Astrology is a Science

November 11, 2008

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

Dear Udupa ji,

May be your definition of science and its understanding is outdated.

//However, it is hard to digest when you say that science also is a

belief and not truth. That will depend on how you define the word

" science " . //

Even the greatest scientists tike Einstein, Hokings etc agree upon

the fact that Science is NOT truth, but only an effort to understand

reality in a better way; only an effort to reach near truth; a search

for truth. As I have mentioned in my previous mail - Science derives

and improves upon THEOREMS. But the theorems exist only in our mind. It

is our visualization of reality. No theorems are truth itself. They are

just a method to understand or picture reality. They exist only in our

mind. No theorem is truth - but only effort to reach near truth. I will

explain with an example -

Earlier scientists believed that Light is composed of particles - This

was not truth, but only a theorem. Later it was proved that this

concept is not correct.

Some other scientists believed and suggested that Light is composed of

waves - This was not truth, but only a theorem. Later it was proved that

this concept is not correct.

The scientists suggested that light is an electro magnetic radiation -

This was not truth, but only a theorem. Elector-Magnetic radiation was

in itself a concept, and the new theorem on light based upon it.

Then Einstein stated that light is composed of photons - that is a

theorem, and cannot be considered as truth. Just like Diffraction, just

like Interference, just like Photo electric effect if a new phenomenon

was discovered that forces us to rethink and modify the current theory,

then definitely it will get modified - in an effort to reach more near

to reality; in an effort to picture reality of light in a better way.

Thus science is a search for truth, taking the help of -

* Facts observed by human beings (this is a subjective experience) or

observed by machines (here the interpretation is subjective)

* Concepts created by human beings (they exists only in the mind of

human beings and does not have any physical existence)

* Theorems imagined by human beings (they are based on concepts and

has existence only in human mind)

Thus science is a belief system (recently becoming almost a religion)

with its own concepts, theorems and view point. It is NOT truth, but

instead, just like many other knowledge branches it is a search for

truth; a methodology to approach truth.

Hope this helps.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

, Guru ahudupa@

wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadhji,

> I appreciate your answer. I also agree with you that astrology is

> special branch of knowledge like medicine systems, psychology etc.

> However, it is hard to digest when you say that science also is a

belief

> and *not truth*. That will depend on how you define the word

" science " . If

> you define science " as repeated experiments under identical conditions

give

> repeatable results " , then science can not be termed as a mere belief.

But in

> today's day to day language so many things are being referred to as

science

> that one may come to a conclusion that science a also only a belief.

My view

> is that science in true meaning can not be compared with astrology.

> In fact, I think that we should not have science fixation, not

> everything needs to be science. There are many things in life which

are

> useful like art, music, which are not science.

> Some people say astrology is a " divine science " . Do you think there is

> something like that? Is it " divine " ?Is it not a fact that the Is it

logic?

> Or is it just postulates? Or is it intuition?

> Once again i thank you.

> Regards,

> Udupa

>

> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:

>

> > Dear Udupa ji,

> > //> From where did you get 1800 parts of Zodiac?//

> > The zodiac is composed of 12 Signs having 30 degree each. Each

> > degree having 60 min each.

> > Now what is the importance of 1800?

> > * A sign is made up of 30 x 60 = 1800 min.

> > * The zodiac is made up of 1800 parts having 12 min each. (But I

never

> > came across a division giving importance to parts having 12 min

each)! i.e.

> > 12 min. x 1800 = 21600 min = 360 degree.

> > I don't know what the author (Sumit Bajaj) intended to say. Any way,

I

> > have three quotes, one from Sphujidhwaja hora, one from Skanda Hora,

one

> > from Deva Kerala (Chandra Kala nadi) which states the importance of

1800

> > division of a SIGN (not zodiac), with the meaning -

> > *A SIGN of 30 degree can be divided into 1800 parts, where again

each

> > planet posited in each different 1800 parts gives different results.

*

> > Rest of the questions also belong to Sumit ji. Hope that he may

answer.

> > If you ask me, my answers would be -

> > //is that the reason why astrology is a science? //

> > No. It is wrong to consider astrology as a science. Astrology is NOT

a

> > science, but a holistic knowledge branch, that can reflect truth.

Just like

> > Ayurveda, Psychology, Homeopathy etc it is another holistic path for

> > understanding the world around us. (Please note that Scientific

approach

> > and holistic approach are two methods used by human beings with

feeble

> > caliber to understand the world around them, in the very limited way

> > possible - they are the only paths or methodologies at our disposal)

> > //To say astrology is a science is just a belief.//

> > Even Science is a belief, and NOT truth. Science itself is only an

> > attempt get near to truth. So as the holistic knowledge branch known

as

> > astrology. Both Science and Astrology are just belief systems - bulk

of

> > theorems regarding concepts and facts. Any theorem has got existence

only

> > in human mind. In this way science is also just a subjective

experience and

> > NOT objective. It is just an effort to become objective

â€¦amp;quot; an unattainable

> > possibility.

> > Love and regards,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , Guru ahudupa@

wrote:

> > >

> > > From where did you get 1800 parts of Zodiac? is that the reason

why

> > > astrology is a science? To say astrology is a science is just a

belief.

> > > Udupa

> > >

> > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > > I came accross the following blog by Sumit Bajaj (a member of

our

> > > > group), at the following URL:

> > > >

http://astrosumitbajaj.blogspot.com/2008/03/astrology-is-science.html

> > > > Love and regards,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > > ============================

> > > > *Astrology is a Science

> > > > *

> > > > Whether you believe it or not Astrology is a Science. Whatever

> > Astrologers

> > > > predict, they predict on the base of certain scientific rules.

> > Astrology is

> > > > a group of systems, traditions, and beliefs in which knowledge

of the

> > > > apparent relative positions of celestial bodies and related

details is

> > held

> > > > to be useful in understanding, interpreting, and organizing

information

> > > > about personality, human affairs, and other terrestrial matters.

A

> > zodiac

> > > > of 360 degree can be divided into 1800 parts, where again each

planet

> > > > posited in each different 1800 parts gives different results. In

every

> > 48

> > > > seconds maximum the results will vary of different native born

and at

> > > > different places.

> > > >

> > > > Not only the Science can be applied in human life but also it

can be

> > > > applied in the financial markets, nations, and other matters

whatever

> > you

> > > > can think of.

