more. You

> > > > dont

> > > > > > have to see any divisonal chart , because you already have the

> > degrees

> > > > to

> > > > > > guide you, so need to draw a diagram and put the planet in it

> .

> > > > Divisional

> > > > > > charts are nothing but the degrees translated into

> > diagramaatical

> > > > > > representation for the astrologer to be more comfortable with.

> > But once

> > > > you

> > > > > > become familiar with the art of prediction, then you dont need

> > > > > > diagrammatical representations or charts. For instance, I

> rarely

> > see

> > > > the

> > > > > > charts, but only see the degrees. Chart is automatically

> formed

> > in the

> > > > mind.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have few members calling me on my personal id and sms.

> Please

> > do not

> > > > do

> > > > > > this because i dont keep much friendships, and those few with

> > whom i

> > > > do, it

> > > > > > is based totally on truthfulness in communications between us.

> > whatever

> > > > > > communication has to be done, let it be here on these Forums.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I leave you now to study your own charts with the above

> > mentioned

> > > > approach.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *N.B.* i wished to put some more of such techniques of

> > predictions, but

> > > > i

> > > > > > find most of the peoplle are not particvipating or excersising

> > their

> > > > brains,

> > > > > > and everyone wishes to teach here or comment. no one wants to

> be

> > a

> > > > learner.

> > > > > > For me I am going to be a learner all my Life, and also share

> > with

> > > > those

> > > > > > interested like You did, and am still learning many techniques

> > under

> > > > > > guidance of people more better and learned then me who maybe

> My

> > gurus

> > > > or my

> > > > > > contemporaries does not matter to me. If one has to offer

> learn.

> > If you

> > > > have

> > > > > > to offer share. I have said many times before, those who learn

> > to give

> > > > ,

> > > > > > will always get.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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August 2, 2008

Dear Renuji,

Please re-read the first line of my mail -

// The 5th house is anyway a loss house, even if not connected to the house of losses 5th and 8th. //

as -

// The 5th house is anyway a loss house, even if not connected to the house of losses 8th and 12th //

regards, Bhaskar.

