diabetes

October 23, 2008

Dear members,

Feel this Diabetes is common in 75% of Indian population as per medical reports, so astro_combinations may not work well. Reason:

1) The white rice available in India is a hybrid rice, majority of rice eaters will have diabetes strains Type-I or II or Insulin dependent...type

2) Most of the North Indians are heavy eaters of Milk Sweets - saving factor they also eat wheat which compensates the fibre.

3) Parboiled Rice eaters in Kerala are little better in health amongst rice eaters

4) More so - irrespective of all above a sedate lifestyle i.e. sitting office jobs are more prone to this diabetes.

What is now a chronic dis-order with Indian population, looking for astro_combinations makes little sense. { individual opionion....!! }

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

October 23, 2008

Dear Sreeram Srinivas,

Very Well said.

D D Trivedi--- On Thu, 10/23/08, sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote:

sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 Re: diabetes Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 3:01 PM

Dear members,

Feel this Diabetes is common in 75% of Indian population as per medical reports, so astro_combinations may not work well. Reason:

1) The white rice available in India is a hybrid rice, majority of rice eaters will have diabetes strains Type-I or II or Insulin dependent... type

2) Most of the North Indians are heavy eaters of Milk Sweets - saving factor they also eat wheat which compensates the fibre.

3) Parboiled Rice eaters in Kerala are little better in health amongst rice eaters

4) More so - irrespective of all above a sedate lifestyle i.e. sitting office jobs are more prone to this diabetes.

What is now a chronic dis-order with Indian population, looking for astro_combinations makes little sense. { individual opionion.... !! }

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

September 20, 2009

Dear Srinivas ji, May be watery planets like Moon, Venus and the big planet Jupiter are the major significators behind diabetes. If these planets are placed properly so as to influence the native's body then the body of the native's body is proper (environment ready) to have diseases such as diabetics. As a significator of Sugar Sun or Venus will have to influence as well. This makes the possibility a certainty. But of course as you mentioned it is not only the astrological combinations and possibilities that influence the environment and our body - but also the general habits of the population and nation. This is the very reason we find diseases like Diabetes, Cancer etc as too popular now a days. As phaladeepika puts it even the longevity astrology gives applies only to the people who live a healthy life with good food habits, and devoid of bad habits such as narcotics. Otherwise the longevity will decrease even though won't increase. Similarly if we don't follow the healthy food habits and life style (as we observe in US, India etc now a day), then certainly diseases indicated by astrology will happen for sure but also even if not indicated by horoscope the national diseases (as indicated by the general food habits and environment) may happen, and as a result longevity will decrease. There is no point in blaming astrology for not having combination indicating the same in horoscope in such cases - since astrology already took its bail by stating that the combination related to health it states will apply positively only to people who follow a healthy life style. But it is also good to remember that the combination indicating negative health results will realize even if the combinations are only partially present! Anyway coming to the discussion of diabetes, one combination indicating the same is given in Veera-simha-avalokana. Suram prameha peeditam asmaryopahata manasam santamJanayati ravina drishto jeevagrihe chandraH purusham (Veerasimhaavalokanam)[in natal chart if Moon placed in Jupiter's house and is aspected by Sun, then he will be courageous, but will be troubled by health problems such as diabetes, urinal stone etc] Let us not assume that this is the only combination that can indicate diabetes. As mentioned earlier strong influence of watery planet along with the influence of sugar indicating Sun or Venus is present then that chart can certainly indicate a possible candidate to have diabetes. Or better - he will certainly become a diabetes patient if the corresponding dasa comes. But as mentioned earlier - even such a combination is not required for a modern man living in US to have diabetes due to reasons already clarified.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Sre_eram" <sreeram64 wrote:>> Namaste members,> > With 70% of US population suffering from diabetes, so do the 70% of> Indian population suffering from diabetes..... do not know which planet> is solely responsible... for it is related to basic lifestyle with> people becoming more lazy and lethargic with advent of all types of> REMOTES> > With regards,> Sreeram_Srinivas>

September 21, 2009

Dear Sreenadh ji and Sreeram ji,

Further extension about Venus regarding diabetes.We know it is related to sugar

burn and insulin secretion system in the body.If intake sugar convert properly

in glucose or energy by insulin which is secretes by pancreas than there is no

Diabetes.

Now what is the Natural treatment for Diabetes ?Physical exercise,Walking daily

4-5 Km,control diet.

Venus is the planet for Sex,what happens if some body doing Sex he burn the

calories,heart beating fast,energy consume,Sugar converted in energy.So if a

person Sexually active than less chances of Diabetes and Heart disease.

So unmarried persons or Sexually inactive person have more chances of these

disease.Venus have prominent role here.If Venus is weak,effected by malefic,in

6,8th house OR Venus is strong but Dasha Period effects the Planet than the more

chances of Diabetes.We know most of the time it happens at later age.Even in

young age so many people are have inactive Sex life.In your friend circle if you

have any diabetic person than asked about his Sex life.

We know women are very less compares to men because they are more active in

physical work.Born disease also have to study astrologically.

Its all my personal observation,just try it and find any relation as above.

