Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Dear Bohra ji, ==>> What are the Marka as per Jatak Chandrika :-> 1.2nd and 7th lord.> 2.Occupied by malefic, in 2dn and 7th lord.> 3.Planets in combination with 2nd and 7th lord.> 4.8th lord.> 5.6th lord.> 6.Lord of 3rd or 8th house along with lord of 2nd or 7th house.<== It is not my duty to teach you elementary astrology! As per astrological classics 2nd and 7th alone are termed Maaraka stana. It is entirely another point that planets placed in Maaraka stana can become Maaraka planets (death causing planets). If you have any knowledge of traditional astrology or classical astrological references you will never term 6th, 8th, 3rd or 8th lord as Maaraka! Astrology is a systamatic study and terms should be used carefully. Please note this point - If some astrologer is using the term "Maaraka stana", he is referring to the houses 2nd and 7th; If some one is using the term "Kendra", he is referring to the houses 1-4-7-10; if some one is using the term "Upachaya", he is referring to the houses 1-3-6-10-11; If some one is using the term "Dustana", he is referring to the houses 6-8-10; If some one is using the term "Sustana", he is referring to the houses 11-2-3-4-5-7-9-11; If someone is using the term "Panapara", he is referring to the houses 2-5-8-11; If someone is using the term "Apoklima", he is referring to the houses 3-6-9-12. These are all STANDERED TERMINOLOGIES without any confusion associated with them. If you don't know this basic/elementary point, I don't know what to say!! You must have learned astrology just by online reading without referring to the classics and without learning it from a proper guru!! You must be a mere net astro - that is the only possibility!!! Please correct your basics and before it is too late! The whole foolishness you write below that comes from the self same misunderstanding. So I don't want to comment on the same. Then about my statement - ==>> //Poorva Bhadrapada, uttara Bhadrapada, Revati are the stars falling> in Libra.Thus Jupiter and Mercury Dasa will happen for sure for> Poorva Bhadrapada and Mercury Dasa will happen for sure for Uttara> Bhadrapada, and Revati. This is bad, since the major result indicated> by a Maaraka planet is the possibility of an early death! [i am> speaking about Lagna vimsottari]//<== you writes -==>> I could not understand your above point,can you clarify on this. (Be > careful when you are using ant ebook references,cut and past smartly) <== This is simply childish!!! E-book reference?!! I usually writes and quotes from memory, and not from e-books; since I am NOT a guidance lost net astro like you. Any way if you want an e-book reference (sorry this too is from a classic), then here it is -==>9. KENDRA ADHIPATYA DOSHASTHU BALAVAAN GURU SUKRAYOH, MARAKATVEPI CHA THAYORMAARKA-STAANA SAMSTHITHAHA. Guru (Jupiter), and Sukra (Veenus) are good-natured (Soumya) planets; the harm they do by having Lordship of kendrams – 4th, 7th , 10th houses is very strong. If those planets have lordships of kendrams and are positioned in maaraka-sthaanams (houses which cause death = 2nd house and 7th houses) they cause death to the person; the harmful result they give is very strong. http://www.jyothishi.com/JATAKA-CHANDRIKA.pdf ==> Please note that even that transilator of Jataka Chandrika is not foolish enough like you to transilate Maaraka stanas as 6th, 8th, 3rd etc and what not! Even he clearly states that, Maaraka-sthaana (houses which cause death) = 2nd house and 7th houses. Man! I again urge you to understand - "Maaraka" is a word that is part of the STANDERED well accepted terminology used in astro-classics; a word which is used only to refer to 2nd and 7th house together, that also regarding possible dasa-antara that can cause death. In the light of the ignorance you pour-in this discussion regarding Maaraka etc, and after seeing the basic mis-understandings you have even about the standered terminology, I would like to hold myself back from discussing this further with you. If I continue this, it would be a waste of my time. Thanks. Note: Sorry for the bit rude words, but it was asked for, and was deserved.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "msbohra62" <msbohra62 wrote:>> Dear sreenadhji,> > First make it clear,I didn't said which Ascendant is best.Please don't> try to do wrong interpretation my post.> > What are the Marka as per Jatak Chandrika :-> 1.2nd and 7th lord.> 2.Occupied by malefic, in 2dn and 7th lord.> 3.Planets in combination with 2nd and 7th lord.> 4.8th lord.> 5.6th lord.> 6.Lord of 3rd or 8th house along with lord of 2nd or 7th house.