Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Dear Anup, As per what Krushanji has taught, Sun's transit is most important as it is the one that triggers events. By now you might have noticed that in many charts as well. Other transits are also important, particularly of slow moving planets so that we are taking for Sa and Ju. Other transits are used in Daily points as well, so from that we can get the fluctuations on a day to day basis. Now as u say, moon moves fast and so that might make the daily points change. So we are using moon's transit that way. Yes, we also say about the 13 days toleration on the event. Now if u ask me why 13 days, for that I do not have any answer. So each thing is used, Anup, in KAS but in our way as per lessons. Do not hesitate to ask questions Anup, you are working hard so u can grasp more things. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > I am hesitantly asking you this question. > Why we dont take Moon transit instead of Sun to find timing of events? > Cant we norrow down the event more minutely becuz Moon crosses a sign in 2.25days > where as Sun takes one month. > Is there any special reason for taking Sun transit for an event ? > > I have read this in a book also. > > Regards > Anup > > > > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels > in 45,000 destinations on Travel to find your fit. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Dear Ash, Thankyou very much for sparing your time and prompt reply.Just a thought was in my mind while reading a book and i want to remove my doubt.becuz i have applied this thing to any of the chart as i am strictly following KAS only. I cld understand slightly about 13 days tolerance now and why a planet transit work on a particular degree:) .... I kept thinking this and now smthing it working so great. I am applying this to several charts now.Many thanxs to Guru krushna ji and you, Ash. Archieves are treasure for me and these all are very powerful lessons. Plz keep guiding me. Thanks and Regards Anup ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Anup, As per what Krushanji has taught, Sun's transit is most important as it is the one that triggers events. By now you might have noticed that in many charts as well. Other transits are also important, particularly of slow moving planets so that we are taking for Sa and Ju. Other transits are used in Daily points as well, so from that we can get the fluctuations on a day to day basis. Now as u say, moon moves fast and so that might make the daily points change. So we are using moon's transit that way. Yes, we also say about the 13 days toleration on the event. Now if u ask me why 13 days, for that I do not have any answer. So each thing is used, Anup, in KAS but in our way as per lessons. Do not hesitate to ask questions Anup, you are working hard so u can grasp more things. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > I am hesitantly asking you this question. > Why we dont take Moon transit instead of Sun to find timing of events? > Cant we norrow down the event more minutely becuz Moon crosses a sign in 2.25days > where as Sun takes one month. > Is there any special reason for taking Sun transit for an event ? > > I have read this in a book also. > > Regards > Anup > > > > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels > in 45,000 destinations on Travel to find your fit. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 dear friends during the previous discussion over diabetic causing plaents, some learnt memebrs opined that there is no conclusive cohesive concrete indicator that lets the astrologer tell with surety regarding the ailment that is caused by the native in a particular organ because of a planet. albeit astro scriptures, both ancient and modern, directly indicate the limbs represented by the planets and indirectly the diseases or physical sufferings the native may get under their dasa phalam etc., there is one particular aspect that i found conclusive enough as, besides astro scriptures, this indication is clearly pronounced at hundreds of instances in various puranas and other ancient vedic texts. sun and moon represent both eyes and it is even written that sun represents the right eye and the moon represents the left eye. hence any person, be it a blind person or having some eye diseases or long ailments in eyes must be having his or her sun and/or moon afflicted in his chart. albeit, on other diseases and diagnosis, i am not able to pinpoint with surety, the eye related problems correlated to sun and moon can be indicated with surety. at least, this is my understanding of sun and moon alone representative of eyes. in similar discussions earlier in other groups, the threads diluted with members focusing more on the 2nd and 12th houses, 2nd lord and 12th lord and some even lagna and lagna lord for knowing the eyes and reducing the importance of sun and moon. some members even found fault with venus as he represents the white ball of the eye and the discussions went without any use, as almost all planets were brought into the picture with more overriding indications from various houses like 6th and their lords. learnt members permitting, we may study few blind charts of blind people to know the affliction of ONLY sun and moon, as numerous scriptures attributed in numerous instances, only sun and moon as representative of two eyes. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear Pundit Arjun ji Namaskar Thanks for mail and opening a new tread . I would like to add main important point ,that is netra karaka while sun and moon represents the brightness in eyes /right and left eyes ) ,the venus is representing netra karakatwa (karaka for eyes ) so while we getting charts we can see this also for making it sure , regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote:>> dear friends> > during the previous discussion over diabetic causing plaents, some > learnt memebrs opined that there is no conclusive cohesive concrete > indicator that lets the astrologer tell with surety regarding the > ailment that is caused by the native in a particular organ because of a > planet.> > albeit astro scriptures, both ancient and modern, directly indicate the > limbs represented by the planets and indirectly the diseases or > physical sufferings the native may get under their dasa phalam etc., > there is one particular aspect that i found conclusive enough as, > besides astro scriptures, this indication is clearly pronounced at > hundreds of instances in various puranas and other ancient vedic texts.> > sun and moon represent both eyes and it is even written that sun > represents the right eye and the moon represents the left eye. hence > any person, be it a blind person or having some eye diseases or long > ailments in eyes must be having his or her sun and/or moon afflicted in > his chart.> > albeit, on other diseases and diagnosis, i am not able to pinpoint with > surety, the eye related problems correlated to sun and moon can be > indicated with surety. at least, this is my understanding of sun and > moon alone representative of eyes.