Thanks,

M.S.Bohra

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September 21, 2009

Dear Sreesog,

A brief note on Diabetes...

1. If the sub-lord of the VIth house(denoting disease),is either Venus,Jupiter or Moon,and connected to the Houses I & VI,and also the signs Libra,or watery signs Cancer,Scorpio and Pisces one will become a victim of Diabetes...the period of contracting Diabetes,will be during the Dasa/Bhukti/Anthara/Sookshma of the significators of I & VI...

2. The pancreas ,which secretes insulin,is ruled by the VIth house...and pancreatic glands are ruled by Venus,Venus also indicates "lack of exercise"...

3. Jupiter rules over the Liver,and denotes Fats ,Glycogen etc.,while Venus and Moon denote milk,or syrup,sugar...while Mercury denoted micturition... 4. Diabetes is practically a Jupiterian Disease,because,Jupiter governs the Liver.He is also responsible for the production of bile,for the proper digestion of our food intake,and the proper functioning of the Liver is most essential for 'burning up' the intake of sugar,starches and carbohydrates...

5. A combination of Jupiter and Saturn will cause disturbance in the proper functioning of the Liver,which in turn will lead to diabetes...

6. The VIIth house of the natural Zodiac,Libra,governs the Kidneys,i.e.,Libra governs the Kidneys,responsible for producing insulin,the deficiency of which causes Diabetes....and so on...

7. This,in my opinion is how Diabetes should be approached...

More dtails are available in "Medical Astrology" by K.Subramaniam...

Yogesh Lajmi.

sreesog <sreesog Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:30:42 AM Re: Diabetes

Dear Srinivas ji, May be watery planets like Moon, Venus and the big planet Jupiter are the major significators behind diabetes. If these planets are placed properly so as to influence the native's body then the body of the native's body is proper (environment ready) to have diseases such as diabetics. As a significator of Sugar Sun or Venus will have to influence as well. This makes the possibility a certainty. But of course as you mentioned it is not only the astrological combinations and possibilities that influence the environment and our body - but also the general habits of the population and nation. This is the very reason we find diseases like Diabetes, Cancer etc as too popular now a days. As phaladeepika puts it even the longevity astrology gives applies only to the people who live a healthy life with good food habits, and devoid of bad habits such as

narcotics. Otherwise the longevity will decrease even though won't increase. Similarly if we don't follow the healthy food habits and life style (as we observe in US, India etc now a day), then certainly diseases indicated by astrology will happen for sure but also even if not indicated by horoscope the national diseases (as indicated by the general food habits and environment) may happen, and as a result longevity will decrease. There is no point in blaming astrology for not having combination indicating the same in horoscope in such cases - since astrology already took its bail by stating that the combination related to health it states will apply positively only to people who follow a healthy life style. But it is also good to remember that the combination indicating negative health results will realize even if the combinations are only partially present! Anyway coming to the discussion of diabetes, one combination

indicating the same is given in Veera-simha- avalokana. Suram prameha peeditam asmaryopahata manasam santamJanayati ravina drishto jeevagrihe chandraH purusham (Veerasimhaavalokan am)[in natal chart if Moon placed in Jupiter's house and is aspected by Sun, then he will be courageous, but will be troubled by health problems such as diabetes, urinal stone etc] Let us not assume that this is the only combination that can indicate diabetes. As mentioned earlier strong influence of watery planet along with

the influence of sugar indicating Sun or Venus is present then that chart can certainly indicate a possible candidate to have diabetes. Or better - he will certainly become a diabetes patient if the corresponding dasa comes. But as mentioned earlier - even such a combination is not required for a modern man living in US to have diabetes due to reasons already clarified.Love and regards,Sreenadhancient_indian_ astrology, "Sre_eram" <sreeram64@.. .> wrote:>> Namaste members,> > With 70% of US population suffering from diabetes, so do the 70% of> Indian population suffering from diabetes.... . do not know which planet> is solely responsible. ... for it is related to basic lifestyle with> people becoming more lazy and lethargic with advent of all types of> REMOTES> > With regards,>

Sreeram_Srinivas>

September 21, 2009

Dear sree nadh ji

What I understand , that as per my knowledge in vedic astrlogy , before prediction we have to keep two things in our mind, Desh ( country), Kaal, then we have to predict,

InIndia and America food habits are very different, so astrolgy is pure data based science, so as per my veiw same rule cant be apply.

