Guest guest Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Dear Nair ji, You may recall , one of my paper on this subject is already up loaded in file section by Mr. sRINIVAS. I wish to have your comments. Regards, G.K.GOEL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Hare ramakrishna dear Goel ji , i will surely go tru it ,now i hav some time constraints and i will inform u and grp abt ur article till then let honourary memebrs can also read it and ask u any clearance which will also help me . thank u sir regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalamxmai namah . , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:>> Dear Nair ji,> You may recall , one of my paper on this subject is> already up loaded in file section by Mr. sRINIVAS.> I wish to have your comments.> Regards, > G.K.GOEL> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Dear Sri G.C. Mouliswer Ji, If i may add my few cents, I echo the same views as you mentioned.. i.e. Marriage or everything parse happens as per the PAST KARMA and no one can't stop.. Just recently, i had requested and asked (Paid Service) one of the learned and experienced Astrologer (who is also an Active Member of this forum) about my Brother's Marriage proposal and marriage prospects with the proposed girl, he initially responded with some guidance, BUT after taking Bride's details and despite my repeated request(s) he simply disappeared!! (Disappeared = not responding to my queries at all!) What do you call it? Is it due to Past Karma of me or my brother? And i raised this below question sometime back also in the same fourm If everything happens as per the PAST KARMA then WHY do we need Astrology/Astrologer? Regards Chandu2Chill , Ghatti Chandra Mouliswer <ghatti_chandra_mouliswer wrote: > > Dear Sri Sunil Nair ji, >  > Every thing including marriage happens according to their past KARMA and is  destined to happen accordingly Marriage is also an act of past KARMA.. U n I cant stop such things by mails. According to their KARMA one will approach a person who guides him according to his KARMA.  In my 40 years of experiance in this field this is what I observed. Now a days good number of Astrologers  croppedup and matching the  charts on these 10 poruthams which is mainly based on moon position and by star.  Even number of web sites on Astrology giving ready made results basing on Nakshatra kootas and giving %age results resulting in %age failure/% age death after marriage. No body can stop this. It is GOD'S will and pleasure. This is my openion. >  > Thank U, >  OM SRI LAXMIGANAPATHAYE NAMAHA. > > --- On Sat, 20/9/08, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala > Vedic Astrology--Matchmaking Charts > > Saturday, 20 September, 2008, 2:25 PM >  > Hare rama krishna > dear grp . >  Matchmaking is becoming some easy business for some astrologers who just go for mechnical way like comparing both moon signs and nakshtras ,when i revealed it some grp it moderaters and 40 or 50 yrs into astrology savants were after my blood and unleash a gr8 attack on me .and when i coutered with alternate questions  was demanding to reveal all my long yrs on study in grps .which i said i will fo conveneintly but they dont hav any decency to think abt some ones time ,availabitity and free will .They thinks by shouting they can get it some ones long toiled efforts . >  > any way i just wanted to discuss the flaws in koota matchting ( in north or 10 pointporuttam system in south mainly in kerala ) here . >  > why Moon is important > ------------ --------- > Moon is karaka for mind ,it is deha karaka ,indicater of other lagna too in vedic astrology also controls water contents in body and its rakta karaka too ( partialy ) also in ladies the menses and hence productivity also moon has a gr8 say .even to calculate the skhetra sputa moon is imp .So moon has a gr8 say in matchting .But that shud not b mechanical ,if so we just need a table only and in that case we r thinking the human beings are some sort of mechanical beings than guided by various karmas and fate and time and free will. >  > we shud admit that india has high success rate of marriages esp among hindus .because there are very good astrologers unlike present day astrologers who dont even has the knack to understand various terms used in astrology ( i even heard some one says or equates varna system which is based on guna and karama as caste system which was black mark in indian history which has high traditions and values than branding some one born in purticular caste is having this dignity or that dignity ,it is against vedic way of life or thoughts too ) ,so now almost every one goes for this mechanical system to match or reject an alliance . >  > so this is the main problem this days .Those who dont know how to see even one chart properly is entrusted for matchting 2 charts means 2 livs .is it not funny ??when this is pointed out that astrologer is being hounded down .. > so this so called astrologers see lunar positions and mansions and feed in computer or uses a spl table and declare results this cpls has x% of matchting .so i advise those who go for match making just ask astrologer is he is using just koota matchting or porutha matchting better ignore astrologer as u can also do it and any tom ,dick and harry can do it .