> > in similar discussions earlier in other groups, the threads diluted > with members focusing more on the 2nd and 12th houses, 2nd lord and > 12th lord and some even lagna and lagna lord for knowing the eyes and > reducing the importance of sun and moon. some members even found fault > with venus as he represents the white ball of the eye and the > discussions went without any use, as almost all planets were brought > into the picture with more overriding indications from various houses > like 6th and their lords.> > learnt members permitting, we may study few blind charts of blind > people to know the affliction of ONLY sun and moon, as numerous > scriptures attributed in numerous instances, only sun and moon as > representative of two eyes.> > with best wishes and blessings> pandit arjun> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Dear Pandit ji and group,I agree that the thread on diabetes was left hanging without any conclusive derivation. To assess in simple terms, without getting into the technicalities, Jupiter and venus jointly rule over pancreas, which is the main organ responsible for causing diabetes. Upper part of pancreas comes under Jupiter whereas the lower part and appendix fall under venus. For diabetes, generally both have to be afflicted to cause the disease. Diabetes has two components. One is about improper metabolism of glucose and the second part is deficiency of hormone insulin. Glucose metabolism is also related to liver. Liver and pancreas also function closely as a team for metabolism of glucose. Liver and the upper part of pancreas are ruled by Jupiter and 5H.Venus controls the endocrine secretions or hormones as well as the lower part of pancreas. This area comes under 6H. So in most of the cases, diabetes primarily comes under Jupiter, Venus and 5th and/or 6th house. When diabetes advances, it might affect kidneys and that is where we get the role of Libra. Then the disorder is also renal and more complex. Only for diabetes, we may not have libra afflicted. Many a times, people live with diabetes without causing any damage to the kidneys.RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Dear Neelmji, You have describe well for the causes of Diabetes Mallaitis.I would like to add some more points,Diabetes is causes due to less production of Insulin.Insulin burn the sugar which we intake in different forms.Mast cell of Pancreas is producing Insulin.If production of Insulin is improper than extra sugar running in blood which goes to every cell and start to damage slowly every organs of our body. Metabolism is process for burning fats,protein,sugar;etc.As you know very well Venus is represent " Fir " ,fir is essential for burning so we can say if Venus is effected by any malefic or occupied in 6th,8th and 12th house is maine responsible for the Diabetes.Jupiter repersent " Fat " a fatty person unable to consume or burn all intake so some way it will cause slow metabolism.We directly can't say the culprit is effected Jupiter for Diabetes. 5th house is denoted our Pancreas,its also can included as you have stated. Thanks, M.S.bohra , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Pandit ji and group, > > > I agree that the thread on diabetes was left hanging without any conclusive > derivation. > > To assess in simple terms, without getting into the technicalities, Jupiter > and venus jointly rule over pancreas, which is the main organ responsible > for causing diabetes. Upper part of pancreas comes under Jupiter whereas the > lower part and appendix fall under venus. For diabetes, generally both have > to be afflicted to cause the disease. > > Diabetes has two components. One is about improper metabolism of glucose and > the second part is deficiency of hormone insulin. Glucose metabolism is also > related to liver. Liver and pancreas also function closely as a team for > metabolism of glucose. Liver and the upper part of pancreas are ruled by > Jupiter and 5H.Venus controls the endocrine secretions or hormones as well > as the lower part of pancreas. This area comes under 6H. > > So in most of the cases, diabetes primarily comes under Jupiter, Venus and > 5th and/or 6th house. > > When diabetes advances, it might affect kidneys and that is where we get the > role of Libra. Then the disorder is also renal and more complex. *Only for > diabetes, we may not have libra afflicted. *Many a times, people live with > diabetes without causing any damage to the kidneys. > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Dear Neelamji, I am giving the details of my relative who is an insulin dependent diabetic. He is taking insulin for the last 7yrs. Except for a mutual aspect of jupiter and venus, there is no afflliction. He is thula lagna. venus and merc are in lagna aspecting jupiter which is in mesha. His parents are not diabetic. As for as pancreas is concerned,only a tiny portion of pancreas which is called the head has Islet of Langherhans which produces Insulin when stimulated for metabolic activity of GLucose. The rest of the pancreas secretes pancreatic juices ie lipase, amylase and protease for digestion of fate, carbohydrates and protein. the native's DOB : Oct 11th 1952 time: 7.05 am place : coimbatore Happy diwali greetings, k.gopu --- On Sat, 10/25/08, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: sun and moon Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 11:07 AM Dear Pandit ji and group, I agree that the thread on diabetes was left hanging without any conclusive derivation. To assess in simple terms, without getting into the technicalities, Jupiter and venus jointly rule over pancreas, which is the main organ responsible for causing diabetes. Upper part of pancreas comes under Jupiter whereas the lower part and appendix fall under venus. For diabetes, generally both have to be afflicted to cause the disease. Diabetes has two components. One is about improper metabolism of glucose and the second part is deficiency of hormone insulin. Glucose metabolism is also related to liver. Liver and pancreas also function closely as a team for metabolism of glucose. Liver and the upper part of pancreas are ruled by Jupiter and 5H.Venus controls the endocrine secretions or hormones as well as the lower part of pancreas. This area comes under 6H. So in most of the cases, diabetes primarily comes under Jupiter, Venus and 5th and/or 6th house. When diabetes advances, it might affect kidneys and that is where we get the role of Libra. Then the disorder is also renal and more complex. Only for diabetes, we may not have libra afflicted. Many a times, people live with diabetes without causing any damage to the kidneys. RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Dear Group, I am reposting the message by Bohra ji which the group has missed because of some problems. These comments are pertinent to this thread.//Dear Neelmji, You have describe well for the causes of Diabetes Mallaitis.I would like to add some more points,Diabetes is causes due to less production of Insulin.Insulin burn the sugar which we intake in different forms.Mast cell of Pancreas is producing Insulin.If production of Insulin is improper than extra sugar running in blood which goes to every cell and start to damage slowly every organs of our body. Metabolism is process for burning fats,protein,sugar;etc.As you know very well Venus is represent " Fir " ,fir is essential for burning so we can say if Venus is effected by any malefic or occupied in 6th,8th and 12th house is maine responsible for the Diabetes.Jupiter repersent " Fat " a fatty person unable to consume or burn all intake so some way it will cause slow metabolism.We directly can't say the culprit is effected Jupiter for Diabetes. 