Regards

DR Mishra--- On Sun, 9/20/09, sreesog <sreesog wrote:

sreesog <sreesog Re: Diabetes Received: Sunday, September 20, 2009, 9:00 PM

Dear Srinivas ji, May be watery planets like Moon, Venus and the big planet Jupiter are the major significators behind diabetes. If these planets are placed properly so as to influence the native's body then the body of the native's body is proper (environment ready) to have diseases such as diabetics. As a significator of Sugar Sun or Venus will have to influence as well. This makes the possibility a certainty. But of course as you mentioned it is not only the astrological combinations and possibilities that influence the environment and our body - but also the general habits of the population and nation. This is the very reason we find diseases like Diabetes, Cancer etc as too popular now a days. As phaladeepika puts it even the longevity astrology gives applies only to the people who live a healthy life with good food habits, and devoid of bad habits such as

narcotics. Otherwise the longevity will decrease even though won't increase. Similarly if we don't follow the healthy food habits and life style (as we observe in US, India etc now a day), then certainly diseases indicated by astrology will happen for sure but also even if not indicated by horoscope the national diseases (as indicated by the general food habits and environment) may happen, and as a result longevity will decrease. There is no point in blaming astrology for not having combination indicating the same in horoscope in such cases - since astrology already took its bail by stating that the combination related to health it states will apply positively only to people who follow a healthy life style. But it is also good to remember that the combination indicating negative health results will realize even if the combinations are only partially present! Anyway coming to the discussion of diabetes, one combination

indicating the same is given in Veera-simha- avalokana. Suram prameha peeditam asmaryopahata manasam santamJanayati ravina drishto jeevagrihe chandraH purusham (Veerasimhaavalokan am)[in natal chart if Moon placed in Jupiter's house and is aspected by Sun, then he will be courageous, but will be troubled by health problems such as diabetes, urinal stone etc] Let us not assume that this is the only combination that can indicate diabetes. As mentioned earlier strong influence of watery planet along with

the influence of sugar indicating Sun or Venus is present then that chart can certainly indicate a possible candidate to have diabetes. Or better - he will certainly become a diabetes patient if the corresponding dasa comes. But as mentioned earlier - even such a combination is not required for a modern man living in US to have diabetes due to reasons already clarified.Love and regards,Sreenadhancient_indian_ astrology, "Sre_eram" <sreeram64@.. .> wrote:>> Namaste members,> > With 70% of US population suffering from diabetes, so do the 70% of> Indian population suffering from diabetes.... . do not know which planet> is solely responsible. ... for it is related to basic lifestyle with> people becoming more lazy and lethargic with advent of all types of> REMOTES> > With regards,>

Sreeram_Srinivas>

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September 21, 2009

Namaste Mr. Bohra ji,

//Venus is the planet for Sex,what happens if some body doing Sex he

burn the calories,heart beating fast,energy consume,Sugar converted in

energy.So if a person Sexually active than less chances of Diabetes and

Heart disease........So unmarried persons or Sexually inactive person

have more chances of these disease//

Linking diabetes to sexual activeness would be a overstatement for we

all know how promiscuous is Western world and need no introduction to

Indian population growth rate.....

The single most factor is change in lifestyle or sedate life. Then

astrologically 6H & 6HL and 6th sign (Virgo) playing active role.

Adding to Sreenadh's observation of watery signs....makes a meaningful

statement. The data on women is very less, for most of the companies

now have mandatory medical testing prior to employment.... so the

highest working employees are generally men, so it gets noticed or

diabetes gets surfaced during testing. Very few cases, where a

housewife is given regular medical check or looked into for healthiness

for the focus is on bread earner - in general. Ofcourse, in downtown

areas, my personal experience is that often seen women working more

than men......men are often seen with hookas (smoking through the water

pipes) and loitering .... hence, women being more active....so they are

less prone to diabetes... for men are more lazy- working in Air

Conditioned offices and moving in vehicles......

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

September 21, 2009

Namaste Mr. Yogesh Lajmi ji,

Your message on this topic of diabetes is a good one..... very

convincing..... would add one more note - Venus being a planet of luxury

like Rahu, hence, less exercise.....more comfort....the perfect

combination for diabetes....i.e. NOT working. If Venus has relation to

3H or 3HL then can add or reduce problems. Connection with planets

like Mars (shoulders) will reduce... for such people will be more active

driven by Mars....so cannot have diabetes..... connection with benefic

planets again here Jupiter..etc.. only compounds....for Jupiter means

again reading or engaging in indoor activities....unlike Mars...more

outdoor.....

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

September 21, 2009

Dear Yogesh Lajmi Jiyour note on diadetes has raised some doubt in me, hence i seek clarification.As per medical manuals insulin is produced in islet of langerhans in pancreas. but in point no. 6 that libra rules Kidney which is responsible in producing insulin? well this astrological correlation does not match medical manual.in point no. 2 you mention pancreas secrets insulin. Does this mean that Kidney produce insulin which travels to pancreas and than secreted from there? well medically never heard of such process.So can you elaborate function of Kindey being cause of diabetes.Amit Desai

September 21, 2009

Sirs,

I am quoting a short note on Diabetes I found in the file section of one of the groups.

Diabetes

In the astrology classics the disease has been classified as â€˜vasti rogâ€™ or â€˜mootrashaya rogâ€™ and has been referred to as â€˜madhumehâ€™ or â€˜pramehâ€™.

I have found the following references for this disease in the classics. The following placements can cause diabetes. I have added to the list other combinations which I have found, during my astrology practice, to be causing diabetes.