( as moon can b in a mansion for 24 hrs and a house for almost 2and 1/4 days )so intelligent student can see the very basic flaw in this approach and they shud try to learn more , > As this is highly defectiv and dangerous system .As horoscopes r rejected simply based on certain kootas and ignoring other factors in charts such as longitivity window hood ,prosperity ,raja yogas ,children and general wellbeing .sexual compatiability ,karmic debts etc .No one seems to bother abt the possibility of compatiability with respect 2 charts  and judge their capacity to go in for mutual realtionship also no one is bothered abt the durability . > even parents seems to ( even the cpls who depends on some web sites computer generated reports which is written in beutiful language ) bothered abt is >  who is cheap astrologer or who is free astrologer and avails their services only >  > so marriage is done in haste and laments later and tensions ,frustrations and torture for long period after . >  > Also we must see a moon is influenced by other factors can show mental problems to problems in bearing kids .And also we r seeing matchting frm lunar position of lady ,so the koota matchting is seeing frm that perspectiv ,so its hidden meanings an intellegent student shud understand .So match making is not koota matchting but matchting between 2 charts . >  > also other duryogas like extinction of family to high expenses leading to various problems also shud b checked . >  > all this needs high expertise and it also needs will to learn with a guru or guide other than just try to see lessons in net or even books ,as it needs lot of exprnce and even directions .other wise half baked knowledge will b leading to more danger and we may even block marriage of most eligible persons . >  > more in next > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . >  >  > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear chandu chill ji. it is fate of astrologers . because u r mentioning abt me ,u only requested for mariiage prospectus and not for all subsequesnt matches ,when u sent request again i was ready even to help that ( offcource after repeated requests ) but i asked u some details of girl to re confirm i a seeing right chart which u dont supply ,so what to do ??if u supply it i dont got it ,because even first email u gave me was getting bounced and then u know it and u sent in diffrnt id too ( first reading u got it in that id ) but remebr astrologer is not bound to giv reading for all match making because it is a serious business ,even me or no one in world can do it if he is a professional .AS every marriage proposals may b go upto 30 to 100 proposals .And we r analaysing not one chart but 2 charts each time so almost 4 to 8 hrs depending on complexity of charts it required and also some ppl may ask a list of questions to b answered ,so has to see on each match hope u understand and review ur understanding . THe second one i offered is a free frm my side and u got reading for what u paid . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , "Chandu2chill" <nanna_id2006 wrote:>> Dear Sri G.C. Mouliswer Ji,> > If i may add my few cents,> > I echo the same views as you mentioned.. i.e. Marriage or everything > parse happens as per the PAST KARMA and no one can't stop..> > Just recently, i had requested and asked (Paid Service) one of the > learned and experienced Astrologer (who is also an Active Member of > this forum) about my Brother's Marriage proposal and marriage > prospects with the proposed girl, he initially responded with some > guidance, BUT after taking Bride's details and despite my repeated > request(s) he simply disappeared!! (Disappeared = not responding to > my queries at all!) > > What do you call it? Is it due to Past Karma of me or my brother?> > And i raised this below question sometime back also in the same fourm > > If everything happens as per the PAST KARMA then WHY do we need > Astrology/Astrologer?> > Regards> > Chandu2Chill> > > , Ghatti Chandra > Mouliswer ghatti_chandra_mouliswer@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sri Sunil Nair ji,> >  > > Every thing including marriage happens according to their past > KARMA and is  destined to happen accordingly Marriage is also an > act of past KARMA.. U n I cant stop such things by mails. According > to their KARMA one will approach a person who guides him according > to his KARMA.  In my 40 years of experiance in this field this > is what I observed. Now a days good number of > Astrologers  croppedup and matching the  charts on these 10 > poruthams which is mainly based on moon position and by star.  