> > But you have taken only No.1 point,Why?You are not sure about the rest> of other points as stated above?Or any other reason or Astrological> causes behind it,please clarify it for me.> > //> Libra has only Jupiter as Maaraka> This is not true. Note the following points -> * Libra has 2 Maaraka planets viz. 2nd lord Jupiter, 7th lord> Mars//> > Mars in Libra,2nd and 7th lord,(Not Jupiter as 2nd lord,) due to 2nd> lord it will give the result of 7th house(His second Rashi or> sign).Due to Kendra lord he is not play as malefic.Definitely if he> become weak then give serious disease.But not play as marka.Only> Jupiter is Marka for Libra Ascendant.> > //Aquarius has only Mars as Maaraka> This is not true. Note the following points -> * Aquarius has 2 Maaraka planets viz. 2nd lord Jupiter, 7th> lord Sun.//> > Sun and Moon are free to make Maraktatva.As many text says even they> are free from as 8th lord result(Asthmesh Hone Ka Dos Nahi Lagta).> Sun as malefic 7th lord gives benefice result to Aqu. person.So only> one Mars is Marka for Aquarius person.> > //Pisces has 3 Maraka planets viz. Mercury,Venus and Saturn> > This is not true. Note the following points -> > * Only 2nd and 7th lord should be considered as Maaraka as> > per Jataka Chandrika. Thus Pisces has only 2 maarakas viz. Mars and> > Mercury. (From where you got the names of Venus and Saturn I wonder!)//> > Mars is 7th lord in Pisces,where is you reference for 7th lord for> Malefic?,Mars is 9th lord also a trikon lord mars is most Yogkarka for> Pisces(So,Very surprise to read your comments).Venus as lord of 3rd> and 8th house,as benefice he become malefic for two malefic houses> lord(And Jatak Chandrika's reference also).Saturn is lord of 11th and> 12th,as 12th house lord it will give 11th house result(Second sign)> and 11th house lord is most malefic or cruel. 12th lord makes the> death for first house.It is basic of Astrology,why 2nd and 7th lord> are Markes?Because they are 12th lord from 3rd and 8th house(which are> for "Aayus".)So Saturn become Maraka for Pisces.> > //Bhadrap* Poorva ada, uttara Bhadrapada, Revati are the stars falling> in Libra//> > Poorvabhadra pad (Only 4th charan),Uttara Bhadrapad and Revati are> star falling in Pisces not in Libra.> > //Bhadrap* Poorva ada, uttara Bhadrapada, Revati are the stars falling> in Libra.Thus Jupiter and Mercury Dasa will happen for sure for> Poorva Bhadrapada and Mercury Dasa will happen for sure for Uttara> Bhadrapada, and Revati. This is bad, since the major result indicated> by a Maaraka planet is the possibility of an early death! [i am> speaking about Lagna vimsottari]//> > I could not understand your above point,can you clarify on this.(Be> careful when you are using ant ebook references,cut and past smartly)> > If you are putting the question about the knowledge of B.V.Raman than> most of these days student of Astrology will be failed because most of> them learned Astrology by reading B.V.Raman's Books.Definiatly> classics are most important but this sage person have did mile stone> to explor the classics in simple way.Many Astrologer using his> reference as Geeta.I can't understand your logic?> > // Actually such mistakes is the basic> > reason for this group NOT quotting any old scholers such as Raman,> > Santanam etc (or even Rao or Rath etc) who might have committed numerous> > mistakes//> > We have to revive our basics,than comment on these learned persons.> > I hope,I have clear my points.> > Thanks to take pain with some references.> > > M.S.Bohra> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Dear Sreenadhji, Please Keep your energy within you to teach Astrology don't wast on me.I did not want any certificate from you,just check your knowledge first about Astrology :- ////Poorva Bhadrapada, uttara Bhadrapada, Revati are the stars falling > in Libra.Thus Jupiter and Mercury Dasa will happen for sure for > Poorva Bhadrapada and Mercury Dasa will happen for sure for Uttara > Bhadrapada, and Revati. This is bad, since the major result indicated > by a Maaraka planet is the possibility of an early death! [i am > speaking about Lagna vimsottari]// In which classics books do you have read, these above Stars falling in Libra?It is self explanatory about your knowledge of Astrology!Where you have learned Astrology?,by which Guru? If you don't have proper reply don't use Foolish!,Childish! word for other without knowing him properly.Are you Sanjay of Mahabharat or Trikal Gyani so know all about me?Where I have learned Astrology? Just keep yourself within Astro-Discussion,if you know,don't assume other abilities. I feel regret to write all these but it needed. M.S.Bohra , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Bohra ji, > ==> > > What are the Marka as per Jatak Chandrika :- > > 1.2nd and 7th lord. > > 2.Occupied by malefic, in 2dn and 7th lord. > > 3.Planets in combination with 2nd and 7th lord. > > 4.8th lord. > > 5.6th lord. > > 6.Lord of 3rd or 8th house along with lord of 2nd or 7th house. > <== > It is not my duty to teach you elementary astrology! As per > astrological classics 2nd and 7th alone are termed Maaraka stana. It is > entirely another point that planets placed in Maaraka stana can become > Maaraka planets (death causing planets). If you have any knowledge of > traditional astrology or classical astrological references you will > never term 6th, 8th, 3rd or 8th lord as Maaraka! Astrology is a > systamatic study and terms should be used carefully. Please note this > point - If some astrologer is using the term " Maaraka stana " , he is > referring to the houses 2nd and 7th; If some one is using the term > " Kendra " , he is referring to the houses 1-4-7-10; if some one is using > the term " Upachaya " , he is referring to the houses 1-3-6-10-11; If some > one is using the term " Dustana " , he is referring to the houses 6-8-10; > If some one is using the term " Sustana " , he is referring to the houses > 11-2-3-4-5-7-9-11; If someone is using the term " Panapara " , he is > referring to the houses 2-5-8-11; If someone is using the term > " Apoklima " , he is referring to the houses 3-6-9-12. These are all > STANDERED TERMINOLOGIES without any confusion associated with them. If > you don't know this basic/elementary point, I don't know what to say!! > You must have learned astrology just by online reading without referring > to the classics and without learning it from a proper guru!! You must be > a mere net astro - that is the only possibility!!! Please correct your > basics and before it is too late! > The whole foolishness you write below that comes from the self same > misunderstanding. So I don't want to comment on the same. > Then about my statement - > ==> > > //Poorva Bhadrapada, uttara Bhadrapada, Revati are the stars falling > > in Libra.Thus Jupiter and Mercury Dasa will happen for sure for > > Poorva Bhadrapada and Mercury Dasa will happen for sure for Uttara > > Bhadrapada, and Revati. This is bad, since the major result indicated > > by a Maaraka planet is the possibility of an early death! [i am > > speaking about Lagna vimsottari]// > <== > you writes - > ==> > > I could not understand your above point,can you clarify on this. (Be > > careful when you are using ant ebook references,cut and past smartly) > <== > This is simply childish!!! E-book reference?!! I usually writes and > quotes from memory, and not from e-books; since I am NOT a guidance lost > net astro like you. Any way if you want an e-book reference (sorry > this too is from a classic), then here it is - > ==> > 9. KENDRA ADHIPATYA DOSHASTHU BALAVAAN GURU SUKRAYOH, > MARAKATVEPI CHA THAYORMAARKA-STAANA SAMSTHITHAHA. > Guru (Jupiter), and Sukra (Veenus) are good-natured (Soumya) planets; > the harm they do by having Lordship of kendrams – 4th, 7th , 10th > houses is very strong. If those planets have lordships of kendrams and > are positioned in maaraka-sthaanams (houses which cause death = 2nd > house and 7th houses) they cause death to the person; the harmful > result they give is very strong. > http://www.jyothishi.com/JATAKA-CHANDRIKA.pdf > <http://www.jyothishi.com/JATAKA-CHANDRIKA.pdf> > ==> > Please note that even that transilator of Jataka Chandrika is not > foolish enough like you to transilate Maaraka stanas as 6th, 8th, 3rd > etc and what not! Even he clearly states that, Maaraka-sthaana (houses > which cause death) = 2nd house and 7th houses. Man! I again urge you to > understand - " Maaraka " is a word that is part of the STANDERED well > accepted terminology used in astro-classics; a word which is used only > to refer to 2nd and 7th house together, that also regarding possible > dasa-antara that can cause death. > In the light of the ignorance you pour-in this discussion regarding > Maaraka etc, and after seeing the basic mis-understandings you have even > about the standered terminology, I would like to hold myself back from > discussing this further with you. If I continue this, it would be a > waste of my time. Thanks. > Note: Sorry for the bit rude words, but it was asked for, and was > deserved. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " msbohra62 " > <msbohra62@> wrote: > > > > Dear sreenadhji, > > > > First make it clear,I didn't said which Ascendant is best.Please don't > > try to do wrong interpretation my post. > > > > What are the Marka as per Jatak Chandrika :- > > 1.2nd and 7th lord. > > 2.Occupied by malefic, in 2dn and 7th lord. > > 3.Planets in combination with 2nd and 7th lord. > > 4.8th lord. > > 5.6th lord. > > 6.Lord of 3rd or 8th house along with lord of 2nd or 7th house. > > > > But you have taken only No.1 point,Why?You are not sure about the rest > > of other points as stated above?Or any other reason or Astrological > > causes behind it,please clarify it for me. > > > > // > > Libra has only Jupiter as Maaraka > > This is not true. Note the following points - > > * Libra has 2 Maaraka planets viz. 2nd lord Jupiter, 7th lord > > Mars// > > > > Mars in Libra,2nd and 7th lord,(Not Jupiter as 2nd lord,) due to 2nd > > lord it will give the result of 7th house(His second Rashi or > > sign).Due to Kendra lord he is not play as malefic.Definitely if he > > become weak then give serious disease.But not play as marka.Only > > Jupiter is Marka for Libra Ascendant. > > > > //Aquarius has only Mars as Maaraka > > This is not true. Note the following points - > > * Aquarius has 2 Maaraka planets viz. 2nd lord Jupiter, 7th > > lord Sun.// > > > > Sun and Moon are free to make Maraktatva.As many text says even they > > are free from as 8th lord result(Asthmesh Hone Ka Dos Nahi Lagta). > > Sun as malefic 7th lord gives benefice result to Aqu. person.So only > > one Mars is Marka for Aquarius person. > > > > //Pisces has 3 Maraka planets viz. Mercury,Venus and Saturn > > > This is not true. Note the following points - > > > * Only 2nd and 7th lord should be considered as Maaraka > as > > > per Jataka Chandrika. Thus Pisces has only 2 maarakas viz. Mars and > > > Mercury. (From where you got the names of Venus and Saturn I > wonder!)// > > > > Mars is 7th lord in Pisces,where is you reference for 7th lord for > > Malefic?,Mars is 9th lord also a trikon lord mars is most Yogkarka for > > Pisces(So,Very surprise to read your comments).Venus as lord of 3rd > > and 8th house,as benefice he become malefic for two malefic houses > > lord(And Jatak Chandrika's reference also).Saturn is lord of 11th and > > 12th,as 12th house lord it will give 11th house result(Second sign) > > and 11th house lord is most malefic or cruel. 12th lord makes the > > death for first house.It is basic of Astrology,why 2nd and 7th lord > > are Markes?Because they are 12th lord from 3rd and 8th house(which are > > for " Aayus " .)So Saturn become Maraka for Pisces. > > > > //Bhadrap* Poorva ada, uttara Bhadrapada, Revati are the stars falling > > in Libra// > > > > Poorvabhadra pad (Only 4th charan),Uttara Bhadrapad and Revati are > > star falling in Pisces not in Libra. > > > > //Bhadrap* Poorva ada, uttara Bhadrapada, Revati are the stars falling > > in Libra.Thus Jupiter and Mercury Dasa will happen for sure for > > Poorva Bhadrapada and Mercury Dasa will happen for sure for Uttara > > Bhadrapada, and Revati. This is bad, since the major result indicated > > by a Maaraka planet is the possibility of an early death! [i am > > speaking about Lagna vimsottari]// > > > > I could not understand your above point,can you clarify on this.(Be > > careful when you are using ant ebook references,cut and past smartly) > > > > If you are putting the question about the knowledge of B.V.Raman than > > most of these days student of Astrology will be failed because most of > > them learned Astrology by reading B.V.Raman's Books.Definiatly > > classics are most important but this sage person have did mile stone > > to explor the classics in simple way.Many Astrologer using his > > reference as Geeta.I can't understand your logic? > > > > // Actually such mistakes is the basic > > > reason for this group NOT quotting any old scholers such as Raman, > > > Santanam etc (or even Rao or Rath etc) who might have committed > numerous > > > mistakes// > > > > We have to revive our basics,than comment on these learned persons. > > > > I hope,I have clear my points. > > > > Thanks to take pain with some references. > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Dear Bohra ji, Please cool down. We should not forget the bottom line that we are here, together, sharing the nuances of astrology, because we believe that all are well-read and learned members. In such discussions, it is never THE PERSON who is under attack, or being bashed (as Chiranjivi has said), but it is only an opposing view which may or may not be right. It is not a personal battle that we fight here. Only a battle of opinions which might get heated at times. We are all like family members and should not take any comments personally or harbour ill feelings. This is one of the groups where democracy is supreme and gang ups if any are pro and con the subject and never pro and con persons. You query initially was not taken up as the question was not very clear and probably we were looking at one another to take it up (well literally). These are certain undercurrents one realizes only when one works in the group with an open mind. Sometimes we also jokingly poke the other person, all part of fun and learning. Later on, every one was trying to point out towards the basic problem with the question, in their own ways, which you were not trying to understand. I guess you still don't. Your posts are really valuable and give a lot of food for thought and we look forward to them. I have said that earlier also. Regarding Sreenadh ji's sentence, //Poorva Bhadrapada, uttara Bhadrapada, Revati are the stars falling in Libra.