5th house is denoted our Pancreas,its also can included as you have stated. Thanks, M.S.bohra// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Dear Bohra ji,I was just trying to sum up the karak and houses for pancreas without getting into medical details. Otherwise there is no end to it and we are not medical doctors. In postmortem we are able to locate and trace the diseases to the cellular level, but fail miserably in predictions and real time cases. If we get into minute details of occurrence and symptoms, then we will see a role of each and every planet in giving any disease. Also, there are so many causes for a particular disease, some we know and some we dismiss as idiopathic, diabetes being no exception. So we should stick to area under affliction. Even then, we may not be able to tell from the chart whether it is a pancreatic cancer or diabetes! It may not always be a deficiency of insulin, it could be a malfunctioning where insulin is not recognized by the enzymes that process glucose. The beta cells produce insulin and alpha cells produce glucagon, and these two hormones together maintain the level of glucose in the blood. And finally, the regulation is under the control of hypothalamus and then pituitary, the master gland. I think we should stick to our organ-based inferences, and then, if confirmed by the native, we could get into the details by analyzing the interaction of other planets For diabetes I feel both Jupiter and Venus are responsible, Jupiter because it rules a part of pancreas and the cells of pancreas (called Islets of Langerhans) which secrete these hormones. Also liver is always intricately linked with diabetic condition as liver produces glucose and insulin regulates the ability of the liver to produce glucose. When pancreas is not producing enough insulin, or insulin's signal is not recognised, liver continues the production and excess glucose builds up in the blood stream. This is how Jupiter becomes the main disease giver also as Jupiter rules liver. Venus is responsible as the endocrine secretions are ruled by Venus. Venus alone may not be able to pin point towards diabetes. This is what I feel. There are many variations and manifestations of the disease. I stand corrected if I am wrong in my understanding. I am not a medical doctor, but having been a researcher in this science, I am well aware of the anatomy and physiology of human body.RegardsNeelam 2008/10/25 neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Dear Group, I am reposting the message by Bohra ji which the group has missed because of some problems. These comments are pertinent to this thread.//Dear Neelmji, You have describe well for the causes of Diabetes Mallaitis.I would like to add some more points,Diabetes is causes due to less production of Insulin.Insulin burn the sugar which we intake in different forms.Mast cell of Pancreas is producing Insulin.If production of Insulin is improper than extra sugar running in blood which goes to every cell and start to damage slowly every organs of our body. Metabolism is process for burning fats,protein,sugar;etc.As you know very well Venus is represent " Fir " ,fir is essential for burning so we can say if Venus is effected by any malefic or occupied in 6th,8th and 12th house is maine responsible for the Diabetes.Jupiter repersent " Fat " a fatty person unable to consume or burn all intake so some way it will cause slow metabolism.We directly can't say the culprit is effected Jupiter for Diabetes. 5th house is denoted our Pancreas,its also can included as you have stated. Thanks, M.S.bohra// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Dear Gopu ji, Disease conditions will prevail and surface when basic proneness to diseases is established in the natal chart. A weak and afflicted lagna/LL, moon and sun will make a native more susceptible to diseases and he will succumb to the pressure, even with less afflicted planets in their dasha and antars. A strong lagna can withstand severe afflictions also. In this case, the disease is indicated from all angles. I am just giving the important points briefly. Native has a weak constitution and is prone to diseases. All 3 lagnas are aspected by their 6th lords. From lagna, Jupiter is a retrograde functional malefic in the nakshtra of LL/8L venus and thus causing severe affliction. Venus is also the 8L in lagna in Jupiter's nakshatra with 12L mer. The nakshatra exchange is not conducive for health as it carries significations of 3H/6H/8H with lagna.Rahu-ketu axis in kendra to two benefics and in exact degree as 6L Jupiter.Jupiter becomes a greater evil by dispositing mars, who also aspects 6H/piscesSun, the arogyakarak and natural 5L is afflicted with Saturn in 12H and aspects 6H, establishing his link with disease and hospitals.5L Saturn, the YK is totally combust in 12H and Virgo is the afflicted 12H In Navamsha, both leo and sun is badly afflicted by Rahu/ketu, Saturn and mars.The native passes through the dasha of ketu, the disease karak who has 2L/7L mars in 6H from aspecting ketu, moon, cancer, 6H/pisces. The disease will start brewing in this dasha.With the onset of venus dasha, the dasha of LL, the disease showed up, which has to do mainly with Jupiter and venus. We can go into more details, but this should suffice to indicate the disease. There is still a long way to go for venus MD, and hence this native should be cautioned to take his treatment very seriously. His disease can progress fast to kidneys. Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Sirs, Here are a few yoga for diabetes collected from the net: In the astrology classics the disease has been classified as ‘vasti rog’ or ‘mootrashaya rog’ and has been referred to as ‘madhumeh’ or ‘prameh’. [ 1 ] mercury in signs of Jupiter { dhanu & meen} and under the aspect of Sun [ saravali ch 26 shlok 55 ] [ 2 ] Saturn + Sun + Venus in the 5th house [ jatak tattwa viv 6 sutra 107] [ 3 ] Sun in the ascendant and Mars in the 7th [ jatak tattwa viv 6 sutra 108] [ 4 ] Mars in the 10th either conjunct or aspected by Saturn [ jatak tattwa viv 6 sutra 109] [ 5 ] Mars in the 6th and the 6th lord with paap grah [ Daivagyabharan pra 14 shlok 29] [ 6 ] 8th house under the aspect of Mars [ Vrihadyavan jatak pra 96 shlok 3] Some other yog collected from the Lal Kitab and other sources [ 7 ] Sun with either venus or Saturn in the 5th house [ 8 ] Mars + Saturn in the 10th house [ 9 ] 6th house and/or the 6th lord, 4th house and/or 4th lord under the aspect of rahu or ketu. [ 10 ] Influence of rahu or ketu or saturn on jal rasi in the 5th house [ 11] association of Virgo with the 4th or the 6th house [ 12 ] manda { malefic } Jupiter in the 6th house [ 13 ] Moon + Ketu in the 5th house [ 14 ] Ketu in the 4th house Sincerely, S P Khurana , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Gopu ji, > > Disease conditions will prevail and surface when basic proneness to diseases > is established in the natal chart. A weak and afflicted lagna/LL, moon and > sun will make a native more susceptible to diseases and he will succumb to > the pressure, even with less afflicted planets in their dasha and antars. A > strong lagna can withstand severe afflictions also. In this case, the > disease is indicated from all angles. > > *I am just giving the important points briefly.