> > > >

> > > > It was myself who didnt believe, or rather I would say I didnt

have the

> > > > knowledge so I didnt believe in this Science. After visiting a

> > astrologer at

> > > > a very young age of 22 , I realised there is something in it.

This

> > > > inquisitiveness led to to start the research into this wonderful

and

> > divine

> > > > science.

> > > >

> > > > The Sun Sign or Moon sign do not solitarily create all the

> > characteristics

> > > > present in a Person. The Ascendant (The Sign rising on the

Eastern

> > horizon

> > > > at the time of Birth, from the Birth place) has a major part to

play

> > too in

> > > > the Nature Persona- of the person.

> > > >

> > > > I am based out of Kolkata and professionally I am a Chartered

> > Accountant

> > > > with ranks at all stages of the exam. I was accredited with 6th

rank

> > all

> > > > over India in my CA Finals Examination. Since passing out the

CA, I

> > have

> > > > been associated with Axis Bank Limited (erstwhile UTI Bank) and

working

> > > > there in their Capital Markets Division. With God`s grace,

Astrology

> > has

> > > > been very kindest of gift to me. I am also members of various

groups

> > (eg.

> > > > Jyotish Remedies, Ancient Astrology, etc). You may contact me

there as

> > well.

> > > >

> > > > ===================

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

--- End forwarded message ---

November 11, 2008

Dear All, I came accross the following blog by Sumit Bajaj (a member of our group), at the following URL: http://astrosumitbajaj.blogspot.com/2008/03/astrology-is-science.html Love and regards,Sreenadh============================Astrology is a Science Whether you believe it or not Astrology is a Science. Whatever Astrologers predict, they predict on the base of certain scientific rules. Astrology is a group of systems, traditions, and beliefs in which knowledge of the apparent relative positions of celestial bodies and related details is held to be useful in understanding, interpreting, and organizing information about personality, human affairs, and other terrestrial matters. A zodiac of 360 degree can be divided into 1800 parts, where again each planet posited in each different 1800 parts gives different results. In every 48 seconds maximum the results will vary of different native born and at different places.Not only the Science can be applied in human life but also it can be applied in the financial markets, nations, and other matters whatever you can think of.It was myself who didnt believe, or rather I would say I didnt have the knowledge so I didnt believe in this Science. After visiting a astrologer at a very young age of 22 , I realised there is something in it. This inquisitiveness led to to start the research into this wonderful and divine science.The Sun Sign or Moon sign do not solitarily create all the characteristics present in a Person. The Ascendant (The Sign rising on the Eastern horizon at the time of Birth, from the Birth place) has a major part to play too in the Nature Persona- of the person.I am based out of Kolkata and professionally I am a Chartered Accountant with ranks at all stages of the exam. I was accredited with 6th rank all over India in my CA Finals Examination. Since passing out the CA, I have been associated with Axis Bank Limited (erstwhile UTI Bank) and working there in their Capital Markets Division. With God`s grace, Astrology has been very kindest of gift to me. I am also members of various groups (eg. Jyotish Remedies, Ancient Astrology, etc). You may contact me there as well. ===================

November 11, 2008

1800 part of zodiac is actually explained in Deva Keralam.... thats basically Nadi Amsa...

Mr. Udupu, i perhaps assume that you are not an astrologer. It has been my basic principle than unless i have the knowledge of something i do not comment on it. Let the question of whether Astrology is a science or not be decided by luminaries of astrologers. Scientist who do not even know abc of astrology cannot be expected to comment on the question otherwise.

Thanx & Regards

On 11/11/2008, Guru <ahudupa wrote:

From where did you get 1800 parts of Zodiac? is that the reason why astrology is a science? To say astrology is a science is just a belief.Udupa

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

Dear All, I came accross the following blog by Sumit Bajaj (a member of our group), at the following URL: http://astrosumitbajaj.blogspot.com/2008/03/astrology-is-science.html

Love and regards,Sreenadh============================Astrology is a Science Whether you believe it or not Astrology is a Science. Whatever Astrologers predict, they predict on the base of certain scientific rules. Astrology is a group of systems, traditions, and beliefs in which knowledge of the apparent relative positions of celestial bodies and related details is held to be useful in understanding, interpreting, and organizing information about personality, human affairs, and other terrestrial matters. A zodiac of 360 degree can be divided into 1800 parts, where again each planet posited in each different 1800 parts gives different results. In every 48 seconds maximum the results will vary of different native born and at different places.

Not only the Science can be applied in human life but also it can be applied in the financial markets, nations, and other matters whatever you can think of.It was myself who didnt believe, or rather I would say I didnt have the knowledge so I didnt believe in this Science. After visiting a astrologer at a very young age of 22 , I realised there is something in it. This inquisitiveness led to to start the research into this wonderful and divine science.

The Sun Sign or Moon sign do not solitarily create all the characteristics present in a Person. The Ascendant (The Sign rising on the Eastern horizon at the time of Birth, from the Birth place) has a major part to play too in the Nature Persona- of the person.

I am based out of Kolkata and professionally I am a Chartered Accountant with ranks at all stages of the exam. I was accredited with 6th rank all over India in my CA Finals Examination. Since passing out the CA, I have been associated with Axis Bank Limited (erstwhile UTI Bank) and working there in their Capital Markets Division. With God`s grace, Astrology has been very kindest of gift to me. I am also members of various groups (eg. Jyotish Remedies, Ancient Astrology, etc). You may contact me there as well.

