Guest guest Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Dear Lajmi ji, Well said sir, i know about heredity because i have family history of diabetes.My maternal family,my mother,my elder sister and my younger brother have the diabetes,till date i am safe. Astrological reason you have elaborated well with your rich experiences in a post here,i have gone through. I am agree with you that ascendant can indicate because ascendant strength is major contributor for any disease.Resistance power of body can be judge by ascendant. I am full agreement with you. Thanks & regards, M.S.Bohra , Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote: > > Dear Bohraji, > Also heredity plays a big role...if one of the parents is Diabetic the chances of acquiring Diabetes are 50 % and if both parents are Diabetic,the chances are 100% it is said... > Therefore,it may be worth while to investigate if the Ascendant can indicate any possibility of inheriting/acquiring Diabetes and obviously be of help to predict acquiring diabetes in advance and with confidence ...this is my suggestion to the Group.... > Comments/critique/reactions are welcome... > Yogesh Lajmi > GOOD LUCK > > > > > ________________________________ > msbohra62 <msbohra62 > T o : > Monday, September 21, 2009 3:54:38 AM > [ancient_indian_astroloy] e: Diabetes > > F rt > Fuxtensiox ansion about Venusrt > Fuendiabeansion knonow it relatetedi diabetes.We kd i insulin section systetem in the bo.I.If intake sugar convert properly in glucose or energy by insulin which is secretes by pancreas than there is no Diabetes. > > Now what is the Natural treatment for Diabetes ?Physical exercise,Walking daily 4-5 Km,control diet. > > Venus is the planet for Sex,what happens if some body doing Sex he burn the calories,heart beating fast,energy consume,Sugar converted in energy.So if a person Sexually active than less chances of Diabetes and Heart disease. > > So unmarried persons or Sexually inactive person have more chances of these disease..Venus have prominent role here.If Venus is weak,effected by malefic,in 6,8th house OR Venus is strongshut Dasha Perioefeffects the Planet an the mororodchances of Diabetes than the ost of thtime it happppens at later age.Evein n young age so many people are have inactive Sex life.In your friend circle if you have any diabetic person than asked about his Sex life. > > We know women are very less compares to men because they are more active in physical work.Born disease also have to study astrologically. > > Its all my personal observation, just try it and find any relation as above. > > Thanks, > > M.S.Bohra > > I > > t. > > : > > > > Dear Srinivi > M > > > > M > > > May be waterts likets like Me > > > > > > > are >r si si jor si>r ssi jor si>r s si jor si>r s bcer i jo>sraepl ar >esd nee rceeyseal > > erse e eaeeaeae > pyepyeapu l leepu epue p re s s e se> e > eso>> et y l > e y > ys ppe > e > t e se > > > p e > > ne etp > > ne n > rot r dtn > dho b bcrle d > b i da dra (i l. > dha >dadhda e > l. > dhdalvearl o > l. as dalvverl i e V d as V aasi ea v > sve > V pevavassve > V daat te pssii a V icit ui tsatctcihsicich s >pootc iheich s >pootc os >i toto hl > os >is itno f > r ssc es it aic r ti n til ifaic t il > tbhs uie ln bhs > ibl tie ongenenv uhibile tng unnvir virongeasoe.geudnvir n. din.ash .. TnTh.soend aiheash d diTheao pc aTheas pod Dis oo podaedaop > oe>ao p tlaskepDi> > oepno> r> las yr> > shalaos yya >pupey > phala w orl lhe > peo > > the >l lhe > ho l> > the >l > vle who l l > ve aho l o > ve aive to the l > > the l > l > l >lo > > aive to > > thve > the > >ohivele wh Othee > vo > ivv e r > > ierwyal > whohe > pwil Othee seevl set creaet rwe whvl s i > e'don'cveo e. > te'w n'ten't increasty wimilincry if we don'arlyeif we d > n'ten't ifcrease. Similarease. Simila > t foll e don tefoll w thd hein US, a day)tc now a > cert they diseatainly dcated by astrology will happen for suappeut also > > even if not indicated by horoscope the national diseases (as indicated > > by the general food habits and environment) may happen, and as a result > > longevity will decrease. There is no point in blaming astrology for not > > having combination indicating the same in horoscope in such cases - > > since astrology already took its bail by stating that the combination > > related to health it states will apply positively only to people who > > follow a healthy life style. But it is also good to remember that the > > combination