Even > number of web sites on Astrology giving ready made results basing on > Nakshatra kootas and giving %age results resulting in %age failure/%> age death after marriage. No body can stop this. It is GOD'S will and > pleasure. This is my openion.> >  > > Thank U,> >  OM SRI LAXMIGANAPATHAYE NAMAHA.> > > > --- On Sat, 20/9/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@> > Vedic Astrology--Matchmaking > Charts> > > > Saturday, 20 September, 2008, 2:25 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > Hare rama krishna> > dear grp .> >  Matchmaking is becoming some easy business for some astrologers > who just go for mechnical way like comparing both moon signs and > nakshtras ,when i revealed it some grp it moderaters and 40 or 50 yrs > into astrology savants were after my blood and unleash a gr8 attack > on me .and when i coutered with alternate questions  was demanding > to reveal all my long yrs on study in grps .which i said i will fo > conveneintly but they dont hav any decency to think abt some ones > time ,availabitity and free will .They thinks by shouting they can > get it some ones long toiled efforts .> >  > > any way i just wanted to discuss the flaws in koota matchting ( in > north or 10 pointporuttam system in south mainly in kerala ) here .> >  > > why Moon is important> > ------------ ---------> > Moon is karaka for mind ,it is deha karaka ,indicater of other > lagna too in vedic astrology also controls water contents in body and > its rakta karaka too ( partialy ) also in ladies the menses and hence > productivity also moon has a gr8 say .even to calculate the skhetra > sputa moon is imp .So moon has a gr8 say in matchting .But that shud > not b mechanical ,if so we just need a table only and in that > case we r thinking the human beings are some sort of mechanical > beings than guided by various karmas and fate and time and free will.> >  > > we shud admit that india has high success rate of marriages esp > among hindus .because there are very good astrologers unlike present > day astrologers who dont even has the knack to understand various > terms used in astrology ( i even heard some one says or equates varna > system which is based on guna and karama as caste system which was > black mark in indian history which has high traditions and values > than branding some one born in purticular caste is having this > dignity or that dignity ,it is against vedic way of life or thoughts > too ) ,so now almost every one goes for this mechanical system to > match or reject an alliance .> >  > > so this is the main problem this days .Those who dont know how to > see even one chart properly is entrusted for matchting 2 charts means > 2 livs .is it not funny ??when this is pointed out that astrologer is > being hounded down ..> > so this so called astrologers see lunar positions and mansions and > feed in computer or uses a spl table and declare results this cpls > has x% of matchting .so i advise those who go for match making just > ask astrologer is he is using just koota matchting or porutha > matchting better ignore astrologer as u can also do it and any > tom ,dick and harry can do it .( as moon can b in a mansion for 24 > hrs and a house for almost 2and 1/4 days )so intelligent student can > see the very basic flaw in this approach and they shud try to learn > more , > > As this is highly defectiv and dangerous system .As horoscopes r > rejected simply based on certain kootas and ignoring other factors in > charts such as longitivity window hood ,prosperity ,raja > yogas ,children and general wellbeing .sexual compatiability ,karmic > debts etc .No one seems to bother abt the possibility of > compatiability with respect 2 charts  and judge their capacity to > go in for mutual realtionship also no one is bothered abt the > durability .> > even parents seems to ( even the cpls who depends on some web sites > computer generated reports which is written in beutiful language ) > bothered abt is > >  who is cheap astrologer or who is free astrologer and avails > their services only> >  > > so marriage is done in haste and laments later and > tensions ,frustrations and torture for long period after .> >  > > Also we must see a moon is influenced by other factors can show > mental problems to problems in bearing kids .And also we r seeing > matchting frm lunar position of lady ,so the koota matchting is > seeing frm that perspectiv ,so its hidden meanings an intellegent > student shud understand .So match making is not koota matchting but > matchting between 2 charts .> >  > > also other duryogas like extinction of family to high expenses > leading to various problems also shud b checked .> >  > > all this needs high expertise and it also needs will to learn with > a guru or guide other than just try to see lessons in net or even > books ,as it needs lot of exprnce and even directions .other wise > half baked knowledge will b leading to more danger and we may even > block marriage of most eligible persons .