* > > - Native has a weak constitution and is prone to diseases. All 3 lagnas > are aspected by their 6th lords. > - From lagna, Jupiter is a retrograde functional malefic in the nakshtra > of LL/8L venus and thus causing severe affliction. > - Venus is also the 8L in lagna in Jupiter's nakshatra with 12L mer. The > nakshatra exchange is not conducive for health as it carries significations > of 3H/6H/8H with lagna. > - Rahu-ketu axis in kendra to two benefics and in exact degree as 6L > Jupiter. > - Jupiter becomes a greater evil by dispositing mars, who also aspects > 6H/pisces > - Sun, the arogyakarak and natural 5L is afflicted with Saturn in 12H and > aspects 6H, establishing his link with disease and hospitals. > - 5L Saturn, the YK is totally combust in 12H and Virgo is the afflicted > 12H > - In Navamsha, both leo and sun is badly afflicted by Rahu/ketu, Saturn > and mars. > - The native passes through the dasha of ketu, the disease karak who has > 2L/7L mars in 6H from aspecting ketu, moon, cancer, 6H/pisces. The disease > will start brewing in this dasha. > - With the onset of venus dasha, the dasha of LL, the disease showed up, > which has to do mainly with Jupiter and venus. > > We can go into more details, but this should suffice to indicate the > disease. > > There is still a long way to go for venus MD, and hence this native should > be cautioned to take his treatment very seriously. His disease can progress > fast to kidneys. > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 dear neelamji thanks for your conclusive comments on diabetic in a native and also thank members for their contributions on the eye problems causing planets etc. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Pandit ji and group, > > > I agree that the thread on diabetes was left hanging without any conclusive > derivation. > > To assess in simple terms, without getting into the technicalities, Jupiter > and venus jointly rule over pancreas, which is the main organ responsible > for causing diabetes. Upper part of pancreas comes under Jupiter whereas the > lower part and appendix fall under venus. For diabetes, generally both have > to be afflicted to cause the disease. > > Diabetes has two components. One is about improper metabolism of glucose and > the second part is deficiency of hormone insulin. Glucose metabolism is also > related to liver. Liver and pancreas also function closely as a team for > metabolism of glucose. Liver and the upper part of pancreas are ruled by > Jupiter and 5H.Venus controls the endocrine secretions or hormones as well > as the lower part of pancreas. This area comes under 6H. > > So in most of the cases, diabetes primarily comes under Jupiter, Venus and > 5th and/or 6th house. > > When diabetes advances, it might affect kidneys and that is where we get the > role of Libra. Then the disorder is also renal and more complex. *Only for > diabetes, we may not have libra afflicted. *Many a times, people live with > diabetes without causing any damage to the kidneys. > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 dear Neelamji, At the outset I thank u for the wonderful analysis u have presented. I am amazed with ur multi approach of analysis of the natal chart. thank u once again, regards, k.gopu--- On Sat, 10/25/08, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: sun and moon Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 7:57 PM Dear Gopu ji, Disease conditions will prevail and surface when basic proneness to diseases is established in the natal chart. A weak and afflicted lagna/LL, moon and sun will make a native more susceptible to diseases and he will succumb to the pressure, even with less afflicted planets in their dasha and antars. A strong lagna can withstand severe afflictions also. In this case, the disease is indicated from all angles. I am just giving the important points briefly. Native has a weak constitution and is prone to diseases. All 3 lagnas are aspected by their 6th lords. From lagna, Jupiter is a retrograde functional malefic in the nakshtra of LL/8L venus and thus causing severe affliction. Venus is also the 8L in lagna in Jupiter's nakshatra with 12L mer. The nakshatra exchange is not conducive for health as it carries significations of 3H/6H/8H with lagna. Rahu-ketu axis in kendra to two benefics and in exact degree as 6L Jupiter. Jupiter becomes a greater evil by dispositing mars, who also aspects 6H/pisces Sun, the arogyakarak and natural 5L is afflicted with Saturn in 12H and aspects 6H, establishing his link with disease and hospitals. 5L Saturn, the YK is totally combust in 12H and Virgo is the afflicted 12H In Navamsha, both leo and sun is badly afflicted by Rahu/ketu, Saturn and mars. The native passes through the dasha of ketu, the disease karak who has 2L/7L mars in 6H from aspecting ketu, moon, cancer, 6H/pisces. The disease will start brewing in this dasha. With the onset of venus dasha, the dasha of LL, the disease showed up, which has to do mainly with Jupiter and venus. We can go into more details, but this should suffice to indicate the disease. There is still a long way to go for venus MD, and hence this native should be cautioned to take his treatment very seriously. His disease can progress fast to kidneys. RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Dear Neelamji, It seems that you deeply hurt by mail which is well express in your reply,It was not my intention at all.I have just given you the new era to think other side of coin.I know we are not Doctor or not in the business of Medical & health but we are student of astrology where we face so many question about the various disease and cure.If we have proper knowledge than we can reach near by to right predict. No any astrologer can say he or she is perfect and having all knowledge of all branches of astrology,it is continues process to learn new every day,If some body have little knowledge,like me,rise new vision or new sight than who have great experiences and knowledge,like you,in the field of astrology,should take it in positive Sprite. For anatomy and physiology you can look in " Wikipedia " which will give you all most all information about it.I have collected for you as below,(please see carefully the function of liver and Insulin,liver is converting sugar into glycogen and reserve glycogen,when ever body have deficiency of energy or glucose,liver release it.) :- As per Wikipedia :- " The liver is a vital organ present in vertebrates and some other animals; it has a wide range of functions, a few of which are detoxification, protein synthesis, and production of biochemicals necessary for digestion. The liver is necessary for survival; a human can only last up to 24 hours without liver function.