indicating negative health results will realize even if the > > combinations are only partially present! > > Anyway coming to the discussion of diabetes, one combination > > indicating the same is given in Veera-simha- avalokana. > > Surampm m eanm > sanma > atnnaapm a drdm > h > o jejva rihi > erihi > eih > > hihejvadyhpa > eaaam > hpa > e > aam > paa > m aa > > hi > nhi > er > > ei > > avahejva > > a > r > eaaaa > hha pad > pad > > ra > t > > > > o > > Ve > rihi > > hi > > rdildil > > r > > a ri>m > > h > hVe > ae > > al > a Veh hph > V a i lm erl ter's > h eri l bh h cte a ib, but wJupiter > ill b hwill be cb p byleJu > ber's e> su b e led b p byltos > byltone etc] > > en heiurinal stoinoblhisne ts] > >l bes onls abmbinatlrinthatts only s only abmbinatirinthat cate > > dcate > no Ases no As mene tned earlng influence of ence of wate c pong > > along > >e inhluen influence of sugar indicatingVenu or Venus is present then that > > chart can certainly indicate a possible candidate to have diabetes. Or > > better - he will certainly become a diabetes patient if the > > corresponding dasa comes. But as mentioned earlier - even> co > a > > coatioatio req not required for a modern man living in US to have > es due tn idue tn isasons already clarified. > > Love and regards, > > Sreen> diabetes > > ient_incient_ indian_astrology @yah.com, " S.comre_era <sre " > > <sreeram64@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste mem > > > s > W > > > >it% ram > > <ram " > > <pulation sufrom di betebetes, eo the 7d% ohe 70% of > hW70%nulatioopulati on suffe from riabetesetes.. ...so so to tow which > > planedian p > is solely responsible. abetes te ...... do d t kbasic lifestyle with > > becomingbecoming mle...azy ant is ith addenth advent of all types of > > > REMOTES > > > > > > With regards, > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Dear Gopi ji, First of all i have not taken you as example but your chart and feed back have given some thoughts about the disease and possible causes. I am not saying here that sexual act can safe from diabetes, i am considering it as exercise.If some body doing exercise other way than he is also in a safe mode. Basically most of people are not doing regular any exercise so they are in health problem.Married person all are not so active in their sex life,who are active they are in good health wise.Again consider it as exercise not by sex only. Understand my post in totality. Consider sexual activity as exercise and burning calories in the form of Fats and Sugar Thanks & regards, M.S.Bohra --- In , " gopalakra " <gopi_b927b927 wrote: > > Dear Bohra ji, So unoarnmarried persons or Sexually inactive person have more chances of > these disease// > the above statement i disagree since majority of people are married and > active in sex not like me .I am in a minority.But still people are prone > to diabetes with their life styles,specially eating habits and indoor > activity.People these days are not exposed to nature in whom they were > born,live and die.They are not only living in closed doors but also > closed minds...... > Love and regards, > gopi. > > ant_int_indian_astrology , " msbohra62 " > <msbohra6wrote: > : > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji and Sreeram j > > > F rt> > xtensio atension about Venus regarding diabetes.We know it is related > to sugar burn and insulin secretion system in the body.If intake sugar > convert properly in glucose or energy by insulin which is secretes by > pancreas than there is no Diabetes. > > > > Now what is the Natural treatment for Diabetes ?Physical > exercise,Walking daily 4-5 Km,control diet. > > > > Venus is the planet for Sex,what happens if some body doing Sex he > burn the calories,heart beating fast,energy consume,Sugar converted in > energy.So if a person Sexually active than less chances of Diabetes and > Heart disease. > > > > So unmarried persons or Sexually inactive person have more chances of > these disease.Venus have prominent role here.If Venus is weak,effected > by malefic,in 6,8th house OR Venus is strong but Dashafferiod effects > the Planet than the more chances of Diabetes.We know most of the time it > happens at later age.Even in young age so many people are have inactive > Sex life.In your friend circle if you have any diabetic person than > asked about his Sex life. > > > > We know women are very less compares to men because they are more > active in physical work.Born disease