> >  > > more in next> > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> >  > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear chandu chill ji here is ur mail which confirmed my observations the data of girl u supplied was wrng ,and again u dont giv me back ground info i asked which i do generaly with any charts to make sure that the details and horo matches first ,as i find in marriage matchting many used to supply wrong charts too .so this proves how sincerely i was approaching u ,even if the service is paid or free . here is the mail ---------------- Chandrasekar <taaware> Re: Brother's Match finalization-need urgent guidance> astro_tellerkerala Saturday, 9 August, 2008, 5:43 PM>> Dear Sri Sunil Ji,> Thank you for your response..> Please note the Girl's DOB is 11th Sept 1985 i mentioned wrongly as 9th> Sept 85> Sorry for the inconvinice> Regards> Chandrasekar And u can atleast ask me tru grp if mail u sent did reach me ,what makes u to stop ??offcource because of this sincerity we hav less time and always crowded with lot of work too . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . ps --pls note -i dont hav any complaint abt u and no anger . , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > > Hare rama krishna> > dear chandu chill ji.> > it is fate of astrologers .> > because u r mentioning abt me ,u only requested for mariiage prospectus> and not for all subsequesnt matches> > ,when u sent request again i was ready even to help that ( offcource> after repeated requests ) but i asked u some details of girl to re> confirm i a seeing right chart which u dont supply ,so what to do ??if u> supply it i dont got it ,because even first email u gave me was getting> bounced and then u know it and u sent in diffrnt id too ( first reading> u got it in that id ) but remebr astrologer is not bound to giv reading> for all match making because it is a serious business ,even me or no one> in world can do it if he is a professional .AS every marriage proposals> may b go upto 30 to 100 proposals .And we r analaysing not one chart but> 2 charts each time so almost 4 to 8 hrs depending on complexity of> charts it required and also some ppl may ask a list of questions to b> answered ,so has to see on each match> > > > hope u understand and review ur understanding .> > > > THe second one i offered is a free frm my side and u got reading for> what u paid .> > > > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > , "Chandu2chill"> nanna_id2006@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sri G.C. Mouliswer Ji,> >> > If i may add my few cents,> >> > I echo the same views as you mentioned.. i.e. Marriage or everything> > parse happens as per the PAST KARMA and no one can't stop..> >> > Just recently, i had requested and asked (Paid Service) one of the> > learned and experienced Astrologer (who is also an Active Member of> > this forum) about my Brother's Marriage proposal and marriage> > prospects with the proposed girl, he initially responded with some> > guidance, BUT after taking Bride's details and despite my repeated> > request(s) he simply disappeared!! (Disappeared = not responding to> > my queries at all!)> >> > What do you call it? Is it due to Past Karma of me or my brother?> >> > And i raised this below question sometime back also in the same fourm> >> > If everything happens as per the PAST KARMA then WHY do we need> > Astrology/Astrologer?> >> > Regards> >> > Chandu2Chill> >> >> > , Ghatti Chandra> > Mouliswer ghatti_chandra_mouliswer@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sri Sunil Nair ji,> > > Â> > > Every thing including marriage happens according to their past> > KARMA and is  destined to happen accordingly Marriage is also> an> > act of past KARMA.. U n I cant stop such things by mails.> According> > to their KARMA one will approach a person who guides him> according> > to his KARMA.  In my 40 years of experiance in this> field this> > is what I observed. Now a days good number of> > Astrologers  croppedup and matching the  charts on> these 10> > poruthams which is mainly based on moon position and by star. Â> Even> > number of web sites on Astrology giving ready made results basing> on> > Nakshatra kootas and giving %age results resulting in %age> failure/%> > age death after marriage. No body can stop this. It is GOD'S will and> > pleasure. This is my openion.> > > Â> > > Thank U,> > >  OM SRI LAXMIGANAPATHAYE NAMAHA.> > >> > > --- On Sat, 20/9/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@> > > Vedic Astrology--Matchmaking> > Charts> > > > > > Saturday, 20 September, 2008, 2:25 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > > Hare rama krishna> > > dear grp .> > >  Matchmaking is becoming some easy business for some> astrologers> > who just go for mechnical way like comparing both moon signs and> > nakshtras ,when i revealed it some grp it moderaters and 40 or 50 yrs> > into astrology savants were after my blood and unleash a gr8 attack> > on me .and when i coutered with alternate questions  was demanding> > to reveal all my long yrs on study in grps .which i said i will fo> > conveneintly but they dont hav any decency to think abt some ones> > time ,availabitity and free will .They thinks by shouting they can> > get it some ones long toiled efforts .