===================

-- Sumit Bajaj

Contact: +91-98300-84593astrosumitbajaj.blogspot.com Id: sumitbajaj2000

November 11, 2008

Dear Udupa ji, //> From where did you get 1800 parts of Zodiac?// The zodiac is composed of 12 Signs having 30 degree each. Each degree having 60 min each. Now what is the importance of 1800? * A sign is made up of 30 x 60 = 1800 min. * The zodiac is made up of 1800 parts having 12 min each. (But I never came across a division giving importance to parts having 12 min each)! i.e. 12 min. x 1800 = 21600 min = 360 degree. I don't know what the author (Sumit Bajaj) intended to say. Any way, I have three quotes, one from Sphujidhwaja hora, one from Skanda Hora, one from Deva Kerala (Chandra Kala nadi) which states the importance of 1800 division of a SIGN (not zodiac), with the meaning - A SIGN of 30 degree can be divided into 1800 parts, where again each planet posited in each different 1800 parts gives different results. Rest of the questions also belong to Sumit ji. Hope that he may answer. If you ask me, my answers would be -//is that the reason why astrology is a science? // No. It is wrong to consider astrology as a science. Astrology is NOT a science, but a holistic knowledge branch, that can reflect truth. Just like Ayurveda, Psychology, Homeopathy etc it is another holistic path for understanding the world around us. (Please note that Scientific approach and holistic approach are two methods used by human beings with feeble caliber to understand the world around them, in the very limited way possible - they are the only paths or methodologies at our disposal)//To say astrology is a science is just a belief.// Even Science is a belief, and NOT truth. Science itself is only an attempt get near to truth. So as the holistic knowledge branch known as astrology. Both Science and Astrology are just belief systems - bulk of theorems regarding concepts and facts. Any theorem has got existence only in human mind. In this way science is also just a subjective experience and NOT objective. It is just an effort to become objective â€" an unattainable possibility. Love and regards,Sreenadh , Guru <ahudupa wrote:>> From where did you get 1800 parts of Zodiac? is that the reason why> astrology is a science? To say astrology is a science is just a belief.> Udupa> > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> > > Dear All,> > I came accross the following blog by Sumit Bajaj (a member of our> > group), at the following URL:> > http://astrosumitbajaj.blogspot.com/2008/03/astrology-is-science.html> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > ============================> > *Astrology is a Science> > *> > Whether you believe it or not Astrology is a Science. Whatever Astrologers> > predict, they predict on the base of certain scientific rules. Astrology is> > a group of systems, traditions, and beliefs in which knowledge of the> > apparent relative positions of celestial bodies and related details is held> > to be useful in understanding, interpreting, and organizing information> > about personality, human affairs, and other terrestrial matters. A zodiac> > of 360 degree can be divided into 1800 parts, where again each planet> > posited in each different 1800 parts gives different results. In every 48> > seconds maximum the results will vary of different native born and at> > different places.> >> > Not only the Science can be applied in human life but also it can be> > applied in the financial markets, nations, and other matters whatever you> > can think of.> >> > It was myself who didnt believe, or rather I would say I didnt have the> > knowledge so I didnt believe in this Science. After visiting a astrologer at> > a very young age of 22 , I realised there is something in it. This> > inquisitiveness led to to start the research into this wonderful and divine> > science.> >> > The Sun Sign or Moon sign do not solitarily create all the characteristics> > present in a Person. The Ascendant (The Sign rising on the Eastern horizon> > at the time of Birth, from the Birth place) has a major part to play too in> > the Nature Persona- of the person.> >> > I am based out of Kolkata and professionally I am a Chartered Accountant> > with ranks at all stages of the exam. I was accredited with 6th rank all> > over India in my CA Finals Examination. Since passing out the CA, I have> > been associated with Axis Bank Limited (erstwhile UTI Bank) and working> > there in their Capital Markets Division. With God`s grace, Astrology has> > been very kindest of gift to me. I am also members of various groups (eg.> > Jyotish Remedies, Ancient Astrology, etc). You may contact me there as well.> >> > ===================> > > >>

November 11, 2008

Dear Sreenadh ji,

Thanx for answering. I think you have given a better and more refined answer than what i would have written.

by 1800 divisions i only wanted to reflect how deep is this science. Although you are correct and i also believe that its not 100% science but definitely its not even 1% Art.

Thanx & Regards

On 11/11/2008, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

Dear Udupa ji, //> From where did you get 1800 parts of Zodiac?// The zodiac is composed of 12 Signs having 30 degree each. Each degree having 60 min each.

Now what is the importance of 1800? * A sign is made up of 30 x 60 = 1800 min. * The zodiac is made up of 1800 parts having 12 min each. (But I never came across a division giving importance to parts having 12 min each)! i.e. 12 min. x 1800 = 21600 min = 360 degree.

I don't know what the author (Sumit Bajaj) intended to say. Any way, I have three quotes, one from Sphujidhwaja hora, one from Skanda Hora, one from Deva Kerala (Chandra Kala nadi) which states the importance of 1800 division of a SIGN (not zodiac), with the meaning -

A SIGN of 30 degree can be divided into 1800 parts, where again each planet posited in each different 1800 parts gives different results. Rest of the questions also belong to Sumit ji. Hope that he may answer. If you ask me, my answers would be -

//is that the reason why astrology is a science? // No. It is wrong to consider astrology as a science. Astrology is NOT a science, but a holistic knowledge branch, that can reflect truth. Just like Ayurveda, Psychology, Homeopathy etc it is another holistic path for understanding the world around us. (Please note that Scientific approach and holistic approach are two methods used by human beings with feeble caliber to understand the world around them, in the very limited way possible - they are the only paths or methodologies at our disposal)

//To say astrology is a science is just a belief.// Even Science is a belief, and NOT truth. Science itself is only an attempt get near to truth. So as the holistic knowledge branch known as astrology. Both Science and Astrology are just belief systems - bulk of theorems regarding concepts and facts. Any theorem has got existence only in human mind. In this way science is also just a subjective experience and NOT objective. It is just an effort to become objective â€ " an unattainable possibility.

Love and regards,Sreenadh , Guru <ahudupa wrote:

>> From where did you get 1800 parts of Zodiac? is that the reason why> astrology is a science? To say astrology is a science is just a belief.> Udupa>

> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> > > Dear All,> > I came accross the following blog by Sumit Bajaj (a member of our

> > group), at the following URL:> > http://astrosumitbajaj.blogspot.com/2008/03/astrology-is-science.html

> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > ============================> > *Astrology is a Science> > *> > Whether you believe it or not Astrology is a Science. Whatever Astrologers

> > predict, they predict on the base of certain scientific rules. Astrology is> > a group of systems, traditions, and beliefs in which knowledge of the> > apparent relative positions of celestial bodies and related details is held

> > to be useful in understanding, interpreting, and organizing information> > about personality, human affairs, and other terrestrial matters. A zodiac> > of 360 degree can be divided into 1800 parts, where again each planet

> > posited in each different 1800 parts gives different results. In every 48> > seconds maximum the results will vary of different native born and at> > different places.> >> > Not only the Science can be applied in human life but also it can be

> > applied in the financial markets, nations, and other matters whatever you> > can think of.> >> > It was myself who didnt believe, or rather I would say I didnt have the> > knowledge so I didnt believe in this Science. After visiting a astrologer at

> > a very young age of 22 , I realised there is something in it. This> > inquisitiveness led to to start the research into this wonderful and divine> > science.> >> > The Sun Sign or Moon sign do not solitarily create all the characteristics

> > present in a Person. The Ascendant (The Sign rising on the Eastern horizon> > at the time of Birth, from the Birth place) has a major part to play too in> > the Nature Persona- of the person.