also have to study astrologically. > > > > Its all my personal observation,just try it and find any relation as > above. > > > > Thanks, > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > I > > > > t. > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > Dear Srinivi > > M > > > > > > > M > > > > > > > > May be watts likenets like Mooe > > > > > > ig plahe planet Jut Jup are > > are > > > M > > n dir sign dicbdiiaut lsp> > >pls > > > Mesdrealrcesd > > dipro eed > > >so > e> s >> > lyseea rcesd >e> ercesd > > e > > s > >o > > s > > yseyso > > lyserttt eee >ppe > propeialse > > > ialse tt > > > > > nett > > > >> prtt eee > > > >> ppeppe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > renti > > bey dha > > bvdab(arl > hhate > dha rl we > > > >lldha > > > > > > ell.aticadha >vda wee > das > > >vdaas a.e o > > e > > >vdaa > >e Vave > > >vda as > ui poet > > V > > ui pootc passic h >> ui p > o oethth > > sa > >s >o> w > a andlt hh opoci > w >ie and > > c pocitsr saiic t se infa > > >a > it es thibiatiins> > > ittis in > > li th>tnbil tie in > > li thathe popon. Thdeans thodf the popon we >y> > tind diseaeason we > fi iabsea disea we itc > fi Diabsease nli a days. As > popupha adeea dayputtys syrollihaladeepisyroes yyasyrollivglivee > >roes onny t l l > > ve > > > alee who l l > > ve > > > > ale who l l > l l > > ve a ve to > > > > > the > > > > t e > ve to > > > > > the > > > > te > ive t > > > > > > the > > > > the >> l > > ve > > > he > >le who l w > >heo l se ivve > > i > > > > > > > > ierwyal > > whoh t > > pwil O increthevl set > > y > e rwdon'vl set > > e'wisecveo e. > >rease. eher't reaseaety wila i > t ifll e on'arlyeif we d >hein'ten't ifcrease. Similarease. Simila > > t foll e don tefoll w thd hein US, a day)tc now a > > cert they diseatainly dcated by astrology will happen for suappeut > also > > > even if not indicated by horoscope the national diseases (as > indicated > > > by the general food habits and environment) may happen, and as a > result > > > longevity will decrease. There is no point in blaming astrology for > not > > > having combination indicating the same in horoscope in such cases - > > > since astrology already took its bail by stating that the > combination > > > related to health it states will apply positively only to people who > > > follow a healthy life style. But it is also good to remember that > the > > > combination indicating negative health results will realize even if > the > > > combinations are only partially present! > > > Anyway coming to the discussion of diabetes, one combination > > > indicating the same is given in Veera-simha-avalokana. > > > Surampm m eanm > > sanma > > atnnaapm a drdm > > h > > o jejva rihi > > erihi > > eih > > > > hihejvadyhpa > > eaaam > > hpa > > e > > aam > > paa > > m aa > > > > hi > > nhi > > er > > > > > > > > ei > > > > avahejva > > > > a > > r > > eaaaa > > hha pad > > pad > > > > ra > > t > > > > > > > > > > > > o > > > > Ve > > rihi > > > > hi > > > > > > rdildil > > > > r > > > > a ri>m > > > > h > > hVe > > ae > > > > al > > a Veh hph > > V a i lm erl ter's > > h eri l bh h cte a ib, but wJupiter > > ill b hwill be cb p byleJu > > ber's e> su b e led b p byltos > > byltone etc] > > > > en heiurinal stoinoblhisne ts] > > >l bes onls abmbinatlrinthatts only s only abmbinatirinthat cate > > > dcate > > no Ases no As mene tned earlng influence of ence of wate c pong > > > along > > >e inhluen influence of sugar indicatingVenu or Venus is present then > that > > > chart can certainly indicate a possible candidate to have diabetes. > Or > > > better - he will certainly become a diabetes patient if the > > > corresponding dasa comes. But as mentioned earlier - even> co > > a > > > coatioatio req not required for a modern man living in US to have > > es due tn idue tn isasons already clarified. > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreen> diabetes > > > > ient_incient_indian_astrology@, " S.comre_era <sre " > > > <sreeram64@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste mem > > > > > s > W > > > > > >it% ram > > > <ram " > > > <pulation sufrom di betebetes, eo the 7d% ohe 70% of > > hW70%nulatioopulation suffe from riabetesetes....so so to tow which > > > planedian p > > is solely responsible.abetes te ..... do d t kbasic lifestyle with > > > becomingbecoming mle...azy ant is ith addenth advent of all types > of > > > > REMOTES > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Dear Vijay