, "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises wrote:>> > Dear Renuji,> > The 5th house is anyway a loss house, even if not connected to the house> of losses 5th and 8th. But if connected to these, then it shoes great> loss. If connected to the 2nd or 11th, then great gains.> > Now why is the 5th house solitarily , a house of loss in money matters ?> just hold your horoscope upised down. Now see. It becomes the 11th house> for the opposite person with whom you are dealing. Got it ?> > The 6th house in your own chart if you see now, holding your chart> upside down, you will find becomes the 12th house or expenditure house> for the opposite person, which means a income house for you. Got it ?> > Anyone having 5th house strong in his chart, must never go for> partnerships, because his partner would pocket the major part of> profits, while the native would be left with nothing.> > The 5th and the 12th house running strong in anyones chart without the> connection of the 2nd or 11th, this persons wife would be fed up of his> over-charitable nature, and the man would go all the way to help people> ( Duniyawale) neglecting his own house and duties.> > In all the houses of the chart, the connecting houses matter most to> bring about any changes in any matter you are looking for.> > For instance if the matter is Love, then naturally you would go for> checking the 5th house. In all periods when the 5th is connected with> the 11th, the person would enjoy his love affairs, and as soon as the> 5th gets attched to the 8th, due to the dasha changes, the Love would> suffer heartbreaks and breaks in the relationships.> > Same for birth of children, if 5th with 11th, then gain of a child. but> if with 8th, one has to check properly, it need not be a loss of child,> but may be a child through caserian if Mars is involved ( Mars for> Surgery ), And if any planet lkike ketu is simultaneously seated in 4th> house, then it would be a abortion.> > Sorry, again my mail went long.> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > , "renunw" renunw@> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Bhaskar ji,> >> > ".........The net result of above would represent what Sun would> result> > being in Rahus constellation. Suppose Rahu represents the houses of> > gains, wealth, 2nd 11th or 6th, then the native would get the same> > results what we predicted for mercury constellation, or else if 5, 8> or> > 12, then he would suffer losses and must be advised not to invest in> > share Markets".........> >> > Please clarify if the net result of Rahu, makes Sun who is in Rahu's> > constellation, represent 5H, why would the native suffer losses> etc....?> >> > I find your write-ups on astrology as very useful lessons. So ..here I> > am a student asking you to clear my confusion.> >> > blessings> >> > Renu> >> >> > , "Bhaskar"> > rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Shivamji,> > >> > > A good question, shows that you are now applying your mind in a> proper> > > manner, intended to , for any research oriented student of> astrology.> > (> > > And we all of us are after all students. its not easy to be a> Master,> > > and theres no definition of a Master in such matters as of astrology> .> > )> > >> > > Planet in own constellation> > >> > > Any planet in its own constellation, the results of its Placement> and> > > Ownerships of the houses it lords over, would be reinforced or shown> > > prominent in his life, during the main or sub periods of this> Planet.> > > For instance Mercury in 5th for a Leo ascendant, if in own> > > constellation, would re-inforce the effects of the native - Making> > lakhs> > > or millions through speculation , in the share markets.> > >> > > Planet in constellation of any Nodes - rahu or ketu> > >> > > Now suppose this mercury would have been in the 5th house but placed> > in> > > Rahus constellation, then how to decode the results ?> > >> > > Note down rahus house where placed. Note> > > Rahu is in which constellation and what does the owner of that> > > constellation represent ? Note if any planet> > > is conjoint with Rahu within 4 degrees and not down what that planet> > > represents. ( Even if this planet within 4 degrees is in another> sign> > > still it would be treated as conjunct,remember, because there are no> > > walls in the sky ).> > >> > > Note which planets are aspecting Rahu and note which houses do they> > > represent. Note the> > > sign Lord in which rahu is placed, what houses does it represent.> > >> > > The net result of above would represent what Sun would result being> in> > > Rahus constellation. Suppose Rahu represents the houses of gains,> > > wealth, 2nd 11th or 6th, then the native would get the same results> > what> > > we predicted for mercury constellation, or else if 5, 8 or 12, then> he> > > would suffer losses and must be advised not to invest in share> > Markets.> > >> > > The astrologer who has reached this stage, its not long before he> > could> > > predict easily uptil 70% of what is required .> > >> > > best wishes,> > >> > > bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "Shivam Omar"> > > oshivam@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear BhaskarJI,> > > > Thanks for providing more examples of the technique. It made the> > > tecnique> > > > more clear and transparent. In the process, I developed one more> > > doubt. What> > > > if the lagna lord is in its own nakshatra in its own house (sun at> > > 26.40 to> > > > 29.99 degree leo or Rahu at 6.40 to 20 degree aquarious). In this> > case> > > how> > > > we will expand the technique, because here we have no other house> to> > > relate.> > > >> > > >> > > > Thanks,> > > > Shivam> > > >> > > > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shivamji,> > > > >> > > > > My efforts in posting a write-up pays, when somebody reads that> > and> > > > > applies the same. Thank You.> > > > >> > > > > Now coming to your query. Yes the nakshatra dispositor is the> > planet> > > which> > > > > would actually show what the results any planet would give. The> > > planet would> > > > > show the source .