// This is a typo and we can correct it ourselves. Obviously, you cannot believe that he would really not know these basics. He is very genuine person, not on an ego trip to hurt people left and right. I would request you to see matters in the right perspective so that we can enjoy this learning-sharing experience. Three things we crave most in life -- happiness, freedom, and peace of mind -- are always attained by giving them to someone else!! Hope you will take it in right spirit.RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Dear Neelamji, Its all over now by your this post. I believe in your last sentence " Three things we crave most in life -- happiness, freedom, and peace of mind -- are always attained by giving them to someone else!!'' When i see something going on wrong continuously than i express my regret.Decent words and indecent word express our thoughts and makes the friends and enemies. It may be sound irrelevant but i have the same question in my mind and it will remain till i ,myself,will not come to conclusion. Thanks, M.S.Bohra , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Bohra ji, > > Please cool down. We should not forget the bottom line that we are here, > together, sharing the nuances of astrology, because we believe that all are > well-read and learned members. In such discussions, it is never THE PERSON > who is under attack, or being bashed (as Chiranjivi has said), but it is > only an opposing view which may or may not be right. It is not a personal > battle that we fight here. Only a battle of opinions which might get heated > at times. We are all like family members and should not take any comments > personally or harbour ill feelings. > > This is one of the groups where democracy is supreme and gang ups if any are > pro and con the subject and never pro and con persons. You query initially > was not taken up as the question was not very clear and probably we were > looking at one another to take it up (well literally). These are certain > undercurrents one realizes only when one works in the group with an open > mind. Sometimes we also jokingly poke the other person, all part of fun and > learning. Later on, every one was trying to point out towards the basic > problem with the question, in their own ways, which you were not trying to > understand. I guess you still don't. > > Your posts are really valuable and give a lot of food for thought and we > look forward to them. I have said that earlier also. > > Regarding Sreenadh ji's sentence, > > //Poorva Bhadrapada, uttara Bhadrapada, Revati are the stars falling in > Libra.// > > This is a typo and we can correct it ourselves. Obviously, you cannot > believe that he would really not know these basics. He is very genuine > person, not on an ego trip to hurt people left and right. > > I would request you to see matters in the right perspective so that we can > enjoy this learning-sharing experience. > > *Three things we crave most in life -- happiness, freedom, and peace of mind > -- are always attained by giving them to someone else!!* > > Hope you will take it in right spirit. > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear Bohra ji I am yet to read full communication happened in grp ,because of time restraints .so dont think other wise but this is a request . pls let us get back to astrology than pointing fingers and thu thu me me approach ,No one is guru here ,we are all students with varying level of knowledge only . so pls let us get back to astrology .which is why we r here . thanks and regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "msbohra62" <msbohra62 wrote:>> Dear sreenadhji,> > Well said ""Even while near the breast of a cow, a mosquito will be> interested only in blood than in milk". :=)"".But who is Mosquito and> Who will decide it?You are moderator of this group but seems you are> collecting and posting only.:=,:=.> > I have clearly mentioned in my first reply regarding your mistake but> you are involve to prove yourself a teacher of Astrology and teaching> me as like a child.