ji, Very beautiful thoughts and well converted asrologically, anything in unbalance are causes of accident. Basically Diabetes is metabolic disorder of body.Insulin convert the sugar in glucose which store in liver when ever body require the energy it releases in the body,that circulate through blood. Liver is not producing insulin. Beta cells of pancreas is producing the insulin if it effected than less production,it is one cause.Second cause is insulin have receptor system if this receptor system effected than sugar can't be converted fully in the glucose,so excess sugar remain in the blood. First type of cause is insulin dependent, sufferer have to take insulin injection second can be manage by changes of life style,exercise,walking,less meals more times in a day,etc. You have conformed my thoughts that Venus is main culprit for diabetes others are helper to cause it. Thanks & regards, M.S.Bohra e: > > Dear Members, > > I have heard from saints thal " <g yalvs krma is sole responsible for > onset of any diseases. > > The karak for MISHRI (ssolall sugar granule) is Venus and the karak for > Sweetnes (abbstract (nat) is Jupiter. > > s n nype of k karma ls to to fall f 'sscted o ordineyed (mars)) thhiss of k k t Btto B Bt n be bbo bo bo both\anU'RUaUat a a e e Btnn i > is s g > is ghehese o\aAC aACANCCC >eaCA> a an t t....r e n > is g g >s hehes >> > ANCCt > > ANCCt ANCCt aANCnc >ainstan_a_ahology (AT) yaho (DOT) . olelijayay..... > wroee--- I oyalvj@> wrote--- I > > > >> Thrre i twThrreayeswo@yype ofabe: >ayes : > > > > 1) Diabetemuan wro>Ratha diommuan auton ult diseathat rs in ultesrufeuaceueg feutypieacreua 1ee mmtyn 1ee pea ha d/neatan 1ee pn ulaiii/ibtetsi hli s_mllieofeuaces Itytypceacrfeua1e p 1pyt1ec p s t e 1ee p 1roduciap i/ibbe/simllsus_mliaii > > > n sus_ml , In > n tive> >In) ) 1 1 live iss type 2 thtt is charnsulinzed bhat is charnsulinzed by high blo> gluccose > > > glucoo > n n theterized n the context tgluce> /wiki/gor/wiik/d >ucluce> a /Igce> ve extgluce> and relative ext of i ency>ksistanesisw > glece// nnwikitan a w g/wiuce//ennwiy esiive.org/wiki/Insubody esistance tt:i/e nwi ttp:// wiki/ipedia.orwi ttp://eorg/kipedia.orody ei/Cell_%28biolesrop tp:/ri is r//en.w krglin is pri islki> >ia.tp://n is present. > > http://en.wi_mpedia.orgype_2 > >lries_mellitu inype_2 > > > > In type 2 , liver is healthy & insulin is produced but cannot store ir some res stance us dev or some resistance is developed in blood. > > > > ------ ------------- --ally :ogigich hous > > 1) iver. house is karak for liver. > > 2) Jupitr liver. > >--r lenus us isuranuinsura> 4) uako. karkr n insura> 4 orao. karar > ss kaban n b blooloo a> 4 l ss kac > oo b faypa> 4 eeiytblooled > > icfpthceeeeiytblo of >ce fkcf f thoth >oo yp >: eeiykcf th horm f ofl yp >:cietedtef > >or> cfic ffticiytedl Jtuf > > cf thctform fllk of , aternof > m >ivy s ( nm n bd m> > Jt > mm mun bd me> > d mrhyn an m >ivy otmm ithn bd m >uen bd mt >> n bd me Yo > Ypinwan s n e uot utYp titha md latand lood oooon oodod oehe > td re ehen ntis nous in n is nouse of this type. > > > > des. > > > > d o8d suoue seouldshould be also seen as thblepro m i h m i hnic in > > nare anure and e will bednga en ia en icating this m. > > > n > > n > >--------- > - > > will be that i thtin thtirigck. > > > > > > > > natyou, ardsRega > Vija > Vijathatel > > Jathe right > > > > > > > > > tyou > > > > > > > --ient_i_inent_i_indiaastrololo tps.s.coups.s.o_tellerk_telle > > astro > asrkeraellerkerala@ wroto traa > > > ..s.an l " ayan llerk llerkralae eks > > >obahoogtoups an gtoups and cstrong > > > > > > but i t In ance e > > Thanks > > > XXXXXXXXis st cstrong > > > > > obset i this statemnt o for ur > vatioifiduals with a o fo > > obsh ur thiies withne for >ed > Dia urioifiduals wXXXXXfflicte Diabetes.X > ClassiXXfor >ed lagn > M > CXXXXXXXXXX XX> > > d lages so i> ClassiXXsXXoX on l>naieve > means eerthi ac > flicted > Moorhty >ans( fo>e fo ey l >na such a body a llXXetc ) an sakch a body willi un and > > prkti i > > to any k and f diseases >> > to > > afflof diseagnay ) andiauc> affli any case and further afflictions > on and fd otheafflistionsll b ny kiplied in cases > > >also afflicted > > > for exmple afflicted lagna for e furt affl2thed lagnaay giv rise to > > > Loses /heavy expentiture /even Pada roga or some deo/e>en Padaeet > etc > > > even it can affect eye sig even . > > > > ct eyven afflicted lagna persons r pronePada et anger suddenly and hence et > e they can en ite unpopular too aig later yrs > >h BP or such diseases > > too ersons r pr > it get ngergiv only and henroga or madhu meha > > > > > > it has to b with other indications too > > > > > > if so > > e can post charts with Baby diabetic persons we may able > to > > > get more clear ideas > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > ancient_indian_astrologticahoogrns we mmy abanan to > > > ma > > > abhanaya@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Pranams, > > > > > > > > Mr.Sreenadhji, > > > > > > > > I understand from some old text that Sani,Surya,Sukra all together > > > placed in 5t > > s > > ur.Sr Lagna and Mars in 7th house / Sani in > > 10th > > > house alonani,Surya,S or aspected byer > > >y be a cause for > > " p~ra~in Lagn > > rOkam " . > > > > / Sani inFor 18 types(list not enumerated) of " p~ra~mE~ha rOkam " > may > > > ause ment commenced on Chaturti,Nav .i,Chaturdasi durnt:Fo > > Chara-lat am on anyratenessday is ~mod. > > > > In vedic astrology 5tcommencedenotes Pancreas,Spleen (stomach) durirg > > > repr-lagns Pancreas glands,Rahu signifies Spleen; It suggests to me > hous d > aes Paese are afflicted may cau Guru > > s. > resents > > > Further in my opinion lagnam signifies blood.Therefore individuals > > > with afflicted lagnam may become prone for Diabetes. > > > > > > > > Regards/Dhananjayan > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 21/9/09, sreesog sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > > > sreesog sreesog@ > > > > Re: Diabetes > > > > > > > > Monday, 21 September, 2009, 12:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satpal ji, > > > > > > > > //[ 1 ] > > > > mercury in signs of Jupiter { dhanu & meen} and under the > > aspect > > > of > > > > Sun [ saravali ch 26 shlok 55 ]// > > > > > > > >  Please tell us how Sun can aspect Mercury! For this to > > > happen Mercury > > > > should be in 7th house from Sun, which is an astronomical > > > impossibility! > > > > Most possibly that misinterpretation sprung from misquoting > ChandraH > > > (Moon) as > > > > ChandrajaH (Mercury) - the meaning going upside down! As I have > > quoted > > > earlier, > > > > what the quote points to here is that - Moon (and not mercury) > > should > > > be in the > > > > sign of Jupiter and Sun should aspect it. Moon a watery planet in > > > Jupiter a big > > > > planet's sign indicate a heavy body that can be apt seat of > diseases > > > such as > > > > diabetics and Sun the significator of sugar cane's aspect confirms > > the > > > > possibility of having diabetic. It is more useful to approach > quotes > > > in > > > > realistic and logical manner - based on understanding of basic > > > significance > > > > than to blindly believe in the quotes or their many times > erroneous > > > interpretations > > > > given in texts. > > > > > > > > //> In the astrology classics the disease has been classified as > > > > " vasti rog " or " mootrashaya rog " // > > > > > > > >   This is wrong. Vasti roga is a word that points to > > diseases > > > > related to lower abdomen or naval/hip portion. Numerous diseases > > could > > > happen > > > > related to this portion of the body and it is totally erroneous to > > > assume that > > > > all diseases that happen related to this body portion is diabetes > > > only! > > > > " Mootrasaya roga " means diseases related to Urinary bladder or > > > > urinary organs and NOT diabetes. The word used for Diabetes is > > > > " Prameha " - only the quotes and combinations that refers to the > > > > disease " Prameha " indicate Diabetes; excess sugar. Otherwise > > > > following erroneous guidance we will reach erroneous conclusions. > > > >  Please recheck the combinations you provided based on this > > base > > > criteria and understanding. > > > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > " khurana_satpal " > > > <khurana_satpal@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > I am quoting a short note on Diabetes I found in the file > section > > of > > > one > > > > > of the groups. > > > > > > > > > > Diabetes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the astrology classics the disease has been classified as > > > > > ‘vasti rog’ or ‘mootrashaya > > > rog’ and has > > > > > been referred to as ‘madhumeh’ or > > > ‘prameh’. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have found the following references for this disease in the > > > classics. > > > > > The following placements can cause diabetes. I have added to the > > > list > > > > > other combinations which I have found, during my astrology > > practice, > > > to > > > > > be causing diabetes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] mercury in signs of Jupiter { dhanu & meen} and under the > > > aspect > > > > > of Sun [ saravali ch 26 shlok 55 ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] Saturn + Sun + Venus in the 5th house [ jatak tattwa viv > 6 > > > sutra > > > > > 107] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 3 ] Sun in the ascendant and Mars in the 7th [ jatak tattwa > viv > > 6 > > > > > sutra 108] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the 10th either conjunct or aspected by Saturn [ > > > jatak > > > > > tattwa viv 6 sutra 109] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 5 ] Mars in the 6th and the 6th lord with paap grah [ > > > Daivagyabharan > > > > > pra 14 shlok 29] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 6 ] 8th house under the aspect of Mars [ Vrihadyavan jatak pra > > 96 > > > > > shlok 3] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My experience : Combinations which I found could also cause > > diabetes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 7 ] Sun with either venus or Saturn in the 5th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 8 ] Mars + Saturn in the 10th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 9 ] 6th house and/or the 6th lord, 4th house and/or 4th lord > > under > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspect of paapi grah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 10 ] Influence of paapi grah on jal rasi in the 5th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 11] association of Virgo with the 4th or the 6th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 12 ] manda { malefic } Jupiter in the 6th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 13 ] Moon + Ketu in the 5th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 14 ] Ketu in the 4th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pandit Bhooshan Priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Email addresses available on > > > > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and > > > @rocketmail. > > > > Hurry before someone else does! > > > > http://mail.promotions./newdomains/aa/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Dear Dhananjayan ji, That was informative. Thanks.Love and regards,Sreenadh-Dhananjayan Brahma09/21/09 09:29 pm Subject: Re: Re: Diabetes Pranams, Mr.Sreenadhji, I understand from some old text that Sani,Surya,Sukra all together placed in 5th house / Sun in Lagna and Mars in 7th house / Sani in 10th house along with Mars or aspected by Mars may be a cause for "p~ra~mE~ha rOkam" . Treatment:For 18 types(list not enumerated) of "p~ra~mE~ha rOkam" if treatment commenced on Chaturti,Navami,Chaturdasi during Chara-lagnam on any wednessday is good. In vedic astrology 5th house denotes Pancreas,Spleen (stomach) Guru represents Pancreas glands,Rahu signifies Spleen; It suggests to me if all these are afflicted may cause diabetes. Further in my opinion lagnam signifies blood.Therefore individuals with afflicted lagnam may become prone for Diabetes. Regards/Dhananjayan --- On Mon, 21/9/09, sreesog <sreesog wrote: sreesog <sreesog Re: Diabetes Monday, 21 September, 2009, 12:24 PM Dear Satpal ji, //[ 1 ] mercury in signs of Jupiter { dhanu & meen} and under the aspect of Sun [ saravali ch 26 shlok 55 ]// Please tell us how Sun can aspect Mercury! For this to happen Mercury should be in 7th house from Sun, which is an astronomical impossibility! Most possibly that misinterpretation sprung from misquoting ChandraH (Moon) as ChandrajaH (Mercury) - the meaning going upside down! As I have quoted earlier, what the quote points to here is that - Moon (and not mercury) should be in the sign of Jupiter and Sun should aspect it. Moon a watery planet in Jupiter a big planet's sign indicate a heavy body that can be apt seat of diseases such as diabetics and Sun the significator of sugar cane's aspect confirms the possibility of having diabetic. It is more useful to approach quotes in realistic and logical manner - based on understanding of basic significance than to blindly believe in the quotes or their many times erroneous interpretations given in texts. //> In the astrology classics the disease has been classified as "vasti rog" or "mootrashaya