> > > > >> > > > > *Imaginary example*> > > > >> > > > > Now suppose the lagna is sagittarius. Jupiter is placed in 4th> > house> > > and in> > > > > naskhatra of Venus. Now venus is the lord of 6th house and 11th> > > house. so> > > > > the results would be Money, gains through property or> commissions> > > related to> > > > > property. Because 6th shows money received due to transaction or> > > services,> > > > > and 11th shows gains.> > > > >> > > > > Now suppose in the same chart Saturn is placed in 3rd house in> > > nakshatra of> > > > > venus. The results would be the same. Commissions and money> > > received.> > > > > But the source would change. Because now saturn is is placed> inthe> > > 3rd house> > > > > which denotes writing, communications, computers, author,> wriiten> > > artcilces,> > > > > novels, printing etc. So the native would earn Money certainly,> > but> > > now the> > > > > source would change.> > > > >> > > > > In the same way you can treat for Moon as asked in your query.> > > > >> > > > > Any astrologer who understands this does not need, any Chart or> > > lengthy> > > > > explanations or hundreds of rules, or contradictions or many> books> > > to check> > > > > results. Commonsense,practise and logic is needed in the> analysis> > > alongwith> > > > > intuitions.> > > > >> > > > > Mars 140 degrees 20 minutes 40 seconds placed in 5th house> should> > be> > > > > enough for a good practioner of this science , to predict the> > > results in few> > > > > seconds ( Not minutes ), what others may take 2 days to give> after> > > spending> > > > > hours and hours of their time and efforts in multitudes of> various> > > > > divisional charts and applying of hundreds of rules. Because the> > > above info> > > > > encases, Lagna, navamsha details, and also much smaller> divisions> > of> > > the> > > > > divisional charts too, for any keen astrological mind.> > > > >> > > > > And one does not need paper, pen or books to predict. one can> even> > > > > calculate the Vimsottari dasha on fingers, and everything else> > said> > > above,> > > > > if he is given the above small information, which is enough.> > > > >> > > > > regards,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "Shivam Omar"> > > oshivam@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > > > > > It is indeed a great writeup for the learners of predictive> > > astrology> > > > > like> > > > > > me. Thanks for all your effort in writing the same. I have got> a> > > small> > > > > > question based on this article. As you have mentioned Mars> being> > > at 13.20> > > > > to> > > > > > 16.40 degrees in Taurus, moon will be the nakshatra lord and> > > through moon> > > > > > one can relate 2nd, 4th and 8th house. If Mars would have been> > in> > > Aries,> > > > > > Taurus or Gemini Navamansha (and in Taurus at Lagna Chart),> then> > > also> > > > > > results should have been same as Mars in Taurus Navamansha,> > > Because> > > > > > Nakshatra dispositor of Mars is the same Moon. This means only> > the> > > > > Nakshatra> > > > > > of the planet determines the results. Am I correct in my> > > understanding?> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > Shivam> > > > > >> > > > > > On 7/31/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Neelamji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > My last take on this thread, no sense of waiting for more> > > inputs. I> > > > > liked> > > > > > > the way you made efforts to understand this, by drawing a> > > navamsa chart> > > > > and> > > > > > > understanding it personally without being told about the> > absence> > > of> > > > > Taurus> > > > > > > navamsha for the watery signs . And i wish You to understand> > > this> > > > > fully, so> > > > > > > that you need no one, no books or any other material to> > > understand the> > > > > > > decoding of the navamsha for - Predictive astrology. This> > would> > > be my> > > > > gift> > > > > > > to a excersising mind. Others those who may be interested> must> > > read> > > > > this> > > > > > > properly, because here is shown the best technique of> > > prediction.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *Examples.*> > > > > > >> > > > > > > For instance for a Aries nativity Mars in the 2nd house in> > natal> > > chart> > > > > in> > > > > > > taurus navamsha would mean mars is having the degrees> between> > > 13.20 to> > > > > 16.40> > > > > > > degrees. ( If mars is any other degrees it would not get> > taurus> > > > > Navamsha) So> > > > > > > how do we get to predictive part ? Mars is Lord of 1 and 8> and> > > placed> > > > > in 2.> > > > > > > First of all he may have loss of wealth as well as throat> > > problems.> > > > > also> > > > > > > elder brother of mother may have problem . also his family> > peace> > > may be> > > > > > > shattered. he may have headaches or problems related to> face.> > > Next part> > > > > we> > > > > > > must move to the degrees. This is ruled by which planet we> > must> > > see .> > > > > it is> > > > > > > ruled by moon. What role does moon have to play in the Aries> > > nativity> > > > > chart> > > > > > > ? It is ruler of the 4th house. When you connect the 4th> house> > > wuith> > > > > the> > > > > > > 8th and the 2nd. what do you get ? Problems to mother.> > problems> > > related> > > > > to> > > > > > > breast or chest. this is how one predicts. i am in habit of> > > doing this> > > > > > > in few minutes for the whole chart because this is what i am> > > doing for> > > > > last> > > > > > > 2 years continously. In fact one does not have to see the> > > navamsha> > > > > chart> > > > > > > itself. you just see the degrees and start predicting. Most> of> > > my> > > > > whole-life> > > > > > > predictions to my clients are based on a single sheet of> data,> > > without> > > > > any> > > > > > > recourse needed for referring 20 charts or sheets of paper.> > And> > > the> > > > > nutshell> > > > > > > of a persons life in all areas opens up just within few> > seconds> > > if you> > > > > > > believe me with the degrees chart in front of you. add a few> > > minutes> > > > > more to> > > > > > > this and you can safelt tell the native what must have> > happened> > > when in> > > > > his> > > > > > > life and what could be expected when.after all the natives> do> > > not come> > > > > to us> > > > > > > for generalisations but for predictions. I had given these> > > results when> > > > > i> > > > > > > had laid down for the Placement of Mars in 2nd house, a few> > > messages> > > > > ago-> > > > > > > Not good for Mothers health or Domestic bless.