> > > Â> > > any way i just wanted to discuss the flaws in koota matchting ( in> > north or 10 pointporuttam system in south mainly in kerala ) here .> > > Â> > > why Moon is important> > > ------------ ---------> > > Moon is karaka for mind ,it is deha karaka ,indicater of other> > lagna too in vedic astrology also controls water contents in body and> > its rakta karaka too ( partialy ) also in ladies the menses and hence> > productivity also moon has a gr8 say .even to calculate the skhetra> > sputa moon is imp .So moon has a gr8 say in matchting .But that shud> > not b mechanical ,if so we just need a table only and in that> > case we r thinking the human beings are some sort of mechanical> > beings than guided by various karmas and fate and time and free will.> > > Â> > > we shud admit that india has high success rate of marriages esp> > among hindus .because there are very good astrologers unlike present> > day astrologers who dont even has the knack to understand various> > terms used in astrology ( i even heard some one says or equates varna> > system which is based on guna and karama as caste system which was> > black mark in indian history which has high traditions and values> > than branding some one born in purticular caste is having this> > dignity or that dignity ,it is against vedic way of life or thoughts> > too ) ,so now almost every one goes for this mechanical system to> > match or reject an alliance .> > > Â> > > so this is the main problem this days .Those who dont know how to> > see even one chart properly is entrusted for matchting 2 charts means> > 2 livs .is it not funny ??when this is pointed out that astrologer is> > being hounded down ..> > > so this so called astrologers see lunar positions and mansions and> > feed in computer or uses a spl table and declare results this cpls> > has x% of matchting .so i advise those who go for match making just> > ask astrologer is he is using just koota matchting or porutha> > matchting better ignore astrologer as u can also do it and any> > tom ,dick and harry can do it .( as moon can b in a mansion for 24> > hrs and a house for almost 2and 1/4 days )so intelligent student can> > see the very basic flaw in this approach and they shud try to> learn> > more ,Â> > > As this is highly defectiv and dangerous system .As horoscopes r> > rejected simply based on certain kootas and ignoring other factors in> > charts such as longitivity window hood ,prosperity ,raja> > yogas ,children and general wellbeing .sexual compatiability ,karmic> > debts etc .No one seems to bother abt the possibility of> > compatiability with respect 2 charts  and judge their capacity> to> > go in for mutual realtionship also no one is bothered abt the> > durability .> > > even parents seems to ( even the cpls who depends on some web sites> > computer generated reports which is written in beutiful language )> > bothered abt isÂ> > >  who is cheap astrologer or who is free astrologer and avails> > their services only> > > Â> > > so marriage is done in haste and laments later and> > tensions ,frustrations and torture for long period after .> > > Â> > > Also we must see a moon is influenced by other factors can show> > mental problems to problems in bearing kids .And also we r seeing> > matchting frm lunar position of lady ,so the koota matchting is> > seeing frm that perspectiv ,so its hidden meanings an intellegent> > student shud understand .So match making is not koota matchting but> > matchting between 2 charts .> > > Â> > > also other duryogas like extinction of family to high expenses> > leading to various problems also shud b checked .> > > Â> > > all this needs high expertise and it also needs will to learn with> > a guru or guide other than just try to see lessons in net or even> > books ,as it needs lot of exprnce and even directions .other wise> > half baked knowledge will b leading to more danger and we may even> > block marriage of most eligible persons .> > > Â> > > more in next> > > regrds sunil nair> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > Â> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 " because u r mentioning abt me " I admire your openess... blessings Renu , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > dear chandu chill ji. > > it is fate of astrologers . > > because u r mentioning abt me ,u only requested for mariiage prospectus > and not for all subsequesnt matches > > ,when u sent request again i was ready even to help that ( offcource > after repeated requests ) but i asked u some details of girl to re > confirm i a seeing right chart which u dont supply ,so what to do ??if u > supply it i dont got it ,because even first email u gave me was getting > bounced and then u know it and u sent in diffrnt id too ( first reading > u got it in that id ) but remebr