[citation needed] The liver plays a major role in metabolism and has a number of functions in the body, including glycogen storage, decomposition of red blood cells, plasma protein synthesis, and detoxification. The liver is also the largest gland in the human body. It lies below the diaphragm in the thoracic region of the abdomen. It produces bile, an alkaline compound which aids in digestion, via the emulsification of lipids. It also performs and regulates a wide variety of high-volume biochemical reactions requiring very specialized tissues. " " Insulin is the principal hormone that regulates uptake of glucose from the blood into most cells (primarily muscle and fat cells, but not central nervous system cells). Therefore deficiency of insulin or the insensitivity of its receptors plays a central role in all forms of diabetes mellitus " And you have stated in your post that :-- " Venus is responsible as the endocrine secretions are ruled by Venus. " Secretion of Insulin is improper or the receptor of Insulin does not response proper function are the main causes of Diabetes. As per " Wikipedia " :- " If the amount of insulin available is insufficient, if cells respond poorly to the effects of insulin (insulin insensitivity or resistance), or if the insulin itself is defective, then glucose will not be absorbed properly by those body cells that require it nor will it be stored appropriately in the liver and muscles. The net effect is persistent high levels of blood glucose, poor protein synthesis, and other metabolic derangements, such as acidosis " Now I hope you will take this message in right way,I am learner and want to learn for good predictor as like you,may be my approaches are out or different ,by the set rules. Thanks, M.S.Bohra , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Bohra ji, > > I was just trying to sum up the karak and houses for pancreas without > getting into medical details. Otherwise there is no end to it and we are not > medical doctors. In postmortem we are able to locate and trace the diseases > to the cellular level, but fail miserably in predictions and real time > cases. > > If we get into minute details of occurrence and symptoms, then we will see a > role of each and every planet in giving any disease. Also, there are so many > causes for a particular disease, some we know and some we dismiss as > idiopathic, diabetes being no exception. So we should stick to area under > affliction. Even then, we may not be able to tell from the chart whether it > is a pancreatic cancer or diabetes! > > It may not always be a deficiency of insulin, it could be a malfunctioning > where insulin is not recognized by the enzymes that process glucose. The > beta cells produce insulin and alpha cells produce glucagon, and these two > hormones together maintain the level of glucose in the blood. And finally, > the regulation is under the control of hypothalamus and then pituitary, the > master gland. > > I think we should stick to our organ-based inferences, and then, if > confirmed by the native, we could get into the details by analyzing the > interaction of other planets > > For diabetes I feel both Jupiter and Venus are responsible, Jupiter because > it rules a part of pancreas and the cells of pancreas (called Islets of > Langerhans) which secrete these hormones. Also liver is always intricately > linked with diabetic condition as liver produces glucose and insulin > regulates the ability of the liver to produce glucose. When pancreas is not > producing enough insulin, or insulin's signal is not recognised, liver > continues the production and excess glucose builds up in the blood stream. > This is how Jupiter becomes the main disease giver also as Jupiter rules > liver. Venus is responsible as the endocrine secretions are ruled by Venus. > Venus alone may not be able to pin point towards diabetes. > > This is what I feel. There are many variations and manifestations of the > disease. I stand corrected if I am wrong in my understanding. I am not a > medical doctor, but having been a researcher in this science, I am well > aware of the anatomy and physiology of human body. > > Regards > Neelam > > > 2008/10/25 neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 > > > Dear Group, > > > > I am reposting the message by Bohra ji which the group has missed because > > of some problems. These comments are pertinent to this thread. > > > > //Dear Neelmji, > > > > You have describe well for the causes of Diabetes Mallaitis.I would > > like to add some more points,Diabetes is causes due to less production > > of Insulin.Insulin burn the sugar which we intake in different > > forms.Mast cell of Pancreas is producing Insulin.If production of > > Insulin is improper than extra sugar running in blood which goes to > > every cell and start to damage slowly every organs of our body. > > Metabolism is process for burning fats,protein,sugar;etc.As you know > > very well Venus is represent " Fir " ,fir is essential for burning so we > > can say if Venus is effected by any malefic or occupied in 6th,8th and > > 12th house is maine responsible for the Diabetes.Jupiter repersent > > " Fat " a fatty person unable to consume or burn all intake so some way > > it will cause slow metabolism.We directly can't say the culprit is > > effected Jupiter for Diabetes. > > > > 5th house is denoted our Pancreas,its also can included as you have > > stated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > M.S.bohra// > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Dear Bohra ji, //It seems that you deeply hurt by mail which is well express in your reply,It was not my intention at all.I have just given you the new era to think other side of coin.// I do not understand what you mean and which expression in my reply makes you think that I am 'deeply hurt'. From my side it was just an on-going discussion where I was trying to wrap up the thread with some conclusive statements. That is all. I did not understand which other side of the coin you were talking about. (my limited understanding!) //For anatomy and physiology you can look in " Wikipedia " which will give you all most all information about it. I have collected for you as below, (please see carefully the function of liver and Insulin, liver is converting sugar into glycogen and reserve glycogen, when ever body have deficiency of energy or glucose, liver release it.).// I wish everyone knew how to see Wikipedia for information. I thank you for collecting information for me. I also wish, instead of pursuing a Doctorate in Human Biology and Genetics, I had hooked on to Wikipedia! Please carry on with your quest and enlightening posts which we all appreciate. We are not here to reciprocate sentiments, but to share our knowledge and learning. Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Dear Neelamji, 'Other side of coin " means, just to think about other factors, except " Jupiter and Liver " for the Diabetes indication in a natal chart. As you have wrote :- " Also liver is always intricately linked with diabetic condition as liver produces glucose and insulin regulates the ability of the liver to produce glucose. When pancreas is not producing enough insulin, or insulin's signal is not recognised, liver continues the production and excess glucose builds up in the blood stream. This is how Jupiter becomes the main disease giver also as Jupiter rules liver. " As above, you are continuously illustrating and linking liver to the disease ,where liver have no any role to cause Diabetes.It is my concern only to clarify. As per " Wikipedia " concern,I have stated for the reference which looks authentic so every body can see it for confirmation.I am not introducing it to you and all members.I have mentioned " For you " means for " your references " .Make it clear I am not teaching you the human-anatomy and pursuing for Doctorate on it,I have just try to elaborate the main culprit of Diabetes.So every one can think in different way to analyse. If you feel,you have hurt some one,you have to clarify your view.That's not means you are reciprocating sentiments. Thanks, M.S.Bohra , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Bohra ji, > > //It seems that you deeply hurt by mail which is well express in your > reply,It was not my intention at all.I have just given you the new era to > think other side of coin.