> > > > > > > If Leo and sun is afflicted then the natives heart would> also> > be> > > a> > > > > problem> > > > > > > after middle age. Mother can die during Mars period.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *We will take another placement for the same Aries nativity.> *> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Mars placed in 6th house.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > again to have taurus navamsha one needs mars to be in> degrees> > > 13.20 to> > > > > > > 16.40. mars is lord of 1 and 8 and placed in 6th. So> automatic> > > 1,6, and> > > > > 8> > > > > > > would give give disease and surgery this point must strike> the> > > mind> > > > > > > immediately in few seconds. But why mother may die ? the> above> > > degrees> > > > > are> > > > > > > ruled by moon who is lord of the 4th house. So connect this> > and> > > you> > > > > have the> > > > > > > predictions immediately. You can expand on home , House,> land> > > property,> > > > > > > studies etc. whatever query is put by the native, the answer> > > would> > > > > depend> > > > > > > only on these base figures. I had given these results for> the> > > mars> > > > > placement> > > > > > > in 6th house> > > > > > > Will suffer operation in this period of Mars antardasha.> > > > > > > can earn good money through insurance. Mother may die> > > > > > > during this period or be hospitalised.> > > > > > > here why i had mentioned would earn good money through> > insurance> > > ?> > > > > Because> > > > > > > the 8th house concerns death and the 6th house concerns> > > commissions.> > > > > Those> > > > > > > astrologers who know to take advantages of such combinations> > in> > > all> > > > > periods> > > > > > > can be winners. ( Astrologers can also do good with the> > transits> > > if> > > > > they> > > > > > > know how to use them effectively )> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *I will take one last placement as an example, because i> have> > to> > > do my> > > > > > > other duties too.*> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Mars placed in 11th in natal chart for Aries nativity with> > > taurus> > > > > navamsha.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > here the degrees of Mars must be between 23.20 and 26.40 to> > land> > > in> > > > > taurus> > > > > > > navamsha.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > mars is lord of 1 and 8, placed in 11th. sounds good and bad> > > both. good> > > > > > > because 11th is house of gains and lagna lord placed in 11th> > > house> > > > > produces> > > > > > > a Great dhana yoga. Is it not ? but first of all dont forget> > > that 11th> > > > > is> > > > > > > the badhaksthana for this Lagna. next the native may have a> > > breaking of> > > > > his> > > > > > > leg because the 11th house means portion below the knees (> > > calves ),> > > > > the> > > > > > > above degrees are ruled by jupiter who is Lord of 9th and> 12th> > > for this> > > > > > > chart. now when 12th is running simultaneously with 8th, it> > may> > > show> > > > > > > accident and hospitalisation. this period may also show> death> > > for the> > > > > > > father if native is middle aged. why ? because when the 8th> > gets> > > > > activated,> > > > > > > remember that it is the 12th counted from the father house> > which> > > is the> > > > > > > 9th. the 8th house is also the house of scandals and> > allegations> > > while> > > > > the> > > > > > > 12th when running simultaenously can bring this scandal to> the> > > legal> > > > > front> > > > > > > and put the person behind bars. You may expand on this.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > To the person who can do nakshatra based predictions , it> can> > be> > > just a> > > > > > > matter of few minutes to study about the whole life of a> > > nativity, on a> > > > > > > single sheet of paper, and predict effectively what would> > happen> > > when,> > > > > and> > > > > > > his predictions would be true upto 80% if he is good, if not> > > more. You> > > > > dont> > > > > > > have to see any divisonal chart , because you already have> the> > > degrees> > > > > to> > > > > > > guide you, so need to draw a diagram and put the planet in> it> > .> > > > > Divisional> > > > > > > charts are nothing but the degrees translated into> > > diagramaatical> > > > > > > representation for the astrologer to be more comfortable> with.> > > But once> > > > > you> > > > > > > become familiar with the art of prediction, then you dont> need> > > > > > > diagrammatical representations or charts. For instance, I> > rarely> > > see> > > > > the> > > > > > > charts, but only see the degrees. Chart is automatically> > formed> > > in the> > > > > mind.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I have few members calling me on my personal id and sms.> > Please> > > do not> > > > > do> > > > > > > this because i dont keep much friendships, and those few> with> > > whom i> > > > > do, it> > > > > > > is based totally on truthfulness in communications between> us.> > > whatever> > > > > > > communication has to be done, let it be here on these> Forums.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I leave you now to study your own charts with the above> > > mentioned> > > > > approach.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *N.B.* i wished to put some more of such techniques of> > > predictions, but> > > > > i> > > > > > > find most of the peoplle are not particvipating or> excersising> > > their> > > > > brains,> > > > > > > and everyone wishes to teach here or comment. no one wants> to> > be> > > a> > > > > learner.> > > > > > > For me I am going to be a learner all my Life, and also> share> > > with> > > > > those> > > > > > > interested like You did, and am still learning many> techniques> > > under> > > > > > > guidance of people more better and learned then me who maybe> > My> > > gurus> > > > > or my> > > > > > > contemporaries does not matter to me. If one has to offer> > learn.> > > If you> > > > > have> > > > > > > to offer share. I have said many times before, those who> learn> > > to give> > > > > ,> > > > > > > will always get.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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