rog"// This is wrong. Vasti roga is a word that points to diseases related to lower abdomen or naval/hip portion. Numerous diseases could happen related to this portion of the body and it is totally erroneous to assume that all diseases that happen related to this body portion is diabetes only! "Mootrasaya roga" means diseases related to Urinary bladder or urinary organs and NOT diabetes. The word used for Diabetes is "Prameha" - only the quotes and combinations that refers to the disease "Prameha" indicate Diabetes; excess sugar. Otherwise following erroneous guidance we will reach erroneous conclusions. Please recheck the combinations you provided based on this base criteria and understanding. Love and regards, Sreenadh ancient_indian_ astrology, "khurana_satpal" <khurana_satpal@ ...> wrote: > > > Sirs, > > I am quoting a short note on Diabetes I found in the file section of one > of the groups. > > Diabetes > > > > In the astrology classics the disease has been classified as > ‘vasti rog’ or ‘mootrashaya rog’ and has > been referred to as ‘madhumeh’ or ‘prameh’. > > > > I have found the following references for this disease in the classics. > The following placements can cause diabetes. I have added to the list > other combinations which I have found, during my astrology practice, to > be causing diabetes. > > > > [ 1 ] mercury in signs of Jupiter { dhanu & meen} and under the aspect > of Sun [ saravali ch 26 shlok 55 ] > > > > [ 2 ] Saturn + Sun + Venus in the 5th house [ jatak tattwa viv 6 sutra > 107] > > > > [ 3 ] Sun in the ascendant and Mars in the 7th [ jatak tattwa viv 6 > sutra 108] > > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the 10th either conjunct or aspected by Saturn [ jatak > tattwa viv 6 sutra 109] > > > > [ 5 ] Mars in the 6th and the 6th lord with paap grah [ Daivagyabharan > pra 14 shlok 29] > > > > [ 6 ] 8th house under the aspect of Mars [ Vrihadyavan jatak pra 96 > shlok 3] > > > > My experience : Combinations which I found could also cause diabetes > > > > [ 7 ] Sun with either venus or Saturn in the 5th house > > > > [ 8 ] Mars + Saturn in the 10th house > > > > [ 9 ] 6th house and/or the 6th lord, 4th house and/or 4th lord under the > > > > aspect of paapi grah > > > > [ 10 ] Influence of paapi grah on jal rasi in the 5th house > > > > [ 11] association of Virgo with the 4th or the 6th house > > > > [ 12 ] manda { malefic } Jupiter in the 6th house > > > > [ 13 ] Moon + Ketu in the 5th house > > > > [ 14 ] Ketu in the 4th house > > > > Pandit Bhooshan Priya Get your preferred Email name! Now you can @ymail.com and @rocketmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Dear Sunil ji, I agree with you. Further, as per Brihat Jataka, " Kunjendu hetur pratimasam artavam " [The The menstruation for women happens due to Mars and Moon] Why Mars and Moon - because Mars signify blood and Moon signify water. * Thus among planets it is evident that Mars signify Blood. * Among houses all of them signify blood since the whole horoscope is the body of the native. But it is also true that it is maily the Lagna that signify the body (Moorti) of native among the houses. Love and regards, Sreenadh - astro_tellerkerala 09/21/09 10:19 pm Re: Diabetes Dear Dhananjayan ji Thanks for ur observations and commnts but i hav a strong diffrce with ur this statemnt XXXXXXXXXFurther in my opinion lagnam signifies blood.Therefore individuals with afflicted lagnam may become prone for Diabetes.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Classic s says Lagna as Moorhti ,keerthi etc so it means afflicted lagna ( even PKY yoga s ) givs afflicted Moorhty ( body ) and such a body will loose prana sakti in the Long run and prone to any kind of diseases afflicted Lagna is a Liability in any case and further afflictions on other houses will b multiplied in case lagna also afflicted for exmple afflicted lagna and afflicted 12th house may giv rise to Loses /heavy expentiture /even Pada roga or some deormity in feet etc even it can affect eye sight too . even afflicted lagna persons r prone to get anger suddenly and hence they can become unpopular too and later yrs High BP or such diseases too it need not giv only prameha roga or madhu meha it has to b with other indications too if some one can post charts with Baby diabetic persons we may able to get more clear ideas rgrds sunil nair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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