// > > I do not understand what you mean and which expression in my reply makes you > think that I am 'deeply hurt'. From my side it was just an on-going > discussion where I was trying to wrap up the thread with some conclusive > statements. That is all. I did not understand which other side of the coin > you were talking about. (my limited understanding!) > > //For anatomy and physiology you can look in " Wikipedia " which will give you > all most all information about it. I have collected for you as below, > (please see carefully the function of liver and Insulin, liver is converting > sugar into glycogen and reserve glycogen, when ever body have deficiency of > energy or glucose, liver release it.).// > > I wish everyone knew how to see Wikipedia for information. I thank you for > collecting information for me. I also wish, instead of pursuing a Doctorate > in Human Biology and Genetics, I had hooked on to Wikipedia! > > Please carry on with your quest and enlightening posts which we all > appreciate. We are not here to reciprocate sentiments, but to share our > knowledge and learning. > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Dear Bohra ji,Sorry, but I still feel that without Jupiter playing a role with venus, diabetes is not possible. There are too many factors for diabetes which are under jupiter's direct control, including sugar itself. I have noticed it in enough cases to be able to say that. Rest is upto our individual reasoning and formed opinions. You may think otherwise, and you may be right. I am yet a learner only.RegardsNeelam 2008/10/27 msbohra62 <msbohra62 Dear Neelamji, 'Other side of coin " means, just to think about other factors, except " Jupiter and Liver " for the Diabetes indication in a natal chart. As you have wrote :- " Also liver is always intricately linked with diabetic condition as liver produces glucose and insulin regulates the ability of the liver to produce glucose. When pancreas is not producing enough insulin, or insulin's signal is not recognised, liver continues the production and excess glucose builds up in the blood stream. This is how Jupiter becomes the main disease giver also as Jupiter rules liver. " As above, you are continuously illustrating and linking liver to the disease ,where liver have no any role to cause Diabetes.It is my concern only to clarify. As per " Wikipedia " concern,I have stated for the reference which looks authentic so every body can see it for confirmation.I am not introducing it to you and all members.I have mentioned " For you " means for " your references " .Make it clear I am not teaching you the human-anatomy and pursuing for Doctorate on it,I have just try to elaborate the main culprit of Diabetes.So every one can think in different way to analyse. If you feel,you have hurt some one,you have to clarify your view.That's not means you are reciprocating sentiments. Thanks, M.S.Bohra , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Bohra ji, > > //It seems that you deeply hurt by mail which is well express in your > reply,It was not my intention at all.I have just given you the new era to > think other side of coin.// > > I do not understand what you mean and which expression in my reply makes you > think that I am 'deeply hurt'. From my side it was just an on-going > discussion where I was trying to wrap up the thread with some conclusive > statements. That is all. I did not understand which other side of the coin > you were talking about. (my limited understanding!) > > //For anatomy and physiology you can look in " Wikipedia " which will give you > all most all information about it. I have collected for you as below, > (please see carefully the function of liver and Insulin, liver is converting > sugar into glycogen and reserve glycogen, when ever body have deficiency of > energy or glucose, liver release it.).// > > I wish everyone knew how to see Wikipedia for information. I thank you for > collecting information for me. I also wish, instead of pursuing a Doctorate > in Human Biology and Genetics, I had hooked on to Wikipedia! > > Please carry on with your quest and enlightening posts which we all > appreciate. We are not here to reciprocate sentiments, but to share our > knowledge and learning. > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Dear Neelam ji, I thought of checking for the role played by Jupiter & Venus in a diabetic patient and found out that this particular lady was diagnosed with the disease, when her Jupiter/Jupter/Venus Vimsottari dasa was running. That was somewhere in the last quarter of 1982. Her Jupiter, LL is in 12H in Saturn's nakshastra and Venus the 6HL is debilitated and placed in Rahu-Ketu axis. If you are interested let me give her BD: 8th November 1959 @ 10:20 in Colombo, Sri Lanka. She had 6 miscarriages until the 7th child who was born in October 1991. blessings Renu , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Bohra ji, > > Sorry, but I still feel that without Jupiter playing a role with venus, > diabetes is not possible. There are too many factors for diabetes which are > under jupiter's direct control, including sugar itself. > I have noticed it in enough cases to be able to say that. Rest is upto our > individual reasoning and formed opinions. You may think otherwise, and you > may be right. I am yet a learner only. > > Regards > Neelam > > > 2008/10/27 msbohra62 <msbohra62 > > > Dear Neelamji, > > > > 'Other side of coin " means, just to think about other factors, except > > " Jupiter and Liver " for the Diabetes indication in a natal chart. > > > > As you have wrote :- > > > > " Also liver is always intricately linked with diabetic condition as > > liver produces glucose and insulin regulates the ability of the liver > > to produce glucose. When pancreas is not producing enough insulin, or > > insulin's signal is not recognised, liver continues the production and > > excess glucose builds up in the blood stream. This is how Jupiter > > becomes the main disease giver also as Jupiter rules liver. " > > > > As above, you are continuously illustrating and linking liver to the > > disease ,where liver have no any role to cause Diabetes.It is my > > concern only to clarify. > > > > As per " Wikipedia " concern,I have stated for the reference which looks > > authentic so every body can see it for confirmation.I am not > > introducing it to you and all members.I have mentioned " For you " means > > for " your references " .Make it clear I am not teaching you the > > human-anatomy and pursuing for Doctorate on it,I have just try to > > elaborate the main culprit of Diabetes.So every one can think in > > different way to analyse. > > > > If you feel,you have hurt some one,you have to clarify your > > view.That's not means you are reciprocating sentiments. > > > > Thanks, > > M.S.Bohra > > > > --- In <% 40>, > > " neelam gupta " > > <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bohra ji, > > > > > > //It seems that you deeply hurt by mail which is well express in your > > > reply,It was not my intention at all.I have just given you the new > > era to > > > think other side of coin.