[ 1 ] mercury in signs of Jupiter { dhanu & meen} and under the aspect of Sun [ saravali ch 26 shlok 55 ]

[ 2 ] Saturn + Sun + Venus in the 5th house [ jatak tattwa viv 6 sutra 107]

[ 3 ] Sun in the ascendant and Mars in the 7th [ jatak tattwa viv 6 sutra 108]

[ 4 ] Mars in the 10th either conjunct or aspected by Saturn [ jatak tattwa viv 6 sutra 109]

[ 5 ] Mars in the 6th and the 6th lord with paap grah [ Daivagyabharan pra 14 shlok 29]

[ 6 ] 8th house under the aspect of Mars [ Vrihadyavan jatak pra 96 shlok 3]

My experience : Combinations which I found could also cause diabetes

[ 7 ] Sun with either venus or Saturn in the 5th house

[ 8 ] Mars + Saturn in the 10th house

[ 9 ] 6th house and/or the 6th lord, 4th house and/or 4th lord under the

aspect of paapi grah

[ 10 ] Influence of paapi grah on jal rasi in the 5th house

[ 11] association of Virgo with the 4th or the 6th house

[ 12 ] manda { malefic } Jupiter in the 6th house

[ 13 ] Moon + Ketu in the 5th house

[ 14 ] Ketu in the 4th house

Pandit Bhooshan Priya

, "Sre_eram" <sreeram64 wrote:>> Namaste Mr. Yogesh Lajmi ji,> > Your message on this topic of diabetes is a good one..... very> convincing..... would add one more note - Venus being a planet of luxury> like Rahu, hence, less exercise.....more comfort....the perfect> combination for diabetes....i.e. NOT working. If Venus has relation to> 3H or 3HL then can add or reduce problems. Connection with planets> like Mars (shoulders) will reduce... for such people will be more active> driven by Mars....so cannot have diabetes..... connection with benefic> planets again here Jupiter..etc.. only compounds....for Jupiter means> again reading or engaging in indoor activities....unlike Mars...more> outdoor.....> > With regards,> Sreeram_Srinivas>

September 21, 2009

Dear ones,A great spiritual personality whom i know in person used to say i have opinions from desease to divinity and the beauty is he never gave any opinion of his on anything.But here we are not discussing opinions but trying to find out truth with the help of astrology.As a diabetic and also a research student of astrology i am giving my OBSERVATIONS below.1.As we all know 6thH/6L should be seen for any desease including diabetes.Either6thH or 6L OR both should be aflicted to start with.The afliction could be natural/functional malefics along with one of jup/ven.2. Dwadasamsa(D12) also to be seen for confirmation on the above lines.3.The planets concerned are jup and venus along with one of the natural malefics including Rah/ketu and the signs concerned are watery, since diabetes is blood/urine related.4.Moon is also to be checked as a watery planet for its aflictions from mars specially in D12.5.12th H/L also to be checked for hospitalisation on the above lines.6.L/L of Rasi to be conected /aflicted by jup(sweety) or mars(blood) in D12.(this is found in many charts)jup and ven periods are prone to give diabetes if the above combinations are thereLearned members can check it out for themselves with the available charts with them...Love and regards,gopi. , "msbohra62" <msbohra62 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji and Sreeram ji,> > Further extension about Venus regarding diabetes.We know it is related to sugar burn and insulin secretion system in the body.If intake sugar convert properly in glucose or energy by insulin which is secretes by pancreas than there is no Diabetes.> > Now what is the Natural treatment for Diabetes ?Physical exercise,Walking daily 4-5 Km,control diet.> > Venus is the planet for Sex,what happens if some body doing Sex he burn the calories,heart beating fast,energy consume,Sugar converted in energy.So if a person Sexually active than less chances of Diabetes and Heart disease.> > So unmarried persons or Sexually inactive person have more chances of these disease.Venus have prominent role here.If Venus is weak,effected by malefic,in 6,8th house OR Venus is strong but Dasha Period effects the Planet than the more chances of Diabetes.We know most of the time it happens at later age.Even in young age so many people are have inactive Sex life.In your friend circle if you have any diabetic person than asked about his Sex life.> > We know women are very less compares to men because they are more active in physical work.Born disease also have to study astrologically.> > Its all my personal observation,just try it and find any relation as above.> > Thanks,> > M.S.Bohra> > I> > t.> > > > :> >> > Dear Srinivi> M> > >> M> > > > May be watery planets like Mooe> > > ig plahe planet Jut Jup are> are> > M> jor sign dicbdiiaut Jup ara pls> > Ms arealrcesd> dipro eed> >so > s > erlane > lyseealrcesd> e puenceat>so > s > e lyso > lyserttt eee> hnf propeppe> > ialse > > > nett> > ertt eee> > propeppe> > > pn > > > > > > renti> bey dha > bcar (m> hhatessvdabcarl we> > dha > > > > ell.aticadhavearl wee > das> >vdal wl.e o> > V das apevee Vave> >vdaa> ui poet> V as hthtsall.e passic> ui pootc Vtoethth> sa > po itsecatihhlt hh os> w> and> c pocitsesnties thstro> > r saiic t ce infatiins a> ities thibil tie> ibil tie in> li thatnvirongene the uur bodf the popon. 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September 21, 2009

Dear Satpal ji,

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mercury in signs of Jupiter { dhanu & meen} and under the aspect of

Sun [ saravali ch 26 shlok 55 ]//

Please tell us how Sun can aspect Mercury! For this to happen Mercury

should be in 7th house from Sun, which is an astronomical impossibility!