> >> > I am based out of Kolkata and professionally I am a Chartered Accountant> > with ranks at all stages of the exam. I was accredited with 6th rank all> > over India in my CA Finals Examination. Since passing out the CA, I have

> > been associated with Axis Bank Limited (erstwhile UTI Bank) and working> > there in their Capital Markets Division. With God`s grace, Astrology has> > been very kindest of gift to me. I am also members of various groups (eg.

> > Jyotish Remedies, Ancient Astrology, etc). You may contact me there as well.> >> > ===================> > > >>

-- Sumit BajajContact: +91-98300-84593

astrosumitbajaj.blogspot.com Id: sumitbajaj2000

November 11, 2008

Dear Sreenadhji, I appreciate your answer. I also agree with you that astrology is special branch of knowledge like medicine systems, psychology etc. However, it is hard to digest when you say that science also is a belief and not truth. That will depend on how you define the word " science " . If you define science " as repeated experiments under identical conditions give repeatable results " , then science can not be termed as a mere belief. But in today's day to day language so many things are being referred to as science that one may come to a conclusion that science a also only a belief. My view is that science in true meaning can not be compared with astrology.

In fact, I think that we should not have science fixation, not everything needs to be science. There are many things in life which are useful like art, music, which are not science. Some people say astrology is a " divine science " . Do you think there is something like that? Is it " divine " ?Is it not a fact that the Is it logic? Or is it just postulates? Or is it intuition?

Once again i thank you. Regards,UdupaOn Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

Dear Udupa ji, //> From where did you get 1800 parts of Zodiac?// The zodiac is composed of 12 Signs having 30 degree each. Each degree having 60 min each.

Now what is the importance of 1800? * A sign is made up of 30 x 60 = 1800 min. * The zodiac is made up of 1800 parts having 12 min each. (But I never came across a division giving importance to parts having 12 min each)! i.e. 12 min. x 1800 = 21600 min = 360 degree.

I don't know what the author (Sumit Bajaj) intended to say. Any way, I have three quotes, one from Sphujidhwaja hora, one from Skanda Hora, one from Deva Kerala (Chandra Kala nadi) which states the importance of 1800 division of a SIGN (not zodiac), with the meaning -

A SIGN of 30 degree can be divided into 1800 parts, where again each planet posited in each different 1800 parts gives different results. Rest of the questions also belong to Sumit ji. Hope that he may answer. If you ask me, my answers would be -

//is that the reason why astrology is a science? // No. It is wrong to consider astrology as a science. Astrology is NOT a science, but a holistic knowledge branch, that can reflect truth. Just like Ayurveda, Psychology, Homeopathy etc it is another holistic path for understanding the world around us. (Please note that Scientific approach and holistic approach are two methods used by human beings with feeble caliber to understand the world around them, in the very limited way possible - they are the only paths or methodologies at our disposal)

//To say astrology is a science is just a belief.// Even Science is a belief, and NOT truth. Science itself is only an attempt get near to truth. So as the holistic knowledge branch known as astrology. Both Science and Astrology are just belief systems - bulk of theorems regarding concepts and facts. Any theorem has got existence only in human mind. In this way science is also just a subjective experience and NOT objective. It is just an effort to become objective â€ " an unattainable possibility.

Love and regards,Sreenadh , Guru <ahudupa wrote:

>> From where did you get 1800 parts of Zodiac? is that the reason why> astrology is a science? To say astrology is a science is just a belief.> Udupa>

> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> > > Dear All,> > I came accross the following blog by Sumit Bajaj (a member of our> > group), at the following URL:

> > http://astrosumitbajaj.blogspot.com/2008/03/astrology-is-science.html> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh

> > ============================> > *Astrology is a Science> > *> > Whether you believe it or not Astrology is a Science. Whatever Astrologers> > predict, they predict on the base of certain scientific rules. Astrology is

> > a group of systems, traditions, and beliefs in which knowledge of the> > apparent relative positions of celestial bodies and related details is held> > to be useful in understanding, interpreting, and organizing information

> > about personality, human affairs, and other terrestrial matters. A zodiac> > of 360 degree can be divided into 1800 parts, where again each planet> > posited in each different 1800 parts gives different results. In every 48

> > seconds maximum the results will vary of different native born and at> > different places.> >> > Not only the Science can be applied in human life but also it can be> > applied in the financial markets, nations, and other matters whatever you

> > can think of.> >> > It was myself who didnt believe, or rather I would say I didnt have the> > knowledge so I didnt believe in this Science. After visiting a astrologer at> > a very young age of 22 , I realised there is something in it. This

> > inquisitiveness led to to start the research into this wonderful and divine> > science.> >> > The Sun Sign or Moon sign do not solitarily create all the characteristics> > present in a Person. The Ascendant (The Sign rising on the Eastern horizon

> > at the time of Birth, from the Birth place) has a major part to play too in> > the Nature Persona- of the person.> >> > I am based out of Kolkata and professionally I am a Chartered Accountant

> > with ranks at all stages of the exam. I was accredited with 6th rank all> > over India in my CA Finals Examination. Since passing out the CA, I have> > been associated with Axis Bank Limited (erstwhile UTI Bank) and working

> > there in their Capital Markets Division. With God`s grace, Astrology has> > been very kindest of gift to me. I am also members of various groups (eg.> > Jyotish Remedies, Ancient Astrology, etc). You may contact me there as well.