// > > > > > > I do not understand what you mean and which expression in my reply > > makes you > > > think that I am 'deeply hurt'. From my side it was just an on- going > > > discussion where I was trying to wrap up the thread with some conclusive > > > statements. That is all. I did not understand which other side of > > the coin > > > you were talking about. (my limited understanding!) > > > > > > //For anatomy and physiology you can look in " Wikipedia " which will > > give you > > > all most all information about it. I have collected for you as below, > > > (please see carefully the function of liver and Insulin, liver is > > converting > > > sugar into glycogen and reserve glycogen, when ever body have > > deficiency of > > > energy or glucose, liver release it.).// > > > > > > I wish everyone knew how to see Wikipedia for information. I thank > > you for > > > collecting information for me. I also wish, instead of pursuing a > > Doctorate > > > in Human Biology and Genetics, I had hooked on to Wikipedia! > > > > > > Please carry on with your quest and enlightening posts which we all > > > appreciate. We are not here to reciprocate sentiments, but to share our > > > knowledge and learning. > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Dear Neelam ji, A correction to the previous mail.. //She had 6 miscarriages until the 7th child who was born in October 1991.// It should be.....until the 1st child who was born in October. blessings Renu , " renunw " <renunw wrote: > > Dear Neelam ji, > > I thought of checking for the role played by Jupiter & Venus in a > diabetic patient and found out that this particular lady was > diagnosed with the disease, when her Jupiter/Jupter/Venus Vimsottari > dasa was running. That was somewhere in the last quarter of 1982. > > Her Jupiter, LL is in 12H in Saturn's nakshastra and Venus the 6HL > is debilitated and placed in Rahu-Ketu axis. > > If you are interested let me give her BD: > > 8th November 1959 @ 10:20 in Colombo, Sri Lanka. > > She had 6 miscarriages until the 7th child who was born in October > 1991. > > blessings > > Renu > , " neelam gupta " > <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bohra ji, > > > > Sorry, but I still feel that without Jupiter playing a role with > venus, > > diabetes is not possible. There are too many factors for diabetes > which are > > under jupiter's direct control, including sugar itself. > > I have noticed it in enough cases to be able to say that. Rest is > upto our > > individual reasoning and formed opinions. You may think otherwise, > and you > > may be right. I am yet a learner only. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > 2008/10/27 msbohra62 <msbohra62@> > > > > > Dear Neelamji, > > > > > > 'Other side of coin " means, just to think about other factors, > except > > > " Jupiter and Liver " for the Diabetes indication in a natal chart. > > > > > > As you have wrote :- > > > > > > " Also liver is always intricately linked with diabetic > condition as > > > liver produces glucose and insulin regulates the ability of the > liver > > > to produce glucose. When pancreas is not producing enough > insulin, or > > > insulin's signal is not recognised, liver continues the > production and > > > excess glucose builds up in the blood stream. This is how Jupiter > > > becomes the main disease giver also as Jupiter rules liver. " > > > > > > As above, you are continuously illustrating and linking liver to > the > > > disease ,where liver have no any role to cause Diabetes.It is my > > > concern only to clarify. > > > > > > As per " Wikipedia " concern,I have stated for the reference which > looks > > > authentic so every body can see it for confirmation.I am not > > > introducing it to you and all members.I have mentioned " For you " > means > > > for " your references " .Make it clear I am not teaching you the > > > human-anatomy and pursuing for Doctorate on it,I have just try to > > > elaborate the main culprit of Diabetes.So every one can think in > > > different way to analyse. > > > > > > If you feel,you have hurt some one,you have to clarify your > > > view.That's not means you are reciprocating sentiments. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > --- In > <% > 40>, > > > " neelam gupta " > > > <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bohra ji, > > > > > > > > //It seems that you deeply hurt by mail which is well express > in your > > > > reply,It was not my intention at all.I have just given you the > new > > > era to > > > > think other side of coin.// > > > > > > > > I do not understand what you mean and which expression in my > reply > > > makes you > > > > think that I am 'deeply hurt'. From my side it was just an on- > going > > > > discussion where I was trying to wrap up the thread with some > conclusive > > > > statements. That is all. I did not understand which other side > of > > > the coin > > > > you were talking about. (my limited understanding!) > > > > > > > > //For anatomy and physiology you can look in " Wikipedia " which > will > > > give you > > > > all most all information about it. I have collected for you as > below, > > > > (please see carefully the function of liver and Insulin, liver > is > > > converting > > > > sugar into glycogen and reserve glycogen, when ever body have > > > deficiency of > > > > energy or glucose, liver release it.).// > > > > > > > > I wish everyone knew how to see Wikipedia for information. I > thank > > > you for > > > > collecting information for me. I also wish, instead of > pursuing a > > > Doctorate > > > > in Human Biology and Genetics, I had hooked on to Wikipedia! > > > > > > > > Please carry on with your quest and enlightening posts which > we all > > > > appreciate. We are not here to reciprocate sentiments, but to > share our > > > > knowledge and learning. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Dear Bhohara and Neelam ji As per krishnamoorthy pathathi the sixth sublord should be venus and it also singnificates the sixth house that also deposited in venus houses in the Natal chart. , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Bohra ji, > > Sorry, but I still feel that without Jupiter playing a role with venus, > diabetes is not possible. There are too many factors for diabetes which are > under jupiter's direct control, including sugar itself. > I have noticed it in enough cases to be able to say that. Rest is upto our > individual reasoning and formed opinions. You may think otherwise, and you > may be right. I am yet a learner only. > > Regards > Neelam > > > 2008/10/27 msbohra62 <msbohra62 > > > Dear Neelamji, > > > > 'Other side of coin " means, just to think about other factors, except > > " Jupiter and Liver " for the Diabetes indication in a natal chart. > > > > As you have wrote :- > > > > " Also liver is always intricately linked with diabetic condition as > > liver produces glucose and insulin regulates the ability of the liver > > to produce glucose. When pancreas is not producing enough insulin, or > > insulin's signal is not recognised, liver continues the production and > > excess glucose builds up in the blood stream. This is how Jupiter > > becomes the main disease giver also