astrologer is not bound to giv reading > for all match making because it is a serious business ,even me or no one > in world can do it if he is a professional .AS every marriage proposals > may b go upto 30 to 100 proposals .And we r analaysing not one chart but > 2 charts each time so almost 4 to 8 hrs depending on complexity of > charts it required and also some ppl may ask a list of questions to b > answered ,so has to see on each match > > > > hope u understand and review ur understanding . > > > > THe second one i offered is a free frm my side and u got reading for > what u paid . > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > , " Chandu2chill " > <nanna_id2006@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sri G.C. Mouliswer Ji, > > > > If i may add my few cents, > > > > I echo the same views as you mentioned.. i.e. Marriage or everything > > parse happens as per the PAST KARMA and no one can't stop.. > > > > Just recently, i had requested and asked (Paid Service) one of the > > learned and experienced Astrologer (who is also an Active Member of > > this forum) about my Brother's Marriage proposal and marriage > > prospects with the proposed girl, he initially responded with some > > guidance, BUT after taking Bride's details and despite my repeated > > request(s) he simply disappeared!! (Disappeared = not responding to > > my queries at all!) > > > > What do you call it? Is it due to Past Karma of me or my brother? > > > > And i raised this below question sometime back also in the same fourm > > > > If everything happens as per the PAST KARMA then WHY do we need > > Astrology/Astrologer? > > > > Regards > > > > Chandu2Chill > > > > > > , Ghatti Chandra > > Mouliswer ghatti_chandra_mouliswer@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sri Sunil Nair ji, > > >  > > > Every thing including marriage happens according to their past > > KARMA and is  destined to happen accordingly Marriage is also > an > > act of past KARMA.. U n I cant stop such things by mails. > According > > to their KARMA one will approach a person who guides him > according > > to his KARMA.  In my 40 years of experiance in this > field this > > is what I observed. Now a days good number of > > Astrologers  croppedup and matching the  charts on > these 10 > > poruthams which is mainly based on moon position and by star.  > Even > > number of web sites on Astrology giving ready made results basing > on > > Nakshatra kootas and giving %age results resulting in %age > failure/% > > age death after marriage. No body can stop this. It is GOD'S will and > > pleasure. This is my openion. > > >  > > > Thank U, > > >  OM SRI LAXMIGANAPATHAYE NAMAHA. > > > > > > --- On Sat, 20/9/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ > > > Vedic Astrology-- Matchmaking > > Charts > > > > > > Saturday, 20 September, 2008, 2:25 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > Hare rama krishna > > > dear grp . > > >  Matchmaking is becoming some easy business for some > astrologers > > who just go for mechnical way like comparing both moon signs and > > nakshtras ,when i revealed it some grp it moderaters and 40 or 50 yrs > > into astrology savants were after my blood and unleash a gr8 attack > > on me .and when i coutered with alternate questions  was demanding > > to reveal all my long yrs on study in grps .which i said i will fo > > conveneintly but they dont hav any decency to think abt some ones > > time ,availabitity and free will .They thinks by shouting they can > > get it some ones long toiled efforts . > > >  > > > any way i just wanted to discuss the flaws in koota matchting ( in > > north or 10 pointporuttam system in south mainly in kerala ) here . > > >  > > > why Moon is important > > > ------------ --------- > > > Moon is karaka for mind ,it is deha karaka ,indicater of other > > lagna too in vedic astrology also controls water contents in body and > > its rakta karaka too ( partialy ) also in ladies the menses and hence > > productivity also moon has a gr8 say .even to calculate the skhetra > > sputa moon is imp .So moon has a gr8 say in matchting .But that shud > > not b mechanical ,if so we just need a table only and in that > > case we r thinking the human beings are some sort of mechanical > > beings than guided by various karmas and fate and time and free will. > > >  > > > we shud admit that india has high success rate of marriages esp > > among hindus .because there are very good astrologers unlike present > > day astrologers who dont even has the knack to understand various > > terms used in astrology ( i even heard some one says or equates varna > > system which is based on guna and karama as caste system which was > > black mark in indian history which has high traditions and values > > than branding some one born in purticular caste is having this > > dignity or that dignity ,it is against vedic way of life or thoughts > > too ) ,so now almost every one goes for this mechanical system to > > match or reject an alliance . > > >  > > > so this is the main problem this days .Those who dont know how to > > see even one chart properly is entrusted for matchting 2 charts means > > 2 livs .is it not funny ??when this is pointed out that astrologer is > > being hounded down .. > > > so this so called astrologers see lunar positions and mansions and > > feed in computer or uses a spl table and declare results this cpls > > has x% of matchting .so i advise those who go for match making just > > ask astrologer is he is using just koota matchting or porutha > > matchting better ignore astrologer as u can also do it and any > > tom ,dick and harry can do it .