Re:Moola Trikona and some basic flaw in rajiv pundit s post

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Hare rama krishna

dear rajiv ji

u r mails r at times aimed with some personal remarks ,it is not good for a discussion forum ,treat this as first warning as it is not civilised way to behav in grp .if some one giv his knowledge or not it is upto him ,this knowldge is frm guru paramapra so even if u hav a guru u hav to wait for him to utter for u ,and he may b having some reasons even may b selfish at times .but ur methods r not the way to get it .

 

now coming to ur post on the embryonic devlpment of a baby in uterus

 

so here we r taking one chandra maasa (27 days ),so we hav to take 10 chandra maasa .and this method is using in many ways even to do some vedic karmas ( as demanded by own culture and parampara ) and even to find the health of the baby by ascertaining adhana lagna ( intercource lagna ) and the planetry position and will say when the mother needs medical attention and when the baby may hav complication and even those masadipa ( month lord ) controling herb s r used in ayurveda and its devatas r used in poojas and worship to avoid mishapps and its food is being given to mom to make baby healthy .This is frm ashtanga hridayam ,the famous budhist ayurvedic text of kerala by vagbatta and its dedicated to the physician s physician whom we can take as god or budha himself .This is used in kerala astrology too as astrologer shud b "aneka hora tantraknja" means knowldgeble in many thing in world .

 

first month is vapa ( fat ) it is mixture of sukla shonitam

 

2nd month this fat becomes a pinda

 

3rd month the legs and hands also growing

 

4th month asti formation

5th month the skin

 

6th month hair

 

7th month chaitanyam

 

8th month it wil hav hunger and thirst

 

9th it will strt moving

10th it will devlp fully

 

now i will not disclose planets as it is part of pooja tantra too ,readers can guesss it but not the way the pundit explained

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

 

 

, "raajeevapndit" <raajeevapndit wrote:>> > Dr Neelam Sir and Group,> > I just saw Your profile amd was really pleased to know that You did> research in Genetics.> > To begin with I admit that I really do not know the answer to it or I> would not have posed the question.> > I have some notions about it for I will put forward a few hypothesis.> > First of all we all believe that all creation and organic structures ets> are similar but scales vary. That is what was pronounced in the dictum> of "Pinde and Brahamande".> > The role each element has to play in the creation and no one else can> play that role is, what is the basis of assigning Moola place and> similarilty of environment existing in trikona rasies to asiist creation> culminates or results inthe concept of Moola Trikana.> > I praised you as Genetics man since what I am proposing now, no one> better than you can understand and further ellucidate on it for the> benefit of the group..> > I repeat agian. My hyposthesis is that creation of huamn is akin to> creation of Universe (except for Big Bang though some bang is also> involved here). We can understand the unverse in reverse manner and> ditermine the role each element , tatve , guna plays at each stage.> > Now please take The chart of Kaala Puusha (Aries as ascendant).> > We Take that the commencement of the process of creation starts from> Aries. Here we take that a female concieves in the begining of aries.> The Moola element for sommencement of that process is Mars. Mars is> repeonsible for providing basic premordial fire (ovam and spermetoza)> and initial agni for cooking cooking (fertilisation , splitting cells> etc and commence the process). At this time the main role is being> played by Mars but secondary role of keeping readiness of soul and> commencement of Journey of Jeeve (jupiter has also begun). So Aries id> Moola rasi of Mars in conuction with elemnts called soul (5th house) and> Life on earth (Jupiter).> > In the second month which element will develop the egg ?? Now, The Moon> will provide fertile groud in the second house. with Little help from> mercury being in trikona in the sixth. his is when formation of pinda in> the earthy shpe under fluid takes place. Third and fourth are> developement of th same.> > The Sun will insert Prana in the fifth house in the fifth month into a> material created by mars and to be given a shape by Jupiter in the ninth> house.> > In the sixth month when the time cycle is in Virgo Rasi, The Mercury> will take charge and provide the feotus senseory development, power of> hearing and greater movement. But again in conjuction with Moon.> > In the seventh month sexual organs of the babay will be developed when> time cycle reach the Moolatrikna venus. venus will do it in conjuction> with saturn and also develop the bone structire fully.> > Finally, in completion of the ninth month, when the time cycle or Kaala> chakra reached Jupiter, the life will be born in the world. Jeeva will> exercise the Jeevatwa at the end of ninth month. It will bring forth a> pinda of flesh (Mars) cintaing Prana (Sun).> > Saturn with his Karma (1oth house) and results of all karmas (11th> house) will now take charge of the Jeeva / the new born.> > > Apply this thory in the creation of universe. We be aable to decipher> something more. Into it. The Sankhya thoey which has been put up by> Sreesog in the archives Throws some light on it.> > All planets moving into their exaltion in todays palnetary cycle and> aptter is not possible as as one of the planet will be left out. However> all planets in their Moola trikona is highly possible. as demonstated> avove.> > In the cycle of human birth the Aries one degree is Adhna Moon and his> birth is in the culmination or during Ninth house time. Soyul is said> to eneter prperly during the fifth month in the fifth house.> > Conversely, the commencement is Fith house and Janma is in Lagan but> that theory is better applied to ditermination of birth Lagna.> > If Moola trikona has degrees, is based on the difference of openions in> the interpretaion of one Varhamihira verse in which he lays down degree> of exaltion. Now one school says that that is the degree of exaltion and> the other says it is upto that degree. Say for Sun one school say> exaltation of Sun is 10 degrees Aries. The other says it is upto 10> degrees Aries. Rest is Moola trikona. There is no decision on that.> Verdicyt on such issues can only be out by application on charts rather> than Arm chair discussion, which many of our astro ancestors seem to> have resorted to. The terms used by Mihira himself like Swauchcha,> Uchchaa, Parmochha etc are undefined and only lead to speculation.> > My limited knowlwdge, is only that much which i have vommitted out.> > The above is only a hint and not explanation for Moola trikona though> the propostion works out very well.> > Kindly do not take any thing amiss . Unless we thrash ideas (not each> other) we will not reach any where.> > You are welcome to thrash this in any manner.> > Comments from members must come or it would be of no use.> > Thank You.> > > , "neelam gupta"> neelamgupta07@ wrote:> >> > Dear Rajeevepandit ji,> >> > Namaste,> >> > We all have our limitations of learning and understanding and we are> all> > here in this forum for sharing what we know and learning more from> others. I> > may be totally wrong. I had just put my views in the group.> > You seem to have a good understanding of systems and a fairly advanced> > knowledge about these issues. I am sure you can share with us your> > understanding about the mool trikona signs with the group. Everyone> would> > greatly benefit from that.> >> > Regards> > Neelam> >>