as Jupiter rules liver. " > > > > As above, you are continuously illustrating and linking liver to the > > disease ,where liver have no any role to cause Diabetes.It is my > > concern only to clarify. > > > > As per " Wikipedia " concern,I have stated for the reference which looks > > authentic so every body can see it for confirmation.I am not > > introducing it to you and all members.I have mentioned " For you " means > > for " your references " .Make it clear I am not teaching you the > > human-anatomy and pursuing for Doctorate on it,I have just try to > > elaborate the main culprit of Diabetes.So every one can think in > > different way to analyse. > > > > If you feel,you have hurt some one,you have to clarify your > > view.That's not means you are reciprocating sentiments. > > > > Thanks, > > M.S.Bohra > > > > --- In <% 40>, > > " neelam gupta " > > <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bohra ji, > > > > > > //It seems that you deeply hurt by mail which is well express in your > > > reply,It was not my intention at all.I have just given you the new > > era to > > > think other side of coin.// > > > > > > I do not understand what you mean and which expression in my reply > > makes you > > > think that I am 'deeply hurt'. From my side it was just an on- going > > > discussion where I was trying to wrap up the thread with some conclusive > > > statements. That is all. I did not understand which other side of > > the coin > > > you were talking about. (my limited understanding!) > > > > > > //For anatomy and physiology you can look in " Wikipedia " which will > > give you > > > all most all information about it. I have collected for you as below, > > > (please see carefully the function of liver and Insulin, liver is > > converting > > > sugar into glycogen and reserve glycogen, when ever body have > > deficiency of > > > energy or glucose, liver release it.).// > > > > > > I wish everyone knew how to see Wikipedia for information. I thank > > you for > > > collecting information for me. I also wish, instead of pursuing a > > Doctorate > > > in Human Biology and Genetics, I had hooked on to Wikipedia! > > > > > > Please carry on with your quest and enlightening posts which we all > > > appreciate. We are not here to reciprocate sentiments, but to share our > > > knowledge and learning. > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Dear Mohankumar, I can give you the precise KP combinations for Diabetes, but it would make no sense here, because this is not a KP forum basically, so talking about sublords and such terms is not going to cut cake, and we must avoid this if not necessary, or unless we have a point to make . You will notice that in whichever forums I do my postings , I always merge within the flavour of that forum, and always try to remain within the mainstream of the system prognosticated therein. In KP forums I try not to talk about traditional, in Traditional forums where only Parashar is preferred, i try to avoid Jamini , and here too i may make a cross refrence to Kp, but would not go in details regarding predictive parts, understanding the general trend of study, of the majority of the forum members, which is of course not KP, but traditional. Best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Mohankumar " <b_mohan_mohan wrote: > > Dear Bhohara and Neelam ji > > As per krishnamoorthy pathathi the sixth sublord should be venus and > it also singnificates the sixth house that also deposited in venus > houses in the Natal chart. > > > > > > , " neelam gupta " > neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > Dear Bohra ji, > > > > Sorry, but I still feel that without Jupiter playing a role with > venus, > > diabetes is not possible. There are too many factors for diabetes > which are > > under jupiter's direct control, including sugar itself. > > I have noticed it in enough cases to be able to say that. Rest is > upto our > > individual reasoning and formed opinions. You may think otherwise, > and you > > may be right. I am yet a learner only. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > 2008/10/27 msbohra62 msbohra62@ > > > > > Dear Neelamji, > > > > > > 'Other side of coin " means, just to think about other factors, > except > > > " Jupiter and Liver " for the Diabetes indication in a natal chart. > > > > > > As you have wrote :- > > > > > > " Also liver is always intricately linked with diabetic > condition as > > > liver produces glucose and insulin regulates the ability of the > liver > > > to produce glucose. When pancreas is not producing enough > insulin, or > > > insulin's signal is not recognised, liver continues the > production and > > > excess glucose builds up in the blood stream. This is how Jupiter > > > becomes the main disease giver also as Jupiter rules liver. " > > > > > > As above, you are continuously illustrating and linking liver to > the > > > disease ,where liver have no any role to cause Diabetes.It is my > > > concern only to clarify. > > > > > > As per " Wikipedia " concern,I have stated for the reference which > looks > > > authentic so every body can see it for confirmation.I am not > > > introducing it to you and all members.I have mentioned " For you " > means > > > for " your references " .Make it clear I am not teaching you the > > > human-anatomy and pursuing for Doctorate on it,I have just try to > > > elaborate the main culprit of Diabetes.So every one can think in > > > different way to analyse. > > > > > > If you feel,you have hurt some one,you have to clarify your > > > view.That's not means you are reciprocating sentiments. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > --- In > <% > 40>, > > > " neelam gupta " > > > <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bohra ji, > > > > > > > > //It seems that you deeply hurt by mail which is well express > in your > > > > reply,It was not my intention at all.I have just given you the > new > > > era to > > > > think other side of coin.// > > > > > > > > I do not understand what you mean and which expression in my > reply > > > makes you > > > > think that I am 'deeply hurt'. From my side it was just an on- > going > > > > discussion where I was trying to wrap up the thread with some > conclusive > > > > statements. That is all. I did not understand which other side > of > > > the coin > > > > you were talking about. (my limited understanding!) > > > > > > > > //For anatomy and physiology you can look in " Wikipedia " which > will > > > give you > > > > all most all information about it. I have collected for you as > below, > > > > (please see carefully the function of liver and Insulin, liver > is > > > converting > > > > sugar into glycogen and reserve glycogen, when ever body have > > > deficiency of > > > > energy or glucose, liver release it.).// > > > > > > > > I wish everyone knew how to see Wikipedia for information. I > thank > > > you for > > > > collecting information for me. I also wish, instead of > pursuing a > > > Doctorate > > > > in Human Biology and Genetics, I had hooked on to Wikipedia! > > > > > > > > Please carry on with your quest and enlightening posts which > we all > > > > appreciate. We are not here to reciprocate sentiments, but to > share our > > > > knowledge and learning. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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