Most possibly that misinterpretation sprung from misquoting ChandraH (Moon) as

ChandrajaH (Mercury) - the meaning going upside down! As I have quoted earlier,

what the quote points to here is that - Moon (and not mercury) should be in the

sign of Jupiter and Sun should aspect it. Moon a watery planet in Jupiter a big

planet's sign indicate a heavy body that can be apt seat of diseases such as

diabetics and Sun the significator of sugar cane's aspect confirms the

possibility of having diabetic. It is more useful to approach quotes in

realistic and logical manner - based on understanding of basic significance

than to blindly believe in the quotes or their many times erroneous interpretations

given in texts.

//> In the astrology classics the disease has been classified as

"vasti rog" or "mootrashaya rog"//

This is wrong. Vasti roga is a word that points to diseases

related to lower abdomen or naval/hip portion. Numerous diseases could happen

related to this portion of the body and it is totally erroneous to assume that

all diseases that happen related to this body portion is diabetes only!

"Mootrasaya roga" means diseases related to Urinary bladder or

urinary organs and NOT diabetes. The word used for Diabetes is

"Prameha" - only the quotes and combinations that refers to the

disease "Prameha" indicate Diabetes; excess sugar. Otherwise

following erroneous guidance we will reach erroneous conclusions. Please recheck the combinations you provided based on this base criteria and understanding.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

, "khurana_satpal" <khurana_satpal wrote:>> > Sirs,> > I am quoting a short note on Diabetes I found in the file section of one> of the groups.> > Diabetes> > > > In the astrology classics the disease has been classified as> â€˜vasti rogâ€™ or â€˜mootrashaya rogâ€™ and has> been referred to as â€˜madhumehâ€™ or â€˜pramehâ€™.> > > > I have found the following references for this disease in the classics.> The following placements can cause diabetes. I have added to the list> other combinations which I have found, during my astrology practice, to> be causing diabetes.> > > > [ 1 ] mercury in signs of Jupiter { dhanu & meen} and under the aspect> of Sun [ saravali ch 26 shlok 55 ]> > > > [ 2 ] Saturn + Sun + Venus in the 5th house [ jatak tattwa viv 6 sutra> 107]> > > > [ 3 ] Sun in the ascendant and Mars in the 7th [ jatak tattwa viv 6> sutra 108]> > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the 10th either conjunct or aspected by Saturn [ jatak> tattwa viv 6 sutra 109]> > > > [ 5 ] Mars in the 6th and the 6th lord with paap grah [ Daivagyabharan> pra 14 shlok 29]> > > > [ 6 ] 8th house under the aspect of Mars [ Vrihadyavan jatak pra 96> shlok 3]> > > > My experience : Combinations which I found could also cause diabetes> > > > [ 7 ] Sun with either venus or Saturn in the 5th house> > > > [ 8 ] Mars + Saturn in the 10th house> > > > [ 9 ] 6th house and/or the 6th lord, 4th house and/or 4th lord under the> > > > aspect of paapi grah> > > > [ 10 ] Influence of paapi grah on jal rasi in the 5th house> > > > [ 11] association of Virgo with the 4th or the 6th house> > > > [ 12 ] manda { malefic } Jupiter in the 6th house> > > > [ 13 ] Moon + Ketu in the 5th house> > > > [ 14 ] Ketu in the 4th house> > > > Pandit Bhooshan Priya

September 21, 2009

Dear Sreenadh ji,

You are right the word should be Moon. It can not be mercury.

As for your second point the disease could have been classified under 'vasti

rog' but as mentioned " and has

> > been referred to as â€˜madhumehâ€™ or

> â€˜pramehâ€™. "

Sincerely,

SP Khurana

, " sreesog " <sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Satpal ji,

> //[ 1 ] mercury in signs of Jupiter { dhanu & meen} and under the

> aspect of Sun [ saravali ch 26 shlok 55 ]//

> Please tell us how Sun can aspect Mercury! For this to happen Mercury

> should be in 7th house from Sun, which is an astronomical impossibility!

> Most possibly that misinterpretation sprung from misquoting ChandraH

> (Moon) as ChandrajaH (Mercury) - the meaning going upside down! As I

> have quoted earlier, what the quote points to here is that - Moon (and

> not mercury) should be in the sign of Jupiter and Sun should aspect it.

> Moon a watery planet in Jupiter a big planet's sign indicate a heavy

> body that can be apt seat of diseases such as diabetics and Sun the

> significator of sugar cane's aspect confirms the possibility of having

> diabetic. It is more useful to approach quotes in realistic and logical

> manner - based on understanding of basic significance than to blindly

> believe in the quotes or their many times erroneous interpretations

> given in texts.