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Hare rama krishna

dear grp ,

I posted with support of ayurveda ( as it is life science ) and interested ppl can compare with modern medicine ,but they use solar months were as we use lunar .

so compare the hopethesis .

is mars denote first month ,then the child will dry out ? is it not by its fire .

but we all know its is mix of sperm and ovum which is like a fat formation ,so where there is ground for mars fire nature here .

again my trnaslation is frm malayalam words ,but if i want to expand i can write full article on various dvlpment of embryo .

And this knowledge is use full in prashna and even determining adhana lagna ,as royals used consults astrologers for making good muhurtha for kids ,also in iyer community still they take a santhi muhurtha for first union ,so some planets if bad ly placed frm santhi muhurtha lagna the girl will suffer too she is pregant or not .but the month of suffering we can take this way

 

thank u

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

, "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > > Hare rama krishna> > dear rajiv ji> > u r mails r at times aimed with some personal remarks ,it is not good> for a discussion forum ,treat this as first warning as it is not> civilised way to behav in grp .if some one giv his knowledge or not it> is upto him ,this knowldge is frm guru paramapra so even if u hav a guru> u hav to wait for him to utter for u ,and he may b having some reasons> even may b selfish at times .but ur methods r not the way to get it .> > > > now coming to ur post on the embryonic devlpment of a baby in uterus> > > > so here we r taking one chandra maasa (27 days ),so we hav to take 10> chandra maasa .and this method is using in many ways even to do some> vedic karmas ( as demanded by own culture and parampara ) and even to> find the health of the baby by ascertaining adhana lagna ( intercource> lagna ) and the planetry position and will say when the mother needs> medical attention and when the baby may hav complication and even those> masadipa ( month lord ) controling herb s r used in ayurveda and its> devatas r used in poojas and worship to avoid mishapps and its food is> being given to mom to make baby healthy .This is frm ashtanga hridayam> ,the famous budhist ayurvedic text of kerala by vagbatta and its> dedicated to the physician s physician whom we can take as god or budha> himself .This is used in kerala astrology too as astrologer shud b> "aneka hora tantraknja" means knowldgeble in many thing in world .> > > > first month is vapa ( fat ) it is mixture of sukla shonitam> > > > 2nd month this fat becomes a pinda> > > > 3rd month the legs and hands also growing> > > > 4th month asti formation> > 5th month the skin> > > > 6th month hair> > > > 7th month chaitanyam> > > > 8th month it wil hav hunger and thirst> > > > 9th it will strt moving> > 10th it will devlp fully> > > > now i will not disclose planets as it is part of pooja tantra too> ,readers can guesss it but not the way the pundit explained> > > > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .>

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hare rama krishna

dear grp

 

The vedic rituals during the pregnancy of a lady is generaly pumsavanam ( it is blvd to make the kid into a boy and some ayurvedic methods r using but now a days it become just ritual as the ayurvedic knowledge realy drain out ) .

 

and another is seemantham ( may b vedic pundits can explain abt it more )

 

so all this knowledge an intelligent astrologer can use in prashna and planets and he will combine with the tradition of the place for such vedic karma s.Even some family follows other rituals too .offcource now it has just become a simple ritual in many part of south india .Even those who follows it just depending any convenient muhurtha these days .

