Guest guest Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Dear Vedic Pundits in the group, This issue has been discussed earlier in this group and authentic references have been given. Perhaps there may be a pdf document having the original verses from Mahabharata. Again and again some Vedic Pundits are bringing this issue to confuse the people and to show that the Linga worship is a part of the abstract Vedic nonsense. Other than spurious pieces of wisdom borrowed from the indigenous tantric traditions, Vedas contains nothing except Aryan poetry. Even that too are authored by Naga priests who got Brahmanized like Patanjali, Panini, Pingala etc. It is a waste of time to discuss the Vedas except for recovring the Tantrik wisdom lying scattered here and there. It is awkward for the Brahmin to admit that he is worshipping the Dravidian Naga Penis. So the Pundits want some jargon to console himself that he is not holding onto the Penis of Chandala who came out of Manikarnika ghat to teach Sankara the Brahmin specialized in untouchability. All these Brahmins who does not admit the truth will fall into the deeper hells spoken of in Isavasya upanishad. I don't care a damn for the idiotic comments that may follow. chandra harii , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote: > > > Dear Shri Sunilji, > > I had written once before too, in this same forum, that In Mecca,there > is a great huge Shiv Linga, which is worshipped , by the locals and the > millions of visitors, but nobody can see whats inside, no one is allowed > to. I have been told by elders of Hastinapur that the day some one goes > and sprinkles Ganga Jal on that Shiv Linga, would mark the end of the > Muslim community all over the world. Now whether this is true or not > only God knows. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > , " sunil nair " > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > dear all learned members . > > > > > > > > Here i invite ur attention of shiva linga worship or phallus worship > in > > various cultures .Still its vague reminiscence u can see in many parts > > of world . > > > > > > > > If u see in islamic culture and architecture the symbols of linga u > can > > see in forts ,palaces or even religious places in the Minarets ,domes > or > > even windows .or opening like verandas ,all r designed similar to sort > > of lingas .(opening plas shade it mentaly and see what u see ) even > > doors . > > > > > > > > (It says in Old afrikan tribal kingdoms there will a erected phallus > > type tower will b there in village or city gates .May b used as watch > > towers but the construction will b similar to phallus .But in reality > > they were not watch towers but they blv it will bring protection to > > their country ,village or city ) > > > > > > > > is it inenforce the theory that the Holy mecca was once a famous siva > > mandir and vikramaditya has conquered arabia even . > > > > > > > > also Siva Lingas has been discovered and un earthed in many places > > allover world,Even i heard the Pope's artifacts museam there is one > > emerald linga which they got frm Vatican city itslef . > > > > > > > > any comments ?? > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > > , " Souvik Dutta " > > explore_vulcan@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh-ji, > > > " > > > Whether we would like to see something in a complex (and thought to > be > > > superior) way or in a simple way - is upto us to choose; and that > > > freedom of individual is what really matters. > > > " > > > Beautiful! > > > > > > ~Souvik > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vedaprakash ji, > > > > The popular Nirukti for the word Linga is " Leenam Gamayati iti > > > > Linga " , The one which is submerged in (the primordial ocean, > without > > > > beginning and end). Some say that Linga represent the portion that > > is > > > > visible to us within the 1/4th of the Universe that that is > visible > > to > > > > us. The remaining 3/4th will not be become visible to us neither > in > > past > > > > nor in future. Only this little portion in the vast primordial > ocean > > is > > > > visible to us! I would love to accept such an esoteric > > interpretation. > > > > At the same time, I don't feel insulted when some one states that > - > > > > the Linga signify Linga and its seat signify Yoni; because then I > > can > > > > embrace this as the ancient symbol of creation, creativity, and > the > > > > surge of the whole universe itself from the male-female force the > > > > Siva-Sakti. That is a beautiful Tantric concept. I remember, while > > > > interpreting the word " Bhaga-Van " , the enlightened soul " Osho " > > stated > > > > that - " Bhaga " means Yoni and " Van " means Linga. If a great soul > > like > > > > Osho can accept this meaning and help us to evolve, then what is > > wrong > > > > with those words and meaning. I would love to accept such an > > esoteric > > > > (sure it is esoteric!) interpretation too. > > > > Note: It is our own vision and the our own mud within that makes > us > > > > bad about some straight and simple concepts. Whether we would like > > to > > > > see something in a complex (and thought to be superior) way or in > a > > > > simple way - is upto us to choose; and that freedom of individual > is > > > > what really matters. > > > > Love and regards, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > , Vedaprakash > > Vedaprakash > > > > <vedamvedaprakash@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Saprema Namaskaram to all! > > > > > > > > > > This is my first response to you forum, as the writer has > provoked > > me. > > > > > > > > > > The Shiva worship cannot be " phallic worship " . > > > > > > > > > > The Puranas references to such things cannot be accepted, as > they > > have > > > > been manipulated. > > > > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda refuted Gustav Oppert (a Sanskrit professor > from > > > > Presidency College, Madras), when he presented a paper at Paris > > > > conference to this effect. > > > > > > > > > > Quoting from Atharva Veda, Swamiji explained the nuances of > > " Skanda / > > > > Sthampa " , an infinite fulcrum without origin or end. > > > > > > > > > > I can give more details about this. > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/12/08, panditarjun2004 panditarjun2004@ wrote: > > > > > panditarjun2004 panditarjun2004@ > > > > > why shiva is worshipped in > > phallic > > > > form > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 8:05 AM > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > many people asked the reason for worshipping the shivalinga with > > yoni > > > > > > > > > > and why devotees do not worship the image of lord shiva himself. > > > > > > > > > > here below is the narration of the same from the holy > shivapurana, > > > > > > > > > > kotirudra samhita, chapter 12: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------quot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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