> //> In the astrology classics the disease has been classified as " vasti

> rog " or " mootrashaya rog " //

> This is wrong. Vasti roga is a word that points to diseases related

> to lower abdomen or naval/hip portion. Numerous diseases could happen

> related to this portion of the body and it is totally erroneous to

> assume that all diseases that happen related to this body portion is

> diabetes only! " Mootrasaya roga " means diseases related to Urinary

> bladder or urinary organs and NOT diabetes. The word used for Diabetes

> is " Prameha " - only the quotes and combinations that refers to the

> disease " Prameha " indicate Diabetes; excess sugar. Otherwise following

> erroneous guidance we will reach erroneous conclusions.

>

> Please recheck the combinations you provided based on this base

> criteria and understanding.

>

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " khurana_satpal "

> <khurana_satpal@> wrote:

> >

> > Sirs,

> >

> > I am quoting a short note on Diabetes I found in the file section of

> one

> > of the groups.

> >

> > Diabetes

> >

> > In the astrology classics the disease has been classified as

> > â€˜vasti rogâ€™ or â€˜mootrashaya rogâ€™ and has

> > been referred to as â€˜madhumehâ€™ or

> â€˜pramehâ€™.

> >

> > I have found the following references for this disease in the

> classics.

> > The following placements can cause diabetes. I have added to the list

> > other combinations which I have found, during my astrology practice,

> to

> > be causing diabetes.

> >

> > [ 1 ] mercury in signs of Jupiter { dhanu & meen} and under the

> aspect

> > of Sun [ saravali ch 26 shlok 55 ]

> >

> > [ 2 ] Saturn + Sun + Venus in the 5th house [ jatak tattwa viv 6

> sutra

> > 107]

> >

> > [ 3 ] Sun in the ascendant and Mars in the 7th [ jatak tattwa viv 6

> > sutra 108]

> >

> > [ 4 ] Mars in the 10th either conjunct or aspected by Saturn [ jatak

> > tattwa viv 6 sutra 109]

> >

> > [ 5 ] Mars in the 6th and the 6th lord with paap grah [ Daivagyabharan

> > pra 14 shlok 29]

> >

> > [ 6 ] 8th house under the aspect of Mars [ Vrihadyavan jatak pra 96

> > shlok 3]

> >

> > My experience : Combinations which I found could also cause diabetes

> >

> > [ 7 ] Sun with either venus or Saturn in the 5th house

> >

> > [ 8 ] Mars + Saturn in the 10th house

> >

> > [ 9 ] 6th house and/or the 6th lord, 4th house and/or 4th lord under

> the

> >

> > aspect of paapi grah

> >

> > [ 10 ] Influence of paapi grah on jal rasi in the 5th house

> >

> > [ 11] association of Virgo with the 4th or the 6th house

> >

> > [ 12 ] manda { malefic } Jupiter in the 6th house

> >

> > [ 13 ] Moon + Ketu in the 5th house

> >

> > [ 14 ] Ketu in the 4th house

> >

> > Pandit Bhooshan Priya

>

September 21, 2009

Dear Amit,

You are right,the sentence should have read...Libra Governs the Kidneys and the Pancreas...(that the beta-cells in the eyelets of Langheran,in the pancreas.... produce insulin).

Thanks for pointing that out( I am an ex-Pfizerite who introduced Diabenese to doctors in India).

Yogesh Lajmi.

amit desai <amitwho Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:08:37 AM Re: Diabetes

Dear Yogesh Lajmi Ji

your note on diadetes has raised some doubt in me, hence i seek clarification.

As per medical manuals insulin is produced in islet of langerhans in pancreas.

but in point no. 6 that libra rules Kidney which is responsible in producing insulin? well this astrological correlation does not match medical manual.

in point no. 2 you mention pancreas secrets insulin. Does this mean that Kidney produce insulin which travels to pancreas and than secreted from there? well medically never heard of such process.

So can you elaborate function of Kindey being cause of diabetes.Amit Desai

September 21, 2009

Dear Bohraji,

Also heredity plays a big role...if one of the parents is Diabetic the chances of acquiring Diabetes are 50 % and if both parents are Diabetic,the chances are 100% it is said...

Therefore,it may be worth while to investigate if the Ascendant can indicate any possibility of inheriting/acquiring Diabetes and obviously be of help to predict acquiring diabetes in advance and with confidence ...this is my suggestion to the Group....

Comments/critique/reactions are welcome...

Yogesh Lajmi

GOOD LUCK

msbohra62 <msbohra62 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 3:54:38 AM Re: Diabetes