> >> > ===================> > > >>

November 11, 2008

Dear Udupa ji, May be your definition of science and its understanding is outdated. :)//However, it is hard to digest when you say that science also is a belief and not truth. That will depend on how you define the word "science". // Even the greatest scientists tike Einstein, Hokings etc agree upon the fact that Science is NOT truth, but only an effort to understand reality in a better way; only an effort to reach near truth; a search for truth. As I have mentioned in my previous mail - Science derives and improves upon THEOREMS. But the theorems exist only in our mind. It is our visualization of reality. No theorems are truth itself. They are just a method to understand or picture reality. They exist only in our mind. No theorem is truth - but only effort to reach near truth. I will explain with an example - Earlier scientists believed that Light is composed of particles - This was not truth, but only a theorem. Later it was proved that this concept is not correct. Some other scientists believed and suggested that Light is composed of waves - This was not truth, but only a theorem. Later it was proved that this concept is not correct. The scientists suggested that light is an electro magnetic radiation - This was not truth, but only a theorem. Elector-Magnetic radiation was in itself a concept, and the new theorem on light based upon it. Then Einstein stated that light is composed of photons - that is a theorem, and cannot be considered as truth. Just like Diffraction, just like Interference, just like Photo electric effect if a new phenomenon was discovered that forces us to rethink and modify the current theory, then definitely it will get modified - in an effort to reach more near to reality; in an effort to picture reality of light in a better way. Thus science is a search for truth, taking the help of - * Facts observed by human beings (this is a subjective experience) or observed by machines (here the interpretation is subjective) * Concepts created by human beings (they exists only in the mind of human beings and does not have any physical existence) * Theorems imagined by human beings (they are based on concepts and has existence only in human mind) Thus science is a belief system (recently becoming almost a religion) with its own concepts, theorems and view point. It is NOT truth, but instead, just like many other knowledge branches it is a search for truth; a methodology to approach truth. Hope this helps.Love and regards,Sreenadh , Guru <ahudupa wrote:>> Dear Sreenadhji,> I appreciate your answer. I also agree with you that astrology is> special branch of knowledge like medicine systems, psychology etc.> However, it is hard to digest when you say that science also is a belief> and *not truth*. That will depend on how you define the word "science". If> you define science "as repeated experiments under identical conditions give> repeatable results", then science can not be termed as a mere belief. But in> today's day to day language so many things are being referred to as science> that one may come to a conclusion that science a also only a belief. My view> is that science in true meaning can not be compared with astrology.> In fact, I think that we should not have science fixation, not> everything needs to be science. There are many things in life which are> useful like art, music, which are not science.> Some people say astrology is a "divine science". Do you think there is> something like that? Is it "divine"?Is it not a fact that the Is it logic?> Or is it just postulates? Or is it intuition?> Once again i thank you.> Regards,> Udupa> > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> > > Dear Udupa ji,> > //> From where did you get 1800 parts of Zodiac?//> > The zodiac is composed of 12 Signs having 30 degree each. Each> > degree having 60 min each.> > Now what is the importance of 1800?> > * A sign is made up of 30 x 60 = 1800 min.> > * The zodiac is made up of 1800 parts having 12 min each. (But I never> > came across a division giving importance to parts having 12 min each)! i.e.> > 12 min. x 1800 = 21600 min = 360 degree.> > I don't know what the author (Sumit Bajaj) intended to say. Any way, I> > have three quotes, one from Sphujidhwaja hora, one from Skanda Hora, one> > from Deva Kerala (Chandra Kala nadi) which states the importance of 1800> > division of a SIGN (not zodiac), with the meaning -> > *A SIGN of 30 degree can be divided into 1800 parts, where again each> > planet posited in each different 1800 parts gives different results. *> > Rest of the questions also belong to Sumit ji. Hope that he may answer.> > If you ask me, my answers would be -> > //is that the reason why astrology is a science? //> > No. It is wrong to consider astrology as a science. Astrology is NOT a> > science, but a holistic knowledge branch, that can reflect truth. Just like> > Ayurveda, Psychology, Homeopathy etc it is another holistic path for> > understanding the world around us. (Please note that Scientific approach> > and holistic approach are two methods used by human beings with feeble> > caliber to understand the world around them, in the very limited way> > possible - they are the only paths or methodologies at our disposal)> > //To say astrology is a science is just a belief.//> > Even Science is a belief, and NOT truth. Science itself is only an> > attempt get near to truth. So as the holistic knowledge branch known as> > astrology. Both Science and Astrology are just belief systems - bulk of> > theorems regarding concepts and facts. Any theorem has got existence only> > in human mind. In this way science is also just a subjective experience and> > NOT objective. It is just an effort to become objective â€¦amp;quot; an unattainable> > possibility.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> >> > , Guru ahudupa@ wrote:> > >> > > From where did you get 1800 parts of Zodiac? is that the reason why> > > astrology is a science? To say astrology is a science is just a belief.> > > Udupa> > >> > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:> > >> > > > Dear All,> > > > I came accross the following blog by Sumit Bajaj (a member of our> > > > group), at the following URL:> > > > http://astrosumitbajaj.blogspot.com/2008/03/astrology-is-science.html> > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > > ============================> > > > *Astrology is a Science> > > > *> > > > Whether you believe it or not Astrology is a Science. Whatever> > Astrologers> > > > predict, they predict on the base of certain scientific rules.> > Astrology is> > > > a group of systems, traditions, and beliefs in which knowledge of the> > > > apparent relative positions of celestial bodies and related details is> > held> > > > to be useful in understanding, interpreting, and organizing information> > > > about personality, human affairs, and other terrestrial matters. A> > zodiac> > > > of 360 degree can be divided into 1800 parts, where again each planet> > > > posited in each different 1800 parts gives different results. In every> > 48> > > > seconds maximum the results will vary of different native born and at> > > > different places.> > > >> > > > Not only the Science can be applied in human life but also it can be> > > > applied in the financial markets, nations, and other matters whatever> > you> > > > can think of.> > > >> > > > It was myself who didnt believe, or rather I would say I didnt have the> > > > knowledge so I didnt believe in this Science. After visiting a> > astrologer at> > > > a very young age of 22 , I realised there is something in it. This> > > > inquisitiveness led to to start the research into this wonderful and> > divine> > > > science.> > > >> > > > The Sun Sign or Moon sign do not solitarily create all the> > characteristics> > > > present in a Person. The Ascendant (The Sign rising on the Eastern> > horizon> > > > at the time of Birth, from the Birth place) has a major part to play> > too in> > > > the Nature Persona- of the person.> > > >> > > > I am based out of Kolkata and professionally I am a Chartered> > Accountant> > > > with ranks at all stages of the exam. I was accredited with 6th rank> > all> > > > over India in my CA Finals Examination. Since passing out the CA, I> > have> > > > been associated with Axis Bank Limited (erstwhile UTI Bank) and working> > > > there in their Capital Markets Division. With God`s grace, Astrology> > has> > > > been very kindest of gift to me. I am also members of various groups> > (eg.> > > > Jyotish Remedies, Ancient Astrology, etc). You may contact me there as> > well.> > > >> > > > ===================> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >>

November 11, 2008

Dear All,Let me share some of my views on the topic as I have been playing the dual role, as a scientist and an astrologer, and switching between the two with ease.