> > I would like to add more for your knowledge(You can use it with other> new member to show your knowledge of Astrology, how will come in> future)"In a chart 2nd and 7th are Marka for the life(Aayu) of> native,but you can use it for each Bhava's marka by taking respective> Bhava as Ascendant.If you want to look marka for Bank balance you can> take 8th and 3rd house as marka.> > I have provided you some milk taste it for a moment,you have suck> enough blood already :=.> > Thanks,> > M.S.Bohra > > > > > , "Sreenadh"> sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bohra ji,> > Oh!k! So all this childish argumentation was based on a simple> > tippo!!! Lol... I said -> > ==>> > > ////Poorva Bhadrapada, uttara Bhadrapada, Revati are the stars falling> > > > in Libra.Thus Jupiter and Mercury Dasa will happen for sure for> > > > Poorva Bhadrapada and Mercury Dasa will happen for sure for Uttara> > > > Bhadrapada, and Revati. This is bad, since the major result> > indicated> > > > by a Maaraka planet is the possibility of an early death! [i am> > > > speaking about Lagna vimsottari//> > <==> > Of course, there is a typo - It should have been - "Poorva> > Bhadrapada, uttara Bhadrapada, Revati are the stars falling in Pisces."> > But from the order in which I considered the 3 signs - Libra, Aquarius,> > and Pisces it was well evident that I was speaking about Pisces. From> > the Nakshatras quoted as well it was well evident that I was speaking> > about Pisces. But still like an immature child you started arguing based> > on a simple human misake - a typo! Ha..Ha... What else to do - if not> > laugh... :=) It is becoming really funny... > > OK. Another point. In my previous mail, I forgot to give you the> > authentic reference regarding the word 'Maaraka stana". If you have a> > copy of Jataka Chandrika alia Laghu Parasari ( I hope you might have> > one, or at least use the link I provided to you of the pdf copy of> > Jataka chandrika to read the text possibly for the first time) to find> > the reference where the author Venkatesa Pandita tells after referring> > to 8th and 3rd houses that - "Dwoyorapi vyayastanam maaraka stanam> > uchyate" [The 12th house form 8th (i.e. 7th house) and12th house from> > 3rd (i.e. 2nd house) are called "Maaraka stana"]> > Please know that Jataka Chandrika is possibly the first book that> > speaks about the concept "Maaraka stana" and this itself is the most> > authentic text that gives the clear defenition regarding the word> > "Maaraka stana" as 2nd and 7th house.> > But I wonder why I am providing all this info - there is a saying -> > "Even while near the breast of a cow, a mosquito will be interested only> > in blood than in milk". :=) If capable and understanding then use this> > info..otherwise it is not for you, but there is many others in the group> > who will get benefited by the useful info shared... Anyway thanks for> > entertaining... > > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > , "msbohra62"> > <msbohra62@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadhji,> > >> > > Please Keep your energy within you to teach Astrology don't wast on> > > me.I did not want any certificate from you,just check your knowledge> > > first about Astrology :-> > > ////Poorva Bhadrapada, uttara Bhadrapada, Revati are the stars falling> > > > in Libra.Thus Jupiter and Mercury Dasa will happen for sure for> > > > Poorva Bhadrapada and Mercury Dasa will happen for sure for Uttara> > > > Bhadrapada, and Revati. This is bad, since the major result> > indicated> > > > by a Maaraka planet is the possibility of an early death! [i am> > > > speaking about Lagna vimsottari]//> > >> > > In which classics books do you have read, these above Stars falling in> > > Libra?It is self explanatory about your knowledge of Astrology!Where> > > you have learned Astrology?,by which Guru?> > >> > > If you don't have proper reply don't use Foolish!,Childish! word for> > > other without knowing him properly.Are you Sanjay of Mahabharat or> > > Trikal Gyani so know all about me?Where I have learned Astrology?> > >> > > Just keep yourself within Astro-Discussion,if you know,don't assume> > > other abilities.> > >> > > I feel regret to write all these but it needed.> > >> > > M.S.Bohra> > >> > >> > >> > > , "Sreenadh"> > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bohra ji,> > > > ==>> > > > > What are the Marka as per Jatak Chandrika :-> > > > > 1.2nd and 7th lord.> > > > > 2.Occupied by malefic, in 2dn and 7th lord.> > > > > 3.Planets in combination with 2nd and 7th lord.> > > > > 4.8th lord.> > > > > 5.6th lord.> > > > > 6.Lord of 3rd or 8th house along with lord of 2nd or 7th house.