Dear Sreenadh ji and Sreeram ji,Further extension about Venus regarding diabetes.We know it is related to sugar burn and insulin secretion system in the body.If intake sugar convert properly in glucose or energy by insulin which is secretes by pancreas than there is no Diabetes.Now what is the Natural treatment for Diabetes ?Physical exercise,Walking daily 4-5 Km,control diet.Venus is the planet for Sex,what happens if some body doing Sex he burn the calories,heart beating fast,energy consume,Sugar converted in energy.So if a person Sexually active than less chances of Diabetes and Heart disease.So unmarried persons or Sexually inactive person have more chances of these disease.Venus have prominent role here.If Venus is weak,effected by malefic,in 6,8th house OR Venus is strong but Dasha Period effects the Planet than the more chances of Diabetes.We know most of the time it happens at later age.Even in young age so many

people are have inactive Sex life.In your friend circle if you have any diabetic person than asked about his Sex life.We know women are very less compares to men because they are more active in physical work.Born disease also have to study astrologically.Its all my personal observation, just try it and find any relation as above.Thanks,M.S.BohraIt.:>> Dear SriniviM>MMay be watery planets like Mooeig plahe planet Jut Jup areare> Mjor sign dicbdiiaut Jup ara pls> Ms arealrcesddipro eed>so s erlane lyseealrcesde puenceat>so s e lyso lyserttt eeehnf propeppeialse nettertt eee> propeppe> pn > rentibey dha bcar (mhhatessvdabcarl wedha > > ell.aticadhavearl wee > das>vdal wl.e

oV das apevee Vave>vdaaui poetV as hthtsall.e passicui pootc Vtoeththsa po itsecatihhlt hh oswandc pocitsesnties thstror saiic t ce infatiins aities thibil tieibil tie inli thatnvirongene the uur bodf the popon. Thdyans the on. Theason we> find disea we> fi DiabseasesClike Ditc as too popular now a days. As> phaladeepika puttyyasyrollivgliv eliasyroes onny to> thepeople who l lveale who l lvlaivele who l lve aive to>thethelveaivele who l wvo ivve iierwyalwhohepwil Othee thevl sete rwe whvl sete'wisecveo e.te'w seher't increaety wiim incry if we don'arlyeif we dn'ten't ifcrease. Similarease. Similat foll e don tefoll w thd hein US, a day)tc now a cert they diseatainly dcated by astrology will happen for suappeut also> even if not

indicated by horoscope the national diseases (as indicated> by the general food habits and environment) may happen, and as a result> longevity will decrease. There is no point in blaming astrology for not> having combination indicating the same in horoscope in such cases -> since astrology already took its bail by stating that the combination> related to health it states will apply positively only to people who> follow a healthy life style. But it is also good to remember that the> combination indicating negative health results will realize even if the> combinations are only partially present!> Anyway coming to the discussion of diabetes, one combination> indicating the same is given in Veera-simha- avalokana.> Surampm m eanmsanmaatnnaapm a drdmho jejva rihierihieihhihejvadyhpaeaaam hpaeaam paa m aa

hinhiereiavahejvaareaaaa hha padpadratoVe rihihi rdildilra ri>mhhVe ae al a Veh hphV a i lm erl ter's h eri l bh h cte a ib, but wJupiterill b hwill be cb p byleJuber's e> su b e led b p byltosbyltone etc]en heiurinal stoinoblhisne ts]>l bes onls abmbinatlrinthatts only s only abmbinatirinthat cate> dcateno Ases no As mene tned earlng influence of ence of wate c pong> along>e inhluen influence of sugar indicatingVenu or Venus is present then that> chart can certainly indicate a possible candidate to have diabetes. Or> better - he will certainly become a diabetes patient if the> corresponding dasa comes. But as mentioned earlier - even> coa> coatioatio req not required for a modern man living in US to

havees due tn idue tn isasons already clarified.> Love and regards,> Sreen> diabetes ient_incient_ indian_astrology @yah.com, "S.comre_era <sre"> <sreeram64@> wrote:> >> > Namaste mem>s > W>>it% ram > <ram"> <pulation sufrom di betebetes, eo the 7d% ohe 70% ofhW70%nulatioopulati on suffe from riabetesetes. ...so so to tow which> planedian pis solely responsible. abetes te ..... do d t kbasic lifestyle with> becomingbecoming mle...azy ant is ith addenth advent of all types of> > REMOTES> >> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> >>