In some

ways, there is no difference between astrology and science… both are advancing,

moving forward, creative, both are justification of thoughts, both are about

development and both are seeking answers. Both systems of seeking knowledge, about

trying to understand the world, what's in it, what's beyond it.

But I

would also say astrology is not science and science is not astrology. I wish

I could coin another acceptable term a subject like astrology.

Both seek the truth, and both lurk in the grey zone between ignorance and

truth. Both start with observation, make a hypothesis/theorem, collect statistical

evidence and information to prove it and make it replicable so that it fits our

observation. It all becomes a matter of what we observe. Both are beliefs, both

are half truths… In this sense, there is no difference and no significant

hostility between the astrology and science.

But how do we differentiate? The difference springs from our way of

thinking, the way we process information. And they become two independent systems.

One… Global and holistic, an

intuitive and simultaneous way of looking at a whole picture first, and then details. It

is like seeing a complete image and then breaking into jigsaw pieces to see

how they fit to make the puzzle. This gives endless possibilities. That is the art

in astrology, to be able to visualise and then synthesize.

Two… An analytical and sequential way of processing information by putting

together bits of information and trying to create a whole picture. It is

collecting the pieces of zigsaw puzzle and putting them together to see what

they make. This creates only limited possibilities. This is science in

astrology, you synthesize and then see what you could make.

This comes from our working of the right and left hemispheres of the brain. Both

are independent and have different approach of working, yet they are related

and interdependent for certain processes. That is why many people can switch

between them and easily go back and forth between these areas. Scientists

are creative, they must be in order to be effective at scientific inquiry, and

many have music or art or even astrology as hobby. Good artists are always

critically analyzing their work, practicing technically demanding techniques,

and must understand technical concepts such as perspective etc.

Right brain processing means: Visual, focusing on

images, Intuitive, led by feelings, process

ideas simultaneously, 'Mind

photos' used to things, remember names rather than faces, see the whole first,

then the details, organisation tends

to be lacking, likely to follow rules without questioning them, no sense of time, enjoy sensory input, enjoy

observing, trouble prioritising, so often late, listen to how something is

being said impulsive, etc.

Left Brain Processing means: Verbal, focusing on

words, symbols, Analytical, led by logic, Process ideas sequentially, step by

step, remember things by writing things down or illustrating them helps them remember words, Make

lateral connections from

information, Highly organized, work up to the whole step by step, focusing on

details, information organized, Make logical deductions from information like

making lists and planning, Like to know why you're doing something or why rules

exist (reasons), Good at keeping track of time, Spelling and mathematical

formula, Plan ahead, Likely read an instruction manual before, Listen to what

is being said, etc.

Astrology is more likely to be a right brain child and science more likely

to be a product of left brain. Hence, the difference lies in our approach to

these two fields of learning. The two approaches are different, but there is a

very thin line between the two. Many of us easily switch between the two

approaches in today's times because so called science is more of a norm. This

creates unnecessary confusion in our minds. The two types of thinking need to

be complementary. Someone who starts with being a scientist ends up taking up

photography as a career and an artist may be an engineering professional. In

fact, the two areas of endeavor are compatible and overlap in the use of mental

skills.A mix and match technique could help a

learner progress faster in any of the fields and would ultimately lead to more

complete knowledge. When we doing astrology, we need be able to visualise the whole

cosmos (Brahmand) in our mind (right brain, working from the whole), then search

the smaller spheres, choosing the stars, zodiac, elements, patterns, placing the

planets in shadows and highlights (right brain, working on various things

simultaneously), but at the same time be able to look critically at what we are

doing (left brain, being analytical).

However, the left brain or science approach can deal only with limited probabilities therefore,

it makes more sense to the uninitiated and limited mind. The right brain, for

art and astrology throws endless possibilities and fails to make any sense to a

common mind. It leaves such a mind more intrigued than convinced by it. Our ultimate objective is to harness the limitless possibilities the left brain offers.I am not getting into the esoteric and metaphysical aspects of this. But hope this would help a little in understanding how the two studies become different and why different people feel inclined to think differently.

RegardsNeelam

November 11, 2008

Hare rama krishna

dear neelam ji

wonder ful mail .i hope every one take up this tread and comment more for creating more awareness

thanks keep it up

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

, "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> *Dear All,*> > Let me share some of my views on the topic as I have been playing the dual> role, as a scientist and an astrologer, and switching between the two with> ease.> **> > *In some ways, there is no difference between astrology and science… both> are advancing, moving forward, creative, both are justification of thoughts,> both are about development and both are seeking answers. Both systems of> seeking knowledge, *about trying to understand the world, what's in it,> what's beyond it.> > *But I would also say astrology is not science and science is not astrology.> I *wish I could coin another acceptable term a subject like astrology.> > Both seek the truth, and both lurk in the grey zone between ignorance and> truth. Both start with observation, make a hypothesis/theorem, collect> statistical evidence and information to prove it and make it replicable so> that it fits our observation. It all becomes a matter of what we observe.> Both are beliefs, both are half truths… In this sense, there is no> difference and no significant hostility between the astrology and science.> > *But how do we differentiate? The difference springs from our way of> thinking, the way we process information. And they become two independent> systems.*> > One… Global and holistic, an intuitive and simultaneous way of looking at a> whole picture first, and then details. It is like seeing a complete image> and then breaking into jigsaw pieces to see how they fit to make the puzzle.> This gives endless possibilities. That is the art in astrology, to be able> to visualise and then synthesize.> > Two… An analytical and sequential way of processing information by putting> together bits of information and trying to create a whole picture. It is> collecting the pieces of zigsaw puzzle and putting them together to see what> they make. This creates only limited possibilities. This is science in> astrology, you synthesize and then see what you could make.> > This comes from our working of the right and left hemispheres of the brain.> Both are independent and have different approach of working, yet they are> related and interdependent for certain processes. That is why many people> can switch between them and easily go back and forth between these areas.> Scientists are creative, they must be in order to be effective at scientific> inquiry, and many have music or art or even astrology as hobby. Good artists> are always critically analyzing their work, practicing technically demanding> techniques, and must understand technical concepts such as perspective etc.> > Right brain processing means: Visual, focusing on images, Intuitive, led by> feelings, process ideas simultaneously, 'Mind photos' used to things,> remember names rather than faces, see the whole first, then the> details, organisation> tends to be lacking, likely to follow rules without questioning them, no> sense of time, enjoy sensory input, enjoy observing, trouble prioritising,> so often late, listen to how something is being said impulsive, etc.> > Left Brain Processing means: Verbal, focusing on words, symbols, Analytical,> led by logic, Process ideas sequentially, step by step, remember things by> writing things down or illustrating them helps them remember words, Make> lateral connections from> information, Highly organized, work up to the whole step by step, focusing> on details, information organized, Make logical deductions from information> like making lists and planning, Like to know why you're doing something or> why rules exist (reasons), Good at keeping track of time, Spelling and> mathematical formula, Plan ahead, Likely read an instruction manual before,> Listen to what is being said, etc.> > Astrology is more likely to be a right brain child and science more likely> to be a product of left brain. Hence, the difference lies in our approach to> these two fields of learning. The two approaches are different, but there is> a very thin line between the two. Many of us easily switch between the two> approaches in today's times because so called science is more of a norm.> This creates unnecessary confusion in our minds. The two types of thinking> need to be complementary. Someone who starts with being a scientist ends up> taking up photography as a career and an artist may be an engineering> professional. In fact, the two areas of endeavor are compatible and overlap> in the use of mental skills.> > A mix and match technique could help a learner progress faster in any of the> fields and would ultimately lead to more complete knowledge. When we doing> astrology, we need be able to visualise the whole cosmos (Brahmand) in our> mind (right brain, working from the whole), then search the smaller spheres,> choosing the stars, zodiac, elements, patterns, placing the planets in> shadows and highlights (right brain, working on various things> simultaneously), but at the same time be able to look critically at what we> are doing (left brain, being analytical).> > However, the left brain or science approach can deal only with limited> probabilities therefore, it makes more sense to the uninitiated and limited> mind. The right brain, for art and astrology throws endless possibilities> and fails to make any sense to a common mind. It leaves such a mind more> intrigued than convinced by it. Our ultimate objective is to harness the> limitless possibilities the left brain offers.> > I am not getting into the esoteric and metaphysical aspects of this. But> hope this would help a little in understanding how the two studies become> different and why different people feel inclined to think differently.> > Regards> Neelam>