> > > > <==> > > > It is not my duty to teach you elementary astrology! As per> > > > astrological classics 2nd and 7th alone are termed Maaraka stana. It> > is> > > > entirely another point that planets placed in Maaraka stana can> > become> > > > Maaraka planets (death causing planets). If you have any knowledge> > of> > > > traditional astrology or classical astrological references you will> > > > never term 6th, 8th, 3rd or 8th lord as Maaraka! Astrology is a> > > > systamatic study and terms should be used carefully. Please note> > this> > > > point - If some astrologer is using the term "Maaraka stana", he is> > > > referring to the houses 2nd and 7th; If some one is using the term> > > > "Kendra", he is referring to the houses 1-4-7-10; if some one is> > using> > > > the term "Upachaya", he is referring to the houses 1-3-6-10-11; If> > some> > > > one is using the term "Dustana", he is referring to the houses> > 6-8-10;> > > > If some one is using the term "Sustana", he is referring to the> > houses> > > > 11-2-3-4-5-7-9-11; If someone is using the term "Panapara", he is> > > > referring to the houses 2-5-8-11; If someone is using the term> > > > "Apoklima", he is referring to the houses 3-6-9-12. These are all> > > > STANDERED TERMINOLOGIES without any confusion associated with them.> > If> > > > you don't know this basic/elementary point, I don't know what to> > say!!> > > > You must have learned astrology just by online reading without> > referring> > > > to the classics and without learning it from a proper guru!! You> > must be> > > > a mere net astro - that is the only possibility!!! Please correct> > your> > > > basics and before it is too late!> > > > The whole foolishness you write below that comes from the self same> > > > misunderstanding. So I don't want to comment on the same.> > > > Then about my statement -> > > > ==>> > > > > //Poorva Bhadrapada, uttara Bhadrapada, Revati are the stars> > falling> > > > > in Libra.Thus Jupiter and Mercury Dasa will happen for sure for> > > > > Poorva Bhadrapada and Mercury Dasa will happen for sure for Uttara> > > > > Bhadrapada, and Revati. This is bad, since the major result> > indicated> > > > > by a Maaraka planet is the possibility of an early death! [i am> > > > > speaking about Lagna vimsottari]//> > > > <==> > > > you writes -> > > > ==>> > > > > I could not understand your above point,can you clarify on this.> > (Be> > > > > careful when you are using ant ebook references,cut and past> > smartly)> > > > <==> > > > This is simply childish!!! E-book reference?!! I usually writes and> > > > quotes from memory, and not from e-books; since I am NOT a guidance> > lost> > > > net astro like you. Any way if you want an e-book reference> > (sorry> > > > this too is from a classic), then here it is -> > > > ==>> > > > 9. KENDRA ADHIPATYA DOSHASTHU BALAVAAN GURU SUKRAYOH,> > > > MARAKATVEPI CHA THAYORMAARKA-STAANA SAMSTHITHAHA.> > > > Guru (Jupiter), and Sukra (Veenus) are good-natured (Soumya)> > planets;> > > > the harm they do by having Lordship of kendrams – 4th, 7th ,> > 10th> > > > houses is very strong. If those planets have lordships of kendrams> > and> > > > are positioned in maaraka-sthaanams (houses which cause death = 2nd> > > > house and 7th houses) they cause death to the person; the harmful> > > > result they give is very strong.> > > > http://www.jyothishi.com/JATAKA-CHANDRIKA.pdf> > > > <http://www.jyothishi.com/JATAKA-CHANDRIKA.pdf>> > > > ==>> > > > Please note that even that transilator of Jataka Chandrika is not> > > > foolish enough like you to transilate Maaraka stanas as 6th, 8th,> > 3rd> > > > etc and what not! Even he clearly states that, Maaraka-sthaana> > (houses> > > > which cause death) = 2nd house and 7th houses. Man! I again urge you> > to> > > > understand - "Maaraka" is a word that is part of the STANDERED well> > > > accepted terminology used in astro-classics; a word which is used> > only> > > > to refer to 2nd and 7th house together, that also regarding possible> > > > dasa-antara that can cause death.> > > > In the light of the ignorance you pour-in this discussion regarding> > > > Maaraka etc, and after seeing the basic mis-understandings you have> > even> > > > about the standered terminology, I would like to hold myself back> > from> > > > discussing this further with you. If I continue this, it would be a> > > > waste of my time. Thanks.> > > > Note: Sorry for the bit rude words, but it was asked for, and was> > > > deserved.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >> > > > , "msbohra62"> > > > <msbohra62@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear sreenadhji,> > > > >> > > > > First make it clear,I didn't said which Ascendant is best.Please> > don't> > > > > try to do wrong interpretation my post.