 

i remebr one famous case of King swathi tirunal maharaja of kerala ,he was crowned when he was in mothers womb and the astrologer has given a letter to brit queen that this is a male kid ,so the royal family cud avoid forceful addition of kerala to brit indian empire because of no successers also they keep a time limit also so no time for the kid to b born and wait for his crowning ,( u know rani laxmi bhai fight for this cause ) so even crowning muhurtha was decided on the basis of easy time and good time for kid and mother .And planets decided the gender of the baby too .

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

, "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > > Hare rama krishna> > dear grp ,> > I posted with support of ayurveda ( as it is life science ) and> interested ppl can compare with modern medicine ,but they use solar> months were as we use lunar .> > so compare the hopethesis .> > is mars denote first month ,then the child will dry out ? is it not by> its fire .> > but we all know its is mix of sperm and ovum which is like a fat> formation ,so where there is ground for mars fire nature here .> > again my trnaslation is frm malayalam words ,but if i want to expand i> can write full article on various dvlpment of embryo .> > And this knowledge is use full in prashna and even determining adhana> lagna ,as royals used consults astrologers for making good muhurtha for> kids ,also in iyer community still they take a santhi muhurtha for first> union ,so some planets if bad ly placed frm santhi muhurtha lagna the> girl will suffer too she is pregant or not .but the month of suffering> we can take this way> > > > thank u> > > > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> >> >> > Hare rama krishna> >> > dear rajiv ji> >> > u r mails r at times aimed with some personal remarks ,it is not good> > for a discussion forum ,treat this as first warning as it is not> > civilised way to behav in grp .if some one giv his knowledge or not it> > is upto him ,this knowldge is frm guru paramapra so even if u hav a> guru> > u hav to wait for him to utter for u ,and he may b having some reasons> > even may b selfish at times .but ur methods r not the way to get it .> >> >> >> > now coming to ur post on the embryonic devlpment of a baby in uterus> >> >> >> > so here we r taking one chandra maasa (27 days ),so we hav to take 10> > chandra maasa .and this method is using in many ways even to do some> > vedic karmas ( as demanded by own culture and parampara ) and even to> > find the health of the baby by ascertaining adhana lagna ( intercource> > lagna ) and the planetry position and will say when the mother needs> > medical attention and when the baby may hav complication and even> those> > masadipa ( month lord ) controling herb s r used in ayurveda and its> > devatas r used in poojas and worship to avoid mishapps and its food is> > being given to mom to make baby healthy .This is frm ashtanga hridayam> > ,the famous budhist ayurvedic text of kerala by vagbatta and its> > dedicated to the physician s physician whom we can take as god or> budha> > himself .This is used in kerala astrology too as astrologer shud b> > "aneka hora tantraknja" means knowldgeble in many thing in world .> >> >> >> > first month is vapa ( fat ) it is mixture of sukla shonitam> >> >> >> > 2nd month this fat becomes a pinda> >> >> >> > 3rd month the legs and hands also growing> >> >> >> > 4th month asti formation> >> > 5th month the skin> >> >> >> > 6th month hair> >> >> >> > 7th month chaitanyam> >> >> >> > 8th month it wil hav hunger and thirst> >> >> >> > 9th it will strt moving> >> > 10th it will devlp fully> >> >> >> > now i will not disclose planets as it is part of pooja tantra too> > ,readers can guesss it but not the way the pundit explained> >> >> >> > regrds sunil nair> >> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> >>

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Hare rama krishna

dear Goel ji

 

Thanks ,pls read all my messges and guide me ,correct me when ever u feel like doing it .

 

thanks and regrds

sunil nair

 

, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:>> Dear Nair ji ,> It is reading perfect.> Thanks and regards,> > > G.K.GOEL> > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala > Friday, 12 September, 2008 10:26:33 PM> Re:Moola Trikona and some basic flaw in rajiv pundit s post> > > > Hare rama krishna> dear goel ji> sorry ,i will change the font and size ,and hope this font is better ,pls advice> > regrds sunil nair> om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Gopal Goel gkgoel1937@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Nair ji,> > I am finding it difficult to read your mails now.> > You may consider to change the font of your mail> > Regards,> >> > G.K.GOEL> >> >> >> > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Friday, 12 September, 2008 12:32:40 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Moola Trikona and some basic flaw in rajiv pundit s post> >> >> >> > Hare rama krishna> > dear grp ,> >  I posted with support of ayurveda ( as it is life science ) and interested ppl can compare with modern medicine ,but they use solar months were as we use lunar .> > so compare the hopethesis .> > is mars denote first month ,then the child will dry out ? is it not by its fire .> > but we all know its is mix of sperm and ovum which is like a fat formation ,so where there is ground for mars fire nature here .> > again my trnaslation is frm malayalam words ,but if i want to expand i can write full article on various dvlpment of embryo .> > And this knowledge is use full in prashna and even determining adhana lagna ,as royals used  consults astrologers for making good muhurtha for kids ,also in iyer community still they take a santhi muhurtha for first union ,so some planets if bad ly placed frm santhi muhurtha lagna the girl will suffer too she is pregant or not .but the month of suffering we can take this way> >> > thank u> >> > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> >>