September 21, 2009

Dear Bohra ji,//So unmarried persons or Sexually inactive person have more chances of these disease//the above statement i disagree since majority of people are married and active in sex not like me .I am in a minority.But still people are prone to diabetes with their life styles,specially eating habits and indoor activity.People these days are not exposed to nature in whom they were born,live and die.They are not only living in closed doors but also closed minds......Love and regards,gopi. , "msbohra62" <msbohra62 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji and Sreeram ji,> > Further extension about Venus regarding diabetes.We know it is related to sugar burn and insulin secretion system in the body.If intake sugar convert properly in glucose or energy by insulin which is secretes by pancreas than there is no Diabetes.> > Now what is the Natural treatment for Diabetes ?Physical exercise,Walking daily 4-5 Km,control diet.> > Venus is the planet for Sex,what happens if some body doing Sex he burn the calories,heart beating fast,energy consume,Sugar converted in energy.So if a person Sexually active than less chances of Diabetes and Heart disease.> > So unmarried persons or Sexually inactive person have more chances of these disease.Venus have prominent role here.If Venus is weak,effected by malefic,in 6,8th house OR Venus is strong but Dasha Period effects the Planet than the more chances of Diabetes.We know most of the time it happens at later age.Even in young age so many people are have inactive Sex life.In your friend circle if you have any diabetic person than asked about his Sex life.> > We know women are very less compares to men because they are more active in physical work.Born disease also have to study astrologically.> > Its all my personal observation,just try it and find any relation as above.> > Thanks,> > M.S.Bohra> > I> > t.> > > > :> >> > Dear Srinivi> M> > >> M> > > > May be watery planets like Mooe> > > ig plahe planet Jut Jup are> are> > M> jor sign dicbdiiaut Jup ara pls> > Ms arealrcesd> dipro eed> >so > s > erlane > lyseealrcesd> e puenceat>so > s > e lyso > lyserttt eee> hnf propeppe> > ialse > > > nett> > ertt eee> > propeppe> > > pn > > > > > > renti> bey dha > bcar (m> hhatessvdabcarl we> > dha > > > > ell.aticadhavearl wee > das> >vdal wl.e o> > V das apevee Vave> >vdaa> ui poet> V as hthtsall.e passic> ui pootc Vtoethth> sa > po itsecatihhlt hh os> w> and> c pocitsesnties thstro> > r saiic t ce infatiins a> ities thibil tie> ibil tie in> li thatnvirongene the uur bodf the popon. Thdyans the on. Theason we> > find disea we> > fi DiabseasesClike Ditc as too popular now a days. As> > phaladeepika puttyyasyrollivgliveliasyroes onny to> > the> people who l l> ve> > ale who l l> vl> > > aivele who l l> ve aive to> >> the> > the> l> ve> > aivele who l w> vo > ivve > i> > > > ierwyal> whohe> pwil Othee thevl set> > e rwe whvl set> e'wisecveo e.> te'w seher't increaety wiim incry if we don'arlyeif we d> n'ten't ifcrease. Similarease. Simila> t foll e don tefoll w thd hein US, a day)tc now a > cert they diseatainly dcated by astrology will happen for suappeut also> > even if not indicated by horoscope the national diseases (as indicated> > by the general food habits and environment) may happen, and as a result> > longevity will decrease. There is no point in blaming astrology for not> > having combination indicating the same in horoscope in such cases -> > since astrology already took its bail by stating that the combination> > related to health it states will apply positively only to people who> > follow a healthy life style. But it is also good to remember that the> > combination indicating negative health results will realize even if the> > combinations are only partially present!> > Anyway coming to the discussion of diabetes, one combination> > indicating the same is given in Veera-simha-avalokana.> > Surampm m eanm> sanma> atnnaapm a drdm> h> o jejva rihi> erihi> eih> > hihejvadyhpa> eaaam > hpa> e> aam > paa > m aa > > hi> nhi> er> > > > ei> > avahejva> > a> r> eaaaa > hha pad> pad> > ra> t> > > > > > o> > Ve > rihi> > hi > > > rdildil> > r> > a ri>m> > h> hVe > ae > > al > a Veh hph> V a i lm erl ter's > h eri l bh h cte a ib, but wJupiter> ill b hwill be cb p byleJu> ber's e> su b e led b p byltos> byltone etc]> > en heiurinal stoinoblhisne ts]> >l bes onls abmbinatlrinthatts only s only abmbinatirinthat cate> > dcate> no Ases no As mene tned earlng influence of ence of wate c pong> > along> >e inhluen influence of sugar indicatingVenu or Venus is present then that> > chart can certainly indicate a possible candidate to have diabetes. Or> > better - he will certainly become a diabetes patient if the> > corresponding dasa comes. But as mentioned earlier - even> co> a> > coatioatio req not required for a modern man living in US to have> es due tn idue tn isasons already clarified.> > Love and regards,> > Sreen> diabetes > > ient_incient_indian_astrology, "S.comre_era <sre"> > <sreeram64@> wrote:> > >> > > Namaste mem> >> s > W> >> >it% ram > > <ram"> > <pulation sufrom di betebetes, eo the 7d% ohe 70% of> hW70%nulatioopulation suffe from riabetesetes....so so to tow which> > planedian p> is solely responsible.abetes te ..... do d t kbasic lifestyle with> > becomingbecoming mle...azy ant is ith addenth advent of all types of> > > REMOTES> > >> > > With regards,> > > Sreeram_Srinivas> > >> >>

September 21, 2009

Pranams,Mr.Sreenadhji,I understand from some old text that Sani,Surya,Sukra all together placed in 5th house / Sun in Lagna and Mars in 7th house / Sani in 10th house along with Mars or aspected by Mars may be a cause for "p~ra~mE~ha rOkam" .Treatment:For 18 types(list not enumerated) of "p~ra~mE~ha rOkam" if treatment commenced on Chaturti,Navami,Chaturdasi during Chara-lagnam on any wednessday is good.In vedic astrology 5th house denotes Pancreas,Spleen (stomach) Guru represents Pancreas glands,Rahu signifies Spleen; It suggests to me if all these are afflicted

may cause diabetes.Further in my opinion lagnam signifies blood.Therefore individuals with afflicted lagnam may become prone for Diabetes.Regards/Dhananjayan--- On Mon, 21/9/09, sreesog <sreesog wrote:sreesog <sreesog Re: Diabetes Date: Monday, 21 September, 2009, 12:24 PM