( as moon can b in a mansion for 24 > > hrs and a house for almost 2and 1/4 days )so intelligent student can > > see the very basic flaw in this approach and they shud try to > learn > > more , > > > As this is highly defectiv and dangerous system .As horoscopes r > > rejected simply based on certain kootas and ignoring other factors in > > charts such as longitivity window hood ,prosperity ,raja > > yogas ,children and general wellbeing .sexual compatiability ,karmic > > debts etc .No one seems to bother abt the possibility of > > compatiability with respect 2 charts  and judge their capacity > to > > go in for mutual realtionship also no one is bothered abt the > > durability . > > > even parents seems to ( even the cpls who depends on some web sites > > computer generated reports which is written in beutiful language ) > > bothered abt is > > >  who is cheap astrologer or who is free astrologer and avails > > their services only > > >  > > > so marriage is done in haste and laments later and > > tensions ,frustrations and torture for long period after . > > >  > > > Also we must see a moon is influenced by other factors can show > > mental problems to problems in bearing kids .And also we r seeing > > matchting frm lunar position of lady ,so the koota matchting is > > seeing frm that perspectiv ,so its hidden meanings an intellegent > > student shud understand .So match making is not koota matchting but > > matchting between 2 charts . > > >  > > > also other duryogas like extinction of family to high expenses > > leading to various problems also shud b checked . > > >  > > > all this needs high expertise and it also needs will to learn with > > a guru or guide other than just try to see lessons in net or even > > books ,as it needs lot of exprnce and even directions .other wise > > half baked knowledge will b leading to more danger and we may even > > block marriage of most eligible persons . > > >  > > > more in next > > > regrds sunil nair > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 Hare ramakrishna dear GC mouliswar ji here is the words of yogananda paramhamsa on fate and free will ,also we discussed many times here in grp and i am sure u r correct in terms of animals which dont use visesha budhi ,other wise all human beings exercise own will power and try to come out of even defenit problems and events ,of cource it again depends on karma ,but karma was free will of last births and god has given us chance to rectify it ,I dont think no one blindly blv astrologers and will not sent kids to schools how ever big promise of saraswathi yogas in kids chart and wait for it to happen as it is promised in chart .still parents will do their best to educate and giv all support . same is true with all spheres of life .but intelligent parent if blvs in astro he will see it and try to rectify it in early times itself . here is words paramahamsa yogananda Occasionally I told astrologers to select my worse periods, according to planetary indications, and I would still accomplish whatever task I set myself. It is true that my success at such time has been accompanied by extraordinary difficulties. But my conviction has always been justified; faith in the divine protection, and the right use of man's God-given will, are forces formidable beyond any the 'inverted bowl' (sky) can muster. The starry inscription at one's birth, I came to understand, is not that man is a puppet of his past. Its message is rather a prod to pride; the very heavens seek to arouse man's determination to be free of every limitaton." but u r free to hav ur blfs and i do respect it too . Also if u blv spreading awareness is bad and it is god will and pleasure then i dont hav anythig to say ,Then we dont need awareness for anything ,just let is happen as god will ,even u dont need to worry abt tomorrows breakfast if u r destined u will get it .u buy and keep material or not . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , Ghatti Chandra Mouliswer <ghatti_chandra_mouliswer wrote:>> Dear Sri Sunil Nair ji, > Every thing including marriage happens according to their past KARMA and is  destined to happen accordingly Marriage is also an act of past KARMA.. U n I cant stop such things by mails. According to their KARMA one will approach a person who guides him according to his KARMA.  