> > > > >> > > > > What are the Marka as per Jatak Chandrika :-> > > > > 1.2nd and 7th lord.> > > > > 2.Occupied by malefic, in 2dn and 7th lord.> > > > > 3.Planets in combination with 2nd and 7th lord.> > > > > 4.8th lord.> > > > > 5.6th lord.> > > > > 6.Lord of 3rd or 8th house along with lord of 2nd or 7th house.> > > > >> > > > > But you have taken only No.1 point,Why?You are not sure about the> > rest> > > > > of other points as stated above?Or any other reason or> > Astrological> > > > > causes behind it,please clarify it for me.> > > > >> > > > > //> > > > > Libra has only Jupiter as Maaraka> > > > > This is not true. Note the following points -> > > > > * Libra has 2 Maaraka planets viz. 2nd lord Jupiter, 7th lord> > > > > Mars//> > > > >> > > > > Mars in Libra,2nd and 7th lord,(Not Jupiter as 2nd lord,) due to> > 2nd> > > > > lord it will give the result of 7th house(His second Rashi or> > > > > sign).Due to Kendra lord he is not play as malefic.Definitely if> > he> > > > > become weak then give serious disease.But not play as marka.Only> > > > > Jupiter is Marka for Libra Ascendant.> > > > >> > > > > //Aquarius has only Mars as Maaraka> > > > > This is not true. Note the following points -> > > > > * Aquarius has 2 Maaraka planets viz. 2nd lord Jupiter, 7th> > > > > lord Sun.//> > > > >> > > > > Sun and Moon are free to make Maraktatva.As many text says even> > they> > > > > are free from as 8th lord result(Asthmesh Hone Ka Dos Nahi Lagta).> > > > > Sun as malefic 7th lord gives benefice result to Aqu. person.So> > only> > > > > one Mars is Marka for Aquarius person.> > > > >> > > > > //Pisces has 3 Maraka planets viz. Mercury,Venus and Saturn> > > > > > This is not true. Note the following points -> > > > > > * Only 2nd and 7th lord should be considered as Maaraka> > > > as> > > > > > per Jataka Chandrika. Thus Pisces has only 2 maarakas viz. Mars> > and> > > > > > Mercury. (From where you got the names of Venus and Saturn I> > > > wonder!)//> > > > >> > > > > Mars is 7th lord in Pisces,where is you reference for 7th lord for> > > > > Malefic?,Mars is 9th lord also a trikon lord mars is most Yogkarka> > for> > > > > Pisces(So,Very surprise to read your comments).Venus as lord of> > 3rd> > > > > and 8th house,as benefice he become malefic for two malefic houses> > > > > lord(And Jatak Chandrika's reference also).Saturn is lord of 11th> > and> > > > > 12th,as 12th house lord it will give 11th house result(Second> > sign)> > > > > and 11th house lord is most malefic or cruel. 12th lord makes the> > > > > death for first house.It is basic of Astrology,why 2nd and 7th> > lord> > > > > are Markes?Because they are 12th lord from 3rd and 8th house(which> > are> > > > > for "Aayus".)So Saturn become Maraka for Pisces.> > > > >> > > > > //Bhadrap* Poorva ada, uttara Bhadrapada, Revati are the stars> > falling> > > > > in Libra//> > > > >> > > > > Poorvabhadra pad (Only 4th charan),Uttara Bhadrapad and Revati are> > > > > star falling in Pisces not in Libra.> > > > >> > > > > //Bhadrap* Poorva ada, uttara Bhadrapada, Revati are the stars> > falling> > > > > in Libra.Thus Jupiter and Mercury Dasa will happen for sure for> > > > > Poorva Bhadrapada and Mercury Dasa will happen for sure for Uttara> > > > > Bhadrapada, and Revati. This is bad, since the major result> > indicated> > > > > by a Maaraka planet is the possibility of an early death! [i am> > > > > speaking about Lagna vimsottari]//> > > > >> > > > > I could not understand your above point,can you clarify on> > this.(Be> > > > > careful when you are using ant ebook references,cut and past> > smartly)> > > > >> > > > > If you are putting the question about the knowledge of B.V.Raman> > than> > > > > most of these days student of Astrology will be failed because> > most of> > > > > them learned Astrology by reading B.V.Raman's Books.Definiatly> > > > > classics are most important but this sage person have did mile> > stone> > > > > to explor the classics in simple way.Many Astrologer using his> > > > > reference as Geeta.I can't understand your logic?> > > > >> > > > > // Actually such mistakes is the basic> > > > > > reason for this group NOT quotting any old scholers such as> > Raman,> > > > > > Santanam etc (or even Rao or Rath etc) who might have committed> > > > numerous> > > > > > mistakes//> > > > >> > > > > We have to revive our basics,than comment on these learned> > persons.> > > > >> > > > > I hope,I have clear my points.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks to take pain with some references.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > M.S.Bohra> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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