November 11, 2008

Dear Sunil ji,Thanks. I am sure there are several members in the group who have been through both the systems of learning and application. They might have encountered and realised this divergence in approach to these two subjects.

RegardsNeelam2008/11/11 sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala

Hare rama krishna

dear neelam ji

wonder ful mail .i hope every one take up this tread and comment more for creating more awareness

thanks keep it up

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

, " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> *Dear All,*

> > Let me share some of my views on the topic as I have been playing the dual> role, as a scientist and an astrologer, and switching between the two with> ease.

> **> > *In some ways, there is no difference between astrology and science… both> are advancing, moving forward, creative, both are justification of thoughts,> both are about development and both are seeking answers. Both systems of

> seeking knowledge, *about trying to understand the world, what's in it,> what's beyond it.> > *But I would also say astrology is not science and science is not astrology.> I *wish I could coin another acceptable term a subject like astrology.

> > Both seek the truth, and both lurk in the grey zone between ignorance and> truth. Both start with observation, make a hypothesis/theorem, collect> statistical evidence and information to prove it and make it replicable so

> that it fits our observation. It all becomes a matter of what we observe.> Both are beliefs, both are half truths… In this sense, there is no> difference and no significant hostility between the astrology and science.

> > *But how do we differentiate? The difference springs from our way of> thinking, the way we process information. And they become two independent> systems.*> > One… Global and holistic, an intuitive and simultaneous way of looking at a

> whole picture first, and then details. It is like seeing a complete image> and then breaking into jigsaw pieces to see how they fit to make the puzzle.> This gives endless possibilities. That is the art in astrology, to be able

> to visualise and then synthesize.> > Two… An analytical and sequential way of processing information by putting> together bits of information and trying to create a whole picture. It is> collecting the pieces of zigsaw puzzle and putting them together to see what

> they make. This creates only limited possibilities. This is science in> astrology, you synthesize and then see what you could make.> > This comes from our working of the right and left hemispheres of the brain.

> Both are independent and have different approach of working, yet they are> related and interdependent for certain processes. That is why many people> can switch between them and easily go back and forth between these areas.

> Scientists are creative, they must be in order to be effective at scientific> inquiry, and many have music or art or even astrology as hobby. Good artists> are always critically analyzing their work, practicing technically demanding

> techniques, and must understand technical concepts such as perspective etc.> > Right brain processing means: Visual, focusing on images, Intuitive, led by> feelings, process ideas simultaneously, 'Mind photos' used to things,

> remember names rather than faces, see the whole first, then the> details, organisation> tends to be lacking, likely to follow rules without questioning them, no> sense of time, enjoy sensory input, enjoy observing, trouble prioritising,

> so often late, listen to how something is being said impulsive, etc.> > Left Brain Processing means: Verbal, focusing on words, symbols, Analytical,> led by logic, Process ideas sequentially, step by step, remember things by

> writing things down or illustrating them helps them remember words, Make> lateral connections from> information, Highly organized, work up to the whole step by step, focusing> on details, information organized, Make logical deductions from information

> like making lists and planning, Like to know why you're doing something or> why rules exist (reasons), Good at keeping track of time, Spelling and> mathematical formula, Plan ahead, Likely read an instruction manual before,

> Listen to what is being said, etc.> > Astrology is more likely to be a right brain child and science more likely> to be a product of left brain. Hence, the difference lies in our approach to

> these two fields of learning. The two approaches are different, but there is

> a very thin line between the two. Many of us easily switch between the two> approaches in today's times because so called science is more of a norm.> This creates unnecessary confusion in our minds. The two types of thinking

> need to be complementary. Someone who starts with being a scientist ends up> taking up photography as a career and an artist may be an engineering> professional. In fact, the two areas of endeavor are compatible and overlap

> in the use of mental skills.> > A mix and match technique could help a learner progress faster in any of the> fields and would ultimately lead to more complete knowledge. When we doing> astrology, we need be able to visualise the whole cosmos (Brahmand) in our

> mind (right brain, working from the whole), then search the smaller spheres,> choosing the stars, zodiac, elements, patterns, placing the planets in> shadows and highlights (right brain, working on various things

> simultaneously), but at the same time be able to look critically at what we> are doing (left brain, being analytical).> > However, the left brain or science approach can deal only with limited

> probabilities therefore, it makes more sense to the uninitiated and limited> mind. The right brain, for art and astrology throws endless possibilities> and fails to make any sense to a common mind. It leaves such a mind more

> intrigued than convinced by it. Our ultimate objective is to harness the> limitless possibilities the left brain offers.> > I am not getting into the esoteric and metaphysical aspects of this. But

> hope this would help a little in understanding how the two studies become> different and why different people feel inclined to think differently.> > Regards> Neelam>

November 11, 2008

Dear Neelamji,

//Let me share some of my views on the topic as I have been playing

the dual role, as a scientist and an astrologer, and switching between

the two with ease.//

As you are scientist and Astrologer,I would like to know your analysis

if you have did,DNA & RNA having all the code of Physical and

Psychological structure of any human,if you can read their RNA & DNA

you can predict confirmatively about their Health and Mental

abilities.What characteristics they have and what abilities they have

in their code,nobody can go beyond their code structure(DNA & RNA).