In my 40 years of experiance in this field this is what I observed. Now a days good number of Astrologers  croppedup and matching the  charts on these 10 poruthams which is mainly based on moon position and by star.  Even number of web sites on Astrology giving ready made results basing on Nakshatra kootas and giving %age results resulting in %age failure/%age death after marriage. No body can stop this. It is GOD'S will and pleasure. This is my openion. > Thank U, OM SRI LAXMIGANAPATHAYE NAMAHA.> > --- On Sat, 20/9/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala Vedic Astrology--Matchmaking Charts> > Saturday, 20 September, 2008, 2:25 PM Hare rama krishna dear grp . Matchmaking is becoming some easy business for some astrologers who just go for mechnical way like comparing both moon signs and nakshtras ,when i revealed it some grp it moderaters and 40 or 50 yrs into astrology savants were after my blood and unleash a gr8 attack on me .and when i coutered with alternate questions  was demanding to reveal all my long yrs on study in grps .which i said i will fo conveneintly but they dont hav any decency to think abt some ones time ,availabitity and free will .They thinks by shouting they can get it some ones long toiled efforts . any way i just wanted to discuss the flaws in koota matchting ( in north or 10 pointporuttam system in south mainly in kerala ) here . > why Moon is important> ------------ ---------> Moon is karaka for mind ,it is deha karaka ,indicater of other lagna too in vedic astrology also controls water contents in body and its rakta karaka too ( partialy ) also in ladies the menses and hence productivity also moon has a gr8 say .even to calculate the skhetra sputa moon is imp .So moon has a gr8 say in matchting .But that shud not b mechanical ,if so we just need a table only and in that case we r thinking the human beings are some sort of mechanical beings than guided by various karmas and fate and time and free will. > we shud admit that india has high success rate of marriages esp among hindus .because there are very good astrologers unlike present day astrologers who dont even has the knack to understand various terms used in astrology ( i even heard some one says or equates varna system which is based on guna and karama as caste system which was black mark in indian history which has high traditions and values than branding some one born in purticular caste is having this dignity or that dignity ,it is against vedic way of life or thoughts too ) ,so now almost every one goes for this mechanical system to match or reject an alliance .> so this is the main problem this days .Those who dont know how to see even one chart properly is entrusted for matchting 2 charts means 2 livs .is it not funny ??when this is pointed out that astrologer is being hounded down ..> so this so called astrologers see lunar positions and mansions and feed in computer or uses a spl table and declare results this cpls has x% of matchting .so i advise those who go for match making just ask astrologer is he is using just koota matchting or porutha matchting better ignore astrologer as u can also do it and any tom ,dick and harry can do it .( as moon can b in a mansion for 24 hrs and a house for almost 2and 1/4 days )so intelligent student can see the very basic flaw in this approach and they shud try to learn more ,> As this is highly defectiv and dangerous system .As horoscopes r rejected simply based on certain kootas and ignoring other factors in charts such as longitivity window hood ,prosperity ,raja yogas ,children and general wellbeing .sexual compatiability ,karmic debts etc .No one seems to bother abt the possibility of compatiability with respect 2 charts  and judge their capacity to go in for mutual realtionship also no one is bothered abt the durability .> even parents seems to ( even the cpls who depends on some web sites computer generated reports which is written in beutiful language ) bothered abt is who is cheap astrologer or who is free astrologer and avails their services only > so marriage is done in haste and laments later and tensions ,frustrations and torture for long period after . > Also we must see a moon is influenced by other factors can show mental problems to problems in bearing kids .And also we r seeing matchting frm lunar position of lady ,so the koota matchting is seeing frm that perspectiv ,so its hidden meanings an intellegent student shud understand .So match making is not koota matchting but matchting between 2 charts . > also other duryogas like extinction of family to high expenses leading to various problems also shud b checked . > all this needs high expertise and it also needs will to learn with a guru or guide other than just try to see lessons in net or even books ,as it needs lot of exprnce and even directions .other wise half baked knowledge will b leading to more danger and we may even block marriage of most eligible persons .> more in next> regrds sunil nair> om shreem mahalaxmai namah . 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