If we can change the code,we can change the characteristics of that

human.As like planetary position of any natal chart.we have observe in

many cases the family members are having the some similar position of

planets in their respective charts.

" We can search the relation of " Born " time planetary position which

can reflect the construction of DNA & RNA of that human by this way we

can confirm the Astrology is the pure Science. "

Nine planets in a chart and constituent of DNA & RNA.

I would like to know the view of other learned Astrologer of this

forum about real relation of Astrology with human and any living things.

Thanks,

M.S.Bohra

, " neelam gupta "

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> *Dear All,*

>

> Let me share some of my views on the topic as I have been playing

the dual

> role, as a scientist and an astrologer, and switching between the

two with

> ease.

> **

>

> *In some ways, there is no difference between astrology and science…

both

> are advancing, moving forward, creative, both are justification of

thoughts,

> both are about development and both are seeking answers. Both systems of

> seeking knowledge, *about trying to understand the world, what's in it,

> what's beyond it.

>

> *But I would also say astrology is not science and science is not

astrology.

> I *wish I could coin another acceptable term a subject like astrology.

>

> Both seek the truth, and both lurk in the grey zone between

ignorance and

> truth. Both start with observation, make a hypothesis/theorem, collect

> statistical evidence and information to prove it and make it

replicable so

> that it fits our observation. It all becomes a matter of what we

observe.

> Both are beliefs, both are half truths… In this sense, there is no

> difference and no significant hostility between the astrology and

science.

>

> *But how do we differentiate? The difference springs from our way of

> thinking, the way we process information. And they become two

independent

> systems.*

>

> One… Global and holistic, an intuitive and simultaneous way of

looking at a

> whole picture first, and then details. It is like seeing a complete

image

> and then breaking into jigsaw pieces to see how they fit to make the

puzzle.

> This gives endless possibilities. That is the art in astrology, to

be able

> to visualise and then synthesize.

>

> Two… An analytical and sequential way of processing information by

putting

> together bits of information and trying to create a whole picture. It is

> collecting the pieces of zigsaw puzzle and putting them together to

see what

> they make. This creates only limited possibilities. This is science in

> astrology, you synthesize and then see what you could make.

>

> This comes from our working of the right and left hemispheres of the

brain.

> Both are independent and have different approach of working, yet

they are

> related and interdependent for certain processes. That is why many

people

> can switch between them and easily go back and forth between these

areas.

> Scientists are creative, they must be in order to be effective at

scientific

> inquiry, and many have music or art or even astrology as hobby. Good

artists

> are always critically analyzing their work, practicing technically

demanding

> techniques, and must understand technical concepts such as

perspective etc.

>

> Right brain processing means: Visual, focusing on images, Intuitive,

led by

> feelings, process ideas simultaneously, 'Mind photos' used to things,

> remember names rather than faces, see the whole first, then the

> details, organisation

> tends to be lacking, likely to follow rules without questioning them, no

> sense of time, enjoy sensory input, enjoy observing, trouble

prioritising,

> so often late, listen to how something is being said impulsive, etc.

>

> Left Brain Processing means: Verbal, focusing on words, symbols,

Analytical,

> led by logic, Process ideas sequentially, step by step, remember

things by

> writing things down or illustrating them helps them remember words, Make

> lateral connections from

> information, Highly organized, work up to the whole step by step,

focusing

> on details, information organized, Make logical deductions from

information

> like making lists and planning, Like to know why you're doing

something or

> why rules exist (reasons), Good at keeping track of time, Spelling and

> mathematical formula, Plan ahead, Likely read an instruction manual

before,

> Listen to what is being said, etc.

>

> Astrology is more likely to be a right brain child and science more

likely

> to be a product of left brain. Hence, the difference lies in our

approach to

> these two fields of learning. The two approaches are different, but

there is

> a very thin line between the two. Many of us easily switch between

the two

> approaches in today's times because so called science is more of a norm.

> This creates unnecessary confusion in our minds. The two types of

thinking

> need to be complementary. Someone who starts with being a scientist

ends up

> taking up photography as a career and an artist may be an engineering

> professional. In fact, the two areas of endeavor are compatible and

overlap

> in the use of mental skills.

>

> A mix and match technique could help a learner progress faster in

any of the

> fields and would ultimately lead to more complete knowledge. When we

doing

> astrology, we need be able to visualise the whole cosmos (Brahmand)

in our

> mind (right brain, working from the whole), then search the smaller

spheres,

> choosing the stars, zodiac, elements, patterns, placing the planets in

> shadows and highlights (right brain, working on various things

> simultaneously), but at the same time be able to look critically at

what we

> are doing (left brain, being analytical).

>

> However, the left brain or science approach can deal only with limited

> probabilities therefore, it makes more sense to the uninitiated and

limited

> mind. The right brain, for art and astrology throws endless

possibilities

> and fails to make any sense to a common mind. It leaves such a mind more

> intrigued than convinced by it. Our ultimate objective is to harness the

> limitless possibilities the left brain offers.

>

> I am not getting into the esoteric and metaphysical aspects of this. But

> hope this would help a little in understanding how the two studies

become

> different and why different people feel inclined to think differently.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

November 11, 2008

Dear Bohra ji,I had some time back collated my thoughts on astrology vs genetics and shared it with the group. You can access this article in the group files.Our knowledge about the human genome and storage of lifetime information in the genome as DNA and transcribing this info through RNA is still very rudimentary, Same is the case with the astrological knowledge. With so many missing links in both, it is yet not possible to find specific relation of one with another, though we are free to presume that a profound relationship does exist.

RegardsNeelam2008/11/11 msbohra62 <msbohra62